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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Shammer and this is the Josh Hammer Show.

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Speaker 1: Coming up later on the program, Jay Collins, the current

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor of Florida and a recently announced candidate for

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Speaker 1: governor of Florida, stops by the program to talk about

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Speaker 1: his campaign, his experience, why he is running, and so forth.

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Speaker 1: But for now we turn our attention to the news Greenland.

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Speaker 1: Greenland has been in the news for some months. Stop

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Speaker 1: me if you had that one on your bingo card

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Speaker 1: going into Donald Trump's scond term, because I'll be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, I certainly did not. Donald Trump surprising a

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Speaker 1: lot of people with his month's long assertive campaign to

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Speaker 1: either acquire or at least to extend the American sphere

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Speaker 1: of influence into what is the world's largest island, the

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Speaker 1: island of Greenland, which for some time has been a

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Speaker 1: territory governed in semi aut Thomas fashion by the Kingdom

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Speaker 1: of Denmark. We are big proponents of the Greenland push

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Speaker 1: here on the Josh Hammer Show. There are any number

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Speaker 1: of individuals out there who tend to clutch their pearl

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Speaker 1: and to say that what is Donald Trump wasting his

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Speaker 1: time for when it comes to this push to Greenland.

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Speaker 1: He's been he's been very very vocal. He's very vocal,

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Speaker 1: he's not mincing words. He's doubled down, He's tripled down.

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Speaker 1: Earlier this week, he had a text message exchange with

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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister of Norway, which the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 1: Norway actually leaked because he was so put off by

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's aggressive tone when it comes to asserting the

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Speaker 1: American interest in acquiring Greenlands. For a long time, for

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Speaker 1: a long time, Donald Trump has been saying that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna just We're gonna get Greenlands, and for a while

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Speaker 1: he refused to rule out military action. Well, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: has been over in Davos, Switzerland at the World Economic Forum,

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Speaker 1: and in Davos he did indeed rule out military action,

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Speaker 1: as if you need him to do that, as if

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump actually was going to seriously consider a literal

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Speaker 1: military invasion of a Danish NATO territory. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: what is wrong with people? I mean, how bad is

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Speaker 1: TDS Trump arrangement syndrome. Frankly, not just on the left

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Speaker 1: but also on the controlled opposition right. How bad is

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Speaker 1: TDS that you really need the commander in chief to

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Speaker 1: actually clarify that he was not going to use military

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Speaker 1: force to invade Greenland. I think back all the way

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Speaker 1: to the twenty sixteen presidential campaign cycle, it was a

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Speaker 1: wonderful journalist by the name of Selena Zito.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I've heard of her, maybe you haven't.

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Speaker 1: Selena Zito, who is a Pennsylvanian, was known in that

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Speaker 1: cycle and in subsequent cycles as really the right of

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Speaker 1: Keystone state, of the conwell of Pennsylvania. She said back

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen that you should take Donald Trump seriously

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Speaker 1: but not literally. That's how we do it here on

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Speaker 1: the Josh Hammer Show. That's how I would encourage you

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Speaker 1: at home to do it as well. So when Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump says We're going to take Greenland essentially by any

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Speaker 1: means necessary, that's a paraphrase, but it's more or less

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Speaker 1: what he said. He's not actually going to use military

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Speaker 1: eu freaking people there. So the fact that he felt

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Speaker 1: compelled to actually clarify this at Davos, frankly, just says

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Speaker 1: more about the utterly stupid state of tedd.

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Speaker 2: Yes in my judgment, than anything else.

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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, Dan Trumps saying that he is not going to

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Speaker 1: actually use military force to acquire Greenlands. The big news,

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Speaker 1: The big news now just over the past day and

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Speaker 1: Trump is getting ready and is stealing himself to actually

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Speaker 1: have something less than full territorial acquisition of Greenland. In

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Speaker 1: the first place, it's a very lengthy history of US

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Speaker 1: territorial acquisitions. Maybe you forgot about that thing called the

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Speaker 1: Louisiana purchase in eighteen oh three, Thomas Jefferson presiding over

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Speaker 1: this gargantuan purchase from the French of the territory, beginning

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Speaker 1: in the Mississippi Delta in Louisiana, then going northwest from

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Speaker 1: there into large swaths of what is now the American Midwest.

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Speaker 2: There was that.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, we've actually engaged in high profile territorial acquisitions from

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Speaker 1: the Danes themselves. The US Virgin Islands. Maybe you've heard

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Speaker 1: of it, maybe you haven't. Who do we purchase the

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Speaker 1: Virgin Islands from?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be Denmark. We did that just under

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Speaker 1: a century ago in the nineteen teens, nine teen seventeen,

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Speaker 1: if memory search, we have a very lengthy history of this.

