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Speaker 2: My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

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Speaker 2: Go start at turning point. You would say college chapter.

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Speaker 1: Go start at turning point, yould say high school chapter.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to our chapter Leadership Summit twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: six round table with exclusively high school dudes, which is

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Speaker 2: I believe here.

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Speaker 3: And just to underscore the point, who around this table

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Speaker 3: Give me your name and all this stuff, and then

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Speaker 11: So Charlie, since his death, has become, to my understanding,

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Speaker 5: But when people see that, it becomes more inger in

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Speaker 3: It's blurring of reality, it is, it's selling sort of

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, And it's like with Epstein, right, Epstein was

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Speaker 3: He was well, and by juxtaposing him to Charlie, who

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Speaker 10: Le necessarily think that anybody who's perpetuating these means or

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Speaker 14: That this is real life.

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Speaker 10: They can tell you that they think it's real life,

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Speaker 14: And so a situation like Epstein.

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Speaker 9: I think everyone could agree that, you know, a twelve

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I wasn't too engaged personally in social media.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a it's a really good point.

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Speaker 8: And like for me tabling, when I'm doing activism events

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Speaker 7: Like the ai AI songs.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Like there's there's all these different things, and

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Speaker 8: they'll come up to me and they'll be like Charlie,

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Speaker 3: This is really interesting to me because you know, you know,

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Speaker 8: And it's gotten to the point also where I think

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I want to that you it's a good

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to get some basic framework careful.

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Speaker 3: So Danny's telling me that because he's you know, kind

450
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Speaker 3: of he interacts with you guys a lot more in

451
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Speaker 3: this in this age group, that there is a general

452
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Speaker 3: sort of lack of basic understanding what you want to

453
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Speaker 3: do and who you want to be, what you want

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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 2: With your life? Are you? Is that? First of all?

456
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Speaker 3: Is that accurate? And if it's not accurate for you,

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Speaker 3: is it accurate? Would you say of the wider wider

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Speaker 3: friend group, wider culture in your age.

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Speaker 14: Group for me, not so for my wider friend group. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: I would also say aimlessness.

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Speaker 10: I would say that they don't carry a lot of

462
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Speaker 10: purpose in life. The main reason why, you know, some

463
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Speaker 10: of these memes don't really came across my feet anymore

464
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Speaker 10: because I don't interact with them because I believe that

465
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Speaker 10: if something doesn't build me up, it tears me down,

466
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Speaker 10: and I don't want that in my life. While other

467
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Speaker 10: people they're not really looking at what builds them up.

468
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Speaker 10: And I think that they're very apathetic not only to politics,

469
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Speaker 10: not only to the mainstream media, they're apathetic to life

470
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Speaker 10: in general. And they they they don't know what's going on,

471
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Speaker 10: and they don't want to know what's going on in life.

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Speaker 10: I have so many friends that just they don't care,

473
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Speaker 10: and I tried to talk to them and have genuine

474
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Speaker 10: conversations about Hey, life actually matters. You know, you're not

475
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Speaker 10: eighteen forever. There is a world after this, and you

476
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Speaker 10: have to find out what your purpose in life is

477
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Speaker 10: because what drives for me is not this life, but

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Speaker 10: where I'm going afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you guys agree with that?

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Speaker 3: Is there a general apathy that you are encountering with

481
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Speaker 3: young men on your general.

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Speaker 5: Say that I've definitely noticed that among many people there

483
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Speaker 5: is a sort of intentional but unaware self destruction and

484
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Speaker 5: ultimlainly what I mean, that's a bit of an oxymoron.

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Speaker 2: But I'll look around.

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Speaker 5: For example, I took a photography class this past year,

487
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Speaker 5: black and white photography, and so when I was in

488
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Speaker 5: the dark room, I would look around and you just

489
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Speaker 5: see blue light from people's phones shining in their faces.

490
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Speaker 5: It felt like I was in some dystopian You're looking

491
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Speaker 5: around and people are so engrossed in I'm talking mostly

492
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Speaker 5: about social media when I say the self destruction, in

493
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Speaker 5: scrolling and looking at reels, in talking superficial conversations, that

494
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Speaker 5: often I think we miss out.

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Speaker 2: On real experiences in the real world.

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Speaker 5: And I've definitely noticed that, and I'm blessed to have

497
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Speaker 5: had that perspective, and I'm trying to back off from

498
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Speaker 5: social media and and go out and.

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Speaker 2: Experience the world. But it's definitely difficult.

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Speaker 5: Like we were talking about earlier, you know, social media

501
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Speaker 5: is so ingrained in so many of our peers' lives

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Speaker 5: that it's hard to avoid even when you really want to.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think drive is something that really.

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Speaker 11: Ze.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. So I think my family.

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Speaker 8: My family owned small businesses, and I've said to my

507
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Speaker 8: friends multiple times, Hey, if you guys are looking for

508
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Speaker 8: a summer job if you're interested. And I'll have friends

509
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Speaker 8: say to me, why would I work?

510
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Speaker 7: What is the purpose?

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Speaker 8: And I think that people have lost all ambition, they've

512
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Speaker 8: lost drive, they've lost a.

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Speaker 7: Sense of care.

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Speaker 8: It's all a sense that they don't they say, yeah,

515
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Speaker 8: they don't care.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they don't care about authority, they don't.

517
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Speaker 3: Like social media is literally turning your generation into.

518
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Speaker 2: Like mush, you go numb in your mind. Absolutely, yea.

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Speaker 11: Even the thought I've had since moving over this is

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Speaker 11: also that AI has exploded a lot in the last

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Speaker 11: few years.

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Speaker 12: What do you and people you know even plan to do?

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Speaker 11: Because I've had this thought where if I was giving

524
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Speaker 11: my sister's advice because they have young kids, I don't

525
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Speaker 11: know what I would tell them what their kids should study,

526
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Speaker 11: for example, because I don't know what will actually even

527
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Speaker 11: exist in ten years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you guys know what you want to do?

529
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Speaker 8: Do you?

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Speaker 2: Are you worried that what you want to do will

531
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Speaker 2: no longer be doable? No? Not quite think.

532
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Speaker 4: I think if my dad has always said this, he's like,

533
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Speaker 4: AI cannot replicate this. It can't do what we're doing

534
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Speaker 4: right now, right, And so I think what finds value

535
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Speaker 4: is to finding things that are going to be sought

536
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Speaker 4: after people's skills. Right yesterday when the speakers talking about

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Speaker 4: how AI, even if it takes some jobs, that's going

538
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Speaker 4: to raise the demand of other jobs, right, And so

539
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Speaker 4: it's specializing in things that are unique to you and

540
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Speaker 4: unique to humanity almost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So but you have good parenting, you have good moral

543
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Speaker 3: framework from your faith and things like that.

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Speaker 2: Generally speaking, we're.

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Speaker 3: Talking about this sort of apathetic, mushy existence of just

546
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Speaker 3: being like glued to your digital device that's in your hand.

547
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Speaker 2: This blue light images. I'll probably never forget that.

548
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Speaker 3: Actually, it's a really powerful description of everybody in an

549
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Speaker 3: IRL environment where you're supposed to be looking at something

550
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Speaker 3: physical and yet.

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Speaker 2: They're all sploting heads. That's all I saw.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fascinating image. So drive this lack of it?

553
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Speaker 14: Is this?

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Speaker 3: Do you feel this as well, like when you're thinking

555
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Speaker 3: about your generation or do you still feel like there's

556
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Speaker 3: a lot of ambition.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to my generation. I'd say yes. When

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Speaker 2: it comes to me personally, no, okay.

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Speaker 6: And then on AI, like I want to go into politics,

560
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Speaker 6: so I don't think AI is going to be taking

561
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Speaker 6: my job there, But in terms of in terms of

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Speaker 6: a lot of the things that that job would require,

563
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Speaker 6: writing anything like that. I'm definitely scared that AI is

564
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Speaker 6: going to be taking over from that, Like if you

565
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Speaker 6: why would a company hire people to.

