WEBVTT - FIXING THE BIRTHRIGHT CRISIS 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.560 The Supreme Court decision on birthright citizenship has produced a 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.960 national crisis, but not for the reason that most people think. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.120 The crisis is not whether the Supreme Court, including its 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.720 Republican appointees, has been captured by the left. Nor is 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.680 it over whether illegals who have children in this country 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.360 can thereby confer citizenship on them. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.080 Neither of those things, as I'll explain, is really the 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:40.519 core problem. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.400 First of all, the Republican appointees on the Court are 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.360 not exactly rhinos or secret Democrats. Consider Amy Cony Barrett. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.080 She voted to get rid of Robi Wade, she gave 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.600 Trump immunity from prosecution. She voted to end affirmative action, 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.560 She expanded gun rights, She ended special black and minority 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.040 voting districts in just a few days ago, voted against 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:05.440 the right of biological males to compete in women's sports. Now, 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.760 Barrett is, as Trump knew before he appointed her, a 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.480 political and cultural conservative. Even so, I see on social 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.479 media that Barrett voted the way she did because she's 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.039 a woman and women don't have the capacity to govern, 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.479 or she's a DEI appointed to the Court, or her 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.760 decision is based on the fact that she and her 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:29.440 husband adopted Haitian children. Now I'm dubious about all this. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.080 Let's take up my second point. There are illegals who 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.240 have been in this country for twenty or even thirty years. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.360 I am not happy about this because they two broke 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:43.320 the law. Even so, no one, not even Clarence Thomas, 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.080 challenges the fact that their children in this country have 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:52.360 a constitutional right to be US citizens. Why because the 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:58.320 relevant constitutional phrase is quote subject to the jurisdiction thereof. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.440 It means subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.640 and quite obviously a family living here for decades is 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.320 subject to US jurisdiction. It doesn't owe its loyalty to 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:13.320 any other country. Moreover, one cannot pragmatically send these children 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.080 back to countries to which they have no ties and 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:20.120 whose language they very often do not speak. Thomas alludes 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.440 to this in his dissenting opinion. So what are we 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.920 talking about here. We're talking about birth tourism, which is 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.600 to say, about people who come to this country in 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.440 order to have children so that their children can automatically 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:35.960 become US citizens. 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.040 That's the core issue. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.880 Does the Constitution a firm births tourism as a right, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.839 and what, if anything, do we do about it. Let's 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:49.360 begin by noting that there's no good argument for birth tourism. Recently, 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.320 The New York Times had a long profile of a 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.200 Honduran woman who was deported from the country and then 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.120 travels seventeen hundred miles to sneak back in so her 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.960 child could be born in a Mayora. The profile was 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.160 intended to garner sympathy, and to some extent it does, 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.160 But even here it's quite obvious that birthright citizenship birth 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.360 tourism in this way should not be allowed. People should 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.760 not be able to go around our immigration laws and 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:18.639 do this, regardless of their long term aspirations for their children. Then, 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:23.119 on the darker side, investigative journalist Peter Schweitzer my friend Peter, 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.359 who has been profiled in more than one of my films, 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:30.160 reveals that the Chinese are running a sophisticated birthright scam 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.200 on the United States. Over the past ten years, Chinese 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:37.360 men have dispatched roughly one million Chinese women to come 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.560 and have kids in this country. The kids then go 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.640 back to China, but they are now dual citizens. They 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.080 can vote in US elections, and over time their kids 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.960 would also be US citizens, and this way the Chinese 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:54.040 gain important leverage in controlling the outcome of close US elections. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.440 Think about that, Given that we cannot give even a 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.840 single case in which birth tourism is disease, we can't 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.160 even imagine when it would be a good idea. It 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.760 is surpassingly strange that the Constitution seems to say that 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.920 there is an unqualified right for children born in this 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.360 country to be US citizens. It is even odder that 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:18.120 this practice has continued in this country for a century 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.880 and a half, and now an ideologically diverse majority on 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.279 the Supreme Court, three liberals and at least two conservatives 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:30.360 have affirmed that constitutional reading and that historical precedent. Sure, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:35.480 we can scream about the decision, we make outrageous demands. Recently, 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.600 I saw a social media post that we should nullify 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.160 the court ruling, we should require sterilization of foreign visitors 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.479 prior to entry, we should dissolve the union itself. This 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:50.200 is irresponsible rhetoric because it makes no sense and it's 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.200 never going to happen. We cannot solve this problem without 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:58.720 recognizing what the problem exactly is. So what is the problem? 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.719 Whenever we deal with issue of justice or jurisprudence. We 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.320 can resolve it in one of two ways. We can 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.400 look for a principle that governs the matter, or we 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.760 can look at the consequences of what we decide. If 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.599 we go with the principle or rule, we tend to 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.040 downplay or ignore the consequences. If we go with consequences, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.960 then we're willing to bend the principle or rule in 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.480 order to accommodate the outcome we want. This is such 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.919 a crucial distinction. I want to illustrate it with a 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.560 real life example. Consider a nerdy college student who makes 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.320 awkward sexual remarks to get noticed by girls. 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.039 He goes up to girls and talks to him about 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.440 porn or about his cat being in heat. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.279 Now, if this were to happen at an elite college 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.400 in say nineteen fifty, the dean would haul in the 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.880 kid and say, listen, weirdo, cut out that nonsense. I'm 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.920 giving you a warning, but if you do this again, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.480 I'm going to have you pack your bags and go 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:57.440 home for the semester. Now, this is justice by consequence. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.560 There are no rules. The dean basically looks at the 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.680 the kid's actions of cause and since the harm is 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.599 not so great, he makes a decision that keeps the 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.800 kid in school, but seeks to avoid a repetition of 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.680 the offending conduct. But today, that same college probably has 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.640 sexual harassment rules. Let's say the rule says that if 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.400 you sexually harass a girl, you'll be suspended for a 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.040 year or expelled. Now the dean has no discretion. You 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.760 violated the rule, and so he must send you home. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.240 This is justice by principle and rule. There is some discretion, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:33.560 ranging from suspension to expulsion, but only within the parameters 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:37.039 set by the rule. Now here's my point. There is 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:44.320 no room for consequences for consequential reasoning in our constitutional law. 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.000 There is room for such reasoning and other types of law. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.800 For instance, in the British common law, it's routine for 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.440 judges to ask, what are you asking me to do? 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.760 What will be the effects of me ruling this way 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.920 versus that way? Who will be affected by my ruling 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:04.520 and how? This is consequential reasoning, which considers rules and precedents, 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.440 but it also considers the results of the decision itself. 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.080 Notice that of the various opinions delivered by the Supreme 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:16.400 Court on the birthright citizenship issue. Not a single one 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:22.679 openly employed consequential reasoning or reasoning by consequences. Every single 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.960 one purported to affirm some sort of constitutional principle. Now, 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.440 I'm going to ignore the liberals here because their reasoning 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:30.920 is mostly gobbledegook. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:32.400 I'm going to focus only on. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.600 The Republicans because that's how today's Supreme Court decisions are decided. Now, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.920 the Conservatives broke into two camps, the majority camp with 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.040 the decision written by Chief Justice Roberts joined by Barrett, 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.040 and a dissident or minority camp with strong dissent by 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.800 Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. Justice Kavanaugh took a middle position, 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:57.520 basically siding with birthright citizenship but offering a narrow legislative 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.160 pathway to limit certain types of it. Now, let's look 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.840 at the majority's reasoning, which is reasoning from principle. The 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:09.120 majority says, the plain language of the Fourteenth Amendment affirms 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:14.800 birthright citizenship, and that of course would necessarily include birthright tourism. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:20.920 Anyone born here is automatically eligible for citizenship. Sure, there 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.200 is that textual qualification, subject to the jurisdiction thereof. But 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.520 the majority says that merely means that people who are 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.560 in America a subject to the jurisdiction of America and 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.960 the laws of America. Even a foreign tourist or ambassador 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.320 who's merely coming here residing here is at least to 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:37.199 some extent. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.840 Subject to our laws. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:44.240 Moreover, the majority camp of conservatives notes that birthright citizenship 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.960 has been the operating constitutional principle for one hundred and 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.280 fifty years since the end of the Civil War, when 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:54.960 the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted. Precedent in law gives support 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.800 and corroboration to constitutional principle. Something is more likely to 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.960 be rightly decided when courts for more than a century 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.720 have read it that way. Frankly, this is a pretty 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:10.320 strong principled case for birthright citizenship and yet justice as 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.320 Thomas and Alito take it on. Thomas and Alito basically 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.520 make two key points, both of which focus on the 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.800 intentions of the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment. First, the 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.080 framers intended through this amendment to give citizenship to the 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.559 former slaves and to their children born in this country. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.800 This was their clear purpose in enacting the constitutional change. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.920 The slaves were brought here against their will. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.920 They had no place else to go, no allegiance to 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.600 any foreign power. America was their only home, and they 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.640 were given citizenship for their children based on that second 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.800 a related point, the Framers did not intend to give 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.160 citizenship to the children of foreigners with no allegiance to 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.959 this country. That's why those who proposed the law made 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:59.040 it clear. The children of foreign ambassadors were excluded. The 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.480 children of others foreign diplomats didn't qualify. Obviously, the children 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.680 of an invading army wouldn't get citizenship by virtue of 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:11.040 being born here. Significantly, the children of American Indians didn't 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:15.079 qualify either. Why not because the Indian tribes were considered 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.960 foreign nations. In other words, their allegiance was to their 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.520 nation within a nation, not to the United States. Thomas 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.040 and Alito therefore interpret the phrase subject to the jurisdiction 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:31.920 thereof as referring not merely to geographical presence in America, 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:36.240 but rather to fundamental allegiance to the United States as 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.320 opposed to some other nation. Now notice that both camps 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:43.000 here are arguing in terms of principle. The majority camp 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:47.080 is emphasizing the seemingly plain language of the rule, while 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.640 the dissident camp is emphasizing the underlying motive or intention 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.280 of the framers of the rule. The two sides are 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.040 disagreeing on what the principle is, not on whether a 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:03.480 principle should decide the issue. Yet, the outrage over birthright 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:07.040 citizenship and specifically birth tourism has nothing to do with 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.240 any of this. It does not derive at all from 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.200 outrage over the underlying motives of the framers. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.160 To see this, let's do a thought experiment. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.480 Let's imagine that the founders did intend to make birthright. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:20.800 Citizenship a constitutional right. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.160 Let's assume that in the nineteenth century, when the country 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.600 had lots of empty space, the framers of the fourteen 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.319 Amendment felt, Hey, it's a big country. We don't mind 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.800 if anyone who comes here for any reason and has 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.560 a kid, that kid should be a US citizen. Now, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:37.880 with this diminished today in the least our profound conviction 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.520 that birthright citizenship and birth tourism are a menace and 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.640 must be stopped, would it make us go, oh, okay, 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.640 now that we know what those guys really meant, we're 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.080 going to just go along with it. 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:49.680 Of course not. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.360 Our point is that the circumstances have changed. The country 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.040 is now full. The people who are coming here have 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.120 very different goals and motives and the people who came 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.800 in the past. We're facing a national security threat from 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.160 countries like China that exploit our laws in this way. 