1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. No victocrats allowed, because we've got 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: a country to say, so, let's get hearted up. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: With that. 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Subdego Triple nine seven two four three triple eight ninety 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: seven to one s A. G. E. Larry Elder, Salem 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: News Channel. What exactly was the illegal immigration arrest and 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: attention deportation policy under Obama? Marco Rubio Secretary of State 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: versus Illinois Democrat Senator Tammy Duckworth over the legality of 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Trump's military actions against Venezuela. We're going to take a 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: look at whether Obama and Biden complied with the War 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: Powers Act that supposedly Trump should be Biden by. We're 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: gonna take a look at the effect of the controversy 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: over ICE and the effect of redistricting on the midterms. 14 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Is another shut down imminent? Even Governor Gavin Newsom of 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: California opposes defunding and abolishing ICE. A Florida labor and 16 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: delivery nurse is banned from practicing in Florida over her 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: online wish for Caroline Leavitt to suffer harm when giving 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: birth to her baby. A Virginia hospital fires a nurse 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: who urge healthcare workers to inject ICE agents with a 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: drug that causes paralysis. Is military action against Iran imminent? 21 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: And it turns out the protests at the city's church 22 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: in Saint Paul was not exactly unprecedented. All of that 23 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: and more Triple eight ninety seven one seven two four three, 24 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: Triple eight ninety seven one sage descent, of course, is 25 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: welcome before we get to the Borderzaars, saying that the 26 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Minnesota Minnesota authorities have now agreed to allow ICE to 27 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: enter jails and prisons and will honour their detainer. Before 28 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: we get to that Trump derangement syndrome. Maybe someday there'll 29 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: be a vaccine. Florida labor and delivery nurse was banned 30 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: yesterday from practicing in Florida after posting online that she 31 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: wishes White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt to suffer severe 32 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: bodily harm when giving birth to her baby. Her name 33 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: is Lexi Lawler and here's what she posted quote. As 34 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: a labor and delivery nurse, it gives me great joy 35 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: to wish Caroline Leavitt a fourth degree tear. I hope 36 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: that you effing ripped from bowdistern and never blank normally again. 37 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: You c word a fourth degree taar. According to the 38 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: Mayo Clinic, it's one of the most severe tears of 39 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: a woman can experience during childbirth. She used to work 40 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: for a Baptist Health Boker returned regional hospital, but they 41 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: issued a statement no longer there. Florida Surgeon General issued 42 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: an emergency suspension after outrage erupted on social media. The 43 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: Florida ag also said, quote, effective today, Lexi Lawler is 44 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: no longer allowed to practice nursing in Florida. By the way, 45 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: another healthcare professional, the vice president of the First Choice 46 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: Home Health in Cleveland, Ohio, said something very similar quote, 47 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: I hope the baby is so healthy. Hope she's healthy 48 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: and headstrong, so headstrong in fact, she will be merging 49 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: into this world through Caroline's geriatric tech garage that she 50 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: tears her from bow to effing stern. Great for tear, 51 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: like so big that when she gets to the showered 52 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: naked and walks across the room, she accidentally picks up 53 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: dog toys. Yes, that's my wish for you, Caroline. So 54 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: First Choice Home Health announced that Chanda Petrie Zaruk is 55 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: no longer with the organization. Maybe mister McConnell can explain 56 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: to me this business about when she gets out of 57 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: the shower nakedly and walks naked and walks across the room, 58 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: she actually picks up dog toys. What does that even mean? 59 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: Mister McConnell said, I can't explain that, but I can't 60 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: do it on the air. I figured you would know. 61 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: How did I know that you would know? 62 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: That? 63 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: Sad isn't it? Here's another one. Virginia Nurse Hospital nurse 64 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: fired after she encouraged other medical professionals to inject ICE 65 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: officers with a drug that temporarily paralyzes muscles in an 66 00:04:52,839 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: effort to quote unquote sabotage them. Woman posted another video 67 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: in which appeared in scrubs and urged viewers to use 68 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: poison ivy silk water and a water gun and shoot 69 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: ice officers in the face. She also called on single 70 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: women to meet up with ice agents on dating apps 71 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: and spike their drinks with laxatives. She said they won't die, 72 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: it will incapacitate them and mean that they'll be off 73 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: the street for the next day. She also said find 74 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: where they are at the hotel, find out who makes 75 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: their breakfast, and urged the hotel staff to hide dead 76 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: fish and ice officers room. Then there's this. One New 77 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: York Post says a trio of Federal Air Marshals from 78 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: an LA restaurant were chased out after a bunch bunch 79 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: of people mistook them for ICE agents. They were dining 80 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: at a Korean barbecue in an area of California called 81 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: Lynwood when a mob apparently alerted to them under social media, 82 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: surrounded them confronted them. One woman said, you like to 83 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: harass people. Huh, how does it feel to be effing harassed? 84 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: Keep in mind these are air marshals, not ICE officers. 85 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: One man tried to tell the woman he was from TSA, 86 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: but she assumed he was lying. The crowd became so routy. 87 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: LA sheriff Department was called in to help. The air 88 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: marshals were ultimately escorted to an unmarked van and taken 89 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: to the Sheriff's department station. No reports of arrests or injuries. 90 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: And finally there's this. A Minnesota man allegedly tried to 91 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: break into Luigi Man Joni Sell by posing as an 92 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: FBI agent. Said that he was an FBI agent to officials, 93 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: said he had paperwork signed by a judge authorizing the 94 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: release of Mangione. The Bureau of Prison staff asked to 95 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: see this man's credentials, which led him to show his 96 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Minnesota driver's license, and then he warned the staff he 97 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: had weapons in his bag. A search of his bag 98 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: found a barbecue fork and a tool resembling a pizza cutter. 99 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: Man has now been arrested. This brings us to Tom 100 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Holman's visit to Minnesota. He says, after meeting with the 101 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: Minnesota ag and the Mayor of Minneapolis and conversation with 102 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: the governor, that the Minnesota officials have now agreed to 103 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: allow greater cooperation with ICE and to now honor ICE detentions, 104 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: meaning request to release to ICE custody people who are 105 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: behind bars. That is a major victory. How long have 106 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: we said this would need to be happening if ICE 107 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: detained requests were being honored. Because they weren't being honored, 108 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: you had to go in the streets and get bad guys. 109 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: That policy has now been changed. Now, let's talk a 110 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: little bit about the ICE arrest and detention policy under 111 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: one baraque Obama. Obama yesterday said that the tactics unfolding 112 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: in Minnesota post a threat to quote basic freedoms of 113 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: every American. Obama on a shared media post said, more 114 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: and more Americans are voicing their outrage at the tactics 115 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: being deployed by federal agents in Minnesota. End of quote. 116 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a look at the tactics that were 117 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: employed by ICE during the Obama administration. The ACLU August fifteen, 118 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, during the Obama administration, posted an article called 119 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: Customs Border Patrol has a culture of impunity and violence. 120 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Massive corruption problem covering up fatal shootings by agents, says 121 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: the ACOU during the Obama administration. The American Immigration Council 122 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: March twenty sixteen. During the Obama administration, two people died 123 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: in immigration detention this week. According to records. It happens 124 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: quite frequently, says the American Immigration Council. Another article about 125 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: the border patrol said it was monstrous under Obama. December morning, 126 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: agents confronted a fifteen year old high school student at 127 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: a rest stop, asked whether she was illegal, and the 128 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 1: ACOUS said, quote, if you assume this happened during the 129 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Trump administration, think again. The woman was threatened by in 130 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine by President Obama's border patrol and 131 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: her treatment was not an isolated incident, end of quota. 132 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: Where were the protests. We're going to look at a 133 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: frontline documentary about the detention policies and arrest policies of 134 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: illegal aliens under the Obama administration. Do not leave town parents. 135 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: The biggest question in education today is how artificial intelligence 136 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: is shaping the way your student learns. Artificial intelligence is 137 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: changing education faster than most schools are willing to admit, 138 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: and many families are rightly concerned. At Patrick Henry College, 139 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: the goal isn't to outsource thinking to machines. It's to 140 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: train students to think for themselves. PhD emphasizes a Christian 141 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: liberal arts education that develops reasoning, writing, speaking, and discernment 142 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: skills no algorithm can replace. Students learn to engage technology wisely, 143 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: understanding its capabilities but also its danger and limitations, rather 144 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: than becoming dependent on it. In a world increasingly shaped 145 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: by AI, Patrick Henry College prepares students to lead with wisdom, conviction, 146 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: and moral clarity. 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Larry Elders, Salem News Channel. 153 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: We've often talked about the fact that Obama deported twice 154 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: as many people as has President Trump, and at the 155 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: rate at which Trump is going, he has three more years, 156 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: he still won't catch up with Obama. Well, the deportation 157 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: under Obama were done that were done form or humane. 158 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: There weren't people doing mass raids out in the streets. Really, 159 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: ice ations weren't in the streets. There is a documentary 160 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: that came out in twenty eleven, so that's what two 161 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: years into the first term of Barack Obama. It was 162 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: a frontline documentary PBS. We no longer pay for these 163 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: kinds of documentaries. It was called Lost in Detention number 164 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: twenty nine. 165 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: Tonight on FOT fire. As a candidate, he promised to 166 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: fix the immigration system. 167 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 5: The system just isn't working and we need to change it. 168 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 4: As President Obama cracked down hard. 169 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: What did he give us? 170 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 6: A million people have been deported. 171 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 4: Frontline, The Investigative Reporting Workshop and correspondent Maria in Ojosa 172 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 4: investigate Obama's tough immigration enforcement. 173 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 7: Hasn't the president ended up enacting the Republican agenda? 174 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 8: What the President is doing is enforcing law the land, 175 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 8: examining his promise to deport hardened criminals. 176 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 9: One thousand murderers, six thousand sex offenders, forty five thousand 177 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 9: serious drug violators. 178 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: While critics say the program has swept up thousands of 179 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: immigrants with no criminal record. 180 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: A mother who had a broken tail, like being separated 181 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: maybe forever from her children. 182 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 10: They look they don't understand how their mother could have 183 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 10: been thrown out of the country. 184 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: And investigating conditions in the vast network of immigrant detention. 185 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 11: Centers, women harassed for sexual favors, gorus, taking detainees and 186 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 11: beating them, running him down like they were animals. 187 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 4: Tonight, how the politics of immigration are lost in detention. 188 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 7: These are the front lines of a new immigration crackdown 189 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 7: in America. Federal officers from ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement 190 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 7: on their way to arrest some of the millions of 191 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 7: immigrants who are in the country illegally. 192 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: First target guys, he's got conviction of hit and run. Also, 193 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: he's got uys, he's a final order. He goes to 194 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: work between six thirty seven o'clock. 195 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: Any questions good. 196 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 7: The so called fugitive operations are part of an immigration 197 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 7: enforcement offensive. 198 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the guy's going to be here. 199 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 7: That has reached historic levels under the Obama administration. 200 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 12: The team has been doing surveillance on this house for 201 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 12: the last few days out right here right. 202 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 7: This year, about four hundred thousand undocumented immigrants will be 203 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 7: detained and deported totally, more than one million since Obama 204 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 7: took office. 205 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 9: We have a job to do immigration law, and we 206 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 9: seek to remove people that are here illegally. 207 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: From me to interject again, this is a joint ice 208 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: and custom to border patrol operation in the streets, and 209 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: the target was four hundred thousand per year. If you 210 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: do the math, that's exactly how many illegal aliens were 211 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: deported under the Obama administration. Again, joint ice custom border 212 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: patrol in the streets. 213 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 9: In terms of protecting the public and also in terms 214 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 9: of border security. We're setting records with our enforcement results. 215 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 13: In terms of apprehending people, putting them into a detention system, 216 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 13: and then removing them from the country. The scale has 217 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 13: gone way up under Obama. The numbers are significantly higher 218 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 13: than they were under Bush. So Obama has juiced upped 219 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 13: the Bush policies. 220 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: We have strengthened border security beyond what many believed was 221 00:15:58,880 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 5: possible earlier. 222 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 7: This here the President came to the border in El Paso. 223 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 5: Now I have more boots on the ground. 224 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 7: To defend his tough enforcement policies, and we. 225 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 5: Are deporting those who are here. 226 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 7: Illegally well at the same time pushing for comprehensive immigration reform. 227 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: Now, we need to come together around reform that reflects 228 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 5: our values as a nation of laws and a nation 229 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: of immigrants. 230 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 14: The administration has believed since it was sworn in that 231 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 14: in order to make the political ground fertile for a 232 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 14: comprehensive immigration reform bill, that enforcement had to come first. 