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Speaker 3: All right, one of the best times of the week.

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Speaker 1: Emma Joe Morris is here for what's become a weekly visit.

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Speaker 1: This is our intention is to connect once a week,

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Speaker 1: and we've been doing pretty good so far. Emma Joe

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Speaker 1: is of famed journalist and consultant. She also podcasts on

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Speaker 1: two Way, which is Mark Alprin's network and a good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine as well. We're from me at Breitbart

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Speaker 1: for several years after she broke the scoop of the

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Speaker 1: decade Laptop from Hell the New York Post, which was

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Speaker 1: quite a saga, which you've been over.

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Speaker 4: What is it still? I mean, it's not breaking the law.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, thank you. It's gonna they say.

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't think breaking a lot quite the same

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Speaker 1: reach as a Lapcot from hell Scoop. All right, so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do I'm tapping you again as my now

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Speaker 1: official New York correspondent because the experiments in communism and

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Speaker 1: Islamism with a smiley toilet bowl, right white smile in Zora, Mom,

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Speaker 1: Donnie is a It is in full flight and it's

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Speaker 1: going very poorly. But I had a couple of bees

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Speaker 1: in my bonnet and I just wanted to get your

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Speaker 1: take on this. I'm springing a couple of these on you,

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Speaker 1: Emma Joe. I did not watch the Oscars, but I

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Speaker 1: kept up with it, and there was I found them

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Speaker 1: to be very off.

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Speaker 3: I know you keep up with my daily show, but

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Speaker 3: just for people who've.

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Speaker 1: Not heard my Oscar recap, I thought it was very

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Speaker 1: strange the way they chose to do the awards. They

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Speaker 1: give a lot of the awards to one battle after another,

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Speaker 1: which I've not seen, but a lot of Paul Thomas

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just woke pandering where you've you know,

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Speaker 1: mixed race, Antifa freeing a bunch of people from an

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Speaker 1: ice facility, and that's just just the whole movie, and

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Speaker 1: that won all the awards, and the awards that didn't

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Speaker 1: win were won by Sinners, which I loved Sinners, but

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Speaker 1: there was certainly an era of maybe it was overrepresented

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Speaker 1: at the awards because of perceived I guess DEI Stuff,

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Speaker 1: which I think is a great movie, and I think,

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Speaker 1: as I stated on the show, I think it does

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Speaker 1: an incredible job of portraying the horrors of the Democrat

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Speaker 1: run Deep South under Jim Crow. But people just see

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Speaker 1: black people defeating white people, I guess, and they just

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Speaker 3: So one of the things that happened was Michael B.

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Speaker 1: Jordan one Best Actor and then he did something that

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Speaker 1: Best Actor Winners for Sinners. He plays two characters in it.

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Speaker 1: He's good. It's like, I didn't know if he was

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of acting in it, but he's good. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: It's fine. It's I highly doubt it was the best

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Speaker 3: But then this happened.

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Speaker 1: So after the Oscars, this was the scene at a

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Speaker 1: more scenes of him like signing in and out hats

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Speaker 3: Now I want to be a man of the people.

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Speaker 3: After wing an Oscar.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy who was in The Wire twenty

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Speaker 3: He was in The Black Panther.

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Speaker 1: He wins his award and then they have to do

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Speaker 1: this fake man of the people populism where you get

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Speaker 1: all the cameras out and he takes the award inside

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Speaker 1: who takes their award side of the burger joint? It's

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Speaker 1: The influencer industrial complex has got to end. And are

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Speaker 4: Well that's the thing is, like we're in this time

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Speaker 1: Clavicular this is the the Chad bro streamer who does

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Speaker 4: The audience to look into that. We can't. We don't

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Speaker 4: So you know, you've basically decided that the system is broken,

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Speaker 1: It's such a great point, and it's beyond narcissism where

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Speaker 4: Awards, it's post narcissism.

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Speaker 1: Well, we talked about is a little bit in the

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Speaker 4: winning that award, and the first thing you think to

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Speaker 3: Being in the moment of people.

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Speaker 4: I saw so many people here.

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Speaker 1: I saw smart people in my feed saying this is

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Speaker 3: That's what this is.

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Speaker 5: But it's just the thought that I don't know. I

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Speaker 5: but I feel like you have an achievement and it's

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Speaker 5: go to any day, like I was. I flew them

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Speaker 1: It was the there was no streaming. I may have

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Speaker 4: Was okay, okay, Boomer, I have an old buddy.

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Speaker 1: That I just ate the burger instead of just making

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Speaker 1: sure that my whole social team and my bouncers were

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Speaker 1: And then I was a couple of scorecards, say when

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Speaker 3: are we doing? This is just completely insane? But is

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Speaker 1: It's just eventually we're all just gonna stream and there'll

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Speaker 3: Is that where this is all heading?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean apparently according to like Elon Musk and

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Speaker 3: But the singularity where we were one with the machines.

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Speaker 4: This is what exactly this is. Everything will be the stream.

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Speaker 1: exactly real life. Social media is real life, and real

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Speaker 3: And this was just dark to me.

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Speaker 1: Just you won the award 'or on top of the award,

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Speaker 1: don't celebrate with friends and family, don't even do like

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Speaker 1: a quick photo shoot. You're going to dedicate a whole

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Speaker 1: activity where you go in the burger joint, the stage photo.