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Speaker 14: Do it when they can just have an AI to

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Speaker 14: do it.

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Speaker 6: And I think that also contributes to some of the

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Speaker 6: apathy of our generation because people use AI. People use

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Speaker 6: AI in school to do their homework, but then they also.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting. This is interesting.

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Speaker 3: So you asked the question like about AI and is

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Speaker 3: it contributing to apathy, and it sounds like the answer

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Speaker 3: is yes, but kind of in an backwards way because

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Speaker 3: it's not that they're going one to one.

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Speaker 2: Well, AI is just going to take my job. What's

577
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Speaker 2: the point.

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Speaker 3: It's they're probably like using it, and therefore it's like

579
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Speaker 3: contributing to this like overall kind of mush brain replacing

580
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Speaker 3: their thinking.

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Speaker 2: It's replacing their thinking.

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Speaker 8: Yes, But what's interesting about AI now is there this

583
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Speaker 8: new culture on the left specifically, like I mean, for

584
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Speaker 8: a builder, for someone that wants to innovate, AI is

585
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Speaker 8: truly the paint brush to the artist, right. AI is

586
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Speaker 8: something that's revolutionary for people, like for myself my chapter,

587
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Speaker 8: we actually have a vibe coded AI website that we

588
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Speaker 8: use for all of our meetings, for check ins for

589
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Speaker 8: different things. But the problem is now the left, they've

590
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Speaker 8: come up with this idea that AI is evil, data

591
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Speaker 8: centers are taking up our water, all these things, and

592
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Speaker 8: now they're pushing forward, don't use AI.

593
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Speaker 7: But what are these people gonna do?

594
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Speaker 8: What are they gonna do when the world changes and

595
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Speaker 8: they don't change with it. And now the left to

596
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Speaker 8: counteract like our new economy is saying, oh, we're not

597
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Speaker 8: going to use AI and we're going to sit around

598
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Speaker 8: and take welfare checks because they're unwilling to use AI

599
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Speaker 8: because it's immoral, don't I don't understand.

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Speaker 10: I think that when it comes to the AI, people

601
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Speaker 10: have always tried to find a way outside of doing

602
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Speaker 10: their work. I remember when my brother was my age

603
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Speaker 10: and my mom scolded him for copying a paper off online.

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Speaker 10: You know, people have always tried to find a way out,

605
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Speaker 10: especially our generation. And one thing, especially with my chapter,

606
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Speaker 10: that have been trying to focus on is why why

607
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Speaker 10: does it matter?

608
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Speaker 14: Obviously?

609
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Speaker 2: Why does what matter?

610
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Speaker 14: Anything matter?

611
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Speaker 10: Why does something belong in your life? Why should you

612
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Speaker 10: do something? You know, people we live in an age

613
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Speaker 10: now where you can almost put you can avoid any work.

614
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Speaker 10: People use online gambling to try to make money, People use,

615
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Speaker 10: you know, the use AI to do their work. They

616
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Speaker 10: think that that's how they're going to get in life,

617
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Speaker 10: is you know, pushing stuff off. But we live in

618
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Speaker 10: an age where you have to have a why for

619
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Speaker 10: something and you have to explain that why. Because when

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Speaker 10: you actually enjoy something, when you know the purpose of it,

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Speaker 10: you're not going to pass it off, but you're going

622
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Speaker 10: to take responsibility for it, and you're going to do

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Speaker 10: it with your heart. And that's what we need more of.

624
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Speaker 3: So like in a Broadway, just taking this the why

625
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Speaker 3: because I'm fascinated from a communications standpoint, right, Like we

626
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Speaker 3: do a daily show and we're explaining things, and I'm

627
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Speaker 3: realizing in this conversation that I'm taking certain presumed baseline

628
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Speaker 3: facts and assumptions. I'm taking them for granted with your generation. Right,

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Speaker 3: So if you were born in two thousand and eight,

630
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Speaker 3: it's almost like are you telling adults that you need

631
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Speaker 3: to re establish the why in almost everything? Like why

632
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Speaker 3: do we care that you know, housings affordable? Or why

633
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Speaker 3: do we care that the you know, the socialists don't.

634
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Speaker 2: Take over in New York and southern California.

635
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Speaker 3: Like, why is it worth getting out of bed? Why

636
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Speaker 3: is it worth pursuing a career? Why is it worth it?

637
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Speaker 3: Like is that kind of what you're saying, like basic fundamental,

638
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Speaker 3: Like you know, because I would have assumed, you know,

639
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Speaker 3: some semblance of ambition could be assumed in most people.

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Speaker 3: You're telling me that if you were born in two

641
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Speaker 3: thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, then maybe I

642
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Speaker 3: shouldn't have assumed.

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Speaker 2: That people like the idea of the end result, but

644
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Speaker 2: not the hard work.

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Speaker 5: And it's hard work and overcoming obstacles that drive development.

646
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Speaker 5: And when people avoid that hardship, they don't develop in

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Speaker 5: the same way. And that's I think a bit of

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Speaker 5: a scary prognosis for our generation and the future of

649
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Speaker 5: our country and the world.

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Speaker 2: Honestly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So would you say that there's a lack of

652
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Speaker 3: ambition or is it unfocused?

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Speaker 2: Ambition? Unfocused? And what do they aspire to? If anyone? Yeah,

654
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Speaker 2: your what does your generation want? What do they want

655
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Speaker 2: out at? Success?

656
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Speaker 8: Fame?

657
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Speaker 2: Success fame?

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Speaker 14: Yea, social media fame?

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Speaker 3: Okay, social media fame clicks. Yeah, that's like the most

660
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Speaker 3: common ambition.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's a searching for human connection off off that

662
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Speaker 5: because fame clicks that sort of thing. It's a sort

663
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Speaker 5: of people want to connect. They want to have a

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Speaker 5: group they can call their own and someplace they can

665
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Speaker 5: call family among other people. And a lot of people

666
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Speaker 5: are misguided in believing that being on social media often

667
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Speaker 5: is going to provide that. When it doesn't, it pulls

668
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Speaker 5: them further away from that. But the more they're involved

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Speaker 5: in that social media, the less they realize that, and

670
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Speaker 5: it just continues.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think because you have to go ahead.

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Speaker 6: I'm just going to say you have to take the

673
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Speaker 6: step off of social media. Maybe social media is a

674
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Speaker 6: great tool for connecting with people around you, But if

675
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Speaker 6: that's all it is, and you just stay sending reels

676
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Speaker 6: back and forth and you never actually have a human interaction,

677
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Speaker 6: you've gained virtually nothing.

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Speaker 9: Social media is a good tool when you use it right.

679
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Speaker 9: But we grew up in a way where, you know,

680
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Speaker 9: my parents didn't have experience with social media, so I

681
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Speaker 9: didn't have like an Instagram teacher who was like, use

682
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Speaker 9: this responsibly. Yeah, So when we were just thrown into

683
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Speaker 9: COVID as twelve year old kids, it's like this is

684
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Speaker 9: the only way we can have a human connection now.

685
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Speaker 9: That kind of formulated our minds, and I get a

686
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Speaker 9: lot of hope being here because I'm surrounded around a

687
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Speaker 9: lot of like minded people. Yeah, and it gives me

688
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Speaker 9: a lot of motivation to keep moving forward. But I

689
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Speaker 9: think my generation is missing that because we grew up

690
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Speaker 9: in a way where we had no one educating us

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Speaker 9: on how to have human connection when you can't see

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Speaker 9: people face to face.