233 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 14: But there is no chance of comprehensive immigration reform in 234 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 14: the current political environment. There's no support on the Republican sign. 235 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 13: Washington has been unable to enact new immigration legislation for 236 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 13: like twenty years, and it's in this vacuum that enforcement, 237 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 13: all of a sudden, has become this kind of talisman 238 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 13: that you have to prove the government is in control. 239 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 14: And the absence of reform, we're left with essentially enforcement 240 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 14: on steroids. But that's all we're left with. That is 241 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 14: our immigration policy. 242 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 7: This is the story of how that policy is playing out, 243 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 7: often far from the border, in places like Maple Park, 244 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 7: in the president's home state of Illinois. Antonio Arseu and 245 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 7: his wife moved to Maple Park from California five years 246 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 7: ago to raise their five children and live. 247 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: Did you hear that often far from the border in 248 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: Obama's home state of Illinois? Continue from your family? 249 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 7: Then, last February, Antonio told me he received a call 250 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 7: that changed everything. 251 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 10: I was working at about four o'clock. I received a 252 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 10: call from my wife's own cell phone, but a man 253 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 10: was speaking. He asked in English if I knew Rosana Garcia. 254 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 10: Who's my wife? I said yes. He said, it's the police, 255 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 10: Caine County Sheriff. Your wife has been detained for not 256 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 10: carrying a license. Can you come pick up your kid? 257 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 7: Rosanna had been stopped for speeding and was held overnight 258 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 7: in the county jail. 259 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 10: Next morning, when I went back, she was no longer there. 260 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 10: I asked the lady there. 261 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: How come? 262 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 10: They told me she was getting out the next day, 263 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 10: she said, no, Immigration came this morning and took her away. 264 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 7: Antonio had no idea what the government had done with 265 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 7: his wife. He spent days looking for her. 266 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back, We're gonna get back to this. 267 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: But here's the point. Obama had a goal of four 268 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: hundred thousand deportations a year. To do the maths exactly 269 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: what he did. This front Line documentary came out in 270 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, twenty eleven. Did anybody have to sing this 271 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: refer to Barack Obama as a Nazi, as a fascist? 272 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: Anybody say, wait a minute, I thought you were gonna 273 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: pick up the worst of the worst. Woman made a 274 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: lane change, gets pulled over, she is illegal, She ultimately 275 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: gets deported. Did anybody scream and yell and go out 276 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: in the streets refer to him as a fascist and 277 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: a Nazi and a dictator? No fly zone over Obama? Unreal? 278 00:19:52,720 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: More on this, we come back on Larry Odin Triple 279 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: eight nine seven one Sage Triple eight nine seven one 280 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: seven two fourty three. 281 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 15: I M. 282 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Larry Elder. We're looking at a Frontline documentary that came 283 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: out in twenty eleven talking about the arrest and detention 284 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: policies by ICE and border Patrol under Obama, who had 285 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: the hutzba to on social media say the basic freedoms 286 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: of every American are being threatened by the policies under 287 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Again, ACLU border patrol was monstrous under Obama. 288 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: American Immigration Council twenty sixteen. Two people died in immigration 289 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: detention this week. Ac OU August twenty fourteen. Whistleblower says 290 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: custom border patrol has culture of impunity and violence. Chero 291 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: is in Los Alamitos, California. Share your Larry Old show, 292 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: thank you. 293 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 16: For calling, Oh Larry. 294 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 17: First of all, God bless you. Mom is a ninety 295 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 17: eight year old Holocaust survivor. She was in auspits, she 296 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 17: was in guide Swing and she's liberating in doc out. 297 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 17: When you ran Mom in doors to and I'm just 298 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 17: so tired, and so is Mom. Of turning on the 299 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 17: news and have everybody compare ICE to Nazis and Hitler 300 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 17: and concentration camps. There's got to be something else you 301 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 17: can compare them to. How about people who are trying 302 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 17: to do their jobs and remove people who are here illegally, 303 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 17: most of whom have committed crimes and heinous crimes like 304 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 17: killing people like our own Kate Steinley here in California, Docklyn, 305 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 17: Nungerie Lake and Riley and all of these children of 306 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 17: the Angel moms and dads. When Mom was in the 307 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 17: concentration camp. For those of you who think this is 308 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 17: what the same thing is, people were tortures, beaten, gang rates, 309 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 17: you know, beheaded and gassed like my mom's parents and 310 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 17: sisters and brothers. Mom came from eleven children her family 311 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 17: in Auschwitz. They were gassed and burned in crematoria. Mom 312 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 17: when she came to this country, she waited five years 313 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 17: in displaced persons camps in Germany. And my aunt, who 314 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 17: was living here as an American citizen, sends papers to 315 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 17: bring my mom here legally, saying, Mom, it's not a communist, 316 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 17: he is not a socialist. The United States government will 317 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 17: not have to support mom. Mom will not take a 318 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 17: job from any American. She will have a place to live. 319 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 17: When she came here in nineteen fifty, she went to 320 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 17: night school in Detroit to learn English and get her 321 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 17: high school diploma, and by day she worked making matt 322 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 17: bedspreads and drake. And she is a proud Jewish American 323 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 17: who obeys the law. If you don't want to be arrested, 324 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 17: you don't go attacking law enforcement or its local, state 325 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 17: or federal. You don't go, you know, fitting at people 326 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 17: throwing the directiles. That is not anything to do with 327 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 17: free speech. And the only reason that Democrats are making 328 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 17: a big deal out of this now is because they're 329 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 17: trying to deflect ever since we found out about all 330 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 17: the fraud, and we have fraud in every single state 331 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 17: and this is happening everywhere, and the Americans pastpayer should 332 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 17: be caring about our citizens and about keeping the law, 333 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 17: which is why you've been mentioning Obama. He was for 334 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 17: immigration reform. He was for following the law. So is 335 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 17: Bill Clinton. They're only doing this because they want the 336 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 17: Democrats in power, because they have no policies and no 337 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 17: people to run on. And God bless you for calling 338 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 17: this out, because we're just so tired of it, and 339 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 17: on our side of the aisle, I will say, since 340 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 17: I call balls and strike the people who are the 341 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 17: podcast cancers who are saying all this anti Semitic, anti Israel, 342 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 17: anti Christian stuff, you guys don't belong on the Republican 343 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 17: side of the aisle. And if you're thinking of running 344 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 17: for president, boy oh boy, you better distance yourself from 345 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 17: people like that, because that's not what we stand for. 346 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 17: We love people like Larry and the values that he 347 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 17: always talks about on this show. And like I said, 348 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 17: this is just so upsetting because it was International Holocaust 349 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 17: Remembrance Day and instead of people getting out there and 350 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 17: learning about so many of us your father, my father 351 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 17: fought as part of the greatest generation for this country 352 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 17: for freedom and you know, to keep like our Judeo 353 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 17: Christian values, and you're demeaning them. You're demeaning survivors like mom, 354 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 17: and you're demeaning the six million Jews who even the 355 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 17: person who's second to the president didn't mention in his 356 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 17: little tweet, six million Jews who were murdered not because 357 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 17: they were, you know, doing something like drug smuggling or 358 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 17: sex trafficking or you know, raping children. That's because of 359 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 17: who they were. And that's the difference. And that's not 360 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 17: what ICE is doing. And we should respect our law 361 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 17: enforcement and we should get behind them. 362 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: This is so so Upsetica beautifully beautifully expressed, thank you 363 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: so much for calling I appreciate it. We're going to 364 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: get back to this frontline documentary about attention, detention and 365 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: arrest by ICE and customs under a croc wile bombs 366 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: we were the protests. 367 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 18: Now, that's that's gross and that I absolutely condemned that. Absolutely, 368 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 18: do not compare anyone, anyone to the Nazis. Don't use 369 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 18: that kind of rhetoric. You know, that can incite violence. 370 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 18: And now that's I strongly reject that and condemn that 371 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 18: kind of lifelanguage and the strongest terms. You know, members 372 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 18: of ICE are not Nazis. I don't compare anyone to 373 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 18: Gestapo and those things. You know, this is one of 374 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 18: the reasons why I think we should stand down in 375 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 18: what's happening in Minneapolis. You know, we all have to 376 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 18: reduce the temperature, we have to turn it down, and 377 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 18: using that kinds of rhetoric, you know, again, I can't 378 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 18: ever support that. And I have a basic rule in politics. 379 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 18: Don't compare anyone to Nazis. I don't care, you just 380 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 18: don't do that. These are not Nazis. 381 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: So for me, when you Senator John Fetterman Triple eight 382 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: nine seven one sa Ge Triple eight nine seven one 383 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: seven two four to three. I am Larry Elder. We 384 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: are stale in news Channel brought to you from the 385 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: Belief Actor Studios. Don't forget your relief Factor eight hundred four, 386 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: relief at eight hundred to number four relief or Relieffactor 387 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: dot com relief Factor dot com. Back to the frontline 388 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: documentary called Lost in Detention, which was in twenty eleven 389 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: during the Obama administration, no. 390 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 7: Idea what the government had done with his wife. He 391 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 7: spent days looking. 392 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 10: For her, and I went around to all the jails 393 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 10: where she could possibly have been held, and nobody would 394 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 10: give me information at So at that point, I was 395 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 10: desperate because we didn't know what had happened. 396 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 7: What he didn't know is that Drugsanna had been taken 397 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 7: six hours away to southern Illinois, swept up by the 398 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 7: administration's widening net of enforcement. Roxanna was being held in detention. 399 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 7: At the center of this story is a federal program 400 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 7: called Secure Communities, in which ICE has extended its reach 401 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 7: by enlisting the help of local law enforcement to better 402 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 7: identify illegal immigrants who have committed crimes. The Sheriff's Department 403 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 7: here in Lake County, Illinois, north of Chicago, joined Secure 404 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 7: Communities in twenty ten. The sheriff is Mark Curran. 405 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 19: I think in law enforcement, especially since nine to eleven, 406 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 19: it has been impressed upon us that we need to 407 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 19: work as a team. When you have local, state, and 408 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 19: federal law enforcement, all sharing information, all working together, all 409 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 19: contributing to each other's task forces, that's when we work best. 410 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 7: An elected Republican and former prosecutor folks Current says he 411 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 7: came to realize that about twenty percent of those locked 412 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 7: up in his jail were undocumented immigrants. 413 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 9: They're everywhere. 414 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 19: Probably that's one of the people that's in here, in 415 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 19: all likelihood is undocumented. 416 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 7: He decided the government wasn't being tough enough. 417 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 19: As a result, I thought, you know, let's close down 418 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 19: these borders. Let's start deporting these people as fast as 419 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 19: we can, and let's return the rule of law to 420 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 19: its place. 421 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 7: Secure communities seemed like the right tool. 422 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 20: The goal is to identify people aliens who are removable 423 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 20: from the United States based on their criminal background while 424 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 20: they're still within the premise of the criminal justice system, 425 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 20: not giving the opportunity to. 426 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: Be released on the street and commit other crimes. 427 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 20: This system is designed where a person would be arrested, 428 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 20: booked into a jail or a prison, and just by 429 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 20: the submission of those fingerprints, instantly sent off. Not only 430 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 20: would all of the criminal justice systems be checked, the 431 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 20: immigration databases would also be checked at the same time, 432 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 20: So within seconds, literally seconds, you would have the immigration 433 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 20: vetting almost complete by identifying that person. 434 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 7: Do we know why he was arrested. 435 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 21: It appears that he got charged with leaving the scene 436 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 21: of accident that resulted in injury and or death. 437 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: It is a felony. 438 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 7: The Obama administration says secure communities is essential to making 439 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 7: the worst criminals off the streets and removing them from 440 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 7: the country. 441 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 9: We have record breaking numbers in terms of criminal aland 442 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 9: removals one hundred and ninety five thousand last year, about 443 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 9: half of the people we removed that included one thousand murderers, 444 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 9: six thousand sex offenders, forty five thousand serious drug violators. 445 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,239 Speaker 9: As we expand the deployment of secure communities focused on 446 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 9: criminal aliens, you'll see that number continue to go up 447 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 9: and up. 448 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 7: But critics say secure communities is sweeping up more than 449 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 7: just serious criminals, and in Illinois, one case in particular, 450 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 7: got a lot of attention. It started about seventy five 451 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 7: miles west of Chicago in McHenry County, when local police 452 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 7: made a routine traffic stop in March of twenty ten. 453 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 7: The driver had changed lanes without signaling. 454 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 11: All of a sudden, I saw the lights on the 455 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 11: police car turn on. That's when the policeman stopped me. 456 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 11: I didn't even know why until later on. He asked 457 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 11: me for my driver's license and car insurance. I didn't 458 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 11: have a license. He said, I was going to be 459 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 11: arrested to cause someone to pick up my truck and 460 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 11: little girl. He simply put me in the car and 461 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 11: took me to jail. 462 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 7: What did you understand that you were being arrested. 463 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 11: For because I didn't have a license. 464 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 7: When Susanna Ramidez was booked into custody, her fingerprints were 465 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 7: sent to ICE under the Secure Communities Program. ICE quickly 466 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 7: put a hold on her. She was in the country illegally. 