WEBVTT - Yet Another Attempted Trump Assassination

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<v Speaker 3>All right, welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show. April

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seventh, twenty twenty six. We're here in Phoenix, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 3>at the y REFI Studio. How we doing, Blake, You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not having the show we thought we would have

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<v Speaker 3>to not having the show. We didn't have the show

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturday that we thought we were gonna have either.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually at the White House Correspondence dinners, many

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<v Speaker 3>of you probably know by now. I didn't say much

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<v Speaker 3>about it before the event. I was honored to be

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<v Speaker 3>invited by a few different outlets. Went and sitting next

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<v Speaker 3>to Harmeat Dylan, and the night was going along. It

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<v Speaker 3>was great, having a good time, meeting a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>old friends, seeing hi to new ones. And then, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>while we're sitting there waiting for the food to get served,

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump, Jade Vance and others on the dais on

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<v Speaker 3>the stage, all of a sudden you start seeing everybody

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<v Speaker 3>duck for cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you hear anything?

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<v Speaker 3>I heard? Essentially what I you know, I thought somebody

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of gone like that, like that was I

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<v Speaker 3>clocked something in the back of my mind, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a tray fell or but I actually thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody was pounded because it was such a raucous cacophonist room.

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<v Speaker 3>And I will I will just say, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>been a lot of talk about the security in that room,

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<v Speaker 3>but for me, it was like when we were in there,

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<v Speaker 3>you couldn't navigate. The tables were so close together that

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<v Speaker 3>if people were sitting in the chairs, there was zero

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<v Speaker 3>room to navigate in between. And so it was a

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, God forbid that place where I had a fire,

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<v Speaker 3>because people would not have gotten out guaranteed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a total fire hazard. I will say, that does.

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<v Speaker 4>Sound like something Trump might do. They're like, mister President,

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<v Speaker 4>it's gotten too full.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, nah, I mean, I don't know who made

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of decision, but it was it was a

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<v Speaker 3>tight it was a tight squeeze. So essentially you heard

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<v Speaker 3>this noise, but it again, you kind of just assumed

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<v Speaker 3>there was a lot going on, somebody dropped something or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And then little by little, starting in the back of

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<v Speaker 3>the room, you saw people ducking underneath their tables, and

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<v Speaker 3>so sure enough we dove underneath our table and you

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<v Speaker 3>could see the thing that well, I will never forget

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<v Speaker 3>was the urgency this I would call it like a

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<v Speaker 3>violent urgency of the Secret Service. As everybody dives under

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<v Speaker 3>the table because you could hear them yelling and you

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<v Speaker 3>could see them running, and there was like they were

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<v Speaker 3>throwing chairs to get them out of the way. And

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, whoa something, something is up, and so everybody

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<v Speaker 3>just starts we dive under the table. Were there again?

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<v Speaker 3>Time was sort of a blurb, but I would assume

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<v Speaker 3>maybe three to five minutes under the table, under the

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, you kind of I'm peeking out. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to see if if the coast is clear.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it becomes did President Trump get shot? Because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking I kind of look there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably a lot harder for you guys to tell.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we had no idea what happened, because I look up,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all gone off the stage and you see you know, tactical,

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<v Speaker 3>outed outfitted Secret Service on the stage, and you see

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<v Speaker 3>them marching down the middle and you see them and

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, so I was so close up to

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<v Speaker 3>I was if I was essentially house left stage right,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple rows back from the stage, and the Secret

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<v Speaker 3>Service came right by our table and walked on our chairs.

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<v Speaker 3>So a secret service put his boot on the chair

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<v Speaker 3>I was just sitting on. As they were navigating in

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<v Speaker 3>the room. Her meat's head was kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 3>poked up a little bit. She got stepped on. Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's poor thing. I actually she had a

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<v Speaker 3>welt on her head from getting stepped on. I mean, this,

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<v Speaker 3>in theory, could be the next Attorney General of the

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<v Speaker 3>United States. She got stepped on by a secret service

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<v Speaker 3>that we're working with such urgency, and they obviously had

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<v Speaker 3>no idea who was at what table. So eventually everything

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<v Speaker 3>kind of calms down. I get up. Everybody starts kind

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<v Speaker 3>of rising. I see Philip Wegman, who's with the Wall

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<v Speaker 3>Street Journal. I said, Phil, did they get like as

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<v Speaker 3>the president? Okay, because at this point I'm like, did

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<v Speaker 3>you did There was a shot that came back to

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<v Speaker 3>reception in that room. Because it's there was no reception,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody could make phone calls. So I asked Phil, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, did they get the president? Is jd okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Because in theory, I'm thinking, did a shot come from

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<v Speaker 3>the back of the room and I just didn't hear

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<v Speaker 3>it and it got President Trump. Well, Phil says that

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<v Speaker 3>they they had actually got He watched him get off

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<v Speaker 3>the table. Next thing I know, Brian off the stage,

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<v Speaker 3>so he was okay, JD. He said, I didn't see JD.

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<v Speaker 3>Next thing I know, Brian Stelter of CNN is up

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<v Speaker 3>on the stage with a self like doing a selfie

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<v Speaker 3>video like I don't know it was, you know, And

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<v Speaker 3>it's a room full of journalists and so they're all

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<v Speaker 3>got their cameras out doing like live reporting, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>just to record the videos.

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<v Speaker 4>And he joined the split between journalists who filmed events

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<v Speaker 4>around them and the ones taking Celia self videos of themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>So I instantly run over. I was probably about ten

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<v Speaker 3>tables away, twelve tables away from where Erica was seated.

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<v Speaker 3>I ran over there as quickly as I could, because

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<v Speaker 3>it was so crammed and jammed. I could only make

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<v Speaker 3>it over there so quickly, and uh, she had already

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<v Speaker 3>been ushered out. I ran into Harris Faulkner, and I

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<v Speaker 3>ran into Martha McCallum, and they said that they had

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<v Speaker 3>seen Erica get ushered out. She was okay, Harrison, Eric,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe you were under the same table praying when

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<v Speaker 3>it was all happening. And I mean it was a

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<v Speaker 3>terrifying moment. You know, everybody. I got a number of

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<v Speaker 3>texts and calls. Are you okay? Post so called right away,

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler Boyer called right away, and I just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my phone was blown up. But you know, here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm okay. My concern in the moment was just for

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<v Speaker 3>Air Erica, for Mikey others, you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just to see the way that the reaction has been

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<v Speaker 3>from this moment. We're gonna get into the details. We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get into the secret Service, the perimeter. We have

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<v Speaker 3>Susan Crabtree joining us next. We've got a great show

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<v Speaker 3>in store for you. But my reaction is just a

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<v Speaker 3>shock and horror that people are alleging that Erica's reaction

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<v Speaker 3>was somehow you know, performative. Up yours up your tho.

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<v Speaker 2>That's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 3>Secondly, that this was stage to get sympathy for Trump

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<v Speaker 3>or even for Eric or Attorney. Point up yours. This

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<v Speaker 3>is true you, This.

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<v Speaker 2>Is actually a good test.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if you are a person where it is reasonable

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<v Speaker 4>to you that assassination attempts are faked, are staged, just

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<v Speaker 4>stop opining on public events. Because your brain is too

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<v Speaker 4>cooked by television, by movies, by memes you read on

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<v Speaker 4>the Internet to think rationally about things.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, period. Yeah, I understand COVID that was a hole

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<v Speaker 3>like OP. I get it, the Russia hoax, Op, I

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<v Speaker 3>get there's reasons to be distrustful and to hold elected

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<v Speaker 3>leader's fee to the fire. I'm all on board with that.

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<v Speaker 3>But for real, if you are going to assume that

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<v Speaker 3>everything is the freaking Jews, or everything is some Stage

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<v Speaker 3>five D chess move and that leftists don't want you dead,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got about forty eight minutes of clips loaded up

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<v Speaker 3>today to prove you wrong, to prove that you are

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<v Speaker 3>missing the big E on the eye chart. And I

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<v Speaker 3>said it before, but I'll say it again. When Charlie

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<v Speaker 3>was with us, he was not afraid of the Jews.

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<v Speaker 3>He was afraid of purple haired jahat as that wanted

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<v Speaker 3>him dead. He was afraid of Tranny's he was afraid

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<v Speaker 3>of wild, violent assassination culture that's running a muck on

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<v Speaker 3>the left. And if you can't get it through your

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<v Speaker 3>freaking head yet, I have nothing for you to Blake's point.

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<v Speaker 3>Get off the internet. You are cooked. Your brain is toast,

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<v Speaker 3>wake up. We have put up with deranged leftists politicians

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<v Speaker 3>going to No King's rallies where they're holding signs saying

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<v Speaker 3>kill all tyrants. They almost die. We have a psicher

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<v Speaker 3>saying blood in the streets. We have destiny saying conservatives

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<v Speaker 3>should be terrified of being in public.

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<v Speaker 4>As people were walking out of this event, they passed

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<v Speaker 4>people with signs that said kill all of them, Death

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<v Speaker 4>to tyrant, Death to tyros.

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<v Speaker 3>And those people.

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<v Speaker 4>Knew what had happened, and they'd either made those signs

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<v Speaker 4>in response to what happened, or they decided to waive

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<v Speaker 4>them anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the kind of people.

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<v Speaker 3>You are dealing with it, and we've been putting up with

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<v Speaker 3>it in this country like it's nothing, like this is

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<v Speaker 3>just the new normal. It can't be they want you dead.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they're not all of them, sure, But then

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that don't they create the permission structure by

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<v Speaker 3>turning the other cheek, looking away, not acknowledging just how

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<v Speaker 3>vile and disgusting the activist base of the left has gotten.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess what the politicians, the Democrats are going to

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<v Speaker 3>say anything, because guess what they'll They'll get primaried if

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<v Speaker 3>they do. They know that, so they stay quiet and

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<v Speaker 3>they blame Trump like cow. It's so, who was this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Cole Allen real uh, real peach of an individual. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>he was a teacher from California, donated to Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a member of a group called the White Awakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, attended to know King's protest rabid leftist poster on

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<v Speaker 3>Blue Sky who like to interact with Will Stancil. There

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<v Speaker 3>he wrote an anti Trump manifesto and we can We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna Blake's gonna go god it here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So, I honestly, I find the character of this Cole

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<v Speaker 4>guy a little troubling, just in the sense that he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't have the biography you might often expect from a

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<v Speaker 4>presidential assassin. He's not an you know, a nineteen twenty year.

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<v Speaker 3>Old indiscernible from Anna Navarro the end.