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Speaker 11: There's been proposals lately in the US and other countries

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Speaker 11: to essentially ban kids sixteen or under or eighteen under

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Speaker 11: from a lot of social media websites or heavily newter

696
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Speaker 11: what they're able to see and receive or catachen basically

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Speaker 11: heavily regulate social media for people who are minors.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys agree? I big concern for that, actually.

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Speaker 5: I think that when you take that away, people just

700
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 5: want it more and there will always be workarounds. There

701
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Speaker 5: will always be ways to get through things. My school,

702
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Speaker 5: for example, they block a lot of online websites and

703
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Speaker 5: games and stuff, so kids aren't messing around during class.

704
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Speaker 5: People use VPNs, they get around. There's always a way

705
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Speaker 5: to get around that roadblock, and that's putting a bandit

706
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Speaker 5: on the issue, it's not solving it. I think somehow,

707
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Speaker 5: some way, there needs to be a cultural shift. People

708
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Speaker 5: need to become more aware and actively seek hardship and

709
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Speaker 5: human interaction in the real world, not on their phone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a cultural change. It's not something you

711
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Speaker 2: can just change by writing it into law.

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Speaker 14: I think that the.

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Speaker 10: Issue is I'm homeschooled. I live in a very Christian

714
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Speaker 10: homeschooled community. I have been more my parents have taught me.

715
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Speaker 10: They help me experience these things like social media, but

716
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Speaker 10: they guide me through it, teaching me how to do

717
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Speaker 10: these things.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 10: I have friends who their parents said you're not allowed

720
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Speaker 10: to have social media until you're sixteen eighteen. Now they're eighteen,

721
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Speaker 10: twenty two years down the line, and they turn out

722
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Speaker 10: the same way. And they're also the people who push

723
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Speaker 10: out the kirkified memes. And it's not pushing it off.

724
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Speaker 10: I advocate for teaching. I believe regulation should be in place,

725
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Speaker 10: but you also need to teach how to responsibly use

726
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Speaker 10: social media and how to put down the phone at times.

727
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Speaker 10: I think that that's a big thing, is you need

728
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Speaker 10: to teach them put down the phone, go.

729
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Speaker 14: Pursue other things.

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Speaker 10: And when you're scrolling something, you need to ask yourself,

731
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Speaker 10: does this contribute to my life? Or is this contributing

732
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Speaker 10: to human connection? I honestly don't scroll unless my friends

733
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Speaker 10: are sending me stuff now, and it's a way that

734
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Speaker 10: we can actually bond over stuff we see, rather than

735
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Speaker 10: just interacting with a computer algorithm.

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Speaker 9: And Blake, to add on your point, I believe it

737
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Speaker 9: was Australia that just did the regulation in the UK

738
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Speaker 9: is about to do it, and I think it'll.

739
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Speaker 15: Be very interesting to see what the results of that are.

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Speaker 8: Ye.

741
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Speaker 9: Now, I do agree with you because it's not just

742
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Speaker 9: an issue about the tool.

743
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Speaker 15: It's an issue about our society as a whole. And

744
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Speaker 15: how do we fix that?

745
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Speaker 8: Now?

746
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Speaker 9: I think that's a question that we all have to

747
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 9: ask ourselves, is how do we fix something that we

748
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 9: didn't necessarily allow happen to us, but it just happened.

749
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Speaker 15: How does my generation go about solving this issue now?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's all about communication.

751
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Speaker 8: I think we're kind of talking about this pan Doras

752
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Speaker 8: Box effect of taking away social media and these children

753
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Speaker 8: just wanting it more. They crave, Children innately crave.

754
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Speaker 7: What they don't have.

755
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Speaker 8: When you put the cookie jar they're going to reach,

756
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Speaker 8: you know, and so I think that we have to

757
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Speaker 8: have dialogue. I think Charlie did a great job with

758
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Speaker 8: so many people on the left were so against right

759
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 8: wing policy because they didn't understand it and what they

760
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 8: were being fed through the algorithm was negative. But when

761
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Speaker 8: Charlie went into the public sphere, when he went and

762
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Speaker 8: he said, this is the truth. This is biological, this

763
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Speaker 8: is biblical, this is scientific. Look at this. Put it

764
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Speaker 8: straight in their eyes. They can't ignore it.

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Speaker 7: Social media.

766
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Speaker 8: It's just a conversation that we need to start having.

767
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Speaker 8: We need to say, you know what this is here,

768
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Speaker 8: but there's a better way to deal with it.

769
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Speaker 7: It's social.

770
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Speaker 13: This is what you concern everyone is.

771
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Speaker 15: You don't have to pay to download Instagram.

772
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Speaker 9: So Instagram's not relying off of a certain prime for

773
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Speaker 9: them to get their revenue. You are the product and

774
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 9: that is so important to define because you have to

775
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 9: ask yourself why are they doing this? And we see,

776
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Speaker 9: like as Charlie used to say, we live in the

777
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 9: most suicidal, perverse, depressed, drug addicted generation. So we have

778
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 9: major issues we have to solve. So why are these

779
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 9: social media companies they're clearly profiting off something and we're

780
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 9: not paying a dime by downloading them. And I believe

781
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 9: that they're profiting off our addiction through the algorithms, through

782
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 9: the AI that goes through and it sees what you're

783
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Speaker 9: interested in, and it makes it so hard that once

784
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 9: you start scrolling, makes it so hard to get off,

785
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 9: because you say, I want that extra sense of dopamine,

786
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 9: I want to scroll one more time, and that just

787
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Speaker 9: one more time turns into ten fifty, one hundred, and

788
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Speaker 9: I think it just builds off itself and turns into

789
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Speaker 9: a very harmful.

790
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Speaker 3: I often talk about how our culture, and you've seen

791
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: this a lot, we build up antibodies. But before you

792
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 3: build up an antibody to something, you have to get

793
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: sick with it first, right, Seeing this in some of

794
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: this conspiracy nonsense around Charlie's assassination, it's almost like it

795
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Speaker 3: took us ten months and the preliminary hearing for the

796
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Speaker 3: social media of it at all to sort of start

797
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Speaker 3: fighting back for the truth. But for ten months it

798
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Speaker 3: was bleak. Right, It's like, so you know what I

799
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Speaker 3: hear you guys talking about with just social media in general.

800
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Speaker 3: I thought that was a really good point you made

801
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: that your parents didn't grow up with it, so they

802
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: didn't know how to necessarily teach the next generation that

803
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: was social media and natives how to use it responsibly,

804
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: and that that is a gaps. Like my parents taught

805
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: me how to balance a checkbook. Nobody's balancing checkbooks anymore.

806
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: They don't, you know, it's like that was.

807
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Speaker 13: They might not know what to check exactly.

808
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Speaker 2: You guys don't even know what a checkbook is. But

809
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Speaker 2: it's just that's that's what. That's a really fascinating point,

810
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: Like how old are your guys'.

811
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Speaker 5: Parents just curious in forties, forties, fifties, sixties, fifties.

812
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so okay, so.

813
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Speaker 3: Gen X parents, Okay, this is all really really fascinating.

814
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Speaker 3: I think you just opened a lot of people's eyes

815
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: to what you guys or your lived experiences. But let's

816
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: talk about let's talk about the politics of it, all right.

817
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 3: So Charlie was known for really impacting young men specifically

818
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: and changing the way they saw politics.

819
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Speaker 2: And President Trump. President Trump had historic gains in.

820
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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four with young men specifically, but those gains

821
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Speaker 3: have fallen away. Why why did that happen? First of all,

822
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Speaker 3: and second of all, you know, talk about what you

823
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Speaker 3: guys are seeing about President Trump, about conservatives, mostly negative,

824
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Speaker 3: mostly positive, and maybe you guys are conservatives, so speak

825
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: about yourself, but also your wider friend groups.

826
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter where we start. How about we start here.

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Speaker 14: Shoot, I don't think I have a good answer there.

828
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Speaker 2: Well, the vibe around Trump, was it bad? Is it good?

