1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: fighting for the future of our republic. My call is 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: end up miserable. But if the most important thing is 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: You got to stop sending your kids to college. You 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: should get married as young as possible and have as 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: many kids as possible. 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I recommend to 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: my family, friends and viewers. 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 5: All right, hour two the Charlie Kirk Shows underway. Welcome back, 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 5: so excited to have Jeremy Carl back on the show. 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Jeremy Carl. 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 5: You have been nominated for Assistant Secretary of State for 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 5: inter International Organizations. 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: I got it. 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 5: It's a bit of a mouthful of a title, but 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 5: what an honor to be nominated. 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. It's so good to see you. 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: How you doing. 33 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: I'm doing great. 34 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 6: I had a fun time in DC last week despite 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 6: all the fireworks. 36 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: I truly did. 37 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 6: And you know, I'm just as I said, as you said, 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 6: it was an honor to be nominated and looking forward 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 6: to hopefully being able to join. 40 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, well so and Blake, I mean, feel free to 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 5: chime in here, but yeah, you had one of the 42 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 5: more eventful nomination hearings that we've seen in recent memory. 43 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 5: And boy did they come after you with just I 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 5: mean it was like hyperbole, which which you. 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: Knew was gonna have. 46 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 7: I talked to you before that hearing and you said like, 47 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to sit there and just get you know, 48 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 7: raked over it for a couple hours, and that's exactly 49 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 7: what they did. 50 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 5: They called you every name in the book. I mean this, Yeah, 51 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 5: this was just it felt like you know what it 52 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: felt like a throwback to like twenty twenty or like 53 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 5: twenty nineteen or something like that, twenty twenty one, and 54 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 5: I just was like, have like, are we really still 55 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 5: like are you still going with these days? 56 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: Are we going to? Yeah? 57 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 7: Are we gonna let them do this sort of bad 58 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 7: faith framing of everything? And also, as we talked about 59 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 7: last week, that bit where they just pretend to not 60 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 7: know what people are talking about, so they went after you, 61 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 7: of course for your book, which is a great book 62 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 7: and people should read it, and all the unprotected class. 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 7: They they're gonna rake you over the cold because you 64 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 7: say America has anti white discrimination in it. 65 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: Well, it does. They brag about it and demand more 66 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 3: of it all the time. But yeah, you know what 67 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: do you have to say? 68 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jerry, about you? Do you still stand by this idea? 69 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 4: Jeremy? Yeah? Thanks? 70 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 6: And that was actually the most the part I was 71 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 6: most proud of about the hearing is there's you know, 72 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 6: it's a high pressure environment when you go in there, 73 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 6: and even if you're somebody like me who's certainly spoken 74 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 6: in public for on many occasions, when you have a 75 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 6: bunch of very hostile senators controlling the microphone, and saying, 76 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 6: you know, have you no decency? You know, how dare 77 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 6: you have that view? It's very easy to kind of 78 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 6: recant or go back, and I didn't do that at all. 79 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 6: I stood by my beliefs, which I certainly do believe 80 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 6: very strongly, and so you know, I kept my integrity. 81 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 6: That was really the most important thing to me going 82 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 6: into the hearing, and just the sort of avalanche of 83 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 6: positive correspondence and comments that I got afterward really convinced 84 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 6: me that obviously, not just morally but practically, that was 85 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 6: the right thing to do. 86 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 7: All right, Well, we definitely we wanted to have you 87 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 7: on because Charlie fought for your nomination. He was one 88 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 7: of the people you were one of the people he 89 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 7: really wanted to get into the government. 90 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 5: Uh. 91 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 7: He was very excited about it. Really really fought for you. 92 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 7: But you're facing obviously a ton of opposition from Democrats. 93 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 7: But what's been frustrating to us to hear is there's 94 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 7: been some skepticism from one of the Republicans on the community, 95 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 7: Senator Curtis from Utah, and his ex breast reason was 96 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 7: very odd to us. He believes you were not supportive 97 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 7: enough of America's policy towards Israel, and he basically said 98 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 7: you would be bad for that role because you're going 99 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 7: to the United Nations. 100 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: Now that's shocking to us, because we. 