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Speaker 2: Okay, it's Monday, January the fifth, twenty twenty six. It's

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Speaker 2: d C. It's a rough day, by the way, for

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Speaker 2: socialist dictators. First Maduro. Now Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes past this hour today Professor Nicholas B.

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Speaker 2: has a piece in the Wall Street Journal this morning

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Speaker 2: about the clear legality of what President Trump has done

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Speaker 2: in Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: Will get his views.

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Speaker 2: At thirty three minutes past the hour, Rich Lowry, editor

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Speaker 2: We'll ask him about walls, among other things. And now

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Speaker 2: for the news. President Donald J. Trump bringing the new

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Speaker 2: year by sending the US military and law enforcement personnel

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Speaker 2: to Venezuela, where we arrested Nicholas Maduro, the illegitimate president

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Speaker 2: of the country. We brought him to the United States

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Speaker 2: to face justice. He has been in court just a

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Speaker 2: little while ago. He says he is not guilty. We'll

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Speaker 2: keep an eye on what Maduro had to say just

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Speaker 2: a few minutes ago in court in New York City.

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Speaker 2: He has indicted along with his wife for narco terrorism,

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Speaker 2: conspiracy and cocaine importation, conspiracy and weapons charges.

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Speaker 3: This is not jaywalking, folks.

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Speaker 2: Once again, a competent commander in chief, supported by the

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Speaker 2: most ruthlessly lethal armed force the Earth has ever known,

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Speaker 2: has expertly carried out a mission no US service members

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Speaker 2: were killed in this operation.

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Speaker 3: It took about ninety minutes. Hardest hit in all of this.

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Speaker 2: Democrats, who have been revealed as complete and total hypocrites, empty,

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Speaker 2: broken brained partisans. Now they used to accuse Trump of

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Speaker 2: being soft on Maduro. Why oh, you guessed it because

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Speaker 2: of Maduro's ties to Russia. Putin did support Maduro, Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden tweeted in twenty twenty, Trump talks tough on Venezuela

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Speaker 2: but admires thugs and dictators like Nicholas Maduro. The allegation

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Speaker 2: from Democrats was that Trump would never do anything about

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Speaker 2: Maduro because Putin supported Maduro, and Trump admires Putin and.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah, blah blah. Let's listen to some of the hacks.

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Speaker 2: I have to credit, by the way, the brilliant May's

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Speaker 2: More for digging up a lot of this on his

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Speaker 3: At May's More.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Senate Democrat leader Chuck Schumer. Today he

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Speaker 2: says Trump is illegal and reckless to arrest Maduro. What

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Speaker 2: tune was he singing in twenty twenty. Let's take a

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Speaker 2: listen to cut ten Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 4: She brags about all these things he wants to do

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Speaker 4: or is doing, but his actions belie his words. Maybe

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Speaker 4: the best metaphour was his claim to bring democracy to Venezuela.

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Speaker 5: There was a big policy there. It flopped.

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Speaker 4: If the policy was working, Juan Guido wouldn't be in

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Speaker 4: to win. He's here, and the president brags about his

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Speaker 4: end to the Maduro regime. The Miduro regime is more

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Speaker 2: Oh, I wonder what Chuck Schumer would think about twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer, who's next? Let's see? How about Chris Murphy,

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Speaker 2: one of the most dishonest partisan hacks in Washington, senator

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Speaker 2: his rank hypocrisy. In twenty nineteen, he wanted Maduro gone,

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Speaker 6: In twenty nineteen, you wrote a not beed and you

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Speaker 5: You said, let's get one thing straight.

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Speaker 6: There should no longer be any debate about Maduro's lack

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Speaker 6: to this crisis. A return to a stable democracy is

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Speaker 6: in the interests of the Venezuelan people and the United

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Speaker 6: States and the hemisphere. We don't know what's going to

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Speaker 2: Isn't that what you want?

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Speaker 7: Well, the rest of that article was a criticism of

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Speaker 7: President Trump's early moves to saber rattle around resilda change.

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Speaker 2: Shameless partisan hacks. How about Kamala Harris. She released a

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Speaker 2: statement this weekend attacking Trump for being quote unlawful and unwise.

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Speaker 2: Now when she was vice president, Biden and Harris put

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Speaker 2: a twenty five million dollar bounty on Maduro's head, a

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Speaker 2: literal bounty, like job of the Hut style bounty, Like

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Speaker 2: Harris's spokesperson Kareem Jean Pierre back.

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Speaker 3: In the day.

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Speaker 8: So today we are building on all of our previous

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Speaker 8: actions and taking further major actions. We announced new sanctions

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Speaker 8: on Key Maduro aligned officials as a part of our

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Speaker 8: efforts to hold them accountable, and we imposed more visa

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Speaker 8: restrictions totaling nearly two thousand individuals. We also increase the

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Speaker 8: reward amount to twenty five million dollars for Nikola Maduro

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Speaker 8: in his so called Minister of Interior as part of

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Speaker 8: the Department of State's Narcotics rewards program.

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Speaker 3: Here is the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: The bottom line, the immutable law of American politics. If

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is for something, Democrats will be against it.

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Speaker 2: If he is against something, they will be for it.

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Speaker 2: If he does something, they will oppose. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: what it is at all. What is revealed here is

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Speaker 2: the reflexive nature of his opposition, their partisanship, the empty

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Speaker 3: Lack of shame.

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Speaker 2: That's what it takes to be a Democrat leader these days,

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Speaker 2: shameless partisanship, even if it means making yourself look like

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Speaker 2: an easily provable fool. When we come back we'll discuss

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Speaker 2: the allegation that Trump's move against Maduro was illegal, as

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Speaker 2: so many of these hacks claim. Here's a newsflash, it

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Speaker 2: was not not even close. We'll have more common sense

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Speaker 2: Joining me Professor Nicholas Creole of Georgia College and State University.

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Speaker 2: He's a legal scholar, commentator on law and politics and

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Speaker 2: foreign affairs. Here to discuss his peace in the Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal today entitled the Noriega Precedent for Maduro's Capture

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Speaker 2: and Prosecution, which outlines perfectly why the capture of Venezuelan

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Speaker 2: well not president illegitimate President Nicola Maduro, is perfectly legal.

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Speaker 3: Professor Kreele, Welcome on to the Scott Hitting Show.

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Speaker 5: Hey, great to be here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks for taking a couple of minutes today.

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Speaker 2: So your piece in the Journal this morning makes perfectly

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Speaker 2: clear what Trump did was legal. We're goinging a lot

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Speaker 2: of Democrats refer to this as any illegal action.

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Speaker 3: You knocked that down tell us about it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, the first thing that came to mind

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Speaker 11: You have to give them that.