829
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Speaker 5: I think that there's a sort of general movement on Instagram,

830
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Speaker 5: for example, social media when we talk about people who

831
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Speaker 5: are more extreme righters, people are right or leftists, Marxist,

832
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Speaker 5: that sort of thing, really vitriolic, negative things are pushed,

833
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Speaker 5: and whichever side that's from, that's what people typically see.

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Speaker 9: I think.

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Speaker 5: So I would say that for the most part, because

836
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Speaker 5: the content that creates the most engagement is the most extreme,

837
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Speaker 5: emotional extreme, the one that creates the most visceral reaction,

838
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Speaker 5: because that's what gets views and clicks.

839
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Speaker 2: This is just the way it is.

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Speaker 5: I would say mostly negative things because to be honest,

841
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Speaker 5: the positive things sometimes they may seem more tame than

842
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Speaker 5: a crazy accusation that's made. I mean with conspiracy theories,

843
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Speaker 5: like if Kennis Owens makes a crazy claim, you know

844
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Speaker 5: that's going to get more views and more clicks because

845
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Speaker 5: it's so outlandish.

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Speaker 3: I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie

847
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Speaker 3: a friend, and what I remember most wasn't just what

848
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: people saw on stage. It was what was behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: That was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love

850
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Speaker 3: for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others

851
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Speaker 3: to live with courage and conviction. Charlie believed that following

852
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Speaker 3: Christ wasn't something you compartmentalize. He didn't put it in

853
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Speaker 3: a box. He lived it out loud. It shaped how

854
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: he lived, how he served, how he treated people every

855
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Speaker 3: single day. Charlie Kirk American Martyr captures that heart. This

856
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie. It's an invitation

857
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Speaker 3: for each of us to ask what kind of legacy

858
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Speaker 3: we're building and whether we're willing to stand firm in

859
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Speaker 3: our own faith when it's tested. I hope that you'll

860
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Speaker 3: watch it with your family and have those conversations together.

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Speaker 3: Go to angel dot com slash kirk. That's angel dot

862
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Speaker 3: com slash Kirk, become an Angel Guild member, watch Charlie

863
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Speaker 3: Kirk American Martyr and help bring more stories of faith, courage,

864
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Speaker 3: and conviction to audiences around the world.

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Speaker 6: I would say specifically, objectively false content specifically around President

866
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Speaker 6: Trump is so high on Instagram, specifically, so I have

867
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Speaker 6: friends that are do not love President Trump as much

868
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Speaker 6: as I do, and they will send you reels all

869
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Speaker 6: the time, and I will instantly go look it up and.

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Speaker 2: See if that's true.

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Speaker 6: It's just objectively and it happened just I would say,

872
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Speaker 6: specifically Trump with Epstein. That's maybe the tons of AI

873
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Speaker 6: photos that people think are real, fake stories, fake documents

874
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Speaker 6: from the Epstein files that say Trump was on the island.

875
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Speaker 6: All the time, I see it and my friends believe it,

876
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Speaker 6: and it's awful, and I think that that has contributed

877
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Speaker 6: a little.

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Speaker 11: You say that just also because I wanted to ask

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Speaker 11: what issues they care most about, and is it is

880
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 11: this what's standing out? Like they'll say my top political

881
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Speaker 11: issue is Epstein justice or take.

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Speaker 12: Down the Epstein.

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Speaker 6: A lot of my friends would say that, yes, yeah,

884
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 6: useless Epstein.

885
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 4: Like justice, But it's just people they want to know.

886
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 4: There's almost like a taboo around Epstein. And with the files,

887
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 4: they people heard that there's extras left right, and they

888
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: weren't all released, and so people think that they're protecting

889
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: people in power, right, and a lot of times that's Trump, right,

890
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 4: And so I think almost there is a there's just

891
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: like a there's a taboo around it, and so people

892
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: talk about it more and then they cause and then

893
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 4: it causes discourse, and then people make things up now

894
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: too to be like, oh, well this actually released, but.

895
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 12: It did not.

896
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 6: And I would add specifically on the Trump Epstein thing,

897
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 6: it's it's not all totally fake, like Trump's saying that

898
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 6: the Epstein files were a Democrat hoax that totally fed

899
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 6: into it and let it led it to be even

900
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 6: more when we know that's not true.

901
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: So he yeah, what he was specifically referring to, and

902
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: actually I was Kad said this pretty well in an

903
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: event that I was with him at.

904
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 2: He was saying that the.

905
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 3: The hoax he meant, like, the pursuit of coming after

906
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 3: him was the hoax, right, because they didn't do this

907
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: when Joe Biden was president, and all of a sudden

908
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 3: it became this like you know, this driver. So that's

909
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: what he was getting at. But yeah, he wasn't saying

910
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 3: that Epstein in it of itself was a host.

911
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 5: Well, and just like here, I think the meetings are misconstrued.

912
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 5: So a lot of people don't realize that. And that's

913
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 5: another issue because when there's not clarity, people run with

914
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 5: what may not be true.

915
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 2: Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't.

916
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 5: They don't know, but people run with things and that

917
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 5: should be difficult because I mean, right here, I think

918
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 5: that's the perfect example of that. Like I'm in the

919
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 5: same boat now with that explanation, that makes sense. But

920
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 5: a lot of people, especially those who are less engaged

921
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 5: in politics, let's say, I don't think that they consider

922
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 5: that deeply. Some of the stuff they hear, so they'll

923
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 5: hear some crazy headline or something and they'll internalize that

924
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 5: and then just be like, Okay, that's my politics.

925
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: But we saw this. We saw this with this video

926
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: of Charlie at Aspen.

927
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 3: Right, you guys probably heard about that story, yes, where

928
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: he asked, you know what the succession.

929
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: Plan for a turning point was? So then Erica had

930
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: it as part of our intro.

931
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: Video Women's Leadership Summit, and then that I said something

932
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: along the lines that we decided to troll the trolls,

933
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: meaning the trolls were.

934
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 12: Like the video, so then we want to you don't

935
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 12: want to just let them have.

936
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: So we released it on our terms and so as

937
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 3: a troll to the troll, the internet took that as

938
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: we released an AI video like somehow, and then it

939
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: became this thing and then it was like on PBDS

940
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: podcasts that and they were so mad at us for

941
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: really you know, and like we dealt with it and

942
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: we like corrected it, but I couldn't believe how far it,

943
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: like so that you'd ask Groc and Groc would say, yeah, it's.

944
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 2: An AI video, and we're like how this, Like, God,

945
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: it wasn't. I never said it was.

946
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 13: An AI vide about it is that I want to

947
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 13: throw How bad is it?

948
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 11: Where someone if you assert something, someone will just outsour

949
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 11: us like, oh, here's the here's the AI.

950
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 12: I asked AI to think for me here.

951
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 10: It's like your generation would understand this of people just

952
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 10: like reading the head lines. Now, imagine if the headlines

953
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 10: were just.

954
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 14: All you saw.

955
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 10: Yah, yeah, people are just people are just reading a

956
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 10: memafied version of the headlines. And let's say you accidentally

957
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 10: made a slip up in what you said that is

958
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 10: instantly being clipped like before if it was in the newspaper.

959
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 10: You can't just go out and take like one segment

960
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 10: as somebody accidentally mispronouncing a word, but now it's it's

961
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 10: the cliped version.

962
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, And that brings up such an important point because

963
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 9: I think where my generation gets their news from social media?

964
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 8: Now.

965
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 9: I actually asked Shaw before I came out here. I said,

966
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 9: weird question, but where did Charlie get his news from?

967
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 9: Because I really wanted to get that information, because, to

968
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 9: be honest, I don't know what to believe online anymore

969
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 9: because the limit of entry to go on social media

970
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 9: and post content there is not anyone can do it right.