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Speaker 1: But but but is Donald Trump getting ready to call

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Speaker 1: off the full threat of territorial acquisition. Well, here was

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump on Fox Business explaining what he's thinking at

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Speaker 1: this time when it comes to the US interest in.

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Speaker 3: Greement, getting everything we wanted, total security, total access to everything,

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Speaker 3: have as many bases, have all the equipment that we want,

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Speaker 3: and very importantly, you know, we're building the Golden Dome.

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Speaker 3: We call it. We sculled the Iron Dome somehow the

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Speaker 3: Golden Dome sounded a little bit better. But we have

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Speaker 3: a technology that's second Donner. And you saw what we

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Speaker 3: and it's amazing. It's just you know, it's a fool

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Speaker 3: proof and we're going to be building it and it

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Speaker 3: works much better when we have access to Queenland, just

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Speaker 3: covers more territory, covers it more accurately, missiles will be

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Speaker 3: more accurate by having it's very important strategically as a piece,

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Speaker 3: and we will have all everything we want, everything we

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Speaker 4: So the.

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Speaker 2: Golden Dume will be on Greenland.

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Speaker 3: A piece of it. Yes, and it's a very important

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Speaker 3: part because it's everything comes over Greenland. If the bad

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Speaker 3: guys start shooting, it comes over Greenland. So we knock

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Speaker 3: it down.

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Speaker 1: So Trump clearly bullish on the prospects of missile defense

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Speaker 1: there on the island of Greenland. He also cares quite

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Speaker 1: a bit about rare earth minerals, Greenland having one of

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Speaker 1: the largest largest reserves of these much coveted rare earth minerals,

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Speaker 1: a lot of which are deeply important for things like

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Speaker 1: semiconductors and chip making. Trump very bullish certainly when it

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Speaker 1: comes to that, and in fact, he was so bullish

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Speaker 1: he actually went ahead and formally called off the threat

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Speaker 1: of tariff. So he had temptively been planning to impose

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Speaker 1: punitive tariffs on various Western and Northern European countries beginning

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Speaker 1: on February first, in response to their refusal to negotiate

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Speaker 1: for Denmark to sell Greenland to the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: This was a move that even a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: on the Western Northern European right were not particularly happy by.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Nigel Farrage, who is potentially God willing, god

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Speaker 1: next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, the leader of

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, even Nigel Frag went on British television and

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Speaker 1: said that he was quite upset with his friend Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: with the Europeans and with Denmark particular when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Greenlands, to which I basically say, why are you

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Speaker 1: so upset?

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Speaker 2: Admittedly you don't.

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Speaker 1: Want Nigel Frage, who is an amazing politician in most

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Speaker 1: a lot of folks were stipulating their concern that they

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Speaker 1: thought that with Donald Trump's tactics, with his rhetoric and this,

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Speaker 1: in Beijing. In other words, the risk, according to these folks,

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Speaker 1: is that Europe could ditch the United States in this

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Speaker 1: twenty first century great power competition for America's great geostrategic rival,

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Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party, to which I respond.

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Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. How do I know, because it's

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Speaker 2: just not.

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Speaker 1: I live in the real world. China, for it's worth,

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Speaker 1: has been completely humiliated in terms of a great power

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Speaker 1: especially when I'm talking here about Iran and Venezuela. China

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Speaker 1: and Russia were both totally humiliated in Iran last June.

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Speaker 1: Iran is in many ways a client state of Russia

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Speaker 1: and China. What I what did Iran get from Russia

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Speaker 1: other nuclear sides. What did Iran get from Russia and China?

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Speaker 2: Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Literally nothing, They didn't lift a finger. What did Nicholas

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Speaker 1: Muduall in Venezuela get from Russia in China? Just days

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Speaker 1: prior to the stunning staggering operation to extract Nicholas Maduro

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Speaker 1: to them, Russia Pudin actually put In personally reassured Nicholas

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Speaker 1: Mudurero that Russia has his back. A day or two,

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Speaker 1: like literally twenty four to forty hours prior, Shi Jimpayn

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Speaker 1: So this notion of the European powers are going to

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Speaker 1: to the General Secretary Mark Rute if I'm pronouncing his dutched

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Speaker 1: in correctly, the notion of the europe Powers we're going

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Speaker 1: to go anywhere other than Daddy Trump, and we're going

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Speaker 1: Pooh Shi Jimping and Beijing.

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Speaker 2: It's nuts.

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Speaker 1: It defies common sense, it defies any kind of semblance

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Speaker 1: of reality. And frankly, the folks who are pushing this,

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Speaker 1: I think are indeed reaking yet again of Trump arrangement syndrome.