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Speaker 1: While I thought it was very crazy to me, and

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Speaker 1: not going back in the tube here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's for sure. I mean it's it's also though,

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Speaker 4: by somebody called Clavicular when we are discussing it has

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Speaker 6: if I meet any kind of joke that they would

438
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Speaker 6: they become very angry with me, you know.

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Speaker 8: I Well, so I don't want to tell you how

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Speaker 8: to live your life, but I couldn't live that way.

441
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Speaker 8: I would whatever household or ever situation I'm in, I

442
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Speaker 8: say what I truly think, and if it makes you angry.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, we'll have to work that out.

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Speaker 8: Well, it makes sense, but I am not going to

445
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Speaker 8: tuck my tail between my life and just shut the

446
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Speaker 8: fuck up. This is what you were dealing with when

447
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Speaker 8: you were a child. Just sit there and don't say anything.

448
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Speaker 3: Sit on your hands. But what happened to rob Ryder?

449
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Speaker 3: More of that?

450
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Speaker 4: Jerry?

451
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Speaker 3: More of that?

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, where's rob Ryder's ghost when you need him to

454
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Speaker 8: be telling you?

455
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Speaker 4: More of that? Yeah?

456
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Speaker 3: I uh, I let it run out because there's a

457
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Speaker 3: lot of a lot of stuff to unpack that you first.

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Speaker 4: Just first of all, the Bill mar joke that ends

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Speaker 4: with Rob Ryner who literally got killed by his kid.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he meant that, but that was the

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Speaker 4: first thing I thought of in this context, and I

462
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Speaker 4: think had.

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Speaker 1: A buzz on at that point in the conversation just

464
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Speaker 1: to get stoned.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, that's that's the craziest, most pathetic thing. It's like,

466
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Speaker 4: is that even a person and I just watch a

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Speaker 4: human being on this.

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Speaker 1: Zoy maxing that was his daughters.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, I'm acxaing. That's something I guess, like

470
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Speaker 4: is that I don't know, I mean, it makes you

471
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Speaker 4: think is that what homes of democrats are like. So,

472
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Speaker 4: what's pathetic environment where everyone's afraid of the kid?

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Speaker 1: I can't believe he shared this, and I'm happy he did,

474
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Speaker 1: but the because it makes everyone look so bad, it

475
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Speaker 1: makes his it makes him look so weak, and it.

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Speaker 4: Makes him look the worse. Yeah, that's the most embarrassing

477
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Speaker 4: story I've ever heard. I can't believe he told it

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Speaker 4: in public, let alone broadcasted it.

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Speaker 3: But let's take a let's take it at face value

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Speaker 3: for a second.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's fun, kind of dunk on the

482
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Speaker 1: Hollywood soy boy, but it's the what's what's actually really

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Speaker 1: interesting here is that this is a person who is

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Speaker 1: probably I'm guessing not left of center by this conversation,

485
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Speaker 1: but certainly not right of center at all, or probably

486
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Speaker 1: completely opting out of the American political dialogue and basic civics.

487
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Speaker 1: But he's in deep fear of the left wing women

488
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Speaker 1: in his house that they will become physically violent of

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Speaker 1: him if he expresses anything other than not just in

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Speaker 1: agreement with left wing values. But he's to meet them

491
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Speaker 1: emotionally at the same emotional intensity or he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: beat up. I find that to be probably totally honest, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, first of all, like even if like

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe I've had some you know, as a

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Speaker 4: teenager and you're a girl, and like maybe you're sort

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Speaker 4: of like you know, crazy and certain years of your

497
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Speaker 4: life or whatever, I just can't like if I would, like,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's not even how does a father allow

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Speaker 4: his daughter to have like an attitude, let alone beat

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Speaker 4: his ass? Like this story like doesn't even make sense,

501
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Speaker 4: Like it doesn't like forget the politics and the girl

502
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Speaker 4: like you can have like crazy girls at home, like fine,

503
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Speaker 4: but like I don't understand I don't understand the parent

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Speaker 4: child like dynamic. First of all, Yeah, secondly, scared of

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Speaker 4: his daughter and he's scared of saying something in front

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Speaker 4: of his daughter. Second of all, I mean, yeah, you know, listen,

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Speaker 4: the left wing women in this country, there's something to

508
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Speaker 4: be studied, and I don't know how to talk about

509
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Speaker 4: it without without getting fired from everywhere that I work.

510
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Speaker 4: And now it's like multiple places. I'm just gonna get

511
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Speaker 4: like a blanket firing.

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Speaker 1: You get what email from with a bunch of people

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Speaker 1: see seed.

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Speaker 4: Er Andrew Beck is the main thing. And then like

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Speaker 4: you know, Mark halpern c S. The Council has decided

516
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Speaker 4: that Emma can't talk about birth control and SSRIs anymore

517
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Speaker 4: and can't work for us anymore. But you know, I'm

518
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Speaker 4: trying to dance around what I mean, which is I

519
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Speaker 4: think that there is something obviously spiritually let's say, spiritually

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Speaker 4: sick in left wing culture among women. This resentment has

521
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Speaker 4: been brewing for a long time, uh, and it has

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Speaker 4: expressed itself in numerous ways, I think, beginning with the

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Speaker 4: Women's March in twenty seventeen, and there is like this

524
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Speaker 4: undercurrent of murderous rage almost between women. And to be

525
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Speaker 4: honest with you, I don't know those people. So it's

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Speaker 4: hard for me to opine other than as an observer

527
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 4: just like you, and to make up my theories, and

528
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Speaker 4: like an observer, just like anyone, I don't have anything

529
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Speaker 4: of value to add other than there's clearly, you know,

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Speaker 4: speaking of Mark Halper, and he predicted this preciently on

531
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Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson's podcast when he went on right before the election,

532
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Speaker 4: where he said that he thinks the third election of

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump will be a mental health crisis. And I

534
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 4: think that that is what we're seeing. But I think

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Speaker 4: what is the worst, perhaps the worst fuel for this

536
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Speaker 4: is all of these men who don't draw boundaries in

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Speaker 4: these social interactions, Like nobody is telling these peoples most

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Speaker 4: of the time they're women. Let's say, sometimes they're not.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen in Minnesota that there are instances

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Speaker 4: where they're not but telling these people, hey, like, you know,

541
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to engage with you on this level.

