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Speaker 1: the Epicenter. This is a podcast where we talk about

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Speaker 3: Epicenter podcast. We're going to get back to more questions

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Speaker 1: From the absolute origins the Genesis one one moment, the

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Speaker 3: we did the same conference twice once solely in Arabic,

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Speaker 3: you know, for our Palestinian brothers and sisters, and then

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Speaker 3: on the other side in Arabic, in.

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Speaker 4: Hebrew, in Russian.

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Speaker 3: So in one way, you know, actually we don't do

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Speaker 3: things separately. We don't say, Okay, we're going to have

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Speaker 3: a conference for the Arab Israelis and we're going to

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Speaker 3: have a conference for the Messianic Israelis. We have them

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Speaker 3: all together in one place, and we do worship music

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Speaker 3: in Hebrew and worship music in Arabic, and we all

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Speaker 3: break bread together and sit around tables together and share

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Speaker 3: and get to know each other and pray together.

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Speaker 4: This is thanks in Heaven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody that I thought you were saying it was

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Speaker 1: separate Palestinian under the Palasin authority.

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Speaker 2: That's separate.

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Speaker 1: And so that's all in Arabic with Arabic worship, and

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Speaker 1: that is the Council of Evangelical Pastors and ministry leaders,

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Speaker 1: and we do it under their guidance and their supervision

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Speaker 1: for all these fifteen years or so that we've been

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Speaker 1: doing it.

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Speaker 2: On the Israel side.

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Speaker 1: Yes, then twenty percent of the Israeli actually twenty one

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Speaker 1: percent of the Israeli society are Arabs. Many of them

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Speaker 1: are Arab Muslims, but many are Arab Christians. And so

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Speaker 1: there are evangelical Arab Israeli citizens full rights as Arabs

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Speaker 1: in Israel. And so that's where we're saying, that's integrated.

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Speaker 1: That's not Arab Israelis in one conference and then Jewish

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Speaker 1: Israelis and another conference. That's the one that's integrated. And

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Speaker 1: the knights of Hebrew worship and the Knights of Arabic worship.

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Speaker 1: And it's so encouraging. And it was early on when

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Speaker 1: we did this lance because you were there, you know.

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Speaker 1: But for our our viewers and listeners, there were many,

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Speaker 1: There was not a small number that were uncomfortable. Not

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Speaker 1: theologically they knew this is a good idea theological, but practically,

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Speaker 1: you know. That first year we did it, there was

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Speaker 1: a missile war that erupted right while we were doing

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Speaker 1: the first retreat in Israel, and we were supposed to

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Speaker 1: head to the Palace in retreat, and people in the

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Speaker 1: Israel side were saying, do not go, are you insane?

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Speaker 1: Like that is a bad idea. And I literally got

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Speaker 1: a call from the head of the Palace Indian and

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Speaker 1: the Evangelical Council who said, please, if you really mean it,

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Speaker 1: if you really love us, and you're here to serve us,

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Speaker 1: this is the moment that you and your teaching team

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Speaker 1: Joel would come over and serve us and help us,

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of a rocket war. And I

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Speaker 1: got to tell you, Lance, that's as close to a

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Speaker 1: Macedonian call as I've ever personally encountered. And even with

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Speaker 1: some caution, we prayed, we fasted your call. In the end,

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Speaker 1: we sent I think two pastors forward for the first

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Speaker 1: night to see did they make it? I mean, and

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Speaker 1: this was their idea. I wanted to go myself, but

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Speaker 1: the rest of the team said, no, you're actually Jewish,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't go. But anyway, but it was so beautiful

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Speaker 1: and it didn't break a barrier, a psychological barrier that

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Speaker 1: the Palace in and Christians generally feel like people who

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Speaker 1: Christians in the West, who love Israel, they don't even

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Speaker 1: know we exist. They don't care, they don't come, they

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Speaker 1: don't visit, they don't break bread, they don't invest in us,

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Speaker 1: and it bothers us. It hurts us as though we're

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Speaker 1: invisible and we're living in the land of Jesus and

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Speaker 1: we know Jesus and most most Jews don't.

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Speaker 2: So why don't you love us? Why don't you care?

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Speaker 1: And that was a big test for us to not

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Speaker 1: just say that we cared for both, but to lean

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Speaker 1: into it and say yes to that brother who is

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Speaker 1: asking us come, come, if you're going to serve us.

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Speaker 1: War should not be the thing that cancels it unless

509
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Speaker 1: you know, you literally, you know, physically, can't get there right.

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Speaker 3: Showing up makes a difference and sitting down and having

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Speaker 3: a meal and having a coffee. And that's a lot

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Speaker 3: of what we do, not just in those conferences, but

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Speaker 3: all throughout the year. We have our staff, our meeting

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Speaker 3: with people, sitting with them, going.

