1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: The most successful mayor in New York City history, told 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: me something you've got to hear. Not that Ma'm Donnie's incompetent, 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: not that he's just another socialist, not that he's over 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: his head. No, no, no, he told me dead serious, mam. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Donnie is doing it on purpose. Rudy Giuliani joins me. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Right now, when you see what's going on in our 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: great state, the state where you and I are both from, 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: we're both from Metro New York, what goes through your mind? 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: They're communists, they have to be the locals. Stupid, She's 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: too stupid to be a communist. The other guy is 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: the other guy is a socialist. He's a complete socialist. 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: He's completely unrealistic. That they have no idea about money 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: or what money does or how it operates. Or they're 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: losing more people than any state in the country. Well, 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: that's not right. They're in a contest with New Jersey 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: and California right right, year in New York loses more, 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: the next year in New Jersey, the year after California. 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: They're losing people at a very serious level. Since he 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: got elected, it's gone up to numbers that are almost 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: impossible to track on a daily basis. All they're gonna 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: do is lose more people. After a while, they're occupying 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: rich people to tax. I mean you're you're at the point. 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: You're at the point at which there'll be no one 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: at tax and the city will fold. Technically, the city 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: right now is in bankruptcy. It's gonna it's gonna spend 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: about five billion more than it has. And he's and 27 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: and he's instead of trying to figure out how do 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: you fix that, he's trying to figure out how to 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: spend more money. And even the city Council, and that 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: you may I don't know if you remember, but the 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: New York City Council was always to the left of 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: almost any mayor I can think of, including Dinkins, Yes 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: and Adams for example. The city Council was wait, it 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: was left the city Council. I used to think of 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: the City Council as the craziest group of socialist morons 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: I had ever met. The City Council is trying to 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: stop them from raising taxes. And these people are are 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: almost u thorough going, uh left wingers. You couldn't get 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: more left wing than the New York City. They voted 40 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: for non citizens to vote, even though the state constitution 41 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: says you have to be as good as it. They 42 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: just they put out they put out uh resolutions. You 43 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: know when Castro is alive, how great Castro is. Uh. 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: They were very they were. They were broken hearted over 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: Maduro being being captured. Yet they don't want to raise 46 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: to access. 47 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: So that's something. 48 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: This is the definition. This is This isn't this is 49 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: an attempt to destroy New York City. 50 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: Well here's here's the point, though, Rudy and I don't 51 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: want to get past the city council yet because you 52 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: somehow figured out how to work for them or with them, 53 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: and you somehow, you somehow got them to do your bidding. 54 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: And they were not Republican, they were not conservative, but 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: they were people who loved the city. There's something different 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: going on right now because I look at New York City, 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: a city that you love and I love. I'm from Kopeg, 58 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm from Amityville. I'm from as the as a crow flies. 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: I'm like twenty minutes away from New York City. You're 60 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, right. 61 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: So right, right, I lived in Garden City for a while. 62 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: Right, So we're looking at the city that we love 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: and that a lot of people that are watching and 64 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: listening also love. And we're seeing people who hate it 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: who are running it. I don't understand. So let me 66 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: take you back to when you were elected. You take 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: office in what ninety four, right, New York City, and 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: New York has had enough of the vice. They had 69 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: enough of the disordid activity going on, the prostitution, they 70 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: enough the drugs, enough of the mob families doing what 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: they were doing. They had had enough, and they held 72 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: their nose and said, I'm going to vote for somebody 73 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: who's a Republican. And you were by far the best 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: mayor in the modern times in New York City, by far. 75 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: PATTACKI somehow wins in Albany, the state finally said we've 76 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: had enough, Rudy, It's way worse now than when you 77 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: took over. How did we get here? 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: Started with the Bosio We were we were really had 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: a golden age. If you combine my uh my years 80 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: with with with Bloomberg and Bloomberg. Bloomberg, although on certain 81 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: issues was a social left left winger, he was very 82 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: sound on law enforcement and on the economy. 83 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: And he loves the city. That makes a difference. 