542
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Speaker 4: And I think that that's probably the first step. I

543
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Speaker 4: believe that things are always solved on the individual level.

544
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Speaker 4: You don't have macro solutions to cultural things that are

545
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Speaker 4: as effective as just everyone basically deciding individually that they're

546
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Speaker 4: not going to do this anymore. I think that we

547
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Speaker 4: learned that pretty well during the trans hysteria. It was

548
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Speaker 4: only when on a smaller level people just stopped participating

549
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Speaker 4: and just got frustrated with it that there was no

550
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Speaker 4: attraction left. That's my take. It's like this guy's an enabler.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that is the point to be made,

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Speaker 1: is that we cannot allow for this and it's incumbent

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Speaker 1: on meals. If you're in this situation, and I hope

555
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Speaker 1: you're not, but I'm sure some people in the audience

556
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Speaker 1: are that it's the The fact of the matter is

557
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Speaker 1: that you get to stand up to the people in

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Speaker 1: your household, women or otherwise. It's just and just say

559
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Speaker 1: that there needs to be mutual respect shared. There cannot

560
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: be emotional babying coddling for adults. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: how the children are. They certainly don't look like they're

562
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Speaker 1: young children. And that a lot of people a lot

563
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Speaker 1: of different viewpoints in this country, and the country is

564
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Speaker 1: a lot better off when we could communicate with each other.

565
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Speaker 1: And that was kind of interesting that I'm watching the

566
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Speaker 1: Trump administration really try to reach out to various groups

567
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Speaker 1: and individuals and people in industries that have been hostile

568
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Speaker 1: and try to have a clean slate, a fresh slate

569
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Speaker 1: for them. And I'm seeing a lot of acceptance. But

570
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Speaker 1: still the media establishment, the entertainment establishment, continues to be

571
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Speaker 1: just as hostile as ever, if not more hostile, based

572
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Speaker 1: off of the content they're putting out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know, like the left

574
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Speaker 4: like that's a thing, you know. I mean, it gets

575
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Speaker 4: a bit to where there some of the stuff that

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Speaker 4: I was suggesting for this episode that's going on that

577
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Speaker 4: I'm seeing going on in New York, Like, the left

578
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be interested in politics, right, it's it's

579
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Speaker 4: only interested in in harassing and steamrolling and out maneuvering

580
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Speaker 4: for for pure like like like in a pure power game,

581
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Speaker 4: not in any in any sincere way, Like is this

582
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Speaker 4: daughter trying to have a conversation about politics or is

583
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Speaker 4: she just trying to to force her father to submit

584
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Speaker 4: to her will exactly, And there's no persuasion, like this

585
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Speaker 4: is a more of an emotional exercise on a political exer.

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Speaker 1: It's emotional blackmail. There's no persuasion, there's no argumentation. And

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Speaker 1: I think that has what's given rise to a lot

588
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Speaker 1: of the sort of manisphere content is just an overreaction,

589
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Speaker 1: which I understand. I think that, you know, I don't

590
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Speaker 1: like it any the anti semitism stuff, and I don't

591
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Speaker 1: like the treating women as second class it is and stuff,

592
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Speaker 1: But I that's just me. But I understand where it

593
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Speaker 1: comes from. I think it comes from a lot of

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Speaker 1: it is a huge overreaction to the feminization of huge

595
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Speaker 1: areas of our society that has just been not it's

596
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Speaker 1: not biological, it's not helpful. I don't think women like

597
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: it either. I think for the most part is just

598
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: the left wing online activist left control steals too much

599
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Speaker 1: of our culture, and the pendulum's got to pull back.

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Speaker 1: But I thought this was a pretty important example that

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Speaker 1: revealed a lot and a short clip. I'm gonna go

602
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Speaker 1: fout a war to you that I want to talk

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Speaker 1: to him, Donnie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well just yeah, thank you. Just one thing on

605
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Speaker 4: that is, like the thing about cultural zeitgeist is it

606
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Speaker 4: requires everybody simultaneously to forfeit their agency, you know, like

607
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: the feminization of the culture does, like you know, is

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Speaker 4: a cultural force that comes from like institutional pressure and

609
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and like the organized left. But it

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Speaker 4: takes every individual father, like we just heard, to allow

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Speaker 4: their daughter to go ape shit on them like that.