971
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 13: And when you bring up headlines, there can be a

972
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 13: headline and it has nothing to do with the relevant story.

973
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 13: It can be totally unrelated, which is the concern I

974
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 13: see because I just want a.

975
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 9: Way to get straight news that is all about facts,

976
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 9: and we don't have that in our generation.

977
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 5: I read I read an article the other day that

978
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 5: was about recently there's an incident with Ice where there

979
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 5: was an legal immigrant who was being arrested. He drove

980
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 5: and tried to run over the Ice agent and was shot.

981
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: And it was talking about how all of these headlines

982
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 5: were talking about father of how many people who's been

983
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 5: working in Houston for thirty five years building homes, is

984
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 5: shot in terrible incident, and then you read five paragraphs

985
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 5: down and at that point they're like, oh, he was

986
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 5: trying to kill the guy. But the people who read

987
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 5: the headlines or just read the first paragraphic there.

988
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: Is a huge felt need that I'm just like I'm

989
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: realizing of just like a it's like a full time

990
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: I'm not committing to us doing this, but like there

991
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: maybe we should of just like seeing the new like

992
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: disinformation that like your generation the.

993
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 13: Tail end of gen Z.

994
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: By the way, we talked about gen Z, you guys

995
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: here at the very end, there's only a few more

996
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: years of gen Z.

997
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: Then we're already at gen Alfa.

998
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 13: That's right, ye.

999
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 9: All this.

1000
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah so so.

1001
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: But the point is of seeing this stuff that you

1002
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 3: guys are getting fed and then somebody basically doing videos

1003
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: of like this is what the kids are seeing, Here's

1004
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: what actually is the truth, because it sounds like you

1005
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 3: guys are just literally don't know where to go for

1006
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: truth and mean for it.

1007
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 7: And sorry.

1008
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 8: The thing that I am finding most concerning for the right,

1009
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 8: for the conservative movement is it's unfortunately I think it

1010
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 8: it's come with the passing of Charlie is Charlie was

1011
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 8: the bedrock of the conservative movement. He was what felt

1012
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 8: like kept everything together, and now it's fragmented.

1013
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 7: We have all these different fights.

1014
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 8: We've got Candice and Shapiro and and so it's so

1015
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 8: difficult now for the conservative movement because there's so many people,

1016
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 8: actually the younger generation, that are hearing this from them

1017
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 8: and hearing that from them. And now we have a

1018
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 8: conservative movement that's completely divided, and it's it's absolutely terrible

1019
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 8: to see.

1020
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 3: I would love to submit that some of those names

1021
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 3: you just mentioned are actually liberals.

1022
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: But that you that you think you.

1023
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: Think that there can they at least used to be

1024
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: associated on some level with conservatives.

1025
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: But anyway, some of this is is a.

1026
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 12: Little black pilling, and Charlie says, we can't black pilt.

1027
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 13: So I know.

1028
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 11: Another culture I've seen that feels stronger among young men

1029
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 11: that it did in my own generation is there was

1030
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 11: at least a culture of maybe self improvement, like guys

1031
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 11: who get really into the.

1032
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: Gym, for example, thrill into that.

1033
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 12: Is that still going with guys?

1034
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 4: That's a possi It's big. I mean, there's influencers, and

1035
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 4: their whole thing is looks maxing right, making.

1036
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: Your say some of the names, the big names.

1037
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 13: To take advice from them, Andrew m.

1038
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 16: Lava even without the end one of them that just

1039
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 16: came out, one of them died apparently because he was

1040
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 16: injecting gold into himself and he went in the strain.

1041
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 8: So I think that goes back to this online culture

1042
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 8: that's unreal. It's it's a false reality, and these people

1043
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 8: are watching it sitting in their living room saying, wow,

1044
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 8: I'd love to do that, but they have no ambition,

1045
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 8: they have no drive, and they're looking at this and

1046
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 8: it just makes them feel sad. When you when you

1047
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 8: see someone like clav who is un like ungodly looking

1048
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 8: and just like I mean.

1049
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 7: His chin, his chin is like it looks like a knife.

1050
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 7: And you see that and you're sitting on your no I'm.

1051
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 8: Serious, when you're when you're sitting on your couch without purpose,

1052
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 8: without drive, you see that, and that's that's why we

1053
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 8: have these suicide rates, especially in young men, and.

1054
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 10: It's a huge issue and people. This is where I

1055
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 10: think the beginning of the apathy came from, was when

1056
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 10: you first started having any type of you know, social media,

1057
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 10: because it gave you an essence of somebody being in

1058
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 10: their real life, but actually they're showing this glamorified version

1059
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 10: of their life.

1060
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 14: And I think even for me it's hard.

1061
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 10: It's great being at this chapter Leadership summit because I

1062
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 10: see some of these chapter presidents. I look at their

1063
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 10: chapters and they're huge, and I'm like, oh my gosh,

1064
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 10: I wish my chapter was like that. Then you meet

1065
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 10: them and you're like, we're honestly like the same type

1066
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 10: of person. And then I meet twenty thirty more chapter

1067
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 10: presidents for that one that have the exact same size

1068
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 10: chapter as meet or less with the same struggles. And

1069
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 10: that's just what personally I'm experiencing here is like, you

1070
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 10: honestly feel like you're with real people who have the

1071
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 10: same struggles as you. But when you have this social

1072
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 10: media where you know the person who is you know,

1073
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 10: we talked about the extremes go viral. The average person

1074
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 10: doesn't go viral. It's when they do something that is

1075
00:51:54,840 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 10: not average, and people will will use things to make

1076
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 10: that artificially happen. And I think that's one of the

1077
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 10: biggest issues in our dating culture right now is people's

1078
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 10: standards are so high because of what they see on

1079
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 10: the internet. People's standards for themselves, they don't try to

1080
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 10: pursue them because they're so atrociously high that they just

1081
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 10: seem unpursuable.

1082
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: I think that's a really good insight. I I think

1083
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: you're talking in broad strokes. You could call it conspiracy

1084
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 3: culture too, sort of disinformation culture.

1085
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 8: These people are synonymous with the same like, it's the

1086
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 8: same circles. Like if you look at Clavicular, they're they're

1087
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 8: interacting with some of these people that are promoting these conspiracies,

1088
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 8: promoting all these different things.

1089
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 7: It's it's kind of the same particular.

1090
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 10: And Nick Fuint has did a lot of content together.

1091
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 10: Yea actual, yeah, Andrew take.

1092
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 9: You know what.

1093
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 5: I think gen Z has a fear of commitment. And

1094
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 5: because there's a fear of commitment to let's say, religion, faith,

1095
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 5: having a relationship with God for example, that absence that

1096
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 5: whole and somebody's soul gets.

1097
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: Filled by all this it gets builled by all this stuff.

1098
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: What about Israel, we're.

1099
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 7: Here, what about Israel?

1100
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly? Yeah, I mean it's we're talking about conspiracy culture. Listen.

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Speaker 2: I have very complex views.

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Speaker 3: I find jew hate to be extraordinarily evil, but I

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Speaker 3: have policy differences with Israel, and I'm America first, for example,

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Speaker 3: So I'll just put that out there. I but it's

1105
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: there's no denying that, especially for younger people. It has

1106
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: become the catch all, like you know Ziosberg, and it's

1107
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 3: like Jews burging is literally what happens online for like,

1108
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Speaker 3: it's ninety percent of the wedge issue that I see.

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Speaker 3: So what are you seeing around the Israel topic for

1110
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Speaker 3: people that let's just say, there's a boomer watching gen

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Speaker 3: x er okay, boomer that wants to understand what you

1112
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Speaker 3: guys actually think about Isra, what you're perceiving that the

1113
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: vibe is about Israel in your generation.

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Speaker 5: Tell them, I'm really glad you brought that up, because

1115
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 5: we were actually talking about this outside.