84 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: Hey, any care he made. He made decisions in the 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: best interests of the city. Every once in a while 86 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: they'd be way far to the left, but he really 87 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: believed they were in the best interests of the city. 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: But but but actually on law enforcement and on economics, 89 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: he was essentially a middle, middle of the road, a 90 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: normal person and a very intelligent guy. 91 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: And he depended a lot of what you did. 92 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: He did and he and he built on it. I 93 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: mean both as you should. So we go, We go 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: through twenty years of probably some of the best twenty 95 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: years the city ever had. Debasio comes in to Bosio 96 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: is a communist. His mother was a communist. But I'm 97 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: telling you he's a communist. That's not a joke. It's right, 98 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a reality. And he supported 99 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: the sand in East as he went to Cuba on 100 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: his honeymoon, all that kind of craziness. 101 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Wow. 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: And he began it. He began completely distorting the city, 103 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: putting the budget way out of control. He's the first 104 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: one to defund the police by a billion dollars. You 105 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 2: put all that together, and the city's in pretty bad shape. 106 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: When Adams takes over, right, Adams makes an attempt to 107 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: straighten it out. But he never had a city. He 108 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: never figured out how to get the city council on 109 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: his side. He started kind of a year a year 110 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: into his mayoralty. You didn't start right away, and it 111 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: didn't work. He didn't make it worse, but he couldn't 112 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: really make it very much better. So now we're in 113 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: we're in pretty much the kind of condition we were 114 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: in when I got into office. Change in numbers a 115 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: little and adjust for inflation. And he's doing exactly the 116 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: opposite of what I did when I came in. I 117 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: cut government right. I cut government because if I didn't, 118 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: I was going to I was going to encourage the 119 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: last twenty percent of New york Is to leave. And 120 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: I had to. I said to myself, it was a 121 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: common sense exercise. They wanted me to raise taxes almost everybody, 122 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: and I said, well, if I raise taxes now, I'm 123 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: going to lose more rich people, right two years from now, 124 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: after raise taxes again, and then again and then again, 125 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: and then when does it end. It ends when the 126 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: he becomes you know, old New York City used to 127 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: be a great city, is what they'll be saying about it. 128 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: And I did exactly the opposite. It worked brilliantly, so 129 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: you would think he'd follow that. I mean, he's got 130 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: he can look at it and you can see. He 131 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: can look at nineteen ninety four and he can see. 132 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: By nineteen ninety seven we had a surplus. He could see. 133 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: By nineteen ninety eight, we were considered the urban comeback. 134 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: We were on the front cover of Time magazine as 135 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: the example of urban renaissance, the best city for poor people. 136 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: This is before I was a Trump Republican. So they 137 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: actually liked me and wrote the truth about me and 138 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: why you would why you would do something opposite of 139 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: that has to be ideology. It has to be insane ideology. 140 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: But it's worse than that. He's want to talk. He's 141 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: with Islamic. He's an Islamic extremist supporter. I didn't say Islamic, 142 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: I said Islamic terrorist supporter. 143 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: Well he is, no, no, he supports the theocracy in Iran. 144 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: He literally is of of the same version of Islam 145 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: as though what the Ayatolas are. But he lively hit 146 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: it and I want to talk about this. It's Rudy Giuliani. 147 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: Go check him out. Rudigiliani dot com check out his 148 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: show every night. It's unbelievable how great this this guy is. 149 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: I watch just to learn how to do what I do, 150 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: so rudy as I'm watching it unfold. And I don't 151 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: want to insult New Yorkers. I'm a New Yorker. I 152 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: love New York, but there's something wrong in their brains 153 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: that I always think we're smarter than we are. Yet 154 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: they fell for this idiot saying affordability. They felt for 155 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: him saying I'm gonna give you a free bus fare. 156 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: They fail for this guy say I'm going to give 157 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: you free grocery stores, and then he takes office and says, 158 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: no free bus fair. I'm raising taxes on all the 159 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: employers that live here, and if you leave, we want 160 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: to charge you at tax before we will let you 161 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: leave the city. So the simple question is this, why 162 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: are New Yorkers, who are very you and I agree, 163 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: they're very smart people, very savvy people. Why did they 164 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: fall for the Yoki dog? Why did they buy this 165 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: guy when he was lying in their faces. 