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Speaker 2: To What's one of our jokes, Lynn, One.

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Speaker 3: Of our jokes is that the biggest line item on

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Speaker 3: the budget is coffee and baclava. Yeah, which is not true,

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Speaker 3: but we mean to say that. It's sitting with people.

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Speaker 3: It's drinking a lot of coffee, a lot of good

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Speaker 3: Turkish strong.

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Speaker 2: Coffee, and really listening, listening and learning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we share, we encourage, we invest, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of what we've done over these twenty years is learn

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Speaker 1: one because God is doing a lot in these brothers

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Speaker 1: and sisters anyway that we see them as heroes, we

526
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Speaker 1: want to learn from them. But we also as we listen,

527
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Speaker 1: we listen to her pain, to their questions, and we

528
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Speaker 1: get a a little bit clear sense of how could

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Speaker 1: we serve them that would truly be edifying.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so as we work towards closing this episode

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Speaker 5: and bringing our viewers and listeners inside that heartbeat that

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Speaker 5: both and not only within Israel of Jewish and Arab Palestinian,

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Speaker 5: but also Joe, just real quick, there's neighboring countries that

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Speaker 5: we serve in as well that we haven't mentioned yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just real quickly, We right from the beginning wanted

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Speaker 1: to help in other countries. I in the early years,

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Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have staff that knew how to

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Speaker 1: do that or dedicated to you that. I took some

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Speaker 1: of our staff into Iraq four times. We built the

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Speaker 1: first ever, by God's total mercies, built the first ever

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Speaker 1: legal Christian radio station in Iraq up in Northern Iraq

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Speaker 1: ninety seven point three on your FM dial. If you

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Speaker 1: happen to be in Northern Iraq beaming the gospel and preaching.

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Speaker 2: The word of God. It was just amazing.

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Speaker 1: But I'd never been to Iraq, and then God started

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Speaker 1: taking me and then to Egypt and to Jordan. In time,

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Speaker 1: God brought along not just a leader, but then a

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Speaker 1: team of people who are completely they're part of our world,

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Speaker 1: but they have different bank accounts and different emails and

550
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Speaker 1: different all their logistics are different, so that they don't

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Speaker 1: endanger our Arab brothers and sisters in those other countries

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Speaker 1: by them identifying with a Rosenberg or with the Joshua Fund.

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Speaker 1: And on the Israel side, so the Joshua Fund mandate

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Speaker 1: is to minister not just to Israel and to the Palestinians.

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Speaker 1: That's a both and rather than either or, but it's

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Speaker 1: also into Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, and then just

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Speaker 1: in the last year or so, the board voted unanimously

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Speaker 1: to extend the ministry footprint as it were, into Iran

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Speaker 1: because of the war, and because because God doesn't just

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Speaker 1: command us to love our neighbors, he commanded us to

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Speaker 1: love our enemies. And so this is a great blessing

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Speaker 1: to learn step by step how to.

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Speaker 3: And our first actual project was we were just talking

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Speaker 3: about this the other day with one of our staff

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Speaker 3: staff guys to remind him Our first ever project that

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Speaker 3: we did was actually not in Israel. Our first ever

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Speaker 3: project we ever did was in Lebanon during the during

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Speaker 3: the Lebanon War of two thousand and two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: I mean literally about three weeks after we started. I'll

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Speaker 1: probably have to end on this story, but yeah, we started.

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Speaker 1: We signed the paperwork, we formed the board. We're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: we're going to educate and mobilize Christians to bless Israel

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Speaker 1: and her neighbors in the name of Jesus, according to

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Speaker 1: the Abrahamic Covenant Genesis twelve one through three.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful, do we have any money in the bank? We

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Speaker 2: do not. Do we know what we're doing? We do not.

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Speaker 2: Have we ever done this before? No, we had a

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Speaker 2: little money.

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Speaker 3: We had that that money, but it was only for

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Speaker 3: translating the books, and that was a long process.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's true, that's true. That's a good point. With

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Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars, that's true.

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Speaker 1: And then about three weeks after we signed all the

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Speaker 1: paperwork and formed the organization opened the bank account, the

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Speaker 1: second Lebanon War broke out. Jsbllah fired four thousand ballistic

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Speaker 1: missiles at Israel. A million Israelis went underground or fled

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Speaker 1: to the south, away from the northern border, and we

588
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Speaker 1: were in the most intense missile war in the history

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Speaker 1: of Israel at that point, palsed by comparison to what

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Speaker 1: we've been over the last three years. But and we

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Speaker 1: were unprepared except that as God took me out on

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Speaker 1: radio and television to answer questions, and I had a

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Speaker 1: book that was just releasing, and the book Epicenter was

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Speaker 1: just about to release. Suddenly people started sending.