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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden you see a trend,

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Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you see the backlash,

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Speaker 4: and you see the andrew Tates rising up and the

615
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Speaker 4: clavicular is rising up and whatever. But I, you know,

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Speaker 4: I really think that it's important to emphasize that these

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00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: things happen on individual levels, and they stop on individual levels,

618
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Speaker 4: and the andrew Tates like, like that shouldn't we shouldn't

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Speaker 4: have to get there. It's like I mean, I don't know, like,

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Speaker 4: I don't think, like, how do you like the father

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Speaker 4: was the one submitting to the pressure that allowed his

622
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Speaker 4: daughter to do that. I just can't get over that

623
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Speaker 4: dynamic because when I was growing up, I would have

624
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Speaker 4: been so so screwed if I would talk to my

625
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Speaker 4: dad that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: I was not like I could like I would never

628
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: and like you know, it's that structure and those boundaries

629
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Speaker 4: that have been allowed to be demolished by each individual

630
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Speaker 4: in this scenario. It's not like the cultural left can

631
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Speaker 4: only be responsible for so much.

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Speaker 1: Totally agree, and this is definitely one I want to

633
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Speaker 1: explore down the road because I've got a lot of

634
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Speaker 1: thoughts on him, but I don't want to I don't

635
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Speaker 1: want to dwell on this too long lest we have

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Speaker 1: enough time to talk about the social experiment that you're

637
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Speaker 1: living through right now, which is in New York City.

638
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Speaker 1: So last time we talked him last week, we were

639
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Speaker 1: talking about I think, a pretty good discussion and you

640
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Speaker 1: guys are not that far down your feed. You can

641
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Speaker 1: go scroll through my podcast feed. We did a lot

642
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: of discussion of Mam Donnie's Ramadan in Gracie Manor where

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Speaker 1: Gracie mansion, what is that one or the other?

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is, you know, where the mayor lifts in

645
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Speaker 3: New York and easing off the floor.

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Speaker 1: And he has a Mohammed Khalil there who we all

647
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Speaker 1: wanted to deport for agitating. And he's there, and obviously

648
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Speaker 1: he's making a political move, using his faith to just

649
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Speaker 1: try to score political points, and he keeps backtracking on

650
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Speaker 1: all sorts of different promises in subtle ways. We just

651
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Speaker 1: saw a report the last couple of days that median

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Speaker 1: rent in Manhattan has now hit five thousand dollars a

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Speaker 1: month for the first time. Median the average rent five

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Speaker 1: thousand a month. Unbelievable. That is just mind blowing stuff.

655
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Speaker 1: It would have been unthinkable very short time ago. And

656
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Speaker 1: now we're seeing Emma a proposal for a massive wealth

657
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Speaker 1: tax and estate tax on New Yorkers.

658
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Speaker 3: Break this one down for us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is so I mean, he's had such a

660
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Speaker 4: bad week. It's crazy between him and his wife too,

661
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Speaker 4: and I think we should touch on all of it.

662
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: There's like physical craphouts and then there's cultural crashouts that

663
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Speaker 4: are happening at the same time, and I don't know

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Speaker 4: which one makes me angrier. But yeah, So the new proposal,

665
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Speaker 4: as we've been chronicling on this show, he has a

666
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Speaker 4: budget deficit. He has a gap in the budget, and

667
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: he needs to find five billion dollars and he is

668
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Speaker 4: trying to find it in any which way he can.

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Speaker 4: At first, it was, you know, that he's going to

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Speaker 4: do a property tax. Then it was that he's going

671
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Speaker 4: to tax or charge for parking spots, and then like

672
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 4: he's had like all of these kind of zany things

673
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: that he's floated and they've kind of floated away for

674
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Speaker 4: various reasons. And so the latest one that he has

675
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Speaker 4: now is that he wants to tax death tax fifty percent,

676
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Speaker 4: starting at seven hundreds so for and this would kick

677
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Speaker 4: in at seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of property.

678
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Speaker 4: To kind of put that into perspective, because I understand that,

679
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 4: you know, seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars means different

680
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: things in different parts of the country, but that here

681
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: is like not middle class, but like lower middle class.

682
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Speaker 4: Actually having one million dollar property in New York is

683
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Speaker 4: like it's like a small house, like a very small house.

684
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Speaker 4: Seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars is like a small

685
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Speaker 4: place in Staten Island. I don't even know where you

686
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Speaker 4: live in Manhattan that's seven fifty unless it's a studio condo,

687
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Speaker 4: like a condo that's a studio apartment. So this is

688
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 4: what he's doing to try to find five billion dollars

689
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Speaker 4: in the meantime. I mean, first of all, aside from

690
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Speaker 4: the fact that we've gone from eat the rich to

691
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Speaker 4: eat the middle class in the meantime, Kathy Hochel, I mean,

692
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Speaker 4: I think is sounding an alarm in a way that

693
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Speaker 4: is maybe trying to sound cool, but is actually sounding

694
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Speaker 4: totally desperate. She's at Politico New York, did a conference

695
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Speaker 4: where she's talking about how it's a patriotic duty for

696
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Speaker 4: America for New Yorkers who have left New York due

697
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Speaker 4: to the regressive tax rates to come back to do

698
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 4: some sort of like this as some sort of act

699
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Speaker 4: of charity, which is again like this is this is

700
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Speaker 4: the exact scenario. This was the doomsday scenario that was

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Speaker 4: predicted when came in.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at I'm looking at redfin right now. By

703
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Speaker 1: the way, here's the type of stuff you can get

704
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Speaker 1: for seven hundred and fifty ish in New York, right now,

705
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Speaker 1: so I'm redfin seven hundred and fifty, get you twelve

706
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Speaker 1: hundred square feet in Staten Island. Here's one eight hundred

707
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Speaker 1: sixty eight square feet in South Ozone Park.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that is. You tell me where that is.

709
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Speaker 3: Eight seventy five.