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 7: Know Charlie was a huge supporter of Israel and are US, 102 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 7: you know, protecting them in the Middle East. So the 103 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 7: floor is yours to respond to Senator Curtis's concerns. 104 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I want to be first sympathetic to Sendor Curtis. 105 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I think if you were primarily viewing this 106 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 6: from the media APO dumps that were happening in the 107 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 6: weeks up to the the hearing, and then certainly the 108 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 6: comments the Democrats were making Baby, you would be skeptical. 109 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 6: But I certainly would point, as you note, to Charlie's 110 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 6: support of me, And Charlie was really, of course a 111 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 6: great supporter of the US's real relationship. And I also, 112 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 6: of course worked as the right hand man for a 113 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 6: decade for the late Secretary of State George Schultz, who 114 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 6: was run on a Reagan Secretary of State and was 115 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 6: also sort of second to none as a champion of 116 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 6: the US's real relationship. So I'd certainly point to things 117 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 6: like that and the fact that those two gentlemen chose 118 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 6: to be in my corner over a number of year. 119 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 6: Secretary Schultz and Charlie, of course both sadly no longer. 120 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: With us, but that sort of speaks to my views. 121 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 6: And then obviously just personally within the UN system itself, 122 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 6: I mean, there's no question it's a hotbed of anti Semitism. 123 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: The focus on. 124 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 6: Israel they have there is absolutely absurd and ridiculous. It 125 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: wastes time from actual productive things that could be accomplished. 126 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 6: And there's no question that we are their biggest ally 127 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 6: in that system where they often don't have other allies, 128 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 6: and we, just like any other close ally, we have 129 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 6: to be very supportive of them in that context. And 130 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 6: I would certainly just say that, not just because of 131 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 6: some under Curtis, but I would have said it if 132 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 6: I could have gotten more than two words edgewise in 133 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 6: the hearing itself. 134 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 5: Well, and by the way you, I mean much has 135 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: been made you grew up Jewish apparently, But it's also 136 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 5: it doesn't mean that you don't have critiques of the 137 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 5: status quo relationship or the way that money flows or 138 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 5: any of that stuff. 139 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: All of that stuff's on the table. 140 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 5: But to say you know, you are broadly supportive of 141 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: that ally and of that relationship, their right to exist, 142 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 5: they're right to defend themselves. So I don't know what 143 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 5: the even what the to do was about. To be 144 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 5: perfectly honest, it's like, yeah, you can have critiques without 145 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: basically saying, hey, we need to blow up this whole 146 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 5: relationship or something. 147 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 6: Oh, that's right, and I mean there's I mean, I 148 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 6: had a huge amount of support very publicly on the 149 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 6: eve of the hearing and afterwards, from prominent members of 150 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 6: the pro Israel community. All of our UN ambassadors were supportive. 151 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 6: The global envoy we have for addressing anti Semitism issues 152 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 6: was supportive. 153 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: So that's there. 154 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 6: I have at times said some things that were, you know, 155 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 6: critical of some sub aspect of it, but none of 156 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 6: that really impinges on what we're doing in the UN. 157 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: There's no question that. 158 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 6: For the actual job that I would be put in 159 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 6: if I'm confirmed by the Senate, that I would be 160 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 6: four square for every element of the US Israel alliance. 161 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 6: This is not a tough question. It's not a close call. 162 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 6: It's really obvious that, frankly, the behavior toward Israel in 163 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 6: the UN system is egregious and we you know, should 164 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 6: be fully supportive of them in that context. 165 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been so galling to me to see this 166 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 7: happen because we have to have all these Democrats on 167 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 7: stage posturing about this when they're the party that's allied 168 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 7: with ma'am don. They're the party that has people routinely 169 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 7: demanding boycott's, who are routinely saying like there's one big 170 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 7: villain in the Middle East and the genocide w and 171 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 7: they're endlessly using this as part of their wider front. 172 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 7: As you're well aware that they. 173 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: Attack Israel basically because they see it as Western, because 174 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: they see it as European, because. 175 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 7: They see it as you know, they code it as white, 176 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 7: as we say, and as we see this administration is 177 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 7: standing up for those things. That's why Secretary State Mark Rubio, 178 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 7: we were just touting his speech in Munich where he says, 179 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 7: we are going to confidently stand for Western civilization and 180 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 7: we have to be doing that at the UN. And 181 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 7: you're one of Charlie and President Trump's pick men to 182 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 7: do that at the UN. 183 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so, so, Jeremy, your view on it right 184 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: now is you have a sympathetic view towards Senator Curtis. 