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Speaker 1: this is John. As you've probably heard by now after

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Speaker 2: Today on Talk About That, John has specific instructions for

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Speaker 2: his wife when he dies and reveals his obsession with

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Speaker 2: vice grip pliers. Meanwhile, I ponder the real villain of

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Speaker 2: government-imported camels in the 1800s led to ghost sightings in Arizona. Plus,

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Speaker 2: a conversation about contemplation and the power our thoughts have

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Speaker 3: Johnny, it's what you come to expect every week. It's

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Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you say.

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Speaker 2: I love your mother very much. Wait.

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Speaker 1: That's when this went.

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Speaker 4: On.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I always wonder. I always tell Laura, make sure

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Speaker 2: You've told her this?

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. What, y'all don't talk about it?

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Speaker 4: Maybe.

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Speaker 1: You and Curry don't talk about what happens if one

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Speaker 1: of you dies?

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Speaker 2: Well, John, I can't die. This is a weird time

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Speaker 2: But she's already like, oh, of course, I've already... Are

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Speaker 2: it's one of those like... You want her to marry

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Speaker 1: Maybe marry someone with both more flaws and more money.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 3: If you're going to have more flaws.

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Speaker 2: You might as well have... But you have life insurance.

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Speaker 2: She'll be set. She'll be set. So now you just

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Speaker 1: That she always hallows me. even if only in secret

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? He had fewer, I think,

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Speaker 1: Looked at the pictures she'd already lived a good life

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Speaker 1: go make something of their own lives. Johnny, this season

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Speaker 2: You don't. What's wrong with you?

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with me is I don't want to throw

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Speaker 1: It was hard to watch that. Cause you're like, at

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Speaker 1: You know, marriage is more than just being in love

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Speaker 3: This is how you have to marry somebody in order

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Speaker 1: And so you may not find your, you know, your

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Speaker 2: It is. You don't, you don't see anybody ever splitting

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Speaker 1: No one's unhappy when they had their own choices and

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Speaker 3: It's exactly what we all want.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying you want less freedom.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying I want to choose who my daughter marries.

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Speaker 2: Oh, sure.

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Speaker 3: Like an arranged. It may sound nuts to you.

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Speaker 1: I get it. And the deal is none of y'all

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Speaker 3: And so I think I'd make a really good choice.

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Speaker 2: I think you're going to be the best cult leader.

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Speaker 1: I tell you.

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Speaker 3: The last few times, I wasn't as great. I have

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine, like, a regular guy that's just a

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Speaker 1: Arrange is a strong word, Johnny.

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Speaker 2: Well, you are a matchmaker. You and Laura are big

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying you like, but I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Listen, if you're listening and you think you're with some

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Speaker 1: of those people, Johnny just questioned the happiness of your marriage.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying you're justifying, you're saying the ends justify the

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Speaker 1: Is it meddling? See, this is where I'm getting at.

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Speaker 1: The modern culture calls it meddling because, and actually I

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Speaker 2: It's over here. Oh boy, you're such a busybody. You're

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Speaker 2: just like, when I, I just showed them what was

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Speaker 1: Misreading scriptures through Western eyes.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's a great book. You should go read it.

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Speaker 2: Misreading marriage through meddling eyes. That's your noob.

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Speaker 1: What we consider meddling speaks to the individualistic value system

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Speaker 2: Right. You're saying it takes a village to make a marriage.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And you needed to be in there like, hey, did

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Speaker 2: You're like, shouldn't you?

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Speaker 1: But there was a humility in past cultures and times.

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Speaker 2: Take this potion.

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Speaker 1: Where you would go, oh, the biggest decision of my

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Speaker 1: That I obviously am not old enough yet to understand

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Speaker 1: all the ramifications of.

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Speaker 1: That I'm still in a state of limerence, meaning I'm

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Speaker 2: I've never heard the word limerence. I never heard that.

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Speaker 2: What's limerence?

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Speaker 1: Limerence is, there was a guy named Joe Beam who

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Speaker 1: And it was the state of mind, literally the chemical

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Speaker 2: Like an infatuation state.

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Speaker 3: Where your brain cannot see all the negatives of another person.

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Speaker 3: His feet are dangling.

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Speaker 2: get down from there. It was just such a funny

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Speaker 1: But he, he makes more jokes about himself than me.

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Speaker 2: That can't be the end of Jake.

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Speaker 3: Avoidable pain.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Is my whole trigger in life. Avoidable trouble. Unavoidable trouble.

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Speaker 3: It's what it is.

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Speaker 2: You know what's unavoidable, John? I do know. Commercials. And

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Speaker 1: We have made a point. You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 3: We make idle promises. Now there's a big difference.

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Speaker 2: Is the show better in the dark? Perhaps. Maybe.

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Speaker 2: I always tell that to Carrie. She listens to these

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Speaker 2: I go, you had murder in your ears for eight hours. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My wife listens to podcasts everywhere, but she has a

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Speaker 1: You always thought I was very productive. You brag about

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 1: Like this other, but he was like, he went to

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Speaker 2: The Ear Suck 2000.

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Speaker 3: Can we really think it through for a second?

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 1: The Irrigator.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Dude, you should have had that.

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Speaker 2: It's right there.

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Speaker 1: And it's like it shoots water, but it makes like a.

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Speaker 2: Or goes further in and gets in your brain.

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Speaker 1: No, because it goes in and turns around and creates

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Speaker 3: No, it comes out your ear.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I see.

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Speaker 3: It's a water flow.

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Speaker 2: That's their, that's their slogan.

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Speaker 3: So I got, I got all the plugs pulled.

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Speaker 1: Out of my ear.

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 1: Harbor Freight Tools.

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Speaker 3: This is back to your gadget thing. Do you ever

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Speaker 2: Love it. They're great if you need a tool that

454
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Speaker 2: lasts like two weeks.

455
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Speaker 1: I was in there.

456
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Speaker 2: If you're like, I'm going to mix tile mortar and

457
00:17:52,862 --> 00:17:55,662
Speaker 2: I need a drill to spin the little cake batter thing.

458
00:17:56,161 --> 00:17:58,141
Speaker 2: But it'll ruin my drill, but I can get a

459
00:17:58,121 --> 00:18:01,042
Speaker 2: $ 17 Harbor Freight drill, and then I can make my

460
00:18:01,081 --> 00:18:03,222
Speaker 2: tile job, and then I'll throw it in the trash.

461
00:18:03,342 --> 00:18:05,462
Speaker 1: Most of my Harbor Freight stuff is done pretty well.

462
00:18:05,581 --> 00:18:08,022
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a— Harbor Freight, not a sponsor, I hope.

463
00:18:08,161 --> 00:18:08,862
Speaker 1: I have a nailer.

464
00:18:09,322 --> 00:18:09,562
Speaker 2: Yeah.

465
00:18:09,581 --> 00:18:11,372
Speaker 1: When I had to repair a bunch of stuff under

466
00:18:11,391 --> 00:18:13,852
Speaker 1: my deck, like huge boards, and I mean, the nailer

467
00:18:13,871 --> 00:18:14,512
Speaker 1: worked great.

468
00:18:14,811 --> 00:18:16,911
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you used it more than a few times now?

469
00:18:16,931 --> 00:18:17,772
Speaker 1: No, just that one project.

470
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Speaker 2: That's what I mean. I think that's what I mean.

471
00:18:19,331 --> 00:18:22,912
Speaker 2: It's like they're disposable tools almost. Yeah. Yeah.

472
00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:27,821
Speaker 1: I think that my chop saw is from Harbor Freight.

473
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Speaker 3: That was my dad's, so it's still going.

474
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Speaker 1: All right. He used it a lot, and I use

475
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Speaker 1: that quite a bit, actually. But yeah, that's one of

476
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Speaker 1: the only— there are only two places I like to shop

477
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Speaker 1: in my entire life.

478
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Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say you could hear

479
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Speaker 2: the tools better.

480
00:18:39,891 --> 00:18:40,671
Speaker 1: I can hear them calling.

481
00:18:40,692 --> 00:18:45,732
Speaker 2: I stepped out, and you're like— you heard like a— It's like,

482
00:18:45,972 --> 00:18:49,911
Speaker 2: remember when Daredevil, that's what happens with Daredevil when he

483
00:18:50,112 --> 00:18:52,192
Speaker 2: gets his powers or whatever. He's laying in bed and

484
00:18:52,212 --> 00:18:54,451
Speaker 2: he can hear the married couple fighting next door. He

485
00:18:54,472 --> 00:18:56,201
Speaker 2: can hear somebody else getting abused. He can hear a

486
00:18:56,212 --> 00:18:57,922
Speaker 2: guy getting beat up in the street. And it's like

487
00:18:57,962 --> 00:18:59,941
Speaker 2: driving him crazy. It's like he hears all the crime

488
00:18:59,982 --> 00:19:04,162
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. But all of his senses are heightened.

489
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Speaker 1: It was just like that.

490
00:19:05,322 --> 00:19:05,982
Speaker 2: It was just like that.

491
00:19:06,002 --> 00:19:06,542
Speaker 1: It was just like that.

492
00:19:06,681 --> 00:19:08,602
Speaker 2: Except you could hear a drill press.

493
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Speaker 1: But I did come out with quite a few. Like

494
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Speaker 1: if I go into Harbor Freight, I come out with

495
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Speaker 1: a pair of... Now, what is the most useful tool

496
00:19:16,081 --> 00:19:17,261
Speaker 1: of all time? Oh, I don't know.

497
00:19:17,862 --> 00:19:21,312
Speaker 3: Hand tool. And you can get it for cheap.

498
00:19:21,351 --> 00:19:24,012
Speaker 2: Like a channel lock, little adjustable pliers?

499
00:19:24,112 --> 00:19:25,151
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what kind?

500
00:19:25,172 --> 00:19:26,072
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.

501
00:19:26,632 --> 00:19:27,972
Speaker 3: Needle nose vice grips.

502
00:19:28,152 --> 00:19:30,312
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never even... Have I seen needle nose vice grips?

503
00:19:32,402 --> 00:19:33,922
Speaker 1: You mean some of these?

504
00:19:34,782 --> 00:19:36,382
Speaker 2: Oh, look at you. All the ones that adjust at

505
00:19:36,422 --> 00:19:37,261
Speaker 2: the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

506
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Speaker 1: Needle nose vice grips.

507
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Speaker 3: I got a big one. I mean, you can get

508
00:19:39,542 --> 00:19:40,651
Speaker 3: these for like six bucks.

509
00:19:41,612 --> 00:19:43,191
Speaker 2: You really are prepared for this.

510
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Speaker 3: I brought this to stick over here in this drawer

511
00:19:45,112 --> 00:19:47,212
Speaker 3: because I can't tell you how often. I mean, it

512
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Speaker 3: is the best tool.

513
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Speaker 2: Needle nose vice grips.

514
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Speaker 3: You use it so often, you know, leaving it places

515
00:19:50,382 --> 00:19:50,792
Speaker 3: and everything.

516
00:19:50,811 --> 00:19:52,861
Speaker 1: So I picked out some needle nose vice grips.

517
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Speaker 2: This is the daddy. This is the daddest conversation. It's

518
00:19:56,942 --> 00:20:01,411
Speaker 2: like just a We're going to talk about barbecuing in

519
00:20:01,452 --> 00:20:04,102
Speaker 2: a minute. Oh, we do get a new smoker. Arranged marriage.