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Speaker 1: We was playing on the show before, but it's worth

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Speaker 1: just emphasizing yet again. The United States has a very,

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Speaker 1: very long history of expressing interest in trying to acquire

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Speaker 1: perhaps all of Greenland, or at least get greater military

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Speaker 1: and other forms of access there on the island of Greenland.

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Speaker 1: Going all the way back to eighteen sixty seven, two

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Speaker 1: Johnson first explored the possibility of purchasing Greenland and Iceland. Instead,

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Speaker 1: they settled for Alaska, another ice box purchase that really

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Speaker 1: of the Book of Genesis flash forward all the way

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Speaker 1: to World War two. FDR actually took over Greenland's defense

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Speaker 1: War geopolitical setting. Harry Truman actually offers one hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars in gold to buy it. He was rebuffed at

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Speaker 1: and Kennedy were constantly negotiating for bases, radar missiles, Clinton, Bush,

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Speaker 1: Obama in more recent times all expanded Arctic security. And

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump also expressed interest in this back during his

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Speaker 1: first presidential term, which is why you had Senator Tom

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Speaker 1: for acquiring Greenland in a lot of this history courtesy

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Speaker 1: of a Twitter account known as Max Manners, providing the

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Speaker 1: history here in clear fashion of the US interest in Greenland.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is correct when it comes to the national

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Speaker 1: interest in Greenland. Greenland is indeed important for deterring Chinese

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Speaker 1: and Russian hegemony incursion into our hemisphere. And let's not

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Speaker 1: So longtime listeners and viewers of the show know that

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Speaker 1: back to Josh Amer Show. It's it's really an honor

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Speaker 5: Well, it's always good to see you, Josh, and I'm

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Speaker 5: You know, God's plan is so much bigger than ours, Josh.

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Speaker 1: You can follow Jay Collins on X at j Collins FL.

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Speaker 1: You know you have a very very strong military background.

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Speaker 5: You know, being a member of our military, servant out

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Speaker 5: We love this nation. God has blessed this nation. We

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Speaker 5: We're the only state with two combat veterans in the

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Speaker 1: So why are you the best candidate to carry on

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you. I think it comes down to

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Speaker 5: It's about performance. If you're going to live in the

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Speaker 5: I've done that my entire life. Governor de Santis was

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Speaker 5: That's why I will be the next Florida governor and

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Speaker 1: I could agree more with that, that is for sure.

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Speaker 1: You know when Paul Renner, the former House speaker here

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Speaker 1: I note that he has not said that about your

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Speaker 1: of propaganda against you, mister Lieutenant Governor. He's saying that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Josh, one hundred percent. Let me just set this

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Speaker 5: So here's where I am in the First Amendment. I

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Speaker 5: Nobody is going to have a hurt feelings report. When

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Speaker 1: But before I let you go, mister Lieutenant Governor, what

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Speaker 5: Well, the thing I hear about the most is affordability,

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Speaker 5: whether it's properly insurance, property tax. I think that's part

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Speaker 5: of the equation. But y'all, here's what I want to

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Speaker 5: talk about. When we talk about affordability, I want to

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Speaker 5: talk about American greatness. I want to talk about Floridians greatness.

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Speaker 5: I want to talk about building more businesses, bringing in

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Speaker 5: higher paying jobs, and raising that bar by creating opportunity

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Speaker 5: through growth and adding to the wealth of this state

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Speaker 5: and people's pocketbooks. That is what we have to do.

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Speaker 5: Governor Santus has been relentless in that pursuit. I am

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Speaker 5: in the same vein the same mindset. I don't want

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Speaker 5: us to skimp and save to being okay. I want

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Speaker 5: us to lead and thrive, and I want everyone to

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Speaker 5: have that American dream right here in the Free State

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Speaker 5: of Florida.

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Speaker 2: Amen.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's see how it shakes out. But for what

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Speaker 1: it's worth, on personal level, mister Lieutenant Governor. I'm very

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Speaker 1: happy that you are in this race again.

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Speaker 4: Folks.

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Speaker 1: You can follow Ja Collins on x at Jcollins fl

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Speaker 1: check out his campaign website Jafflorida dot com. Mister Aeutenant

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Speaker 1: Governor Jay Collins, you are a patriot and a great Floridian.

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Speaker 1: Wishing the best of luck of my friend. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for stun by the Josh Hammer Show yet again.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Josh God bless.

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Speaker 1: God bless you too, and thank you as always for

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Speaker 1: watching our interviews here on the Josh Hammers Show. Make

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Speaker 1: sure to keep an eye on this guy. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you I know him personally. He is definitely something that

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Speaker 1: you want to keep your eye on, whether or not

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Speaker 1: his campaign is successful or not.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us through the commercial break, folks, we'll be

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Speaker 2: right back to the other side. Welcome back. Well.