467 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 7: Have you ever been arrested before? Do you have a 468 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 7: criminal record? 469 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 11: No, that was the only time, not even in Mexico. 470 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 11: This is the first time this has ever happened to me. 471 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 7: A single mom with two daughters, both American citizens, Ramidez 472 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 7: says she fled the violence of Mexico's drug wars after 473 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 7: being threatened with kidnapping in her hometown of Durango. She 474 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 7: came to the US legally in two thousand and seven 475 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 7: and found work in Illinois cleaning houses. Then she overstayed 476 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 7: her visa and says she was afraid to return home. 477 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 6: But Ami me for me. 478 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 11: The place I wanted to be was Mexico, Mexico, but 479 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 11: I had to emigrate because of the circumstances for fear. 480 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: This is a twenty eleven front Line documentary. Twenty eleven, 481 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: during the Obama administration, what's this separating families, separating mothers 482 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: from their children? Where the pitchforks? Where were the chants 483 00:32:54,280 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: of Nazi, of Hitler, of dictator? Well, Larry, the you 484 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: know Ice wasn't in the streets, Yes they were. Well, 485 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: you know Ice didn't just pick up people that had 486 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: as one person in this dockmen and put it tick 487 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: a tack fines. Yeah they did. Now let me tell 488 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: you about Brian from Alabama, my mom's home state. He 489 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: tells us after taking relief Factor for just three weeks, 490 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: ninety percent of my pain is gone. My pain had 491 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: started to limit me at working at home, Brian said, 492 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: and now I'm amazed at the relief I've gotten. End 493 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: of quote. These are Brian's own words, and they speak 494 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: volumes about what relief Factor can do. 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Relief Factor dot 503 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: com eight hundred four Relief eight hundred the number four relief. 504 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 22: Tonight's graceful. She's got to go. We are dead serious. 505 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 22: She needs to be put on ice permanently. 506 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 6: She's gotta go. 507 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 22: And by the way, she's not the only one. 508 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s a g E triple 509 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: eight ninety seven one seven two four three. I am 510 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: Larry Elder. We are Salem News Channel. That is the 511 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: house Minority Leader Hakim Jeffrey saying that Hakeem saying that 512 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: Christy Nome she would put on ice permanently. And they're 513 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: also called for her impeachment. Where were the calls for 514 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: the impeachment of Ja Johnson, Obama's DHS secretary. Where were they? 515 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: We're going to continue the excerpt from the Frontline documentary 516 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: called Lost and Attention came out in twenty eleven under 517 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: Barack Obama. We're also going to talk about another double standard. 518 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio has just had a feisty exchange between the 519 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: Illinois Senator Tammy Duckworth over at Trump's use of the 520 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: military in his campaign against Venezuela. Allegedly, Trump is violating 521 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: the War Powers Act. How was the War Powers Act 522 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: respected under Oh? I don't know, Presidents Obama and Biden. 523 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: That'll be coming up. But back to the Frontline documentary. 524 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 11: For fear, Because of fear exactly is another mediate. 525 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 7: The sympathetic story of a mother facing deportation was picked 526 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 7: up by immigration activists and politicians. 527 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: And I'm a person who was detained. 528 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 7: A state bill known as Susanna's Law was introduced to 529 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 7: deny funding for secure communities. 530 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 16: The federal government should stop deporting the parents of American 531 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 16: citizen children who have never like this wonderful woman, who 532 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,959 Speaker 16: have never committed any serious violation of the law. 533 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 3: Leaders in the immigrant community came to the governor and 534 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 3: met with us on the staff and said the participation 535 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 3: in secure communities is driving a wedge between our neighbors, 536 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 3: our families, and our local law enforcement. 537 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 7: Jerry Stermer is a top advisor to the Democratic governor 538 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 7: of Illinois Pat Quinn, a close Obama ally. Sturmer says 539 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 7: the administration had sold secure Communities to Illinois as a 540 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 7: program targeting the worst of the worst. 541 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: We're talking about murderers and rapists to arsonist and the 542 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 3: most serious. And that was very clear. That's what we 543 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 3: heard about, and that's what we understood. 544 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: Uh was going on. We'll get back to that in 545 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: just a second. Pulled over for illegal lane change, ends 546 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: up being arrested and deported. Where were the cries for 547 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: the impeachment of Jay Johnson. Nobody called him a Nazi. 548 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: Now this was broadcast in twenty eleven. Nobody cared. But 549 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: Trump is a fascist. I'm Larry Elder, So let's get 550 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: her teed up. That triple eight nine seven one s 551 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: A G. E. Triple eight nine seven one seven two 552 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: four three. Larry Elders sailed on the news channel, President 553 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: Trump is signed an executive order to deal with drug 554 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: addictional Talk about that later on. We're also going to 555 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: talk about another double standard. Marco Rubio and the Senator 556 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: from Illinois, Tammy Duckbark, had a fierce exchange over Trump's 557 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: failure to adhere to the so called War Powers Act? 558 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: Did Obama and Biden adhere to the War Powers Act? 559 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: Were they accused of being dictators? Here's more from the 560 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: twenty eleven documentary which came out during the Obama administration 561 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: called Lost in Detention. 562 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 7: But when the Governor's office looked at ICE's own statistics 563 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 7: and discovered that less than twenty percent of those deported 564 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 7: from Illinois had been convicted of a serious crime, they 565 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 7: concluded they'd been sold a bill of goods. 566 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: We met on a number of occasions with the federal 567 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 3: officials and said, this isn't this isn't going the way 568 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 3: that you had described it and that we had understood. 569 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 3: Can we fix this? And they said, well, if we're 570 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 3: looking for the most serious offenders and we want to 571 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 3: deport them, There's going to be collateral damage. And we thought, 572 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 3: are we talking about collateral damage of a mother who 573 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 3: had a broken tail light being separated maybe forever from 574 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 3: her children. And we said to them, our interest is 575 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 3: in zero collateral damage, not some collateral damage. 576 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 23: Wow. 577 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 7: Wow, that collateral damage has been felt here in Lake County, Illinois. 578 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 6: My last name is Ramirez. 579 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 7: After eighteen months of Secure Communities, Sheriff Mark currn, once 580 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 7: a supporter of the program, has had a surprising change 581 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 7: of heart. 582 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 19: When I deal with the Latino community throughout Lake County. 583 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 19: There's fear that's running through these communities. They know all 584 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 19: about secure communities. They know the horror stories of their 585 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 19: uncle or their brother that committed the most ticky te 586 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 19: of offenses got incarcerated as a result and is now 587 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 19: being deported. 588 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 7: But for supporters of Secure Communities, the program is doing 589 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 7: exactly what it should be doing. 590 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 2: So when you. 591 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 7: Hear stories about unauthorized immigrants now living in a state 592 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 7: of fear because they could be detained and put into 593 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 7: a detention center, you think this fear is a good thing. 594 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 595 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 24: I mean it's supposed to be. It's like if you're 596 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 24: speeding on the highway and you're afraid there might be 597 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 24: a trooper around the corner. Or if you want to 598 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 24: claim a couple of extra deductions on your income tax 599 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 24: form and you're worried about the irs maybe paying attention, 600 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 24: you're supposed to be afraid. In fact, the reason we 601 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 24: have eleven million illegal immigrants is because too many people, 602 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 24: for too long, understood quite clearly that there wasn't anything. 603 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: To be afraid of. 604 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 7: But Sheriff Current says that fear is undermining the ability 605 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 7: of law enforcement to do its job. 606 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 19: When the squad car rounds the corner, you'll see people 607 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 19: scram and it's not because they're engaged in criminal activity necessarily. 608 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 19: It's because they have this perception that they're illegal, or 609 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 19: they know somebody that might be undocumented, and they don't 610 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 19: want to have anything to do with the law enforcement. 611 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 7: And what does that do to you, is a law 612 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 7: enforcement officer. 613 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 19: Law enforcement works best when it's engaged with the community. 614 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 19: To have the community not working with you, it's frightening proposition. 615 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 7: Although Current is now an outspoken critic of secure communities, 616 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 7: the Obama administration has made the program mandatory, and the 617 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 7: Lake County Sheriff's Department is still helping to identify and 618 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 7: hold undocumented immigrants for ICE. 619 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 21: One thing that I've experienced is in two thousand and two, 620 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 21: when I started, you did not get a lot of 621 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 21: immigration detainers. Now it appears to me that Immigration is 622 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 21: placing holds on almost everybody that was born outside of 623 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 21: the United States. 624 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 7: This aggressive enforcement by ICE has been driven, according to insiders, 625 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 7: by the agencies need to hit a target number of 626 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 7: deportations now four hundred thousand a year. 627 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: Again under the Aboma administration target with four hundred thousand 628 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: a year. You heard, we are now getting the tank 629 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: request for everybody who's in the country is legally Did 630 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: anybody cry out, anybody demand the resignation of Jay Johnson, 631 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: anybody refer to President Obama as a fascist, as a Nazi. 632 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: It's not like this wasn't known. It's that they didn't 633 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: care because it was their guy in the Oval Office, 634 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: their guy who was doing Obamacare. It was their guy. 635 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 1: Back to the documentary. 636 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 20: Because the number four hundred thousand was what was agreed upon. 637 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 20: What's happened is you pick up whatever you can, so 638 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 20: the low hanging fruit, the high hanging f and all 639 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 20: the fruit that's in between, you would pick up whatever 640 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 20: you could and take your collateral apprehensions, which would be 641 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 20: the other illegals that may be present when you're arresting 642 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 20: the fugitive and bring them into custody as well. To 643 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 20: get the numbers moved up. 644 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 7: The pressure to move the numbers up was evident in 645 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 7: an internal ICE memo last year. ICE was at risk 646 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 7: of falling well under the agency's goal of four hundred 647 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 7: thousand deportations. The memo says, in particular, it highlighted the 648 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 7: shortfall of non criminal removals. So basically, Washington is setting 649 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 7: some numbers, and on the ground, if you're not meeting 650 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 7: those numbers, then you're being judged by not meeting those numbers. 651 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 20: If you're you're being judged or you're being summoned to Washington, 652 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 20: you know you'll get this be in my office tomorrow morning. 653 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: It's so kind of a thing. 654 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 7: While ICE tries to hit its numbers, the results show 655 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 7: up in the Miami courtroom of Immigration Judge Denise slavin. 656 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,720 Speaker 23: Or seeing more and more people who are just having 657 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 23: some sort of contact with the law enforcement community. Where 658 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 23: the individuals who are being picked up were not the 659 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 23: target of the law enforcement operation at all. They were 660 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 23: a witness to a crime, a victim of crime that 661 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 23: could happen because they had a flat tire on the 662 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 23: side of the road and the state police stopped. So 663 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 23: I think that they're going after people if they're easy 664 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 23: to if they're. 665 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 25: Handed to them. 666 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 23: Probably is the best way to put it. That if 667 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 23: the state police or local police run across someone who 668 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 23: is unauthorized and call the department at the ice, they're 669 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 23: not going to say no, we're not going to take 670 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 23: that person. They're going to come and pick them up 671 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 23: and put them at detention. That that happens more now 672 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 23: than it used to. 673 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 7: At the White House. President Obama's top advisor on immigration 674 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 7: is Cecilia Munos. Even the supporters of the president, the 675 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 7: Illinois governor have said secure communities is doing more damage, 676 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 7: and in fact, there's collateral damage of mothers being separated 677 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 7: from their children, of fathers being separated from their children. 678 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 7: Is this collateral damage that this administration is prepared to accept. 679 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 2: Well. 680 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 8: As a result of the concerns raised by the governor 681 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 8: of Illinois, the governor Massachusetts, and others, DHS made adjustments 682 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 8: in how it's implementing the policy. So the feedback from 683 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 8: the community has been important in shaping DHS's work. But 684 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 8: at the end of the day, when you have a 685 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,399 Speaker 8: community of ten million, eleven million people living and working 686 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 8: in the United States illegally, some of these things are 687 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 8: going to happen. Even if the law is executed with perfection, 688 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 8: there will be parents separated from their children. We don't 689 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 8: have to like it, but it is a result of 690 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 8: having a broken system of laws, and the answer to 691 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 8: that problem is reforming the law. 692 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 1: So here she says, when you have eleven million illegal 693 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: aliens in the country, this is going to happen. It's 694 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: going to happen. And this is an administration that did 695 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: not inherit four years of open borders in our south, 696 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,919 Speaker 1: ten twelve, fifteen million. We don't even know how many 697 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: illegal aliens came into the country by design under Joe Biden. 698 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: Obama wasn't dealing with that. Still, he deported more people 699 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 1: over the course of his eight years than Trump passed 700 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: right now, and even if Trump continues at the pace 701 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: he's at right now, he will not surpass Obama's record. 702 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: There's no way you can deport three million people unless 703 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: a lot of them were not quote the worst of 704 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 1: the worst. Nobody gave a damn. There were some activists 705 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: who cared, Luis Gutieri's who cared, but nobody called President 706 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: Trump the president Obama a Nazi, a fascist, a dictator. 