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<v Speaker 4>The guy, he has a he has a job, had

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<v Speaker 4>a job. Seemed obviously like radical, but he's not this

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<v Speaker 4>non functional type who you know, everyone said, oh, this

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<v Speaker 4>guy was gonna totally go off the deep end and

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<v Speaker 4>kill people. He's like much more just a rabid left

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<v Speaker 4>winger who let his brain get cooked too hard. And

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<v Speaker 4>you can see that when you read his manifesto. As

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people have pointed out, it's not some

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<v Speaker 4>for you know, two hundred paged unibomber thing rambling about society.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like he's written it as a reddit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a reddit.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally, Hello, everybody. I may have given a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people a surprise today. Let me start off by apologizing

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<v Speaker 4>to everyone who's trust I abused. Goes on a bit,

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, why did did I do any of this?

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<v Speaker 4>I am a citizen of the United States. What my

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<v Speaker 4>representatives do reflects on me, and I am no longer

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<v Speaker 4>willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and trader to CoAP

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<v Speaker 4>my hands with his crimes. And he goes on said,

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<v Speaker 4>talks about who's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Target, who isn't.

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<v Speaker 4>At the end he responds to rebuttals, so including one,

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<v Speaker 4>let's see objection four. As a half black, half white person,

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<v Speaker 4>you shouldn't be the one doing this rebuttal, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>see anyone else picking up the slack. So he's marinating

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<v Speaker 4>in weird race politics stuff. He's totally cooked by basically

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<v Speaker 4>Epstein style stuff. Oh the prosident's so potophile, like completely ludicrous.

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<v Speaker 3>He's really really upset about Ukraine. That's another thing that

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<v Speaker 3>we saw through some of his social media posts. He's

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<v Speaker 3>very upset at JD being proud that we've stopped just

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<v Speaker 3>giving a blake check to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he signs off Coal Cold Force like it's

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<v Speaker 4>a username or a video game. Name your friendly federal assassin, Allen.

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<v Speaker 3>Check this out. Rob Henderson put out a tweet. Rob's

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<v Speaker 3>been a guest on the show a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 3>He basically says, relative to Americans with a high school education,

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<v Speaker 3>Americans with graduate degrees are twice as likely to support

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<v Speaker 3>political violence. Throw that up, please, and you see more

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<v Speaker 3>education equals more support for political violence. It couldn't be otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys have that graphic and here, let's just make

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<v Speaker 3>sure the visual gets up. So the point is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy was a Caltech grad. He was some people

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<v Speaker 3>call him a genius. I'm not convinced he was a genius.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was a sick person. As Trump said, He's

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<v Speaker 3>an absolute sick person who was highly educated, beyond his intelligence,

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<v Speaker 3>beyond his wisdom. He was a Christian. Now he's he's

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<v Speaker 3>very anti Christian, So that's probably you know, you think

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<v Speaker 3>of the Bible verse, it's like, you know, when the

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<v Speaker 3>house is cleared, the demons go scouring looking for another host,

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<v Speaker 3>and they come back with more friends. This guy might

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<v Speaker 3>might have been demonized. We are in a spiritual battle.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what his story is, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it is amazing that he just ran through

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<v Speaker 3>the security perimeter and was ultimately subdued right there, somehow

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<v Speaker 3>came out alive. He was running like a bat out

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<v Speaker 3>of hell. And so you know, there's the video right there.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is I think one of the more troubling

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<v Speaker 3>aspects of this whole story is how indiscernible this person is.

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<v Speaker 3>From Will stancl who he interacts with online, from on

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<v Speaker 3>Navarro on CNN, from the you know, the Lincoln Project guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is indiscernible from mainstream platformed democrats. I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the other thing. I'd say, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>play these clips because they're absolutely obscene. But you let's

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<v Speaker 3>not forget what they how they reacted when Charlie was killed.

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<v Speaker 3>This is do not forget how vile this has become,

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<v Speaker 3>This assassination gloating, gleeful, sick bile that they spew when

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<v Speaker 3>somebody's life is taken, robbed. Twenty five.

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<v Speaker 5>Where Charlie Kirk just got shot in the net he.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeniy Kirk got shot and he dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, finally, thank you?

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<v Speaker 6>Can we keep this up? Shot right in the voice?

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<v Speaker 7>I might be one person as atheist.

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<v Speaker 8>Today, I don't care that he was a person.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't to me, he was an.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you get it yet? Do you get what we've

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<v Speaker 3>been putting up with?

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<v Speaker 2>This is if you're on a certain brand.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the political left, that is what you can marinate

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<v Speaker 4>in every day. There's endless stuff after this where the

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<v Speaker 4>people are saying, oh, you know, too bad they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get Trump. They've said that after every single attempt on Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>and if that assassin had succeeded and killed the president,

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<v Speaker 4>what they saw, what we saw with Charlie one hundred times,

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<v Speaker 4>over a thousand times over around the entire world. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think knowing that that would happen. It's very

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<v Speaker 4>difficult to walk back and have some of these people

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<v Speaker 4>who are justifying the rhetoric of assassinations all the time say, actually,

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<v Speaker 4>we oppose political violence very often the left does not

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<v Speaker 4>oppose political violence. We know that because within the past

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<v Speaker 4>few years they have openly embraced political violence.

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<v Speaker 3>Of times, that's what twenty Look at this, Look at this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Hassan Piker, who we talked about recently on

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<v Speaker 3>the show talking about Somebody's got to do it. It'st

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen and you actually wrote about this and it was

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<v Speaker 3>a great video where you talked about, you know, someone

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<v Speaker 3>has to do it.

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<v Speaker 9>See when I say that, everyone knows exactly what I

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<v Speaker 9>mean that which which is.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that shows that there is a lot of anger,

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of resentment, and untapped potential, untapped revolutionary potential

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<v Speaker 7>as a matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Of fact, Okay, untapped revolutionary Okay, do you so? Just

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<v Speaker 3>to be clear what Hassan Piker's This is a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that The New York Times just did a whole podcast with,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Not even just a podcast with. There's extensive discourse on

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<v Speaker 4>the left like should we embrace Hassan Piker, And a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of them are saying, yes, this is how we

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<v Speaker 4>get our left wing. Joe roganis, we have to embrace

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<v Speaker 4>Hassan Piker. We have to embrace this guy who's going

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<v Speaker 4>to say, eh, yes, sometimes sometimes murdery, they were socially murdering.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really self defense to assassinate somebody. Sometimes robbery looting,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that can defend.

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<v Speaker 3>That too, But I but never mind, it's it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>just the Jews. It's probably just the Jews. That's who

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<v Speaker 3>did it. Like if you go online, that's probably who

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<v Speaker 3>did it. It's just a big masade up just to

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<v Speaker 3>get sympathy. Pretty sick stuff. I don't even know where

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<v Speaker 3>to begin with some of you. It's that upscene. Now

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to turn our attention to the security situation

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<v Speaker 3>around the event. There's been a lot of discussion about

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<v Speaker 3>was it secure enough? Should you know this was a

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<v Speaker 3>this call on guy who was a guest at the hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>I've stayed at that hotel a number of times. You

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<v Speaker 3>all have stayed at hotels. I'm sure you do not

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<v Speaker 3>get your bag swept checked, you know, dog sniffer, none

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<v Speaker 3>of that. There's no magnetometers when you enter a hotel room.

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<v Speaker 3>Should there have been? Should the perimeter have gone outside

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<v Speaker 3>and beyond where it was? But there's a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie actually had tweeted about the Secret Service having a

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<v Speaker 3>massive moral morale problem during the Biden years, that a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people were retiring, fleeing, and how big of

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<v Speaker 3>an issue that was when you had so much violence

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<v Speaker 3>aimed and directed at President Trump. Saw that at Butler,

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<v Speaker 3>we saw it at the golf course in Florida. Now

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<v Speaker 3>we see it at the White House correspondence dinner, and

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<v Speaker 3>we see it in other places. Candidly, there was a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that we forget who tried to attack mar A Lago. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So there's been multiple instances of this and then multiple

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<v Speaker 3>other instances of political violence. You need the Secret Service

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<v Speaker 3>to be absolutely on point, and Blake, I'd be curious

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<v Speaker 3>about your perspective, just not having been there. I have

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<v Speaker 3>my own from Well.

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<v Speaker 4>It is interesting, as you said, So for those who

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, a lot of the debate is as you said,

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<v Speaker 4>it was the security strong enough, because in some sense

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<v Speaker 4>it was the Secret Service can't prevent someone from attempting

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<v Speaker 4>to break through, and in this case, he did fail

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<v Speaker 4>within seconds, and that's a good thing. The debate was

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<v Speaker 4>was he too close? Was the president and too much danger?

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<v Speaker 4>And a lot of people have said, well, the whole

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<v Speaker 4>hotel should have been within this.

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Service perimeter.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think what we saw might have vindicated their

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<v Speaker 4>strategy because think about if their perimeter was the entire hotel,

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<v Speaker 4>then they do have to search every single guest who

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<v Speaker 4>checks in that hotel in advance. They have to search

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<v Speaker 4>every single room to make sure it's secure in a

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<v Speaker 4>place with hundreds of rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>He wrote about it's difficult. Yeah, he wrote about in

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<v Speaker 3>his manifesto. He was mocking how easy it was for

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<v Speaker 3>him to get into the hotel assemble the weapon there

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<v Speaker 3>and that you know, yeah, he basically said, I could

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<v Speaker 3>have brought a bomb in there, and you know it

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<v Speaker 3>would have been They didn't even precisely.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing is he wasn't inside the perimeter, and

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<v Speaker 4>so he attempted to reach the ballroom and immediately failed

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<v Speaker 4>and didn't even get on my understanding, he didn't even

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<v Speaker 4>get to the same floor. Yeah, the president was on.

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<v Speaker 3>We have yeah, excuse me, we do have Susan Crabtree

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<v Speaker 3>ready now, Susan, welcome back to the show. Where that

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of debate about the success or, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, the failure of the Secret Service. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a sense of in retrospect that it was a lack

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<v Speaker 3>of security in that perimeter. I will say it did

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<v Speaker 3>seem a little bit lax. But to Blake's point, the

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<v Speaker 3>guy didn't get He didn't really breach the perimeter per se.

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<v Speaker 3>It was on the floor above. He breached it momentarily

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<v Speaker 3>before they subdued him. He ran right through it. What

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<v Speaker 3>are people saying that you're interviewing, I know you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>to all the sources right now.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, they're flooding me with information, But yes, I honestly

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<v Speaker 10>I always say that these agents acted heroically. They subdued

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<v Speaker 10>and they interdicted this terrible mad man guy, and so

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<v Speaker 10>they deserve praise for that. But the larger plan, I don't.

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<v Speaker 10>I think it's similar to Butler. These secret Service agents,

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<v Speaker 10>rank and file secret Service agents and officers were set

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<v Speaker 10>up to fail. They did, and it failed. It was lucky,

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<v Speaker 10>honestly to me from my sources, there are many of

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<v Speaker 10>them that inundate me after things like this happen, and

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<v Speaker 10>they are saying that this is just an epic failure.