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Speaker 1: All eyes, many ways still are on the state of Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: a state that continues to find itself in the national limelight, frankly,

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Speaker 1: for all the wrong reasons. I do not know what

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Speaker 1: is in the tap water in the Land of ten

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Speaker 1: Thousand Lakes, but frankly, it cannot be anything good. Whether

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Speaker 1: it was the George Floyd riots that began right there

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Speaker 1: in Tim Watz's backyard in twenty twenty, whether it was

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Speaker 1: the Smali fraud scandal that continues to play out in

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Speaker 1: real time, whether it is the current anti ICE anarchy

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Speaker 1: following the justified self defense shooting death by the ICE

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Speaker 1: agent Jonathan Ross of Renee Good, the anarchistic insurrectionists who

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Speaker 1: again we are sat in by the loss of life

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Speaker 1: on the show, This was indeed a justified act of

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Speaker 1: self defense, and there has been NonStop, NonStop raging, eluding

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Speaker 1: anarchy ever since then. Meanwhile, the political leadership Minnesota, I mean,

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Speaker 1: my god, I mean, how do these bums hold off us?

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Speaker 1: I mean tampon Tim Walls What an utter buffoon, you know,

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Speaker 1: recently announcing that he's not running for reelection, not seeking

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Speaker 1: another term there in the governor's mansion.

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Speaker 2: Good freaking riddance.

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Speaker 1: I continued to want to know what did Kamala Harris's

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Speaker 1: vetting team know and when did they know it? When

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Speaker 1: it comes to Tim Walsh's utter complicity, his willingness, his

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Speaker 1: eagerness to look the other way when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the Smallly fraud scandal right there in his own Minneapolis backyard.

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Speaker 1: Around the same time that Joshapiro Pennsylvania was getting asked

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Speaker 1: if he was an Israeli agent. For God's sake, they

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Speaker 1: didn't seem to have many interesting probing questions for Tim

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Speaker 1: walls over A Minnesota. It's not just Tim Walson, it's

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Speaker 1: the other left, the official class as well, Keith Ellison,

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General, Jacob Fry, the Mayor of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe this clip. Actually, so Don Lemon.

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon, who was one of the leading orchestrators of

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Speaker 1: this outrageous, this outrageous intrusion, this act of trespassing in

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Speaker 1: a church, the city's church in Saint Paul, Minnesota, this

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Speaker 1: this past Sunday, allegedly because they thought that there was

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Speaker 1: some ice connection to someone, a congregant, a minister there

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Speaker 1: and and they barge in there. So on the Don

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Speaker 1: Lemon Show, which I guess he's hosting, that he's been

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Speaker 1: fired from CNN due to his allegedly horrific behavior, even

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Speaker 1: you know how, the Attorney General Minnesota, Keith Ellison, who

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Speaker 1: has a long and sorted history of being far too

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Speaker 1: cozy with care the Hamas Tide Council of Americans long

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Speaker 1: relations Keith Ellison went on the Don Lemon Show.

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Speaker 2: And boy did he have a doozy.

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Speaker 1: He seemed to be outright defending this putative law enforcement

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Speaker 1: officer allegedly seemingly defending defending this active trespass on the

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon Show.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and watch this one.

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Speaker 4: The protest is fundamental through American This country started in

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Speaker 4: a protest, and you know, it's freedom of expression. People

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Speaker 4: have a right to lift up their voices and make

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Speaker 4: their peace, and none of us are immune from the voice.

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Speaker 7: Of the of the public. So I quite honestly, I

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Speaker 7: think that you got the First Amendment freedom of religion

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Speaker 7: and the freedom of a First Amendment freedom of expression,

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Speaker 7: and uh, I think that you know, it's just I

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Speaker 7: think it's just something to live within a society, all right.

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Speaker 1: First of all, not to be a jerk, but kind

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Speaker 1: of to be a jerk. Don Lemon wearing a hoodie, bro,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know how the mighty have fallen? You know,

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon, former Primetime see and anchor booed off in

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Speaker 1: network and now he's hosting this show on a hoodie

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Speaker 1: with Attorney General. We're in the beating the car, very

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Speaker 1: very very weird stuff. Most importantly, though, what what is

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Speaker 1: he saying, you have a law enforcement officer, the attorney general,

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Speaker 1: the top law enforcement officer in the state of Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: who is justifying it is putting on equal First Amendment

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Speaker 1: footing the right to freemon of worship that was the

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Speaker 1: parishioners there in the church, to the right to free

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Speaker 1: speech of the trespassers, the intruders.