166 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: Everything you're saying, Pegs is absolutely true, It's absolutely correct, 167 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna have to give you a terrible answer. 168 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what. First of all, many of them 169 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: don't vote. I think if you could get them out 170 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: of their houses and force them to vote, he would 171 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: not be the mayor. But we get terrible to I've 172 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: forgotten what the turnout was in the last election, but 173 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,599 Speaker 2: it was, you know, twenty to thirty percent. Lesson it 174 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: was when I ran. De Blasio got reelected after being 175 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: a horrible mayor for four years. Not only that, you 176 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: couldn't find a person in the city that thought he 177 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: was a good mayor and he got re elected. Hard 178 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: to explain. If you go in New York now and 179 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: you go ask people about Mondom, they're all going to 180 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: agree with you. 181 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they all have reborts, Rudy, they all have 182 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: remorts doing it. But again, the guy just stood in 183 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: the street with a fake smile. I mean, this isn't 184 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: the same guy we have using fake accents, the same 185 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: guy eating with his hands in videos, the same guy 186 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna free everybody from Rikers Island. This guy 187 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: said those things on video and they elected him somehow. 188 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: What did I miss? Because if you and I lived there, 189 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: we'd make sure that we go and vote. Is it 190 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: about voter apathy is it about about? The Democrats are 191 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: relying on people not voting. 192 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: Apathy people about voting. The enthusiasm level is all to 193 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: the left. So the only enthusiastic people about politics in 194 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: New York are the left wing nuts. I mean they 195 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: win the primary, they win the Democratic primaries, right right. 196 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: You put him in it, you put it. You put 197 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: a left wing candidate in the Democratic primary. Uh, left 198 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: wing candidate is gonna win. Then you put him in 199 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 2: the general election, person is gonna We we elect the 200 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: most left candidate. And the reason is people. A lot 201 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: of people don't vote, but we do have a very 202 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 2: very strong thirty thirty five percent maybe forty percent, very 203 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: very left whatever whatever, whatever left wing fed there is, 204 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: New York will be part of it and adopt it. 205 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: Sixty percent of the people are probably against it, but 206 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: they they've also given up. They don't believe they're vote countants. 207 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: They don't believe Republicans can win. Why should I vote 208 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: my voting count? 209 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: Wow? 210 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: So having done, the Republican Party is pathetic in New York. 211 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: It never it never it never, it never really meant much. 212 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: I had to build my own party so to protag it. 213 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: Well, what I don't understand why doesn't the Republican Party 214 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: do a better job. Why can't you find like Andrew 215 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: Giuliani would have been a much better choice than what 216 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: we had last time. I love Curtis Lee, but he wasn't. 217 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: He didn't have a chance to win, not by the numbers. 218 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: And then people are pushing for Cuomo for God's sake, 219 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: really we want a Cuoma will he'd be better them. 220 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm donnie, why isn't there a young, up and coming 221 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani, you know, sort of formed after candidate that 222 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: can say I love New York. I'm gonna do it 223 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: because Rudy, will you come out and say publicly, I 224 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: want you to come back to New York. This is 225 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: what Kathie Hookles said yesterday. I'm gonna raise your taxes. 226 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: I want you to write a check, so come back 227 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: to New York so I can fleece you. Wouldn't it 228 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: be smart to say what Rudy Giuliani said, If you 229 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: bring business here, we'll give you a tax abatement. If 230 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: you bring some more jobs here, we'll give you a 231 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: tax break. Wouldn't that help the economy more than what 232 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: they're saying So why isn't there that person who's thirty, 233 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: forty fifty years old who says, I love New York. 234 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm born and raised here. I'm sick of seeing a 235 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: goal like this, and we can fix it. Where is 236 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: that guy or gal? 237 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: That person? Doesn't that person exists in an atmosphere in 238 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: which there isn't no hope. They would have to bring 239 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: that to the They'd have to bring that to the table. 240 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 2: We could find someone like that, but we'd have to 241 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: get lucky. It'd have to come out of the person themselves. 242 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because everyone. 243 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: Would tell them. Look, when I ran from I had 244 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: a great advantage. I had tremendous name recognition. I was 245 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: the US Attorney, right, I probably I probably had an 246 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 2: approval rating, you know, way beyond I ever had as 247 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 2: a mayor, because everybody approved of what I did as 248 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: the US Attorney, and every every friend of mine, good friends, 249 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: people who care about me, said to me, terrible mistake, Rudy, 250 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: What are you doing? Why are you running for a mayor? 