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Speaker 1: You're up to nine hundred and seventeen square feet in

711
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Speaker 1: Sunny Sunnyside for here's a thousand square feet and this

712
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Speaker 1: really looks like a trailer in Staten Island.

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Speaker 3: Through six hundred k for that one. Here's seven.

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Speaker 1: Here's one thousand feet in Jamaica, New York for seven

715
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Speaker 1: fifty nine listed. I mean it's a you're getting these

716
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Speaker 1: are these are very very working class areas.

717
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One of the plays is South Ozone Park that you

719
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Speaker 4: just mentioned. I just look good. Up. It's like this

720
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Speaker 4: is like touching JFKA Airport.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's always on the airport. Yeah exactly. Here's

722
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Speaker 3: like actually eight hundred and sixteen square feet.

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Speaker 1: Again, this looks like a trailer in that's seven ninety

724
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Speaker 1: nine in Staten Island. So if you own any of

725
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Speaker 1: those properties and you pass them on to your kid,

726
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: they now a massive tax bill, yes exactly, because because

727
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Speaker 1: they're rich, they deserve it, they could they can.

728
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Speaker 4: The thing that's really like almost like morbidly fascinating about

729
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: this because obviously it's so it's so horrific, you know,

730
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Speaker 4: I mean, these are the types of people who own

731
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Speaker 4: this stuff. Is like they've spent their entire life saving

732
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Speaker 4: for it and working for it to give it to

733
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Speaker 4: their kids obviously. And and the thing that's so yeah,

734
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Speaker 4: that's so like like almost surreal about it is that

735
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Speaker 4: The New York Times had a fascinating article about Mam

736
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Speaker 4: Danny this week that I highly recommend everybody check out.

737
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Speaker 4: I retweeted it at Emma Joe NYC. If you want

738
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Speaker 4: to find it quickly, and that was actually the Gift articles,

739
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 4: you'll be able to open it. But they're they're reporting

740
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 4: that basically behind closed Doris, this guy is a menace.

741
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: And most fascinating point that was made in that article

742
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Speaker 4: was that it has totally non ideological and purely of craven.

743
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Speaker 4: So there was two examples that were cited that I

744
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Speaker 4: found most interesting. One was about someone called Chios who,

745
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 4: if anyone is very interested in progressive politics, in the

746
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: direction of progressive politics and kind of what's around the bend,

747
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: he is a name that you should know. He is

748
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Speaker 4: the councilman for my district actually in Bedsty. He is

749
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Speaker 4: a BIPOC progressive and he is a rising star in

750
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Speaker 4: New York politics. And the way that he's made his

751
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: name most recently or something that was interesting that he

752
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: did recently was he was thinking about challenging what's the

753
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 4: minority leader's name, Hakim Jeffries. He's so irrelevant, I literally

754
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Speaker 4: remember what he's called. So he Chios was going to

755
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Speaker 4: challenge Akim Jeffries, which would have been a huge challenge

756
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Speaker 4: to Hakim's left. And The New York Times tells us

757
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 4: a story about Zoran basically plays a call to Chios

758
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: say saying like don't you dare and if you do,

759
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Speaker 4: I'm coming after you, And then they get off the phone.

760
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 4: It's like blatant threat. And then when they get off

761
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Speaker 4: the phone, Sheio says inbox pings and it's from Zoron

762
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Speaker 4: Mom Donnie's campaign saying that his invitation to Zoron's victory

763
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Speaker 4: party has been rescinded. Total thug behavior, but thug behavior

764
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Speaker 4: and protection of the Democratic Party establishment, which apparently, if

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Speaker 4: anyone is following along, is the mortal enemy of progressives.

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Speaker 4: A second anecdote that was given in The Times that

767
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Speaker 4: was also so fascinating was so the Lieutenant governor of

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Speaker 4: New York is another rising star in progressive politics. And

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Speaker 4: his name is Antonio Delgado, if anybody again wants to

770
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Speaker 4: keep track of this, and he is the Lieutenant governor

771
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Speaker 4: of New York, and he would have been the replacement

772
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Speaker 4: for Cathy Hochel. And again when it came time to

773
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Speaker 4: endorsing for governor in the primary, not only does does

774
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: Zoron not endorse, but he goes and tells all of

775
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Speaker 4: the little DSA organizations around New York not to endorse

776
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Speaker 4: this guy, Antonio Delgado, who by the way, is a

777
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 4: formidable candidate. Actually, not only is he progressive obviously, but

778
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Speaker 4: he came from Schenectady, which is a very small town

779
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Speaker 4: in upstate New York, and went to Harvard Law School

780
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Speaker 4: and is a Rhodes scholar. Like this guy is obviously

781
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 4: a thousand times smarter than Kathy. Hogel is one hundred

782
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: percent ideology ideologically aligned with Zoron. He's like Zoron with

783
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: better credentials, and yet Zorhan is like sharp elbowing him

784
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Speaker 4: out of his opportunity for higher office. It's a fascinating

785
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 4: story that just makes me believe that all of this

786
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: progressive psycho legislation, like taxing fifty percent a states a

787
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Speaker 4: states quote unquote that are worth seven hundred and fifty

788
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars. You know, it just makes you think that

789
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Speaker 4: perhaps this communist isn't ideologically pure communists as much as

790
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: he is, perhaps more ideologically pure as a communist would

791
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: be just out for his own power in a way

792
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Speaker 4: that's literally like scary.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I think we were circling around last week,

794
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: we were talking about his Ramadan celebrations. It was starting

795
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: to feel a lot not like Ramadan and starting to

796
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: feel more like, how do we just use Islam as

797
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: a way to get leftism and communism into the bloodstream.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like that.