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Speaker 2: Bro did you even go to law school? I mean,

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Speaker 2: do you know how any of this works.

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Speaker 1: You have a first women right to speak your mind

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Speaker 1: from a sidewalk, from a town square, from public property,

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Speaker 1: and even then, actually there are always limits there. We're

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Speaker 1: not getting into the weeds too much there, but you

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Speaker 1: can't say literally anything. But you have very very very

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Speaker 1: very broad leeway to say what you want from government property.

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Speaker 1: But the notion you can barge in to a private

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Speaker 1: institution and say whatever the heck you want and the

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Speaker 1: first men protects that.

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Speaker 2: That is nuts.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: This reminds me of this literally reminds me of a

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Speaker 1: smart alec child who's been banished to his room. He's

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Speaker 1: being punished, grounded by his parents for doing X Y

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Speaker 1: Z thing. Maybe he misses curfew, maybe he refused as

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Speaker 1: Brocoli doesn't matter, so the kid is sent to his bedroom,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he's feeling so smart.

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Speaker 2: He says to his parents, but the First Amendment free speech.

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Speaker 2: I can say what I want. Let can do what

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Speaker 2: I want.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, you can't. You know why because you live

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Speaker 1: in your parents' home. So too, these trespassers invaded the

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Speaker 1: home of the pastor the minister of the city's church

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Speaker 1: of Saint Paul, Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: That's private property.

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Speaker 1: That's what the foundations of American liberty, of the Anglo

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Speaker 1: American legal and political a tradition, more generally, private property

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Speaker 1: is indispensable to us. They're trespassers. They have no first

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Speaker 1: man right, I literally, I mean, did this guy go

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Speaker 1: to law school? I mean, it's just incredible stuff. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Jacob fry the totally addle brains mayor of Minneapolis, who

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Speaker 1: has struggled, who has struggled to articulate clearly whether or

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Speaker 1: not he thinks that ICE should actually be abolished or not. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Frye was on News Nation reiterating that in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: guess what, they're not going to cooperate with ICE.

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Speaker 2: Let's watch that one.

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Speaker 5: You don't believe that the federal government is right that

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Speaker 5: the state of Minnesota, of course.

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Speaker 2: Through the governor's office, refuses to.

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Speaker 5: Give them access to the jails and prisons to collect

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Speaker 5: people that they say are.

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Speaker 8: Criminal and not supposed to be in the country. I

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Speaker 8: won't speak for the state. I will let them speak

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Speaker 8: for themselves, but certainly that is what they have related

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Speaker 8: in Minneapolis. We will not cooperate with ICE or any

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Speaker 8: federal agency around immigration enforcement work. We will not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we've explained the show before that this is

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Speaker 1: neo Confederate sentiment. If you take his statement there and

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Speaker 1: you put on a big thick Southern drawl, this notion

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Speaker 1: of we the states, we in this municipality, we are

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Speaker 1: not going to cooperate with the darm Feds.

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Speaker 2: The Feds are not going to get in here. That

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Speaker 2: is Stonewall.

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Speaker 1: Jackson, that is Jeffish Davis, that is John C. Calhoun

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Speaker 1: style nullification all over again. And frankly, I find it

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Speaker 1: not the least bit surprising that it was the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, that was saying all that pablum back

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Speaker 1: in the mid nineteenth century, leading us to the brink

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Speaker 1: and indeed outright into the Civil Wars. Democrats back then,

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Speaker 1: and you guessed it is the Democrats today. They once

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Speaker 1: opposed federal law enforcement authority and they continue to oppose

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Speaker 1: federal law enforcement authority. Look, I've been calling for the

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Speaker 1: trumpministration for a long time to defund all federal funding

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Speaker 1: to every single not just sanctuary jurisdiction, but every single

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Speaker 1: jurisdiction that refuses to actively to actively enlist local and

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Speaker 1: statewide law enforcement to indeed assist ice when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the immigration efforts. You can indeed defund states and

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Speaker 1: municipalities when it comes to law enforcement purposes. And the

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Speaker 1: DOJ gives a lot of block rents to local police

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Speaker 1: departments there.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Under a nineteen eighty seven Preme Court case called set

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Speaker 1: the Coda versus Dole, there is pretty broad leeway for

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Speaker 1: the Feds to tie to condition federal funding to the

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Speaker 1: states on the states actively cooperating with the Feds on

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Speaker 1: a policy implementation, as long as there's a direct nexus,

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Speaker 1: a direct connection between the policy and the funding. Well,

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Speaker 1: here that would be the case. You would withhold funding

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Speaker 1: for police on the condition that the police help you

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Speaker 1: with immigration. Makes total sense. I'm not sure why the

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Speaker 1: DOJ hasn't already done this. What the DOJ has been