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<v Speaker 10>They were using the twenty twenty three Biden model on

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<v Speaker 10>President Trump. It's similar to what happened during Butler that

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<v Speaker 10>they treated Bunald Trump like a former president, like President

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<v Speaker 10>Obama or Jimmy Carter, not someone who broke the mold

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<v Speaker 10>when it comes to threats against him and having outdoor

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<v Speaker 10>rallies with tens of thousands of people. In this case,

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<v Speaker 10>they did not treat the Secret Service, did not treat

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<v Speaker 10>this as a special national security event like the State

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<v Speaker 10>of the Union or inauguration, despite the fact that there

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<v Speaker 10>were so many Cabinet members there. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 10>have covered the Secret Services problems. I've been warning about

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<v Speaker 10>this for months and months. It seems like it takes

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<v Speaker 10>one of these events for Washington to focus on what's

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<v Speaker 10>going on with the Secret Service. I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 10>Sean Kerran is the change agent. Dan Bongino also warned

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<v Speaker 10>about that when he was chosen, and before he was chosen,

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<v Speaker 10>that the Secret Service needs to reform what the mess

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<v Speaker 10>it was under the Biden administration and for many many

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<v Speaker 10>years before that.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Susan, what are the specific shortcomings they're pointing to

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of design. Is it just the perimeter was

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<v Speaker 4>too small? Is it that the agents there weren't enough

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<v Speaker 4>agents there?

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<v Speaker 3>In general?

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<v Speaker 4>What are the sort of changes that we might expect

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<v Speaker 4>as a result of this.

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<v Speaker 10>This is one of the last lines of defense. You

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<v Speaker 10>know that magnometer checkpoint that should not been have been

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<v Speaker 10>where you put the where you're interdicting somebody like this.

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<v Speaker 10>The stairwell was completely unsecured that he ran down. The

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<v Speaker 10>hotel is probably not a proper venue anymore for someone

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<v Speaker 10>like Donald Trump and his cabinet. You cannot unless you

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<v Speaker 10>are willing to have the hotel only accept vetted guests

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<v Speaker 10>who are affiliated with the secrets with the event, and

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<v Speaker 10>the Secret Service has a chance to look at their backgrounds,

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<v Speaker 10>or you could have in other countries they do this.

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<v Speaker 10>You have checks days prior to people checking into the hotel.

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<v Speaker 10>Their luggage got checked. There were reports that reporters were

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<v Speaker 10>checking into the hotel at three pm that day and

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<v Speaker 10>their luggage never checked. Whatsoever they are They weren't even

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<v Speaker 10>checked for their ID versus their ticket, and their ticket

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<v Speaker 10>tickets were being flashed. I don't know. You've been at

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<v Speaker 10>this event many times. I've been to this event dating

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<v Speaker 10>back to the nineties. It's always a soft target in

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<v Speaker 10>my estimation, and so why did not that not get hardened.

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<v Speaker 10>They used the old model and that's not appropriate right now.

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<v Speaker 10>It's the same problem that happened Butler.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think you're right. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting there was a bunch of accusations going around on

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<v Speaker 3>social media because and I was one of the people

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.639
<v Speaker 3>that was accused. I tweeted immediately after, like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>why we need the White House ballroom because and there

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<v Speaker 3>was you know, accusations that it was coordinator or something. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just an obvious thought that popped in my head.

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 3>When you have President Trump, you talk about the old

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 3>model versus the new model. I don't know that there

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:27.400
<v Speaker 3>will be a president that fits into the old model ever. Again,

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:28.959
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we're living in a brave new

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 3>world and this is just the new reality. So my

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 3>thought was, at least at the White House, you don't

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 3>have guests staying in the hotel that could have you know,

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 3>packed in a bomb or packed in a like a

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.320
<v Speaker 3>long rifle or shotgun or knives like they did. And

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.199
<v Speaker 3>I think at the very least, if you know that

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 3>somebody is going to be staying in that hotel when

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 3>President Trump is going to be there, not to mention

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 3>all the cabinets, the line of succession, I mean, there

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 3>was JD. Vance, Marco Rubio, Scott Bessett, there was I

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 3>mean speaker Johnson, I mean there was. The room was

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 3>packed with the who's who, and so, yeah, it is

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 3>a huge vulnerable target and there was, and I would

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 3>say the security you didn't get checked until you got

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 3>really close in to that ballroom. So yeah, obviously the

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 3>model has to change. You reported Susan that Susie Wilds

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 3>has been overseeing the Secret Service kind of as part

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 3>of her portfolio. And they're standing by the work of

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 3>the Secret Service. But they did call a meeting of

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 3>some sorts. What can you report on that, Yes, they.

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 10>Called a meeting to go review protocols exactly what we're

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 10>talking about. They have to say that the Secret Service

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 10>did a great job. I know there were men and

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 10>women that acted heroically and I applaud them. They prevented

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.919
<v Speaker 10>a greater tragedy. But it should have never got to

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:54.120
<v Speaker 10>this point. They had Cabinet secretaries and dignitaries and Erica

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 10>under the tables fearing for their lives. This is an

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 10>embarrassment for the United States, and the Secret Service could

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 10>have prevented this. It was highly preventable, and moving the

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 10>security outside would have been one step. All the steps

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:15.199
<v Speaker 10>that I just outlined even the magnometers. That checkpoint was

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 10>being broken down, and they were acting very idly. You

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 10>don't they were not in a robust posture when that

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 10>came in. And I don't necessarily blame the agents, the

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 10>rank and file agents and officers. I blame the supervisors.

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 10>And it's the same thing at Butler. There were two

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 10>supervisors that signed off on that security report, that plan

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 10>without anyone covering the AhR building and those security those

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 10>supervisors got promotions, and one of them is in charge

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 10>of the Office of Professional Responsibility, which is in charge

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 10>of disciplining other agents. That is ridiculous. When they did,

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 10>they did not notify and tell that tell the officer

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 10>this woman who was inexperiences. Congongress found that she was inexperienced.

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.719
<v Speaker 10>Her name is Mio Perez, who was in charge of

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 10>charge of Butler. Now we're having a similar problem take place.

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 10>Why were those agents and officers sitting idly there? They

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 10>reacted quickly, Thank goodness, because of their training and the

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 10>training they go through is so extensive, and they put

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 10>their lives on the line and they did so that night.

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 10>Thank them. I'm so thankful to them. Our continuity of

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 10>government thanks them. We I'm just but it should have

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 10>never gotten planning. Wait, it's the planning.

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 3>It's the planning. You're right, because I mean I was

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 3>in the room and I felt the urgency of those

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 3>Secret Service agents. I remember thinking, don't do it, don't

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 3>move quickly. I don't want them to think I'm a

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 3>thread or something like that. I remember being that was

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest points of fear for me, is like,

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 3>just stay low, don't make any sudden movements. Because you

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 3>could feel the intensity that those men were climbing over

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 3>the chairs and climbing up onto the stage. I mean,

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 3>it was a very there was a lot of just

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 3>energy coming from them, and I call it like violent urgency.

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 3>You could feel that they meant business in that moment.

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 3>So I totally I'm grateful for them. Blake brought up

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 3>an interesting point here, Susan. So you know a lot

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 3>of people think, oh, secret services guarding the event, we're

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 3>all safe. Well, when we all exited that venue, what's

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 3>to say there wasn't. If he wasn't a lone wolf,

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 3>lone gunman, what's to say we wouldn't have exited that venue,

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, there's you know, somebody perched

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 3>up high and it just takes out all the elites.

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, so President Trump, the cabinet, they entered and

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 4>left through a different way, secured by the Secret Service,

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 4>but everyone else was sort of.

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Just funneling out in a narrow line.

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 4>That's where they were passing those people with the signs

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 4>that said kill them all, death to tyrants. Imagine if

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 4>one of those people had an AR fifteen instead and

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 4>started spraying into that crowd, they could have killed a

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 4>huge number of people. And I think that's a lot

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 4>of the security discourse is sort of all the normal people,

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 4>still noteworthy individuals, all of them realizing that they were

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 4>basically unprotected at this time.

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and it's a good point because if you

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 3>go to Blue Sky, which this shooter was very active

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 3>on Blue Sky, which is basically a breeding ground for

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 3>domestic terrorists at this point. They they hate elites. So

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 3>you got Taylor Lorenz, who's kind of a despicable person herself,

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 3>and was, you know, fangirling over Luigi Mangioni. She's getting

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 3>canceled on Blue Sky because she's an elite. She was

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 3>going to a fascist party and they don't care. Once

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 3>they cast to get you as the elite, as part

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 3>of the class. That is, you know, uh, totally fair game.

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 3>She's getting canceled on Blue Sky. So what's to say that,

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, Nora O'Donnell and all these people that I

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 3>saw walking around weren't fair game as we were funneling

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 3>out of the venue. I mean, this is the assassination

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 3>culture that they're creating, that they can be this martyr

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 3>for the cause and effect change. You know. The point is,

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean you have a lot of thoughts on the

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 3>security situation here, Susan. I know. Oh, but the point

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 3>is we have a deeper problem, which is why the

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 3>model needs to get updated, because things are simply less safe.

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 10>Absolutely. I don't think that you can have a situation.

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 10>Trump broke the mold, okay, he is. He just is

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 10>facing so many more threats, and it's it's ridiculous to

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 10>use the Biden model from twenty twenty three at the

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 10>White House Correspondent's Dinner and think that that is going

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 10>to not be permeated. This is a porous security system

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 10>that was put in place last night. It's been the

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 10>same model that I've gone to since the nineties. At

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 10>the White House Correspondence dinner, said I'm going to date myself,

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 10>Speaker Livingstone. I remember going back there been I've gone

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 10>so many times. I remember talking about this with my husband,

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 10>who is a former Navy officer, and he has set

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 10>this we are soft talk, said this, you're sitting there

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 10>with you know, celebrities. I remember sitting there with the

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.959
<v Speaker 10>Homeland the celebrity from Homeland. She said, I can't believe

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 10>we're exposed like this. We're just standing in line. And

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 10>they didn't do anything different. And I'll tell you one thing.

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 10>The Senior Executive Service, that is the the top upper

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 10>management of the Secret Service, Sean Curran is not did

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 10>not actually use someone who had that kind of accreditation

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 10>to head to be the special Agent in charge of

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 10>the Protective Division, the Presidential Protective Division. That's a change,

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 10>and that's one of my sources brought that to my

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 10>attention in the last twenty four hours. He too, Shaan

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 10>Kurran didn't have that accreditation because he was a former

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 10>They treated him as working for a former president, even

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 10>though this is an unusual situation where President Trump was

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 10>a former president running for president. Again, this is just me, honestly,

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 10>I have some exclusive reporting to share with you. Susie Wiles,

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 10>I'm told, was overseeing the Secret Service, the chief of Staff,

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 10>the White House chief of Staff, and she was pushing back.

