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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is

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Speaker 5: You guys should all follow Chuck Grassley, by the way,

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Speaker 5: We have a new statement from President Trump on Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: So here we go, so Venezuela. I want to play

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Speaker 5: Okay, so the question is will this be I think

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Speaker 4: It's also a navy, you know, sea fleet right that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the same thing with those other countries we still

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna he's gonna basically choke the finances

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Speaker 5: And I feel like the best outcome we could have

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Speaker 4: In war torn Ukraine, elderly Jews like Maria face a

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited about our next guest, who I'm also

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Speaker 4: Steve Dace, host of The Steve Day Show. Steve, welcome

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Speaker 4: back to the show, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you, guys. God blessed. Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Merry Christmas. Excited to see you.

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Speaker 4: Lots going on this week's go be jam packed or

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Speaker 7: The number one thing I hope that we get out

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Speaker 7: Now, I kind of feel like I'm grandpa now and

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Speaker 4: Well, it kind of reminds me of that Elon Musk

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Speaker 7: You can't appoint yourself an apostle, you can't appoint yourself

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Speaker 7: a bishop, you cannot appoint yourself a leader.

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Speaker 3: And most of the people that try to do that.

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Speaker 7: You know, back in the day, when I was younger,

440
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Speaker 7: we used to say, you can't gloss yourself, right, And

441
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Speaker 7: so the guys that typically try to do that are

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Speaker 7: anything but about that life. And typically that stuff is

443
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Speaker 7: bestowed upon you organically by your peers. And I just

444
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Speaker 7: think there was a there was a unique combination both

445
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Speaker 7: of reverence for Charlie, respect for Charlie and his intellect,

446
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Speaker 7: fear of Charlie's intellect and his platform, and then you

447
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Speaker 7: know the fact that he was a good, decent human

448
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Speaker 7: being at the same time that uniquely put him into

449
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Speaker 7: that position. And I think what you're seeing now is

450
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Speaker 7: there's various elements, these various factions within our movement. Now, Libertarians,

451
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Speaker 7: you know what America for No, we're really America firsters.

452
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Speaker 7: Maybe America onliers. You know, maybe we need to have

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Speaker 7: a reconsideration of our relationship with Israel, maybe we can

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Speaker 7: have a partnership with the Islamic world. Maybe we need

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Speaker 7: to completely divorce ourselves from the Islamic world. The leaders

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Speaker 7: of these various factions now are kind of coming to

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Speaker 7: a head with their platforms to fill this void, and

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Speaker 7: that has created a lot of the dissension and argumentation

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Speaker 7: that you're seeing right now. And I think what we

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Speaker 7: actually really need is a real debate. I think we

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Speaker 7: need to have a real argument and in constructive ways

462
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Speaker 7: so that people can legitimately feel as if their voices

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Speaker 7: are heard. I said in the aftermath of the interview

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Speaker 7: that Tucker did with Fuentes that a lot of people

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Speaker 7: got worked up about, and I said this on my show.

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Speaker 7: I said, listen, trying to mainstream Nick Fuentes will destroy

467
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Speaker 7: our coalition on one end, trying to cancel Tucker because

468
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Speaker 7: he brings up topics you don't like and in ways

469
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Speaker 7: that all the time, frankly I don't even agree with,

470
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Speaker 7: will destroy it in the other end. All right, so

471
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Speaker 7: there's no win here by trying to cancel either side

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Speaker 7: of this various conversation. Well, we really need to have

473
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Speaker 7: our substantive debates, and I would urge the leaders of

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Speaker 7: these various factions that want to have their views reconsidered

475
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Speaker 7: now with this void left by Charlie's murder, then I

476
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Speaker 7: would urge them, and I would try to be responsible,

477
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Speaker 7: try to understand the collateral damage when you bring something

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Speaker 7: up and disagree and be willing to have and let

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Speaker 7: the leaders of the other side and the other factions question. You,

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Speaker 7: go on one another shows, go on one another's platforms.

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Speaker 7: You know, I know there's going to be lots of

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Speaker 7: breakouts and stuff here this week in America fest. You know,

483
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Speaker 7: this is really a time now that we need to

484
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Speaker 7: come now and reason together, as the Bible says, and

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Speaker 7: that's then the prophet Isaiah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm one thousand percent with you. I was

487
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Speaker 4: on Ross Douthit's podcast and released last week and it

488
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Speaker 4: was it was a great experience actually, and the reason

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Speaker 4: I did it was because we had originally booked Charlie

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Speaker 4: to be on Ross's show in October, and you know,

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Speaker 4: lo and behold, he invited me to come out in December.