185 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 5: Are we got thirty seconds in this last segment? Are 186 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 5: we hopeful? Are you meeting with him? 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He obviously it was 227 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 5: a version of the Salem Witch Trials at the Senate. 228 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 5: First Democratic counterparts there, so you didn't get to talk 229 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 5: about the substance of the actual well job and what 230 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 5: makes you competent? 231 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 3: And which is I think the whole point They wanted to. 232 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: Distract from the fact that you are one of the 233 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 5: most articulate, competent I would say, defenders of American values, 234 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 5: of President Trump's platform as foreign policy. They didn't want 235 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 5: you to talk about any of that. So you know, 236 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 5: the floor is now yours, Jeremy. Why do you want 237 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: this job and what do you hope to accomplish? 238 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks so much. 239 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 6: And I was actually at the beginning of this process, 240 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 6: which was further back than any of you would probably believe, 241 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 6: even if I told you. I was given a choice 242 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 6: of a few different portfolios that I might have had, 243 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 6: and really, after thinking about it a little bit, chose 244 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 6: this one as a place where I could really make 245 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 6: an impact because, look, the United Nations and certainly many 246 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 6: other international organizations have been a long time source of 247 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 6: frustration to those of us who are America first, to 248 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 6: those of us who believe in American sovereignty. I mean, 249 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 6: there's no question that, as President Trump has said, they 250 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 6: have great potential, but they have not lived up to 251 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 6: that potential. But I think there's a lot of things 252 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 6: that we could be doing need to be doing in 253 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 6: these bodies. There's sort of a horseshoe effect I think 254 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 6: a little bit here where the people who are sort 255 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 6: of most opposed to the UN in the United States 256 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 6: and the people who are actually inside the UN kind 257 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 6: of want the same thing, which is to have a 258 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 6: bunch of shop talk and not really a lot of 259 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 6: useful concrete action on the things that the UN should 260 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 6: be doing, which really primarily should focus around keeping the 261 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 6: peace and certainly not being a global government. What I 262 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 6: want to do is have the UN do a limited 263 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 6: set of things and actually do them effectively and advance 264 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 6: US interests in them. So that means we want to 265 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 6: be countering China and Chinese influence everywhere we can. We 266 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 6: want to be in the standards bodies and making sure 267 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 6: we elect Americans in those standards bodies. There's fifty six 268 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 6: different I believe standards bodies within the UN system, ranging 269 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 6: for the International Atomic Energy Agency to the International Telecommunications Union. 270 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 6: People necessarily think about them in the US that much, 271 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 6: but they actually end up often having enormous influence on 272 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 6: what we do. So you start with things like that, 273 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 6: You start with the US Israel relationship, which I talked 274 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 6: about there, and we need to be very good protectors 275 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 6: of Israel and other allies, and there's really just you know, 276 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 6: it's a huge organization. There's so many different moving parts. 277 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 6: But I think aggressively moving on issues of US sovereignty, 278 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 6: trying to stop the migration abuse that we've seen that 279 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 6: has led to open borders throughout the world, which is 280 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 6: often enabled by the UN system. Those would be kind 281 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 6: of the priorities that I would have that I have 282 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 6: if I'm confirmed for the job, which of course I 283 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 6: didn't get to talk about during the hearings. 284 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 5: You know, there was that powerful moment in Secretary rubio 285 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 5: speech where he says, the UN has the ability to 286 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 5: do a lot of good. It could be a tool 287 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 5: for good, and then he goes through the list of 288 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 5: instances where it actually was useless. But it took American 289 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 5: it took B two bombers in Iran, it took special 290 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 5: forces in Venezuela. You know, it took those European partners 291 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 5: coming together along with the US to even get peace negotiations, 292 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 5: a discussion to even begin between Ukraine and Russia. What 293 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 5: did you make of Secretary Rubio's speech and what are 294 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 5: you pulling out What are the through lines that you're 295 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 5: pulling out from that moment? 296 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, I'm liked you 297 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 6: mentioned it was absolutely terrific speech. 