520
00:20:04,141 --> 00:20:04,981
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's another.

521
00:20:06,962 --> 00:20:07,061
Speaker 2: Thing.

522
00:20:07,081 --> 00:20:07,902
Speaker 3: Hey, Johnny, it's about that time.

523
00:20:08,002 --> 00:20:08,372
Speaker 1: Oh, is it?

524
00:20:08,702 --> 00:20:10,781
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my quote of the week, a segment we

525
00:20:10,802 --> 00:20:11,942
Speaker 3: call They Talked About That.

526
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Speaker 4: It's pretty good.

527
00:20:25,232 --> 00:20:27,212
Speaker 1: A little Gregorian chant.

528
00:20:27,552 --> 00:20:27,752
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

529
00:20:29,402 --> 00:20:30,382
Speaker 1: Methodology going on there.

530
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Speaker 2: I went a little Gregorian with it. Is it named

531
00:20:32,081 --> 00:20:37,532
Speaker 2: after Gregory? Who are the Gregorians? What's that all about?

532
00:20:37,891 --> 00:20:40,292
Speaker 2: Was there a guy named Gregory? Pope Gregory? Was there

533
00:20:40,311 --> 00:20:41,532
Speaker 2: a Pope Gregory? I bet there was.

534
00:20:41,672 --> 00:20:43,132
Speaker 1: I bet there was. I think there was, but.

535
00:20:43,802 --> 00:20:46,622
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's Gregorian monks, maybe.

536
00:20:46,722 --> 00:20:49,402
Speaker 1: Perhaps it's an order. There's no way to know.

537
00:20:49,762 --> 00:20:51,222
Speaker 3: Well, that's for another time.

538
00:20:51,302 --> 00:20:51,642
Speaker 1: It is.

539
00:20:51,882 --> 00:20:54,902
Speaker 2: People are already shouting at their devices.

540
00:20:56,702 --> 00:21:02,012
Speaker 1: Marcus Aurelius. So he was a Roman emperor. But if

541
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Speaker 1: you remember in the first Gladiator, this is the emperor

542
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Speaker 1: that he serves when he finally reveals himself to the

543
00:21:10,581 --> 00:21:12,782
Speaker 1: evil emperor who killed Marcus Aurelius in his sleep.

544
00:21:13,411 --> 00:21:13,691
Speaker 4: Yes.

545
00:21:14,252 --> 00:21:14,572
Speaker 2: I am the.

546
00:21:14,552 --> 00:21:17,311
Speaker 1: Commander of the armies of the North loyal servant to

547
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Speaker 1: Marcus Aurelius.

548
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Speaker 3: So he's a real guy. So, um, not Russell Crowe.

549
00:21:22,931 --> 00:21:23,932
Speaker 3: He's also a real guy.

550
00:21:24,411 --> 00:21:24,611
Speaker 4: Right.

551
00:21:25,232 --> 00:21:26,881
Speaker 3: But he wasn't really a gladiator.

552
00:21:26,922 --> 00:21:27,512
Speaker 1: That was a movie.

553
00:21:28,581 --> 00:21:28,841
Speaker 2: Yes.

554
00:21:29,141 --> 00:21:31,342
Speaker 3: Roman emperor from one 61 to one 80.

555
00:21:31,342 --> 00:21:35,081
Speaker 1: But, uh, the thing I've been, I've been looking at

556
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Speaker 1: some quotes from, uh, like stoic philosophers lately, a little bit.

557
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Speaker 1: I think we don't look at what the ancient Greeks

558
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Speaker 1: and Romans and others, you know, I.

559
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Speaker 3: Think this is interesting.

560
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Speaker 1: We have modern bias and we assume, you know, but

561
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Speaker 1: often people are saying things much, much more intelligently than

562
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Speaker 1: we're thinking.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we think of stoic. It's like a negative thing.

564
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Speaker 2: It was so stoic. We think it means like you're

565
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Speaker 2: you're not letting your emotions. get to you in a

566
00:22:02,371 --> 00:22:04,811
Speaker 2: bad way like you you live your life like in

567
00:22:04,851 --> 00:22:07,252
Speaker 2: a muted way right instead of like no i'm just

568
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Speaker 2: under control and i'm very contemplative that's what stoic yeah

569
00:22:10,292 --> 00:22:11,131
Speaker 2: to them you're.

570
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Speaker 1: Not running from the negative you're allowing life to have

571
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Speaker 1: a i'm sure there's there's always an extreme to every

572
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Speaker 1: side you know but you're not as opposed to the

573
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Speaker 1: epicureans or right they were all about pleasure right but

574
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Speaker 1: the stoics you know allowing there to be some some

575
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Speaker 1: level of balance between negativity and positivity, recognizing it all

576
00:22:29,982 --> 00:22:31,322
Speaker 1: makes you, in fact, there's a whole movement. I forget

577
00:22:31,342 --> 00:22:31,821
Speaker 1: what it's called.

578
00:22:32,161 --> 00:22:36,162
Speaker 2: Um, well, you know, is it the new stoicism that's coming?

579
00:22:36,542 --> 00:22:39,302
Speaker 2: So what you're saying, there's a, I'm starting it right now.

580
00:22:39,391 --> 00:22:41,051
Speaker 2: I think I'm the right guy. The key tenants are

581
00:22:41,112 --> 00:22:45,852
Speaker 2: arranged marriage, contemplation, Harbor Freight. Harbor Freight. Vice Grips. Yeah.

582
00:22:45,992 --> 00:22:46,492
Speaker 2: For some reason.

583
00:22:46,512 --> 00:22:47,571
Speaker 1: God, I have some Vice Grips.

584
00:22:47,592 --> 00:22:50,631
Speaker 2: That's how you hold the people together after you've married

585
00:22:50,652 --> 00:22:52,571
Speaker 2: them off. It's like, no, you're not going anywhere.

586
00:22:52,592 --> 00:22:53,772
Speaker 4: Dude, Vice Grips.

587
00:22:54,152 --> 00:22:54,591
Speaker 3: Needle Nose.

588
00:22:54,871 --> 00:22:55,071
Speaker 2: Okay.

589
00:22:55,831 --> 00:22:59,361
Speaker 1: He said, the soul becomes dyed with the color of

590
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Speaker 1: its thoughts. The soul becomes dyed with the color of

591
00:23:04,042 --> 00:23:05,701
Speaker 1: its thoughts. And you and I had a lot of

592
00:23:05,742 --> 00:23:08,782
Speaker 1: talk at lunch today about these kinds of concepts.

593
00:23:11,081 --> 00:23:12,321
Speaker 3: I think being a dad.

594
00:23:13,192 --> 00:23:16,952
Speaker 1: of a 16, almost 17 year old girl who plays

595
00:23:17,012 --> 00:23:20,862
Speaker 1: sports and is, you know, um, finishing her sophomore year,

596
00:23:20,882 --> 00:23:24,442
Speaker 1: going to start her junior year college talks. And, um,

597
00:23:25,262 --> 00:23:29,002
Speaker 1: I mean, she won an academic award, top 10. Yeah.

598
00:23:29,121 --> 00:23:32,042
Speaker 1: I mean, she's, she's doing well, but life is not

599
00:23:32,161 --> 00:23:35,042
Speaker 1: always easy. I mean, you know, she's neurodivergent and her

600
00:23:35,081 --> 00:23:38,721
Speaker 1: brain is just wired beautifully. Um, and different than a

601
00:23:38,742 --> 00:23:42,231
Speaker 1: neurotypical person, but there's lots, you know, but I think I,

602
00:23:42,222 --> 00:23:43,822
Speaker 1: I don't know where I fall in the spectrum. I

603
00:23:43,842 --> 00:23:45,461
Speaker 1: think we all fall somewhere to some extent.

604
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Speaker 2: Everybody's on the spectrum. It's a spectrum, right?

605
00:23:47,782 --> 00:23:48,181
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

606
00:23:49,081 --> 00:23:50,702
Speaker 3: Um, but.

607
00:23:52,061 --> 00:23:56,861
Speaker 1: There's like this tension of what do I think she

608
00:23:56,962 --> 00:24:01,632
Speaker 1: needs to know before she enters the world as an adult?

609
00:24:01,692 --> 00:24:01,892
Speaker 2: Yeah.

610
00:24:02,542 --> 00:24:05,091
Speaker 1: And I think maybe in the past, some of those

611
00:24:05,192 --> 00:24:11,272
Speaker 1: things were almost, um, caught more easily just within the

612
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Speaker 1: normal ramifications of family life.

613
00:24:14,012 --> 00:24:14,232
Speaker 2: Yeah.

614
00:24:15,212 --> 00:24:16,591
Speaker 3: And I think that.

615
00:24:17,772 --> 00:24:23,101
Speaker 1: Pace and technology and their version of communication with one

616
00:24:23,161 --> 00:24:26,322
Speaker 1: another and their friends, they're not catching as much because

617
00:24:26,542 --> 00:24:29,082
Speaker 1: of the nature of social medias or communication and those

618
00:24:29,121 --> 00:24:33,782
Speaker 1: kinds of things. And I also feel sometimes as if, like,

619
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Speaker 1: cause I'm a, and it can be shocked to hear this, like,

620
00:24:37,052 --> 00:24:40,012
Speaker 1: I'm a direct instruction kind of guy, right? Like, I'm

621
00:24:40,232 --> 00:24:43,971
Speaker 1: constantly saying the thing out loud that I want you

622
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Speaker 1: to know.

623
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Speaker 2: Is that how you would rather be taught as well? Like,

624
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Speaker 2: in other words, would you rather just know right from

625
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Speaker 2: somebody else that goes, just tell me what you want

626
00:24:53,681 --> 00:24:54,381
Speaker 2: me to do. Yes.

627
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Speaker 3: That's why I'm the quote of the week guy, right?

628
00:24:56,882 --> 00:24:57,002
Speaker 2: Yeah.

629
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Speaker 1: I mean, a good aphorism. Because I'm a head first.

630
00:25:01,362 --> 00:25:05,172
Speaker 1: I'm a thinking first guy in the triad. I think

631
00:25:05,192 --> 00:25:07,882
Speaker 1: my daughter is a feeling first person. And she has

632
00:25:07,922 --> 00:25:11,761
Speaker 1: a lot of Enneagram 6 tendencies as well, but she

633
00:25:11,822 --> 00:25:13,502
Speaker 1: seems to be in the heart triad, as is my

634
00:25:13,561 --> 00:25:15,542
Speaker 1: wife in the heart triad, which doesn't mean they don't

635
00:25:15,702 --> 00:25:19,061
Speaker 1: think or, you know, which means they feel first. So, yes,

636
00:25:19,692 --> 00:25:22,471
Speaker 1: I have to learn, oh, okay, if you come to

637
00:25:22,532 --> 00:25:26,712
Speaker 1: me and you just drop that perfect sentence, it will

638
00:25:26,732 --> 00:25:29,392
Speaker 1: change my life. Like I will go, okay, I now

639
00:25:29,452 --> 00:25:32,072
Speaker 1: think that way. And we'll try to apply that. I

640
00:25:32,092 --> 00:25:34,071
Speaker 1: will write it down. I will meditate on it through

641
00:25:34,272 --> 00:25:35,992
Speaker 1: various ways. And it'll just be kind of a thing.

642
00:25:36,822 --> 00:25:39,081
Speaker 1: I remember a friend, Elizabeth, I remember she told me

643
00:25:39,141 --> 00:25:42,891
Speaker 1: one time, she was in college age at that point.