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Speaker 10: But the first thing that came to mind was, you know,

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Speaker 10: I've seen something sort of like this. Now, personally, I

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Speaker 10: But as a student of history, student of law, and

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Speaker 10: in Latin America in the past, it seemed extraordinarily familiar

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Speaker 10: two cases, I saw a lot of similarities. And ultimately,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you drew a lot of parallels between this operation

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Speaker 2: and the Noriega eighty nine operation. Your piece, and you

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Speaker 2: reference this scene called head of state immunity. That was

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Speaker 2: part of what Noriega argued back in the day. Are

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Speaker 2: you anticipating a similar line of argument for Maduro and

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Speaker 2: why is it unlikely to work?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, I mean his lawyers would be foolish not to

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Speaker 10: at least try it. But it's one of those things

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Speaker 10: that that's exactly what Noriega tried and it did not

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Speaker 10: I'm head of state, I'm immune. Well, as you had

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Speaker 10: We know that these elections been rigged. He has no

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Speaker 10: real claim of authority, just like Noriega did not either.

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Speaker 11: He took over through a coup.

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Speaker 10: And so with that, we even have bipartisan support agreement

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Speaker 10: on that. The Biden administration did not recognize this regime.

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Speaker 10: So he really has no real legitimate claim legally. But

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Speaker 10: even if we did and we said okay, let's grant it.

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Speaker 10: Let's say we go ahead and say, sure, you're the

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Speaker 10: head of state. It does not cover private conduct, and

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Speaker 10: that's what drug trafficking would ultimately do. In fact, the

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Speaker 10: case thirty five years ago uses some very similar logic

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Speaker 10: we saw with Trump versus the United States and the

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Speaker 12: You've heard the narratives, now get the truth. It's the

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Speaker 2: Scott Jennings Show. On the line with us. Rich Lowry

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Speaker 13: We are not going to be able to allow in

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Speaker 2: I wrote a book recently rich and noted that Marco Rubio,

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Speaker 14: So this was a big risk and it worked out.

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Speaker 2: You know, what's amazing is the incredible competence of these

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Speaker 2: To whom do you attribute this competence? I mean, the

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Speaker 3: An American hero.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, we're so far from Desert One, which is an

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Speaker 15: But then he's giving them clear and achievable missions and

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Speaker 14: That's not on the generals.

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Speaker 15: The generals were warning by what a debacle would be

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Speaker 14: So again, the Trump.

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Speaker 15: Mode here is relatively low risk but high impact operations.

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Speaker 15: This is not an occupation of Venezuela, at least not yet.

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Speaker 15: So you go in and out in two hours. That's

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Speaker 2: How you read the public opinion rich on this deal.

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Speaker 15: If this has been a debacle, we would never hear

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Speaker 14: It's a success. It's probably gonna be forgotten next month.

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Speaker 15: And in terms of the midterms, it's the economy and

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Speaker 14: Almost, I underline almost, but almost. No matter what.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the future for Venezuela. The

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Speaker 3: She is a hardcore socialist.

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Speaker 3: I guess we know what that means.

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Speaker 2: What's your read on how are we going to run

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Speaker 15: Her play, I think is is to seem as pliable

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Speaker 2: This rich lowry, by the way, from National Review editor

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Speaker 3: I guess he is who he thought he was, isn't

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Speaker 15: He is, and much more so than he was portraying himself,

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Speaker 15: I think the most optimistic upside scenario is that he

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Speaker 14: You wish they wouldn't happen, but won't.

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Speaker 15: Materially affect the daily lives of New Yorkers. That's the

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Speaker 3: But he did it. I'll tell you what else he's done.

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Speaker 2: He has appointed a woman named Cia Weaver to be

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Speaker 2: the tenant director in his administration. Tenants meaning people who

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Speaker 2: A Weaver and how she views property rights in America.

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Speaker 16: I think the reality is is that for centuries we've

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Speaker 16: really treated property as an individualized good and not a

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Speaker 16: treating it as a collective good and towards a model

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Speaker 16: of shared equity will require that we think about it differently,

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Speaker 16: and it will mean that families, especially white families, but

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Speaker 16: some pot families who our homeowners as well, are going

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Speaker 2: Okay, rich, let me just ask you, on a scale

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is wild?

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Speaker 12: Is so bad?

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Speaker 14: That is so bad?

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Speaker 12: Right?

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Speaker 15: Property writer, the foundation of our liberties. They're not a

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Speaker 15: collective good, they're individual good. Now, the fact that they're

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Speaker 15: individual good, if you let that play out, does have

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Speaker 15: good consequences collectively.

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Speaker 14: You can't treat it collectively.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 15: This is basically a communist ideal, and I think he's

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Speaker 15: dead serious in trying to pursue his rent agenda, which

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Speaker 15: would be a total debacle. We just know from cities

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Speaker 15: around the world very much, including New York, that rent

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Speaker 15: control doesn't work because what you do you free up

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Speaker 15: the rent market. No one leaves their rent control departments,

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Speaker 15: then the landlords aren't making money from the rent control departments,

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Speaker 15: so they don't invest in and improve their rent control departments.

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Speaker 15: And then in the worst case we saw this New

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Speaker 15: York City in the seventies, they burned down because they're

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Speaker 15: either dilapidated or the landowners landlords are hoping they'll burn

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Speaker 15: down or hire someone to burn them down just to

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Speaker 15: get rid of them. At the same time, since you've

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Speaker 15: the other non rent control departments, the rents go up.

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Speaker 14: So this is a proven and predictable debacle.

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Speaker 15: And all he can hope is that again all when

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Speaker 15: he makes it impossible as a practical matter for him

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Speaker 14: And that video is just hair.

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Speaker 2: Raising thirty seconds what you make of his inaugural address.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's really not backing down. This dude is

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Speaker 2: a complete and total communist, isn't he.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's horrible. There's no warmth to collectivism. It's the

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Speaker 15: opposite of warmth. Now, look, individualism can be isolating. You

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Speaker 15: don't want just a purely individualistic society. That's why you

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Speaker 15: have civil society, have institution like family, like churches, like

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Speaker 15: neighborhood groups, those are groups with true warmth. The state

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Speaker 15: does not emanate warmth the opposite.

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Speaker 2: In fact, that's Rich Lowry. He is the editor in

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Speaker 2: chief of the National Review. Rich, I gotta tell you

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Speaker 2: I've been reading it for years, still get the magazine version.

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Speaker 3: Of it as well. Really appreciate what you do over there.

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Speaker 3: When we come back with Rich, we're going.

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Speaker 2: To talk about other breaking news today, more socialist news.

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Speaker 2: Tim Walls not running for reelection. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: with Rich Lowry when we come back. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: Common Sense for the American people at Scott Jennings on Salem.

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Speaker 12: He's the author of the best selling book A Revolution

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Speaker 12: of Common Sense.

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Speaker 5: Keears, Scott Jennings.