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Speaker 4: So I was honored to take the endation and to

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Speaker 4: do it. And one of the things we talked about

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Speaker 4: was this this very thing, and I'm a proponent of

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Speaker 4: let's have the debate. Let's have the debate. The key

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Speaker 4: is is that in the online community it turns into,

497
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Speaker 4: you know, this kind of feud culture, which is not productive.

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what Charlie tried to avoid. We've been

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Speaker 4: trying to avoid it. And I think, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: if you can stay out of the personal mud slinging

501
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Speaker 4: and you get into the debate the actual merits of

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Speaker 4: the of the ideas, that's when that's the sweet spot.

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Speaker 4: You should not be afraid of.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 4: The feud culture, the mud slinging, the personal animist that

506
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Speaker 4: stuff can be really really distracting and and by the way,

507
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Speaker 4: it's really seductive as well.

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Speaker 5: The feud slinging and also just what they choose to

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Speaker 5: focus on. You know, since you mentioned Fuentes and others,

510
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Speaker 5: but that one of Charlie's best things is he really

511
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Speaker 5: was almost entirely focused on very practical politics. So he

512
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Speaker 5: was always he was always talking about the next race,

513
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Speaker 5: not even the big but this off year elections. He

514
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Speaker 5: would have been really hammering the Virginia New Jersey races,

515
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Speaker 5: and that's why we tried to do the same, and

516
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Speaker 5: or even Wisconsin's Supreme Court election, Tennessee by election. He'd

517
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Speaker 5: get whipped up for these things, and he'd fixate on

518
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Speaker 5: what could Congress be doing right now, what could the

519
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Speaker 5: president be doing right now that will have an impact

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Speaker 5: on the border, on your individual life, And when he

521
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Speaker 5: wasn't talking about politics, he was talking about that individual

522
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Speaker 5: life stuff. You should be going to church, you should

523
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Speaker 5: be you know, observe the Sabbath, if you can do

524
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Speaker 5: those things. And I do worry that a lot of

525
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Speaker 5: what's happened with the weirder stuff that's come into the right,

526
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Speaker 5: you know, arguing over I mean, let's be frank, a

527
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Speaker 5: lot of the stuff the debate about Israel, for a

528
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Speaker 5: lot of them, they really actually just want to hate

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Speaker 5: on Jewish people. And besides the fact that I consider

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Speaker 5: that generally morally wrong, it's also a huge distraction from everything.

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Speaker 5: And it occurred to me that there was this big

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Speaker 5: cancel battle going on in late October of this year,

533
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Speaker 5: right before important elections, and there were a lot of

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Speaker 5: people who weren't talking about that.

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Speaker 2: They were talking about whether it was okay to attack

536
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Speaker 2: world jewelry or not. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, and you know, Steve, and I'll throw this to you,

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Speaker 4: Charlie was always had this guiding north star. I think

539
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Speaker 4: that kept him very clear minded about what was important,

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Speaker 4: what wasn't and that was saved the West, Save America,

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Speaker 4: Save the West. And you postulate that there's really only

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Speaker 4: two ways we do that, what are those?

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Speaker 2: Steve?

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Speaker 7: I think one comes from above providence, and that's mass revival.

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Speaker 7: When you see that two percent of France, less than

546
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Speaker 7: two percent is evangelical. You see many of the old

547
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Speaker 7: Catholic cathedrals now are mosques or strip malls or just

548
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Speaker 7: barren buildings throughout much of Western Europe. We're beyond just

549
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Speaker 7: you know, rezoning laws and many practical political solutions to

550
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Speaker 7: that level of spiritual degradation. So we need mass, great

551
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Speaker 7: awakening level revival. It's not a coincidence that we had

552
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Speaker 7: great awakenings before we had you know, we had liberty

553
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Speaker 7: in America, we had pastors like John Winthrop and Jonathan

554
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Speaker 7: Edwards and others. So what can we do in the practicum,

555
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Speaker 7: Because that comes from above, and in the practicum, I

556
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Speaker 7: think we're doomed without a flat out, all out immigration moratorium,

557
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Speaker 7: and I might even extend it.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, ye say it again so they can hear

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Speaker 4: you in the bag, Steve.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we might be doomed without an all

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Speaker 7: out immigration moratorium at least five years. I'd say a

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Speaker 7: decade something along the lines with my good friend Congressman

563
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Speaker 7: Ship Roy is proposing right now with the Pause Act.

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Speaker 7: But I'd make it even more draconian. And I hate

565
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Speaker 7: saying this, guys. I mean, I put the fun in fundamentalism,

566
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Speaker 7: you know it. I like thumping my Bible, man, I

567
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Speaker 7: love it. Okay, but I'm not even sure how many

568
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Speaker 7: Christian asylum cases we can take because a lot of

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Speaker 7: them are going to come from countries that are dominated

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Speaker 7: by Islam.

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Speaker 3: So how do we know? How do we vet? How

572
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Speaker 3: do we know?

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Speaker 7: Because our current whatever the vetting system was around here

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Speaker 7: for the last twenty plus years, suck all right. Since

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Speaker 7: nine to eleven, we've taken in over three million people

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Speaker 7: from Islamic dominated countries. That is absolute cultural suicide. Well,

577
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Speaker 7: and I think we we've got to stop it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Steve, how many kids did they have?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 4: Okay, we took in three million, but are they having

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Speaker 4: you know, four point seven children each each couple there,

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Speaker 4: So is that really? Is that really closer to fifteen million?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: And you see what happened in Bondai Beach. I mean,

585
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Speaker 4: you know this is we the West is sleep walking

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Speaker 4: into cultural suicide. And there's many of us that are

587
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Speaker 4: are clapping our hands, waving, jumping up and down, saying

588
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: please wake up. Charlie was big on this, and there

589
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Speaker 4: seems to be a faction within our own ranks that

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Speaker 4: is I don't know more CosIng up to this idea

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Speaker 4: that we can be friends with. Uh, you know Islamists

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Speaker 4: that move into our into our own country. Yeah, there

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Speaker 4: are fifty Muslim majority countries in the in the world.

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Speaker 2: There's lots of options. You don't need to have them

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Speaker 2: move to the West.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, this is this is my question when the

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Speaker 4: West is insistent upon importing third worlders. By the way,

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Speaker 4: Trump just expanded his travel restrictions in additional twenty countries

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Speaker 4: and the Palestinian Authority doubling the number of nations affected

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Speaker 4: by sweeping limits announced earlier.

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Speaker 2: This travel ban, that's a very yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is you know, I'm totally okay with it.

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Speaker 4: I think, to your point draconian, he's he's getting more

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Speaker 4: serious about it. And by the way, when I talk

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Speaker 4: to any of my friends that are connected to the administration,

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Speaker 4: I just say, that is a popular policy. Please know,

632
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Speaker 4: we got your back. If there's one thing that you

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Speaker 4: is uniting right wing political online culture with political culture,

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Speaker 4: it's immigration.

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Speaker 2: So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 7: I mean, look at the Prime Minister of Australia, not

637
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Speaker 7: our hemisphere, but obviously it's a country that's founding, is

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Speaker 7: mired in Western you know, values and philosophies. Right after

639
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Speaker 7: what happened there, his immediate to call was for more

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Speaker 7: common sense gun control, you know. And no one can

641
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Speaker 7: rise above their own worldview. Worldview is destiny or the

642
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 7: Bible says, as a man thinketh so is he right?

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Speaker 7: And so if your worldview in response, you should be

644
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Speaker 7: tempted to go so far the other way that we

645
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Speaker 7: do have to say, hey, slow down, let's not just

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Speaker 7: go ahead and mass you know, collectively, guilt people because

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Speaker 7: of what happened here. Instead, the temptation is to double

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Speaker 7: down on the very policies that lead to more and

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Speaker 7: more of these tragedies. And when you're dealing with something

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Speaker 7: like that, that to me is again immigration moratorium. We

651
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Speaker 7: clearly cannot think this through right now. We need a

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Speaker 7: full stop right.

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Speaker 4: Now, and Steve, the only way you get that is

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Speaker 4: with a filibuster. But even if you did a filibuster,

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Speaker 4: if you nuke the filibuster.

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 4: All right, So, Steve, if you're calling for an immigration moratorium,

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Speaker 4: I am totally on board. I would do it for

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Speaker 4: at least a decade, but I'll take what I can get.