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Speaker 2: We knew this would get brought up. We were certain

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 5: And the reason why is so many people, I mean,

1119
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 5: so many people will automatically default.

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Speaker 2: Too if they don't fully understand something. Blame is Reel.

1121
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: The Jews did it. And I think it goes back.

1122
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: To the meme culture toomes are more than Charlie, more

1123
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Speaker 4: than Epstein, like they are all over the place, whether

1124
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 4: it's saying Israel owns Trump, whether it's saying this has

1125
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 4: happened because of Israel or whatever the case might be.

1126
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Speaker 14: It almost people.

1127
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Speaker 4: Are defaulting to it now, and it's like the cat exactly,

1128
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Speaker 4: I get cornered.

1129
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Speaker 2: Well, of course, you would say, because you're a Zio show.

1130
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Speaker 4: Exactly, and because it's being normalized now, it's in the

1131
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 4: way of people think and they see it online and

1132
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 4: then it starts to influence their mind and so it's

1133
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Speaker 4: like maybe they weren't they had no problem with Israel,

1134
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: but now they see all the memes and they start

1135
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 4: to believe the falseness and the whatever the case might be.

1136
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 4: Now they're like, oh, well, this business went bankrupt because

1137
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: of them, or whatever the case might be.

1138
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: Does this even have a guess?

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Speaker 9: And obviously that's morally wrong, and I will you know,

1140
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 9: we've had issues like that in our country and that's

1141
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 9: something that is obvious. But also like to address the boomers,

1142
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 9: I would first say America is the greatest country.

1143
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 13: To ever exist.

1144
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Speaker 15: Yea, we all around this table agree with that absolutely.

1145
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Speaker 9: However, we face some very key issues in our nation

1146
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 9: right now, and I think we need to focus the

1147
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 9: mess belief first before we get involved in foreign policy.

1148
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 9: And I think that's that's the biggest thing with my generation.

1149
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 9: It's because we've grown up in a society that needs help,

1150
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 9: and we get frustrated when we see help going to

1151
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 9: other nations when it's not being focused on us.

1152
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Well, in question, I was going to ask, since you

1154
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 11: mentioned since it is everything like a business goes under

1155
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 11: and they say Israel or whatever, is there even a

1156
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 11: policy expression of this meme, like does this translate to

1157
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 11: any actual political demands or is it almost they blame

1158
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 11: the Jews or blame Israel the way you might otherwise blame,

1159
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 11: you know, gremlins or something.

1160
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Speaker 5: There are a lot of people who they'll joke about

1161
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 5: it and don't think of that seriously, But the jokes

1162
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 5: are so constant about Israel did this, Israel did that

1163
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 5: that it honestly makes me start to think that maybe

1164
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 5: these people do believe that.

1165
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 10: To a certain it started a problem a lot of people,

1166
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 10: you know, because of the reason Trump won in twenty

1167
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 10: twenty four is clearly because young men like us were unheard.

1168
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 10: We were attacked by the left. If you are straight,

1169
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 10: if you are white, if you are a male. If

1170
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 10: you are all.

1171
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 14: Three, you are their worst enemy. You are the scum

1172
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Speaker 14: of the earth.

1173
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 10: You are kicked out, you were just berated, and you

1174
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 10: are the worst person in their lives. And if you

1175
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 10: add on being a Christian and being a conservative, you're

1176
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 10: the plorable.

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Speaker 14: You're there.

1178
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 10: They think that we should be shot and and they

1179
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 10: carried that out on Charlie. But then they go and

1180
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 10: some of us has posted a picture in front of

1181
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 10: the pickup the mic stand, and they go and they say,

1182
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 10: you need to be curked.

1183
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: I mean, last night, we're at the baseball game. Two

1184
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 4: girls got pushed down a stairway by an angry attendee

1185
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 4: and then she ran out of the stadium. And I

1186
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 4: don't know, I think the girls are okay, but like

1187
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: they got pushed down a stairwell because they were in

1188
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 4: a freedom Sure.

1189
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Speaker 6: Like somebody told some of my friends that they should

1190
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 6: be kirked and then pointed to their neck right here

1191
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 6: in a very clear attempt to say that.

1192
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: And then someone else was weirrid to me about it.

1193
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: It's a removal from also at the game.

1194
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Speaker 7: Is that the game last night?

1195
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Speaker 8: Yes? And to say to say to the older audience,

1196
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 8: by the way, because you guys keep saying it into

1197
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 8: even you guys, that's a verbal now to get curved.

1198
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 13: That's a verb.

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Speaker 8: That is a verb that people use literally like to

1200
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Speaker 8: refer to assassination.

1201
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 7: They will say kirke.

1202
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 3: When it started with Luigi Mangioni and the United Healthcare

1203
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: CEO Brian Thompson, I think is his name, and you

1204
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: pull this and it's something like between eighteen and thirty

1205
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: nine self described liberals. It's basically almost thirty percent believe

1206
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: that political violence is okay. Yeah, So it's distinctly had

1207
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: a huge ramp up with young people that are progressing, and.

1208
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 10: I'm concerned at how much's ramping up and young younger

1209
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 10: conservatives who are there.

1210
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Speaker 14: They're not truly anti Semitic. I hope you guys know

1211
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 14: that they are.

1212
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 10: So there are some, but that is a minority that

1213
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 10: leads the thoughts, and there's sheep that follow that, and

1214
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 10: they just hear it, and so then when they hear actually,

1215
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 10: there weren't six million Jews. There were only two hundred

1216
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 10: thousand that were killed in the Holocaust.

1217
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 14: And people people tell me, Logan, that's a fact, and

1218
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 14: I said, where did you hear it?

1219
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 10: Well, there was this Instagram reel and I'm like, I

1220
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 10: tell them, stop listening to the reels.

1221
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 7: Do your research.

1222
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 10: That is, there are so many people that you can

1223
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 10: go and talk to who are Holocaust survivors, who will

1224
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 10: tell you about that pain and it gives them a

1225
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 10: dose of reality for a moment, and they're they're upset

1226
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 10: about what's going on. But then they hear that Benjamin

1227
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 10: yet now who controls Trump? That a lot of them.

1228
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 10: Something that's really misinformed right now is they're telling people

1229
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 10: that where in Iran because of Israel? Like that's the

1230
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 10: big talking point right now, when I will talk to

1231
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 10: them and point to so many other reasons why we're

1232
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 10: in Iran outside of Israel. And I take the Matt

1233
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 10: Walsh approach on the Israeli topic. I'm America first, and

1234
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 10: I think that we should aid our allies when they

1235
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 10: need aid, when it benefits us. But a lot of

1236
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 10: people feel ignored and then they go to the extreme.

1237
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 9: I think it's important to make a key differential here

1238
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 9: between Israel, the Israeli people, the Jewish people in the

1239
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 9: Israeli government very much. When I say I'm America first,

1240
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 9: that's not me saying I'm anti Israel at all. I

1241
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 9: have disagreements with the Israeli government personally. That's my personal stance.

1242
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 9: I've seen things in this war. For example, I'm not

1243
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 9: convinced that they want this war to end. The war

1244
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 9: that we are in in Iran and that you know

1245
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 9: goes by.

1246
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,479
Speaker 3: So when JD is pursuing the MoU correct, you see

1247
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 3: some consternation and hand ringing from the Israeli government.

1248
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 13: Absolutely, that's what you're getting at.

1249
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, that, Or you know last week how there was

1250
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 9: the story of the United States and Iranian negotiators were

1251
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 9: coming to meet and there was supposedly a plot to

1252
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 9: assassinate the Iranian negotiators. I don't know if that's necessarily

1253
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 9: been confirmed yet, so I'm cautious when I say that.

1254
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 9: But we have to make that differential, because I'm not

1255
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 9: seeing that differential being made.

1256
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 13: And I think that's why so many.