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Speaker 2: My guest is Rich Lowry, editor in chief of National Review. Rich,

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Speaker 2: thanks for being with us here on the Scott Jennings Show.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: who had announced his campaign for reelection, but this morning

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Speaker 2: abruptly unannounced it.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to run for reelection.

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Speaker 2: He gave a kind of a bizarre statement in Minneapolis

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Speaker 2: and then stormed off without taking questions, although he said

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Speaker 2: he was going to take questions. What do you make

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Speaker 2: of Tim Wallas. Is this all because a YouTuber came

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Speaker 2: and ran him out of town?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, he was blown up by the scandal.

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Speaker 15: Look, Minnesota prides itself on its Scandinavian culture, which involves

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Speaker 15: a lot of welfare support for people, but also involves

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Speaker 15: a clean political culture, and this is the total opposite.

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Speaker 15: This might be the worst state level fraud in American history.

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Speaker 15: And the hits just keep on coming on this one.

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Speaker 15: I think there'll be more indictments to come. I think

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Speaker 15: we've just had the tip of the iceberg so far,

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Speaker 15: and it just wasn't survivable, or if it was survivable,

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Speaker 15: it was going to be a real near run thing

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Speaker 15: for him, and Democrats didn't want to risk it. So

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Speaker 15: this guy was a Frankenstein creation of the media and

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Speaker 15: the Democratic left. The idea that he was cool, the

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Speaker 15: idea that he peeled the white working class voters. All

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Speaker 15: that was exposed is total nonsense in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 15: and this might be the most rapid disappearances into total

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Speaker 15: irrelevance we've ever seen in the modern era of a

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Speaker 2: It's great, kind of crazy when you think, when you think,

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Speaker 2: when you think back on his being chosen for the

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Speaker 2: ticket by Harris. I mean, obviously Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: was a better choice.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knew it.

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Speaker 2: And at the time a lot of us argued she

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Speaker 2: just couldn't pick him because he was Jewish, and her

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Speaker 2: default judgment here was to pick the biggest buffoon that

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Speaker 2: I mean it really was. You know, he's terrible, but

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Speaker 2: her judgment on.

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Speaker 3: This goodness gracious.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, even she was unimpressed with him, she tells us

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Speaker 15: in her memoir.

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Speaker 14: So if Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 15: Is unimpressed with you, you're very unimpressive, very unimpressive.

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Speaker 14: And any of us would have known that. We knew

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Speaker 14: that going in.

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Speaker 15: It's basically that he called Republicans and jd Evan's weird

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Speaker 15: you know on MSNBC that supposedly showed Democrats is how

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Speaker 15: with it he.

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Speaker 14: Was and how cool and how sharp. It was all false.

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Speaker 15: I mean, he couldn't handle a shotgun, he couldn't play

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Speaker 15: Madden confidently with the right lingo. It was all just

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Speaker 15: a sham. And now it's been exposed and he's gone.

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Speaker 15: I don't think anyone's gonna ever think of him again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're running a mean pick six over there at

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Speaker 2: the National Review.

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Speaker 14: Is fantastic here.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the National Review, you published an article the

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Speaker 2: other day entitled RFK Junior is right about gender affirming care.

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Speaker 2: You highlight in the article about the studies that have

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Speaker 2: aren't understood. Tell us a little bit about that piece.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody needs to read it. And is this

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Speaker 2: sort of Rfk's best moment so far as HHS secretary?

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Speaker 14: I think so.

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Speaker 15: I'm not a huge fan of his and I do

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Speaker 15: think he has some wild theories, but here he's more

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Speaker 15: rigorously following the science than his critics. This is a

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Speaker 15: little bit like the pandemic, like kids masking kids that

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Speaker 15: we're kind of told this is the scientific consensus, and

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Speaker 15: then you pop down in it a little bit and

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Speaker 15: you look around the world. No one else was telling

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Speaker 11: Here.

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Speaker 14: CDC was a wild outlier.

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Speaker 15: And on this too, you've seen Finland, Sweden, the UK

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Speaker 15: others pull back on this very aggressive treatment of gender

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Speaker 15: dysphoria for miners where you're doing hormone therapy and puberty

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Speaker 15: blockers and even surgery. Everyone's around the world is realized

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Speaker 15: the evidence is not there to support this, and these

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Speaker 15: are life changing interventions that these miners do not have

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Speaker 15: the maturity to be making. And it's the US now

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Speaker 15: that's an outlier. And what RFK is doing is getting

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Speaker 15: us more in line with these With these other countries.

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Speaker 15: We're watchful, waiting the therapy is the right approach. And

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Speaker 15: then when they're adults, maybe they want to make these

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Speaker 15: life changing decisions, but they shouldn't be making them themselves,

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Speaker 15: and other people shouldn't be making them before they're in

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Speaker 15: the age of maturity.

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Speaker 2: And yet, and yet, in blue states, you still have

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Speaker 2: of members of Congress who are totally and completely captured

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Speaker 2: by this trans ideology and they are dedicated to keeping

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Speaker 2: it going. And you can bet if Democrats retake the

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Speaker 2: White House in twenty twenty eight, all of what RFK

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Speaker 2: is doing on this is going right back. Rich Lowry,

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Speaker 2: you're the editor in chief of the National Review. Find

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Speaker 2: them online National Review dot com.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 15: Today, brother, Thanks so much, Scott, continue success with the show.

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Speaker 14: Happy New year.

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Speaker 2: All right back with more after this. It's common sense

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Speaker 2: for the American people.

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Speaker 1: Stay with the voice of free speech, the truth delivered, common.

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Speaker 5: Sense for the American people.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show.

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Speaker 2: Common sense for the American people. Scott Jennings is with you,

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Speaker 2: and we begin this hour with breaking news, literal breaking news.

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Speaker 2: As we speak, the US Apartment of Health and Human

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Speaker 2: Services is announcing that it will recommend fewer vaccines for

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Speaker 2: most American children. This is breaking right now. The literal

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Speaker 2: first interview on this topic is also happening right now

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Speaker 2: on the Scott Jenning Show. The man who did the

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Speaker 2: scientific work on this is with us. The Deputy Secretary

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Speaker 2: of Health and Human Services joins us this hour. Jim

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Speaker 2: O'Neill is here. Deputy Secretary O'Neil, Welcome into the Scott

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Speaker 2: Jenning Show. Here at the moment of breaking news. What

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Speaker 2: can you tell us about this announcement coming out from

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Speaker 2: HHS right now about the childhood vaccine schedule.

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Speaker 17: Scott, thank you so much for having you. It's an

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Speaker 17: honor to be on your show and pleasure. So you know,

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Speaker 17: many people have noticed that the United States has recommended

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Speaker 17: more and more vaccines for children every year. They've gone

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Speaker 17: from twenty three doses for seven to diseases in nineteen

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Speaker 17: eighty to more than eighty doses for eighteen diseases. Now

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Speaker 17: that's a huge number of vaccines. Many parents are concerned

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Speaker 17: that they're injecting their young, innocent children with a lot

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Speaker 17: of medicines. They're not sure about the risks and benefits

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Speaker 17: of all these, and many people have been asking questions.