799
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Speaker 1: That's they're kind of both not good. I don't think

800
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Speaker 1: we'd like see New York go Islamist or communists, and

801
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: kind of both is happening right away, and he's doing

802
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: it both in subtle ways but also very aggressive ways.

803
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: I think the communist stuff is more aggressive. I think

804
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: he's being much more straightforward about how he's just trying

805
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: to jack up taxes for people, and you think that's

806
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: going to benefit people more free stuff, more handouts for

807
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: the poorest people, and more wealth confiscation for people who

808
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Speaker 1: even make a moderate living.

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Speaker 3: And it feels like that's kind of the move.

810
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Speaker 1: But the Islamism stuff is also present as well.

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Speaker 4: Correct you for one second, because I wish it was

812
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Speaker 4: Robin Hood that I was talking about, and I was

813
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Speaker 4: just taking the l as a you know, a bourgeois pig,

814
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 4: but that's actually not even it.

815
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Speaker 1: You know, this is where if we were quicker on

816
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Speaker 1: the show, we changed the lower portion of MS screens.

817
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I wish, but at least, like I

818
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: could probably go to sleep tonight and think, wow, like

819
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Speaker 4: I'm sleeping in a city that's run by such a

820
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 4: good guy. But actually, again, like the Post came out

821
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Speaker 4: with the story the editorial board release, which I know

822
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Speaker 4: where they got it. They got it from Twitter, but

823
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Speaker 4: it's true, so I'll officially attribute it to the Post.

824
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Speaker 4: They came out with this story that we're being eighty

825
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: thousand dollars per homeless person year in New York City,

826
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Speaker 4: which I don't know if you've checked on the homeless

827
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Speaker 4: people yet, but it doesn't look like they're living on

828
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Speaker 4: an eighty thousand dollars salary. Where that's actually going is

829
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Speaker 4: the nonprofit industrial complex of middle class yuppies to get raises.

830
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Speaker 4: This is not robin Hood coming to have lift the

831
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Speaker 4: homeless and pour a needy into the middle class within

832
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Speaker 4: eighty one thousand dollars a year like Gift. This is

833
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Speaker 4: this is the the Williamsburg industrial Complex.

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Speaker 1: I'm just struggling to figure out why we have more

835
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Speaker 1: than a handful of homeless people. It just it feels

836
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Speaker 1: like zero it honestly, it feels like you go to

837
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Speaker 1: each person and you say, we got a few buckets here,

838
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: three or four max, We've got the you're a criminal bucket.

839
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Speaker 1: So if you've done crimes, then then then we're gonna

840
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna you go to prison. And then are you nuts,

841
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: like completely nuts, no chance of holding on a job.

842
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: You go to an asylum, open those back up, and

843
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: then you get here there and it's not gonna be

844
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: great for anyone who know its gonna be happier there,

845
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: but it's the including you, but it better okay? And

846
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: then are you just a lazy bomb? And then in

847
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: that case, then you've got to get yourself in your

848
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: job program, and you do that fast, and that's the

849
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: expectation for society. And I don't know how you put

850
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: the conditions on people to make sure that lazy bombs

851
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: get jobs. All Right, You guys know what I think

852
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: of the American Beverage Association, because you know how much

853
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: I love those drinks that I grew up with still

854
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: love today. I'm talking about Coke, my case, Diet Coke,

855
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: Diet doctor Pepper, Doctor Pepper, all these stuff.

856
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: It's terrific drinks.

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00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: These are iconic American brands and they're part of the

858
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: American story and they have been for over one hundred years.

859
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: With everyone talking about American jobs, these companies have been

860
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: walking the walk for workers for American hometown. They've been

861
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: creating those jobs. They've been creating those opportunities. They employ

862
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: over two hundred and seventy five thousand men and women

863
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: in all fifty states. There are all people who show

864
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: up every day, do the work and deliver for our

865
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: economy and our communities. And they give you that crispy

866
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: die Coke that I look forward to a couple of

867
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: times a day. See for yourself everything they're doing, and

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Speaker 1: we deliver for America dot org that we deliver for

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Speaker 1: America dot org. Portions of The Alice Marlow Show are

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Speaker 1: sponsored by the American Beverage Association. Maybe it's just trying

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Speaker 1: to bum them out online, maybe even force them to

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Speaker 1: sign up for Twitter, and then everyone just spams them

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of negative comments.

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Speaker 4: How they streamer. We'll give you your but you have

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Speaker 4: to stream.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta stream like we're gonna stream

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Speaker 1: you until you go get it's real quick. We gotta

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Speaker 1: come up with some sort of exotic torture that I'm

879
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: being figurative for media matters and then just give you

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Speaker 1: get a job and just say that. Then then you can,

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Speaker 1: you know, in in twenty years, you'll be able to

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Speaker 1: save enough for eight hundred square feet in Staten Island.

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Speaker 4: Twenty years, you can get taxed fifty percent when you die.

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Speaker 1: No, but it feels like we're really missing some low

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Speaker 1: hanging fruit. We're not going to solve the whole romin

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Speaker 1: a day, but it just just seems.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's the thing is they don't want to, you know,

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Speaker 4: and you circle back to the original reason we were

889
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 4: having this conversation, which is that he's you know, taxing

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Speaker 4: fifty percent when you die, and it's like, well, you

891
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Speaker 4: don't have to do that. You can definitely recoup five

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Speaker 4: billion dollars, which is like a drop in the bucket

893
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Speaker 4: in New York City if you just wanted to curb

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Speaker 4: corruption a bit. But as a communist that's impossible.