298 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 4: I'm not just saying not because he may be. 299 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 6: My boss at some point in your future, but I 300 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 6: thought it was outstanding. I thought it did a great 301 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 6: job of having a really hopeful vision and also really 302 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 6: stressing the importance of American the sovereignty and American power 303 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 6: at the same time. I thought the critique of the 304 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 6: UN was right on, and it really gets to what 305 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 6: I was just saying earlier, which is, well, okay, is 306 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 6: the UN I'm going to just sit there and be 307 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 6: a place the talk shop and doesn't actually get anything done. 308 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 6: If I were in the UN, that wouldn't really strike 309 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 6: me as something that would be enhancing my power and credibility. 310 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 6: And so what I want to do is to have 311 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 6: hopefully be able to effectuate, under US leadership some internal 312 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 6: reforms so that we can act in places like Venezuela 313 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 6: and we're not just sort of hamstrung by these infinitely 314 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 6: kind of back and forth processes that are all just 315 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 6: about virtue signaling. 316 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's really great to emphasize this, because it's 317 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 7: already bad enough. People might be asking, why are we 318 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 7: having this hearing about you. It's because you were nominated 319 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 7: way back last spring, and then the Senate's taken a 320 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 7: while on a lot of nominees, and thankfully they resubmitted 321 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 7: you again. The White House has really stood by you, 322 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 7: and that's one reason it's so important to get you in. 323 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 7: They've admirably stood by their people even where they've faced 324 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 7: some you know, bad faith opposition, and I want to 325 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 7: make sure we get to this. So, especially if you 326 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 7: are in Utah, we want you to call Senator Curtis's offices. 327 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 7: We have respectfully being don't don't flip out, don't don't 328 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 7: bad Malcolm, don't say anything nasty, just say especially callin regardless, 329 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 7: but especially if you're. 330 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: In Utah, give him a call. 331 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 7: His DC office is to zero two two two four 332 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 7: five two five one. Let's repeat that for the podcast. 333 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 7: People to zero two two two four five two five 334 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 7: to one. Say you're calling your uh Utah voter if 335 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 7: you're from there, and you say, I'm calling about Jeremy 336 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 7: Carl's nomination to be Assistant Secretary of State for International 337 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 7: organizations mention that he was one of Charlie's favorites. He 338 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 7: really wanted him in that post. And you want the 339 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 7: Senator to honor Charlie. 340 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: I want to. 341 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 5: I want to underscore be respectful, respectful, and I also 342 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 5: want to underscore that Jeremy didn't know we were doing this, 343 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 5: so I just yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, please please please 344 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 5: please know this good backfire, Jeremy if you if handled poorly. 345 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 5: So just be very respectful to the Senator. 346 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm I'm. 347 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 5: Still hopeful because Jeremy, I know you're a man of 348 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 5: great charm and whimsy, and I know that. 349 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 4: I'm hoping I can, and you know, I'm glad. 350 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 6: I also you mentioned the degree to which the White 351 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 6: House has stood by me, which I really appreciate. I mean, 352 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 6: all of this stuff that did come out came out 353 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 6: since my initial nomination, and some of it was kind 354 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 6: of known, or at least it was out there, so 355 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 6: it wasn't a surprise. 356 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 4: Others of it, you know, sort of surfaced for the first. 357 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 6: Time, and the White House took all of that into 358 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 6: account and just said, you know, hey, this is still 359 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 6: our guy. 360 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 4: It doesn't change our view of him. 361 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 6: We know that he's a really strong guy and will 362 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 6: be good in this and I'm just, you know, incredibly 363 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 6: appreciative of the support of President Trump and Secretary of 364 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 6: Rubio to really stand strong at a time when a 365 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 6: lot of others would have folded. 