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Speaker 11: We've been looking at this all year.

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Speaker 17: We've had the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices do deep

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Speaker 17: considerations of the safety record for certain vaccines, and the

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Speaker 17: President last month asked me to consider what other countries

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Speaker 17: are doing. He noticed that some other very developed countries

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Speaker 17: recommend fewer vaccines for a lot of their children, and

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Speaker 17: it seemed worth talking to them and seeing.

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Speaker 11: What their logic was.

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Speaker 17: So I had the pleasure of having good conversations with

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Speaker 17: health ministries. My counterparts in Germany and Denmark and Japan

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Speaker 17: also talked with our career vaccine scientists at FDA and CDC,

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Speaker 17: and a lot of our sciences wrote along formal assessment

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Speaker 17: recommending that we converge United States recommendations on the consensus

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Speaker 17: recommendation vaccines of other countries.

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Speaker 11: And I just signed a decision memo today doing that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Secretary O'Neil, So I'm reading some information just as

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Speaker 2: it's coming out. It says that health officials will continue

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Speaker 2: to recommend the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines and immunizations

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Speaker 2: against polio, chicken pox, HPV and others. However, you are

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Speaker 2: going to narrow their vaccination recommendations for some respiratory viruses

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Speaker 2: or RSV, meninga, cockle disease, hepatitis B, and hepatitis A.

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Speaker 2: But children who are broadly at risk for higher risk

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Speaker 2: for infections will still be recommended. So it seems like

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Speaker 2: most of the stuff that and I've got four kids,

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Speaker 2: so I've been through the vaccine conversation with the pediatricians.

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Speaker 2: So most of the stuff that we're used to, polio,

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Speaker 2: chicken pox, HPV, measles, mumps, and rubella, that all stays

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Speaker 2: as recommended vaccines.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 11: That's correct.

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Speaker 17: Let me go ahead and say insurance coverage and payment

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Speaker 17: for vaccines will not change at all, whether it's Medicare,

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Speaker 17: Medicaid or private insurance. We're not banning or withdrawing access

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Speaker 17: to any vaccines. All the vaccines that were available before

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Speaker 17: this week will continue to be available.

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Speaker 11: We are merely updating the advice.

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Speaker 17: CDC gives advice and recommends particular vaccines for particular ages

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Speaker 17: and for particular groups, and we're updating that to conform

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Speaker 17: more to the consensus of other countries.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about your conversations with other countries here.

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Speaker 2: You obviously consulted with a lot of people. Denmark was

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Speaker 2: one and others. What led them to their decisions on

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Speaker 2: these vaccines. How long have they had a more limited

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Speaker 2: vaccine schedule is this? I assume they've been doing it

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Speaker 2: for a number of years. They didn't come to this

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Speaker 2: decision recently.

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Speaker 11: Correct, that's correct. They have not had a lot of

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Speaker 11: radical changes.

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Speaker 17: And in all three of those countries, they're very transparent

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Speaker 17: about their process, They're very transparent about their data, and

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Speaker 17: their public health systems have managed to maintain a high

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Speaker 17: degree of trust with the populations that they serve, and

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Speaker 17: so you actually see a high degree of compliance. Most

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Speaker 17: parents in those countries follow the recommended advice. In the

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Speaker 17: United States, in the past few years, unfortunate, our public

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Speaker 17: health establishment made some missteps during the pandemic made very

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Speaker 17: strong recommendations that were not necessarily backed up by very

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Speaker 17: transparent data and science, and a lot of people stop

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Speaker 17: trusting the scientificific advice. Also, a lot of parents look

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Speaker 17: at the long list and say, wow, eighty does this

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Speaker 17: seems like a lot. I wonder if you could point

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Speaker 17: me to which ones are the most important if I

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Speaker 17: wanted to oper a smaller number of vaccines.

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Speaker 11: Of course, that's the right parents have.

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Speaker 17: And so by conforming more to what other countries are

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Speaker 17: doing to follow their consensus, were to help with without

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Speaker 17: you know, without limiting anyone's access to anything, we are

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Speaker 17: able to help people make priorities if they would like

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Speaker 17: to do a smaller number of vaccines for their younger children.

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Speaker 2: I should have mentioned, Jim, that you're also currently the

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Speaker 2: acting director of the CDC.

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Speaker 11: Correct, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So in your capacity here as both Deputy Secretary

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Speaker 2: and acting CDC Director, you're you're issuing these recommendations. I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of thinking about, you know, if I'm just an

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Speaker 2: average parent out there and I'm hearing this news today,

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Speaker 2: and I've got young kids, and I'm I'm going to

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Speaker 2: go have a conversation with my pediatrician. So what you're

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Speaker 2: saying is you all will have recommendations, but any parent

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Speaker 2: could walk in and say to a pediatrician, what do

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Speaker 2: you think based on my child?

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Speaker 3: What is your advice? And then the ultimately the decision

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Speaker 3: rests with the parent.

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Speaker 11: Correct, that's correct.

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Speaker 17: Parents are taking their children in to see pediatricians anyway,

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Speaker 17: that's part of the routine, even if their babies are healthy,

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Speaker 17: and it's very good. I encourage that parents talk to

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Speaker 17: the pediatricians who know they know the child better than

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Speaker 17: you know any government official. Have a conversation about about

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Speaker 17: what exposures the child might be, what kind of groups

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Speaker 17: they play in, uh, what what particular health conditions they

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Speaker 17: have that might affect their the severity of certain diseases,

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Speaker 17: including infectious disease, also what side effects from vaccines they

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Speaker 17: might be especially susceptible to. And you know they're they're

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Speaker 17: meeting anyway for these well baby visits. It's it's a

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Speaker 17: good opportunity to have questions and have conversations between doctors

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Speaker 17: and parents. And you know, to the extent that we

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Speaker 17: that our advice is is something they look at. We

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Speaker 17: we want it to be as rigorous and scientific and

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Speaker 17: helpful as possible.

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Speaker 2: The voice you're hearing today Deputy Health and Human Services

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Speaker 2: Secretary Jim O'Neil. He is also the acting director of

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Speaker 2: the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Secretary O'Neil I

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Speaker 2: actually had invited you on, and I'm grateful for your

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Speaker 2: time today to talk about what's going on in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: We'll just close out before we go to.

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Speaker 2: Commercial break here with a reiteration of the breaking news

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Speaker 2: HHS at your direction is scaling back the number of

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Speaker 2: recommended vaccines for children. Federal health officials now recommending the

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Speaker 2: children be routinely inoculated against eleven diseases instead of seventeen.

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Speaker 2: And you worked with peer countries who are already doing

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Speaker 2: this to arrive at these recommendations. You're starting to read

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Speaker 2: about this now in most news, and this was a

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Speaker 2: directive from President Trump last month that you review this

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Speaker 2: and issue recommendations on this.