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Speaker 1: doing as of this morning on Thursday, January twenty second,

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Speaker 1: is they have been executing some arrests. Finally, thank goodness,

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Speaker 1: Pambondi putting on her x feed earlier today that they

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Speaker 1: executed an arrest warrant in Minnesota. The very first rest

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Speaker 1: warrant was Nikima Levy Armstrong, who is a lawyer, ironically

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Speaker 1: a civil rights lawyer that's dripping with irony, who allegedly

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Speaker 1: played a key role in organizing the corny attack on

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Speaker 1: the city's church in Saint Paul, Minnesota. And then surely

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Speaker 1: thereafter Pambondi following up. At least one more arrest has

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Speaker 1: been made as well. Chantal Louisa Allen has been taken

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Speaker 1: into custody. These folks need to be prosecuted under either

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Speaker 1: the Face Acts, which is the nineteen nineties era statute

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Speaker 1: when it comes to prohibiting the disruption of houses of worship,

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Speaker 1: trying to actively prevent people from praying.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: They are Democrats under Joe Biden Merrick Garland weaponize this

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Speaker 1: law against pro lifers and abortion clinics. Surely it should

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Speaker 1: be used for its actual purpose. This fits this fits

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Speaker 1: that description very much to a t They can also

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Speaker 1: be prosecuted under the Ku Klux Klan Act, which is

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Speaker 1: a Reconstruction era statue when it comes to a conspiracy

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Speaker 1: to deprive one another of federal constitutional rights. That is

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Speaker 1: Section nineteen eighty three, as lawyers call it. Is also

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Speaker 1: eighteen US Code Section two forty one, another statue when

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Speaker 1: it comes to a general conspiracy to deprive you of

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Speaker 1: civil or constitutional rights. Either way, the law must be enforced.

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Speaker 1: It must be enforced with neither neither favor nor fear

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Speaker 1: have be enforced neutrally, and here that means bringing down

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Speaker 1: the hammer, bringing down the hammer pun intended, maybe bringing

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Speaker 1: down the hammer on these mini anarchist and insurrectionist in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Good work thus far from Pam Bondy. I want to

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Speaker 1: see a lot more, frankly where this came from.

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Speaker 8: There.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to hopefully see more in the days ahead.

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Speaker 1: So I've had a heck of a week. I explained

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Speaker 1: this a little bit on yesterday's show. I was in

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Speaker 1: New York for a conference last Sunday, flight mass week delayed,

656
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Speaker 1: went back to Florida, where I live for essentially barely

657
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Speaker 1: over twelve hours. Then who all the way out to

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Speaker 1: the west coast out Los Angeles. Was there for one day,

659
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Speaker 1: took a Redie flight back and now here we are

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Speaker 1: back in the Free state of Florida. And when I

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Speaker 1: was out in California, I was there for a lunch event,

662
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Speaker 1: but it also stopped by our colleague at Salem Media

663
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Speaker 1: at the Sale News Channel, Larry Elder the Great Stage

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Speaker 1: of South Central, as Larry is known. And it's supposed

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Speaker 1: feeling in just a couple of segments there with Larry,

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Speaker 1: but we were really having a really wonderful conversation. So

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Speaker 1: he can't be on essentially for the entire final hour

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Speaker 1: of his program earlier this week on Tuesday. And you know,

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Speaker 1: as is typical when he these sorts of things, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of small chat chit chat between the breaks

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Speaker 1: off MIC, and I don't think it's betraying any confidences

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Speaker 1: to tell you that. At some point Larry just asked

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Speaker 1: me some very bass questions, you know, you know, wife, kids,

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Speaker 1: you know, tell me a little bit about your personal life.

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Speaker 1: And I said, I'm married. We have a baby. She's

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Speaker 1: thirteen months old. Now I'm not sure if that's a

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Speaker 1: baby or toddler or whatever it is. Come that awkward

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Speaker 1: transition period. She's basically about to take her first steps

679
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Speaker 1: any day now. It's actually very exciting. And then Larry said,

680
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Speaker 1: what does your wife do? And without thinking, without thinking,

681
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Speaker 1: I just said she's just to stay.

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Speaker 2: At home mom. And Larry correctly, absolutely correctly pounced on me.

683
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Speaker 2: I'm beatable, you know, hyperbolic. You can't like pounce on me.

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Speaker 2: But he said, don't say that. Don't ever say she's

685
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Speaker 2: just to stay at home mom.

686
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Speaker 1: And he's totally right. I don't know why I said that.

687
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Speaker 1: It was kind of just what came out of my mouth.