707 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: And don't tell me there weren't ice and Border patrol 708 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:52,760 Speaker 1: peaceplant in the streets. There were pulled over for making 709 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 1: it an illegal lane change. She gets deported. Nobody cared. 710 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: And again, this is administration Trump that has to deal 711 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: with an administration he inherited open borders. As President Trump 712 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: has famously said, murderers, rapists, jails are being emptied out 713 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: mental patience. This is what the man inherited. Now, I 714 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 1: want to know where all these people were during the 715 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: eight years of Obama when he deported an average of 716 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand illegal aliens per year, not all of 717 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: whom will quote the worst of the worst. Where were you? 718 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: Why did you say something then? If you're so concerned now, 719 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: And this is not the only double standard, We're also 720 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: going to talk about the way Trump is being filified 721 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: by the Democrats because of what he's done in Venezuela. 722 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: I want to remind you of what was done under 723 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: Barack Obama. What was done to Joe Biden? Did they 724 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: invoke the War Powers Act that Trump is supposedly violated. 725 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s eight GE Triple eight 726 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 1: nine seven one seven two four three. I'm Larry Elder. 727 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 26: Trump and the Republicans lavish Ice with seventy five billion dollars. 728 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 26: That is more than their annual budget for seven years. 729 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 26: And maybe that is why Ice is handing out fifty 730 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 26: thousand dollars recruiting bonuses now in this budget, Trump and 731 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 26: the Republicans want to reward Ice with an additional ten 732 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 26: billion dollars in funding. That's right, Donald Trump wants us 733 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 26: to write another check, hand it over to Ice, and 734 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 26: let them keep rolling in the dough. But here is 735 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 26: my view. I am a no, I am a hell no. 736 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 26: We cannot give one more penny to Trump's Ice while 737 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 26: its masked, poorly trained agents terrorize people all across this country. 738 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 26: It is time for the United States Senate to step 739 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 26: up and stop ICE's violence. We must stand united, and 740 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 26: we must fight back, and we must do it now. 741 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,280 Speaker 1: That A Senator Elizabeth Warren, Massachusetts, Triple eight nine seventy 742 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: one s A GE Triple eight ninety seven one seven 743 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: two four three. I am Larry Elder. We are Salem 744 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: News Channel. Michael is in Los Angeles. Michael, you're on 745 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 1: the Larry Olda Show. 746 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 25: Hiyuarry, Uh yeah, exactly. Any globate chart is so right. 747 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 25: We do have to defund ICE. They can't be wearing masks. 748 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 25: They can't be infringing on our rights. They can't be 749 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 25: going after people that are you know, tis off with them, 750 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 25: essentially protesters, people thirty their First Amendment rights. And this 751 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 25: is why people were pissed off at Ice. Obama did 752 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 25: it peacefully. The current Ice with the mask in the 753 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 25: street shooting Renee guide. 754 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, why do you why do you suppose Michael? 755 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 1: Why do you suppose Michael? Why do you suppose Michael? Obama, 756 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: as you put it, did it peacefully? 757 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 25: Well, you know you've overstayed your visa. It's time to leave. 758 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 25: Report to this office. 759 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: And no, no, no, no, that's that's not why. The 760 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: reason Obama was able to do it peacefully, And that's 761 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: what this documentary showed. That's why I played it is 762 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 1: because under the Secure Communities Act, which Obama was following, state, 763 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 1: local and federal officials cooperated together gave them access to prisons, 764 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: and that's why they were able to deport them. Also, 765 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: there wasn't something called ods Obama derangement syndrome, and there 766 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: wasn't something called Ice Watch, all of which, in my opinion, 767 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: have conspired to make the dangerous journey of getting people 768 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: off the streets necessary. They wouldn't have to get him 769 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 1: off the streets. And right now the Bordezar has met 770 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: with the Age of Minnesota, met with the Mayor of Minneapolis, 771 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: and met with the Governor of Minnesota, all of which 772 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: now say that we're going to give Ice access to 773 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: the jails and honor the detainer requests, which were not 774 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: honored before that. So this stuff is gonna go away, 775 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: I really hope. 776 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 25: So, Larry, And there was Obama derangement syndrome. It's you know, 777 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 25: Obama's blackness accelerated maga's ascendants. 778 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: Oh, mom, Obama's blackness accelerated magasins. What are you talking about, Michael? 779 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: What does that even mean? What does that even mean? 780 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 25: The movement? 781 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh, you know, start at the birth movement. My friend 782 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: Trump did no, no, no, Trump did not Hillary Clint 783 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: It bullshit. 784 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 25: I'm sorry, I'm. 785 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry. You cursed I'm gonna have to cut 786 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: you off. I don't know why people like you don't 787 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: understand this. There is a book called Game Change, written 788 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 1: by two Dimmocrats, John Heilman and Michael Halprin. Holman is 789 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: a regular pundit on Morning Joe and Halprin used to 790 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: be on Morning Joe. Now he is an independent guy 791 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: who's got a podcast. He wrote a book called Game 792 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: Change and talked about the Clinton campaign, led largely by 793 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: Sidney Blumenthal is the one who said that Obama was 794 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: not from here and from Africa. They went to the 795 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: McClatchy newspapers and told him that, and McClatchy put on 796 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: some people to investigate. It turned out it wasn't true, 797 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: but with a Clinton campaign that did it. Can you 798 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: find that clip, mister McConnell where John Heilman was discussing 799 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: this with Joe Scarborough and the former congressman from Tennessee 800 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 1: was unaware. Democrat was unaware of this. He's now a 801 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 1: one of the five people on the Five and love 802 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: that's not true. It wasn't true. And Morning Joe turned 803 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: to John Hollman and said, would you please uh? You 804 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: wrote about this, can you uh and he confirmed that 805 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: it was the Obama administration that started it. And my 806 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: caller just said, that's bs because you don't know, you're 807 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: ill informed. Harold Ford is the guy I'm talking about. 808 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 1: He was another panelist on the on the show, and 809 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: when it was brought up that hillar redid it, he said, 810 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: that's just not true, same as you said, he didn't know. 811 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 1: Ms McConnell. Have you found it? All right, we'll play 812 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: that for you in just a second, So please don't 813 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 1: go away. Bill is in Philadelphia. Bill, you're in the 814 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: lary of this show. 815 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,800 Speaker 27: Pittsburgh. 816 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh. Somebody misspelled Pittsburgh and wrote in Philadelphia. 817 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 27: Oh, they part spelled it. That's my last name. No, hey, 818 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 27: you're so spot on guy and listening. Why you wait 819 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 27: that fella? And he it's not his fault. It's the 820 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 27: media's think about this. They only watch one news. Well, 821 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 27: the one news is fourteen you know, the Alpha bet monopoly. 822 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 27: They own it all. You gotta you know, dig in. Honestly, 823 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 27: that wasn't my point, though. You're very knowledgeable, and we 824 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 27: when I say wead there's a little group of retired here. 825 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 27: We thought somewhere down the line it's been back a 826 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 27: minute ago. Wasn't there some law pass for the SEC 827 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 27: wise or regulation equal time on a story? That's our 828 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 27: question mainly. 829 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're there. You know, there's there's an FEC 830 00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: regulation requiring equal time, and under the Reagan administration he 831 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: stopped following it and said it wasn't applicable. And that's 832 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,919 Speaker 1: what gave the rise of conservative talk because before under 833 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: the equal time provision, it was interpreted that when you 834 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: have a left wing person on your station, you need 835 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,240 Speaker 1: to have a right wing person on your station for balance. 836 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 1: Reagan said, this is nonsense. The market sho to dictate 837 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: the kind of programming, for example, radio stations have, and 838 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: that gave the rise to conservative radio. They tried to 839 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: do liberal radio. There was a liberal radio network, and 840 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 1: nobody watched because I think it was boring. Plus, if 841 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: you want liberal news, all you have to do is 842 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: cut on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and you'll get it. 843 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 1: But I want to address the gentleman saying that Obama's 844 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: rise gave the rise to Donald Trump because Obama was black, 845 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: and therefore Trump challenged whether or not Obama was from 846 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 1: wasn't even born here, and that was the racism that 847 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, are you serious, And the way that 848 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 1: Hillary got away with raising the issue of whether Obama 849 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: was from Africa and nobody thinks she's involved in it. 850 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: I even heard Hillary many times say that it's a racist, 851 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 1: racist lie that Obama is not from here. Her campaign 852 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: started it that the guy named James Asher from McClatchy. 853 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 1: She said, Sidney Blumenthal, who's one of Hillary's hatchet men, 854 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,319 Speaker 1: went to him until Obama is not from America, He's 855 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: from Africa. And they tracked it down and found it 856 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: was nothing to it. James Asher went public and said 857 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: that now look it up, my friend, Google it, my friend. 858 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: We're trying to find the clip. Hopefully we'll find it 859 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: in a few minutes, and then you can call up 860 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: and say, Larry, respectfully, have to apologize. If that's your 861 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: exhibit A for President Trump's racism, then point the finger 862 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 1: at Hillary, not a Trump. Triple eight ninety seven one 863 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: s A G E trip late nine seven one seven 864 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: two four to three. I am Larry Older, do not 865 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: leave town? 866 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 28: Walk well, no, if you be, and I'm walking, walk 867 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 28: get up one stream yeah. 868 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s A G E triple 869 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 1: eight nine seven, one seven two four to three. I 870 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: am Larry Elder. We are Salem News Channel. We got 871 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: a little loft track there because the caller called up 872 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: and said Obama's election because of Trump's racism inspired the 873 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: Trump presidency is essentially what made Trump become president because 874 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: of the reaction to the racism of having a black 875 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: person Obama elected president. And I asked for what is evidence. 876 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: He said, well, Trump started the birther rumor. There's a 877 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: guy named James Asher, a s H. E r. Former 878 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: McClatchy Washington Bureau chief. And when this issue came up, 879 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: he tweeted Sidney Blumenthal, the Hillary hatchetman, more on him 880 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: in a second told me in person Obama was born 881 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: in Kenya. Close quote. That's what he tweeted. And Sidney 882 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: Blumenthal so angered Obama that when Obama got elected president 883 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: and he made Hillary Secretary of State, she wanted to 884 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 1: bring Sidney Blumenthal along with her, and Obama said, hell no, 885 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: this is the guy that started the rumor that I 886 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: was not from America. He will not be part of 887 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: the administration. So Hillary still had him as an informal adviser, 888 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: but she couldn't put him on the payroll. And then 889 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: there's a book called Game Changes I mentioned, co written 890 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 1: by John Holman and Mark Halprin. I think, I said 891 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: Michael Mark Halprin. And on twenty fifteen and twenty fifteen 892 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: on the MSNB Hall Morning Show, he said it was 893 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 1: a Hillary Clinton's twenty eighteen that started questioning obamas birth certificate, 894 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 1: and for somehow, some reason, there's a no flies on 895 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 1: over Hillary on this issue, to the point where she has, 896 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 1: with a straight face, referred to the rumor as a 897 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: racist lie, even though it was her campaign that started. 898 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: We found the audio of it. We're trying to find 899 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: some video to play it for you because we're a 900 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 1: TV and a radio show. But mister mcconnor, let me 901 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: know when it's radio. Okay, triple eight nine seven one 902 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 1: sage triple eight nine seven one seven two four three. 903 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: The reason this is important is because there's something called 904 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome, and a lot of it is because 905 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 1: of stuff Trump never said. For example, one more time, 906 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: he never said they were good and bad Nazis on 907 00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,439 Speaker 1: both sides. He said, I'm not talking about the white 908 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,439 Speaker 1: Nationals and the neo Nazis because they should be condemned totally. 909 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: That's forbade on what he said. Yet, Joe Biden started 910 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 1: his twenty tween campaign. Its first video talked about Charlottesville 911 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: and repeated the lie that the President was referring to 912 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: good Nazis and bad Nazis when he was referring to 913 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 1: there were good and bad people on both sides of 914 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 1: the issue about whether or not they should be a 915 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Confederate monument in public square. And again, the number one 916 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: reason that people in twenty sixteen before the election, likely 917 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: voters gave for not liking Donald Trump is that he 918 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: quote mocked it is able to report it. He did 919 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 1: no such thing. He mocked the reporter, but didn't mock 920 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: the reporter so called disability. He mocked the report's retreat 921 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: from the story. The reporter in questionnaire even said he 922 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 1: mocked me. And that gesture that Trump uses, he's used 923 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 1: it for himself. He used it for an able bodied general. 924 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 1: As I mentioned before, there's a website called Catholics for 925 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: the number four Trump showing Trump using that gesture to 926 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: mock and scl off to mock other people. And what 927 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: happened is Trump said that there were people in New 928 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Jersey that were cheering the fall the towers, and because 929 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: everything Trump says gets fact checked, they couldn't find it. 930 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 1: For a couple of days, Trump produced this article written 931 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: by a guy named Serge Kovalski, and when people ask 932 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Kavalski about it, he began retreating from the article. That's 933 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: what Trump was mocking, not his so called disability. Is 934 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: it ready, Miss McConnell, Okay, it's almost ready. Ronnie is 935 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 1: in Santa Barbara, California. Ronnie in the Larry Ola Show. 936 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing well, wait a. 937 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 15: Long time since I've spoken with you. Hey, Well, I 938 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 15: like to make the way to educate everybody and start 939 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 15: doing reruns even and start at the Darien Gap where 940 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 15: the migration and came, and follow the trail all the 941 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 15: way through Mexico where the cartels put race wristbands on 942 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 15: people and they put tattoos on the ladies. They'd have 943 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 15: a sex on the ladies at w on the men 944 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 15: for work, and they oh on the children for organ 945 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 15: donate And then you get interviewed all the way to 946 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 15: the ASCID border, and then it shows them getting back 947 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 15: to these facilities that the nngos at and then put 948 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 15: on more thanks and brought to the airports and they 949 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 15: flew all the night flights and that's why there was 950 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 15: a shortage of flights there for a while. 