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Speaker 1: So a couple other Mandani ones before we wrap. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll close with a wife update. But I did catch

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Speaker 1: this clip and him on St. Patrick's Day and I

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Speaker 1: wanted to share this with you.

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Speaker 9: I say, this is over the past few years, as

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Speaker 9: we've witnessed a genocide unfold before our eyes, there has

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Speaker 9: been deafening silence from so many for those who have

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Speaker 9: long cared about universal human rights and the extension of

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Speaker 9: them to Palestinians. Silence, however, is nothing new.

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Speaker 3: So that was his San Patrick's Day message.

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Speaker 1: Somehow I worked in the Jews are genociding the Palestinians.

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Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's an SNL sketch like this

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Speaker 1: is the the character of mom Nanni. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: SNL was was funny, it would be he would pivot

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Speaker 1: the you know, the feast day that the Irish celebrate

910
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Speaker 1: that we've we've taken as an excuse to party for

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Speaker 1: a day on a Tuesday here in the United States,

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Speaker 1: and it would make it about the Jews genociding the Palestinians.

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Speaker 1: I don't It's almost impossible to shamelessly go to that level,

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Speaker 1: and yet he's done it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he does this rhetorical thing that he must

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Speaker 4: have picked up from Obama. Obama used to do this

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Speaker 4: where when he's talking about a certain issue or a

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Speaker 4: certain talk like like kind of like cultural thing, he

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Speaker 4: kind of gets into character and code switches into the

920
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Speaker 4: cultural accent. Obama used to do this when he would

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Speaker 4: talk about Pakistan. I'm not even gonna mimic it, have

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Speaker 4: too much self respect. But he does the same thing

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Speaker 4: where every time he's talking about Palestinians or something, he

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Speaker 4: guides into this kind of English as a second language accent.

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Speaker 4: And it's something that it must be studied. I guess

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Speaker 4: him and Obama have in common that they're both theater kids.

927
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Speaker 4: But it's not compelling and it's very transparent. But that's

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Speaker 4: the thing. It's like, he doesn't you know that he's

929
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Speaker 4: the He's the cultural He's the cultural third world leader

930
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Speaker 4: in America, and third world ism is absolutely an emerging ideology,

931
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Speaker 4: both on the right and the left. It's like it's

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Speaker 4: it's an emerging ideological vibe that he has and that

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Speaker 4: he represents so well. I think it's more on the left,

934
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Speaker 4: but you know, and that was like, so, you know,

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Speaker 4: he was in really hot water in the last week

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Speaker 4: and he did something that is so utterly grotesque that

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Speaker 4: I'm still like kind of dealing with it emotionally. But

938
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Speaker 4: his wife caw caught working with all these various absolute

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Speaker 4: anti semits and I don't use that word likely. I

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Speaker 4: actually hate using.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to be specific here. What did she

942
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Speaker 1: get caught doing For people who are new to this.

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Speaker 1: I did mention it in passing a couple of times

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Speaker 1: in recent shows, but let's just spell it out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was like horrific. So it

946
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Speaker 4: started off with it was like a cascade of things

947
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Speaker 4: that have been uncovered about this woman, his wife in

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Speaker 4: the last few days. At first it started off with

949
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Speaker 4: her liking and engaging with pro October seventh content and

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Speaker 4: I don't use that We're again like I feel like

951
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Speaker 4: these words have been trivialized because of overuse. But it

952
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Speaker 4: literally was like people saying that Jews were lying about

953
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Speaker 4: sexual violence that occurred on October seventh, Like basically these

954
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Speaker 4: kind of obviously anti Semitic conspiracy theories. That's what she

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Speaker 4: was sharing online. And then the second thing that happened

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Speaker 4: after that was that she was caught doing again like

957
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Speaker 4: caught what does that even mean? It came to light

958
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Speaker 4: that she had done illustrations, because she's a quote unquote artist,

959
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Speaker 4: had done illustrations for a book by a woman who

960
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Speaker 4: called Jews vermin. So you see when I use the

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Speaker 4: word anti semi like, I'm not like being kind of

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Speaker 4: cute about it, I'm serious. And so these things have

963
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Speaker 4: been coming up kind of over four days consecutively, and

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Speaker 4: he was asked about it in a press conference, like,

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Speaker 4: do you have anything to say about your wife being like,

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Speaker 4: you know, an open anti semit And he said something

967
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Speaker 4: that was just such a cop out. She's a private person,

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Speaker 4: he said, she's a private person. I love her, but

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Speaker 4: she has nothing to do with my politics, okay. And

970
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Speaker 4: then forty eight hours later, she does this thing that

971
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Speaker 4: I found so cynical, especially in light of the New

972
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Speaker 4: York Times article that I just brought up, where he

973
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Speaker 4: verses these rabbis and Jewish community leaders to sit with

974
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Speaker 4: him for a quote unquote round table, which the posts

975
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Speaker 4: also reported, and they were photos with circulating on Twitter.