688
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Speaker 1: That's not how I think of it. And he's totally

689
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Speaker 1: crapy because he went on to explain, as you probably

690
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Speaker 1: know if you watch this show day in and day out,

691
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Speaker 1: that this is the most important task, the most important

692
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Speaker 1: task a mother can possibly have. It certainly is it,

693
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Speaker 1: certainly is how I feel. It's definitely how Larry Elder feels.

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Speaker 1: He was telling me about how growing up, how much

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Speaker 1: he benefited and frankly, how much of what he is

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Speaker 1: who he is today. He attributes to the fact that

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Speaker 1: he had a stay at home mom at least through

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Speaker 1: his elementary school years. I had that too, You know

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Speaker 1: my mother was was not working while I was growing up.

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Speaker 1: She was working prior to that, essentially left the workforce.

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Speaker 1: She only returned to the workforce when I was oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: around sixth seventh grade, around there something almost lines. Went

703
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Speaker 1: to went back to school, got her master's education, came

704
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Speaker 1: in an elementary school teacher for over two decades. But

705
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Speaker 1: I had those formative years with a state at home

706
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Speaker 1: mom sort of Larry Elder, and I benefited immensely from that,

707
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Speaker 1: really immensely. Now this is longstane debate, isn't it. It's

708
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Speaker 1: a long staine debate as to what should a woman

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Speaker 1: prioritize when it comes to your career, when it comes.

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Speaker 2: To raising children.

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Speaker 1: There, well, none other than Michelle Obama was on the

712
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Speaker 1: hyper feminist call Her Daddy podcast, a loathsome podcast where

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Speaker 1: I talk about the most really just some of some

714
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: of some of the most cringe stuff imaginable and in fact,

715
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, when she was trying to be cool and

716
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: hip with the kids, went on the Caller Daddy podcast

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Speaker 1: just prior to the twenty twenty four election, and as

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Speaker 1: many people noted the episode, the Kamala Harris went on

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Speaker 1: the Caller Daddy Podcast. If you look at the episode list,

720
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Speaker 1: the episode literally before that the title the episode, presumably

721
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Speaker 1: the main topic of the conversation prior to Kama coming on,

722
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: was about a sex act, which I'm not going to

723
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Speaker 1: describe on this show, but you can use your imagination there.

724
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Speaker 1: So this is a low class trash podcast. Put them mildly.

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Speaker 8: So.

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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama went on the Caller Daddy podcast and his

727
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: interview is really making the rounds there and she had

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Speaker 1: some thoughts on the trade off between a woman pursuing

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Speaker 1: her career and prioritizing children.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and watch this.

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Speaker 6: Let's be more honest about the struggle. I'm trying. I

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Speaker 6: try to do that, you know, and I am constantly

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Speaker 6: telling young mothers like it's coming right, you don't have

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Speaker 6: to get off your career track. And I don't even

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Speaker 6: recommend it because kids grow up fast and then they're gone,

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Speaker 6: like you've sacrificed everything. And you know when they lead,

737
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Speaker 6: they lead, they close the door and act like you

738
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Speaker 6: never sacrifice. They're like, I remember you, I don't need

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00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 6: you anymore, right, So what I'm like, you better have

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Speaker 6: saved something for yourself so that when that period comes

741
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Speaker 6: and they're ready to move on, and you're also not

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Speaker 6: holding on longer because now what I'm gonna do. I

743
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Speaker 6: devoted everything to you.

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Speaker 1: We're to begin folks. This is horrific advice. This is

745
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: absolutely horrific, horrific life advice. You know, my wife got

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Speaker 1: her masters in real estate and urbanization the year that

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Speaker 1: we got married, in twenty twenty three. Then we had

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Speaker 1: our first kid twenty twenty four. She's not back to

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Speaker 1: work yet either.

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Speaker 2: And that first year.

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Speaker 1: Ofsing a young baby as the parents out there listening

752
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Speaker 1: and watching, no, it's quite challenging, and the overwhelming burden fall,

753
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Speaker 1: especially in those first few months with the breastfeed and

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Speaker 1: everything on the mother. And I remember multiple times my

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00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: wife kind of breaking down to me and saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is this is so much worth and so much work.

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00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: I need something else going on here. You know, maybe

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Speaker 1: I need a part time job. You know, look at you.

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Speaker 1: You have so much fun doing what we do for

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Speaker 1: a living, et cetera, et cetera. And I always responded

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Speaker 1: with the exact same thing, which is, honey, what I'm doing,

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Speaker 1: I would like to think is important when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the battle of ideas, when it comes to fighting

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Speaker 1: for the hard and soul of American culture and American

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Speaker 1: politics and law and all that. But what you were doing.

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Speaker 1: What you were doing is the most important job known

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Speaker 1: to mankind. There is nothing more important, nothing than a

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Speaker 1: mother raising her children.