951 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: And I remember Bartha Ratis of ABC interviewing somebody crossing 952 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: the border after Biden got elected and said, would you 953 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 1: have done this if President Trump had been real? 954 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 27: Like? 955 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 1: He said, absolutely not, absolutely not. Biden has given us permissial. 956 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 1: We're ready with that clip of John Holman confirming that 957 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 1: it was Hillary who started the issue of whether or 958 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 1: not Barack Obama was in fact born here. I'm Lary Lover. 959 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 29: Would you have tried to do this when Donald Trump 960 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 29: was president? Definitely? Not definitely. We had the chance, you know, 961 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 29: the the same with violand as that is going on today, 962 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,959 Speaker 29: was there or less here? We used to watch the 963 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 29: the news and I definitely will wanna do this. 964 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 26: So did you come here because Joe Biden was elected president? 965 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 29: Basically? Basically, Uh, the main thing was the violence of 966 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 29: my guntry And the second thing I think was. 967 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden Triple eight Night seven one sa ge Triple eight, 968 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Knight seven one seven two four to three. I am 969 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: Larrey Elder. We are still on the news. Channel. Okay, 970 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: here is John Heilman on the Morning Joe Show, confirming 971 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: that it was a Hillary Clinton campaign that started the 972 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,440 Speaker 1: rumor that Obama was not from here, that it was 973 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 1: from Africa. 974 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 30: For Hillary Clinton to come out and criticize anybody for 975 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 30: spreading the rumors about Barack Obama when it all started 976 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 30: in sixteen minutes, when it all started with her and 977 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 30: her campaign passing things around in the Democratic primary, rich now. 978 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 27: Listen, he says, he is. 979 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 30: The Republicans are wrong for doing what they're doing. It started, 980 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 30: This started with Hillary Clinton, and it was spread by 981 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 30: the Clinton team. We're just telling you back in two 982 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 30: thousand and eight, I really, I don't know that is 983 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 30: the tyld. 984 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't bok Nika. 985 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 31: You can't tell me to stop when you were when 986 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 31: the two of you are making comments mcnaim, if you 987 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 31: have a if there's a basis, an actual evidentiary basis 988 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 31: for what you're saying, and I would agree with what 989 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 31: what about that. 990 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 30: The ones that spread it in two thousand and eight, 991 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 30: that spread what in two thousand and eight that Barack. 992 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 32: Obama, Barack Obama may not be cool? 993 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 31: We should ask kyleon in this question because it's not 994 01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 31: the officially, I don't I don't call that, but if 995 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 31: you're telling it that was the case, I just don't. 996 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 4: Work was the case. 997 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 15: It was the case. 998 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, John Hilman. 999 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 1: And didn't you go on sixtay minutes and not actually 1000 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 1: say no, what he says he is that I'm affirming. 1001 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 12: I'm affirming. 1002 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 9: I'm affirming with scarboroughs and skiing again. 1003 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 1: Clinton campaign spreading rumors Obama's not from here, from Africa. 1004 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: Obama's not a Christian, He's a Muslim, James Ashram McClatchy 1005 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: newspaper said. Sydney Bloomenthal came to me and told me 1006 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 1: that quote Obama is from Africa. Close quote. Look it up. 1007 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 1: But the media doesn't care, ignores it. And I'm not 1008 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: saying Trump didn't take it to another level. He did, 1009 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 1: and I criticized it. Then I said there was no 1010 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: evidence that Obama was not from here. I thought it 1011 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: was a waste of time, and ultimately Trump said I 1012 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,959 Speaker 1: was wrong. But it was Hillary's campaign that started it. Now, 1013 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about the grilling between Marco Rubio and Tammy 1014 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,439 Speaker 1: Duckworth over Trump's supposed ignoring of the War Powers Act 1015 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: regarding his use of the military against Venezuela. This is 1016 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: from the Los Angeles Times. President Obama, who hoped to 1017 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 1: sow peace, instead led the nation in war. This is 1018 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 1: just a few days before he left office in January. 1019 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm holding Obama leaves a very different legacy as he 1020 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: prepares to hand off commander in chief responsibilities to Donald Trump. 1021 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 1: Military forces have been at war for all eight years 1022 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: under Obama's tenure. He launched air strikes for military raids 1023 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 1: in at least seven countries Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan. 1024 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 1: He vastly expanded the role of elite commando units in 1025 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: the use of new technology, including armed drones and cyber weapons. 1026 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 1: The administration built secret drone basis and other facilities in Africa, 1027 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and added troops and warships in 1028 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,440 Speaker 1: Western Pacific. He moved troops and equipment to Eastern Europe 1029 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: to counter a resurgent Russia approved that NATO air campaign 1030 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 1: in Libya, initially aimed at preventing a massacre of civilians 1031 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 1: by strongman Walmarkadaffi. Obama said, quote, we all know in 1032 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,480 Speaker 1: some form this violent extremism will be with us for 1033 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: years justifying why he was using the military force. Also 1034 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 1: there's this he mostly relies, as the La Times on 1035 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 1: predators and other increasingly sophisticated drone aircraft. He wrestled with 1036 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 1: the growing reliance on drones and the use of them 1037 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 1: to carry out targeted killings. He even ordered the killing 1038 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: of a US citizen, again volding La Times. US drones 1039 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 1: also killed at least six other Americans and air strikes 1040 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 1: aimed at militants. In three years, up to one hundred 1041 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 1: and sixty four civilians had been killed in four hundred 1042 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,559 Speaker 1: and seventy three airstrikes. Independence groups, however, put the death 1043 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: hold much higher, saying hundreds of civilians were killed outside 1044 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 1: the war zones and many hundreds more inside them. That's 1045 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:31,640 Speaker 1: the La Times. And this is a publication called Protect Democracy, 1046 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:37,400 Speaker 1: which is a supposedly non partisan organization that's concerned about 1047 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 1: the use of the military and the failure to apply 1048 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 1: the so called War Powers Act. This is under Biden. 1049 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Earlier today we filed our freedom of information at requests 1050 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 1: with the Biden administration to release the legal justification for 1051 01:08:52,520 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 1: ongoing military action in Yemen. Said that as Senator Biden 1052 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 1: wanted to use the War Powers Act. Yet quote once 1053 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 1: he became president, he shifted. Biden expressed the view that 1054 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 1: presidents have inherent authority to direct military operations where those 1055 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 1: operations serve important US interest and are of limited nature, 1056 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: scope and duration. That's a Biden quote. This organization says 1057 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: the Biden deministration also twice invoked emergency powers to circumvent 1058 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Congress so he could provide arms to Israel. And now 1059 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 1: the Biden administration, it says, is escalating its military strikes 1060 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 1: and yeomen without Congression authorization and are skirting the guidelines 1061 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: imposed by the War Powers Resolution. In the quote again, 1062 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 1: one is from the La Times. The other one is 1063 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 1: from an organization called Protect Democracy, which calls itself a 1064 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,639 Speaker 1: non partisan group interested in make suing that the president 1065 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,519 Speaker 1: does not exceed his powers and that he adheres to 1066 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: the so called War Powers Resolution. I'll keep that in 1067 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 1: mind when we come back and I play you the 1068 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:16,840 Speaker 1: exchange between Tammy Duckworth of Illinois and Marc Arrubio over 1069 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:22,719 Speaker 1: the failure she says of Donald Trump to abide by 1070 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: the War Powers Act, and he's using the quote notorious 1071 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:33,080 Speaker 1: Enemies and Aliens Act. Close quote but somehow, some way, 1072 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,559 Speaker 1: no fly zone over Joe Biden, somehow, some way, no 1073 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 1: fly zone over Barack Obama cause he was their guy. 1074 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,759 Speaker 1: Now let me tell you about Brian from Alabama. He says, 1075 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 1: after taking relief Factor for just three weeks, at least 1076 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 1: ninety percent of my pain is gone. My pain had 1077 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 1: started to limit me at working at home, and now 1078 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,759 Speaker 1: I'm amazed at the relief I've gotten. These are Brian's 1079 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: own words, and they speak volumes about what Relief Factor 1080 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 1: can do. 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And 1099 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 32: then he told me it was successful in Venezuela. 1100 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 11: He talked about Venezuela. 1101 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 15: He did, he did. 1102 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 32: I'm not sure what gave him the indication that, at 1103 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 32: this point in time, what's happening to my state that 1104 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 32: I'm interested in Venezuela, but he told me how well 1105 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 32: that went. Which really was strange to me, was he 1106 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,640 Speaker 32: saw an operation in Venezuela against a foreign nation. In 1107 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,599 Speaker 32: the same context he saw an operation against a US 1108 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 32: state and a US city. 1109 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Triple late ninety seventy one, Sage Triple eight ninet seventy one, 1110 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 1: seven two four to three. Larry Elders Salem News Channel 1111 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 1: that he is Governor Tim Walls of Minnesota. Now this 1112 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:50,880 Speaker 1: is Tammy Duckworth, military vet Democrat from Illinois versus Marco 1113 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,679 Speaker 1: Rubio over the legality of what Trump has done as 1114 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,600 Speaker 1: to Venezuela. I mentioned the questions about the legality of 1115 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,679 Speaker 1: what Obama did as raised by the Los Angeles Times. 1116 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 1: Democracy Project Democracy raised the same questions about Obama about 1117 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Did they face the same kind of virulent criticism? 1118 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,479 Speaker 1: Number twenty two. 1119 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 33: Gentlemen, do I understand that you're yielding to center Duckworth? 1120 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 33: Is that correct? 1121 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:22,160 Speaker 2: Both of you? 1122 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 33: Center van Hull? Are you going to yield to center Duckworth? Okay, 1123 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:27,599 Speaker 33: Center Duckworth. 1124 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 34: I think my colleagues, my daughter has dental surgery, so 1125 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,720 Speaker 34: they're being very kind so I can get her through that. 1126 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,600 Speaker 34: Thank you, missus Sagar. Last March, the President invoked the 1127 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 34: Alien Enemies Act, a notorious wartime law last us for 1128 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 34: Japanese internment. He said that he was responding to the 1129 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 34: Maduro regime supposed invasion or other acts of war against 1130 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 34: the United States. But in recent weeks, you, the Department 1131 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 34: of Justice, and our friends across the Aisle have repeatedly 1132 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 34: said that we are not at war with Venezuela. Sacreary Rubio, 1133 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 34: If that is true and we are not at war 1134 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,200 Speaker 34: with Venezuela, will you advise the President to recind his 1135 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,719 Speaker 34: invocation of the wartime Inlian Enemies Act. 1136 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 35: Well, that was a mechanism to remove people from our 1137 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 35: country that prevents grave dangers. So, for example, we know 1138 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 35: for a fact the train dot Ogua was a very 1139 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,800 Speaker 35: dangerous gang. In fact, I believe I'm not mistaken, I 1140 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 35: may have been the first member of. 1141 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,639 Speaker 6: Congress a wartime act. 1142 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,680 Speaker 34: Mister Secretary, Well, are we currently at war with Venezuela? 1143 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 2: No, we're not in the state of war in Venezuela. 1144 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 6: Okay. 1145 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 34: The Supreme Court has described the Alien Enemies Act as 1146 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 34: a wartime power our Supreme Court, and before now the 1147 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 34: Alien Enemies Act was only invoked during the War of 1148 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 34: eighteen twelve, World War one, world War two, when it 1149 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,920 Speaker 34: was used to intern thousands of innocent civilians. Are you 1150 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,080 Speaker 34: really arguing that the president should be able to wield 1151 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 34: an internment law? 1152 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 35: No, no, no, But we're talking about two separate things here. 1153 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 35: So you're talking about the state of Venezuela or are 1154 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 35: describing the regime. 1155 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,080 Speaker 2: And we're talking about you. But what the president and 1156 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:53,679 Speaker 2: we will. 1157 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,640 Speaker 1: Finish this exchange and this double standard the top of 1158 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,200 Speaker 1: the next hour. Stick around for that. I'm Larry Older. 1159 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 1: We're coming to you from Leaf Factor Studio. Don't forget 1160 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 1: your relief Factor eight hundred four Relief eight hundred the 1161 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,639 Speaker 1: number four relief for leief factor dot Com. That's relief 1162 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,760 Speaker 1: Factor dot Com. 1163 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:13,559 Speaker 36: Larry will be right back, Stay tunede pain. 1164 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go. 1165 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 3: Out. 1166 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,559 Speaker 1: So let's get her teed up. 1167 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 2: Set off to my leaf. 1168 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Sub triple eight nine seven one s A G E 1169 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one seven two four to three 1170 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 1: Larry elders Stale on NewsChannel. Coming up, We're going to 1171 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 1: talk about the impact of the controversy over ice on 1172 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 1: the midterms, the states that have done redistricting on the midterms. 