251 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 2: First of all, you're going to lose, and second you 252 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: can't do the job. Nobody can do it. I don't 253 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: know if you remember they used to be books two 254 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: of them written saying New York cannot be governed. 255 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 1: Wow, I just didn't believe it. 256 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: I just said to myself that New York is a 257 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: creature of human beings. This is some kind of a 258 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: plague on New York. Of course it could be governed. 259 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: You just have to do it right. 260 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: And the thing is, the way that you were governing, though, 261 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: wasn't what we think today as traditional government. You gave 262 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: more freedom, more liberty, more safety, and security back on crime. 263 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you were governing the bad stuff right 264 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: the hell out of the city. But if you lived 265 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: in New York City during Rudy Giuliani's run, you were 266 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: a much safer, much more secure, and you had more 267 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: money in your pocket. New Yorker, you were somebody who 268 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: didn't feel the overwhelming thumb of the government on your neck. 269 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: Ma'm Donnie wants to take more of your money, ma'am 270 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: Doanni wants to the city to own your building that 271 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: you own. Ma'm Donnie wants to take over the schools. 272 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: And he also wants to go in front of a 273 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: microphone and say things like, well, Mohammed said, migration missed 274 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: that and the other I'm like, what am I looking 275 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: at here, how is this my city? So as much 276 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: as I agree with you that you governed it better, 277 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: it didn't feel that way. Does that make sense? It 278 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: felt more freedom? 279 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: I don't exactly, I don't exactly follow that. What I mean. 280 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: What I mean is you governed, but the people felt safer, 281 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: more secure, lower regulations, lower taxation, and more freedom. When 282 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: you have more freedom, you're not feeling the weight of government. 283 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, not at all. I mean, we we made, 284 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: we made, We tried as hard as possible to make 285 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: government as irrelevant as possible. 286 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly right, which is the key to success. 287 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: I mean, but that's but that, what I'm describing to 288 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: you is completely inconsistent with a socialist or a communist. Look, 289 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: he's doing exactly the same things that Zizien Ming is 290 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: doing in China. Yes, the Chinese economy, if we can judge, 291 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: because it's hard to look inside China, is actually in 292 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: terrible condition. And one of the big complaints even by 293 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: the Chinese communist is that Zijian Ming's answer is more government, 294 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: more central government, more government control, more government plans. And 295 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: they're beginning to say, we're going to blow up if 296 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: you keep doing this. Yeah, well, he's doing the same thing. 297 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: He's following Stalin, he's following Zizian ming uh and it's 298 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: a recipe for disaster for New York. I believe he's 299 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: doing wring it on purpose because I think he hates us. 300 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: I think he hates American American freedom, American democracy, American capitalism, 301 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: are founding fathers everything we stand for. Now you put 302 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,119 Speaker 2: on top of it that he's a very very extreme 303 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: follower of Mohammed and someone who's he takes the old 304 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: of office on a book that tells them to kill us. 305 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: I mean, the Quran is a book that is a 306 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: murder manual. And I know I'll get in terrible troubles 307 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: saying that, but I don't care. I mean, what do 308 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: they can put another fat woe on me. They've done 309 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: about four and they tried to kill me twice once 310 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: in Albania. 311 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: Has worked well, No, it hasn't worked well. They try 312 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: to kill you New. 313 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: York from the time he began it. It's a murder cult. 314 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: It has some good people that belong to it, but 315 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: they're they're still operating on a book. Well, you've got 316 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: to throw out about a quarter of its pages. I mean, 317 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: right in the right there it You shouldn't be friends 318 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: with Christians and Jews. You should slip that throads if 319 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: you want, if you want to allow them to live, 320 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: they're going to have to be slaves. Now, how how 321 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: can you possibly uh, how can you possibly go around 322 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: saying this is a great book and Muhammad's a perfect man. Yeah, 323 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: he's a perfect man, except he was a mass murderer 324 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: and a pedophipt. 325 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now I listen, I don't disagree. And again, let 326 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: me reiterate something that I just learned a few days ago. 327 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: His the Islam that he follows is exactly what the 328 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: Iahtolas follow. He is a Shia of that same exact ILK. 329 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: He's not a Sunnis. He's not not somebody who's peaceful. 