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Speaker 3: So this is coming from the top, YEP.

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Speaker 11: That's right.

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Speaker 17: It was in very intense examination, and I had the

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Speaker 17: pleasure of talking with a lot of very skilled scientists

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Speaker 17: looking a lot of data, and we all reached the

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Speaker 17: consensus that these other countries were onto something, making priorities

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Speaker 17: continuing access for all vaccines, but helping people set priorities

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Speaker 17: among them in the way that other countries have done

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Speaker 17: made sense, and so that's what I decided to do.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: That voice is Jim O'Neil from HHS. We're going to

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Speaker 2: keep him on because we got to talk about Minnesota

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Speaker 2: and what's going on with the fraud there, because you

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Speaker 2: may have seen Jim on your TV over the weekend

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Speaker 2: talking about what the government, the federal government is doing

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Speaker 2: to step in on this fraud. We'll take a break,

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Speaker 2: Jim and bring you right back. I do want to

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Speaker 2: deep down you know this is not how it's supposed

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Speaker 2: You stop expecting to feel good and you aren't thinking

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Speaker 2: to life and come back in a moment more with

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Speaker 2: HHS Deputy Secretary O'Neil when we come back.

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Speaker 12: When he's done in the Oval Office, are owning the

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Speaker 12: libs on CNN. He's here with us. It's the Scott

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Speaker 12: Jennings Show. Ready for some common sense and a little

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Speaker 12: Kentucky wendage.

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Speaker 5: Here's Scott Jennings.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we got to talk about Tim Walls, the governor

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Speaker 2: of Minnesota. You know, I've been fortunate in my job

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Speaker 2: at seeing Inn to get to talk about Tim Walls

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Speaker 2: a little bit over the last year and a half

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Speaker 2: or so. Let's hear some of that, actually, Sean. But

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you who is a complete piecer. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to tell you right now there have been a lot

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Speaker 2: of stars with him. Walls Walts does not belong at

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Speaker 2: this level of American politics.

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Speaker 3: Dvance does final verdict.

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Speaker 2: Tim Walls wandered into the wrong bar tonite, the governor

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Speaker 2: of Minnesota, the Democratic candidate pro vice president, wishing for

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Speaker 2: wish casting the death of the President United says, I

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Speaker 2: don't care how much you hate your political opponent, wishing

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Speaker 2: death upon them and joking about it means you're a

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Speaker 2: broken brain to SOB and that's what he is. Walls

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Speaker 2: is a buffoon. I'm sorry this guy. He's the only

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Speaker 2: school teacher in America who brags at none of his

817
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Speaker 2: students can get into an Ivy League school. He's had

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Speaker 2: one consequential press interaction with our Dana Bash who asked

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Speaker 2: him about the fabrications in his own resume, and his

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Speaker 2: answer was essentially, MITO understand words good.

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Speaker 5: I mean it is a buffoone.

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Speaker 2: I think when your signature move is jazz hands, you're

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Speaker 2: not as.

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Speaker 5: Up on the white guy code. Maybe as you think

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Speaker 5: you are.

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Speaker 2: That was what I had to say about Tim Walls

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Speaker 2: over the last year and a half since he burst

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Speaker 2: onto the national scene. My guest is HHS Deputy Secretary

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Speaker 2: Jim O'Neil. Jim, I wanted to ask you about Minnesota

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Speaker 2: because over at HHS, you and Secretary Kennedy have stepped

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Speaker 2: into this situation with the Somali fraud, and I've seen

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Speaker 2: you on television talking about this. Essentially, you're stopping payments

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Speaker 2: until we can get to the bottom of what the

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Speaker 2: fraud is and the depths of it in Minnesota. What

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Speaker 2: can you tell us about the actions you're taking at

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Speaker 2: HHS on Minnesota.

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Speaker 17: First of all, Scott, I'd like to say if you

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Speaker 17: ever want to work in for our Inspector General. You

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Speaker 17: obviously are able to predict the fraud a couple of

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Speaker 17: years in advance, so we would be happy to have

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Speaker 17: your talents. Yes, we find one hundred and eighty five

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Speaker 17: million dollars for childcare a loan in Minnesota through our

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Speaker 17: administration patroll earned families, and we have frozen all that

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Speaker 17: money until the state is able to provide receipts. I

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Speaker 17: sent the governor a I think polite but firm letter

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Speaker 17: last Tuesday, and we also turned on an automatic system

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Speaker 17: that will not send out money until the state provide receipts,

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Speaker 17: and we are still waiting. We're still waiting for the receipts,

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Speaker 17: evidence that this money is not going to fraud, and

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Speaker 17: we need that evidence before we send the money.

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Speaker 2: So you all are freezing payments. We've got the Department

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Speaker 2: of Justices involved. I've seen the seen the acting US

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Speaker 2: Attorney on TV. I've heard Pambondi talking about this, The

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Speaker 2: President's talking about it.

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Speaker 3: What can you tell us about.

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Speaker 2: Sort of cooperation going on at the federal level here

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Speaker 2: to step in on this as quickly as possible. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I heard the US Attorney there say we're talking about

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Speaker 2: maybe nine billion dollars when all is said and done

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Speaker 2: inside the medicaid program.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a shocking number.

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Speaker 11: Yes, so we are.

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Speaker 17: I'm glad you mentioned Medicaid. So, first of all, the

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Speaker 17: whole government is working cooperly together. The entire Trumper administration

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Speaker 17: is focused on stopping fraud in federal federal programs in Minnesota,

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Speaker 17: but definitely across the country as well. We're looking for

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Speaker 17: fraud in all other states. And I think we'll have

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Speaker 17: some others that are going to be significant numbers.

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Speaker 11: But yes, Medicaid.

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Speaker 17: So doctor Oz sent a very nice but also stern

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Speaker 17: letter to Governor Walls in the beginning of December about

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Speaker 17: medicaid fraud and asked the state to provide a corrective

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Speaker 17: action plan by New Year's Eve. They did send something

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Speaker 17: on New Year's Eve, but it was five pages long.

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Speaker 11: It wasn't quite written in crayon.

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Speaker 17: But let's say it was not a sufficient serious corrective

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Speaker 17: action plan.

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Speaker 11: And we still need one of those.

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Speaker 17: We cannot send taxpayer money to medicaid unless we are

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Speaker 17: sure that is not going to fraud.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: We got about thirty seconds here before we got to

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Speaker 2: take a break, And I do want to hold you

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Speaker 2: because I got a couple of other issues I want

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Speaker 2: to talk to you about. But just bottom line, Tim

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Speaker 2: Walls is the governor of Minnesota. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: fraud going on here across a lot of different programs.