1173 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 1: But first we're talking about the double standard Trump being 1174 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:02,360 Speaker 1: hammered over violating the War Powers Act through the use 1175 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 1: of the military in Venezuela. Article in the La Times 1176 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 1: when right before Obama left office about all the conflicts 1177 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 1: that he engaged in our Times had quote, for the 1178 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,360 Speaker 1: first time in decades, there is at least the potential 1179 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 1: of armed clash with America's largest adversaries, Russia and China. Again, 1180 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 1: this is days before the Trump administration. Two point zero 1181 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:35,000 Speaker 1: took Over talked about how Obama expanded the role of 1182 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:39,799 Speaker 1: elite commando units expanded the use of drones in Yemen, 1183 01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 1: in Somalia, Pakistan, other places. Talked about the civilians that died. 1184 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 1: Were there people yelling and screaming about how Obama was 1185 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,800 Speaker 1: a warmonger, how Obama was ignoring the War War Powers Act. 1186 01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 1: Back to the exchange between Illinois Tammy Duckworth, Senator Democrat 1187 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,880 Speaker 1: and Marco Rubio over the use of the military to 1188 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 1: depose Maduro in Venezuela, the. 1189 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 34: Supreme Court has described the Alien Enemies Act as a 1190 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 34: wartime power. Our Supreme Court and before now the Alien 1191 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,200 Speaker 34: Enemies Act was only invoked during the War of eighteen twelve, 1192 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 34: World War One, World War II, when it was used 1193 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 34: to in turn thousands of innocent civilians. Are you really 1194 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,840 Speaker 34: arguing that the president should be able to wield an 1195 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 34: internment law? 1196 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 35: No, no, no, But we're talking about two separate things here. 1197 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,720 Speaker 35: So you're talking about the state of Venezuela or are 1198 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 35: describing the regime and we're talking about you. 1199 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,560 Speaker 2: But what the president invoked the alien enemies Let me 1200 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:43,120 Speaker 2: be with you. 1201 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,800 Speaker 35: But what President the President was talking about are these 1202 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 35: gangs that have and these narco trafficking groups. 1203 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,479 Speaker 2: That are waging war on the United States. 1204 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 35: There's no doubt these groups have waged war in the 1205 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 35: United States. They have which for example, Trained Dog was 1206 01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 35: not just a criminal gang presence in our street, it 1207 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 35: is a criminal gang responsible directly responsible. 1208 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 34: The Trump administration has acknowledged that the vast majority of 1209 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 34: the men that rounded up and deported to torture under 1210 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:09,639 Speaker 34: this law had no criminal records whatsoever. In dependent over 1211 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:10,519 Speaker 34: seventy five percent. 1212 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,839 Speaker 2: Who do we torture? We haven't tortured anybody. 1213 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,200 Speaker 35: We've arrested people that are members of gangs, and we've 1214 01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,360 Speaker 35: deported MEAs. 1215 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,960 Speaker 34: Have found that many of the men were here legally. 1216 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,559 Speaker 34: If the administration is willing to lie about who it's 1217 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 34: targeting under this law, what protections do totally innocent people 1218 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 34: have against abuse? Again, I want to ask you, will 1219 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,680 Speaker 34: you advise the president to rescind his invocation of the 1220 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,720 Speaker 34: wartime alien and of course not. 1221 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 35: I mean, these are people that are threats of the 1222 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,640 Speaker 35: national security of the United States. But I've described this 1223 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,520 Speaker 35: in hearings in the past, including. 1224 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 6: The So you're saying that we're at war, we are. 1225 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,400 Speaker 35: Absolute when it comes to narco trafficking groups and criminal 1226 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 35: gangs that are targeting the United States for. 1227 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,040 Speaker 2: Criminal We're in a state of war. 1228 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 35: There's no doubt about the fact that we're fronting them 1229 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 35: in a war like lie. 1230 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 6: And do the Geneva convey. 1231 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 35: Their waging war against us and their enemy combatants as 1232 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 35: a result of it. And the fact of the matter 1233 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 35: is that we are confronting these irregular groups. And that's 1234 01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 35: one of the great challenges of the new century in 1235 01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 35: this hemisphere in particular, is that these non state actors 1236 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,599 Speaker 35: who possess state like capabilities in terms of their weaponry, 1237 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,639 Speaker 35: pose a grave danger to the United States. I don't 1238 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,840 Speaker 35: think any American we have cartels opposed a threat with. 1239 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 34: All the other laws of when it comes to warfare. 1240 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,280 Speaker 34: I mean, you're you're you're saying that he can invoke 1241 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 34: this wartime power. 1242 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, you're asking me. 1243 01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,280 Speaker 35: I'm here to discuss foreign policy and what's in the 1244 01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 35: realm of the Department of States. 1245 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,639 Speaker 2: I think your question is a better direct invoke enemies act. 1246 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 34: But I would tell you that the wartime which is 1247 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 34: something that but you're asking for, can be invoked during war. 1248 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 34: You're asking voke during the War of eighteen twelve, World 1249 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,040 Speaker 34: War One, and World War two. You're voting three times 1250 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,160 Speaker 34: and this president is invoking it. 1251 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 35: Okay, you're asking me a question about the domestic application 1252 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,760 Speaker 35: of a law that's best directed in the Department of No, 1253 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 35: because you're asking me something to apply in on something 1254 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 35: that's in the realm of the Department of Justice. In 1255 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 35: terms of its domestic application, I can tell you that 1256 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 35: the United States is most certainly confronting terrorists and criminal 1257 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 35: organizations operating in our hemisphere. 1258 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,799 Speaker 2: The post a grave danger of the United States. 1259 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 35: Anyone who believes the gangs that flood our country with 1260 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 35: or cocaine are not threats to the United States is 1261 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,040 Speaker 35: not living in reality and certainly does not reflect the 1262 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 35: opinion of most Americans. 1263 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,400 Speaker 34: Their president already said that he was ready to put 1264 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:17,920 Speaker 34: American troops in Venezuela again. 1265 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:19,719 Speaker 6: So we're at war right now. 1266 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 34: So if things don't go well with the Chavista, as 1267 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 34: you've empowered, return a military option, putting you in what 1268 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,560 Speaker 34: is your criteria for returning to a military option and 1269 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,320 Speaker 34: putting boots. 1270 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 35: Well, for I don't recall the president saying he's gonna 1271 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:32,759 Speaker 35: put troops in Venezuela. 1272 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 2: Where did he say that? I'm asking you, what are 1273 01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 2: your But that's what you said. I didn't read. 1274 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,600 Speaker 34: The President has already said that he was ready to 1275 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,599 Speaker 34: put American troops in Venezuela. 1276 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:39,720 Speaker 2: No. 1277 01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 35: I think the President said that he retains the right 1278 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,559 Speaker 35: as commander in chief to protect the United States against 1279 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,559 Speaker 35: any imminent threats. Maybe that involves troops, maybe that involves 1280 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 35: the air power. We hope that we don't anticipate that 1281 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:49,680 Speaker 35: being the case in Venezuela. 1282 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,040 Speaker 34: I worry that you are playing fast and loose with 1283 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:53,639 Speaker 34: our nation. 1284 01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 2: Well, I just gave you Cimonia state. 1285 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 6: I just want I just want to conclude by. 1286 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,639 Speaker 35: Yeah, but I just gave you testimony how well things 1287 01:20:58,640 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 35: are moving forward, not as fast. 1288 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,639 Speaker 34: Everybody also said that in six or nine months, if 1289 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 34: things don't go well, you're gonna have to do something else. 1290 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,200 Speaker 34: And the president's already said that he's not routed out 1291 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:06,920 Speaker 34: the military option. 1292 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,559 Speaker 6: And you've also just said that, yes, we are at war. 1293 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:10,639 Speaker 2: The President has for every. 1294 01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 6: For me to ask you. 1295 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,799 Speaker 2: And I gave you a very specific example. 1296 01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,400 Speaker 35: Every president retains the right to defend the United States 1297 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 35: against an imminent threat. 1298 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 2: Yes, if there are Iranian just give you an example. 1299 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,439 Speaker 2: Iranian drones deployed in. 1300 01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,920 Speaker 35: Venezuela that could threaten the United States. We most certainly 1301 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 35: will address that, even if it's located in Venezuela. 1302 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,080 Speaker 2: But we hope we don't get to that point. We 1303 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:31,880 Speaker 2: don't expect to get there. I don't think that we're 1304 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 2: not trending in that direction. That's a fact. 1305 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 34: But that said, you know, and yet another forever war, 1306 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 34: mister secretary, don't need to be in another forever war. 1307 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,439 Speaker 6: And that is the pathway that we are going towards. 1308 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,479 Speaker 2: Let me just say the forever war. If we're dealing 1309 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,439 Speaker 2: with avery option, you're. 1310 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 34: Not going to ask him to to recind his invocation 1311 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,000 Speaker 34: of the Alien Enemies Act that puts Americans in jeopardy. 1312 01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,280 Speaker 34: And let me just say something about the president's recent 1313 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,679 Speaker 34: comments about name allies. 1314 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,560 Speaker 6: When I served in Iraq. 1315 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,240 Speaker 34: There were Polish forces there with us, there were British 1316 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:06,120 Speaker 34: forces there with us. 1317 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:07,720 Speaker 6: There were Spanish forces there with US. 1318 01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:12,280 Speaker 34: I personally landed in Elsia, Espana, which came under direct 1319 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 34: attacked by insurgents Polish troops who. 1320 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 6: Have worked with the Illinois military. 1321 01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Okay, the rest of the exchange had to do with 1322 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,599 Speaker 1: whether or not President Trump was respecting NATO and Marco 1323 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 1: Rubio says that President of Trump does respect NATO, but 1324 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,360 Speaker 1: I want to get back to the attack on Trump 1325 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 1: for using military regarding Venezuela. Again back of the La Times. 1326 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,679 Speaker 1: This is a few days before Obama left office. Quote. 1327 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 1: He launched air strikes or military raids in at least 1328 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:51,800 Speaker 1: seven countries Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan. Quote. 1329 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 1: He vastly expanded the role of elite commando units and 1330 01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,959 Speaker 1: the use of new technology, including armed drones and cyber weapons. 1331 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,720 Speaker 1: And they quote somebody named Jonathan Altman, who's a Middle East 1332 01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 1: specialist at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. It's 1333 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,920 Speaker 1: a think tank in DC. Quote the whole concept of 1334 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:16,840 Speaker 1: war has changed under Obama. Close quote back of the 1335 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:17,439 Speaker 1: early Times. 1336 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:17,760 Speaker 14: Quote. 1337 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,600 Speaker 1: The administration built secret drone bases and other facilities in 1338 01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 1: Africa and the Middle East, added troops and warships in 1339 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,360 Speaker 1: the Western Pacific. It also moved troops and equipment to 1340 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,960 Speaker 1: Eastern Europe to counter a resurgent Russia. End of quote. 1341 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 1: It says he approved a NATO air campaign in Libya 1342 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:41,799 Speaker 1: aimed at preventing massacres of civilians by strongman walmart Kadaffi. 1343 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,639 Speaker 1: In a speech December six at Madill Air Force Base 1344 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,240 Speaker 1: in Florida, Obama all but conceded he was unable to 1345 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,680 Speaker 1: get America out of foreign wars large and small that 1346 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 1: grew out of the September eleventh attacks. And then they 1347 01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 1: quote Obama quote, we know that in some form, this 1348 01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,840 Speaker 1: violent extremism will be with us for years to come. 1349 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,479 Speaker 1: End of quote. Back of the early times he relied 1350 01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:16,200 Speaker 1: on predators, another increasingly sophisticated drone aircraft, first to conduct 1351 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,160 Speaker 1: aerial surveillance and then to launch deadly held fire missiles. 1352 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,719 Speaker 1: He wrestled with the growing reliance on drones, even ordered 1353 01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 1: the U. S killing the killing of a U. S citizen. 1354 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,639 Speaker 1: His drones killed at least six other Americans and attacks 1355 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,000 Speaker 1: aimed at militants. This suggests the weapons were not as 1356 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:39,640 Speaker 1: precise or the intail as reliable as the Obama administration 1357 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,680 Speaker 1: had claimed. And then he talked about the number of 1358 01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:50,960 Speaker 1: civilians who were killed. Did people suggest that Obama was 1359 01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 1: breaking the law, was stumbing his nose at Congress? Some did? 1360 01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,760 Speaker 1: But did the media pile on him the way they've 1361 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:04,160 Speaker 1: done because of Venezuela? Of course, not just sa ays 1362 01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:08,679 Speaker 1: the media did not pile on when Obama deported twice 1363 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,800 Speaker 1: as many people as has President Trump, including from the interior. 1364 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 1: You hear people say over and over again, well he 1365 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:16,719 Speaker 1: just did it on the board, and no he didn't. 1366 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,639 Speaker 1: That front Line piece showed an operation in Obama's home 1367 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 1: state of Illinois on the streets, picked up a woman 1368 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:30,519 Speaker 1: who made an illegal lane change, had no prior criminal record, 1369 01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:38,679 Speaker 1: and she was deported. The entire documentary fifty three minutes long. 1370 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:43,719 Speaker 1: You can see it on YouTube. It's called Lost in Detention. 1371 01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,559 Speaker 1: Frontline documentary fifty three minutes. 1372 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:50,360 Speaker 2: Where were the. 1373 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:55,599 Speaker 1: Pitchforks coming up? Let's talk about the midterms? Triple eight 1374 01:25:55,680 --> 01:26:01,920 Speaker 1: nine seventy one, Sage on larialed Triple eight nine seven 1375 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,160 Speaker 1: one Sage Triple eight nine seven one seven two or three. 1376 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:10,519 Speaker 1: I am Larry Elder. We are Salem News Channel. My 1377 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,679 Speaker 1: guest is an expert on a number of policy issues, 1378 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 1: including elections, First Amendment, immigration, executive authority, rule of law, 1379 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,800 Speaker 1: government reform. He is a Senior Fellow with Advancing American Freedom. 1380 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,680 Speaker 1: Please welcome back to the program, Hans Vaughn s Pokowski. 1381 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,200 Speaker 1: Hans was always thank you very much for taking a 1382 01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:31,080 Speaker 1: time I appreciate it. 1383 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,880 Speaker 12: Sure happy to be talking to you, Hans. 1384 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,519 Speaker 1: Before you came on, we've been spending a couple of 1385 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:41,599 Speaker 1: hours talking about the double standard Trump versus Obama versus Biden. 1386 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,679 Speaker 1: Under Obama, as you know, they deported around three million people. 1387 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,760 Speaker 1: They were using the Secure Communities Act. The deported people 1388 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 1: from the interior, contrary to the lie that it was 1389 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,640 Speaker 1: only on the on the border, And there was controversy 1390 01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,839 Speaker 1: on the part of some Democrats, but by and large, 1391 01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,000 Speaker 1: no pitchforks, no people in the streets, because the local, 1392 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,360 Speaker 1: the FEDS, and the state were pretty much cooperating with Obama, 1393 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:04,280 Speaker 1: at least at that time. 1394 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:11,599 Speaker 12: Right, It's really different today, and I think it's been 1395 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 12: partially because Democrats have decided that anything that Trump is doing, 1396 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 12: such as in trying to enforce federal immigration law, they're 1397 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,640 Speaker 12: going to be against. But I got to tell you, 1398 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,880 Speaker 12: I also think that they are scared of the try 1399 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,479 Speaker 12: to clean up of, for example, voter registration rules that 1400 01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,479 Speaker 12: the administration is trying to engage in, particularly trying to 1401 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,479 Speaker 12: find aliens who are on the rolls. And if you 1402 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,840 Speaker 12: want a key giveaway on this, all you have to 1403 01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 12: do is look at Virginia where Democrats have just taken 1404 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,840 Speaker 12: over the state legislature, and one of the Democrats just 1405 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:57,160 Speaker 12: dropped a bill to do what to bar ice agents 1406 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:02,720 Speaker 12: from polling places in the state. Now, why would. 