366 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and look, listen the viewpoints that the Democrats 367 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 5: were hitting you with. You know, whether that in the 368 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: exchange you had with Corey Booker was hilarious to me. 369 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 5: He's like, really, you believe that, you know, you held 370 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 5: your ground, but it was just amazing to me that 371 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 5: this was like shocking to them. These are down the middle, 372 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: completely mainstream conservative beliefs that you hold. And the more 373 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 5: that they're going to try and gaslight the public and 374 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: thinking that mainstream conservative beliefs, by the way, proven We've 375 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 5: got a billion clips that prove all of these positions, 376 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 5: you know, you know, whatever, the fact that they're still 377 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 5: trying to act surprise about them at this point, Jeremy 378 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 5: is really That's why I said I felt like I 379 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 5: was in twenty twenty one, twenty nineteen, something like that, 380 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 5: twenty fourteen. Even what's your final message, Well, my. 381 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 6: Final message, I think is that I would love to 382 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 6: have the opportunity to serve the president and the country 383 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 6: in this role. I really appreciate the support of you guys. 384 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 6: I mean, Charlie, it was such a huge, huge loss, 385 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 6: just personally professionally, but I love the fact that you 386 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 6: guys are carrying on his legacy and really appreciative of 387 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: your support now and over the years. 388 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Jammy, carl we have your back. 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We just found out 433 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 5: that Robert Duval died, who is an iconic American actor, 434 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 5: kind of old Hollywood and just I think he was 435 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 5: a winger. 436 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah he was, Yeah, he was. 437 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, he was supporting McCain back in two thousand and eight. 438 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 7: That's well, come on, but with him, Okay, it's great. 439 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 7: Is it a sliding scale? Well, I mean he got old. 440 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 7: I think he was probably just less prominent because he. 441 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: Was well, he died at ninety five. 442 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 5: I mean he lived a good, long life and some 443 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 5: of the most iconic clips. You have one pulled up right, Yes, yes, 444 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 5: we have that ready to go. Let's make sure we 445 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 5: have that number. 446 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: At it all right, I say you have the clip ready? 447 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, So let's do two ninety eight. 448 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: You smell that. 449 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 8: Nike fuk Son. Nothing else lit the world smells like that. 450 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 8: I I love the smell of pipe palm in the morning. 451 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 8: Do you know what time we had a hillbomb for 452 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 8: twelve hours when it was all alive, walked up. 453 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: We didn't find one of them, that one thinking big body. 454 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 5: Spell. 455 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 8: You know that gasoline smell all hell. 456 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: Smell fuck. 457 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: Victory. 458 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Sean uh. 459 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw the news, but if 460 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 5: you have any thoughts on Robert Duval, feel free. 461 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 462 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: So my favorite role of his it wasn't on the 463 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: big screen. It was in the TV mini series of 464 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: Lonesome Dove, which I think is the greatest American novel 465 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: ever written, and he played uh Gus McCrae. I think 466 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: it's one of the greatest roles he ever played. It's 467 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: one of the greatest characters ever written, and he was 468 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: just spectacular. 469 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 7: He's a great role in my personal favorite film. At 470 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 7: least I used to always say this, I'd have to 471 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 7: rewatch it. It's been a while, but thank you for smoking. 472 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 7: Oh the movie about the tobacco lobbyist. He's the he's 473 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 7: the tobacco baron, tells you how to make a perfect mint. 474 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 7: Jewe lip talkt to him by Fidel. 475 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: Castro, all the all the obviously, the Godfather series, Open Range, 476 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 5: little appreciated movie of his Days of Thunder, which is 477 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 5: where Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman met and ended up 478 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 5: getting married. But Rebin's racing son, because he's a Tom 479 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 5: Cruise is getting is complaining that they keep bumping his 480 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 5: car and he's like, it's not bumping. 481 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 3: It didn't hit you. 482 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: They revenue Rebin's racing anyways. So many good movies, John Q, 483 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 5: The Great Santini, Jack Raacher, The Apostle. Uh, this guy 484 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: is legitimately one of just the most. I mean, he's 485 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 5: got movies in the seventies with Clinton Eastwood, the Network. 486 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: I mean he played Bobby Lee and gods in Generals. Yeah, okay, 487 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: I didn't see that. 488 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: Uh, secondhand, I forgot about Days of Thunder, which is 489 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: the second greatest racing movie ever made after Talladaga Nights. 490 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 4: Ricky Bobby. 491 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 492 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 5: Well, of course everybody knows this, and you're you're, you're, 493 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 5: you're a Southern gentleman. At this point, Sean, so you 494 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 5: can appreciate. I'm actually supposed to go to my first 495 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 5: NASCAR race in March. I think, uh, maybe I've got 496 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 5: that miss mistaken. Anyway, I've never been, but a lot 497 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 5: of people love it. A lot of people are saying, 498 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: all right, that's not why I had we had you on, 499 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 5: but the news just broke, And you know I I 500 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 5: love lifting up. Actually a talented actor that didn't disgrace himself, 501 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 5: that died of natural causes. There wasn't some crazy story involved, 502 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 5: so you know, God, God blessed them. God's country. I 503 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 5: loved this country he did. He's real American. What I 504 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 5: wanted to bring in sorry, I'm still getting over something. 