976
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Speaker 4: That's obviously using these people as a cudgel and again

977
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Speaker 4: like as an emotional blackmail tool to cover for his

978
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Speaker 4: for his wife. And I'm looking at that and I'm thinking,

979
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Speaker 4: if there was something that could be more anti Semitic

980
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 4: than the things that she's doing, it's that.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's And then what I noticed is that she's

982
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Speaker 1: at the front row at the fashion Week and she's

983
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Speaker 1: on the cover of magazines like The Cut, The Cuts,

984
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Speaker 1: getting back to back references, and then we were talking

985
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Speaker 1: about The Cut all last week, and so you got

986
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Speaker 1: to choose. It's like, my wife's a private person. But

987
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: she's a private person, like she doesn't even have a

988
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: social media account, Like it's the you can't she means it.

989
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: She's not like, oh, I want to be private so

990
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: that I can get, you know, better tickets to stuff.

991
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: I mean when we publicly, I want to get better tickets,

992
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: but then private when I want to like posts from

993
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, radical anti Semites, like you can't have, but

994
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: you've got You've got to choose.

995
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 3: And if she wants to choose private.

996
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 7: It's launching a launching a massive fashion in our career

997
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 7: for herself, obviously on the back of his electoral success,

998
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 7: but being a blatantly public person in that regard, but

999
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 7: only private when it comes to her political positions that are,

1000
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 7: by the way, just political positions that are.

1001
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 4: Unpopular or that are not even unpopular, like maybe that's

1002
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 4: not even fair to say, but that are embarrassing to

1003
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: be asked about to your face.

1004
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

1005
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: It literally was post celebrating the October seventh attack. It's

1006
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: just it's it's it's sick this guy. If you guys

1007
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: don't see through this, then you guys are just not

1008
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: paying attention. I do feel like everyone does see through it, though.

1009
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: That is one thing that I feel like people who

1010
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: are convincible are getting it what I'm not. I don't

1011
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: see him pulling new converts, but just know that a

1012
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: lot of a major major American metropolis is I've really

1013
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: already been taken over.

1014
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: And that's just yeah and yeah, yeah, well, you know

1015
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: I think that it's because sending actually a very clear message.

1016
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: And it's funny because the last episode that we did

1017
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 4: together we were talking about his Ramadan celebration where he

1018
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 4: was sitting on the floor, and I was I was

1019
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: sort of sensing my own discomfort as I was voicing

1020
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 4: what I thought about it, at least what I was

1021
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: entertaining thinking about it out loud, which was that he

1022
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 4: was using Islam as sort of a dominance move, a

1023
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: cultural dominance move, in a way that was not sincere

1024
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 4: but was sort of coercive. And I got off the

1025
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 4: podcast of you and I was like, oh, I don't

1026
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 4: know if that was fair. Oh maybe that was that

1027
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 4: was too harsh. And then lo and behold, Like seventy

1028
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 4: two hours later, Gothamis comes out with Gothamis is like

1029
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 4: a big local outlet in New York and come out

1030
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 4: there left wing. They come out with this whole thing

1031
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 4: about celebrating Ramadan in the era of Zora and mam

1032
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 4: Dani and talking about how he has They basically gave

1033
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 4: the exact same take as me, but they were saying

1034
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 4: it it's a positive thing where you know, Zorn Mamdani

1035
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 4: is elevating Islam into cultural normalcy and empowering Islam to

1036
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 4: become more of a presidency in cultural life and in

1037
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 4: public life. And that was the take that I had,

1038
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 4: but obviously I'm not super super thrilled about that at all.

1039
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 4: And how it's uh, how it's empowering to the one

1040
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 4: in ten New Yorkers who are Muslim and who should

1041
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 4: be more proud and more forceful with their practice and listen,

1042
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 4: I think that all this to say it is the

1043
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 4: cultural message is being sent, the normalization of new normal

1044
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: cultural cultural practices, cultural of opinions are being set, and

1045
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 4: people are hearing it for better or worse. And in

1046
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: the cases where you know, obviously this one in one

1047
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 4: in ten figure or whatever it is, is a lot

1048
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Speaker 4: of immigration, a lot of immigration from the Third world,

1049
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 4: from the Muslim world. In some cases it's positive, you know,

1050
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Speaker 4: in some cases it's not. And I think that there's

1051
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Speaker 4: gonna be you know, between you know, the two topics

1052
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 4: that we're discussing. These are huge. These are huge shifts

1053
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 4: in New York between the taxes and and and the

1054
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 4: way that they're feeling comfortable, which by the way, is

1055
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: third world. Is the way that there there is this

1056
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 4: comfort around just seizing property from people who they deem rich,

1057
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: which are not, but whatever, and and the way they

1058
00:56:52,640 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: just kind of impose this this uh, this. Uh yeah, yeah,

1059
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 4: a new discourse and new culture socially that I don't

1060
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 4: think people are vibing with.

1061
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1062
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and that's why we's so important.

1063
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: We have a official New York correspondent, Emma Joe Morris.

1064
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: Emma Joe always appreciate these. Tell people where they can

1065
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: find you in between these shows.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm at. I don't have I don't have a

1067
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: public profile anymore. I'm just like publishing my like retarded

1068
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: like thoughts on Twitter. But that's where I'm at, Emma

1069
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 4: Joe NYC. And other than that, I'm working quietly. I'm

1070
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 4: not a public person.

1071
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.

1072
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: No, you're not a public person unless you say something

1073
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: hilarious or write something brilliant, then that all of a

1074
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: sudden you're published.

1075
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Speaker 3: No, exactly, okay, exactly. Wonderful stuff.

1076
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having the audience, for telling ten thousand friends

1077
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: and family members about all the hard work we do

1078
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: and to miss you're putting it together.

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Speaker 3: See you next time.