1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Thank you for listening to your Daily Bible Verse, 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: a podcast that examines one verse each day to learn 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: more about God and his will for our lives. I'm 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Norman. After a brief message from one 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: of our sponsors, we will continue with today's verse. Today's 6 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: verse can be found in Genesis, chapter twenty eight, verse sixteen. 7 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought, surely the 8 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Lord is in this place and I was not aware 9 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: of it. How do you find God? Well, this was 10 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: the question that was recently asked of me. The questioner 11 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: was lamenting his struggle to find a place where he 12 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: felt connected with God. Ancient Israel had the Temple, which 13 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: was known as the House of the Lord. So where 14 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: do we go? He asked? Is this the local church? 15 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: But if so, how do I know which is the 16 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: right one? Are some churches more of God's House than others? 17 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: If I want to find God, he said, where do 18 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: I go? It's easy to believe that God dwells in 19 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: special places, and so finding God involves finding these special places. 20 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Celtic spirituality had a concept called the thin place. A 21 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: thin place describes a location where the veil between heaven 22 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: and earth is thin, is a place where heaven touches earth. 23 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: So if you want to connect with God, you just 24 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: need to find find one of these thin places. And 25 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: with that in mind, it might be easy to read 26 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: about Jacob's dream in the desert at Bethel as an 27 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: instance of a thin place. Jacob dreams about God's presence 28 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: because he finds himself sleeping in a place where heaven 29 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: touches earth will lucky him. But is that really what happens? 30 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: Could there be more going on if you don't remember 31 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: Jacob's story. Jacob is not the holiest of people at 32 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: this point. He's a liar and a deceiver, and he 33 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: had previously conned his brother out of his birthright and 34 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: stolen his blessing. Esau has vowed now to kill him. 35 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: So at the point when Jacob lays down to rest, 36 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: he isn't out for a stroll. He's not going on vacation. 37 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: He is running for his life. Jacob was neither trying 38 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: to find a holy place or find the Holy God. Internally, 39 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: he was probably anxious, maybe a little bit of afraid, 40 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: and he laid down to rest in what scripture calls 41 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: just quote a certain place because he was exhausted from 42 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: his running, and the sun was setting. This was an 43 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: ordinary patch of desert under an ordinary sky, under ordinary 44 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: stars on an ordinary day. But what made it holy, however, 45 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: was that God came and met Jacob. There, Jacob meets 46 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: the Lord. Jacob's dream is not about this special place. 47 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: It is about the presence of God with him. God 48 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: comes to Jacob in his confusion and his lostness. Now, 49 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: often when we read the story, we pay particular attention 50 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: to this ladder, to the stairway to Heaven, with angels 51 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: come and going. We call it Jacob's ladder. But the 52 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: point of the dream isn't the angels and is not 53 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: the ladder. The point of his vision was of God's presence, 54 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: because he sees God dwelling above the ladder, and God 55 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: expresses how Jacob is part of God's continuing plan and 56 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: how God would continue to journey with Jacob wherever he went. 57 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: To the very person who felt lost, the divine word 58 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: comes and says, You're not actually lost. You are a 59 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: part of God's plan. To a person who felt completely alone, 60 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: they hear the word you are not actually alone. I 61 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: will be with you, and I will continue with you 62 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: and This event begins Jacob's transformation, because in this moment, 63 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: he begins to understand that there is something bigger than 64 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: his own grasping and striving. Jacob begins to recognize, even 65 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: just for a moment, that God was not an abstraction, 66 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: and that God journeyed with him in his life. And 67 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: so he wakes up and he says, surely God is 68 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: in this place. Psalm one hundred and thirty nine has 69 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: a great way of describing what Jacob experienced. It says, 70 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: where can I go from your spirit? Or where can 71 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: I flee from your presence? If I ascend to the heavens, 72 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: you are there. If I descend down to the place 73 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: of the dead, you are there. If I take the 74 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: wings of the morning or go on the sea, you 75 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: are there. And scholars point out that these verses don't 76 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: describe the omnipresence of God, but the pursuit of God. 77 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: God comes to us no matter where we are, in 78 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: whatever corner of life we might find ourselves. This is 79 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: what Jacob experiences, God pursuing him. And so Jacob rises 80 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: in the morning and says, surely the Lord is in 81 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: this place. Not because it was a thin place that 82 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: Jacob happened to stumble upon but because Jacob was there 83 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: and God desired to meet him. Yes, God is everywhere, 84 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: but God also comes to us. God meets us where 85 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: we are, and in that way we get to say, 86 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: in every place, on every day, surely the Lord is 87 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: in this place. And we are not always aware of 88 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: God's presence. Like Jacob, we can be so easily filled 89 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: with other things that we never give ourselves the time 90 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: or the space to turn our attention beyond ourselves. But 91 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: God has promised never to leave us. So what might 92 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: it look like to simply stop, just like Jacob did? 93 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: What if we recognize that this place wherever we are 94 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: right now now could be our bethel, could be our 95 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: house of the Lord. What if, deep in our soul 96 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: we believe that God desires to be known and wishes 97 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: to meet us in this place right now? Could we 98 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: believe the place where we stand is a place where 99 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Heaven touches earth. And might we find ourselves, being soul 100 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: filled with awe, that we join Jacob in saying, surely 101 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: the Lord is here,