330 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: He's somebody who actually comes from that that ilk. That's 331 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: why he talked about on Saint Patrick's Day in New York. 332 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: He talked about the genocide in Gaza. For God's sakes. 333 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: What so, Rudy, let me ask you this, do you 334 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: think that the people of New York have the wherewithal 335 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: to rise up and go, oh crap, I was asleep, 336 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: Now I'm awake. We can't let this continue because he 337 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: can't succeed. His level of success would be to ruin 338 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: the city. 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He goes 373 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: anytime the left wing leaned on CMO, he went way. 374 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: For example, all the crime issues that we have, all 375 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: the laws that were passed. It put about seven to 376 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: ten thousand criminals on the street that be in jail 377 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: if I was mayor were passed by Cuomo. I'll give 378 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: you one law that he passed. He changed the parole rules, 379 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: and there are forty seven cop killers walking around on 380 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: the streets of the city who have been paroled or 381 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 2: put out of jail because of Cloma. 382 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: Wow. 383 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: I mean, so Cuomo would have done two thirds of 384 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: what he did and we'd be marching towards there. There. 385 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: I thought that, well, it's time now, if you really 386 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: want this, vote for it and see what happens with 387 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: the hope that they would rise up against it. So far, 388 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: that's not happening. I don't feel that right now. Now 389 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: we still have time. He's got, you know, three more 390 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: years in office, and there's a lot more damage he 391 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: has in store for us. I hope there comes a 392 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: point that that happens, and then there has to Then 393 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: we have to be lucky like we were in finding 394 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: in finding Ronald Reagan at the right time, or Donald 395 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: Trump at the right time, or me. We have to 396 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: find somebody like one of ours, us that is willing 397 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: to go against the grain. And in New York you're 398 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: going to pay a terrible price for it. They're going 399 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: to try to ruin you should you get maybe try 400 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: to kill you. I don't know, I mean, but I 401 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: mean they they they turned me into a public monster 402 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: as best they could. Except I did what I was 403 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: on radio. I was on radio and television every day constantly. 404 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 2: Newsday did an editorial about six months into not an 405 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: editorial front page, and an editorial front page a picture 406 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: of me with a microphone in front of me like this, 407 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: and they said, air Routie. He's never off the air. 408 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: When does he have time to do his job as mayor? Well, 409 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: that was part of my job as mayor. Absolutely I 410 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 2: had to. I had to interpret myself to people before 411 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: they ruined me, before they lied about me. Well, isn't 412 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: that what Donald Trump is doing right now with a 413 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: two hour press conference. 414 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: Yes, the most transparent presidency I've ever seen in my life. Ever. 415 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: He has to do that. He has to do that. 416 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: He has to be explaining himself otherwise. You know, if 417 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: you read the European newspapers, I've just got finished doing 418 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: a little survey of them for my show We're Losing 419 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: the War. 420 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the Emirates? 421 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: The Emirates is getting ruined? Wow, there have been only 422 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: six deaths in the Emirates. They've shot they've shot off 423 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: about six thousand bombs and they've killed six people. Now, 424 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: that's terrible, it's awful. My heart goes down to the 425 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: six people. 426 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Right. 427 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: But that's not winning a war, my friend. Yeah, that's 428 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: being an absolutely innofit. Or they'll say this is a 429 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: brilliant asymmetrical war being fought by I don't know who's 430 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: left to fight. The asymmetrical war is. Look, they're attacking 431 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 2: all those Arab countries because the Arab countries will put 432 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: pressure on Trump and the war they're not. The Arab 433 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: countries are now telling them, will you please finish this 434 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: regime off? 435 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've had it. No, they're done it. They've had 436 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: them for forty seven years, one hundred percent. They're done far. 437 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: Enough to know if they survive, a rand will come 438 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: after them again. So it isn't working. Nothing they're doing 439 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: is working. Even Hermos Hermos had to happen. It's a 440 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: force of nature because of the of the way they 441 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: decided to export oil oil for seventy eighty years. 442 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: Right, But we'll overcome it. 443 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: It's a matter, it's a matter of having to have 444 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: a little sacrifice for a little while but. 445 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: I want to finish on New York this week as 446 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: soon as. 447 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: We stop them. Yeah, I'm blocking that, and that'll take 448 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: a week or two and they'll be finished. Finished. 