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:12.160 In short, our opposition derives entirely from the consequences of birthrights, citizenship, 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:16.480 and birth tourism. I'm sure that dissenters like Alito and 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:21.280 Thomas are quite aware of the deleterious consequences, yet remarkably 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:26.160 they are prevented from openly stating these consequences in their opinions. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.360 Why is this, Well, it's. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:33.040 Because of fifty years of conservative jurisprudence we have taught them. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.520 We conservatives have collectively affirmed that it is not the 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.280 job of a judge to consider consequences. It is the 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:44.480 sole responsibility of judges to determine what the Constitution says, 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.920 illuminated in ambiguous cases by figuring out the intentions of 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:49.559 the framers. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.200 Once the judge has done that, his job is done. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:56.360 I'm sure that if you pressed a Chief Justice Robert 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.240 so Amy Coney Barrett with horror stories about birth tourism, 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.680 they would nod their heads and sympathy and say, well, yeah, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.719 but it's not our job to worry about outcomes. Our 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.880 job is to figure out and apply what the Constitution 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.160 says and what it means. Our task is one of ascertaining, meaning, 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.200 not deciphering, how the world will turn out if we 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.120 rule this way or that way. So that's what we 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.360 did here, And of course the dissenters who have been 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.200 raised in the same tradition must pretend that that is 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.240 also what they are doing. They must pretend that they're 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:32.480 concerned with birthright citizenship and birth tourism is not Honduran 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.120 women who sneak into the country with dubious motives, or 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.400 Chinese billionaires who are trying to change the electoral landscape, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.719 but rather with the correct way to parse the phrases 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.360 in the text, either by consulting their dictionary meaning or 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.960 by excavating the motives. 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.040 Of their drafters. 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.200 I hope you can see here that I'm trying to 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:56.040 identify not merely the defects of this particular ruling, which 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.240 flies in the face of all sound reasoning and common sense, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:04.959 but also to highlight a defect in our constitutional jurisprudence itself. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.160 What am I saying. I'm saying it's time to put 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:11.880 thirty years of conservative jurisprudence on trial. Why, because we 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.439 have talked our way into a box. We have elevated 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:20.440 original meaning and original intent jurisprudence into our highest constitutional principle, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.440 and in doing so, our Supreme Court conservatives are forced 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.960 to make decisions entirely within this framework. And as we 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.240 can see from this single but crucially important case, the 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.520 framework is inadequate. In fact, the framework almost by itself 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.680 dictates the outcome. And if we keep the framework, we 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.480 risk the very destruction of the country. If we say, yeah, 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.760 but what else can we do, we're basically saying that 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:49.120 in order to keep our jurisprudential principle, we are willing 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:53.720 to give up the country itself. Consequences be damned, No, 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.120 this is ridiculous. Consequences must be taken into account, and 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:03.440 within our jurisprudence itself. We need a maga jurisprudence that 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.920 is not a rejection of Reaganized jurisprudence, but one that 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.520 updates so modifies the Reagan approach to the new situation 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.600 in which we find ourselves today. Doesn't this in a 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:18.200 way describe the whole MAGA movement. Policy solutions are not sufficient. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.800 It's not enough to say, Okay, well let's stop pregnant 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.000 people from coming to this country. Okay, well let's stop 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:28.400 all immigration. Okay, let's prosecute criminal birth tourism schemes. Basically, 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.760 this approach is a way of saying, we're stuck in 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.480 this terrible box. So let's think of creative, even if 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.320 somewhat bizarre, ways to find some small holes in the box. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.720 But the best way to get out of the box 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.920 is to open the box and step out. How do 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.800 we do this, My answer is really simple. We have 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:54.000 to reintroduce consequential reasoning into our constitutional jurisprudence. Now, this 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.720 consequential reasoning doesn't mean you can't have principles, but it 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.120 does mean that principles must give way to reasonable exceptions 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:05.640 when the consequences are bad. Stop applying the principle In short, 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.920 create exceptions. By the way, we do this now with 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:13.200 some of our fundamental constitutional principles, consider the First Amendment, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.320 protection of free speech. Quote Congress shall make no law 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:20.040 restricting freedom of speech end quote. Or really, we have 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.080 all kinds of laws that restrict speech. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:22.680 Here are a few. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.760 You can't shout fire in a crowded theater if there's 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.920 no fire. You can't use free speech to offer to 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.760 bribe a public official. You can't conspire through speech to 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.920 commit crimes. You can't threaten the life of the president. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.400 You can't even go into a neighborhood with a big 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.280 bullhorn and shout slogans all day. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:40.840 But why not. 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.640 Doesn't the Constitution say? Well, yes, it does say, but no. 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.640 One wants to live in a society where speech is 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:52.920 used in these deleterious ways. The consequences in these important 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:58.040 cases override the principles. So we have a yes, but application. Yes, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.840 we believe in free speech in most cases, but not 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.160 in this one, and not in that one, and not. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.000 In these other cases either. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.679 I think we need to convince our conservatives on the 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.080 Supreme Court and conservatives around the country that our previous 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:15.639 approach to jurisprudence is inadequate, not wrong, but incomplete. We 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.480 need to make room for reasonable exceptions based on an 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.680 evaluation of the consequences. This might require a new test case, 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.760 perhaps one involving Chinese birthright tourism, to get before the 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.600 Supreme Court. 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They 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:10.760 can print dollars, but they cannot print crypto. That's dneshcrypto 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:19.200 dot com. Ken it seems that there's a project underway, 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:25.240 led by a bunch of activists to islamlify the state 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.520 of Texas, to bring Islam to Texas and to increase 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.439 the influence of Islam in Texas. Just something that worries. 