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Speaker 4: The question then becomes, how do you ave that political end?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: You're seeing today that four Republicans have broke in the

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Speaker 4: House for Obamacare subsidies. That is a very clear indication

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Speaker 4: that we do not have very tough people. Yeah, we

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Speaker 4: have a bunch of Democrat lights in the House and

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Speaker 4: probably in the Senate. You think Susan Collins, you think

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Speaker 4: Lisa Murkowski, you think Ram Paul, you think who else

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Speaker 4: you got? Mitch McConnell's still in there. Even if we

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Speaker 4: nuke the filibuster, you'd have to presume two things, One

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Speaker 4: that we have enough votes to do so, and secondly

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Speaker 4: that once we do so, we'd have enough political will

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Speaker 4: to accomplish the truly important critical pieces that will save America.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think we have either.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly why we need to try to do it though,

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Speaker 7: so our people can see. Remember, the Dred Scott case

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Speaker 7: is considered to be one of the key components that

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Speaker 7: led to the end of slavery in America. We lost

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Speaker 7: that case, but people got to see the US Supreme

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Speaker 7: Court look at a black man and say that's not

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Speaker 7: a person, it's property. And that clarifying that, that clarifier

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Speaker 7: I the abolitionist movement in the next era to do

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Speaker 7: what must be done to win. And so I think

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Speaker 7: we need to try these things, even if they fail

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Speaker 7: to spur on our people so that what comes after

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Speaker 7: Trump then is even more zealous for the kinds of

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Speaker 7: things we're talking about now that they fully know who

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Speaker 7: and what it truly is that we are aligned with.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, you might have just convinced me I've been really

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Speaker 4: wavering on this. I think Blake, Blake you're probably a

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Speaker 4: little bit on the other side of that argument, and

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Speaker 4: I've just been I admittedly i've been in the mushy

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Speaker 4: middle because I could see it going, like I'm gaming

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Speaker 4: it out how we could do this, and I don't,

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Speaker 4: but you might.

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Speaker 2: Have convinced, Yeah, it's it's just tough. It's tough, very hard.

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Speaker 4: We don't have the soldiers in the field right now.

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Speaker 4: But there's a.

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Speaker 5: Line like in science that science progresses one funeral at

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Speaker 5: a time, and I feel like Republican courage progresses one

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Speaker 5: retirement at a time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we just had another retirement announce in Washington State. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so we wanna get immigration done. We would all go

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Speaker 4: in favor of an immigration moratory. How many votes? So

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Speaker 4: let's set the filibuster nuking the filibusters side. Let's assume

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Speaker 4: that we can do that. Let's assume we get fifty

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Speaker 4: plus one. What happens next? How many US Senators would

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Speaker 4: vote for an immigration moratorium right now?

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 7: I don't think there's any chance it would pass, but

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Speaker 7: I think our people need to have this.

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Speaker 2: How many do you think we get? Ten?

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Speaker 3: You think I bet you get I bet you get it.

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Speaker 7: I bet you get twenty or twenty five because now

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Speaker 7: they're votes on the record, and you have to understand,

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Speaker 7: the way the Republican Party establishment works is an incumbency

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Speaker 7: protection racket, right, So they don't want a lot of

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Speaker 7: these things to even come up for a vote because

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Speaker 7: they don't want the base to know just truly how

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Speaker 7: weak a lot of the people.

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Speaker 3: That are voting for really are.

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Speaker 7: And so this kind of clarifier, you're gonna get the

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Speaker 7: people that were never with us, They're gonna get more

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Speaker 7: emboldened to be So then you're gonna get some squishy

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Speaker 7: people who don't want to be known that they're on

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Speaker 7: the wrong side of history here that would like to

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Speaker 7: keep collecting those pension points there in Washington, DC. So

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Speaker 7: I would guess we'd probably get half the Republican Senators

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Speaker 7: to vote for it.

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Speaker 5: It's even more treacherous than that, Steve, because think of

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Speaker 5: what happened with Obamacare, for example, where the Republicans would

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Speaker 5: endlessly hold those symbolic votes to repeal and replace Obamacare

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Speaker 5: because they knew it was not going to pass. So

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Speaker 5: what was you have in our Senate? How many of

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Speaker 5: them would vote for the full immigration moratorium as long

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Speaker 5: as they had ironclad confidence it was not actually going

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Speaker 5: to pass. And then if it seemed, oh, we have

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Speaker 5: fifty eight Republican senators, we could conceivably pass it, Suddenly

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Speaker 5: everyone gets shaky. There's problems with it. You have the

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Speaker 5: ghost of John McCain possess somebody and say, oh, I'm

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Speaker 5: actually going to vote with the Dems on this one.