505 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 5: All family pharmacy to help me out here. So what 506 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 5: I wanted to get in here, Sean is there was 507 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 5: a couple of clips that I couldn't help noticing and 508 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 5: drawing a pattern. First, one up, let's just start with 509 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 5: Obama because he went on this podcast made a little 510 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 5: bit of news. 511 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 3: Two, the same would be true. 512 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 9: Let's say here in Los Angeles around the homeless issue, 513 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 9: the average person doesn't want to have to navigate around 514 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 9: a tent city in the middle of downtown, and that 515 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 9: we're not going to be able to build a working 516 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 9: majority and support for the resources that we need to 517 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 9: help folks like that. We're not going to be able 518 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 9: to generate support for it if we simply say, you 519 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 9: know what, it's not their fault and so they should 520 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 9: be able to do whatever they want, because that's a 521 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 9: losing political strategy. 522 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 5: Okay, So my ears perked up when I heard that, 523 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 5: But then I heard another clip Sean from Hildebeast two 524 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 5: forty one. 525 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 10: I think we need to call it for what it is, 526 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 10: a legitimate reason to have a debate about things like migration. 527 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 10: It went too far. It's been disruptive and destabilizing, and 528 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 10: it needs to be fixed in a humane way with 529 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 10: secure borders that don't torture and kill people. 530 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 5: And she even Sean, you noticed she was doing the 531 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 5: thumb thing, the Clinton thumb point, so that I really 532 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 5: my ears perked up. 533 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 3: And then it all came together. 534 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 5: It all crystallized with Andy Basheer, the touted renowned moderate 535 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 5: from Kentucky play cut two forty. 536 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: How do you respond to a Democratic voter who might 537 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: say I like you, I like your track record in 538 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: a red state or red commonwealth, but you're too soft spoken. 539 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: Yes, that message is working. 540 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 11: Look at Abigail Spanberger and Mikey Cheryl, who ran great 541 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 11: campaigns in races that should have been structurally difficult, and 542 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 11: they both won by double digits. 543 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: You know, the. 544 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 11: DGA, and our candidates are winning everywhere. Many Americans feel 545 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 11: like the pendulum swung too far during the Bible administration 546 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 11: and have swung way too far during the Trump administration. 547 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 3: And what they want is in. 548 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 11: America where they can wake up every morning and not 549 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 11: be worried about its future. 550 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 6: Ah. 551 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 5: So okay, So Virginia is the model, Sean. You know 552 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 5: all about Virginia and you know all about Spamburger. What 553 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 5: are you gleaning from that series of clips we just played. 554 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fascinating to watch, especially all of them together. 555 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: To me, it's obvious what they're doing, and it's that 556 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: they understand. These these democrats, they understand they cannot get 557 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: elected saying the things that they believe. So now there's 558 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: a long campaign to get them to say things that 559 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: they don't believe but that sound good in the hopes 560 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: that they can get elected and then not do any 561 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: of those things. So you have Obama talking about dealing 562 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: with the homeless problem. Democrats don't care about dealing with 563 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: the homeless problem. But you have to say that because 564 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: people are sick of it. They don't like being accosted 565 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: by crazy drug addicts on the streets. So yeah, we'll 566 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: pretend to care about that. With Hillary, you have to 567 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: prove pretend to care about the borders, because that sound sane. 568 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: Now they don't care about the borders at all. And 569 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: then you had Bashir, who's really I don't even want 570 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: to say he's a left wing nut job. He's kind 571 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: of a nothing. He's the son of a popular former 572 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: Kentucky politician and that's the only reason he's in office. 573 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: But he let the mask slip there, especially with Spanberger, 574 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: who's a total left wing nut job, saying, look, we 575 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: just have to pretend to believe these things and say 576 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: things that sound nice, and then when we get an offense, 577 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: we don't have to do any of it. It's a 578 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: total con job. 579 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 580 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 5: Well, in remind folks about Virginia, I mean Virginia, like 581 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 5: when I say you're going full Virginia in twenty eight, 582 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 5: like that's full basically radical leftist communist DSA. Certainly, I 583 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 5: mean they are taking Virginia a D six state. I 584 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: mean Kamala held it by six points. They are taking 585 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 5: it into direction like it's a D forty state. This 586 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 5: is absolutely radical stuff and this is the playbook. Go 587 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 5: So what are they doing in Virginia. 