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:33.880 He was just a good thing or a bad thing. 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.119 So look, I've always been a First Amendment I believe 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.960 with the constitition, with the Founders put in place in 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:43.040 the First Amendment of free speech, free expression of religion. 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.479 I think it's been fundamental to our country to have 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.560 that freedom. But we when we look at what's going 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.320 on in Europe and countries being taken over and allowing 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.480 Sharia law and the influence of Shria law to take 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:59.160 over the legal system. That's where I start having difficulties 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.359 because those law laws are in conflict with our constitution 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:05.720 and sometimes in conflict with federal and state laws. And 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.919 when that's occurring, that is a concern to me because 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:13.080 we will lose our constitutional republic and our freedoms if 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:14.520 we do not protect those laws. 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:21.200 Some people say that the issue is Islamic radicalism or extremism, 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.760 and we heard that kind of vocabulary going back to 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:29.080 nine to eleven. Other people think that it is Islam itself. 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:31.560 Which do you think it is? 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:32.800 So I don't know. 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:37.160 All I know is that As a lawyer, the thing 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.119 that I can address is the law. I can't address 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.280 whether somebody in their heart has bad intentions. I can 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.879 only address what they actually do in their behavior. So 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:49.000 if they are violating state law or they are violating 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.639 the Constitution, that we can try to address that, and 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:55.959 we have. We've sued different entities that have tried to 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:59.160 promote either Shari law or they have tried to promote 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.439 violation of our state and state and federal laws. And 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.639 that's where I come in. Whether they have bad intent 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.400 I don't know. I just I know that we don't 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.040 have problems with people that are peace loving and that 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.320 are willing to follow our laws. I can't really address 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:18.800 that because the Constitution created an environment where that's possible. 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.480 You just can't be violent, you can't promote terrorism, you 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.800 can't promote different laws in our country. And that's the 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.680 defining to me, Those are the defining issues. 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.760 Over the centuries, we've had many people come to America 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:36.160 from the outside, and initially it was the Irish, the Italians, 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:40.679 the Jews. Later you have people coming from outside of 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:45.320 Western civilization, and by and large, it seems that the 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:49.840 structures of the Constitution were quite adequate to deal with that. Right, 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.160 If you are Hindu and you want to practice Hinduism, 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:57.960 no problem, however, just don't break the law. The trick 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:00.720 that I want to raise with you, you have with 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:07.639 Islam a religion that is also a worldview and a 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:13.120 jurisprudence and an educational system, so that the mosque functions 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:16.000 a little differently in Islam than say a Hindu temple 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:20.080 or a church. And so do you think that the 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:25.760 Constitution by itself adequately deals with the issues raised by Islam? 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:27.080 Yeah, I think it does. 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:31.119 What maybe we haven't focused on is state and federal 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:35.359 law addressing the problems that come about when they follow 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.359 Sharer law as oppose following our laws. So I don't 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:43.080 think we've fully contemplated how to address that from state legislature, 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:48.159 from the federal government, and the legislature in Washington, d C. 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.159 But the Constitution, I think is pretty open to just 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:53.080 free expression. 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.159 I don't have to agree with you. 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.159 As long as you are following our laws, you're not violent, 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:02.440 you're not promoting harmed the people, and you're just freely worshiped. 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.320 I can completely disagree with you, and that's all fine, 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.600 and we can still have a society that I think 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:11.000 functions the way that the founders intenda which with complete freedom. 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:12.320 And by the way, you have. 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.520 The opportunity to express your views and try to convince 0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:17.720 me that you're right. And I had the right to 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.760 express my view and try to convince you that possibly 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:21.200 I'm right. 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:27.119 Let's say that I'm coming at this from the Islamic perspective, 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:29.960 and I have the idea that here I am in America, 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.760 and we have all these freedoms, and I'm going to 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.480 use these freedoms but to get me to a destination 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:40.639 where I'm strong enough to start extinguishing them one by one. So, 0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.960 for example, I'm going to run my guys for school board. 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.840 I'm going to run them for city council. I'm going 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.480 to try to expand the number of Muslims and the Congress, 0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:50.120 for example. 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:51.760 And our goal is. 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.840 Shari a law, but not surely a law. Now, Shari 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.520 a law when we're strong enough to insist upon it. 0:25:57.880 --> 0:25:59.920 And again when we insist upon it, we won't insist 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.000 upon it like Sharia for the whole country. 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:02.800 It'll be well. 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.800 Listen, we need to have these no go zones where 0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.040 keep the cops out keep the laws we'll have, sure 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:13.400 we form Muslims in those areas, and then you expand 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:14.280 outward from there. 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:15.679 In other words, what I'm. 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:19.240 Getting at is using the passport of our liberties to 0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:23.560 take us to a destination that would crush those liberties. 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:25.840 Yeah, look, I would be completely opposing that. 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:31.360 Obviously, these are what most people come here to live under, 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.359 which is the freedom that we have versus other countries. 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.840 So if there are groups, if there are Muslim groups 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.199 trying to do that, I think we have to oppose them. 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.399 We have, and this is why elections matter. This is 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.480 why people have to show up at elections if they're 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:48.879 organizing better and they can try to influence policy towards 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.520 that direction. I mean, if we're not fighting it, we 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.240 can definitely lose our country from inside. And certainly that's 0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.359 not what I want and I would do everything I 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.639 could to fight that and oppose that. But that's why 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:00.639 Americans have to pay attention to what's going on, and 0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:04.400 they can't just believe everything that the media feeds them. 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.040 They need to understand what's really going on. 0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:11.119 The reason I think the sort of theological aspect is relevant. 