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Speaker 4: So well, and here's the thing. You could do a

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Speaker 4: net zero immigration moratorium.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So the estimates are around two hundred to three hundred

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Speaker 4: thousand people US citizens and immigrants. Foreign born residents leave

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Speaker 4: the United States every year two to three hundred thousand.

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Speaker 4: So it's not like you're not allowing some movement of humanity.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: You can bring in a new h one v if

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Speaker 5: you spawn, if you get somebody else to.

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Speaker 2: Live, and you have to pay one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: I'm just picturing like a tech company and maybe Microsoft

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Speaker 5: or something, and they find refugees and they just say,

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Speaker 5: we'll pay you fifty thousand dollars, will resettle you in

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Speaker 5: this colony in a cheap country like Panama or something

757
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Speaker 5: like Trump can stand up like that, you're dumping people

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Speaker 5: there so they can bring in tech workers.

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Speaker 3: Trump can stand up on jokers right now, he can.

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Speaker 7: He can stand up like the joker, break the custick

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Speaker 7: in half and say we're gonna have tryout, all right,

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Speaker 7: all right, and so you've got to get before you.

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Speaker 3: Can come in.

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Speaker 4: This is yeah, I mean listen, but I actually think

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Speaker 4: some of these ideas. So a lot of people look, okay, okay,

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Speaker 4: Trump gold card, right that the Trump card or whatever?

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Speaker 4: Five million dollars people, And you know, I posted something

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Speaker 4: on on X and people are like something about how

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Speaker 4: you know a piece of paper doesn't make you an

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Speaker 4: American And they're like, yeah, we agree, what about the

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Speaker 4: Trump card. It's like, okay, we have have to have

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Speaker 4: a sum pragmatism in here. We have to look at

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Speaker 4: you know, for example, I'm against h one B's, but

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Speaker 4: I'm pro genius visas, so why can't they have more

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Speaker 4: geniuses moving.

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Speaker 5: At this point, I often just look at what China

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Speaker 5: does because they're just a country that doesn't hate themselves,

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Speaker 5: even if they're ideologically very different. And China has immigrants,

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Speaker 5: they just have very few. They find a world class

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Speaker 5: expert in something and they say, come here, we'll pay

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Speaker 5: you a million dollars a year, two million dollars a year,

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Speaker 5: and you have to teach these native Chinese everything, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that.

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Speaker 3: If you look at if you look at the H

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Speaker 3: one B program.

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Speaker 7: Guys, right now, there's about as many H one B

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Speaker 7: visas in America as there are college educated people in

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Speaker 7: the unemployment line. And so we keep being told that

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Speaker 7: Americans cannot do these jobs. So let me repeat that

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Speaker 7: there's about as many college degreed people in the unemployment

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Speaker 7: line in America right now as we have H one

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Speaker 7: B visas. I mean, if we're graduating from college and

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Speaker 7: you cannot even do baseline H one B visa work,

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Speaker 7: then I think we should seriously consider why we even

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Speaker 7: have college, which is a universities. And in the first place,

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Speaker 7: what are they other than learning how to become a

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Speaker 7: gay race communist. What are they doing there?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know it kind of I hate to I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's a funny line and I want to enjoy the moment,

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Speaker 4: but for some reason it it made me think of

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Speaker 4: poor Ella Cook at Brown University. You know, these the

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Speaker 4: the radical environment that she was living around, and we're

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Speaker 4: waiting on confirmation that she was indeed targeted. But I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna be honest, like it's hitting me. Like, you know,

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Speaker 4: the story didn't hit me as hard at first. It

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Speaker 4: felt sad and sympathy and I said a prayer for

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Speaker 4: her and her family. But as the days go on

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Speaker 4: and I sit with this, it's hitting me hard. I'm

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Speaker 4: like I'm having you know, it's hitting closer to home

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Speaker 4: because I think, but what happened to Charlie, and it

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Speaker 4: just is breaking my heart.

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know, these.

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Speaker 4: Universities, they had a lot of federal funding, they get

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Speaker 4: a lot of prop you know, they propped up and

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Speaker 4: they're you know, you're indoctrinating your your children. You're you're

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Speaker 4: playing Russian Roulette with their values. Steve Dace, we are

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Speaker 4: going to see you this weekend, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: That was a really fun conversation, Soky.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we appreciate you making the time.

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Speaker 7: We'll see it anytime I see you tomorrow, probably you

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Speaker 7: bet God bless.

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