644
00:25:42,942 --> 00:25:45,591
Speaker 1: She goes, you're one of the people I know in life,

645
00:25:45,652 --> 00:25:48,092
Speaker 1: I don't know many, that every time I talk to you,

646
00:25:48,132 --> 00:25:53,652
Speaker 1: something is changing your life. Because I'm very excited about information.

647
00:25:53,692 --> 00:25:57,121
Speaker 1: I'm excited about new information and growing. And there's a

648
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Speaker 1: limit to that. I have certainly, I mean, it was

649
00:26:00,262 --> 00:26:06,002
Speaker 1: a mistaken belief assumption as a younger person to think

650
00:26:06,081 --> 00:26:09,141
Speaker 1: that i could learn my way into certain places of

651
00:26:09,202 --> 00:26:11,601
Speaker 1: maturity that now i'm seeing oh my only way i'm

652
00:26:11,641 --> 00:26:15,182
Speaker 1: ever going to get there is by learning from experiences

653
00:26:15,802 --> 00:26:18,222
Speaker 1: i don't think experience in itself is enough right because

654
00:26:18,242 --> 00:26:20,052
Speaker 1: you can have an experience and not learn from it.

655
00:26:19,992 --> 00:26:22,032
Speaker 2: Right it could just be traumatic and then you just yeah.

656
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Speaker 1: And i do think stopping to verbalize or or add

657
00:26:26,712 --> 00:26:31,402
Speaker 1: language to the experience in your post-mortem in your you know,

658
00:26:31,522 --> 00:26:33,322
Speaker 1: analysis of it's really important.

659
00:26:33,661 --> 00:26:37,392
Speaker 2: Um, it sounds exhausting to be in my head. Yeah. Well,

660
00:26:37,411 --> 00:26:40,831
Speaker 2: it'd be exhausting to be in a family relationship with you.

661
00:26:40,992 --> 00:26:43,772
Speaker 2: Cause you'd be like, what did we learn? I know.

662
00:26:43,911 --> 00:26:46,571
Speaker 2: I really tried to post-mortem on this trip to Bucky's.

663
00:26:47,112 --> 00:26:50,152
Speaker 2: What did we, there's so much to learn from Bucky's,

664
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Speaker 2: but it's a, it, and I don't want to be

665
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Speaker 2: that guy.

666
00:26:53,042 --> 00:26:54,802
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to be the exhausting guy, but

667
00:26:54,822 --> 00:26:56,002
Speaker 3: I also feel like I'm running out of time.

668
00:26:56,342 --> 00:26:56,982
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

669
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Speaker 1: And so there's like this whole, okay. Um, I know

670
00:26:59,601 --> 00:27:02,032
Speaker 1: you're not gonna like this, But this is kind of

671
00:27:02,052 --> 00:27:05,402
Speaker 1: my whole job to do this. So how do I maintain?

672
00:27:05,422 --> 00:27:07,761
Speaker 1: And there's I don't think I do very well with that.

673
00:27:07,802 --> 00:27:10,662
Speaker 1: Laura helps me. You had to pick and choose when

674
00:27:10,702 --> 00:27:13,441
Speaker 1: and all those things. But at some point, the kids

675
00:27:13,462 --> 00:27:15,851
Speaker 1: are so stressed. There's never a good time.

676
00:27:16,482 --> 00:27:16,802
Speaker 2: Right.

677
00:27:16,891 --> 00:27:18,552
Speaker 1: I just have to do at some point like this

678
00:27:18,592 --> 00:27:20,272
Speaker 1: is you're not going to like this because you're not

679
00:27:20,311 --> 00:27:22,292
Speaker 1: in a headspace for this. But when are you ever

680
00:27:22,331 --> 00:27:24,732
Speaker 1: going to be? When does life slow down enough for

681
00:27:24,752 --> 00:27:26,512
Speaker 1: you just to be like, you know what, dad? Yeah.

682
00:27:26,972 --> 00:27:28,322
Speaker 1: Let's talk contemplation.

683
00:27:28,342 --> 00:27:29,042
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?

684
00:27:29,061 --> 00:27:30,482
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like if you only go to the gym

685
00:27:30,542 --> 00:27:32,382
Speaker 2: on days you feel like it, you never go to

686
00:27:32,402 --> 00:27:33,122
Speaker 2: the gym. Right.

687
00:27:33,902 --> 00:27:34,262
Speaker 1: It's like.

688
00:27:34,302 --> 00:27:35,641
Speaker 2: Which is why I haven't been to the gym.

689
00:27:35,942 --> 00:27:36,922
Speaker 1: Free drinks tomorrow.

690
00:27:37,402 --> 00:27:40,502
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Free beer manana. Want that? I mean, like.

691
00:27:40,522 --> 00:27:41,402
Speaker 2: Some of y'all out here.

692
00:27:41,621 --> 00:27:42,862
Speaker 3: Guys, y'all just need to.

693
00:27:42,882 --> 00:27:43,591
Speaker 4: I don't know.

694
00:27:44,132 --> 00:27:49,972
Speaker 1: But so we talk a lot, though, about. understanding, paying

695
00:27:50,012 --> 00:27:53,852
Speaker 1: attention to the direction of your thoughts. And then to me,

696
00:27:53,891 --> 00:27:57,142
Speaker 1: that also trickles into your words, like what's coming out

697
00:27:57,181 --> 00:27:59,401
Speaker 1: of your mouth is a reflection of your, the Bible

698
00:27:59,422 --> 00:28:02,202
Speaker 1: says your heart. I think, you know, when you look

699
00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:06,101
Speaker 1: at heart and soul and soul, the soul word in

700
00:28:06,181 --> 00:28:09,222
Speaker 1: Greek is where we get the word psyche. You look

701
00:28:09,242 --> 00:28:12,002
Speaker 1: at the mind. I mean, I don't think necessarily they

702
00:28:12,161 --> 00:28:16,552
Speaker 1: separated them into such neat little silos as we try

703
00:28:16,572 --> 00:28:18,212
Speaker 1: to do. I think it's more like this is the

704
00:28:18,272 --> 00:28:23,531
Speaker 1: whole of your person. Some commentaries might say like the

705
00:28:23,612 --> 00:28:28,062
Speaker 1: seat of your affections or of your emotions. So what's

706
00:28:28,101 --> 00:28:30,681
Speaker 1: coming out of you, right, what you're thinking about, what

707
00:28:30,702 --> 00:28:33,081
Speaker 1: you're saying. And I think what he says, eventually it

708
00:28:33,141 --> 00:28:36,122
Speaker 1: does come to a point that it leaves.

709
00:28:36,141 --> 00:28:38,352
Speaker 3: And I like the idea of dying something, right? It's

710
00:28:38,392 --> 00:28:39,411
Speaker 3: not like just painting it.

711
00:28:39,922 --> 00:28:41,782
Speaker 1: If you ever try to dye a shirt or something,

712
00:28:41,802 --> 00:28:43,862
Speaker 1: it might take more than one time to get it

713
00:28:43,882 --> 00:28:44,342
Speaker 1: to where you want.

714
00:28:44,282 --> 00:28:46,562
Speaker 2: It to be. You're immersing it in that. And it's indelible.

715
00:28:46,742 --> 00:28:48,222
Speaker 3: And it's over time changing.

716
00:28:48,442 --> 00:28:48,662
Speaker 2: Right.

717
00:28:49,262 --> 00:28:51,642
Speaker 1: And so whether or not that's like, I'm not looking

718
00:28:51,661 --> 00:28:54,892
Speaker 1: for chronic positivity. And my kid would never do that anyway.

719
00:28:54,942 --> 00:28:59,332
Speaker 1: She's too, in a good way, wired for authenticity, right?

720
00:28:59,502 --> 00:28:59,772
Speaker 2: Yeah.

721
00:29:00,152 --> 00:29:03,312
Speaker 1: But when you're wired for authenticity and you recognize that

722
00:29:03,372 --> 00:29:06,532
Speaker 1: life is full of hardship, it's hard not to become

723
00:29:06,652 --> 00:29:07,771
Speaker 1: one who's focused upon.

724
00:29:07,812 --> 00:29:07,952
Speaker 4: Yeah.

725
00:29:08,802 --> 00:29:11,142
Speaker 1: The negative parts around you that you're always, especially when

726
00:29:11,161 --> 00:29:12,961
Speaker 1: your mom and dad are helping you through the negative

727
00:29:13,002 --> 00:29:14,822
Speaker 1: parts and trying to teach you lessons through it as

728
00:29:14,862 --> 00:29:16,242
Speaker 1: you go. I agree.

729
00:29:16,411 --> 00:29:19,052
Speaker 3: It must be exhausting to be in my household.

730
00:29:19,072 --> 00:29:20,432
Speaker 2: No, John. I'm just busting your chops.

731
00:29:20,552 --> 00:29:24,031
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted by myself. The inner message, I know I'm

732
00:29:24,052 --> 00:29:25,712
Speaker 1: too much for everybody and all those things.

733
00:29:25,732 --> 00:29:26,922
Speaker 2: You're not too much, John.

734
00:29:26,942 --> 00:29:27,562
Speaker 1: No, I really am.

735
00:29:27,742 --> 00:29:28,202
Speaker 4: Trust me.

736
00:29:28,562 --> 00:29:32,642
Speaker 1: I can absolutely be. But it's just interesting. I think...

737
00:29:33,512 --> 00:29:37,672
Speaker 1: What I want is to give her Marcus Aurelius' quote

738
00:29:37,692 --> 00:29:41,011
Speaker 1: or whatever for today and her to be like, ah,

739
00:29:41,752 --> 00:29:42,812
Speaker 1: you know what, Dad? That's it.

740
00:29:42,832 --> 00:29:43,702
Speaker 2: You unlocked. Yeah.

741
00:29:44,052 --> 00:29:45,062
Speaker 3: And I think that.

742
00:29:46,742 --> 00:29:49,941
Speaker 1: What I've come to believe, especially I think youth ministry

743
00:29:49,982 --> 00:29:52,822
Speaker 1: really helped with this. I told Laura the other day,

744
00:29:52,842 --> 00:29:55,522
Speaker 1: you realize at 16 or 17, she's not going to

745
00:29:55,542 --> 00:29:59,422
Speaker 1: remember much more that we did that are big things

746
00:29:59,742 --> 00:30:00,282
Speaker 1: before now.

747
00:30:01,342 --> 00:30:02,422
Speaker 3: So we feel exhausted.

748
00:30:02,482 --> 00:30:05,042
Speaker 1: Like we've just been parenting as far as you do,

749
00:30:05,062 --> 00:30:06,542
Speaker 1: you get to a point, you're like, we were giving

750
00:30:06,582 --> 00:30:08,982
Speaker 1: us all we got. And I see parents not give

751
00:30:09,092 --> 00:30:11,552
Speaker 1: up at this stage, but to go, well, now they're right.

752
00:30:11,612 --> 00:30:12,872
Speaker 1: Now they're going to have to figure this out on

753
00:30:12,911 --> 00:30:17,741
Speaker 1: their own. I'm like, no, 18 is nothing. Guys, if

754
00:30:17,762 --> 00:30:20,982
Speaker 1: you don't know this, it's in the data. 18 is

755
00:30:21,022 --> 00:30:23,122
Speaker 1: not some magic number where they're suddenly adults just because

756
00:30:23,142 --> 00:30:24,702
Speaker 1: they owe taxes and can buy cigarettes.