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 10>There were several incidents that I reported on. The Chief

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 10>Council was handpicked by Sean Kerr, and he got into

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 10>a road rage incident and was impersonating a Secret Service officer,

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 10>so he was forced to resign. The DH Christy Nome

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 10>wanted to put a political chief Counsel in place to

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 10>sort of initiate some of these reforms. I'm told the

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 10>White House would not approve of that. Susie Wiles would

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 10>not approve of that. They had a deputy chief of

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 10>Staff from DHS go over to the Secret Service to

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 10>share recommendations for reform, and I'm told that Susan the

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 10>Sean Kerran called over to Susie Wiles, and Susie Wiles

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 10>said no and had him walked out of the building. Now,

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 10>I went to the White House today and shared these

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 10>findings with her from these sources, and they gave me

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 10>a statement and I'll read it to you. Let me

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 10>be clear, this is from Caroline Lovett. Let me be clear.

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 10>Nobody cares more or has pushed harder or has asked

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 10>more hard questions about President Trump's safety than Susie Wiles.

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 10>The insinuation that Susie would object to anything that would

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 10>help strength and protection for her boss and friend is

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 10>absolutely absurd. But they did not address my questions about

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 10>whether she had this jeopardy. Chief of staff at DHS

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 10>walked out of the building for trying to share reforms

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 10>with the Secret Service and oversee some reforms.

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.719
<v Speaker 3>That's troubling. Yeah, I mean, you know, both things can

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 3>be true, right, that Susie Wiles does care deeply about

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 3>his safety and protection, and that ultimately something else could

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 3>be going on behind the scenes. You know that we're

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 3>unaware of of what would explain those actions. It's great reporting, Susan,

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 3>thank you for sharing that. You said, brand new exclusive

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 3>reporting that you just got. Okay, well, that's fascinating. Yeah,

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to make of that, actually, you

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 3>kind of I don't know if Blake you have thoughts here,

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 3>But it's troubling because there are obviously reforms that need

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 3>to be implemented. Wider perimeter, you know, checks multi levels

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 3>of security, and you've made a good point earlier Susan

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 3>where you said, you know, they have to say that

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 3>the security was stood up and that these that they

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 3>did their job heroically and all this stuff. And they did,

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 3>but from a planning perspective and from a leadership perspective,

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, Like I said, Charlie was tweeting about the

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 3>morale issues. I'm curious if we're still experiencing those, if

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 3>that's still part of the storyline of the US Secret

0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Service now well into Trump's second year, Here are you

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 3>still Is the Secret Service morale been cleared up? Is

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 3>some of the hiring issues been cleared up? I see

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 3>you shake it.

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 10>Absolutely not, absolutely not. That is a critical issue. Andrew,

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 10>you just nailed it. The Secret Service is having severe

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 10>hiring issues. Rich Star Aripoli, who was a former Secret

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 10>Service agent, covered for presidents. He wrote it op ed.

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 10>He's the source of mind. He wrote a op ed

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 10>in the Fox News just last week about this very issue,

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 10>that the hiring standards have been severely lowered because there's

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 10>a brain drain, there's a talent drain in the Secret

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 10>Service that's been going on for quite some time, because

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.280
<v Speaker 10>morale issues has been plaguing the Secret Service for years.

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 10>But they were exacerbated during the Biden administration when Biden

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 10>had a DEI mandate in place, saying that you will

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 10>hire more women and you will hire more.

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Minds been fixed yet, huh.

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 10>Absolutely not. That's one thing I've been reported on repeatedly.

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 10>There was so many different people.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, somebody to wrap up this hour, but that's troubling.

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 3>As you learn more. I want to have you back

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 3>on to give us updates here because the eyes of

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 3>the nation and the world are on this now. Susan Crabtree,

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 3>real clear politics. Thank you so much, thanks for having me.

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:21.239
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0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:25.560
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0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 3>spare moment that he could. He had a book open,

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 3>he had a podcast open, he had a Hillsdale online

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.960
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0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:39.000
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0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 3>doctor Arne at Hillsdale College. They shared a deep understanding

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 3>that learning is the key to shaping your character, creating courage,

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<v Speaker 3>and changing lives. Charlie never stopped learning, and neither should you.

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<v Speaker 3>Through Hillsdale's online courses, he spent time studying the classics,

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<v Speaker 3>my friend. This Caroline Levett press conference has just started.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna throw to it just to see what her

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<v Speaker 3>statement is at the top. We'll bring you back hang

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<v Speaker 3>right there, okay, oron one second, let's see here what Caroline.

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<v Speaker 5>Has to say, as I told many of you on

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<v Speaker 5>Friday afternoon, I thought that would be my last time

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 5>taking your questions until after my maternity leave. But given

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 5>the attempted assassination of the President and quote top Trump

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 5>administration officials as the depraved shooter noted in his manifesto

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<v Speaker 5>at the White House Correspondence Association dinner on Saturday evening,

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<v Speaker 5>I felt it was prudent to be here today to

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<v Speaker 5>answer your questions and inform the American people about how

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 5>the administration is responding to yet another attempt on President

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<v Speaker 5>Trump's life. Saturday was supposed to be a joyful evening

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<v Speaker 5>celebrating free speech in the First Amendment with all of

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 5>you members of the press. Instead, the night was hijacked

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<v Speaker 5>by a crazed anti Trump individual who traveled across the

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:50.320
<v Speaker 5>country to assassinate the President and as many administration officials

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 5>as possible. This is the third major assassination attempt against

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<v Speaker 5>President Trump in two years. No other president in history

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<v Speaker 5>has faced such repeated, serious attempts.

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<v Speaker 4>On his life.

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<v Speaker 5>First, and foremost, the President, the First Lady, and everyone

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<v Speaker 5>in this White House are extraordinarily grateful to the brave

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 5>law enforcement professionals who sprang into action to apprehend the

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 5>would be assassin and keep all of us safe. The

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<v Speaker 5>President would especially like to express his gratitude to the

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<v Speaker 5>men and women of the United States Secret Service who

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<v Speaker 5>acted with the utmost professionalism, courage, and sense of duty.

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<v Speaker 5>This includes the heroic agent who took a bullet to

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<v Speaker 5>the chest. Thankfully, he was saved by his bulletproof vest.

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<v Speaker 5>Minutes after returning here to the White House to the

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<v Speaker 5>Oval Office, despite fighting Secret Service to try to stay

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<v Speaker 5>and keep the dinner going on Saturday ahead of addressing

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 5>you here in the briefing room, President Trump was intent

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<v Speaker 5>on speaking to this brave agent to ensure he was okay,

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<v Speaker 5>and the agent.

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<v Speaker 10>Assured the President that he was.

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<v Speaker 5>As you know, I was seated next to President Trump

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<v Speaker 5>and the First Lady when the shots were fired, before

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 5>our Secret Service swiftly moved us to safety backstage. The

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 5>presidents came in the face of chaos while yet another

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 5>individual was trying to take his life. Was really remarkable

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<v Speaker 5>to witness and it's something I will never forget. President

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<v Speaker 5>Trump is fearless because he loves this country and he

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<v Speaker 5>is willing to put his own life on the line

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<v Speaker 5>to deliver on the promises that he made to the

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<v Speaker 5>American public who elected him here into the highest office

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<v Speaker 5>in the land. And while we are blessed to have

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 5>a fearless president, we should not live in a country

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<v Speaker 5>where such constant fear of political violence permeates our society.

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<v Speaker 5>Every single day. We can, and we should have fierce

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 5>disagreement in this country. As you all know, we disagree

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<v Speaker 5>often myself and this role in all of you in

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 5>the news media. But those disagreements must remain peaceful. Debating, peaceful, protesting,

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 5>and voting are how we need to settle disagreements, not bullets.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody in recent years has more bullets and more violence

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 5>than President Trump. This political violence stems from a systemic

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 5>demonization of him and his supporters by commentators, yes, by

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:14.399
<v Speaker 5>elected members of the Democrat Party, and even some in

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 5>the media.

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 3>This hateful and.

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 5>Constant and violent rhetoric directed at President Trump day after

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 5>day after day for eleven years, has helped legitimize this

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 5>violence and bring us to this dark moment. Those who

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 5>constantly falsely label and slander the president as a fascist,

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 5>as a threat to democracy, and compare him to Hitler

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 5>to score political points are fueling this kind of violence.

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 5>The left wing cult of hatred against the president and

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 5>all of those who support him and work for him,

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 5>has gotten multiple people hurt and killed, and it almost

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 5>did so again this weekend. When you read the manifesto

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 5>of this shooter, ask yourselves how different is the rhetoric

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 5>from this almost as SaaS and then what you read

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<v Speaker 5>on social media and here in various forums every single day.

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 5>The answer, if you're being honest with yourself, is that

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 5>there is no difference at all. Much of the manifesto

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 5>of the would be assassin is indistinguishable from the words

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 5>that we hear daily from so many. For example, as

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 5>the First Lady of the United States pointed out this morning,

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<v Speaker 5>just two days prior to the shooting, ABC's late night

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<v Speaker 5>host Jimmy Kemmel disgustingly called First Lady Milania Trump an

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<v Speaker 5>expectant widow who, in their right minds says a wife

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.720
<v Speaker 5>would be glowing over the potential murder of her beloved husband.

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<v Speaker 5>And having experienced what I did with the First Lady

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 5>on Saturday night, I can tell you that she was

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 5>anything but that this kind of rhetoric about the President,

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<v Speaker 5>the First Lady, and his supporters is completely deranged, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's unbelievable that the American people are consuming it night

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<v Speaker 5>after night after night. As President Trump said on Saturday

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 5>night at this podium, we as Americans must recommit ourselves

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<v Speaker 5>to resolve our differences peacefully in uniting around the shared

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 5>values that make our country great. The deranged lies and

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 5>smears against the President, his family, his supporters have led

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 5>crazy people to believe crazy things, and they are inspired

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<v Speaker 5>to commit violence because of those words.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to stop.

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<v Speaker 5>And one more point, Saturday night served as yet another

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<v Speaker 5>reminder of how important it is to fund the Department

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<v Speaker 5>of Homeland Security. It is shameful that the United States

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<v Speaker 5>Congress has kept this vital agency defunded for seventy three days,

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<v Speaker 5>the longest shutdown of a federal agency in US history.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 5>The Secret Service is a vital component of DHS. It

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<v Speaker 5>has been directly impacted by this reckless political gamesmanship. Everyone

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 5>in this room who was there on Saturday night witnessed

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 5>the heroes of Secret Service and federal law enforcement jump

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 5>into action in the face of grave danger and uncertainty.