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Speaker 2: Checks to the po box.

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Speaker 1: And you know Lind's mom at the time, who was

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Speaker 1: a wonderful believer and she's with the Lord now, but

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Speaker 1: she would bring home trays boxes filled with checks. And

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Speaker 1: we said, you know what, let's make our first grant.

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Speaker 1: This was unanimous as the board and there was no staff.

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Speaker 1: So let's make the first grant to the ministry that

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Speaker 1: our mentor was running. Lebanon had a branch of that ministry.

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Speaker 1: Let's invest in what they're doing to bring humanitarian relief,

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Speaker 1: food but also Bibles and gospel materials into southern Lebanon

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Speaker 1: at this critical moment. And that you know, yes, we

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Speaker 1: believe in Romans one sixteen to the jew first, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but in this case, as a Jew, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: bless my Arab neighbors first and bless the church there.

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Speaker 1: And God has opened up. I mean, it's been crazy.

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Speaker 1: What has happened. He did tell us one hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars and we're like, okay, that's too crazy even.

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Speaker 2: To think about.

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Speaker 1: Twenty years in lance, God has brought in and we

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Speaker 1: as a team have been able to invest more than

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty million dollars in strengthen the church

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Speaker 1: and educating the church in Israel and the neighborhood. And

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Speaker 1: I I'm just in awe of a God who should

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Speaker 1: not have picked us, but in his humor is sent

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Speaker 1: humor decided to take two people who have never ran

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Speaker 1: a fund before and start the Joshua Fund.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for taking us inside the story a bit,

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Speaker 5: and I look forward to hearing more on the ground

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Speaker 5: stories in the episodes ahead of the specifics. Now that

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Speaker 5: we've talked about the foundation and the heart, to be

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Speaker 5: able to get into some of the stories of other

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Speaker 5: miraculous ways the Lord has moved and is moving today.

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Speaker 5: Because this isn't just about what happened over the last

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Speaker 5: twenty years. This is about what's happening now? And you

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Speaker 5: and Lynn Joel have such a unique perspective of how

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Speaker 5: the Lord is moving today as compared to twenty years ago,

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Speaker 5: not only in Israel, but the surrounding nations.

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Speaker 1: Lance, thanks so much for having this idea and guiding

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Speaker 1: us through it. I want to thank everybody for listening.

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Speaker 1: This is the beginnings of telling the origin stories. But also,

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Speaker 1: as Lance just said, how does it apply to now?

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Speaker 2: What is God doing? Now? We've learned a lot.

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Speaker 3: What's coming, what's coming, what's coming, and seeing for the

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Speaker 3: future too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so that's a great way to close, to say,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things that are coming. The Joshua Fun

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Speaker 1: Tour again, this started you heard that. This whole ministry

644
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Speaker 1: started with somebody us saying to somebody, Hey, a couple

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Speaker 1: a few couples, you want to just come and see,

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Speaker 1: and they said, yes, take us, And so we want

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Speaker 1: you to come and see. Come with us to Israel

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Speaker 1: March twenty ninth, twenty twenty seven through April ninth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty seven. And as part of that, your fair for

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Speaker 1: the tour includes the one day Epicenter Summit on April

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Speaker 1: seventh of next year, with the President of Israel, with

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Speaker 1: US Ambassador Mike Huckabee, with Pastor Greg Lourie, Pastor Skip Heights,

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Speaker 1: a pastor Jack Graham, and Graham Lots, one of the

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Speaker 1: great Bible teachers, and a dear friend. All these dear

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Speaker 1: friends of this ministry, I'll be speaking and there'll be

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Speaker 1: others too. So go to Joshua fund dot com. When

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Speaker 1: we say learn, pray, give, go, we want you to go.

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Speaker 1: We're an israel so we have to say we want

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Speaker 1: you to come. And so come to the website Joshua

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Speaker 1: fun dot com to learn all about it and make

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Speaker 1: sure you sign up and start saving now for next spring.

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Speaker 1: And I will also just mention that we would love

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Speaker 1: you to as you learn and pray to give, that

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Speaker 1: you could become an epicenter ally giving fifty dollars a

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Speaker 1: month or more, or if you can only do a

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Speaker 1: one time.

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Speaker 2: Gift, God bless you. We're so grateful.

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Speaker 1: We just want you to be a learner and a

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Speaker 1: prayer and a giver and a goer. And you can

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Speaker 1: go to Joshua fun dot com to learn all about it.

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Speaker 1: For all of us on the Joshua Fund board and

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Speaker 1: staff and the production team that does such an amazing

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Speaker 1: job to put this together. Thank you, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: listening and watching to this episode of Inside the Epicenter.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 4: Hello,