588 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean they're all but banning ice. They're 589 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: undoing everything young Can did to reform schools and on 590 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: the trans issue. But I will have to say, in 591 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: a certain just real politics sense, I admire the Democrats 592 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: for what they're doing because they don't get stuck in 593 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: this trap that Republicans get in when they get in office, 594 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: if they only win by a single vote, they do 595 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of their agenda, and it's why they're 596 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: able to make such massive, sweeping cultural and political gains 597 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: in the country. You look at Obamacare. That thing was 598 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: a political disaster. They didn't care. They wanted to remake 599 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: the country and they had to do it by remaking healthcare. 600 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: And so I think Republicans actually can learn a little 601 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: something from this is that if you get in and 602 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: you use power for your ends to reward your friends 603 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: in constituency, you will be rewarded long term. And so Democrats, 604 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: they lie and they cheat and they steal. 605 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: But it works for. 606 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 5: Them, Yeah, I mean they This was just a few 607 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 5: days after getting sworn in. New four point three percent 608 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 5: sales tax on Uber eats, Amazon, et cetera, new sales 609 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 5: tax on emissions to a wild wide variety of businesses. 610 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 5: Create two new higher tax brackets of eight percent and 611 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 5: ten percent on people making over six hundred thousand, a 612 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 5: new ten percent bracket for anyone making over a million, 613 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 5: three point eight percent investment tax on top of state 614 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 5: income taxes, raise the hotel tax, new personal property tax 615 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 5: on landscaping equipment. 616 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: Ban gas powered. 617 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 5: Leaf blowers, of course, because California's just paved the way 618 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 5: on so much of this. 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And it feels like all hell's breaking 666 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 5: loose if you just look on exits, like allegations are 667 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 5: flying everywhere, people like Janis Joplin's in there, Elvis, Like 668 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 5: if you've been mentioned at all in a link of 669 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 5: an article, in an email from Jeffrey Epstein or somebody else, 670 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 5: you are mentioned in this what do we make of this? 671 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: And like, how should we think about it? 672 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really interesting looking at all the stuff 673 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: that's coming out, and yeah, there's a bazillion names in there, 674 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: but there are some very key trends that we see. 675 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: The main one is that through kind of his entire 676 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: career of all this influenced stuff, Jeffrey Epstein was a 677 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: tried and true Democrat. The people who were talking to 678 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: him the most often and going to his island were Democrats. 679 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: You had people like Reid Hoffman, this is a guy 680 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: who's been funding hoax after hoax on behalf of the Democrats. 681 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: You had Reid Hoffman who was BFFs with Jeffrey Epstein. 682 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: You had Kathy Rumbler, who is Obama's ethics are and 683 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: his White House counsel who is Epstein's fixer, who was 684 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: involved in working with him to help mitigate scandals facing 685 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: the Obama administration, even a secret Service scandal. And you 686 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: look at all this and you're like, man, this is 687 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: this is a pretty common theme here, Like Democrats were 688 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: completely in bed with this guy. And it's been really 689 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: interesting to watch the media cover this and do everything 690 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: they can to not mention Reid Hoffman, who is in 691 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: up to his neck in Epstein nonsense and now wants 692 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: to pretend, Oh, he was just a casual pin pal 693 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: with the guy. 694 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is from CANACOA the Great, said Reid. 695 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 5: Hoffman stayed at Jeffrey Epstein's ranch private island in Manhattan apartment. 696 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 5: He bought ice cream for the girls. That one's real fun, 697 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 5: a metal sculpture for the island. Hoffman donated over one 698 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 5: hundred million dollars to Democrat causes he founded, funded the 699 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 5: fake Russian bots on Twitter, and financed the eging Carol 700 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 5: lawsuit people forget that one. He funded Clear Choice pack 701 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 5: which used law fair to remove Robert F. Kennedy Junior 702 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 5: and Cornell West from the ballot and battleground states. So 703 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 5: he's literally used his So they emailed each other over 704 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 5: seventeen hundred times. I don't think I've emailed anybody seventeen 705 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 5: hundred times, like legitimately, they emailed each other seventeen They 706 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 5: called each other very close friends, discussed the visits to 707 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 5: Epstein's properties, private jet shopping, gift exchanges, and talked about 708 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 5: how much they missed each other. 