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 5>Agents put their own lives in harm's way to protect

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 5>the President, the First Lady, the Vice President, and members

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.280
<v Speaker 5>of the Cabinet. One agent can be seen in video

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 5>footage literally jumping onto the stage, not knowing where the

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 5>attacker was or where the bullets were coming from at

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 5>that point, to place his body in front of the

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 5>President of the United States. These men and women are heroes.

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<v Speaker 5>They perform their duties daily, and they have children and

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 5>families too, and they do it despite the political turmoil

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 5>surrounding their agency. Make no mistake, this defunding of DHS

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 5>should be a national scandal. If Republicans defunded DHS and

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:39.240
<v Speaker 5>we saw in another attempted assassination on a Democrat president,

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<v Speaker 5>I would hope that the media coverage would be relentless

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<v Speaker 5>and unforgiving, and I hope that it continues to be now,

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<v Speaker 5>with the World Cup America two fifty, the twenty twenty

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 5>eight Olympics in a presidential election all ahead. The Democrats'

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 5>obstruction is placing an enormous and totally pointless burden on

0:44:57.360 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 5>the Secret Service that can get more people killed. Enough

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 5>is enough. There should be no further debate about this.

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 5>Democrats need to do what President Trump has been calling

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 5>on them to do for seventy three days in a

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 5>row and fund the Department of Homeland Security. Period, this

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 5>is a national emergency, and every member of Congress needs

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 5>to put their country over party and get the Department

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 5>of Homeland Security funded with that. I will take a

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 5>few of your questions today.

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<v Speaker 3>So powerful statements from Caroline Levitt, but I'm still kind

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 3>of left wondering, like action. If this is urgent in

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 3>a national emergency, then where's the action. Aaron McIntyre joins us.

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 3>He's from Blaze TV. He's got a great show, great

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 3>follow on X, great thinker or in you and I

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 3>were texting. I mean, it just feels like this problem

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 3>is something we've kicked down the rays can We've keep

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 3>kicking down the road, and we're not dealing with an

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 3>underlying issue of what we've allowed to be normalized. And

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 3>the longer we put it off, the more radical the

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 3>solution becomes.

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<v Speaker 9>Your thoughts are, yeah, I think this is Obviously Donald

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 9>Trump has received many different death threats and assassination attempts

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 9>from very early on, and of course these have only

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 9>accelerated with a level of permissiveness that we've seen. Obviously,

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 9>I don't need to tell anybody on the Charlie Kirk

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 9>Show about the horrific nature of left wing violence and

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 9>the incredible cost that the right is incurring that America

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 9>is incurring because of what's going on. It's great to

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 9>talk about they need to fund the Department of Homeland Security.

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 9>It's good to say that we need to finish the

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 9>ballroom to make sure that everyone is secure. But as

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 9>you say, all of this feels like we are not

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 9>addressing an underlying issue. Now, I will say, obviously, we

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 9>just saw the Trump administration take its first big blow

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 9>I think, against the leftist NGO violence machine, the one

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 9>that pushes the rhetoric that encourages attacks on people like

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 9>Donald Trump or Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 6>When they went after the SPLC.

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<v Speaker 9>I can't help but notice that just a few days

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 9>after they take this definitive action, for the first time,

0:46:58.400 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 9>we see an assassination.

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if there's a direct connection, but it's.

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.479
<v Speaker 9>Very clear that the left is pretty used to having

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 9>a free hand with the encouraging of violence and covering

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 9>up that violence.

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 6>And so the fact that the Trump.

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:14.840
<v Speaker 9>Administrations is finally putting pressure on organizations like the SPLC

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 9>making them pay some kind of real cost for this

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 9>is critical, and I think we need to see a

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 9>lot more of that as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, listen, you're talking about the mainstreaming of

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 3>this stuff. What Caroline said is absolutely right. It is

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 3>indistinguishable from the type of rhetoric this guy used on

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:33.919
<v Speaker 3>Blue Sky, from Anna Navarro, from any number Hassan Pike

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 3>or Destiny, all these people when they talk about you know, Trump, JB.

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Pritzker just doubled down Oran talking about how it's actually

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.280
<v Speaker 3>just Trump who's the one who's been calling for political violence.

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 3>How many times more times do we need to be

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 3>like the ones on the other side of an assassin's

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 3>bullet or an assassination attempt before they own up to

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 3>the fact that they're encouraging this amongst their own fault

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 3>and whitewashing it, going to No King's rallies where the

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.240
<v Speaker 3>signs are held up saying let's kill all tyrants. Somebody's

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 3>got to do it, and acting like it's totally normal,

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 3>and they're just, oh, well, they're justified to be so upset, Oran,

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 3>They're just they had it coming. They shouldn't be such

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 3>bad people if they don't want to get shot. They

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 3>have been normalizing this, and yet they keep saying it's

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 3>both sides, both sides issue. You got Obama going, you know,

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 3>we got to tone down the you know, no more

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 3>political violence. While we don't know what his motive was.

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 3>It's like read the manifesto. It's like he was watching MSNBC,

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 3>like ms now whatever you want to call it, that's

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 3>the motivation, Like how what more do we need? And

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:35.800
<v Speaker 3>this both sides ism, I'm so sick of it. I

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 3>don't want to hear another word about it orin your reaction.

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<v Speaker 9>No, it's absolutely insane. But of course left can't admit

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 9>any of this. There They've been using violence, unadulterated violence.

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:46.360
<v Speaker 6>For years like that.

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<v Speaker 9>This is how the left operated in the sixties and

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 9>the seventies. If you look back at the anti war

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 9>civil rights movement, we have the whole days of rage

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 9>with the weather underground and the bombings that the left

0:48:56.520 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 9>continuously used. They were so violent that eventually Richard Nixon

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 9>ran one of the most famous campaign as in history,

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 9>promising to tamp down on the rampant left wing terrorism

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:07.919
<v Speaker 9>that was running across the nation.

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 6>So this is a long standing leftist tradition.

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 9>The left rely on this open ability to do violence

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:17.759
<v Speaker 9>on one side and expect no repercussions. And if the

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 9>right even hints at the possibility that they might in

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.319
<v Speaker 9>some way get kinetic, obviously we see what happened to

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 9>protesters in January sixth. The right has to start taking

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 9>this seriously. They have to crack down. They have to

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 9>destroy the lives of people who want to murder the president,

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:36.160
<v Speaker 9>who encourage the murder of conservatives who are out there

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:40.400
<v Speaker 9>peddling violence as a solution to political problems. Violence is

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 9>an incredibly u the destabilizing element in any political system.

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:47.640
<v Speaker 9>If you look at something like the Spanish Civil War

0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 9>and the lead up to that Spanish Civil War, it

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 9>was an assassination after assassination of right wing figures that

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 9>ultimately drove people like Francisco Franco into power. People tell

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.440
<v Speaker 9>me that they're concerned, learned about the possible rise of authoritarianism,

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:04.640
<v Speaker 9>or you know, the right wings certain to use power

0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:06.719
<v Speaker 9>in some terrible way. Well, the best way to head

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 9>that off is to address issues like this now, because

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.719
<v Speaker 9>if you don't, if you allow the violence to build,

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 9>if you allow things to continue to stabilize, people will

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 9>look for someone who can return order, and they will

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 9>look for whoever will do it.

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 6>However, they will get it done.

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 3>It's a powerful insight. Or And I think you're right.

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 3>The the fix becomes increasingly drastic and draconian if the

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Left does not get their people into into order, if

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 3>they don't stop this incendiary rhetoric and whitewashing the people

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 3>that are using it supporting them, the fix gets more

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 3>and more intense and less less enjoyable. I can tell

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 3>you that. Or And I want to read this tweet

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.720
<v Speaker 3>or at least part of it from John Favreau, former

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.279
<v Speaker 3>speech writer for Obama, one of the uh what is it?

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 3>What's the podcast called God America? Since your question, do

0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Trump supporters who genuinely want to reduce political violence actually

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:05.240
<v Speaker 3>think that lobbing transparently hypocritical accusations about the left rhetoric

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 3>is in any way effective? Are we really going to

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 3>go through another cycle where MAGA folks point out in

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 3>cndiary rhetoric on the left without ever acknowledging that some

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:16.399
<v Speaker 3>of the most violent and thencendiary rhetoric in America comes

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 3>from President the president and his supporters. Do you not

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 3>think that the rest of the country has eyes and ears?

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:24.320
<v Speaker 3>I genuinely don't know what the hell he's talking about,

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 3>because when I play the clips or in let's I'll

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:30.879
<v Speaker 3>just pick I have. I have a grab bag here,

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 3>the team gave me so many. Here here's Destiny talking

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 3>about how close he came to driving to some guy's

0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 3>house and shooting him. It's not twenty one.

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:41.879
<v Speaker 11>I was, so you have known, Like it's actually kind

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:44.320
<v Speaker 11>of scary, like how close I was to getting people

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 11>together to go down to his house and kill him

0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 11>and his family.

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 6>I is so closely to address.

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 11>I have streets mapped out in every you have no idea.

0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 11>That's when I first had to get an interest in,

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 11>like owning a weapon. I got a permit to own

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 11>a gun and everything.

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, how about this? This is a som piker The

0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 3>New York Times Golden Boy. Uh twenty hurt poor.

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 9>People that they can they they can afford housing in Berkeley.

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how well.

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 7>My understanding is that the property owners who have properties

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 7>there choose just not to print it at all.

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:15.800
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, kill them, kill those, murder those in the street,

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:19.879
<v Speaker 11>let the streets, Let the streets soak in their red

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 11>capitalist bloods.

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Dude, So I don't know what John Favrose talking. I

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:26.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know a single conservative that talks like this. I don't.

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and maybe they are, and maybe they're fringy.

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:32.719
<v Speaker 3>I condemn you if you are that person. I don't

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:36.799
<v Speaker 3>know a single These are mainstream figures on the left.

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:40.640
<v Speaker 3>The senators candidates for Senate in Michigan. What's like el say,

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.719
<v Speaker 3>it's say you or whatever. He's he's campaigning with that guy.

0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 3>So I don't understand what this, you know, both sides

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:51.439
<v Speaker 3>is or in. I don't see it. And I'm sick

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:53.839
<v Speaker 3>of being called like I'm some fascist nazi that wants

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:55.600
<v Speaker 3>blood in the shit. I've never called for that. I

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 3>don't know anybody respectable that has called for that.

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and when, for example, when the President said that

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 4>stuff about Rob Reiner said we didn't care for it, No,

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 4>we didn't like it. And even then, even if it

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 4>was kind of gross, it was, it was far short

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 4>of I'm going to go to somebody's house and shoot them,

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 4>oh kill those m efforts like No, the President doesn't

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:17.359
<v Speaker 4>say anything like that yet.

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.120
<v Speaker 3>The Steve Scale shooting, we've got Charlie's assassination, We've got

0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 3>multiple assassination attempts against Trump, Like, what's it going to

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 3>take before they they put this away or they're just

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 3>never going to do it. I reflect on it, orn

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:32.399
<v Speaker 3>the floor's yours, both sides, both sides needed to calm down.

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:34.719
<v Speaker 9>Well, like you're saying, even if you could find a

0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:37.279
<v Speaker 9>bunch of clips of right winger saying something comparable, which

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:39.280
<v Speaker 9>I don't think you can, the proof is in the pudding.

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.000
<v Speaker 6>We've seen what's actually happened. The truth is.

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 9>That Joe Biden wasn't dodging bullets on a regular basis,

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 9>that you didn't see left wing political activists taking bullets

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:51.759
<v Speaker 9>when they're at speeches on college campuses. The truth is

0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 9>that we can see what is actually causing violence in

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.959
<v Speaker 9>the United States. Who's really getting it done, and that's

0:53:58.040 --> 0:53:59.280
<v Speaker 9>obviously the left.

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:00.800
<v Speaker 6>And they're never going to stop.

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 9>They're never going to dial this back, they're never going

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 9>to take ownership for this, They're never going to stop

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:07.880
<v Speaker 9>and reflect on what they're doing to the body politic because,

0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 9>like I said, this has been a key feature of

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 9>leftist politics for decades now, and they expect to get

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 9>away with unchecked. And so what we need is consequences.

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 9>There have to be real, serious consequences directly from the

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 9>government on what's going on here. If every one of

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:30.400
<v Speaker 9>these platforms can shut down something like Parlor, because that

0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:33.359
<v Speaker 9>was supposed to be the way that January sixth was coordinated,

0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:35.880
<v Speaker 9>then certainly you can shut down something like Blue Sky

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:38.799
<v Speaker 9>that currently pumping this rhetoric out routinely.

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 3>All right, But or and I saw you tweet about that,

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 3>and I thought it was a great point because you know,

0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Parlor was singled out, targeted for inciting violence, and we

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:51.479
<v Speaker 3>cried that that was anti free speech. Okay, So what's

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:54.360
<v Speaker 3>the argument if we so, if we actually got some

0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 3>backbone and we pressured Tim Cook and Google to take

0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:01.520
<v Speaker 3>down Blue Sky from the app store, you know what's

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 3>the counter to that.

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 9>I don't understand at this point people who think that

0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:13.799
<v Speaker 9>going out and encouraging the murder of conservatives is going

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 9>to somehow be permissible under any understanding of free speech. Right, Like,

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 9>there's one thing where we're complaining about how other political

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 9>parties act. It's another thing to openly and regularly call

0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 9>for violence, which is something we see on Blue Sky

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:32.000
<v Speaker 9>a lot. It's not some theoretical thing that's going on

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 9>over there. And we also know that these groups are

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 9>coordinating on places like Discord on a regular basis to

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 9>do violence. Discord knows this coordination is happening. They regularly

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:45.760
<v Speaker 9>ban right wing chats where none of this is happening,

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 9>but they will allow left wing chats where violence is

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 9>actively being coordinated. So these tech platforms are just allowing

0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:55.359
<v Speaker 9>for the expression of alternative political views and not here

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 9>saying we have to shut down all discussion on the

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 9>efficacy of communism or even open borders immigration. What I'm

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:04.799
<v Speaker 9>saying is we have to stop people from openly and

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:08.600
<v Speaker 9>repeatedly calling for the murder of conservatives, for planning the

0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:10.520
<v Speaker 9>murder of conservatives on their plate.

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 3>I totally agree. I think there needs to be drastic

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:16.200
<v Speaker 3>measures taken the you know this, the fact that this

0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:20.280
<v Speaker 3>is not even covered by incitement like this apparently doesn't

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 3>meet the you know, Hassan Piker calling for blood in

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:25.759
<v Speaker 3>the streets of capitalists or whatever doesn't even meet the

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:28.800
<v Speaker 3>because it's not a specific imminent threat. It's just like

0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:30.440
<v Speaker 3>a broad idea, So you can't get them on that.

0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:33.520
<v Speaker 3>There's gotta be protections for this stuff. Openly calling for

0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:36.919
<v Speaker 3>political murder and assassination. We played another clip an hour

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 3>one of Hassan pikers saying, somebody's got to do it,

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:42.960
<v Speaker 3>and everybody laughs, and he's like, you all know what

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about. Yeah, because they're all on the discord chats,

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 3>they're all on Blue Sky, they're all on Reddit. They

0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:50.440
<v Speaker 3>know exactly what they're talking about. And this guy, this Monaqua,

0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, a brewing company. He said, Oh, we got

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:55.800
<v Speaker 3>so close to giving you free beer. Somebody's got to

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:59.399
<v Speaker 3>get better at marksmanship. We got so close today. This

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:03.879
<v Speaker 3>is so prevalent and so mainstreamed on the left that

0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:06.319
<v Speaker 3>you have there has to be a law. There has

0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:08.520
<v Speaker 3>and if we don't have one, make a damn law

0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 3>that can attack, like actually convict and prosecute these people

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 3>that are are throwing our political system in disarray by

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, promoting violence. I mean, Blake you.

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:23.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm gonna be a skeptic here because I think

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 4>by this point we're pretty aware of how this plays out,

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 4>because we've seen it play out online. Every time we're

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 4>going to pass a law to tamp down on extreme

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 4>rhetoric online or this or like the latest new threat,

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:38.600
<v Speaker 4>it always will end up being used vastly more against

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:40.280
<v Speaker 4>the right than the left. So if we pass a

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 4>law that says you can't advocate violence online, it'll just

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 4>be they'll continue to advocate violence online, but they'll have

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.960
<v Speaker 4>another tool to ban the parlors of the future for

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:50.920
<v Speaker 4>they don't need to play fair.

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's I think, or yeah, sorry.

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 6>I think.

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 9>Less than new laws, what we need is aggressive enforcement.

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 9>What we need is the willingness to go after these organizations,

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:07.480
<v Speaker 9>to find existing violations, to apply pressure and let the

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 9>left know that there's a true social cost for what

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 9>they're doing. Would additional laws be helpful in that, Yes,

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:14.920
<v Speaker 9>and if they are, okay, great, But I don't think

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 9>the key is passing new legislation. I think the key

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:22.040
<v Speaker 9>is taking hold of the enforcement mechanism and using those aggressively.

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:23.960
<v Speaker 6>We've already seen the left do things.

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:29.400
<v Speaker 9>Like really thoroughly punish anti abortion protesters because they disagree

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 9>with their politics. We know that they didn't need to

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.800
<v Speaker 9>write a whole bunch of new laws to make that happen.

0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 9>We can see similar actions from the Trump administration without

0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 9>having to go out there and pass a bunch of

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 9>draconian laws. We just need to use what's on the

0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 9>books to apply pressure on a regular basis.

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, and I hope you're right SBLC. Is it

0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 3>the first of many indictments to come down the pike.

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:52.280
<v Speaker 3>I certainly hope so. And I know it wasn't lost

0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:54.400
<v Speaker 3>on me or that there was a connection. Just a

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 3>couple days after that story broke. I can't say that

0:58:57.640 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 3>you know it was the spark, but it was certainly noteworthy.

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Charlie's last text to Stephen Miller was calling for the

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:10.760
<v Speaker 3>need and the urgent need to defund these networks that

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:15.520
<v Speaker 3>finance these groups that fund them. But you know, it's gotten.

0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 3>The virus has spread so far that it's like, you know,

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you tackle it all, but I

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 3>think you're right. You have to start with accountability with

0:59:23.080 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 3>some and start sending the message that this isn't okay.

0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 3>But the question then becomes how you don't like new laws? Okay,

0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 3>you can enforce what we already have. I get that.

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 3>I guess what I'm struggling with here orin is the

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 3>problem seems so widespread it's difficult to know where to start.

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 9>No, it's obviously a huge problem because, as we both

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:45.480
<v Speaker 9>have already acknowledged, we this waited to do this too long,

0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:47.320
<v Speaker 9>we let it fester, we let it grow, we let

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:49.720
<v Speaker 9>it get well beyond what we should have. And now

0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:52.040
<v Speaker 9>if we want to get root and branch, it's grown

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:54.000
<v Speaker 9>so far that we're going to have to go pretty

0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:54.919
<v Speaker 9>deep to get it out.

0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:57.440
<v Speaker 9>Like I said, I think the beginning of this, the

0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:00.200
<v Speaker 9>dominoes that need to fall, as we're talking about, are

1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:03.720
<v Speaker 9>hitting groups like the SPLC, the ADL, groups that we

1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:07.320
<v Speaker 9>know are regularly going after conseratives that are keeping basically

1:00:07.400 --> 1:00:11.400
<v Speaker 9>hitless databases that allow you to fundraise off of exposing

1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:14.280
<v Speaker 9>where conservatives live and how to most easily harass them,

1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:16.480
<v Speaker 9>get them fired, you know, get them docs, all of

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 9>these things.

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:19.240
<v Speaker 6>There are entire basically.

1:00:18.880 --> 1:00:22.280
<v Speaker 9>Underground leftist militias doing this twenty four to seven. And

1:00:22.320 --> 1:00:25.520
<v Speaker 9>they do that because they have the structure, the encouragement,

1:00:25.680 --> 1:00:28.760
<v Speaker 9>the funding of these major organizations. If we can go

1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:31.520
<v Speaker 9>out and root that out, will that clean everything out

1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:34.000
<v Speaker 9>of the system. No, but it will get us some

1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:37.280
<v Speaker 9>of the key funding mechanisms, the key organizational tools. And

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:38.960
<v Speaker 9>I am someone who's a big believer in what we

1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:42.600
<v Speaker 9>call elite theory. I think that leadership and organization drive

1:00:42.720 --> 1:00:45.840
<v Speaker 9>political action when the money drives up, when the leadership

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<v Speaker 9>drives up, when the rhetoric drives up, when the free

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<v Speaker 9>pass on violence dries up, I think you'll see a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of this leftist.

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<v Speaker 6>Progressive machine blow away. Not everything.

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<v Speaker 9>We won't magically solve the problem, but I think it

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<v Speaker 9>does a lot to kind of cut this hydra off,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I think that's right. I think the second

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<v Speaker 3>you disrupt their networks and their ease of being, their

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<v Speaker 3>ease of talking, you really do sort of make things

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<v Speaker 3>very difficult on them. I think you would at least

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<v Speaker 3>see much less people would be much less inclined to

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<v Speaker 3>speak openly the way that they are. Listen, the First

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<v Speaker 3>Amendment is sacricynct. I get that, but I'm starting to

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<v Speaker 3>get really fed up with people celebrating assassination culture and

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<v Speaker 3>getting away with it. There's gotta be there's gotta be

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<v Speaker 3>something that you can do to take these people on

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<v Speaker 3>and to make their lives a living hell. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 3>and again I go back to this Monocua guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's he's doubling down. He Fox reached out to him

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<v Speaker 3>for a comment and then basically said Fox is guilty

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<v Speaker 3>of inspiring all this political violence. Again, this both sides

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<v Speaker 3>is them. They they they use Trump as the catch

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<v Speaker 3>all for Oh, we're justified in what we do because Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>We're justified in the violence that we encourage because Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the fascist, He's the Nazi. They are so dug

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<v Speaker 3>bridges those worlds too, which is really interesting. Or In,

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<v Speaker 3>I happened. I didn't see Mark at the event, which

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<v Speaker 3>you know is kind of sad in retrospect, but I

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<v Speaker 3>was I was trying to get out and get to

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<v Speaker 3>my hotel, and I'm looking at news coverage of it

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<v Speaker 3>and I see him still mulling about on the floor

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<v Speaker 3>of the ballroom. So Mark, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Give us your impression of the evening as you saw

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<v Speaker 3>it from your vantage point, and kind of everything that's

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<v Speaker 3>ensued sense.

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<v Speaker 7>Mark Alpern, Well, he saw me there because I'm a lingerer.

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<v Speaker 7>There was reporting to be done, and I'm surprised how

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<v Speaker 7>quickly everybody left, so I stayed around. And as with

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<v Speaker 7>some nice people, I think the camera is probably showing them,

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<v Speaker 7>not me. I think there's three main things I'm focused

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<v Speaker 7>on about tonight, and I'm happy to talk about him

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<v Speaker 7>in depth. But one is the security was inadequate. I

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<v Speaker 7>know the President and others are saying what a great

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<v Speaker 7>job the service did, and in some level they did,

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<v Speaker 7>but having I was a guest in the hotel, I

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<v Speaker 7>was in and around the hotel for three days, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm stunned at how lacked the security was from all

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<v Speaker 7>three floors that are germane to that.

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<v Speaker 8>So I really hope they.

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<v Speaker 7>Learned the lessons of what happened, and I know Cash

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<v Speaker 7>Bettel said this morning that they were making changes.

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<v Speaker 8>I hope they do.

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<v Speaker 7>Second is the level of liberal media bias just continues.

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<v Speaker 7>Caroline Levitch just talked about it the briefing. But if

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<v Speaker 7>someone who'd written the mirror image of what this guy

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<v Speaker 7>has written, who's been accused of the shooting about Barack Obama, say,

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<v Speaker 7>and Barack Obama, this is a third time the country tried,

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<v Speaker 7>somebody tried to kill him, it'd be covered much differently

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<v Speaker 7>by the media than it's being covered. And I really

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<v Speaker 7>wish my colleagues would think through that. I know they

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<v Speaker 7>don't like Donald Trump. I know they like to pretend

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<v Speaker 7>he didn't win the popular vote in the electoral college,

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<v Speaker 7>but it's really unfortunate how.

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<v Speaker 8>Divised that is.

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<v Speaker 7>And then lastly, i'd say for those on the right,

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<v Speaker 7>including the President, who say, you know, we need to

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<v Speaker 7>lower our voices and changed the rhetoric. The president others

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<v Speaker 7>on the right who have used inflammatory rhetoric also need

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<v Speaker 7>to consider their role at all this and if they

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<v Speaker 7>wanted to change, they can help contribute to it by

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<v Speaker 7>not just criticizing the left, but also by lowering the

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<v Speaker 7>level of the rhetoric on the right as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest with you, Mark, you are you're unbiased,

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<v Speaker 3>and I appreciate that, but I'm just, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see the both sides asm. You know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't buy that argument. I understand that that's

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<v Speaker 3>what the left is saying. I just read John Frose

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<v Speaker 3>tweet who said, you know, are you guys really going

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<v Speaker 3>to just, you know, be so hypocritical as to not

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<v Speaker 3>own your own side? And it's like, well, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know about you, Mark, but I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 3>assassination attempts it's going to take, or successful ones in

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie's case, before we drop that and the left actually

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<v Speaker 3>owns their side of the aisle here. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 3>is just this just happened. This is JB. Pritzker on CNN.

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<v Speaker 3>It's top thirty three.

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<v Speaker 12>Remember that it's been Donald Trump and the Republicans that

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<v Speaker 12>have called for political violence there. You know Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 12>from the very beginning. Remember when he talked about a

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<v Speaker 12>protester at one of his rallies that they should just

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<v Speaker 12>beat him up, punch him. You know, He's talked about

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<v Speaker 12>the death penalty for General Mark Millie. He has called

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<v Speaker 12>for jailing his political opponents, me included. So this is

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<v Speaker 12>a president who unfortunately slips into that mode so easily.

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<v Speaker 12>But I think we should get away from all of that.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm sure that we can find examples across both sides

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<v Speaker 12>of the aisle.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure we could. We've been playing him on the

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<v Speaker 3>show all day, so I understand what you're saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's like one side Mark. You know, even when

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<v Speaker 3>Trump says what he says, he's not saying some vigilanti

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<v Speaker 3>go out and take him out. But we have multiple

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<v Speaker 3>examples on the left where that's being essentially vocalized. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>And I could play you montage I'll play you a

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<v Speaker 3>ontage that's stripped down. This isn't even the bad one.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just from elected leaders, from Democrats. Eight. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>play this and get your reactions. SAT eight.

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<v Speaker 6>People need to start taking to the streets.

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<v Speaker 8>This is a dictator. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>There needs to be unrest in the streets for as

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<v Speaker 5>long as there's unrest in our lives.

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<v Speaker 10>Enemies of the state.

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<v Speaker 12>Show me where it says that protests are supposed to

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<v Speaker 12>be polite and peaceful.

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<v Speaker 10>Do something about your dad's immigration practices.

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<v Speaker 6>Effectless honor, they go low.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you resist the temptation to run up and

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<v Speaker 1>wring her neck?

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<v Speaker 3>Biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most

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<v Speaker 3>of them radicalized up.

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<v Speaker 1>To the right.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought he should have punshed him in the face.

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<v Speaker 8>I'd like to punch him in the face.

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<v Speaker 9>I should if we're in high school, I take it

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<v Speaker 9>behind the gym and beat the hell.

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<v Speaker 8>Out of him.

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<v Speaker 6>Punch some people in the face.

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<v Speaker 3>When was the last time an actor assassinated and the president?

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<v Speaker 2>They're still going to have to go out and put

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<v Speaker 2>a bullet in Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's a fact.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, listen, these are montage to other people put together.

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<v Speaker 3>I could agree with some of the clips, others not

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<v Speaker 3>so much. But the point is, like this fascist tyrant stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>this Nazi stuff, it is totally saturated certain quarters of

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<v Speaker 3>Reddit and certain quarters of Blue Sky. I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>see it both ways. And I'm open to your arguments here.

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<v Speaker 7>You and I agree about two things and maybe disagree

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<v Speaker 7>about one. The two we agree about is the comments

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<v Speaker 7>you just played. You could you could play comments like

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<v Speaker 7>that for five hours from top elected officials and people

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<v Speaker 7>in the blue media, and and and there's no there's

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<v Speaker 7>almost no accountability for it. And we agree that the

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<v Speaker 7>press is completely biased about all this stuff and don't

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<v Speaker 7>treat the two sides equally. So those are two asymmetries

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<v Speaker 7>that are super important. And you and I I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think disagree a shred.

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<v Speaker 8>About those things. And I've said that a lot. I

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<v Speaker 8>think the thing it seems.

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<v Speaker 7>We disagree about is you can't say that the rhetoric

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<v Speaker 7>on the right and you have to say it's equal

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<v Speaker 7>if you don't want to, but you have to say

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<v Speaker 7>the president has engaged in course rhetoric. Also, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>he celebrated the death of Rob Reiner, someone who was

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<v Speaker 7>very important to people on the left, I could give

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<v Speaker 7>you one hundred examples if you'd like that are comparable.

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<v Speaker 3>So just so you know what, we condemned that on

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<v Speaker 3>this show. Actually, and I wrote something very nice about

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<v Speaker 3>Rob Reiner when he has.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm glad, but not everybody in the right ays.

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<v Speaker 7>I would say the mass pardon of the January sixth

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<v Speaker 7>the people convicted for crimes connected to January sixth, same thing.

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<v Speaker 8>You can say you.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't condemn it, but it really does divide the country.

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<v Speaker 7>So it doesn't mean I'm saying everything's equal. It's not

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<v Speaker 7>both sidism. But the president, if you agree with me

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<v Speaker 7>about the Brob Briner one, I could probably get you

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<v Speaker 7>to agree to one hundred others. The president, if he

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<v Speaker 7>really wants to bring the country together, doesn't mean he

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<v Speaker 7>has to turn the other cheek for the outrages of

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<v Speaker 7>the first two categories. But he can't say there's no

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<v Speaker 7>third category because you've acknowledged there's at least one, and

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<v Speaker 7>there's a lot more.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would acknowledge that there are certain things

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<v Speaker 3>that the President has said that are rough and gruff.

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<v Speaker 3>I certainly agree with that, but I would say say

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<v Speaker 3>that you know when when you're looking at it from

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<v Speaker 3>a perspective of what he's been up against. I actually

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<v Speaker 3>understand that he's want he wants to fight back and

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<v Speaker 3>push back. But again, there is a distinction between vigilanteism

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<v Speaker 3>and assassination culture. What you hear from a Hassan piker

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<v Speaker 3>and the glorification of Luigi Mangioni compared to saying somebody

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<v Speaker 3>should get the death penalty, meaning like through the system,

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<v Speaker 3>he should be prosecuted, held accountable. There should be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one side is using this. When you hear that rhetoric

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<v Speaker 3>from one side, it's very distinct. It's one side saying

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<v Speaker 3>use the system to hold people accountable, the other side

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<v Speaker 3>saying blood in the streets, and I just it's not

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<v Speaker 3>it's not equivalent in my mind to kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of tie them together here, I think the best part

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<v Speaker 4>point for what Marcus arguing is Donald Trump is the

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<v Speaker 4>president of the United States. There is a certain weight

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<v Speaker 4>that comes to everything a president does. He certainly has

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<v Speaker 4>vastly more power to make sure anyone hears what he says.

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<v Speaker 4>It affects people a lot more what he says, and

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<v Speaker 4>he said some stuff that you and I have both said.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not very presidential. It's not good.

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<v Speaker 4>Frankly, it's not even it's not even good politically well.

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<v Speaker 7>But just but it also to take agree with what

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<v Speaker 7>you just said, it also divides the country.