757
00:30:25,262 --> 00:30:27,902
Speaker 2: I think it's 21 for cigarettes, isn't it?

758
00:30:27,902 --> 00:30:29,612
Speaker 1: No, it's 18 for cigarettes, 21 for alcohol.

759
00:30:30,652 --> 00:30:32,132
Speaker 2: So I shouldn't have.

760
00:30:33,852 --> 00:30:35,112
Speaker 1: Been buying cigarettes for those kids.

761
00:30:36,392 --> 00:30:40,021
Speaker 3: It's a 25, you're still, your brain's still developing.

762
00:30:40,042 --> 00:30:41,332
Speaker 1: And so much of the day is like for guys,

763
00:30:41,372 --> 00:30:44,491
Speaker 1: it may be all like to like 27, 28. And

764
00:30:44,532 --> 00:30:47,812
Speaker 1: so I don't want to be meddling to your point forever,

765
00:30:47,892 --> 00:30:48,832
Speaker 1: but I also am not.

766
00:30:49,472 --> 00:30:51,972
Speaker 2: But you are really good at it. I'm not. As we've.

767
00:30:52,272 --> 00:30:55,082
Speaker 1: I can't launch a kid that the world would say,

768
00:30:55,161 --> 00:30:57,602
Speaker 1: she's ready. I mean, I'm looking at kids. We're looking

769
00:30:57,642 --> 00:30:59,781
Speaker 1: at kids all around us who obviously. It's like the

770
00:30:59,842 --> 00:31:02,862
Speaker 1: Bush mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier. That's what it

771
00:31:02,902 --> 00:31:03,802
Speaker 1: basically is when you're like.

772
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:06,202
Speaker 2: Well, we're all good. Yeah.

773
00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:07,232
Speaker 4: Yeah.

774
00:31:07,232 --> 00:31:11,221
Speaker 3: 20 years later. No, I mean, but also giving her

775
00:31:11,262 --> 00:31:11,602
Speaker 3: the freedom.

776
00:31:11,622 --> 00:31:11,952
Speaker 1: And she is.

777
00:31:11,982 --> 00:31:13,742
Speaker 3: She's got a lot more freedom. I love it. She'll

778
00:31:13,782 --> 00:31:16,102
Speaker 3: come home like, hey, I'm heading to Providence. And she'll

779
00:31:16,142 --> 00:31:17,442
Speaker 3: just get in her car and go.

780
00:31:17,462 --> 00:31:17,922
Speaker 2: Yeah.

781
00:31:18,122 --> 00:31:20,322
Speaker 1: And be gone for two hours, you know. Now, am

782
00:31:20,402 --> 00:31:22,681
Speaker 1: I tracking her like a hawk? Johnny, you bet I am.

783
00:31:22,782 --> 00:31:26,502
Speaker 2: You know why? That's real Providence. Some of y'all out here,

784
00:31:26,642 --> 00:31:28,692
Speaker 2: you're letting your daughter go to Providence, but you're not

785
00:31:28,762 --> 00:31:30,132
Speaker 2: counting on the Providence of the Lord.

786
00:31:30,152 --> 00:31:31,802
Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably should have said Providence is a place

787
00:31:31,872 --> 00:31:32,931
Speaker 3: in Mount Judea, like the big mall.

788
00:31:32,952 --> 00:31:33,832
Speaker 2: And a place in Rhode Island.

789
00:31:34,572 --> 00:31:34,971
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is.

790
00:31:34,992 --> 00:31:36,512
Speaker 2: But that's not where she's going. That's not. That's a

791
00:31:36,512 --> 00:31:39,152
Speaker 2: long drive. You're not letting your daughter drive to Rhode Island.

792
00:31:39,192 --> 00:31:41,652
Speaker 2: The battery would run out before I could finish traffic.

793
00:31:41,672 --> 00:31:43,772
Speaker 2: I read the roads are like they rank the roads.

794
00:31:43,812 --> 00:31:45,492
Speaker 2: And I think the roads in Rhode Island are the worst,

795
00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:47,252
Speaker 2: which is kind of funny because it's road in the name.

796
00:31:47,812 --> 00:31:49,612
Speaker 2: But I've heard that. I think it's because it's like the.

797
00:31:50,452 --> 00:31:52,232
Speaker 2: It's a lot of snow. And then they chip up

798
00:31:52,272 --> 00:31:54,702
Speaker 2: all the. It's awful. And it's near the oceans. There's

799
00:31:54,732 --> 00:31:55,082
Speaker 2: all that.

800
00:31:55,842 --> 00:31:56,522
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.

801
00:31:56,582 --> 00:31:57,282
Speaker 2: It's bad roads.

802
00:31:57,302 --> 00:31:58,662
Speaker 3: You do know the road spelled differently.

803
00:32:00,262 --> 00:32:00,502
Speaker 1: Yes.

804
00:32:00,702 --> 00:32:02,462
Speaker 2: Okay. I'm just saying it's a homonym.

805
00:32:02,502 --> 00:32:02,762
Speaker 1: It's a.

806
00:32:02,982 --> 00:32:03,182
Speaker 2: Johnny.

807
00:32:04,322 --> 00:32:05,142
Speaker 3: Do you know anything?

808
00:32:05,322 --> 00:32:07,742
Speaker 2: I'm a Rhodes Scholar. R-O-A-D.

809
00:32:08,542 --> 00:32:10,102
Speaker 1: R-O-A-D.

810
00:32:10,181 --> 00:32:12,702
Speaker 2: That's what they told me on the construction crew. That's funny, Johnny.

811
00:32:13,502 --> 00:32:15,022
Speaker 1: Go to construction crew and then put it.

812
00:32:14,942 --> 00:32:17,562
Speaker 2: In a resume. Rhodes Scholar. I have potholes to fill.

813
00:32:17,702 --> 00:32:20,952
Speaker 2: I am a Rhodes Scholar. And they go, get out.

814
00:32:21,272 --> 00:32:24,112
Speaker 3: Marcus Aurelius, this is your Stoic podcast.

815
00:32:24,372 --> 00:32:24,931
Speaker 1: We're here for you.

816
00:32:25,672 --> 00:32:26,032
Speaker 4: All the.

817
00:32:26,892 --> 00:32:27,491
Speaker 1: I don't know.

818
00:32:27,572 --> 00:32:30,592
Speaker 2: I think I've got some Stoic in me for sure

819
00:32:30,772 --> 00:32:33,092
Speaker 2: in that I... Because people always say that to Curry

820
00:32:33,132 --> 00:32:34,951
Speaker 2: after shows. There's always that person. Oh, we must be

821
00:32:35,032 --> 00:32:36,372
Speaker 2: crazy living with this guy.

822
00:32:36,592 --> 00:32:37,932
Speaker 1: She's constant fun.

823
00:32:38,052 --> 00:32:40,092
Speaker 2: And she knows the truth, which is.

824
00:32:40,452 --> 00:32:42,372
Speaker 3: She's in a literal hell.

825
00:32:42,431 --> 00:32:47,582
Speaker 2: She's not doing so great. No, but it's because I'm very,

826
00:32:48,972 --> 00:32:54,082
Speaker 2: I internalize everything. I overanalyze everything. I overcoach everything. So

827
00:32:54,122 --> 00:32:56,062
Speaker 2: I guess there's a little stoicism in what I do.

828
00:32:56,402 --> 00:32:58,522
Speaker 2: Like Chris Rock talked about that one time. He was like.

829
00:32:59,252 --> 00:33:01,492
Speaker 2: comedians are more depressed, but it's our literal job to

830
00:33:01,532 --> 00:33:03,422
Speaker 2: sit around and think about all this stuff. Like other

831
00:33:03,442 --> 00:33:06,422
Speaker 2: people have hobbies and things they can avoid. Literally our

832
00:33:06,482 --> 00:33:09,002
Speaker 2: hobby and our job is to like, let's take a

833
00:33:09,062 --> 00:33:12,122
Speaker 2: deep dive into this. And so like, no wonder there's

834
00:33:12,142 --> 00:33:15,402
Speaker 2: going to be more like you're literally pondering the meaning

835
00:33:15,422 --> 00:33:17,451
Speaker 2: of things. Yeah. Uh, I'm not trying to make it

836
00:33:17,472 --> 00:33:19,552
Speaker 2: deeper than it is. That's, I always hate when comedians

837
00:33:19,572 --> 00:33:19,852
Speaker 2: do that.

838
00:33:20,052 --> 00:33:21,812
Speaker 3: I felt your job is so important in this world.

839
00:33:21,832 --> 00:33:23,062
Speaker 3: I don't know where it would be.

840
00:33:23,092 --> 00:33:24,732
Speaker 2: Could you just affirm me real quick?

841
00:33:24,892 --> 00:33:27,652
Speaker 1: No, it really is. I mean, actually there's lots of, uh,

842
00:33:28,411 --> 00:33:32,292
Speaker 1: historical data about that. I mean, the artists and those

843
00:33:32,332 --> 00:33:35,612
Speaker 1: who can bring some levity to the difficulty. I mean,

844
00:33:35,852 --> 00:33:36,671
Speaker 1: it really is important.

845
00:33:36,911 --> 00:33:38,472
Speaker 2: I don't do it for them. I do it for myself.

846
00:33:38,592 --> 00:33:39,112
Speaker 3: No, I know.

847
00:33:39,152 --> 00:33:39,792
Speaker 1: And for the money.

848
00:33:39,832 --> 00:33:42,412
Speaker 2: I'm bringing levity to you for cash. Yeah.

849
00:33:42,792 --> 00:33:44,872
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's a lucrative thing we're doing here.

850
00:33:44,992 --> 00:33:48,692
Speaker 2: It's super duper lucrative. John, speaking of levity, let's do

851
00:33:48,732 --> 00:33:50,712
Speaker 2: my segments. Let's start with Johnny's old jokes. We call

852
00:33:50,752 --> 00:33:57,721
Speaker 2: it Joke About That. Joke About That Sometimes I think

853
00:33:57,762 --> 00:33:59,402
Speaker 2: when I set this up, I think people who are

854
00:33:59,442 --> 00:34:01,302
Speaker 2: listening for the first time think that these are my

855
00:34:01,362 --> 00:34:01,722
Speaker 2: old jokes.

856
00:34:01,742 --> 00:34:02,362
Speaker 3: They're not Johnny's jokes.

857
00:34:02,422 --> 00:34:05,202
Speaker 2: It's just Johnny telling old jokes, like what we would

858
00:34:05,242 --> 00:34:09,402
Speaker 2: call street jokes. Yeah. Or like jokey jokes. Yeah. Anyway.

859
00:34:09,942 --> 00:34:11,022
Speaker 3: The kind of jokes I would tell.

860
00:34:11,462 --> 00:34:11,622
Speaker 2: Yeah.

861
00:34:12,181 --> 00:34:13,562
Speaker 3: Right, not the kind that Johnny would write.

862
00:34:13,962 --> 00:34:15,842
Speaker 2: No, yeah, but some of these are pretty clever anyway. No, no.

863
00:34:16,542 --> 00:34:19,502
Speaker 2: A man called his twin brother from prison, John. Hey,

864
00:34:19,562 --> 00:34:21,312
Speaker 2: remember when we were kids and used to finish each

865
00:34:21,352 --> 00:34:21,972
Speaker 2: other's sentences?

866
00:34:23,472 --> 00:34:24,672
Speaker 1: Guys, because of descendants.

867
00:34:25,472 --> 00:34:27,902
Speaker 2: Okay. John, an old man and a 20-year-old are paired

868
00:34:27,942 --> 00:34:29,702
Speaker 2: together at a golf tournament. I like old man and

869
00:34:29,742 --> 00:34:32,032
Speaker 2: young man. Yeah. Old man getting it over on the

870
00:34:32,072 --> 00:34:33,031
Speaker 2: young man kind of jokes.

871
00:34:33,192 --> 00:34:33,752
Speaker 1: Yeah.

872
00:34:33,812 --> 00:34:35,552
Speaker 3: You're liking those more and more every year.

873
00:34:35,612 --> 00:34:38,532
Speaker 2: Yeah. Because I relate more to the old man. City

874
00:34:38,552 --> 00:34:41,772
Speaker 2: slickers getting it over or getting kind of taken advantage

875
00:34:41,812 --> 00:34:43,932
Speaker 2: of by the country bumpkin, you know, the country bumpkin.

876
00:34:44,052 --> 00:34:46,892
Speaker 2: He has the common sense that the city slicker doesn't

877
00:34:46,932 --> 00:34:48,302
Speaker 2: have at the end of the joke. I like those

878
00:34:48,342 --> 00:34:50,582
Speaker 2: kind of jokes. Stick it to those elitists. Well, there's

879
00:34:50,602 --> 00:34:52,462
Speaker 2: like a turn the table. There's like a justice that

880
00:34:52,502 --> 00:34:55,792
Speaker 2: happens in a joke. Anyway, an old man and a

881
00:34:55,792 --> 00:34:58,672
Speaker 2: 20-year-old are paired together at a golf tournament. They're playing

882
00:34:58,712 --> 00:35:01,011
Speaker 2: a long par 5 that doglegs around some tall trees.

883
00:35:01,992 --> 00:35:03,911
Speaker 2: As the 20-year-old sets up his tee shot to hit

884
00:35:04,552 --> 00:35:06,451
Speaker 2: onto the fairway, the old man notes, When I was

885
00:35:06,492 --> 00:35:08,752
Speaker 2: your age, we used to hit over the trees, not

886
00:35:08,792 --> 00:35:12,852
Speaker 2: around to the side. So the 20-year-old readjusts, tries to

887
00:35:12,872 --> 00:35:15,011
Speaker 2: hit over the trees, but can't clear them, loses his ball.

888
00:35:15,072 --> 00:35:17,212
Speaker 2: He tries again, loses that one too. Then the old

889
00:35:17,232 --> 00:35:19,072
Speaker 2: man says, Of course, when I was your age, the

890
00:35:19,112 --> 00:35:25,772
Speaker 2: trees were only six foot tall. Laughter Old people. John, finally,

891
00:35:25,832 --> 00:35:28,482
Speaker 2: my grandfather says to me, when I was a boy,

892
00:35:28,502 --> 00:35:30,522
Speaker 2: you could walk into the grocery store with $ 2 in

893
00:35:30,562 --> 00:35:32,702
Speaker 2: your pocket, walk out with a loaf of bread, a

894
00:35:32,742 --> 00:35:34,962
Speaker 2: dozen eggs, and even a little butter. He says, but now,

895
00:35:35,022 --> 00:35:36,162
Speaker 2: these days, too many cameras.

896
00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:40,482
Speaker 1: See, guys, he's a thief.

897
00:35:40,642 --> 00:35:43,842
Speaker 2: He's a shoplifter in that joke. John, let's do This

898
00:35:43,882 --> 00:35:51,232
Speaker 2: Week in History. We call it Talk About Then. Don't

899
00:35:51,272 --> 00:35:52,072
Speaker 2: shoplift kids.

900
00:35:52,252 --> 00:35:53,431
Speaker 1: No, kids.

901
00:35:53,492 --> 00:35:56,082
Speaker 2: This is not an encouragement. No. We laugh at it

902
00:35:56,122 --> 00:35:57,962
Speaker 2: and we do think it's amusing when old people steal.

903
00:35:57,982 --> 00:35:58,612
Speaker 1: And we do it.

904
00:35:58,822 --> 00:36:00,122
Speaker 2: And we do it, but that's not.

905
00:36:00,142 --> 00:36:01,462
Speaker 3: But it's not something you should do.

906
00:36:01,562 --> 00:36:04,502
Speaker 2: No, we're going to say, do as we say. Right.

907
00:36:05,422 --> 00:36:07,422
Speaker 3: Not as we, I mean, how else are we going

908
00:36:07,442 --> 00:36:08,382
Speaker 3: to afford these microphones?

909
00:36:08,782 --> 00:36:10,281
Speaker 2: Thank you. Which we also stole.

910
00:36:10,302 --> 00:36:11,602
Speaker 4: Yeah.

911
00:36:11,622 --> 00:36:16,462
Speaker 2: John, this week in 1992, the FBI seized the world's

912
00:36:16,502 --> 00:36:17,962
Speaker 2: largest T-Rex skeleton.

913
00:36:17,982 --> 00:36:19,542
Speaker 4: The FBI.

914
00:36:19,562 --> 00:36:22,632
Speaker 2: The FBI. Seized a T-Rex skeleton. Didn't know this story.

915
00:36:22,652 --> 00:36:24,912
Speaker 2: The world's largest Tyrannosaurus Rex skeleton is seized by the

916
00:36:24,932 --> 00:36:27,822
Speaker 2: FBI from the Black Hills Institute of Geological Research, claiming

917
00:36:28,562 --> 00:36:31,722
Speaker 2: it had been illegally taken from federal land. Peter Larson's

918
00:36:31,742 --> 00:36:35,982
Speaker 2: team recovered the nearly complete 67 million year old T-Rex

919
00:36:36,002 --> 00:36:39,432
Speaker 2: skeleton in 1990 in South Dakota. With more than 80%

920
00:36:39,432 --> 00:36:41,132
Speaker 2: of the skeleton recovered, it was the most complete and

921
00:36:41,152 --> 00:36:44,072
Speaker 2: largest T-Rex ever discovered. Even though Larson had negotiated a

922
00:36:44,092 --> 00:36:46,492
Speaker 2: deal with the landowner prior to removing the T-Rex, the

923
00:36:46,512 --> 00:36:49,692
Speaker 2: investigation led to him being in prison for 18 months

924
00:36:49,832 --> 00:36:53,192
Speaker 2: on unrelated charges of fossil theft, money laundering, and making

925
00:36:53,272 --> 00:36:56,852
Speaker 2: false statements to government agencies. Those feel like related.

926
00:36:56,872 --> 00:36:58,832
Speaker 3: Wait, he had another unrelated charge.

927
00:36:58,612 --> 00:37:01,471
Speaker 2: Of fossil theft? Those feel like related charges, yeah. Also, sir.

928
00:37:01,492 --> 00:37:04,272
Speaker 2: These other fossils you got in your trunk. Let's have

929
00:37:04,292 --> 00:37:09,362
Speaker 2: a talk about this. Mosquito in amber or whatever. We

930
00:37:09,382 --> 00:37:13,382
Speaker 2: spared no expense. The owner of the land, who originally

931
00:37:13,442 --> 00:37:16,522
Speaker 2: agreed to a $ 5, 000 fee for the skeleton, so this

932
00:37:16,582 --> 00:37:20,442
Speaker 2: guy was way lowballed. Yeah, whatever you find, five grand, sure.

933
00:37:20,462 --> 00:37:20,902
Speaker 4: Wow.

934
00:37:21,662 --> 00:37:23,082
Speaker 2: Evidently, he didn't even own the land because it was

935
00:37:23,102 --> 00:37:29,052
Speaker 2: federal land. He eventually received $ 7. 6 million from its auction

936
00:37:29,092 --> 00:37:32,392
Speaker 2: and is now on display. It is now, not he's

937
00:37:32,432 --> 00:37:36,612
Speaker 2: on display. The Tyrannosaurus Rex is now on display at Chicago's...

938
00:37:36,632 --> 00:37:38,332
Speaker 2: It would be weird to display the man.

939
00:37:38,552 --> 00:37:39,472
Speaker 3: He's just holding money.

940
00:37:39,552 --> 00:37:40,681
Speaker 1: Like, get me out of here.

941
00:37:40,732 --> 00:37:41,502
Speaker 2: It's not worth it.

942
00:37:41,502 --> 00:37:43,562
Speaker 1: It's like some sort of Greek mythology.

943
00:37:43,582 --> 00:37:47,702
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a Twilight Zone episode. It's now on

944
00:37:47,722 --> 00:37:49,982
Speaker 2: display at Chicago's Field Museum, which I didn't know was

945
00:37:50,022 --> 00:37:51,682
Speaker 2: a thing. But there's a T-Rex.

946
00:37:51,722 --> 00:37:52,642
Speaker 3: I can't understand, though.

947
00:37:52,662 --> 00:37:55,892
Speaker 2: If it's federal land, how did this guy get paid?

948
00:37:57,332 --> 00:38:00,212
Speaker 2: I don't know 100% what's going on here.

949
00:38:00,252 --> 00:38:01,952
Speaker 3: Was he the federal government?

950
00:38:03,072 --> 00:38:03,312
Speaker 4: Guys.

951
00:38:03,772 --> 00:38:05,862
Speaker 2: Sometimes I do more research on these to figure out

952
00:38:05,922 --> 00:38:09,282
Speaker 2: more because we're pulling these from some place, but I

953
00:38:09,322 --> 00:38:10,842
Speaker 2: feel like there's something else.

954
00:38:10,862 --> 00:38:13,642
Speaker 1: I think we need to call the FBI. Maybe they

955
00:38:13,662 --> 00:38:14,202
Speaker 1: made a mistake.

956
00:38:14,242 --> 00:38:17,962
Speaker 2: They would never lie. John, by the way, if you

957
00:38:18,002 --> 00:38:20,682
Speaker 2: find something on your property, evidently you get to keep it.

958
00:38:20,732 --> 00:38:23,052
Speaker 2: So have you ever thought about maybe looking around your

959
00:38:23,092 --> 00:38:26,012
Speaker 2: land for old relics? Have you ever been a metal

960
00:38:26,032 --> 00:38:26,612
Speaker 2: detector guy?

961
00:38:27,212 --> 00:38:30,292
Speaker 3: I have before. You know where they sold a metal detector?

962
00:38:31,292 --> 00:38:31,962
Speaker 1: Harbor Freight.

963
00:38:32,002 --> 00:38:34,672
Speaker 2: It's probably a I almost bought one. The most quality.

964
00:38:34,712 --> 00:38:36,192
Speaker 3: Because I watch Curse of Oak Island.

965
00:38:36,632 --> 00:38:38,812
Speaker 2: Right. Well, did you ever find.

966
00:38:38,832 --> 00:38:39,212
Speaker 1: Gary Drayden.

967
00:38:39,232 --> 00:38:41,232
Speaker 2: But you used to like... Okay, tell me this. You

968
00:38:41,272 --> 00:38:43,002
Speaker 2: used to weed eat. Did you ever find... What's the

969
00:38:43,022 --> 00:38:44,902
Speaker 2: most interesting thing you ever found while weed eating with

970
00:38:44,922 --> 00:38:45,142
Speaker 2: your dad?

971
00:38:45,162 --> 00:38:46,762
Speaker 1: It wasn't while weed eating. The most interesting thing I

972
00:38:46,762 --> 00:38:50,161
Speaker 1: ever found was when we were building this building and

973
00:38:50,212 --> 00:38:54,312
Speaker 1: we were digging with a ditch witch. Like a four-foot

974
00:38:54,452 --> 00:38:56,932
Speaker 1: trench down here for all of the utilities that were

975
00:38:56,962 --> 00:38:58,442
Speaker 1: going to come in on the backside of the property.

976
00:38:59,162 --> 00:39:02,661
Speaker 1: And I found an old chain. I'm assuming, I mean,

977
00:39:02,722 --> 00:39:05,402
Speaker 1: I keep it in my garage, but it's like really old.

978
00:39:05,442 --> 00:39:06,942
Speaker 1: It's like perfectly round.

979
00:39:08,122 --> 00:39:08,622
Speaker 2: Oh, links.

980
00:39:08,662 --> 00:39:12,011
Speaker 1: And then it has narrow link, perfectly round, narrow link.

981
00:39:12,592 --> 00:39:15,112
Speaker 1: So it's like obviously older than anything that I've ever seen.

982
00:39:15,152 --> 00:39:17,092
Speaker 1: And I took a picture the other day and tried

983
00:39:17,112 --> 00:39:19,471
Speaker 1: to reverse Google image to see if I could find

984
00:39:19,532 --> 00:39:20,372
Speaker 1: out its date.

985
00:39:20,392 --> 00:39:21,412
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, nothing came up.

986
00:39:21,432 --> 00:39:21,792
Speaker 4: No, not yet.

987
00:39:23,342 --> 00:39:28,072
Speaker 2: It was before they perfected the design of a chain. Yeah.

988
00:39:28,092 --> 00:39:29,832
Speaker 2: Why would there be a round length and an oval

989
00:39:29,852 --> 00:39:32,252
Speaker 2: length and a round length and an oval length? Humpback, humpback,

990
00:39:32,292 --> 00:39:33,112
Speaker 2: crooked letter, crooked letter.

991
00:39:33,792 --> 00:39:36,052
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm assuming obviously it was for,

992
00:39:36,372 --> 00:39:37,952
Speaker 1: you know, oxen.

993
00:39:37,972 --> 00:39:39,312
Speaker 2: We don't know what. Oxen?

994
00:39:39,652 --> 00:39:40,272
Speaker 1: Maybe. I don't know.

995
00:39:40,972 --> 00:39:42,232
Speaker 2: Are there oxen in this part of it?

996
00:39:42,232 --> 00:39:43,602
Speaker 4: I don't know.

997
00:39:43,622 --> 00:39:45,362
Speaker 1: They do oxen on Cursebook Island.

998
00:39:45,582 --> 00:39:54,761
Speaker 2: John, speaking of pack animals, this week... 1856, American naval

999
00:39:54,802 --> 00:39:58,122
Speaker 2: officer David Dixon Porter arrived in Texas with a shipload

1000
00:39:58,422 --> 00:40:02,992
Speaker 2: of camels from Turkey. These were the first camels imported

1001
00:40:03,012 --> 00:40:06,462
Speaker 2: to the U.S. for commercial purposes. okay during the westward

1002
00:40:06,482 --> 00:40:08,982
Speaker 2: expansion of the united states military forces were looking for

1003
00:40:09,022 --> 00:40:13,562
Speaker 2: ways to ease transportation uh in arid regions throughout the

1004
00:40:13,582 --> 00:40:15,982
Speaker 2: early 19th century various proposals were made for camels to

1005
00:40:16,002 --> 00:40:19,241
Speaker 2: be used as pack animals with a proposal by then

1006
00:40:19,302 --> 00:40:23,122
Speaker 2: secretary of war jefferson davis finally being approved in 1856

1007
00:40:23,122 --> 00:40:26,572
Speaker 2: with a budget of thirty thousand dollars In an experiment

1008
00:40:26,592 --> 00:40:30,252
Speaker 2: that would later become known as the Camel Corps, the

1009
00:40:30,292 --> 00:40:34,032
Speaker 2: process of acquiring camels began around the Mediterranean. Eventually, 70

1010
00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:36,792
Speaker 2: were procured. The project was originally a success, but due

1011
00:40:36,812 --> 00:40:38,911
Speaker 2: to the American Civil War, it was largely abandoned, with

1012
00:40:38,952 --> 00:40:43,592
Speaker 2: many supporters, like Jefferson Davis, joining the Confederacy. The camels

1013
00:40:43,632 --> 00:40:46,112
Speaker 2: were sold off or abandoned, with some being seen for

1014
00:40:46,152 --> 00:40:48,482
Speaker 2: decades after. So these camels were just like, eh, we're

1015
00:40:48,522 --> 00:40:50,362
Speaker 2: not in age anymore. But then they're just released into

1016
00:40:50,402 --> 00:40:55,982
Speaker 2: the ecosystem. And this is why it makes the list, because...

1017
00:40:56,312 --> 00:40:59,212
Speaker 2: They were being seen for decades afterwards, and in 1883,

1018
00:40:59,212 --> 00:41:01,192
Speaker 2: one of the camels from the military that ended up

1019
00:41:01,792 --> 00:41:05,681
Speaker 2: in the wild is believed to have inspired the Arizona

1020
00:41:05,912 --> 00:41:10,322
Speaker 2: stories of the Red Ghost, which was a large red

1021
00:41:10,402 --> 00:41:15,122
Speaker 2: camel with a bleached human skeleton riding on its back.

1022
00:41:15,682 --> 00:41:18,022
Speaker 2: Tales of the Red Ghost spread throughout Arizona and grew

1023
00:41:18,062 --> 00:41:20,422
Speaker 2: taller each time the stories were told, with the Red

1024
00:41:20,462 --> 00:41:23,312
Speaker 2: Ghost being 30 foot tall and killing and eating a

1025
00:41:23,332 --> 00:41:26,332
Speaker 2: grizzly bear in some stories. The sightings continued for 10

1026
00:41:26,332 --> 00:41:34,752
Speaker 2: years until 1893 when former farmer Mizzou Hastings, which what

1027
00:41:34,792 --> 00:41:35,712
Speaker 2: a great farmer name.

1028
00:41:35,772 --> 00:41:36,112
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1029
00:41:36,352 --> 00:41:41,562
Speaker 2: Mizzou. Old man Mizzou Hastings shot the red ghost. He

1030
00:41:41,682 --> 00:41:44,922
Speaker 2: saw a creature eating in his yard and proceeded to

1031
00:41:44,982 --> 00:41:46,562
Speaker 2: shoot it, killing it in a single shot. It was

1032
00:41:46,582 --> 00:41:49,122
Speaker 2: then discovered that the beast was a camel with leather

1033
00:41:49,142 --> 00:41:52,162
Speaker 2: straps on the side, stuck so tight that it was scarred.

1034
00:41:52,182 --> 00:41:52,442
Speaker 4: Hmm.

1035
00:41:53,032 --> 00:41:58,392
Speaker 2: The remains of an unknown dead man were attached to

1036
00:41:58,412 --> 00:41:59,352
Speaker 2: the back of the camel.

1037
00:41:59,852 --> 00:42:00,472
Speaker 3: You're kidding.

1038
00:42:00,932 --> 00:42:04,152
Speaker 2: However, various tales have appeared to explain it over the years.

1039
00:42:04,232 --> 00:42:07,661
Speaker 2: Some say it was a prospector dying of thirst who

1040
00:42:07,702 --> 00:42:09,422
Speaker 2: tied himself to the back, hoping that it would bring

1041
00:42:09,462 --> 00:42:10,882
Speaker 2: him to some water, while others say it was a

1042
00:42:10,942 --> 00:42:13,482
Speaker 2: soldier learning to ride a camel when it suddenly bolted off.

1043
00:42:14,082 --> 00:42:16,802
Speaker 2: The verifiability of some parts of the legend remain questionable,

1044
00:42:16,982 --> 00:42:19,402
Speaker 2: as stated. Some records are missing or have been lost

1045
00:42:19,522 --> 00:42:21,922
Speaker 2: over time. But the Red Ghost, the legend of the lore.

1046
00:42:21,942 --> 00:42:23,432
Speaker 3: So they really were seeing a dead guy on the

1047
00:42:23,442 --> 00:42:24,472
Speaker 3: back of a camel all that time.

1048
00:42:24,492 --> 00:42:26,332
Speaker 2: And they were like, it's a ghost. And of course,

1049
00:42:26,352 --> 00:42:29,812
Speaker 2: the tails, you know, it was 80 feet tall and

1050
00:42:29,832 --> 00:42:33,632
Speaker 2: he was a foot. Wow. But somebody, he shot the camel.

1051
00:42:33,952 --> 00:42:35,332
Speaker 3: It was like shooting Sasquatch.

1052
00:42:35,812 --> 00:42:35,971
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1053
00:42:36,272 --> 00:42:36,962
Speaker 1: Like it.

1054
00:42:36,992 --> 00:42:39,372
Speaker 2: You could have just. I mean, it's just, I mean,

1055
00:42:39,472 --> 00:42:41,012
Speaker 2: there's no way that camel was a threat.

1056
00:42:41,032 --> 00:42:41,412
Speaker 1: No.

1057
00:42:41,432 --> 00:42:43,892
Speaker 2: But maybe he was the harbinger of the weird skeleton

1058
00:42:43,932 --> 00:42:44,122
Speaker 2: on him.

1059
00:42:44,142 --> 00:42:46,322
Speaker 1: Well, if you thought it was the, you saw a

1060
00:42:46,422 --> 00:42:48,362
Speaker 1: dead guy on the back of a camel, you're probably thinking,

1061
00:42:48,502 --> 00:42:50,422
Speaker 1: shoot now and ask questions of the camel later.

1062
00:42:50,662 --> 00:42:53,822
Speaker 2: Yeah. Don't mess around. He already ate a grizzly bear

1063
00:42:53,842 --> 00:42:55,262
Speaker 2: in one of the stories.

1064
00:42:55,282 --> 00:42:55,702
Speaker 1: No kidding.

1065
00:42:55,982 --> 00:42:56,842
Speaker 2: Killed the red ghost.

1066
00:42:57,122 --> 00:42:57,362
Speaker 1: Wow.

1067
00:42:57,522 --> 00:42:58,912
Speaker 2: That's a bummer. Have you ever ridden on a camel?

1068
00:42:59,332 --> 00:42:59,772
Speaker 1: I have not.

1069
00:43:00,252 --> 00:43:02,212
Speaker 2: I think, I'm trying to remember where I was at

1070
00:43:02,232 --> 00:43:04,802
Speaker 2: that they had camel rides. because I mean, it was

1071
00:43:05,022 --> 00:43:07,202
Speaker 2: obviously some, it was probably at a zoo or something.

1072
00:43:07,222 --> 00:43:07,602
Speaker 2: They're like, I.

1073
00:43:09,122 --> 00:43:09,602
Speaker 1: Don't know.

1074
00:43:09,662 --> 00:43:11,122
Speaker 2: It was on the circus. You know, you used to

1075
00:43:11,142 --> 00:43:12,992
Speaker 2: be able to ride elephants and stuff. Yeah. So I'm

1076
00:43:13,012 --> 00:43:14,852
Speaker 2: thinking it might've been one of those kind of ringing,

1077
00:43:15,072 --> 00:43:16,272
Speaker 2: ringling brothers situation.

1078
00:43:16,332 --> 00:43:18,152
Speaker 1: I bet Roy Stone, our friend would have so many,

1079
00:43:18,192 --> 00:43:19,112
Speaker 1: he would have.

1080
00:43:19,012 --> 00:43:21,292
Speaker 2: A camel story. Yeah. He probably knew about the red ghost.

1081
00:43:21,372 --> 00:43:21,832
Speaker 1: Probably did.

1082
00:43:22,492 --> 00:43:24,432
Speaker 2: They're like, there was a skeleton. He's like, you mean Dave?

1083
00:43:24,662 --> 00:43:27,042
Speaker 2: Like he knew, he knew the guy. No, he wouldn't

1084
00:43:27,062 --> 00:43:27,982
Speaker 2: have known the guy. It was 1800.

1085
00:43:27,982 --> 00:43:28,242
Speaker 4: That's funny.

1086
00:43:28,282 --> 00:43:34,972
Speaker 2: John, this week, 1985, the world record, world record for

1087
00:43:35,052 --> 00:43:40,472
Speaker 2: motionless was set by William Fuqua who sat 24 hours

1088
00:43:40,532 --> 00:43:43,452
Speaker 2: on a motorcycle. I don't know. This one made the

1089
00:43:43,472 --> 00:43:47,992
Speaker 2: list because he did what? He sat motionless while Guinness

1090
00:43:48,172 --> 00:43:49,031
Speaker 2: counted off the hours.

1091
00:43:49,052 --> 00:43:50,232
Speaker 3: But the motorcycle wasn't moving.

1092
00:43:50,892 --> 00:43:51,052
Speaker 2: No.

1093
00:43:52,232 --> 00:43:52,752
Speaker 3: This is it.

1094
00:43:53,632 --> 00:43:55,982
Speaker 2: Why would you choose a motorcycle to set your record on?

1095
00:43:56,712 --> 00:43:59,102
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a really uncomfortable place to sit 24 hours.

1096
00:43:59,662 --> 00:44:02,242
Speaker 2: When I had my scooter, which I just want to

1097
00:44:02,302 --> 00:44:04,762
Speaker 2: say for the record, this was a It was an

1098
00:44:04,822 --> 00:44:06,762
Speaker 2: automatic motorcycle, basically. It was a twist and go, but

1099
00:44:06,822 --> 00:44:08,242
Speaker 2: it would go 100 miles an hour. It was a

1100
00:44:08,262 --> 00:44:08,842
Speaker 2: big scooter.

1101
00:44:08,862 --> 00:44:10,042
Speaker 3: The positioning of your feet was the problem.

1102
00:44:10,402 --> 00:44:10,741
Speaker 4: I know.

1103
00:44:10,762 --> 00:44:12,292
Speaker 2: I'm sitting like a little kid at his desk.

1104
00:44:12,312 --> 00:44:13,031
Speaker 1: Hey, everybody.

1105
00:44:13,092 --> 00:44:13,491
Speaker 2: Hey, hey.

1106
00:44:13,892 --> 00:44:15,872
Speaker 1: That was your horn. We ain't coming.

1107
00:44:17,412 --> 00:44:17,632
Speaker 2: Sorry.

1108
00:44:18,512 --> 00:44:19,372
Speaker 1: You're very masculine.

1109
00:44:19,432 --> 00:44:22,312
Speaker 2: At any rate, I remember being on that for 45 minutes.

1110
00:44:22,372 --> 00:44:24,372
Speaker 2: My butt would go numb. You get numb bum.

1111
00:44:24,512 --> 00:44:27,322
Speaker 1: See, to me, 24 hours was not long enough for

1112
00:44:27,362 --> 00:44:28,082
Speaker 1: this record.

1113
00:44:27,882 --> 00:44:30,161
Speaker 2: To be set. That's why I don't let you guess anymore,

1114
00:44:30,182 --> 00:44:32,142
Speaker 2: because you'd be like, five days, and then I'd look

1115
00:44:32,162 --> 00:44:35,181
Speaker 2: like an idiot saying 24 hours was the record. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're literally doing nothing. It sounds like a dream. If

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00:44:39,672 --> 00:44:42,512
Speaker 2: you were going to sit motionless, though, wouldn't you be like,

1118
00:44:42,672 --> 00:44:44,332
Speaker 2: all right, get Guinness out here. I'm going to get

1119
00:44:44,372 --> 00:44:47,142
Speaker 2: my recliner and hunker down and put on Netflix.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:44:48,142 --> 00:44:49,181
Speaker 3: Well, then you can't move your.

1122
00:44:49,202 --> 00:44:49,822
Speaker 1: Eyes either, right?

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00:44:50,322 --> 00:44:54,242
Speaker 2: I don't know. How do they categorize motionlessness?

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Speaker 3: Do you know when you go to the dentist now,

1125
00:44:56,522 --> 00:44:57,932
Speaker 3: there's always a TV on the ceiling?

1126
00:44:58,112 --> 00:44:58,392
Speaker 2: Uh-huh.

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00:44:58,552 --> 00:44:59,092
Speaker 3: That's the way.

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00:44:59,352 --> 00:45:01,812
Speaker 2: Wait a minute. There's a TV on the ceiling at

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00:45:01,832 --> 00:45:03,632
Speaker 2: your dentist? Yeah. No, there's not one at mine.

1130
00:45:03,692 --> 00:45:03,931
Speaker 1: Really?

1131
00:45:04,112 --> 00:45:04,552
Speaker 2: You got the.

1132
00:45:04,772 --> 00:45:06,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like playing.

1133
00:45:06,672 --> 00:45:07,972
Speaker 1: I remember that other day.

1134
00:45:07,992 --> 00:45:11,232
Speaker 2: I think you're just getting the good drugs. They're just like...

1135
00:45:11,112 --> 00:45:11,992
Speaker 2: You're like, change the channel.

1136
00:45:12,012 --> 00:45:12,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, change the channel.

1137
00:45:12,632 --> 00:45:14,632
Speaker 2: They're like, sir. Yeah, there's the... There is no TV.

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00:45:14,632 --> 00:45:16,292
Speaker 2: Sure we did. What are you seeing now, buddy?

1139
00:45:16,312 --> 00:45:19,362
Speaker 3: The calls are coming from inside the TV. No, there

1140
00:45:19,382 --> 00:45:19,802
Speaker 3: really is.

1141
00:45:20,282 --> 00:45:21,241
Speaker 2: TV on the ceiling.

1142
00:45:21,262 --> 00:45:22,322
Speaker 3: They had Game Show Network on.

1143
00:45:22,322 --> 00:45:22,862
Speaker 1: That's what they had.

1144
00:45:23,162 --> 00:45:27,622
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. What was the game show? Was it a

1145
00:45:27,682 --> 00:45:28,402
Speaker 2: dentist related?

1146
00:45:28,422 --> 00:45:28,822
Speaker 1: Name that too.

1147
00:45:28,822 --> 00:45:33,952
Speaker 2: $ 100, 000.

1148
00:45:30,532 --> 00:45:33,772
Speaker 1: pyramid.

1149
00:45:33,852 --> 00:45:36,411
Speaker 2: That's a high-end dentist that you're... You know they're rolling

1150
00:45:36,432 --> 00:45:37,432
Speaker 2: that into your bill.

1151
00:45:38,512 --> 00:45:41,752
Speaker 1: I think if you look at me, you know that

1152
00:45:41,812 --> 00:45:45,602
Speaker 1: guy goes to a high-end dentist. There's no doubt.

1153
00:45:46,162 --> 00:45:52,042
Speaker 2: John, finally this week, 1993, this story's just called Hair

1154
00:45:52,102 --> 00:45:53,882
Speaker 2: Force One. Do you want to take a guess of

1155
00:45:54,942 --> 00:45:59,002
Speaker 2: what happened in 1993 to lead to that headline? 1993

1156
00:45:59,002 --> 00:46:04,522
Speaker 2: would have been Clinton? Clinton. U.S. President Bill Clinton tied

1157
00:46:04,622 --> 00:46:08,912
Speaker 2: up Los Angeles International Airport while he got a $ 200

1158
00:46:08,872 --> 00:46:12,232
Speaker 2: haircut aboard an Air Force One jet on the runway. Wow.

1159
00:46:12,472 --> 00:46:15,072
Speaker 2: So basically, you know, everything has to stop until the

1160
00:46:15,112 --> 00:46:17,572
Speaker 2: president takes off because it clears the airspace. And he

1161
00:46:17,612 --> 00:46:22,132
Speaker 2: was like, and he got a haircut. Why didn't he just?

1162
00:46:22,252 --> 00:46:26,092
Speaker 2: What's the most expensive haircut you've ever gotten? Oh. It's

1163
00:46:26,152 --> 00:46:26,582
Speaker 2: a great clip.

1164
00:46:26,642 --> 00:46:27,252
Speaker 3: It's hard to remember.

1165
00:46:27,272 --> 00:46:28,542
Speaker 2: It's been a while. Yeah, it's been a minute.

1166
00:46:28,762 --> 00:46:30,182
Speaker 1: I mean, 50 bucks maybe?

1167
00:46:30,202 --> 00:46:30,562
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1168
00:46:30,762 --> 00:46:32,082
Speaker 1: I mean, that'd be really tops.

1169
00:46:32,402 --> 00:46:33,302
Speaker 2: If you had a coupon.

1170
00:46:33,782 --> 00:46:34,122
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1171
00:46:34,442 --> 00:46:36,122
Speaker 3: I don't know. I still feel again that hair is

1172
00:46:36,182 --> 00:46:37,242
Speaker 3: wasted on the young.

1173
00:46:37,882 --> 00:46:39,542
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, you're right about that.

1174
00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:44,112
Speaker 1: Those who don't want to deal with the scathing shame

1175
00:46:44,152 --> 00:46:46,252
Speaker 1: of baldness. But, I mean, has it made me a

1176
00:46:46,272 --> 00:46:48,352
Speaker 1: better person? The Stoics would say yes.

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00:46:49,352 --> 00:46:51,372
Speaker 2: You're sitting in the hairlessness.

1178
00:46:52,062 --> 00:46:52,212
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1179
00:46:52,232 --> 00:46:52,312
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1180
00:46:52,992 --> 00:46:54,002
Speaker 3: I don't run from it.

1181
00:46:54,012 --> 00:46:54,412
Speaker 4: No.

1182
00:46:54,432 --> 00:46:55,692
Speaker 3: I'm not one of those people on the billboards.

1183
00:46:55,832 --> 00:46:57,632
Speaker 1: I'll see the people on the billboards with the before

1184
00:46:57,652 --> 00:46:58,132
Speaker 1: and the after.

1185
00:46:58,152 --> 00:46:58,232
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1186
00:46:59,032 --> 00:47:00,732
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't think you could pay me

1187
00:47:00,772 --> 00:47:02,202
Speaker 3: enough to be the guy that used the before and

1188
00:47:02,212 --> 00:47:02,582
Speaker 3: the after.

1189
00:47:02,622 --> 00:47:06,082
Speaker 1: And the before is almost like they made sure they

1190
00:47:06,142 --> 00:47:07,142
Speaker 1: gave them bad news.

1191
00:47:08,262 --> 00:47:08,362
Speaker 2: Right.

1192
00:47:08,382 --> 00:47:09,362
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like, hey.