1257
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 9: Boomers are like, what are you guys talking about. It's

1258
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 9: because we're not necessarily talking about the people some people are,

1259
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 9: and some people are being antisemitic about it, and they're

1260
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 9: saying it's the Israelies, it's the Jews, it's all that.

1261
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 13: That's not the case.

1262
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 9: I'm specifically talking about the Israeli government, and I think

1263
01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 9: it's very important we make that.

1264
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: And by the way, I just want to underscore that's

1265
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 3: my position as well, and I think it's so.

1266
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Speaker 2: Critically important to this discussion. And I know this mattered

1267
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: a lot to Charlie.

1268
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Speaker 3: You are not anti Semitic if you have policy difference

1269
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 3: differences with Israel, if you want to see the war end,

1270
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 3: if you want us to stop giving them federal funds

1271
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,959
Speaker 3: every year. Right, there's basically an ongoing annuity of about

1272
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: four billion dollars that we send to Israel, which, yeah,

1273
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 3: in the whole scheme of the federal government is kind

1274
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 3: of a drop in the bucket.

1275
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Speaker 2: But it's still very symbolically important.

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Speaker 3: You're not anti Semitic if you have questions about a

1277
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 3: lot of things, right, And I think that where this

1278
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 3: dialogue first broke down is that there was a jump

1279
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Speaker 3: by groups like the ADL and even some conservative Jewish

1280
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Speaker 3: people or allies of Israel to castigate everybody as anti

1281
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: Semitic that just had honest questions or had honest policy disagreements.

1282
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Speaker 3: And I just really really want to make that clear

1283
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 3: that that is not okay actually, and it's contributed to

1284
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 3: making this such a toxic conversation. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here,

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Speaker 11: This is maybe wish casting on my part, but I

1305
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 11: have seen some people online opine that they think anti

1306
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 11: Semitism is becoming more to use the slang term.

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Speaker 12: Cringe, yes, because the people who most.

1308
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Speaker 11: Energetically push it are really obviously really stupid.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a there was actually a Babylon but I

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Speaker 3: haven't seen many babilom Be headlines like that actually, but

1311
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Speaker 3: I happened to get this one sent to me because

1312
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Speaker 3: it was about Candace and it was like Candas is

1313
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: actually an Israeli opt to make make anti Semitism look retarded,

1314
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's really fun, actually, And I

1315
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Speaker 3: do you talk to some of these like og anti

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Speaker 3: semits from like.

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Speaker 2: Uh, who's og? It's been going on for.

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Speaker 3: It, right, and like yeah, in like twenty sixteen, like

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Speaker 3: Trump one point zero right, and a lot of these

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Speaker 3: guys kind of got washed out of this like ideology

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Speaker 3: and now they're just like looking at it as kind

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Speaker 3: of like low iq slock and like, are you seeing

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Speaker 3: any turn of the corner in this stuff at all?

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Speaker 9: Yet?

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Speaker 8: You know, I think that people are starting to fade out.

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Speaker 8: I think that and this is probably a scary thing

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Speaker 8: that people are willing to say that Jews are all

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Speaker 8: terrible people because of a Trent and now the trend's

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Speaker 8: fading and they're not, which is terrified. That's that is

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Speaker 8: even scarier in itself, that the trend is fading, so

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Speaker 8: now people don't agree with it because these people are

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Speaker 8: willing to say atrocious things just because they're sheep, just

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Speaker 8: for a trend and just for sheep. But it's also

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Speaker 8: on the more pro is real side, I mean, like

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Speaker 8: the ideas that have been pushed forward, that saying Christ

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Speaker 8: is King is anti Semitic. I mean, it's going so

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Speaker 8: far on both sides, when truly in the conservative space,

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Speaker 8: this is you know, Nicholas fuente Is and this is

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Speaker 8: Ben Shapiro, it's probably more in the middle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, and even Fuentez is calling it low IQ anti

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Speaker 3: Semitism stuff, right, so anybody else? So you said, you

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Speaker 3: see it kind of maybe fading a little.

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Speaker 8: I think it's fading, but I think that it's I'm.

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Speaker 2: Still really strong. Yeah, do you see any change.

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Speaker 10: I've seen it in the arguments and conversations.

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Speaker 2: I have people that it's faded.

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Speaker 10: They've started they've started to still try to insinuate the ideas,

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 10: but then they are so scared to tell me where

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Speaker 10: they heard it. Because if they say, well I heard

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01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 10: it from Candice Owan's clip, I'm like and then they're

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01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 10: like they're like yeah, and I'm like, come on, do

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Speaker 10: you have another source?

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Speaker 14: And to like you kind of have a point?

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Speaker 3: Well, and this is what this is where it's true,

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01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 3: there is nuance and there should be nuance in this

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Speaker 3: APAK is very influential. You know how I know that

1358
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 3: is because you have guys like Ted Cruz and others

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Speaker 3: that that openly sort of say these things, and I don't,

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Speaker 3: for the life of me, I don't understand, you know,

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Speaker 3: why they say some of this stuff. But there's also

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Speaker 3: truth on the other side that, like, you know, zero

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Speaker 3: point zero two percent of the world's population can't be

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Speaker 3: responsible for every single ill either, right, And so it's like,

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Speaker 3: I wish we could have an adult conversation about this,

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Speaker 3: but we're talking about social media and the kids. So

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Speaker 3: you know, it's like the nuance is obviously lost. Do

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Speaker 3: you guys see it's point? Is this wish casting or

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Speaker 3: do you see it kind of like normalized.

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Speaker 2: To see it as a symptism normalizing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like like no, I mean, because yeah, it is

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Speaker 3: it getting cringe and like I.

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Speaker 4: Think so because I think going back to the memes,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to keep talking about them, but like

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Speaker 4: the more brain rot it becomes the more like just

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Speaker 4: typical and the silly.

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Speaker 2: It's like they jump the shark exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: do you guys?

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Speaker 6: A common thread of everything we've talked about on social media,

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Speaker 6: whether it be Israel or anything else, is that everything

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Speaker 6: we're talking about is extremely low substance. There is no

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Speaker 6: actual substantive argument to any of this. It is all

1383
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 6: just a meme, a headline. There's no points to it,

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Speaker 6: there's nothing to back it up. There's no evidence that applies.

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Speaker 14: To everywhere here.

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Speaker 6: And the thing is, if we can convince our generation

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Speaker 6: that your burden, the burden of proof to convince you

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Speaker 6: of something needs to be a lot higher than that.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree. This is what we found with this whole.

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Speaker 3: Like Charlie Kirk conspiracy stuff too, is like almost all

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Speaker 3: of the allegations in the conspiracy slop have been are

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Speaker 3: just completely baseless.

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Speaker 2: There's no evidence of proof.

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Speaker 3: And they then what they do is they put the

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Speaker 3: burden of proof on you and it's like no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: You came with the allegation, the burden of proof is

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Speaker 3: on you crazy old posts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and then they'll exactly.

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Speaker 3: So I think when I talk about we build antibodies

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Speaker 3: to this, like you, as young men that are going

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Speaker 3: to be steeped in this and in this space, you

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01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: have to remember that there is a burden of proof.

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Speaker 3: I mean, our whole justice system is based around it.

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Speaker 3: You know, recklessly smearing people is a really gross thing

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Speaker 3: to do, and that's basically what it sounds like the

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01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 3: Internet's become. So I don't know how much time we

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Speaker 3: have left, but we probably have to get close to

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Speaker 3: wrapping up soon. But the point of politics, right, let's

1409
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 3: bring it home here. President Trump was gaining popularity. Then

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Speaker 3: Epstein happened, Midnight Hammer happened, second Iran strikes happened. Lost

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Speaker 3: a lot of you know, you could see it from

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Speaker 3: the podcast, whether it's Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn or whatever. Right,

1413
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Speaker 3: he lost some of this coalition that had supported what

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Speaker 3: can bring it back?