1407 01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 1: You do that, because because it's unlawful for an illegal 1408 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,160 Speaker 1: alien to vote. So why would you do that. 1409 01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,800 Speaker 12: They're voting right, right, why would they do that? Well, 1410 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 12: you'll recall there the last year, prior to the election, UH, 1411 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 12: Virginia announced that in the last decade or so, it 1412 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:27,639 Speaker 12: had removed something like eleven thousand aliens from the voter roles. 1413 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:33,840 Speaker 12: And what happened The Biden Justice Department sued Virginia for 1414 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,360 Speaker 12: its latest batch of aliens had removed instead. Oh, you 1415 01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:42,120 Speaker 12: can't do that. You're violenting federal law by removing these aliens. 1416 01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:46,800 Speaker 12: That tells you that they want aliens registering, They want 1417 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 12: them voting because they believe those voters will support them 1418 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,920 Speaker 12: and help them retain power or gain. 1419 01:28:54,880 --> 01:29:02,160 Speaker 1: Power, Hans. Polls are split over what isawing on immigration. 1420 01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,360 Speaker 1: Appears to be half the country says there it's gone 1421 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,200 Speaker 1: too far. Half the country says it's about right or 1422 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,680 Speaker 1: even not far enough. What is your take on that? 1423 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,680 Speaker 12: Well, I think that is correct. That polling. I think 1424 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,800 Speaker 12: that reflects what people believe about this. But remember that 1425 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:24,320 Speaker 12: also look that polling isn't much different than the election 1426 01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:28,720 Speaker 12: results we had. Yeah, Trump won the election. If you 1427 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 12: look at the percentage of people who are supporting him 1428 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:38,439 Speaker 12: versus Kabala Harris, frankly, it's very close to the support 1429 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 12: and non support for immigration enforcement. It's very close. And 1430 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,880 Speaker 12: remember one of the biggest reasons that he won was 1431 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,479 Speaker 12: because he said, well, I'm going to enforce our federal 1432 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:55,320 Speaker 12: immigration laws and reverse the open border policy of Joe Biden. 1433 01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,200 Speaker 12: So I'm not surprised by that. 1434 01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,640 Speaker 1: Tom Homan just that was in Minnesota. As you know, 1435 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,160 Speaker 1: Hans met with the attorney general, met with the mayor, 1436 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,680 Speaker 1: and at least had a conversation with the governor. And 1437 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,360 Speaker 1: Homan now says that the Minnesota officials are going to 1438 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,160 Speaker 1: allow ice to go to the jails and prisons and 1439 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,040 Speaker 1: they will honor ICE detainers. Do you think this will 1440 01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,840 Speaker 1: make the protests and the streets go away? 1441 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,639 Speaker 12: Well, it's gonna make it a lot harder for them 1442 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:22,040 Speaker 12: to do it. 1443 01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:22,280 Speaker 36: Now. 1444 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,040 Speaker 12: They may have promised to do that, but I'll believe 1445 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,679 Speaker 12: it when it actually happens. But obviously that's the way 1446 01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:34,840 Speaker 12: it should be done, because then there's no dangers of 1447 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:39,080 Speaker 12: violence when they're picking up illegal aliens because if they're 1448 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,599 Speaker 12: in jail, if they're in prison, they know that they're 1449 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,639 Speaker 12: not going to have weapons or anything like that. If 1450 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 12: this had been happening since the beginning of the Trump administration, 1451 01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 12: you would not have had any of the kind of 1452 01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,800 Speaker 12: terrible violence we've had in Minnesota. And all you have 1453 01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:02,799 Speaker 12: to do is contrast Minnesota with other states like Florida 1454 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:07,760 Speaker 12: and Texas, where this kind of bob violence has not occurred, 1455 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,720 Speaker 12: and when it had started to happen, it's been immediately 1456 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:16,400 Speaker 12: stopped because state and local officials were actually cooperating with ICE. 1457 01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 12: That's the way it should be done. 1458 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,960 Speaker 1: Hand the Democrats are threatening to shut down the government 1459 01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,240 Speaker 1: over the issue of funding of ICE. I thought ICE 1460 01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,840 Speaker 1: was already funded in the One Big Beautiful Bill. Am 1461 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:27,599 Speaker 1: I wrong about that? 1462 01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:29,280 Speaker 14: No? 1463 01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,920 Speaker 12: I think you're correct. And it really is a sign 1464 01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:37,479 Speaker 12: of their desperation that they want to stop enforcement of 1465 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,680 Speaker 12: our federal immigration laws, particularly when you look at the numbers, 1466 01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:44,599 Speaker 12: and I think something like seventy eighty percent of the 1467 01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,800 Speaker 12: aliens that have been picked up by the administration or 1468 01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:52,639 Speaker 12: individuals with criminal records, and yet those are the people 1469 01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:56,160 Speaker 12: they want not picked up, that they want left in 1470 01:31:56,200 --> 01:32:00,160 Speaker 12: our local communities. It's really outrageous that they're taking that 1471 01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:00,960 Speaker 12: kind of position. 1472 01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,840 Speaker 1: Hans. One of the demands for at least some of 1473 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,559 Speaker 1: the Democrats, Chuck Schumer said, we have to stop the 1474 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:13,640 Speaker 1: roving patrols by ice. Are they engaging in roving patrols? 1475 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:21,400 Speaker 12: Well, no, they're going after individuals, almost overwhelmingly, who already 1476 01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,879 Speaker 12: have deportation removal orders. In other words, these are aliens 1477 01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:30,200 Speaker 12: who've had their day in court and immigration courts. Judges 1478 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,920 Speaker 12: have looked at their cases and determined that they're not 1479 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,519 Speaker 12: eligible to stay in the United States, and so it's 1480 01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:42,519 Speaker 12: removal orders the DHS is trying to enforce. That's not 1481 01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:48,960 Speaker 12: roving patrols. That's trying to actually enforce court ordered removals. 1482 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:53,160 Speaker 1: Trump has threatened, although I haven't heard of say it recently, 1483 01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,720 Speaker 1: Hans to arrest people like the mayor of Minneapolis, the 1484 01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:01,360 Speaker 1: governor of Minnesota, for impeding the efforts by ice and 1485 01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:06,280 Speaker 1: by border patrol. Is that serious? Is that plausible? Is 1486 01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:07,600 Speaker 1: there a basis for that? 1487 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,880 Speaker 12: Look, the dividing line in this area legally is that 1488 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:19,280 Speaker 12: the federal government cannot force state and local officials to 1489 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:25,599 Speaker 12: enforce federal law. However, when state local officials actually begin 1490 01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:31,960 Speaker 12: obstructing enforcement, stopping federal enforcement, that's when they step over 1491 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,800 Speaker 12: the line and they can be prosecuted for that. All 1492 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,599 Speaker 12: you have to do is look at the local judge 1493 01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:42,400 Speaker 12: in Wisconsin who was recently convicted for helping an illegal 1494 01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:46,040 Speaker 12: alien escape from DHS out of her courtroom and out 1495 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 12: of the courthouse. She stepped over the line to obstruct 1496 01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:54,840 Speaker 12: federal enforcement. So local officials don't have any immunity from 1497 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,200 Speaker 12: federal prosecution if they're engaging in that kind of behavior. 1498 01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,960 Speaker 1: Has anybody in many Apolis, We only have a few 1499 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:04,120 Speaker 1: seconds left in the segment, Hans, in your opinion, stepped 1500 01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,360 Speaker 1: over the line? Are gotten close to stepping over the line. 1501 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,559 Speaker 37: I don't know the answer to that because I don't 1502 01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:16,120 Speaker 37: have enough facts on what they've been doing besides talking 1503 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:22,040 Speaker 37: and telling people to resist DHS enforcement. 1504 01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,320 Speaker 12: But I think it's something, frankly, that ought to be 1505 01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:24,800 Speaker 12: looked at. 1506 01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,439 Speaker 1: We come back. Several states have passed a new congressional map. 1507 01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,160 Speaker 1: When talk to you about these redistricting wars and what 1508 01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,280 Speaker 1: impact will have on the midterms. I guess it's Hans 1509 01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:43,080 Speaker 1: Poski on Triple eight Nights seven one seven two four 1510 01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,280 Speaker 1: to three Triple eight nine seven one s A g E. 1511 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:48,160 Speaker 1: I am LARRYO. That we are Salem News Channel, brought 1512 01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,200 Speaker 1: from the relief factor of studios. Don't forget your relief 1513 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,240 Speaker 1: factor eight hundred four relief that's eight hundred to number 1514 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,880 Speaker 1: four relief relief factor dot com beliefactor dot com. My 1515 01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,960 Speaker 1: guess has written Who's Counting? How fraudsters and bureaucrats put 1516 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,759 Speaker 1: to vote at risk? Also Obama's enforcer, Eric Holder's Justice Department. 1517 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,920 Speaker 1: He is Hans von Spakowski, a senior legal fellow at 1518 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:12,160 Speaker 1: Advancing American Freedom. Hans, we have several states that have 1519 01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:17,559 Speaker 1: engaged in redistricting California, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Texas. Other 1520 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:21,519 Speaker 1: states have kind of redrawn their maps. Other states have 1521 01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,719 Speaker 1: taken some sort of action towards voluntary restricting. Who's winning 1522 01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:25,320 Speaker 1: this war. 1523 01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:32,320 Speaker 12: At the moment? I think it's kind of even. Texas 1524 01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:36,880 Speaker 12: Republicans passed a new redistricting map that would have taken 1525 01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:41,520 Speaker 12: several Democratic congressional seats made them more favorable for Republicans. 1526 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:47,920 Speaker 12: Republicans and while a three judge panel throughout the redistricting 1527 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,200 Speaker 12: map and a two to one decision when it was 1528 01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,639 Speaker 12: appealed to the U. S. Supreme Court. The Supreme Court 1529 01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:57,080 Speaker 12: throughout the lower court decision and said no Texas could 1530 01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:01,640 Speaker 12: use this new plan. In the twenty sixth election, Virginia 1531 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,439 Speaker 12: Democrats just did the same thing in Virginia. They took 1532 01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:10,559 Speaker 12: four GOP seats, got rid of them to change them 1533 01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:15,240 Speaker 12: into Democratic seats. But a judge here has also just 1534 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,559 Speaker 12: thrown out what the Democrats did, saying it violated the 1535 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:25,840 Speaker 12: state constitution Texas. California, as you know, was successful again 1536 01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,040 Speaker 12: in a lower court decision two to one, but that's 1537 01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:32,360 Speaker 12: been appealed to the Supreme Court, and I actually think 1538 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:37,080 Speaker 12: the Supreme Court is going to overrule what the three 1539 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:42,160 Speaker 12: judge panel did in California and declare the California registrict 1540 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:48,280 Speaker 12: plan unconstitutional for various reasons. So, like I said, the 1541 01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:51,840 Speaker 12: cases are all still in the courts, so we're not 1542 01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:53,720 Speaker 12: quite sure who's going to come out of head. 1543 01:36:54,680 --> 01:37:01,360 Speaker 1: It's eighteen to twenty thirteen Republicans versus Democrats for vacancies, 1544 01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:08,120 Speaker 1: given what's going on with immigration, given Trump's poll numbers, 1545 01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:12,880 Speaker 1: given how difficult the end party has on midterms in general. 1546 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,479 Speaker 1: What do you think is going to happen in the 1547 01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:16,680 Speaker 1: midterms come November. 1548 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,439 Speaker 12: Well, I do think there's a good chance Republicans will 1549 01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,919 Speaker 12: lose the House because they have one of the narrowest 1550 01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:28,760 Speaker 12: margins in our entire history in holding it. But I 1551 01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,200 Speaker 12: think the Republicans are going to hold on to the 1552 01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,400 Speaker 12: US Senate. So I think we're going to have a 1553 01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:38,880 Speaker 12: split Congress there and that is going to make it 1554 01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:43,080 Speaker 12: more difficult for the President to get his policies and 1555 01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,479 Speaker 12: the legislation he wants through. 1556 01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,720 Speaker 1: Now, the mantra is that the election is going to 1557 01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 1: be about affordability haunts. I think that's a bunch of 1558 01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,960 Speaker 1: bull I think the economy is rocking and rolling. The 1559 01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:58,679 Speaker 1: gas prices haven't been this low in five years, mortgage 1560 01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:02,240 Speaker 1: rates haven't been this low in three years. The fact 1561 01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,639 Speaker 1: is that we've had a GDP growth last quarter, probably 1562 01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,280 Speaker 1: over five percent. I think it's going to get even better. 1563 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:12,479 Speaker 1: People's income is exceeding inflation, egg prices down dramatically, So 1564 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,719 Speaker 1: I think it's nonsense that we have an affordability crisis. 1565 01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:17,160 Speaker 1: Trump is called it a hoax. I mean, there are 1566 01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:18,720 Speaker 1: always going to be people who are hurting, so I 1567 01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't put it that way. I think the real issue, 1568 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:22,920 Speaker 1: Hans is whether or not this man it's going to 1569 01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,280 Speaker 1: get credit for anything. As you pointed out earlier, the 1570 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,240 Speaker 1: kind of things that I just mentioned, you don't see 1571 01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:34,559 Speaker 1: them on ABC, NBCCBS, which you find out about is Trump, Epstein, Trump, immigration, Trump, fascist, 1572 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:36,800 Speaker 1: Nazi dictator, that kind of nonsense. 1573 01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:42,160 Speaker 12: Well, look, Frankly, I agree with you, and in particular, 1574 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,600 Speaker 12: you and I both know when people go on to 1575 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,599 Speaker 12: the voting both the average person, their gut tells them 1576 01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,200 Speaker 12: who to vote for, and most often it is their 1577 01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,479 Speaker 12: everyday lives and the cost of everyday lives. And I 1578 01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:59,240 Speaker 12: think it's a benefit to the president that when people 1579 01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,160 Speaker 12: go to the gas station now paying a lot less 1580 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,000 Speaker 12: for gas, and they've seen grocery prices also go down, 1581 01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,439 Speaker 12: and I think that's going to be a telling factor 1582 01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:10,760 Speaker 12: in the congressional elections. 1583 01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:14,479 Speaker 1: What is your take on the Trump accounts that he's 1584 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:15,200 Speaker 1: talked about the. 1585 01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:22,360 Speaker 12: Other day, Well, you know, that's another that's another potential 1586 01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:27,360 Speaker 12: benefit that the president wants to extend. I'm not sure 1587 01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:31,080 Speaker 12: you can do it without the help of Congress. He can, 1588 01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:33,800 Speaker 12: of course try to make it an issue in the 1589 01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:39,360 Speaker 12: election if Democrats oppose the proposal that he's putting forward. 1590 01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:45,040 Speaker 1: Hakim Jeffries, the House Minority Leader, says that the midterms 1591 01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:48,360 Speaker 1: will also turn on healthcare. As you know, the Obamacare 1592 01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:54,640 Speaker 1: supides and the ones that Joe Biden increased are turned out. Uh, 1593 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,600 Speaker 1: the idea is that they should be extended. What is 1594 01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,559 Speaker 1: your take on how the Republican should try the issue 1595 01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:01,440 Speaker 1: of healthcare. 1596 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,160 Speaker 12: Again. I just don't think that's going to be a 1597 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:09,240 Speaker 12: big factor with voters. Why, because the vast majority of 1598 01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:14,240 Speaker 12: voters in this country have affordable healthcare through their employers. 