709 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 7: That is five years of emails if they emailed once 710 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 7: every day. 711 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 5: Wow, I mean so apparently the craziest email again. Shout 712 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 5: out to Kanacoa the Great on X. In January twenty fifteen, 713 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 5: as allegations that Epstein trafficked Virginia Roberts to Prince Andrew 714 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 5: went global, Hoffman offered to help Epstein with his negative 715 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 5: press coverage. M very very fascinating. This is from CNN 716 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 5: here it says this new DOJ document and also mentioned 717 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 5: prominent individuals who had previously been linked to Epstein, including 718 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 5: President Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton, former Trump advisor 719 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 5: Steve Bannon, former White House counsel Kathy Rumler, and billionaire 720 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 5: magnate Les Wexner. I there's three point five million documents. 721 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 5: People are still pouring through them, Sean, So we're still 722 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 5: getting new details. People are keep coming up with new 723 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 5: kernels and new allegations, and it just seems like it's 724 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 5: a freaking mess out there. And it feels like everything 725 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 5: that our friend Mike Davis warned about earlier in the 726 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 5: year last year has basically become true. That there is 727 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 5: so much lack of context, there's so much there's a 728 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 5: lot of stuff, there's a lot of information, and there's 729 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 5: not a whole lot of guidance on what's true, what's 730 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 5: out like mirror hearsay, what's you know, out of context, 731 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 5: just mentioning of names. And it does feel like a 732 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 5: lot of the people you didn't want to listen to 733 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 5: them at the time have been proven right, that people 734 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 5: are just getting smeared and like out of nowhere, innocent 735 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 5: people are getting hurt and some of the victims are 736 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 5: getting hurt too. 737 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 738 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: Well, and you had ro Kanna another Reid Hoffmann and 739 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: democrat ally go to the floor, you know, along with 740 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: Thomas Massey, and they outed you know, six people who 741 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: were on there as people on who were doing stuff 742 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: with Epstein. They were random people in a lineup that 743 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: was tangentially related to Epstein. These are random people. They 744 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. They apparently just had their photos 745 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: taken at the wrong time. The thing that I find 746 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 1: so exasperating is, yes, we have a bazillion documents now 747 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: and we're able to learn a lot. The one thing 748 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: that I want to know is which intelligencies was he 749 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: working for? Which ones? I don't believe anyone when they 750 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: tell me, oh, he wasn't doing anything with the CIA. 751 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: He wasn't doing anything with Masad, he wasn't doing anything 752 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: with the Saudi's. Nope, he was just a weird guy 753 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: doing stuff. No one believes that, And I guess my 754 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: frustration is, after all this time, after all these years, 755 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: I just assume all the documents they had, if they 756 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: ever even had them, that tell us those things that 757 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: answer those questions, are gone, and I just find the 758 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: whole thing maddening and frustrating because I feel like that's 759 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: the one thing people want to know, tell us who 760 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 1: he was working for, and that's the one thing apparently 761 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: we're never going to get to know. 762 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 5: For certain well, and it's like, why does he foya himself? 763 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 5: Why does he foya the CIA twice? I know Blake's 764 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 5: is a nas and I'm the big skeptic. 765 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: I think I think. 766 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 5: I'm completely with you. I don't believe it. I think 767 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 5: he was. It was soft power. Yeah, He's not like 768 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 5: here's my here's your W two for the CIA. It 769 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 5: wasn't like that, guys. This was all soft power behind 770 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 5: the scenes. 771 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 3: If that's what it was, then the question is like 772 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 3: how far does it go? 773 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 7: Because if it's a much more casual arrangement where he 774 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 7: just deals in information. 775 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 3: Sometimes that's I guess. 776 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 7: Then you ask, what's the big scandal there, because the 777 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 7: claim is, of course that he was doing intel ops 778 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 7: that might blackmail people and trap people get really involved. 779 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: I think he was running. 780 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: I think he was doing financial transact That's what I think. 781 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,959 Speaker 1: And I think they let him do the kinky sex 782 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: crap because he was valuable for them with the financial 783 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: laundry and all that. But I don't think you'll ever know. 784 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 5: Gotta gotta leave, gotta leave it there. We'll see you 785 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 5: guys tomorrow. Thank you, Sean Davis. 786 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: For more on many of these stories and news you 787 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com