449 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: Well, it would take a short amount of time if 450 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: our friends in Europe helped out, but I guess they're 451 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: too afraid to. At Rudy Giuliani Rudygiliani dot com, check 452 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: out the Rudy Giuliani Show and anything he does, go 453 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: and follow him everywhere. Let me finish on New York 454 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: this way. The mayor of New York has a ton 455 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: of power, has a ton of ability to make things 456 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: that he wants in that city. But the governor also 457 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: has to agree to some things all but he plays 458 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: a big role as well. Should we get a Republican 459 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: governor in there, can that person bring down what Mamdani 460 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: is doing. Is there any control from Albany that can 461 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: tell him stop doing this? You're ruining the state, You're 462 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: ruining the city. 463 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot, a lot of the budget in New 464 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: York comes from from the state. They probably between the 465 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: federal government and the state government. So if you continued, 466 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: you know, if you had two more years of Trump 467 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 2: or and then a Republican and they work together together, 468 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: they could have an enormous amount of impact on New 469 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: York and the White House could too. They really should 470 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: begin a massive investigation of fraud in New York. I mean, 471 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: it would be very fruitful. I'll give you one example, 472 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: and I'll tell you the whole whole story. The budget 473 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: of the New York City is larger than the budget 474 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: of the state of Florida. Oh wow, So New York 475 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: City spends more money than the entire state of Florida. 476 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 2: New York City has eight point five million people. Florida 477 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: has twenty two million people. What do you think that 478 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 2: money is for? 479 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: You know what it's for. 480 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: It's free kickbacks. It's for the public officials giving massive 481 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: way way accelerated prices and contracts to their buddies and 482 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: then carving it up, particularly all of the welfare programs, 483 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: which is all we spend money on anyway, and they've 484 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 2: been doing it. They've been doing this in London, Johnson. 485 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: I mean, the Democrat Party in New York is thoroughly, 486 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: from top to bottom corrupt. It is systemically corrupt. The 487 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: judges are corrupt. They decide political cases based on what 488 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: the people who put them in office. Tell them the 489 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: county leaders. If you're a Republican boy, you might as 490 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: well you're going to veteran Russia or China. 491 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: Well, i'd say that that's a startling statement. It really is. 492 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: But I can't believe the budget is larger than it 493 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: is of Florida. And you're right, it's all about kickbacks, 494 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: it's all about fraud, it's about waste, it's about abuse. 495 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: But if you try to take even a dime away ruty, 496 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: what do they say. You're taking services away from people 497 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: who need them. You're taking housing away from homeless, You're 498 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: taking food away from starving kids. I mean, this is 499 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: the lie, and for some reason people fall for it. 500 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: If we were if we were doing that for the 501 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: last sixty or seventy years of Democrat government in New York, 502 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: the poor people will be oh, be billionaires. We spent 503 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: so much money. 504 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: It didn't work. I guess it didn't work. 505 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: Instead, the Democratic congressman become millionaires like Charlie Wrangele, who 506 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: didn't have a penny dies, you know, worth thirty million. 507 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: My predecessor and the guy that I eventually beat, David Dinkins, 508 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: becomes a multi millionaire in office by voting for Inn. 509 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: City Broadcasting, right. 510 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 2: I mean that the politicians in New York are one 511 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: after or another. They sell out the people in New York, 512 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: particularly the members of Congress. I mean all of them. 513 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: You go, you go audit them, and my god, if 514 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: you can't, if you can't put at least a few 515 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: of them in jail, you shouldn't be a prosecutor ordered 516 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: any any ordered anyone of the big money uh dependency programs. 517 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: That's where that big gap in the budget has taking place. 518 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: I mean, we spend more money on Medicaid than we print. 519 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's insane. Uh. You go, you go, ask, 520 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: you go, try to find the people they're servicing. They 521 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: don't exist. The people are dead, You're made up. They 522 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: moved out of the city fifty years ago. And if 523 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: you think Minneapolis, I mean Minneapolis is a minor league 524 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 2: rendition of New York. 525 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. Yeah, nine or nine or eighteen 526 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: billion of Minneapolis. We're not sure which one it is. 527 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: It's Rudi Giuliani, Rudigili. I would be remiss to not 528 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: go here. I gonta want to switch gears big time. Rudy, 529 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: have you been vindicated on the election from twenty because 530 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: of the information that's coming out of Georgia, at Americopa County, Arizona, 531 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: out of Michigan. I had a guy on, former CIA 532 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: whistleblower came on and he said, absolutely, Serbia, Iran, China, 533 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: and very specifically Venezuela affected the outcome of our elections 534 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: in this in this country. Have you been vindicated or 535 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: do we not know enough yet? 536 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: Well? I believe I've been vindicated. We don't We don't 537 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: publish enough, or we don't emphasize it enough, or we 538 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: hide it or to this day, the Wall Street Journal 539 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: describing Donald Trump will say, once again, the president falsely 540 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 2: stated that the election was fixed. So they have they 541 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: have decided that there's a truth written in stone that 542 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: the election was legitimate. And even though there are now 543 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: oh six hundred thousand ballots in Georgia that have either 544 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: been destroyed or are completely uncertified, six hundred thousand, the 545 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: vast majority, if not all, of them from Democrat areas, 546 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: they're still insisting that you know, the election wasn't stolen. Pennsylvania. 547 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: The numbers change in Pennsylvania every time you count Wisconsin 548 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: has a definitive report from a judge explaining how the 549 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: Supreme Court shate have overturned the election because they didn't 550 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: have certifications for ballots that, according to the law of Wisconsin, 551 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: should be declared invalid, but the Supreme Court decided that 552 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: it'd be too harsh and Remedy. I just gave you 553 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: three states to change the election. You want to go 554 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: look at Arizona, Michigan. 555 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely listen. At the end of the day, we now 556 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: have concrete fact that with these legacy media, what you're 557 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: saying about how he stole falsely claiming it was stolen, 558 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: they're wrong. We actually have these CIA whistleblowers, and I 559 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: had both of them on my show. They would be 560 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: in prison if they were lying about this. They're here, 561 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: they're in the United States, and they gave all the 562 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: information to the administration. So if you were the age 563 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: at the DOJ, if the President said, we've got all 564 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: the information, now, what do you do with that? Do 565 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: you start arresting people, do you start prosecuting people? Do 566 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: you say we're going to get a real count on 567 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: what happened in twenty Rudy, I don't want us to 568 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: move past it. It's been six years now and people 569 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: are like, Ah, what happened, happened, don't worry about let's 570 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: focus on the midterms. No, I wanted. I think the 571 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: American people have the right to know what happened in twenty. 572 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: I think that as a real split within our party 573 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: and even within the people around the president. There are 574 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: those who agree with you and me, and I think 575 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: the President agrees with it deep down. And I'll tell 576 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: you why I agree with it. I agree with it 577 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: because we don't end this until we face it's absolutely 578 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: this could happen all over again. Uh, if not next time, 579 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: the time after. The Democrats do this for a living. 580 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: This is there that they've been great at it, and 581 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: in one way or another, they've been doing it since 582 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: Boss Tweet. I mean they're experts at Yes, if we 583 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: don't bring it out big time and have the American 584 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: people have to face it and realize how their their elections, 585 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: many of them have been have been rigged for a 586 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: very long time. And here here are the ways they're done. 587 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: It's pretty easy to explain, Uh, we're going to have 588 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: We're going to basically give away our democracy. And that's 589 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: why it has to be done now the people, some 590 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: people around him feel that for him, that won't be 591 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: good because you'll never get the message across because of 592 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: the media. No matter what you do, if he prosecutes them, 593 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: they'll make it look like he's prosecuting his enemies. 594 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 1: Right. 595 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: Look, they are his enemies, but there's a reason to prosecute. 596 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: They were prosecuting their enemies for no reason. 597 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: Right, and they knew there was no And that's the difference. 598 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: It was only about only about politics. 