1599 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:18,200 Speaker 12: The number of people who don't have group health insurance 1600 01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:23,240 Speaker 12: from their employers is a tiny percentage of the American electorate, 1601 01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,320 Speaker 12: and so Democrats hope that that's going to be a 1602 01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:29,400 Speaker 12: deciding factor. I just don't think that's the case. 1603 01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:30,800 Speaker 1: We come back and when I ask you what you 1604 01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,200 Speaker 1: think the odds are, there'll be another shut down. I'm 1605 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,320 Speaker 1: want to tell you about Brian's story from Alabama. 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They believe that even when they cause the shutdown 1626 01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:56,920 Speaker 12: that it somehow helps them politically, And as you know, 1627 01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:02,080 Speaker 12: they're hanging everything they have and the idea that people 1628 01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:07,400 Speaker 12: are against immigration enforcement and therefore they want DHS either 1629 01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:12,000 Speaker 12: shut down or have its funding radically reduced. And I 1630 01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:16,120 Speaker 12: think they're making a big mistake. They're believing what they 1631 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:20,559 Speaker 12: see on MSNBC and CNN, and they haven't learned. They're, 1632 01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,679 Speaker 12: like I said, their big lesson, which is they lost 1633 01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 12: the twenty twenty four election over two things. The economy, 1634 01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,720 Speaker 12: the high price of everything from groceries to food, and 1635 01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:35,800 Speaker 12: they lost it on immigration. It was very clear the 1636 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:40,600 Speaker 12: American people wanted an improved economy and they did not 1637 01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:46,240 Speaker 12: like seeing millions of illegal aliens being allowed the country 1638 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,920 Speaker 12: and particularly in their local communities. And Democrats just don't 1639 01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:53,439 Speaker 12: seem to have learned that lesson, and they're apparently willing 1640 01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:57,480 Speaker 12: to shut down the government again over that immigration issue. 1641 01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,439 Speaker 1: You know, and hunt on those two big issues. It's 1642 01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,000 Speaker 1: been tremendous progress. The borders that you know, shut down 1643 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,680 Speaker 1: in about a month for crying out loud, and all 1644 01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,200 Speaker 1: the things we mentioned about the economy, about the GDP 1645 01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:11,519 Speaker 1: growth last quarter, people's income exceeding inflation, inflation under three percent, 1646 01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,639 Speaker 1: probably core inflation maybe two point four. Egg prices down, 1647 01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,679 Speaker 1: gas prices five year low, mortgage price of three year low. 1648 01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:19,439 Speaker 1: Where's the credit, Where's the love? 1649 01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,120 Speaker 12: Well? I said, they don't. You know, the masream media 1650 01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,800 Speaker 12: does not want to give credit to the administration or 1651 01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,240 Speaker 12: frankly to the Republicans who have passed some good legislation 1652 01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:35,320 Speaker 12: since they took control of Congress. They don't want to 1653 01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,320 Speaker 12: give them credit for it. And so that's one of 1654 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:41,800 Speaker 12: the big issues that is going on with all of this. 1655 01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:46,280 Speaker 12: But people should remember when Joe Biden was asked about 1656 01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:49,639 Speaker 12: the border and the huge flood of aliens coming across, 1657 01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:53,120 Speaker 12: he said, oh, I just don't have the power and 1658 01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,759 Speaker 12: the resources to stop this. Well, a new president came 1659 01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:02,160 Speaker 12: in and with those sources and with that same authority, 1660 01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:07,080 Speaker 12: literally shut down the southern border to the point where 1661 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:11,840 Speaker 12: they're having just a handful of individuals coming across. All 1662 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:17,040 Speaker 12: these folks said it couldn't be done, including CNN and 1663 01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:20,759 Speaker 12: MSNBC and all these liberal media sources, But in fact 1664 01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:24,439 Speaker 12: it's been done, and it's been a great improvement, particularly 1665 01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,200 Speaker 12: for states along the border like Texas. 1666 01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,800 Speaker 1: Tell us about the Save Act and what are the 1667 01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,439 Speaker 1: prospects of the Save Act getting passed in Congress. 1668 01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,800 Speaker 12: See, that's another clear sign of the way the Democrats 1669 01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,680 Speaker 12: feel about things. The Save Act is a bill. It 1670 01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,560 Speaker 12: passed the House It was sponsored by Chip Roy of Texas, 1671 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:49,679 Speaker 12: and it would simply require that when you register to vote, 1672 01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:55,400 Speaker 12: you have to provide proof of US citizenship. It has 1673 01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:59,280 Speaker 12: been uniformly opposed by the Democrats. It is sitting in 1674 01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:03,000 Speaker 12: the US Senate now. Rick Scott of Florida just recently, 1675 01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,840 Speaker 12: very publicly, he said, look, this is an important bill, 1676 01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:11,120 Speaker 12: particularly with midterm elections, and he said Republicans ought to 1677 01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:15,440 Speaker 12: force what they call a standing filibuster by the Democrats. 1678 01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:18,840 Speaker 12: In other words, don't not bring the bill up simply 1679 01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,519 Speaker 12: because the Democrats say, oh, we're going to filibuster, But 1680 01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,920 Speaker 12: force them to actually go to the floor of the 1681 01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,280 Speaker 12: Senate and try to filibuster this bill and explain to 1682 01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:33,760 Speaker 12: the American people why they're against requiring proof of citizenship 1683 01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,960 Speaker 12: to make sure that we don't have aliens voting in 1684 01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:38,720 Speaker 12: our elections. 1685 01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,599 Speaker 1: Give me your take on Trump attempting to first purchase 1686 01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,160 Speaker 1: Greenland and now apparently doing a deal where we have 1687 01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 1: more control over it. 1688 01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:54,000 Speaker 12: Well, you know, I'm not quite sure why he really 1689 01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:57,960 Speaker 12: wants to push so hard about acquiring Greenland. I mean, 1690 01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,760 Speaker 12: I think we can just do exactly what he wants 1691 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:08,040 Speaker 12: to do by entering into agreements with Greenland over investments 1692 01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:12,880 Speaker 12: there to find minerals and other natural resources, to make 1693 01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:18,400 Speaker 12: sure that we have the kind of security patrols and 1694 01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:24,000 Speaker 12: military forces there that are needed. Greenland is very impoverished, 1695 01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:28,720 Speaker 12: and I think they would actually welcome American investment. And 1696 01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:33,799 Speaker 12: we could do all that without actually acquiring the country 1697 01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:37,280 Speaker 12: of Greenland, which I think is several times bigger than California. 1698 01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:39,680 Speaker 1: Hands a couple more things. I don't think Trump gets 1699 01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,880 Speaker 1: enough credit for We're no longer on the hook tax players, 1700 01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,639 Speaker 1: for our support for Ukraine in the war between Ukraine 1701 01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,880 Speaker 1: and Russia. And he's gotten NATO allies to at least 1702 01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:53,120 Speaker 1: pledge five percent of their GDP. Presidential Obama and George W. 1703 01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:56,080 Speaker 1: Bush both complained that NATO wasn't even doing two percent. 1704 01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:58,639 Speaker 1: Trump has got him to go up to five percent, 1705 01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,720 Speaker 1: and the NATO Terry General has said that Trump is 1706 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,080 Speaker 1: right to do so. Also, he said Trump was right 1707 01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:06,080 Speaker 1: about Greenland. 1708 01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:11,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's really interesting developments, isn't it. Particularly NATO. I mean, 1709 01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,920 Speaker 12: you mentioned the prior presidents. For so long we've been 1710 01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:19,120 Speaker 12: trying to push NATO to actually put the kind of 1711 01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:24,000 Speaker 12: money into defense that they need to defend themselves, and Frankly, 1712 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:27,920 Speaker 12: I think it's been a combination of Trump taking a 1713 01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:31,799 Speaker 12: very hard line towards them, but also finally them seeing 1714 01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:39,679 Speaker 12: the danger of Russia, its political ambitions, and the fact 1715 01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:44,040 Speaker 12: that if they are not willing to defend themselves, who's 1716 01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,639 Speaker 12: going to do it? Just America on its own. 1717 01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:51,880 Speaker 1: Now, you suspect that the Democrats might be able to 1718 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,960 Speaker 1: get control of the House but not the Senate. What 1719 01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,599 Speaker 1: if that happens, are the prospects for the next two 1720 01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,559 Speaker 1: years during the Trump administration? What will the dim Democrats do? 1721 01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,320 Speaker 12: Well, They're going to oppose everything they can that the 1722 01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:08,360 Speaker 12: Trump administration is doing. They're certainly not going to let 1723 01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,720 Speaker 12: any good legislation through the kind of things we've been 1724 01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:14,600 Speaker 12: talking about, like the say back. So I think the 1725 01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:17,000 Speaker 12: President is going to have to try to get as 1726 01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:22,920 Speaker 12: much accomplished as he can through executive orders and executive 1727 01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:28,200 Speaker 12: directives from the White House. And you know, hopefully if 1728 01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:33,519 Speaker 12: that happens in twenty twenty eight, if another Republican wins 1729 01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:38,519 Speaker 12: the presidency, that might again change the tide. So the 1730 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,760 Speaker 12: Republicans take control of the Congress, and then they might 1731 01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,479 Speaker 12: have the opportunity to implement through legislation many of the 1732 01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,679 Speaker 12: changes the President's been pushing through executive action, Haunt. 1733 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,880 Speaker 1: I need a quick answer. Should the Republicans nuke the filibuster? 1734 01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:54,280 Speaker 10: No? 1735 01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:56,800 Speaker 12: I don't think so, because at some point they'll be 1736 01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,000 Speaker 12: in the minority, and if they don't have the filibuster, 1737 01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:03,760 Speaker 12: they can't stop RESK, a bad legislation pushed by Democrat. 1738 01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,760 Speaker 1: Han von Spakowski advancing American freedom. Haunts, it's always thank 1739 01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:08,240 Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time. I appreciate it. 1740 01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:10,479 Speaker 12: Sure, thanks for having. 1741 01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Triple eight Knights of in one Sage Triple eight 1742 01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:22,080 Speaker 1: Knights and one seventy two four to three lari old 1743 01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,000 Speaker 1: Is Steale and both Channel. Bill Belichick won six Super 1744 01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,439 Speaker 1: Bowls as the head coach of the New England Patriots. However, 1745 01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,080 Speaker 1: he has not been voted as a first round member 1746 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:35,479 Speaker 1: of the National Football League Hall of Fame. He's known 1747 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:38,680 Speaker 1: for a gruff curt demeanor. One of his players, Matt Light, 1748 01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,400 Speaker 1: had this story about Bill Belichick number twenty one. 1749 01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:43,920 Speaker 36: You know, you walk up the Bill and I think 1750 01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,280 Speaker 36: this is every guy that I know that ever played 1751 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,000 Speaker 36: for him for any length of time has been in 1752 01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,720 Speaker 36: this position where like, here's a great example. I want 1753 01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:55,080 Speaker 36: to go hunting when we get back from an away trip. 1754 01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:59,160 Speaker 36: So we're playing a Monday night game in Miami, which 1755 01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,360 Speaker 36: Monday night games suck. They're the worst, right as a player, 1756 01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:04,360 Speaker 36: that's the last thing you want to do. You're sitting 1757 01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,439 Speaker 36: around all day. You know, it's not a normal routine. 1758 01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,639 Speaker 36: Your body's on a certain clock, and now you're off. 1759 01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:13,280 Speaker 36: And then oh, by the way, you play the game 1760 01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:15,840 Speaker 36: super late. You don't even get on the plane until 1761 01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,280 Speaker 36: two three in the morning. By the time you land 1762 01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:21,280 Speaker 36: here it's like four thirty five, and then it's gonna 1763 01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:22,840 Speaker 36: be light in an hour and a half. Well for 1764 01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,639 Speaker 36: someone like me, I'm like, well, hell if I could 1765 01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,680 Speaker 36: just get off the plane in Providence and take my 1766 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:30,559 Speaker 36: people don't realize this either, Like we didn't get. 1767 01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,040 Speaker 12: To drive ourselves, and everything was done as a team. 1768 01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:35,280 Speaker 36: So I get on the bus and then cruise all 1769 01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,599 Speaker 36: the way up to Foxboro and then finally get home. 1770 01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:39,960 Speaker 36: So I was like, well, it'd be a lot more 1771 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,080 Speaker 36: efficient if I just got off of Providence and drove 1772 01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:44,360 Speaker 36: to my tree stand so I could get up and hunt. Now, 1773 01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,280 Speaker 36: that had nothing to do with winning football games, but 1774 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:47,880 Speaker 36: it was my off day and I did have the 1775 01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:49,479 Speaker 36: right to do this. So I was like at a 1776 01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:50,800 Speaker 36: point where I was like, oh, my ass, Bill, if 1777 01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,000 Speaker 36: I could just not ride a team bus. So I 1778 01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,920 Speaker 36: remember I walk up to Bill and I'm like, hey, 1779 01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,519 Speaker 36: Bill's you know what'd be cool when we land coming 1780 01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:01,160 Speaker 36: back from Miami if I I have a car down 1781 01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:03,600 Speaker 36: at the parking lot at t F Green, if I 1782 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:05,360 Speaker 36: could just go jump in my car and take off, 1783 01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:09,360 Speaker 36: and I swear to you, Bill's just like And then 1784 01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,400 Speaker 36: so when someone doesn't have a not even an ounce 1785 01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,200 Speaker 36: of a reaction, and it's your head coach and he's 1786 01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,760 Speaker 36: kind of an intimidating guy anyway in some ways, the 1787 01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,200 Speaker 36: only thing you can do is just keep talking. So 1788 01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:22,519 Speaker 36: then I'm like, I'm like, well, because you know, like 1789 01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:23,920 Speaker 36: you know, I love the hunt, and I do have 1790 01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:26,200 Speaker 36: a tree sands pretty close and by the time we 1791 01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:28,640 Speaker 36: get back in, it won't be light, but it'll be 1792 01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:30,080 Speaker 36: light if I try to drive down there, and you 1793 01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:31,320 Speaker 36: don't want to get up in a stand because. 1794 01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:35,880 Speaker 12: I'll see it coming. And he's like and I'm like no, 1795 01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:36,639 Speaker 12: but you know. 1796 01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:38,599 Speaker 36: Because if we did come all the way back up here, 1797 01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:40,040 Speaker 36: by the time I get myself, but I have all 1798 01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:41,680 Speaker 36: my stuff in my car down there, So I just 1799 01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:43,240 Speaker 36: think I just jump the plane right there and then 1800 01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,519 Speaker 36: I could go and then I'm back and then, you know, 1801 01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:47,120 Speaker 36: cause it's gonna be like, you know, I'm not gonna 1802 01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:50,479 Speaker 36: be able to sleep r afterwards. Nothing. By the time 1803 01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:55,040 Speaker 36: by the time I'm done talking, I've actually been the 1804 01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:57,599 Speaker 36: one to say no, because I'm like, you know what, 1805 01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,920 Speaker 36: I'm like, I really didn't want to I don't have 1806 01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,400 Speaker 36: to get off the bus. I mean, I could come 1807 01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:04,200 Speaker 36: all the way back and I don't have to go 1808 01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:05,000 Speaker 36: all the way down there. 1809 01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:05,639 Speaker 1: You know what. 1810 01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:07,320 Speaker 36: I didn't want to hunt anyway. 1811 01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:09,800 Speaker 2: I don't even like I don't even like hunting Bill. 1812 01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,360 Speaker 36: And then he's like and then he does something guggle 1813 01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:16,040 Speaker 36: like snorting sound and then walks away, and I'm like, 1814 01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,599 Speaker 36: you know what, not at all did that happen the way. 1815 01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:19,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna happen. 1816 01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,400 Speaker 1: Triple eight Night seven one s A G E twenty 1817 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:26,360 Speaker 1: four seven line. Feel free to call eaven message. Make 1818 01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,240 Speaker 1: sure it's under sixty second nough profanity. Talk to you tomorrow. 1819 01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:33,720 Speaker 1: God bless. 1820 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:40,200 Speaker 36: What can I say it bounce, But Michael has been 1821 01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,080 Speaker 36: dropping all across America. 1822 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:42,880 Speaker 2: That's enough. 1823 01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,240 Speaker 1: Put down the micro The Larry Elder Show,