0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.439 And i'd like you as a lawyer to sort of 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.639 take stock of this. Is America's based on we the people, 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.520 and the fundamental idea is that the people are the 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:26.040 source of the laws. Islam is based on the idea 0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:29.000 that the laws are handed down from on high. Allah 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.520 makes the law that's the meaning of Shariah, so that 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.320 the people have nothing to do with it. The people 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.480 are merely the instruments of Allah in like carrying out 0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.360 those laws. And as I look at these two things, 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.399 they are kind of radically opposed to each other. Not 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.280 opposed on the edges, they're opposed fundamentally. 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:48.760 Yeah, I do would disagree with that. 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:52.040 I think that sharial law is in direct conflict with 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:56.280 our constitution, with state law and some federal law. So 0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.679 I think, yes, if you are promoting a separate system 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:03.400 of law that comes from Allah versus what comes from 0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.520 the people, the people who elect their representatives to make 0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.439 these laws, that's a real problem. And I consider that 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.000 a real problem. 0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:16.040 Is it possible to say that Islam is the problem 0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.960 not necessarily Muslims, And by that I mean you could 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.600 have a Muslim guy that is or is not in 0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:28.240 sort of full conformity with the kind of deep down 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:32.159 doctrines of Islam. So the issue isn't the Muslim but 0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:36.480 it is the ideology, which, as I said, is not 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:41.200 just a theology, but includes a philosophy and a jurisprudence 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.760 and really a comprehensive doctrine of society. 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:44.160 Yeah. 0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:47.080 So if you're following that doctrine that we all have 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:51.640 to be under Sharia law, that somehow terrorism harming people 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:57.040 is is is okay because we have a greater goal here. 0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:58.800 Yeah, that's a real problem. 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.960 And I think that if that is what is going 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.080 on in certain segments of Islam, that does not work 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.720 with our constitutional form of government. It does not even 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:11.000 work with the idea that we're free, because that's controlled 0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.200 by a few people, not everybody. 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.520 How do you handle the politics of this. You're campaigning 0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:22.520 for the Senate. There are Muslims in the state of Texas. 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.240 I assume you want at least some of them, maybe 0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.960 a lot of them to vote for you. If the 0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.320 Muslim goes, hey, listen, I'm a Muslim, so I subscribe 0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.640 to the Quran, and whatever it says in the Quran, 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.800 I may not know everything in there, but whatever it 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.880 says I'm on board with. And you're telling me that 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.760 there's something wrong with my religion. How would you answer that? 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:47.240 First, I don't have to agree with anybody's religion. I don't. 0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:48.600 I mean, I have my own faith. 0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:52.520 It's different from many faith but that doesn't mean we 0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:58.200 can't agree that certain people are better representing us in 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.440 the US Senate or in Congress. It's not based on 0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.240 necessarily do I agree with every tenet of every religion. 0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.440 I don't. I have known faith that is different than 0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:08.120 many faiths. 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.160 But I have people from all kinds of faiths that 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.160 are willing to support me because they like the agenda, 0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.880 the freedom agenda that we promote, one that is based 0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.520 on the Constitution, that's based on the power coming from 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.640 the people and being accountable to them. And I would 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.800 assume that there are some Muslims that actually want that. 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.280 They came here for the freedom that we all experience, 0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.520 and if you want something different, my push to them 0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.600 would be, then go somewhere different. 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.200 Here's a hypothetical which is not that far from from 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.280 what's happening in Texas. So an Islamic group comes to you, 0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.520 you're in the Senate, and they say, hey, we want 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:49.080 to buy five thousand acres of land in Texas. It's 0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.040 the free market. We're going to pay with our own money. 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.040 We want to construct the largest mosque in Texas. 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:55.720 We want to create. 0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.479 A madrasa school from Muslim boys. And yeah, we're going 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.040 to be teaching the Koran and we're going to be 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:04.240 teaching sure, real law. But you believe in free markets, 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.800 you believe in free speech, you believe in freedom of religion. 0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.400 On what grounds would you oppose us? You should be 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:13.160 supporting us, because this is a conservative thing that we're doing. 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:14.520 What would you say. 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.440 I would say, you have every right to express your 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.880 religion however you want to. Whatch you don't have a 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:25.040 right to do is impose those laws on a segment 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.560 of the population that are different than the laws that 0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:31.280 the overall population of that state or of the United 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.120 States has put in place. That you can't do that 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.680 in the United States. So you can talk about any 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.240 issue you want to. It can be very extreme, it 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.760 can be very as long as you're not promoting harming people. 0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:44.680 You can have all the views you want that are 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:46.800 different than anything that I might think is right. It's 0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.160 your right in this country to have different views, to 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.080 express those views, to worship however you want to, but 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:56.120 you cannot impose your own legal system that is separate 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.240 and apart from the legal system that we have in 0:31:58.240 --> 0:31:58.640 this country. 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.360 That is unconstitutional and is not acceptable. 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:08.400 You just went through a bruising but ultimately highly successful 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:13.920 campaign against Cornin. Now people sometimes call Cornin a rhino, 0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:17.560 but he wasn't a rhino in the sense that he 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:21.640 wasn't one of these guys who was constantly subverting the 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.040 Republican or the Trump or the MAGA agenda. 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:25.200 He claimed. 0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:28.160 I think, with some justification, I'm mostly on board with Trump, 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.320 and yet you were able to challenge him, expose him, 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:35.920 and defeat him, and quite easily and decisively. How did 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:36.400 you do that? 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.240 I think just exposing his record that he did have 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.960 certain issues, whether it was Second Amendment, whether it was 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.160 the border, whether it's just being not in favor of 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:48.120 Trunk being elected. 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:48.760 Either time. 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.840 It's one thing to talk about, it's another thing to 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.000 show proof of that. And so I think, you know, 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:58.000 I always tell people look at the record, not the rhetoric, 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.720 and the record is oftentimes different than the rhetorican in 0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.920 this case, I think that proved to be true. 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:04.400 So you know, we need to move on. 0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:08.440 I'm ready to move on and focus on the next round. 0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.240 We've got to unite all the Republicans, whether you've voted for. 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:11.760 Me or not. 0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.640 We've got to defeat this guy, James tell Rico, who 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:18.280 is I think the most radical politician that has ever 0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.040 run in Texas, and he's out in San Francisco right 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.880 now raising money from the people that he actually agrees with. 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:27.360 Making an important point here, I think, which is that 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.320 you actually need the corn in voters to come over 0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.440 to your side, and you get them in part by 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.480 exposing how bad taal Rico is right. 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.959 And just because John and I had disagreements, they're not 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.600 the same kind of disagreements that I have with James Tealerrico. 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.480 Those are much Those are like as wide of a 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.680 chasm as you can get. John and I had disagreements 0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.280 over certain issues, but it isn't like being I mean, 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.640 he was a Republican and so we do have some similarities. 0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.640 And when you're in elections, you have to pick. You 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.640 only have two choices in selection. You have to pick 0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.000 the one that you think is going to best represent you. 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.360 And in this case, you couldn't have a more diverse choice. 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.640 I'm trying to understand this tallaryical phenomenon, because if I 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.040 were running the DNC or or the Democratic Party in Texas, 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.759 I would say, look, it's really important to get some 0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.359 guy who is very centrist to run in Texas. It's 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.880 a red state. How on earth are we going to 0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.839 beat a Paxton. We need a guy who's sort of 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.200 a rancher. We need a guy who's kind of like 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.440 a man's man. We need a guy who's sort of 0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.360 right leaning, at least on certain issues. 0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:35.600 They don't do that. 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:41.080 They go find this Tallarico character who you know, he 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.480 puts on a cowboy hat three times the size of 0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.680 his head, and he has a photo of him in 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.640 a truck. But it seems to be a masquerade. And 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.760 my question is, why are the Dems going for a masquerade? 0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.280 Why don't they try to find a real candidate. 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.799 Maybe they can't. Maybe they can't. I think that may 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:57.520 be the real problem. 0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.080 So they're going with They're going with the personality as 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:04.000 opposed to real character that represents the values of Texas. 0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.400 They couldn't have picked anybody worse to represent the values 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:07.920 of Texas. 0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.080 So what do they do? 0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:14.759 This is typical of them, they masquerade as somebody that 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.719 is different than what they actually are. So if you 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:20.400 look at James Talerico's actual views, he's running from all 0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:21.640 of them, all the ones that he ran on in 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:23.960 the primary, all the ones that he supported in the 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:28.320 Texas legislature. Now suddenly he's adopting not just a little 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.839 different version, completely different version. 0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.239 I am not that guy. What did he say? 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.080 I was taking his cringy comments and focusing on them. 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.920 I know, I'm taking your real positions on issues that 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.280 are very radical for Texas that would fit in San Francisco, 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.839 because that's obviously why he's there, because he knows those 0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.600 people will write checks to him because they want him 0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.600 to represent Texas, and they're using their money to make 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:52.080 that happen. 0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.799 Tall Rico has a very well, he would call it 0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:02.680 a progressive Christianity. It appears to be, at least for 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:08.200 traditional Christians, a very strange doctrine because he'll talk about 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:13.400 the fact that you know, Mary, in conceiving Jesus was 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:18.320 actually exercising the pro choice position, or he'll talk about 0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:24.080 God being non binary. I mean, this is not normally 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:28.720 the stuff of politics, because it's getting into the issues 0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.840 of theology. But how do you how do you respond 0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:32.400 to this kind of exotica. 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:37.200 Say, it's it's he's deceptive, it's not the theology of Christianity, 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:41.480 of any kind of historical Christianity that he holds, And 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.680 it's it's dangerous because he's he's deceiving people about what 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:50.279 these scriptures actually say. There's very few historical Christians that 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:53.200 would agree with his view that that somehow abortion is 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.759 approved by Mary and the range between marry and God, 0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.960 that God's non binary. You know that there are six genders. 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.160 That is not historical Christianity. That is a something else. 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.160 It's that I would consider antithetical to Christianity. It would 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.840 be it would be views that were actually opposed by scripture, 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.239 that are opposed by most Christians. So I think it's 0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.759 it's a little scary that he is promoting himself as 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.759 a pastor and somebody that's an expert on the scriptures, 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.440 when in reality he has in his head what he 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:25.400 wants and he goes out and creates scriptural basis for 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:27.280 making up his own Bible. 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.440 And is your campaign strategy pretty simple, which is just 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:37.000 take these positions, these extreme positions theological political highlight them 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.600 kind of put it in people's faces, and they're going 0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:41.759 to the ordinary text and is going to go, I'm 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:43.200 not on board with that. I mean, do you have 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:44.799 to do anything more than that in this right now? 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:46.280 That's it's pretty simple. 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.319 The campaign is let people know, because you know, no 0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:51.839 one really knows James Seller here. What have he's been 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.520 in the sex legislature. What are his accomplishments He has 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:55.400 virtually none. 0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:57.759 So what we have is his. 0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.839 Promoting certain things, him voting against For instance, when they 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:04.640 tried to ban transitioning children, he. 0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:05.359 Voted against him. 0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.080 But now he says he's not for transitioning kids. Well, 0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.200 then why did you vote that way? So it's really 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.800 easy for him to come back off of these issues 0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:14.279 and say he's not. 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.000 He doesn't believe those anymore. 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.399 Those are just cringey issues that I took to use 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.080 against them. No, these are the things you promoted while 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:24.840 you were a representatives. You were doing interviews, promoting these views, 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:28.920 and now suddenly you know you can't win in Texas. California, yes, 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.360 San Francisco, yes, where you are now, but you cannot 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.200 win in Texas holding the views that James Tallerica holds 0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:35.000 and So what does he do. 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:35.920 He runs from all of them. 0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.560 Now, you know he was ahead of vegan campaign because 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.200 you know we're harming the environment by eating meat. 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.439 Now you see him doing videos eating meat. 0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.000 He claimed that the flag was a complicated, you know 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.960 American symbol that you know has its issues. 0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.920 Well, now he's wearing a flag is his shirt. So 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:53.399 he is. 0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:57.560 Running away from almost every single position that he knows 0:38:58.080 --> 0:38:59.279 Texans won't vote for him. 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.960 Well, no, I don't believe those anymore. Vote for me anyway. 0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.240 We're going to put those back and say, wait a minute, 0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.920 how do you justify what you said and how you 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:08.719 voted with what you're telling us now? 0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:09.520 Are you a liar? 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.680 Or did you have a radical transformation when you won 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.040 the Democratic primary and now you're in a general what happened? 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.600 Well, seems to me he's in a trap because he 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:23.040 could say I have really undergone a conversion, sort of 0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:24.680 like I used to be an atheist and now I'm 0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:26.799 a Christian. I used to be a vegan now. But 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.239 usually people who have those transformations have got to give 0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.359 a sincere and believable account of how they got from 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.640 here to there. I think the problem is that for 0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:40.319 him he's got to convince the liberal billionaires who give 0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:43.319 him money, no, I'm still with you. And at the 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:47.319 same time he's got to convince the Texans I'm with you. Right. 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.160 So isn't he forced to play this double game where 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.080 he speaks, as they used to say, with four kid tongue. 0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:56.160 If he'd actually had a transformation, what he have spent 0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:00.279 several days in San Francisco raising money, he had a 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:04.279 real transformation, he would be very vocal about that transformation. 0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:06.800 And those people in San Francisco who are trying to 0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.920 help him become the next US centator from Texas would 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.879 not be supporting him. Would They would be running from 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:18.160 him because if he was being honest then with them 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:20.800 about those views, they wouldn't support him. So he's playing 0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.720 it both ways, right. He's raising money under the umbrella 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:27.000 of who he really is. He's running publicly in Texas 0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:30.200 under the umbrella no, I'm not that guy, even though 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:31.640 I raise all my money from those people and I 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:33.800 tell them that I am that guy. Believe me, please, 0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.399 I don't believe any of those views. Now that I'm 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.640 running for Texas senator, I'm out of the primary. 0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.799 Let's talk about this save Act because one of the 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.719 actually I think master strokes of your campaign is you 0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.759 at one point even declared, Hey, if the Senate will 0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.759 pass the Save Act and if Cornyn and Thune will 0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.480 push this through, I'll get out of the race. They 0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.920 didn't do it, And my question is why didn't they 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.680 do it? I mean, this is a voter ID has. 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.680 Widespread public support. It's an eighty twenty issue. 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.160 As some people like to say, why on earth would 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.839 Republicans who know this and they can see the data 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.200 as well as you and I can. What's going on 0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.759 with the Senate and with the sort of establishment that 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:18.640 you've been to some degree running against. 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:22.200 Yeah, so there apparently are Republican centers some who are 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:26.319 leaving that don't believe that's a worthy bill, and I 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.719 don't understand it. I don't think there is a more 0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.080 worthy bill up there, because we do not protect our 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:35.400 elections with the photo ID, making sure that non citizens 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:37.720 are not voting, making sure that our mail in ballots 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:39.880 are not being used to defraud us, which they are 0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:41.720 all over the country and they tried to do it here. 0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:44.319 We none of our issues are going to matter. 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.839 So oh, yeah, you can protect the filibuster all you want, 0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.400 but if we lose control of all of these states, 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.160 we're not going to have a Republican majority anyway, because 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:53.640 they're going to cheat in all these dates. They already 0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:55.400 doing in most of the Democratic states. It's why we 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.120 can't win them. They why does it take? You know, 0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.840 however many days count ballots in California, it takes a 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.040 little while to cheat. 0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.439 And they are absolutely with mail in ballots. We don't 0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:07.600 know who's voting. If you don't if you can mail 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:08.640 up mail, abust. 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.239 Everybody, and you have no idea through photo ID or 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.120 through at least a signature verification, who's sending him back. 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.880 One hundred percent, there is fraud going on at a 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:21.200 massive level. And if we are not going to fix 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.520 that as Republicans, and we will, we have something to 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:25.600 count on in the future, which is a Democratic majority 0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.239 that we can never unsea because once they rig the 0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.000 elections in these states and we haven't fixed them in time, 0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.080 that when we've lost our majority, game over none of 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.040 our issues matter anyway. So I don't know how you 0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:40.440 defend a filibuster, as valuable as that might be to 0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:41.680 stop bad legislation. 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:42.799 I do not disagree with that. 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.480 I like the filibuster from the standpoint being a minority, 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.720 but we are at a crucial stage in our history 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:53.000 that if we do not protect elections, the filibuster has 0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:53.520 no meaning. 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:58.000 Do you think that the reason that that Thune is 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.160 acting the way he is is he has thew you 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:05.160 kind of the Marquis of Queensbury rules, which is, hey, listen, 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.400 we need to protect the filibuster because we want to 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.920 make sure that they don't get rid of the filibuster. 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:16.200 But of course they the Democrats, if they were in 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:19.439 our position, would have done it anyway. And second of all, 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.719 they're getting ready to do it when they need to 0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:25.319 when they're in power. So we are our side is 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:29.400 resting on a kind of gentleman's agreement, with no confidence 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.200 that we're dealing with gentlemen in the first place. 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:32.600 Yeah, And I think part of it is, you know, 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.239 if you look at the US Senate, he doesn't have 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:36.400 the member. 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.200 Votes to get it done. And that to me is 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:38.640 a problem. 0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:42.600 That's a sad problem for the republic majority that cannot 0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:46.600 govern because we don't have the wisdom to see what's 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:48.920 coming at us. And you know, they're going to hold 0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:50.840 onto their seats for a little while longer, but eventually 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:52.800 they're not going to be able to maintain the majority 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:57.480 because if the elections are not fair and free of 0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:02.719 most fraud, this idea that they're somehow protecting against being 0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.960 a minority is just you know, it's a pipe dream. 0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.840 It's not gonna work out. 0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.840 Taller Rico seems to me one of his weapons that 0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:17.800 he's already started like unfurling against you, is he says, 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:21.200 I'm a straight lace guy. Ken has a very checker 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:24.520 and he's been impeached. He's got this, he's got accusations 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:28.520 of extramarrial affairs. Texans need to vote for the straight 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:32.440 lace tallar Rico and not the dubious Ken Paxton. 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.040 Well, first of all, you'll know that when you are 0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.880 fighting the fight, you know what happens. They come after you. 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.800 It's what happened to Donald Trump. Matter of fact, I 0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:44.920 have a very similar history with him. I mean we've 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:48.000 both been impeached. He's been impeached twice, I've been impeached once. 0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.440 We've both gone through indictments. He's had more indictments. But 0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:54.320 when you're in the middle of the fight with the 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:58.200 left and even some of the establishment. They come after you, 0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.120 and look, why does it not matter that they have 0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.120 to prove what they actually are accusing you of, and 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.560 yet they go on accusing you as if you've. 0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.040 Done it with no proof. 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.080 So what I would say is, these are people that 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:11.840 they don't want to talk about the issues. 0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.839 They want to talk about personal stuff. They don't want to. 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:16.719 Talk about the issues because they know that if we're 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:21.200 talking about James Talerico's positions on boys and girls sports, 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:25.800 on transitioning children, on saying that you know he's running 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:29.200 a vegan campaign, on saying that God's non binary, the 0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.840 list goes onto saying that you can't be Christian and 0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:34.960 spoil the you know, oil and gas industry. These are 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:37.640 things that he doesn't want to talk about. So let's 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.399 make it personal. Let's not talk about all my bad 0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.160 positions that will hurt the country. 0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.239 Let's try to make him look like he's a bad guy. Well, 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:45.560 guess what. 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.799 The voters of Texas have spoken many many times. They've 0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:50.960 been coming after me for over a decade. They came out, 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.400 They've come after Trump Trump for over a decade, and 0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.200 the people of Texas will see through it. 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.280 Ken, what are some things that you did as Attorney 0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:05.480 General to deal with the problem of the Islamification of Texas. 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.560 So my focus is always in the law. 0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.799 I'm a lawyer, I represent the state, I represent all 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:15.120 the agencies of governor or legislature. So one we've defended 0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:20.560 when the Muslim Brotherhood and Cares sued the governor when 0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:24.960 he eliminated certain practices. But also when we've seen examples 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:31.879 of certain entities Islam related who are not following Texas law, 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:34.960 we've sued him or we've investigated him. So we've shut 0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:38.040 down certain developments out in Coffin County. We've sued over 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.319 the Epic City over a couple of different issues. One 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.160 is violation of state security laws. We also think they 0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:47.120 violiated federal securities laws. And then we also. 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:49.960 Think they did not appropriately manage the way. 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:52.160 The process is supposed to be done with open meetings 0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.640 and the way those are supposed to be accomplished. 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:55.480 So we suit them over that. 0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:59.080 So when you don't follow our laws, then we are going. 0:46:58.880 --> 0:46:59.520 To address that. 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.720 As i SA said earlier, if you want to go worship, 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:03.799 you go worship the way you want. If you want 0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:08.000 to exist in our society, you have to follow our state, 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:11.080 our federal and our constitution. That's where I come in 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.319 to try to focus on. If you're not doing that, 0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:14.160 we're going to stop you. 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:17.839 Would it be fair to say that your position, even 0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.919 where broadly can be summarized like this, that if there 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.359 are Islamic groups that are running a foul of the law, 0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.279 you can count on the authorities, or you should count 0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.560 on the authorities to be able to crack down on it. 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.520 But if you have a larger problem, let's say, you know, 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:35.920 you think that Islam is changing the cultural environment of Texas, 0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:38.560 or there are too many mosques in the suburbs, then 0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.680 guess what. It's your job as a voter to step 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:45.640 forward and be as active as the Muslims apparently are 0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:50.239 in exercising your ballot and voting for the Texas that 0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:50.640 you want. 0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:55.560 Absolutely, this is fundamental to a free society. It's fundamental 0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:59.760 with the founder's envision was direct involvement of the people. 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.360 Put the power in the hands of the people. And 0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.920 if you're not paying attention, if you're not paying attention 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.080 to the issues around you, whether positive or negative, and 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:11.040 you're not voting, then guess what. You can lose your 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:13.440 state We've seen it happen. You can lose your country. 0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.440 We've seen other countries loss. 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