599 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: We're propagated for crimes against the republic. You know. I'll 600 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: give you that perfect example of Ukraine, Ukraine Zelensky and 601 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: I support Ukraine and I'm against Russia, and I think 602 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: we should defeat Russia. But that's me. However, Zelensky's got 603 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: all the evidence that would prove beyond any doubt that 604 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: the bidens took so much Bride money out of out 605 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: of Ukraine to make your headspin and probably about twenty 606 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: other American politicians. Zelensky's got all that in a file. 607 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: Well, Biden's that Biden's that why why not release it? 608 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: Biden's out now because he's a crook. And also they'd 609 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: probably kill him. I was told by a prosecutor in. 610 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: Ukraine, one of one of the few legitimate ones, right right, 611 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: an investigator. He showed me some of the file. He said, 612 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: if I ever should I hold you that entire file, 613 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: you'd have a lot of you'd have a lot of 614 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: empty seats and washing it. Wow, they've been they've been 615 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: feasting off this country since twenty fourteen, and it all 616 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: started with Obama. And they're going to be a lot 617 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: more than the go to jail than you think. There'll 618 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: be a few of you guys to Republicans and America 619 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: you're like, which I should tell me who? He said, 620 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: you can figure it out. 621 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: America's mayor Rudy Giuliani, let me ask you one last question. Rudy, 622 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: thanks for the time of the access. We got to 623 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: get together in person. Soon. Will the Save America Act 624 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: fix this? Will the midterms be fair and free? If 625 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: they can get the Save America Act done. I don't 626 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: think it's going to get done. John fun is a 627 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: very weak man. But if they somehow get it done 628 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: and get it to the President's desk, will that have 629 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: a major effect in November? 630 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: Big? Yeah, Yeah, it'll it'll cut out. It'll cut out 631 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: enough of the fraud, so it'd be really hard to 632 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: steal the election. What we really have to do is 633 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: what the President talks about. We've got to go to 634 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: straight paper ballots that are that are kept and that 635 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: are dealt with securely, and that we can go and 636 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: recount honestly when we have to. France does it for 637 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: the whole country, and they get it done by the 638 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: next day. There'd be no reason why we can't do that. 639 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: There should be no there should be no absentee voting 640 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: except under the except under very various stringent circumstances. You know, 641 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: every European country, every European country just about did away 642 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: with mail and voting because all of them had an 643 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: integrity problem based on it. France did, England did, Sweden did. 644 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: The Carter Baker Commission wrote right after the twenty two 645 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: thousand election that the worst and easiest to achieve form 646 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 2: of voting is absentee voting. Now Carter while he was alive, 647 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: and Baker walked away from that right and they actually 648 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 2: said their report didn't really say that. I'll go get 649 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: you the language it did that. 650 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: It did say that Jimmy Carter was the big the 651 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: biggest opponent of it. 652 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got a big footnote with about thirty countries listed, 653 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: but they had to. 654 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,479 Speaker 1: Walk away from it because it didn't help their side. 655 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: For me, we've got to get this thing done. I'll 656 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: leave you with this. Do you think food is going 657 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: to be able to rally the troops, do it talking, 658 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: filibuster and get it done. You gotta cram it through 659 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: now you have to. 660 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 2: Well, I never give up until it's over. But I 661 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 2: agree with you. I'm very nervous that, first of all, 662 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 2: the will isn't there to do it. And second, even 663 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: if he had the will, I'm not sure. I mean, 664 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 2: I cannot understand how the Democrat Party gets away with 665 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: something that seventy percent of their own party wants, eighty 666 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: percent of the American people want. And there's an example 667 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: of Democrats don't equate their self interest with their vote. 668 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: They do the same thing on school choice and vouchers. 669 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 2: Seventy percent of Democrats agree with that. Yeah, and particularly 670 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: black and Hispanic ones, and then they vote for black 671 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: and Hispanic candidates will double cross their kids. 672 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: It's dounning. Well. I pray that he can get this done, 673 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: because if you don't have it, I don't know that 674 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: I'll trust the election coming up because nothing's changed since 675 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It's Rudy Giuliani, got Rugiliani dot com of course, 676 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: the hosts of Rudy Giuliani Show every single night, even 677 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: though I'm on the air, Rudy, when you're on, I 678 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: still peek over on the commercial breaks if I know 679 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: what the hell you're talking about. They got me. Well, 680 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: well listen to no. Absolutely, we'll do that. America's mayor, 681 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: great friend of ours. Love you, Rudy. Thanks for stopping by. 682 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: Today very much to say I can't can't wait to see. 683 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be very soon, hopefully. We appreciate you. 684 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this one. We're back 685 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: with another one very soon. Make sure you subscribe