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Speaker 2: Nothing. It indeed is a big part of who I

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Speaker 2: am today.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot about this quote from Abraham Lincoln,

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Speaker 1: my favorite figure in American history. Abraham Lincoln famously said

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Speaker 1: that all that he is, or ever will be, he

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Speaker 1: owes to his angel mother. I think with that quote

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Speaker 1: often because I more or less feel the same way.

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Speaker 1: Certainly a scene is based on a conversation out in

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Speaker 1: la earlier this week that Larry Elder feels the exact

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Speaker 1: same way as well. It is so crucial that a

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Speaker 1: mother be there in the foremen of years, And yes,

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Speaker 1: I will go further. It is indeed more important that

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Speaker 1: the mother be there compared to the father. The father

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Speaker 1: obviously has to be around. In fact, one of the

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Speaker 1: ways to think about marriage. One of the ways is

784
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Speaker 1: to think about why we have state subsidized states modst matter.

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Speaker 1: You know, why should the libertarians say, why should the

786
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Speaker 1: government get involved in promoting marriage?

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Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: It's a biological fact that every time there is a

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Speaker 1: baby born, there is a mother right there. That's biology.

790
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: It pops out of the birth canal marriage. One of

791
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Speaker 1: the ways to view it is an incentive structure to

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Speaker 1: ensure that it's not just women who are there and

793
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Speaker 1: the baby is born, but men as well. So obviously

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Speaker 1: men have a role to play. I am definitely definitely

795
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Speaker 1: not denying that. Certainly it's a Baptist by fire thing.

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Speaker 1: I made mistakes my first year as a father. There,

797
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Speaker 1: God willing will will correct those mistakes for the God

798
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Speaker 1: willing many children that we have to come. But it

799
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Speaker 1: is even more important than a day in day ou

800
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Speaker 1: basis for the bulk of the day, that really the

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Speaker 1: woman be there, even more so than the man. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that everyone who was raised by a stay

803
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Speaker 1: at home dad turns out poorly. My longtime friend Ben

804
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Speaker 1: Shapiro was raised by his father, David, in essentially quasi

805
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: stay at home dad fashion. Obviously Ben turned out quite good.

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Speaker 1: There's any number of examples, Okay, So I am not

807
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Speaker 1: saying I am definitely not saying that it can't work

808
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: that way, But just think about this through a natural

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Speaker 1: lens called the natural law view of human anthropology. The

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Speaker 1: mother physically births the child's there is a connection, a

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Speaker 1: psychological connection, something of a biological connection between that mother

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Speaker 1: and her children. That is, you can't replicate it. It's

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Speaker 1: one of the most amazing things about motherhood, one the

814
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Speaker 1: most amazing things about womanhood in general. And the abortionists

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Speaker 1: destroys the turnad's head. They say that to be a

816
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Speaker 1: good woman, you should kill your baby. Oh my god, No,

817
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Speaker 1: the most beautiful part of femininity in womanhood is this

818
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Speaker 1: connection between the mother and the baby. Is it's complete

819
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Speaker 1: opposite there. So, yes, if you are facing a trade

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Speaker 1: off between the career and stay at home, and if

821
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Speaker 1: you are reasonably able to do so. Everyone has their

822
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: own econom situation there, you should put a thumb on

823
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Speaker 1: the scale spending as much time at home as possible.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying ditch your career, but put a thumb

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Speaker 1: on the scale. You know, I have a friend from

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Speaker 1: law school, a brilliant, brilliant friend. My two friends law school.

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Speaker 1: This couple, they marry each other. I won't say their names.

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Speaker 1: Brilliant folks. They both clerked on the US Supreme Court.

829
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Speaker 1: My classmates, the girl. My friends won't say their name again,

830
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Speaker 1: clerks for two justices on this Uspreing Court. That is

831
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Speaker 1: really rare. I mean she's like next level smart, they

832
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Speaker 1: had their first kid, she's stay at home mommy. Okay,

833
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Speaker 1: So I mean I don't care how much education you have,

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Speaker 1: what your IQ is, what you've achieved there, This is

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Speaker 1: the most important.

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Speaker 2: It is the most important. I consider.

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Speaker 1: It's such a blessing that we are able to have

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Speaker 1: this arrangement where my wife does prioritize our baby and

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Speaker 1: God willing future babies to come. That's the way. If

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Speaker 1: you we're able to do it, that's how you should

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Speaker 1: do it. Michelle Obama, frankly, take this quoteunquote advice and

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00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: you can just go to hell. Hope you joy today's show, folks.

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Speaker 1: Hope you have a great rest of your evening. I'm

844
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Speaker 1: Josh Hammer.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow.