1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Life audio. 2 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: You're listening to Everyday Prayers with Million Praying Moms, where 3 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: we help you pray God's word for your families in 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: the areas you need it most. I'm your host, Nicolette Bell. 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: Here. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: We believe prayer isn't a last resort. We believe it's 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: the first and best response in parenting, a partnership for 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: the hearts of our children that God invites us into. 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 4: Friends. 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: We have finished out our summer book club together and 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: I am so thankful for the time that we have 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: spent this summer learning from Shaline Roberts and her book 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: When Mothering is Hard and no one sees. If you 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: missed it, I encourage you to grab a copy of 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: her book. You can find it on our shop at 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: Millionpraying Moms dot com. It is never too late to 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: read it. It has blessed me. I can't tell you 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: how many tears I have cried reading this book, just 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: being reminded that God does see me in the midst 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: of motherhood. It's been so encouraging to me personally. 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: And if you. 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Missed some of the episodes, you can go back and 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: grab those. In the teaching videos from Shaleen, we made 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: a playlist with all of those videos that you can 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: go back and watch. 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: It's a great way to kind of get caught up 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 4: or to be encouraged. 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: And if your kids are kind of getting back into 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: the routine of school and you find yourself with a 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: few minutes here or there to be able to. 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: Listen to that. 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: The final chapter in Salen's book is called It's All Grace. 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: And I just sat with that this week, that title, 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: and was. 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: Just reminded of the truth of that simple statement that 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: it truly is all grace that we have been extended 37 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: that allows us to be in this task of motherhood. 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: What a beautiful place to be. 39 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: It is also all grace that helps us to carry 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: out the day to day tasks that are required of 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: us as moms. 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 4: Over and over again. I need the. 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: Grace of God to care for my children well and 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: to point them to Him. So, friend, today, be reminded 45 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: that it's all grace. It's all grace, and we are 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: starting something very exciting as many families kind of hit 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: that reset button. Regardless if you're homeschooling, if you're going 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: to a traditional school, private school, whatever that might look 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: like for your family. The fall is a reset time 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: for so many families, and we are going to be 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: using that as a reset here for us on the 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: Everyday Prayers podcast. I am so grateful and for our 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: community of moms that we're in this together. We are 54 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: going to be spending nine weeks praying through the nine 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: Fruit of the Spirit for our children. We're using our 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Everyday Prayers for the School Year devotional as a guide 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: for this series. The last section of this book goes 58 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: through every single one of the Fruit of the Spirit 59 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: and a prayer for that over your child. So we're 60 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: going to be having a prayer focus for the week. 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: So this upcoming week, our prayer focus will begin with love. 62 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: We're going to be praying for our children to receive 63 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: God's love, to know God's love, to extend that love 64 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: to their neighbors. Also for us as their moms, to 65 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: receive God's love and to extend that love and to. 66 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: Model it for them. So we're going to be praying 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: over a variety of. 68 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: Ways of these expressions of the Fruit of the Spirit 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: in our families. I'm really really excited about getting to 70 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: focus in on this with all of you, and on Fridays, 71 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: I want to let you know we're doing a special 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: back to School Friday Conversation series where we're going to 73 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: be hopefully answer some questions that we all have as 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: parents as our kids are going back into the school year. 75 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: Just to give you an idea of some of the 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: things that we'll be talking about, and we're going to 77 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: be talking about navigating AI and technology with your kids. 78 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about establishing habits with your 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: family this school year. We're going to be talking about 80 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: navigating sports and failure, friendships, and many other things on 81 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: the Friday Conversations back to School series together. But today, 82 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: on the last day of the podcast for the month 83 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: of July, I thought we would pull out an older episode, 84 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: but a good one that it has blessed me so 85 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: much to go back and listen to this episode. I 86 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: think it is a great one to listen to as 87 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: we're preparing for our. 88 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: Kids to go back to school. 89 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: It's one that our founder, Brooke McLoughlin had with Sissy 90 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: Goff of day Star Counseling, and they talk about three 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: tips for recognizing when your child is struggling with their identity. 92 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: I personally listened to Sissy's podcast, Raising Girls and Boys 93 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: all the time, and so I loved this conversation between 94 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: she and Brooke that talked about identity, and I think 95 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: that's such a great place to start the school year 96 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: as we're kind of headed into the fall of making 97 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: sure that we're helping our children know their identity is 98 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: found in Christ and no one else. So I hope 99 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: you enjoy this replay of an old one, but a 100 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: good one today. Thanks for joining us for our summer 101 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: book club. You can find all the details on how 102 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: to pray through the Fruit of the Spirit with us 103 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: this fall on our website and in our newsletters. Make 104 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: sure you are subscribed and signed up for those You 105 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: can do all of those things at Million Prayingmoms dot com. 106 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: I'm so glad to get to be with you today, 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: and I pray blessings over your family as you begin 108 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 2: this new season. 109 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 5: Well, Sissy friend, welcome back to the show. I am 110 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 5: so glad to have you with us today. I have 111 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: to tell you, I just can't think of a better 112 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 5: person to speak into what we're going to talk about 113 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 5: today than you. 114 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: Tell us. 115 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 5: For those that maybe don't know you or haven't listened 116 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: to you on the show before, tell us a little 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 5: bit about yourself, your family, and your ministry. 118 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 6: Well, I'm so honored to be back with you, Brooke. 119 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 6: I think this is maybe the third or fourth time 120 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 6: I can't even remember that I've gotten to talk with you. 121 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 6: So thank you for having me. And I am a 122 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 6: therapist in Nashville, Tennessee, where I have been counseling kids 123 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 6: and families for thirty years now, which just makes me 124 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 6: feel really old that I'm old enough to have done 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 6: anything for thirty years. But I'm very grateful and ful 126 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 6: like it's a huge privilege to get to do this 127 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 6: work of sitting with kids and families. And I get 128 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 6: to take my dog to work every day, which is 129 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 6: one of the best parts of my job. And I 130 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 6: live about three blocks from my little sister. I have 131 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 6: kind of an interesting family dynamic, and I was an 132 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 6: only child till I was sick. When my parents toill 133 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 6: me they were pregnant, which evidently, oh wow, I said 134 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 6: to my mom. I didn't know y'all still did that 135 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 6: when she told me. And so I have this delight 136 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 6: of a sister who is in her mid thirties and 137 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 6: owns a clothing store in Nashville, which is fun and 138 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 6: expensive for me, and she has two little guys and 139 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 6: a wonderful husband, and so they're about three blocks from me, 140 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 6: so I get to spend a lot of time with them. 141 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 6: And I'm living in the boy world a lot these 142 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 6: days with a four year old and a one year 143 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 6: old and just having the best time. Every Friday night 144 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 6: I'm in town, they call me Diddy, And every Friday 145 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 6: night I'm in town, we have a sleepover at my house. 146 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 6: We lost our mom about two years ago, and so 147 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 6: I am doing my best to be aunt and grandmother 148 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 6: and all the things to these adorable little guys. 149 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 5: That's awesome because really the age difference puts you in 150 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: that perfect position to be able to do that. So 151 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 5: I love that, and actually that they call you Diddy. 152 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 5: I actually called my aunt. 153 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: Her name is Debbie, and I called her d d 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 3: So that's sweet. That's super sweet. 155 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: I love that you're getting some boys stuff in there 156 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 5: as well. 157 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: That's fantasy. 158 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 6: I love so much. In the land of girls. It's 159 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 6: really fun and shocking. They're just a wonder of little creatures. 160 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes they are, Yes they are. Well, I'm so 161 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: happy to have you with us today. We're going to 162 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 5: spend our time sharing some tips for recognizing when our 163 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 5: children are struggling with their identity, and maybe a few 164 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: steps that we can take as parents to try to 165 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 5: write the ship. I know one short little episode is 166 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 5: not enough to really help us move in that direction fully, 167 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 5: but I'm hoping you can help us turn the rudder 168 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 5: just a little bit. But before we get started diving 169 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 5: into those this is a podcast about prayer, and so 170 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 5: I have to mention prayer first. One of the things 171 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 5: that I have prayed myself most often as my kids 172 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 5: have become teenagers and have questioned things that we've taught them, 173 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 5: or began to explore things that you know, maybe weren't 174 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 5: in life with what we wanted, which is a normal 175 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 5: teenage thing. But one of the prayers that I've prayed 176 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 5: the most is Lord, show me, Just show me. And 177 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: I think the hard thing about recognizing when our children 178 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 5: are struggling is that as they get older, they naturally 179 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: share less with us. And that's okay. It actually, I 180 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 5: think is supposed to be that way. I remember being 181 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 5: that way myself as I grew up. There were just 182 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 5: less and less that I naturally shared with my parents, 183 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 5: and so I find that as my kids have aged, 184 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 5: I have to work a little bit harder to get 185 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: the things that I need from them. They used to 186 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 5: tell me everything, and now I just have to work 187 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 5: harder for it. But I know that there are things 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 5: that they keep to themselves. And I think because of this, 189 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 5: we as parents are so dependent on the Lord to 190 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 5: show us what we need to see in their lives 191 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 5: that maybe we aren't seeing clearly. It could be just 192 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 5: because they're not telling us, or sometimes we just think 193 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 5: that our kids are little angels when they're not, and 194 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 5: so we have a distorted view of who are are. 195 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 5: But we need the Lord to show us things that 196 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 5: we might not be seeing clearly. 197 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: And so I pray, Lord, show. 198 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 5: Me open my eyes, make the hidden things known, show 199 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 5: me what I'm missing. 200 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: I pray that all the time. 201 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: So the first thing that I want to say before 202 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 5: we jump into all the wisdom that Sissy's going to 203 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 5: share with us, is if you're not praying about this 204 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 5: particular issue, please start now. And if you need help, 205 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 5: we have all kinds of resources for that. We can 206 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 5: show you how to get started. Look to the show 207 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 5: notes to get some ideas for that. But Sissy, as 208 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 5: a counselor who deals with these issues of identity on 209 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 5: a regular basis. You're going to offer us three tips today, 210 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 5: So which one do you want to start with? You 211 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 5: kick us off and we'll get started. 212 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,239 Speaker 6: I think where I would start is wanting to understand, 213 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 6: and I love the prayer of show me. I think 214 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 6: we want to understand right now, based on the ages 215 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 6: of your kids, how are they defining themselves and how 216 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 6: are they seeing themselves in light who they are and 217 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 6: how other people see them? And I think, you know, culturally, 218 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 6: things have gotten so much more complicated and convoluted than 219 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 6: ever before. And my experience is that kids are defining 220 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 6: themselves by how others see them. They're defining themselves by 221 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 6: often the negative, like the things that feel wrong in 222 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 6: their world or wrong even inside of them, instead of 223 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 6: going to a foundational truth of who God says they are, 224 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 6: which is what I love that you all have been 225 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 6: talking about. And so I think even to say to 226 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 6: your child, if they're old enough to talk about it, 227 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 6: like I mean, I think adolescence, we could say, how 228 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 6: do you feel like you define yourselves? What are some 229 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 6: things that you would say if someone asked you who 230 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 6: you are? 231 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: How would you answer that question? 232 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 6: And with little kids, I think we could even say, 233 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 6: tell me five things that are true about you, and 234 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 6: tell me five things that aren't true about you. And 235 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 6: I had a conversation like this with a group of 236 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 6: adolescents not long ago, and I said, tell me, like, 237 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 6: number one, how do y'all think your culture defines you today? 238 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 6: And number two, how do you each define yourselves? And 239 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 6: I will never forget a girl who's the senior in 240 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 6: high school. She said, I think we define ourselves today 241 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 6: by mental illness. And she said, I think that's one 242 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 6: of the first things we talk about, is how we 243 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 6: have anxiety or how we're depressed or something like that. 244 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 6: And she said the biggest concerns I have about that, 245 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 6: which is this is amazing even to me that a 246 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 6: senior in high school could say this, But she said, 247 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 6: one is that I think it skews us toward the negative. 248 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 6: It makes us think more about the negative than the positive. 249 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 6: And the other is that for the people who really 250 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 6: are struggling with those things, we are limiting those words. 251 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 6: We're kind of taking the power out of those words. 252 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 6: That is something I am seeing every day in my office. 253 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 6: And I think social media contributes to it. And so 254 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 6: many other things, and for kids, we don't ever want 255 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 6: something that is a small part of what they're going 256 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 6: through to define the larger part of who they are. 257 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 5: Yes, Okay, So I just had a conversation with my 258 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 5: son yesterday, my younger son, who is getting ready to 259 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 5: turn sixteen, and he was telling me about all the 260 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 5: tattoos that he wants. Right, So, I know this is 261 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 5: a slight detour, but I think it'll help illustrate the point. 262 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 5: And the conversation that we had with him was a 263 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 5: in our family. Other people may feel differently. So this 264 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 5: is not a debate on whether or not we like 265 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 5: tattoos or whether or not they're good and holy. We 266 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: can have that conversation another day. In our family, I'm 267 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 5: not one hundred percent opposed to tattooing something meaningful on 268 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 5: your body, but I just have a hard time thinking 269 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 5: of something that I am going to want on my 270 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 5: body for the rest of my life, Like I can't 271 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 5: come up with something that I know I'm going to want. 272 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 5: And so all the things that he was telling me 273 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 5: were very much issues for things that are important to 274 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 5: him today as a fifteen year old that I happen 275 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,359 Speaker 5: to know as a forty five year old will probably 276 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 5: not be as important to him thirty years down the raid, 277 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 5: and that he might just regret having tattooed on his 278 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 5: body at this point. And so we had that conversation. 279 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 5: But I think that kind of illustrates a little bit 280 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: of what you're talking about, which is that our children 281 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 5: this time from adolescence, it is a naturally kind of 282 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 5: confusing time, and it is a time when they actually 283 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 5: don't know what they want. They are learning more about 284 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 5: what they want and who they are. Their brain is 285 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 5: not fully developed yet, and so their ability to make 286 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 5: decisions is not what it can or will be later 287 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 5: on down the road. But it's like social media has 288 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 5: glorified that time, or glorified the negative of those things 289 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 5: that we know, having been through this time ourselves, there's 290 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: going to be some resolution there on the other side 291 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 5: of it. We've made it feel our culture has made 292 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: it feel like so many important things have to be 293 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: decided right now, when it really just makes some more time. 294 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 6: Does that make sense, Yes, it completely makes sense. It 295 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 6: makes me think about I mean, when I went to college, 296 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 6: I think I started off as an interior design major 297 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 6: and then I changed to elementary education, and then I 298 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 6: changed to I was going to be a pediatrician, and 299 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 6: then I finally landed on psychology. And it's funny because 300 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 6: when I think back about my life and different stories 301 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 6: and things that I was involved in. God knew all 302 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 6: along what I was going to do, and I didn't, 303 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 6: and so I was trying on different things. And I 304 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 6: think exactly what you said. I mean, kids are going 305 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 6: to change what they believe is true about themselves a 306 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 6: million times. They're going to try on I mean, even 307 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 6: just silly things like the style they wear in terms 308 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 6: of clothing, who they think they are. And so honestly, 309 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 6: that leads me to my second point, which is, I 310 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 6: think we've got to be really careful to stay in 311 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 6: the conversation. And when I sit with parents who are 312 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 6: concerned about what kids believe is true about themselves, what 313 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 6: kids believe is true about the world right now, which 314 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 6: may be very different than what the parents believe. One 315 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 6: of my first comments is always your kids need to 316 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 6: be able to have conversation with you. And if you 317 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 6: come down so hard initially about what you believe and 318 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 6: how it's different than what they're saying, you're taking yourself 319 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 6: out of the conversation, and so we need to always 320 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 6: start with listening. I love that you know exactly what 321 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 6: kind of tattoos he would want, because that means you've 322 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 6: been listening. And so how do we keep ourselves in 323 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 6: the conversation when where we're saying, we're swallowing our own panic, 324 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 6: doing our own work in terms of the anxiety in 325 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 6: that moment, and saying, tell me more about that, or 326 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 6: that's really interesting, tell me what you love or what 327 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 6: does that even mean to you? You know, when he 328 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 6: comes home and says he's going to vote for this 329 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 6: candidate when he's not even old enough to vote yet, 330 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. But just stay in the conversation and 331 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 6: keep the dialogue open. 332 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 5: Right, That's so good, And I think too, I would 333 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 5: just add, as a passionate person who has very strong opinions, 334 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 5: and it does require every bit of self control that 335 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 5: I have sometimes not to be that reactor man just 336 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: going to confess that. It's a struggle for me sometimes 337 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 5: not to do that. And I think it's because I 338 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: care so much about them that I want them to 339 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 5: get it right. But I think too, like there may 340 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 5: be times when it might be appropriate if you've blown 341 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 5: it to just go and ask for forgiveness and say 342 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 5: I handled that wrong, I'm sorry. I want to hear 343 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 5: what you have to say. If we can do this respectfully, 344 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 5: if you can be respectful of me, then I will 345 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 5: do my best to be respectful of you. I say 346 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 5: that only because I had a parent tell me one 347 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 5: time that she would never ever ask her child to 348 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: forgive her because she was the parent and what she 349 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 5: said goes and she would never admit to being wrong. 350 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: And I just don't. 351 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 5: Feel like that reflects the heart of Christ very well. 352 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 5: And just as a human being, I'm not inclined to 353 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 5: talk to people who approached me like that, right, And 354 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: so I think it's important for us if we mess 355 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 5: it up. I think, do what Sissy said, don't react, 356 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 5: But if you do, just go and tell them you 357 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 5: were wrong and open that door and help them to 358 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 5: see that you're a human being. 359 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: Yes. 360 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 6: Well, And in this age of anxiety with kids, I 361 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 6: have never seen as many kids put as much pressure 362 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 6: on themselves as kids are today. The anxiety based around 363 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 6: perfectionism is staggering with kids. And I think when we 364 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 6: can go to them and say I failed, will you 365 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 6: forgive me? It helps them know they're going to mess 366 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 6: up too, because they're hero in the world as their 367 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 6: mom or dad just admitted that they failed themselves. And Melissa, 368 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 6: who's our director at day Started a dear friend. She 369 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 6: talks about how we can't be Jesus to the kids 370 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 6: we love, but we can need Jesus in front of them, absolutely, 371 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 6: and I think that's what we're talking about. When we 372 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 6: say I failed, Will you forgive me? We are pointing 373 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 6: to how desperately we need Him and that's where we 374 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 6: want them to land too. 375 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely. I couldn't agree with that more. What is the 376 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 5: third thing that you would share with us today? 377 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 6: I would say the third thing in terms of helping 378 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 6: them really find their foundation scripturally about their identity is 379 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 6: you want to have other adults who are speaking that 380 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 6: into their lives too. And I think talking about prayer, 381 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 6: that's something really to pray for because we say so 382 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 6: often at Daystar we are saying the exact same thing 383 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 6: that parents are saying to their kids, but we're a 384 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 6: new voice, and so sometimes they can hear us a 385 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 6: little bit differently. And so whether that's the person who 386 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 6: leads their Sunday school class or the person who leads 387 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 6: their youth group as they get older, or it's a 388 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 6: teacher or a coach that you really trust. From a 389 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 6: spiritual standpoint, you want people who are speaking to This 390 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 6: is who I believe God made you to be, because 391 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 6: I think the combination of their voice and yours has 392 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 6: a really amazing impact on how they see themselves. 393 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 5: That's just such a great word. And I've seen God 394 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: provide that for us as we've prayed and as we've 395 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 5: actively sought it out. So an example of this is 396 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 5: that I shared this recently on the podcast, but I'll 397 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 5: share again in case someone didn't hear it. Our oldest 398 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 5: son is getting ready to turn eighteen in a few months. 399 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: He's getting red to graduate. So y'all come pray me 400 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 5: through that. But it's actually good. 401 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: We're good. 402 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 5: But he had been in the youth group at our 403 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 5: church for a long time. And I stated before and 404 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 5: i'll state it again, that there's nothing wrong with our 405 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 5: youth group. I just felt like the Lord was saying 406 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 5: or leading us that he needed to be surrounded with 407 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 5: some older guys just a few years older than him, 408 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 5: that he could look to and see them trying to 409 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 5: live their life for the Lord. And we happen to 410 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 5: have a decent population of those guys in our church, 411 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 5: which I know is a gift to have those nineteen 412 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one something young adults that are really trying 413 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 5: to pursue the Lord and our men on top of that. 414 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 5: And so my husband and I made the decision to 415 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 5: ask the teacher of the young adult Sunday school class 416 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: if we could just go ahead and move him up early. 417 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 5: We just go ahead and move him into this class 418 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 5: because he needs to be able to see some guys 419 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 5: that are doing it and that can encourage him to 420 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 5: live the same way. And my son got hit by 421 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 5: a baseball in a baseball game the other day and 422 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 5: we ended up going to the emergency room. Everything was fine, 423 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 5: but one of the guys from his Sunday school class 424 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 5: just showed up and sat down with us while we 425 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 5: were waiting and looked him in the eyes and said, 426 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 5: what is God trying to teach you through this? 427 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: And I just wanted to stand up and cheer you did. 428 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 3: I'm not you go, But I would. 429 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 5: Have said the same thing, or his dad, one of 430 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 5: the two of us would have said, what is God 431 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 5: trying to teach you through this? But having another guy 432 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 5: that's way cooler than we are, look at him and 433 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 5: say the same thing, elicited an entirely different response. And 434 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: so I think you can pray that God will bring 435 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 5: those people into your children's lives, or maybe you can 436 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 5: actively seek them out yourself and try to make it 437 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: happen for your kids. I know, as they get older, 438 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 5: we have a little bit less control over some of 439 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 5: those things, but we can do what we can do. 440 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: You know, we may have a limit to what we 441 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 5: can do, but we don't have a limit to our prayers. 442 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 5: So I think that's just a fantastic tip as well. 443 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 5: So thank you so much. To see any final things 444 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 5: you would share with us as we get ready to 445 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 5: wrap up. 446 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 6: Well, yes, the only thing I would say is I 447 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 6: think even to look with your kids about scriptures that 448 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 6: are based on their identity and go over those over 449 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 6: and over again. So as we're recording this, we're a 450 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 6: week and a half out from the Nashville Covenant School shooting. 451 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 6: And I met with this high school girl that evening 452 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 6: after I had been at three re Unification center all day, 453 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 6: and she knew one of the little girls, and she 454 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 6: was really struggling, and she said you know, one of 455 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 6: the things I've realized is I want my faith to 456 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 6: be more important to me than it is. And she said, 457 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 6: we were at church earlier today and she said, my 458 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 6: mom was praying out loud in front of everyone, and 459 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 6: she said she had after Bible verse after Bible verse 460 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 6: that she said out loud, and she said, I don't 461 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 6: know verses like that. She said, you know, my dad 462 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 6: and I used to memorize scripture when I was little, 463 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 6: and I think I want to go back to doing 464 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 6: that again, because it seemed to give her a lot 465 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 6: of strength. 466 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 4: And I think that, I mean, we know. 467 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 6: For ourselves those verses are so much of where we 468 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 6: find our identity, and so the importance of helping kids 469 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 6: anchor to truth like that in all the things that 470 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 6: are going on in our society. In anxiety, it's one 471 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 6: of the things we talk about the most. And so 472 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 6: I think, however old your kids are, helping them find 473 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 6: their way to scripture that can help define them feels 474 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 6: like it just is of the utmost importance. 475 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: Amen, that's a great note to stop on. Sissy. 476 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for being a part of the 477 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 5: show today. You guys don't know this, but it was 478 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 5: very spur of the moment that I asked her, and 479 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 5: she cleared her schedule to give us some of her time, 480 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 5: and I'm so appreciative of that. Tell everybody where they 481 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 5: can learn more about you and get involved in what 482 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 5: you're doing for the kingdom. 483 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 6: Thank you, Brooke. Boys and Girls dot Com is our 484 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 6: website that has all things that we're doing, and I 485 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 6: am on Instagram trying to help as much as I 486 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 6: can there, and Sissy GoF on Instagram, and then David 487 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 6: Thomas and I have an account that's raising boys and girls. 488 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: So either of this, I hope you are following along 489 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: with us in our summer book club featuring the book 490 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: When Mothering Is Hard and No One Sees by Selene Roberts. 491 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: If you have not joined us yet, it's not too 492 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: late to jump in head to the homepage of our 493 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: website to find out more. Until next time, friends, the 494 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: Lord bless. 495 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 4: You and keep you. 496 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: Make his face shine upon you, and be gracious to 497 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 2: you me. The Lord look with favor on you, and 498 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: give you his peace.