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<v Speaker 8>You just can't deny that it also divides the country.

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<v Speaker 7>It doesn't, it doesn't erase the first two categories that

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<v Speaker 7>I said, but it's a reality that it divides the country.

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<v Speaker 7>And as you guys know, there are many Republicans who

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<v Speaker 7>you're friends with who feel even more strongly than you do,

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<v Speaker 7>who support the president, but feel more strongly than you

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<v Speaker 7>do even an express it sometimes about how di visits

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<v Speaker 7>the president can be in their view unnecessarily and Blake,

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<v Speaker 7>as you said, sometimes not in his political interest.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, But at the same time, I think in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of really trying to lay out specific cases where they

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<v Speaker 4>seem dead serious that political violence is justified, I do

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<v Speaker 4>think we see that more on the left, and we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen it a decade at this point, and it's coming

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<v Speaker 4>the whole office when he took out, it comes through

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<v Speaker 4>in the polling where they say more explicitly sometimes violence

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<v Speaker 4>is good. We've seen, for example, at the start of

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<v Speaker 4>the president's first term so well before he said a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of the thing before January sixth, before anything he

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<v Speaker 4>said about Rob Reiner, we had the wholy one.

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<v Speaker 3>When is it okay to punch a Nazi?

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<v Speaker 4>That was a big talking point that went around on

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<v Speaker 4>the left to justify why Antifa might assault people at

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<v Speaker 4>the inauguration or at other events. This is there is

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<v Speaker 4>a history to this to the left that I think

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<v Speaker 4>we see it bubbling up more and more. We even

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<v Speaker 4>see it in other countries. In Italy, I believe they

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<v Speaker 4>elected a member of Antifa to the European Parliament or

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<v Speaker 4>their own parliament just so that they wouldn't get arrested

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<v Speaker 4>for literally assaulting someone with a hammer. I think there

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<v Speaker 4>is something to be said that the left has street

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<v Speaker 4>violence and occasionally assassination more baked into its political rhetoric

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<v Speaker 4>and its political practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and my colleagues in the press.

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<v Speaker 7>If my colleagues in the press covered it fairly and

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<v Speaker 7>equally and equitably, I think I think everybody'd be better

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<v Speaker 7>off because there wouldn't be so much resentment on the

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<v Speaker 7>right and the president wouldn't feel satisfied as he often

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<v Speaker 7>does and saying I'm a counterpuncher. I'm just going after

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<v Speaker 7>people like Rob Ryer who went after me that's that's

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<v Speaker 7>the people who are at fault as much as anybody

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<v Speaker 7>else is people in the press who cover one side

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<v Speaker 7>tough and the other side barely at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I agree with that completely. I Mark,

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<v Speaker 3>stay right there. I want to talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the issue of live events, of gathering together in public.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a whole move of people that are saying which

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<v Speaker 3>can't do it anymore, and I think that'll be a

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<v Speaker 3>tragedy for the country. All right, So the Jimmy Kimmel instant.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to talk about this first, So we'll play

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<v Speaker 3>the clip he did a mock I guess White House

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<v Speaker 3>correspondent speech, and we'll play the clip top thirteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course, our first Lady, Malania is here.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at more so beautiful missus Trump, you have a

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<v Speaker 3>glow like an expectant widow. So so. Milania now has

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<v Speaker 3>tweeted and said Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric is intended

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<v Speaker 3>to divide our country. His monologue about my family isn't comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>His words are corrosive and deepens the political sickness within America.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she eventually says, enough is enough. It's time

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<v Speaker 3>for ABC to take a stand. How many times will

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<v Speaker 3>ABC's leadership enable Kimmel's atrocious behavior at the expense of

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<v Speaker 3>our community. Trump is just truth social basically saying it's

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<v Speaker 3>he's no way and funny, terrible television ratings. He was

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<v Speaker 3>there for an very obvious he's talking about the shooter. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all taking shots at Kimmel. Sorry, I'm just reading

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<v Speaker 3>this because it just broke right as we as we

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<v Speaker 3>brought this up, and he says Jimmy Kimmel should be

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<v Speaker 3>immediately fired by Disney and ABC. Thank you for very

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<v Speaker 3>attention to this matter. I happened to. I think Jimmy

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<v Speaker 3>Kimmel is a scumbagwet I tweeted as much over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I still am not over the fact that he called

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie's assassin part of MAGA and then had a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to apologize take it back, he didn't correct the record.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's a coward. But this is America. There

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<v Speaker 3>is free speech. How do you square that circle?

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<v Speaker 7>Look, on the one hand, as he said, free speech,

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<v Speaker 7>on the other, fifty percent of America has had to

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<v Speaker 7>deal with the reality that these broadcast networks think it's

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<v Speaker 7>fine to have all liberals and anti Trump people host

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<v Speaker 7>these shows. It's not equitable, it's not symmetrical, it's not fair.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's fine even though the president overseas CFCC.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's fine for the Trumps to have free

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<v Speaker 7>speech in reaction to Jimmy Kimmel's offensive humor to them

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<v Speaker 7>and say he should be fired. And it's fine if

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<v Speaker 7>ABC doesn't want to fire him. They're a private company.

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<v Speaker 7>The market should decide if his ratings are good and

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<v Speaker 7>ABC wants to keep him on, and if people want

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<v Speaker 7>to accept that, that's fine. I just as always I say,

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<v Speaker 7>if Jimmy Kimmel had made that joke about Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 7>and to Michelle Obama, imagine what the coverage would be like.

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<v Speaker 7>And the dominant media covers this story to the extent

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<v Speaker 7>they cover it, and I've been watching cable. I've not

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<v Speaker 7>seen it on cable yet all day since the First

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<v Speaker 7>Lady first went on Twitter. But they covered barely at all,

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<v Speaker 7>and they covered kind of like an interesting media story

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<v Speaker 7>rather than the way they would cover it if a

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<v Speaker 7>comedian had said it about Michelle Obama, that they'd be

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<v Speaker 7>covering it as an outrage and demanding the guy be fire.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, that's part of what drives this is

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<v Speaker 7>it's people on the right who feel it's just not

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<v Speaker 7>fair that Jimmy Kimmel and ABC act like he's just

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<v Speaker 7>a comedian, when in fact he's a partisan.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to play I want to show you a

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<v Speaker 3>tweet from Charlie, he said. Assassination culture is spreading on

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<v Speaker 3>the left. Forty eight percent of liberals say it would

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<v Speaker 3>be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. Fifty

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<v Speaker 3>five percent said the same about Donald Trump. In California,

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<v Speaker 3>activists are naming ballot measures after Luigi Mangioni. The left

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<v Speaker 3>is being whipped into a violent frenzy. Any setback, whether

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<v Speaker 3>losing an election or losing a court case, justifies maximally

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<v Speaker 3>violent response. This is the natural outgrowth of left wing

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<v Speaker 3>protest culture tolerating violence in Mayhem's for years on end.

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<v Speaker 3>The cowardice of local prosecutors and school officials have turned

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<v Speaker 3>the left into a ticking time bomb. And then there's

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<v Speaker 3>the grafts, uh, you know, justifying that it was a

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<v Speaker 3>poll that was taken. Is it safe to hold events

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<v Speaker 3>mark with the in this climate?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm very disappointed, as I said, in an earlier

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<v Speaker 7>segment about the level of lack of security at the dinner,

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<v Speaker 7>I think I think there's a way to secure almost

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<v Speaker 7>any venue if you spend enough money on it and

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<v Speaker 7>give the professionals enough time. So we have to have events.

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<v Speaker 7>And I couldn't agree with the president more. You can't

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<v Speaker 7>let people exercise a veto, a terrorist TechEd veto over

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<v Speaker 7>overholding public events. So yeah, we just we just need

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<v Speaker 7>to plan and we need to secure, and we need

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<v Speaker 7>to spend the money to do it.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's vitally important. And I mean the.

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<v Speaker 7>Reality is just has been a reality since nine to eleven. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, quarter century. We we we have an incredibly

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<v Speaker 7>open society. We you know, Charlie knew full well, you

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<v Speaker 7>guys know better than I do. Charlie knew full well

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<v Speaker 7>that there were dangers to going out, and he had security.

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<v Speaker 7>But our society is open and if somebody's determined, even

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<v Speaker 7>with the president United States.

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<v Speaker 8>They can get a shot.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's imperative to have good people in public life.

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<v Speaker 7>There'll be people who don't run for president in twenty

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<v Speaker 7>twenty eight who otherwise would have run because their families

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<v Speaker 7>say no, too dangerous. And if you're not Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 7>with your own plane and your own ability to afford security.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a risk no matter who you are. So we

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<v Speaker 7>got to spend enough money to keep people safe, so

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<v Speaker 7>the national ten square is available to everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we have to acknowledge the risk, but we

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<v Speaker 4>can't allow ourselves to live as a society under siege.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we need to rebuild the moral consensus against this.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things we've talked about Frankly, I just

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<v Speaker 4>I think this would be useful is if we just said,

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<v Speaker 4>if you attempt to assassinate a public figure, even if

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<v Speaker 4>you fail, it should be capital crime. It should be

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<v Speaker 4>like this person, he should face the death penalty for

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<v Speaker 4>what he did, because that is one of the ways

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<v Speaker 4>you send the message this is not acceptable in this society.

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<v Speaker 4>We debate things, we vote on things, we argue about things.

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<v Speaker 3>We do not.

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<v Speaker 4>Try to shoot people for what their views are, period.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think we build that consensus.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's and I think that's what we're

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<v Speaker 3>arguing about here, because right now we're stuck at this,

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<v Speaker 3>like both sides thing and the left is saying the

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<v Speaker 3>right started it. The right is saying the left started it. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the argument is stronger in our favor, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're just still arguing about you know, is that he said,

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<v Speaker 3>she said, It's a it's a circular argument. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know where we're going to get anywhere, but at some

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<v Speaker 3>point I think that my inclination is there has to

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<v Speaker 3>be real consequences rooting out some of the support structures

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<v Speaker 3>and permission structures that enable this, because if you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the polling mark there's a lot more liberals that

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<v Speaker 3>think this is okay than conservatives. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 3>the more conservative are, the less you agree that this

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<v Speaker 3>is justifiable. So final ten to fifteen seconds.

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<v Speaker 7>To you, Mark, I just the left should not be

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<v Speaker 7>passive or complacent because the media favors them on this.

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<v Speaker 8>They should really look at themselves.

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<v Speaker 7>Everybody in public life should look at themselves and say

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<v Speaker 7>are they contributing to this or not?

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Alprin, it was good to see you on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry I didn't see you in the room.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll see it the next one. I'll see it the

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<v Speaker 8>next one.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see you later. For more on many of these

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<v Speaker 3>stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com,