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Speaker 2: Is he in legal jeopardy based on what you know

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 17: You might want to ask some lawyers about that. I

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Speaker 17: don't know the answer of that, but I know that

892
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Speaker 17: we are not sending them money until we have evidence

893
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Speaker 17: that it's not going to fraud. That is our responsibility

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Speaker 17: on Medicaid, that is our responsibility on childcare, It is

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Speaker 17: our responsibility on all federal programs inside HHS, and of

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Speaker 17: course other departments are doing something similar. So prosecuting bad doctors,

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Speaker 17: of course, is a fair responsibility for a lot of

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Speaker 17: our divisions. Our General Counsel Mike Stewart is very much

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Speaker 17: on the case. Our Inspector General marsh Bell is very

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Speaker 17: much on the case. All of our divisions are doing that. Really,

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Speaker 17: it's obvious we've just seen the tip of the iceberg

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Speaker 17: in terms of fraud in Minnesota, and we're going to

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Speaker 17: find the whole iceberg.

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Speaker 2: As Deputy Secretary of Jim O'Neil more with him when

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Speaker 2: we come back. You're listening to common sense for the

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Speaker 2: American people. It's Scott Jennings. Stay with us, very definition.

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Speaker 2: I've never backed down here. Scott Jennings, Welcome into the

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Speaker 2: Scott Jennings Show, Common Sense for the American people.

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Speaker 3: This just end of the show.

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Speaker 2: President Trump is now posting on social media about Tim Walls.

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Speaker 2: We were just discussing this, The President says, quote, Minnesota's

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Speaker 2: corrupt governor will possibly leave office before his term is up,

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Speaker 2: but in any event, will not be running again because

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Speaker 2: he was caught red handed along with ilhan Omar and

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Speaker 2: others of his Somali friends, stealing tens of billions of

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Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars. I feel certain the facts will come out.

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Speaker 2: They will reveal a seriously unscrupulous and rich group of slimeballs.

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Speaker 3: Governor Wallace has destroyed the.

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Speaker 2: State of Minnesota, but others like Governor Gavin Newsom, JB. Pritzker,

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Speaker 2: and Kathy Hokl have done, in my opinion, and even

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Speaker 2: more dishonest and incompetent job.

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Speaker 3: No one is above the law. That is the latest

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Speaker 3: missive from President Trump.

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Speaker 2: Our Special Conversation today is with the Deputy Secretary of

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Speaker 2: Health and Human Services, Jim O'Neil. He's also Acting director

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Speaker 2: of the CDC. Jim, thanks for all the time you're

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Speaker 2: giving us today, and thanks for the reports on the

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Speaker 2: other breaking news today HHS scaling back the vaccine recommendations

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Speaker 2: for children. I did want to also ask you about

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Speaker 2: something I saw on the HHS site that you also

941
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Speaker 2: broke today headline HHS to close Biden era loophole that

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Speaker 2: let states pay childcare providers without counting attendance.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about that. I know this is a big

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Speaker 3: initiative of your alls as well.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, So, as we were discussing a few minutes ago,

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Speaker 17: we have an obligation to make sure that federal taxpayer

947
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Speaker 17: money does not go to any kind of fraud and

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Speaker 17: that there are good controls in place to ensure that

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Speaker 17: the fraud doesn't happen.

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Speaker 11: So we repealed a really.

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Speaker 17: Bad Biden loophole today by proposing a new, much better regulation.

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Speaker 17: So from now on, attendance base building will be restored.

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Speaker 17: In other words, providers of childcare have to be able

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Speaker 17: to prove attendance that they are treating and taking care

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Speaker 17: of real children upfront. Payments will no longer be provided.

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Speaker 17: We can't rush things. We don't need to pay people

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Speaker 17: in advance if there's a chance they're committing fraud. And

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Speaker 17: we're returning voucher flexibility so that states are no longer

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Speaker 17: steered towards contracts. Parent directive vouchers will be back on

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Speaker 17: the table allowed again, restoring parental choice over childcare. You know,

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Speaker 17: so many families, working families in America really struggle to

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Speaker 17: afford childcare. It's very expensive. People are concerned about quality.

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Speaker 17: It definitely should not be going to fake daycare centers.

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Speaker 17: And we're providing some accountability across the country, but especially

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Speaker 17: for Minnesota, so that we make sure that there is

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Speaker 17: no more fraud.

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Speaker 2: I go back to December the eighteenth, as we were

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Speaker 2: all getting ready to go into the Christmas holiday, you

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Speaker 2: guys at HHS RFK Junior our secretary and doctor Oz

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Speaker 2: announced a move to ban gender affirming care for young people.

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Speaker 3: The move effectively would.

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Speaker 2: Ban miners getting gender trained, gender surgeries and whatnot, even

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Speaker 2: in states where I guess at the local level they

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Speaker 2: still consider it to be legal. Can you take us

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Speaker 2: back to that announcement. What did HHS do and what

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Speaker 2: is the ultimate impact of this. I actually think this

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Speaker 2: is one of Secretary Kennedy's finest hours when you consider

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Speaker 2: what a huge issue this was for the American people

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Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty four campaign.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. Absolutely, So.

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Speaker 17: We are committed to protecting innocent children from irreparable harm, surgeries,

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Speaker 17: chemical harm. We want to protect them and make sure

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Speaker 17: that the authority figures in their lives, doctors and teachers,

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Speaker 17: don't inflict harm that they can't be reversed later. And

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Speaker 17: there's no time to wait. So we issued a series

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Speaker 17: of rules and policies in order to ensure that Medicaid

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Speaker 17: funding does not go to pay for sex rejecting procedures

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Speaker 17: for minors. We also made it a condition of participation,

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Speaker 17: so in fact, providers that performed these irreparable harms onto

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Speaker 17: try will not be able to get payments from Medicare

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Speaker 17: and Medicaid.

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Speaker 2: And as you were discussing the vaccine schedule earlier, you

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Speaker 2: talked about how you're talking to our peer countries. You know,

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Speaker 2: people in Europe and other places, they have already scaled

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Speaker 2: back all this transgender care and surgeries and whatnot for

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Speaker 2: young people.

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Speaker 3: We're kind of late to this party too.

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Speaker 2: Did you have conversations with other countries about this and

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Speaker 2: what they had already done and why they had done

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Speaker 2: it before you made the announcement.

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Speaker 17: Yes, we've read a lot of the reports, the CAST report,

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Speaker 17: for example, and we've seen a lot of European countries.

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Speaker 17: You know, it's tempting to think of Europe as you know,

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Speaker 17: politically to the left of the United States, but it's

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Speaker 17: not always the case. There are good scientists over there

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Speaker 17: in other great countries around the world, and a lot

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Speaker 17: of people really rushed into believing that there was a

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Speaker 17: huge data record suggesting the sex rejecting procedures were good.

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Speaker 17: And once you start to look at the evidence, as

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Speaker 17: a lot of countries have done as we have done,

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Speaker 17: it's actually similar to vaccines. In some cases, there's less

1012
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Speaker 17: of a record pointing in one direction than people thought,

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Speaker 17: and in fact, in the case of these procedures, a

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Speaker 17: lot of harms. We've released a lengthy scientific review of

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Speaker 17: the evidence, written by liberals, by the way, and yes,

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Speaker 17: indeed the harms do strongly outweigh the benefits, and innocent

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Speaker 17: children should not be subjected to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a righteous move in my opinion by

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Speaker 2: Kennedy and doctor oz So congratulate.

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Speaker 3: By the way, this was a huge political issue in

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Speaker 3: the campaign.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, this was debated, you had two parties,

1023
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Speaker 2: you had two candidates on very different sides of this,

1024
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Speaker 2: and the American people spoke on this matter. It's just interesting,

1025
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Speaker 2: you know, either on the vaccine stuff, on the transgender stuff,

1026
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Speaker 2: we're playing ketchup to the rest of the civilized world essentially.

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Speaker 2: And the same was true during COVID. You know, in

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Speaker 2: COVID they kept the schools open and we didn't. Why

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Speaker 2: do you think that is? What is it about the

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Speaker 2: public health regime in the United States where we are

1031
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Speaker 2: constantly behind what everybody else in the civilized world seems

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Speaker 2: to already know on a number of fronts.

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Speaker 17: Well, I'm very glad we don't have socialized medicine. But

1034
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Speaker 17: one feature of our complicated healthcare industry is that there's

1035
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Speaker 17: a lot of money, and there's money in bad.

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Speaker 11: Procedures, just like there's money and good procedures.

1037
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Speaker 17: And we have a responsibility as officials to ensure that

1038
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Speaker 17: it's fine and good and great to make a profit

1039
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Speaker 17: if you're doing things that are healthy for the patient,

1040
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Speaker 17: that the patient has made informed consent to that the

1041
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Speaker 17: parents have made informed consent to. But if you're doing fraud,

1042
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Speaker 17: if you're harming children, if you're lying to people, if

1043
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Speaker 17: you're misrepresenting data, if you're doing anything that is not

1044
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Speaker 17: in the interests of well informed patients, then you should

1045
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Speaker 17: not be doing it and taxpayer should not be paying

1046
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Speaker 17: for it.

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Speaker 2: Jim, let me ask you a question about a court

1048
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Speaker 2: ruling that came down right Christmas. A federal judge temporarily

1049
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Speaker 2: blocked the enforcement of West Virginia's food die ban while

1050
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Speaker 2: a lawsuit against the state of West Virginia is being argued.

1051
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Speaker 2: West Virginia was the first state in the nation to

1052
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Speaker 2: implement a new law that bans several artificial food dies

1053
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Speaker 2: from school lunches. The governor there, Patrick Morrissey, had signed

1054
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Speaker 2: it into law. Obviously, this has been a topic what's

1055
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Speaker 2: in our food, this kind of chemicals that are in

1056
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Speaker 2: our food has been a huge topic for Secretary Kennedy

1057
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Speaker 2: and for the Trump administration under the Make America Healthy

1058
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Speaker 2: Again idea. What was your reaction to this ruling, what's

1059
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Speaker 2: the federal role in this food die situation, and are

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Speaker 2: you all at the HHS level involved in any of

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Speaker 2: this litigation.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: So, first of all, nutrition is something where again, like

1064
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Speaker 17: some of the other issues we discussed, the science towards

1065
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Speaker 17: what people are currently doing is not very strong. Nutrition

1066
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Speaker 17: science has been corrupted for decades. We are on the

1067
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Speaker 17: verge of announcing very good, scientifically rigorous dietary guidelines for Americans.

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Speaker 17: I can't talk about it yet, but we've had wonderful

1069
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Speaker 17: cooperation with our colleagues of the Department of Agriculture. We

1070
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Speaker 17: are finally going to provide very good dietary nutrition advice

1071
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Speaker 17: for Americans. Will be announcing that very soon. And that

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Speaker 17: is part of staying healthy. So you don't need to,

1073
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Speaker 17: you know, enter the healthcare system for being sick, but

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Speaker 17: food dies. The safety of food additives is absolutely part

1075
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Speaker 17: of it. Secretary Kennedy last spring was able to get

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Speaker 17: a lot of voluntary cooperation by food producers in eliminating

1077
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Speaker 17: petroleum based eyes from foods, which you know, no one needs.

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Speaker 11: Really brightly colored foods.

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Speaker 17: As we know from other countries and states have also

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Speaker 17: taken similar similar action to move in the same direction.

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Speaker 17: You know, Secretary Covinty has really been talking about this

1082
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Speaker 17: for years, long before he took office, and we support

1083
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Speaker 17: states supporting the MAHA agenda in making sure that whether

1084
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Speaker 17: it's SNAP or any other state programmer law that affects food,

1085
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Speaker 17: then absolutely is the right thing and it's unfortunate that

1086
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Speaker 17: courts see it differently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're coming down to the end of our time here.

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Speaker 2: It's Deputy HHS Secretary Jim O'Neil. You've been hearing here

1089
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Speaker 2: on the Scott Jenny Show. I just want to ask you, Jim,

1090
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Speaker 2: about your service. You've obviously been in the middle of

1091
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Speaker 2: a bunch of key issues. A lot of it was

1092
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Speaker 2: political stuff.

1093
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Speaker 3: That happened during the campaign.

1094
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Speaker 2: The President built a lot of his coalition, expanded his

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Speaker 2: coalition with the inclusion of the MAHA folks out there

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Speaker 2: and bringing Secretary Kennedy into the campaign and now into

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Speaker 2: the government. What's been your experience with the President so far?

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Speaker 2: I know you're in the Oval office briefing him on things.

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Speaker 2: What's it been like to work for Donald Trump's time around?

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Speaker 17: You know, I've been inspired by his vision for really

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Speaker 17: since the nineteen eighties when I used to see him

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Speaker 17: on television, and he he's been very consistent in a

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Speaker 17: lot of his views.

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Speaker 11: That were sometimes out of the mainstream.

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Speaker 17: He was you know, very concerned about economic and military

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Speaker 17: threat of China. Even in the eighties, he was very

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Speaker 17: concerned about unchecked mass immigration. Long before he became president,

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Speaker 17: he was very concerned about fraud and you know, health, health,

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Speaker 17: and nutrition issues that have been sort of pushed to

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Speaker 17: the sidelines in terms of the mainstream two party system,

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Speaker 17: and now all of those are at the center and

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Speaker 17: they're they're, frankly, things that a lot of Americans have

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Speaker 17: been concerned about and have felt voiceless. And the President

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Speaker 17: is definitely giving those things a long overdue but very

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Speaker 17: welcome voice, and I'm honored to be a very minor

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Speaker 17: part of it.

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Speaker 3: It's Jim O'Neil.

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Speaker 2: He's Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services. He's the

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Speaker 2: acting director of the CDC. He brought us breaking news today.

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Speaker 2: Courage you to check it out. It's out there in

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Speaker 2: all the news outlets now about the scaling back.

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Speaker 3: Of the recommended vaccine schedule.

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Speaker 2: And he's also deep, deeply involved in stopping the fraud

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Speaker 2: in Minnesota.

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Speaker 11: Jim, thanks for coming on, Scott, Thank you so much

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Speaker 11: for having me.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Jim O'Neil, HHS Deputy Secretary up and comer and see

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Speaker 2: him on TV a little bit. He's doing a terrific job.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you a quick story before we go

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Speaker 2: to break. I have to tell you a story about George.

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Speaker 2: Hard working guy spends ten hours a day in a

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Speaker 2: garbage truck. This is a tough job, made even tougher

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Speaker 2: because he was dealing with a sore right knee that

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Speaker 2: would not bend. How would you like to jump off

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Speaker 2: a garbage truck and get back on it all day

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Speaker 2: and your knee won't bend? Not great, But here's the

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Speaker 2: amazing part. George started taking Relief Factor. It changed his life.

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Speaker 2: He sent us a letter. He said, quote, I can

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Speaker 2: bend my knee again with very little pain. I don't

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Speaker 2: doubt it because we've seen similar effects in the Jennings household.

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Speaker 2: I've used it my father and my mother. They love

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Speaker 2: it and are all over it. You can get in

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Speaker 2: on this. It's very simple. It's called the three week

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Speaker 2: Quick Start. Go to one eight hundred and four Relief

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Speaker 2: that's the number or relief Factor dot com. It's nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety five three week quick Start. You won't regret it.

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Speaker 2: Relief Factor. When we come back, talk about mom. Donni

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Speaker 2: in New York it's Scott on Salem, stay with us.

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Speaker 5: No for America's favorite pundit.

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Speaker 2: It's Scott Jennings, common sense for the American people. Scott Jennings,

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Speaker 2: you're on Salem. Really want to thank Jim O'Neill from HHS.

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Speaker 2: He's the Deputy secretary.

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Speaker 15: Man.

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Speaker 3: That dude is crushing.

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Speaker 2: It broke some news today about this childhood vaccine business.

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Speaker 2: HHS is going to recommend fewer vaccines for most children.

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Speaker 2: You can still get the vaccines that they're not recommending

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Speaker 2: for all children anymore, but the recommendations from the government

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Speaker 2: are going to be fewer and more in line, he says,

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Speaker 2: with a lot of our peer countries in other places,

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Speaker 2: including Europe.

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Speaker 3: Great interview with Jim O'Neil today. I got to close

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Speaker 3: the show today.

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Speaker 2: We've got to talk about Mom Donnie. Mom Donnie in

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Speaker 2: New York City took office on New Year's Day. He

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Speaker 2: unleashed some absolute bangers for starters. Let's start with this

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Speaker 2: line from his inaugural address. This will live in infamy.

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Speaker 18: Cut one long these communities have existed as distinct from

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Speaker 18: one another. We will draw this city closer together. We

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Speaker 18: will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth

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Speaker 18: of collectivism. If our campaign demonstrated that the people of

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Speaker 18: New York yearn for solidarity, then let this government foster it.

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Speaker 18: Because no matter what you eat, how you pray, or

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Speaker 18: where you come from, the words that most define us

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Speaker 18: are the two we all share.

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Speaker 5: New Yorkers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this doesn't sound like the mayor of New York.

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Speaker 2: This sounds like a guy running for head of his

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Speaker 2: freshman dorm. I mean, rugged individualism versus the warmth of collectivism.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable. But he wasn't done.

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Speaker 2: He's now appointed this lady named Cia Walker to be

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Speaker 2: in charge of his tenant landlord stuff.

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Speaker 3: She's the tenant director. Let's hear from Cea Walker.

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Speaker 2: Here's what she thinks about the concept of private property.

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Speaker 16: I think the reality is is that for centuries we've

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Speaker 16: really treated property as an individualized good and not a

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Speaker 16: collective good. And we are going to and transitioning to

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Speaker 16: treating it as a collective good and towards a model.

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Speaker 5: Of shared equity.

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Speaker 16: Will require that we think about it differently, and it

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Speaker 16: will mean that family is especially white families, but some

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Speaker 16: OC families to her homeowners.

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Speaker 5: As well, are going to have.

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Speaker 16: A different relationship to property than the one that we

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Speaker 16: currently have.

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Speaker 2: A different relationship to property, as in, you won't have

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Speaker 2: any relations with your property anymore.

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Speaker 3: It won't be yours.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 3: Time it again. I was assured by the media and the.

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Speaker 2: Democrats that Mam Donnie wasn't really a Communist despite his

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Speaker 2: own statements. Yet everywhere I turn now that he's the mayor,

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Speaker 2: I hear communist statements coming out of his mouth. I

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Speaker 2: hear him quoting communist leaders. I see communist advisors being appointed. Also,

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Speaker 2: Mam Donnie eliminated all the executive orders from the previous administration,

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Speaker 2: including the definition of anti Semitism. He appointed al Qaeda's

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Speaker 2: lawyer to be his chief counsel. I know this sounds crazy,

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Speaker 2: but Mam Donnie appointed an attorney who previously represented an

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Speaker 2: al Qaeda terrorist to be the city's chief counsel. Mamdanni's

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Speaker 2: lawyer is Ahmed all Darby. No, I'm sorry, that's the terrorist.

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Speaker 2: The lawyer is Ramsey Casum. This is the highest legal

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Speaker 2: position in New York City. He represented terrorist al Darby,

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Speaker 2: who pleaded guilty in twenty fourteen for his role in

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Speaker 2: a two thousand and two Al Qaeda terrorist plot.

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Speaker 3: It's a little long the nose for Mamdanni, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: He got involved in the Maduro situation over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: tweeting that he opposed Maduro's arrest. He said, I'd been

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Speaker 2: briefed on it. I've been monitoring the situation, bro. Nobody

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Speaker 2: briefed to you except your television and your social media feed.

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Speaker 3: He said.

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Speaker 2: He called Trump to complain. I was also assured by

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Speaker 2: the way Mamdanni only cares about affordability, really spends a

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Speaker 2: lot of time on Maduro, spends a lot of time

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Speaker 2: on rolling back protections for Jewish New Yorkers. He is

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Speaker 2: who he says he is, not who the media says

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Speaker 2: he is. He's a socialist. He is a communist, and

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Speaker 2: folks New York City is in a pickle.

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Speaker 3: That's it for today. Join us again tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Common sense For the American people, it's Scott on Salem.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, straight talking without the bluster. When you positively need

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Speaker 5: the truth, this is where you come. The Scotch Any

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Speaker 5: Show