1193
00:47:10,082 --> 00:47:11,832
Speaker 1: Sorry about this, but right before we take this picture,

1194
00:47:11,962 --> 00:47:13,112
Speaker 1: we just got a call from your wife.

1195
00:47:13,852 --> 00:47:17,392
Speaker 3: Your dog was kidnapped by whatever. And they're like, I mean,

1196
00:47:17,412 --> 00:47:20,172
Speaker 3: they look awful. It's like, you can make anybody look better.

1197
00:47:20,192 --> 00:47:21,912
Speaker 1: If they just would have done the same hair and

1198
00:47:21,962 --> 00:47:23,982
Speaker 1: just had him not think his dog died or something.

1199
00:47:24,142 --> 00:47:26,181
Speaker 2: But then you have those billboards. I was in Chicago recently,

1200
00:47:26,202 --> 00:47:31,672
Speaker 2: and the most famous hair transplant person who just owned

1201
00:47:31,732 --> 00:47:33,032
Speaker 2: it and was like, I'm going to just, this is

1202
00:47:33,052 --> 00:47:34,832
Speaker 2: going to be my thing. That was Brian Urlacher. Brian

1203
00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:36,712
Speaker 2: Urlacher was like, he would just shave his head as

1204
00:47:36,732 --> 00:47:38,572
Speaker 2: he was losing his hair throughout his career as a,

1205
00:47:38,692 --> 00:47:40,392
Speaker 2: you know, hall of fame linebacker with the Chicago bears.

1206
00:47:40,852 --> 00:47:42,252
Speaker 2: He just shaved it all. And so he just had

1207
00:47:42,272 --> 00:47:44,602
Speaker 2: a bald head. Anytime you'd see a photo. And then

1208
00:47:44,702 --> 00:47:47,282
Speaker 2: one day he just had like, boom, like full head

1209
00:47:47,302 --> 00:47:49,522
Speaker 2: of hair. And he just was like, yeah, I did

1210
00:47:49,562 --> 00:47:52,282
Speaker 2: it at this clinic and they're amazing guys. And it

1211
00:47:52,322 --> 00:47:54,842
Speaker 2: took this many procedures. And now he's like their spokesperson

1212
00:47:54,862 --> 00:47:58,562
Speaker 2: for the last decade or more. And the billboards, very

1213
00:47:58,602 --> 00:48:01,472
Speaker 2: clever link. as you go through, what do you want to,

1214
00:48:01,472 --> 00:48:03,392
Speaker 2: what do you want to think the billboard said? Brian

1215
00:48:03,432 --> 00:48:06,182
Speaker 2: Erlacher's picture, such and such clinic.

1216
00:48:06,502 --> 00:48:07,082
Speaker 3: Duh hair.

1217
00:48:07,502 --> 00:48:07,942
Speaker 2: Duh hairs.

1218
00:48:08,122 --> 00:48:08,562
Speaker 3: Did I get it?

1219
00:48:08,822 --> 00:48:11,942
Speaker 2: Duh hairs. Look at that. Yeah. I was like this guy.

1220
00:48:12,242 --> 00:48:12,502
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1221
00:48:12,522 --> 00:48:13,882
Speaker 2: But it's like, he just, you know what I'm saying?

1222
00:48:13,922 --> 00:48:16,062
Speaker 2: So you could be that guy. Would you ever, if

1223
00:48:16,082 --> 00:48:18,072
Speaker 2: you just showed up one day with hair, man, that

1224
00:48:18,092 --> 00:48:19,752
Speaker 2: would be, it would be so jarring.

1225
00:48:19,792 --> 00:48:20,652
Speaker 1: It would be jarring.

1226
00:48:21,372 --> 00:48:25,962
Speaker 2: Um, and then your wife would have to admit like, See,

1227
00:48:26,002 --> 00:48:27,562
Speaker 2: she swears up a dime. I said that.

1228
00:48:27,642 --> 00:48:28,992
Speaker 3: I was like, honey, I could go get it. She goes,

1229
00:48:29,112 --> 00:48:30,312
Speaker 3: I really actually like it better.

1230
00:48:30,332 --> 00:48:31,172
Speaker 2: No, I think you do look better.

1231
00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:34,592
Speaker 1: It looks better than certainly the two or three years

1232
00:48:34,672 --> 00:48:37,032
Speaker 1: between when I was hanging on.

1233
00:48:37,252 --> 00:48:37,431
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1234
00:48:37,652 --> 00:48:39,112
Speaker 3: I should have taken it. I didn't know it was

1235
00:48:39,132 --> 00:48:39,692
Speaker 3: under there, Johnny.

1236
00:48:40,012 --> 00:48:40,832
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was under there.

1237
00:48:40,852 --> 00:48:41,332
Speaker 2: How could you know?

1238
00:48:41,592 --> 00:48:42,012
Speaker 1: Couldn't know.

1239
00:48:42,232 --> 00:48:44,491
Speaker 2: I got like a bump here. So if my hairline

1240
00:48:44,512 --> 00:48:47,411
Speaker 2: ever gets to like right here, it's over for me

1241
00:48:47,472 --> 00:48:49,252
Speaker 2: because I would have to have that sanded off or

1242
00:48:49,272 --> 00:48:51,352
Speaker 2: whatever you do. I'd have to go get that. They

1243
00:48:51,372 --> 00:48:55,292
Speaker 2: don't do that. There's not a sanding procedure.

1244
00:48:55,312 --> 00:48:58,152
Speaker 3: That's a lobotomy, sir. That little bump, that's your brain.

1245
00:48:59,772 --> 00:49:01,772
Speaker 1: You're going to want to keep on. Hold on to that.

1246
00:49:01,812 --> 00:49:03,242
Speaker 1: That's important.

1247
00:49:04,342 --> 00:49:07,202
Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you giving us your brains today, dear listeners.

1248
00:49:07,702 --> 00:49:09,302
Speaker 2: If you wanted to learn more about the show or

1249
00:49:09,422 --> 00:49:10,862
Speaker 2: find old episodes, John, where would you go?

1250
00:49:10,942 --> 00:49:13,382
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1251
00:49:13,382 --> 00:49:16,502
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1254
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1255
00:49:22,382 --> 00:49:26,102
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1256
00:49:26,302 --> 00:49:28,142
Speaker 1: Yeah. Guys, Johnny W.

1257
00:49:28,162 --> 00:49:29,262
Speaker 2: I mean.

1258
00:49:29,682 --> 00:49:31,642
Speaker 1: He would not want me to say this, but especially

1259
00:49:31,662 --> 00:49:33,302
Speaker 1: with some of these latest viral videos.

1260
00:49:33,342 --> 00:49:33,642
Speaker 2: Louder.

1261
00:49:33,762 --> 00:49:36,422
Speaker 1: The dude's just blowing up all over the country.

1262
00:49:36,662 --> 00:49:37,342
Speaker 2: So, louder.

1263
00:49:37,362 --> 00:49:37,862
Speaker 4: Let's say it.

1264
00:49:38,922 --> 00:49:41,262
Speaker 1: We shot this part five times until I got it right.

1265
00:49:41,602 --> 00:49:43,142
Speaker 1: But no, you should go check out a Johnny W.

1266
00:49:43,162 --> 00:49:43,312
Speaker 2: Show.

1267
00:49:43,332 --> 00:49:45,132
Speaker 3: If you've never been to a live show, guys, seriously,

1268
00:49:45,152 --> 00:49:47,292
Speaker 3: I laugh the whole time. And I know most of

1269
00:49:47,312 --> 00:49:47,652
Speaker 3: the jokes.

1270
00:49:47,672 --> 00:49:49,812
Speaker 2: I'm like an idiot. I'm like, man, that man.

1271
00:49:49,832 --> 00:49:52,392
Speaker 1: Please get that guy. And I'm not even faking that.

1272
00:49:52,952 --> 00:49:55,702
Speaker 2: Guys. We just added three more shows at uh my

1273
00:49:55,772 --> 00:49:58,782
Speaker 2: home club uh zany's at a room they have called

1274
00:49:58,802 --> 00:50:01,982
Speaker 2: the lab we're doing a monthly johnny w and friends

1275
00:50:02,002 --> 00:50:04,442
Speaker 2: i've already got some of my friends lined up to

1276
00:50:04,462 --> 00:50:05,942
Speaker 2: come do the show with me and working out some

1277
00:50:05,982 --> 00:50:09,742
Speaker 2: new material and the first one is june 3rd at

1278
00:50:09,862 --> 00:50:14,392
Speaker 2: zany's So go to my website, johnnyw.com, to get tickets

1279
00:50:14,412 --> 00:50:16,132
Speaker 2: for that. And there's one in July, and there'll be

1280
00:50:16,152 --> 00:50:17,492
Speaker 2: one in August as well. We're going to keep it

1281
00:50:17,532 --> 00:50:19,292
Speaker 2: going monthly, hopefully, but we'll see how they go. But

1282
00:50:19,972 --> 00:50:21,661
Speaker 2: fill that room, and it's going to be a fun one.

1283
00:50:22,022 --> 00:50:23,662
Speaker 2: I've got pals coming in from all over the country

1284
00:50:23,682 --> 00:50:25,882
Speaker 2: to be a part of that show. It's a tough

1285
00:50:25,902 --> 00:50:27,482
Speaker 2: spot to get on my show. Let me just say that.

1286
00:50:27,882 --> 00:50:29,602
Speaker 2: It's not something I just go handing that out.

1287
00:50:29,742 --> 00:50:31,102
Speaker 1: So I can't do my five minutes?

1288
00:50:31,322 --> 00:50:33,202
Speaker 2: I'm going to go ahead and ask you to submit

1289
00:50:33,242 --> 00:50:33,862
Speaker 2: a demo reel.

1290
00:50:33,902 --> 00:50:36,542
Speaker 1: What about the Hatchback of Notre Dame joke? I think

1291
00:50:36,582 --> 00:50:36,982
Speaker 1: it's ready.

1292
00:50:37,242 --> 00:50:37,382
Speaker 2: Hmm.

1293
00:50:38,072 --> 00:50:40,451
Speaker 1: It just needs culture to catch up with it. It's

1294
00:50:40,492 --> 00:50:41,312
Speaker 1: ahead of its time.

1295
00:50:41,392 --> 00:50:44,312
Speaker 2: That's what it is. It's not that it's hopelessly lame.

1296
00:50:44,952 --> 00:50:46,452
Speaker 1: And so it has a little bit of a buildup

1297
00:50:46,492 --> 00:50:50,732
Speaker 1: to get there. But, Johnny, that's just good stuff.

1298
00:50:50,752 --> 00:50:51,812
Speaker 2: Don't dumb it down for me.

1299
00:50:51,832 --> 00:50:53,902
Speaker 3: I'm not going to dumb it down for you. Hatchback

1300
00:50:53,962 --> 00:50:54,422
Speaker 3: is the joke.

1301
00:50:55,262 --> 00:50:57,082
Speaker 1: Guys, it means a lot that you spent the time

1302
00:50:57,122 --> 00:50:59,562
Speaker 1: with us that you did today. And remember, the soul

1303
00:50:59,602 --> 00:51:01,582
Speaker 1: becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts. So I

1304
00:51:01,602 --> 00:51:03,962
Speaker 1: hope the good thoughts follow you for the rest of

1305
00:51:04,002 --> 00:51:05,962
Speaker 1: this week. And we'll see you next week here on

1306
00:51:06,002 --> 00:51:06,502
Speaker 1: Talk About That.