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Speaker 9: Ending this war before the midterms. I think it's quite simple.

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Speaker 9: I think what frustrates Americans so much right now is

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Speaker 9: the economy. I'm not content with the current stay of

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Speaker 9: the economy. In polls show that the American people, specifically

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Speaker 9: gen Z is not either. Now, I think if we

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Speaker 9: end this war and I ran, we will see the

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Speaker 9: economy trend in a positive direction immediately. I'm not saying

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Speaker 9: everything will get better with the snap of a finger,

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Speaker 9: but I think if President Trump goes in and ends

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01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 9: this war before the midterms, I still think we can

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Speaker 9: see success when it comes to our next next one.

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Speaker 2: So you think it's economic, what about etein about.

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Speaker 8: What I see with it is cultural and kind of

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Speaker 8: bringing back to what you were just talking about Charlie.

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Speaker 7: So my to give some background for me. My dad

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Speaker 7: was there the day Charlie passed.

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Speaker 8: He's the head women's soccer coach at UVU, and there

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Speaker 8: were some people that we knew in the audience that

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Speaker 8: were accused of killing Charlie by Candace. And so these

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Speaker 8: conspiracies that are getting so far, I do think if

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Speaker 8: we handle this properly, some people are going to start

1436
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Speaker 8: awakening to these conspiracies and start saying, you know what,

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Speaker 8: maybe Candace is too far.

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Speaker 7: And maybe here's the thing about Candace.

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Speaker 8: Candace, if you're listening, last week, you're telling me that

1440
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Speaker 8: Israel did it, and this week you're telling me a

1441
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Speaker 8: random person in the audience, did where is your baseline?

1442
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Speaker 8: Where's your knowledge? And what's your story? If someone says

1443
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 8: I agree with her, who do they agree with?

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Speaker 2: Which episode?

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01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 8: Which episode? Which state of mind do you agree with?

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Speaker 8: And I think that we can find some rationality. And

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Speaker 8: I think if we push forward common sense hopefully, And

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Speaker 8: when I say common sense, I don't think the best

1450
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 8: way to go forward to say, you know what, the

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 8: left is so crazy, let's go so far right. How

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Speaker 8: about we break it down like Charlie did, get a

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01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 8: little bit more common sense, and then we can hopefully

1454
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Speaker 8: defeat these people that are trying to push forward these

1455
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 8: absolutely insane rhetoric and that cultural change will change everything.

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Speaker 8: Culture is the epicenter of political life.

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Speaker 12: I want to hear from the rest of you on

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Speaker 12: what can be done to reassemble the coalition.

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Speaker 2: Even in part I think Henrick's point, I agree with

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Speaker 2: a lot of that.

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Speaker 6: I think it goes into something that Charlie really talked about,

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Speaker 6: which was the renting culture. And I think that that's

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Speaker 6: something that our generation, especially as we start to live

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Speaker 6: on our own, that's something that we're really going to face. Right. So,

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Speaker 6: the average age of home first time home ownership in

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Speaker 6: America is now forty one saw that it's insane.

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Speaker 2: It's insane.

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Speaker 6: So we're just renting. Like I was talking to these

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Speaker 6: guys earlier, like if you're renting a home and you

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Speaker 6: ding a hole in the wall, you don't really care.

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Speaker 6: It's not yours to deal with. It doesn't hurt your

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Speaker 6: property value.

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Speaker 12: You own a home, you want to fix that hole

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Speaker 12: in your wall.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 6: I think that that funnels all the way down to

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Speaker 6: even voting. Right, So if you own something, if you

1478
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 6: have a family, if you have things that really matter,

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Speaker 6: you are going to be incentivized to participate in your culture.

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Speaker 6: Whereas if you're not, you just don't really care.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, gen Z has a dearth of purpose. I think

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01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 5: that's what a lot of this boils down to. We've

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Speaker 5: got cultural issues, there's economic problems that are current that

1484
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Speaker 5: people see and they check out. They don't like what's happening.

1485
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Speaker 5: Of course, I think we all feel that there is

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Speaker 5: a hole in so many people in their souls. I

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Speaker 5: you know, for me, I am so incredibly grateful that

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Speaker 5: I have faith, that I'm growing a stronger connection to God,

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Speaker 5: to Jesus, that's my rock. I'm able to know who

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Speaker 5: I am and know that what will happen to me

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Speaker 5: will be, in the long run, a part of a

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Speaker 5: greater plan, something bigger than myself. For people who don't

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Speaker 5: fully commit themselves to do something greater than that, something

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01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 5: something metaphysical, beyond what we are, I I worry about

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Speaker 5: the nihilism that comes from that, because if I didn't

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Speaker 5: have my faith, I would be I think, a completely

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Speaker 5: different person because everything would seem meaningless.

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Speaker 2: And there's a.

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Speaker 5: Serious problem, I think with a lot of people still

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Speaker 5: feeling like they are meaningless. And Charlie, you know, for me,

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Speaker 5: he he absolutely helped me to strengthen my faith, my conviction.

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Speaker 5: And for people who don't have that same sort of connection,

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Speaker 5: I frankly don't.

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Speaker 2: Know what they what, hope they have, what they can do?

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Speaker 2: What do you think can be done?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 14: I mean, you know, gen Z.

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Speaker 4: I think a common threat I've seen is people feel

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Speaker 4: like there's promises that were made by the administration, whether

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Speaker 4: it be Trump failing to release the Epsteine files at

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Speaker 4: first or the economy. I mean, I had to pay

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Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy bucks to fill up my truck

1513
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Speaker 4: the other week, right like I don't think gen Z

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Speaker 4: likes to see that. I shouldn't have to go a

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01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 4: breed of twenty five bucks, right. I think gen Z's economy,

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Speaker 4: I really do think it goes back to the economy

1517
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Speaker 4: and just the quality of life because we were promised

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Speaker 4: a we were promised good economy. Sorry, we were promised

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Speaker 4: low gas prices, low groceries, And I think if things

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Speaker 4: like that start turning up, I really do think it will.

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Speaker 3: So when we talk about that, do you think there's

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Speaker 3: an understanding just basic economics with gen Z? For example,

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Speaker 3: for example, you had, let's just say, for around number

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Speaker 3: sike twenty five percent inflation in four years under Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: You can't turn that around and turn that off. By

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01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 3: the way, getting prices to drop back down in some

1527
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Speaker 3: categories is probably never gonna happen. Yeah, is there a

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Speaker 3: basic understanding about or when you print all this money

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Speaker 3: that it actually inflated asset prices, but it makes people

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Speaker 3: that don't own assets i e. Homes, equities, things like that,

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: it makes them poorer because you know, it makes makes

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Speaker 3: normal basic goods more expensive like these kind of concepts.

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Speaker 2: Are you guys trusting gen Z knows?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: I think you're getting to the point.

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Speaker 10: And I think that the Trump administration in almost all

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 10: respects are doing an incredible job and falling to a

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Speaker 10: lot of promises. But the issue is in our present

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 10: day age and the way the algorithm works is we're

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Speaker 10: allowing the left because they they are on a twenty

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Speaker 10: They are on a twenty four to seven, three hundred

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Speaker 10: and sixty five days a year election cycle. They have

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01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 10: been campaigning for twenty twenty eight, since the day after

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01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 10: the election in twenty twenty four. What we have to

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01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 10: do is, like any bad habit, you don't defeat it

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01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 10: by just erasing it. You replace it. And so we

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01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 10: need conservatives to do I think it's not what Trump

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01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 10: can do it. How can we show people what Trump

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 10: is doing currently? Because there are so many championed things

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01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 10: that you don't see unless you're a TPUSA student and

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01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 10: you're reading, you know, the articles and you're having the

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01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 10: conversations with people who know what is going on and

1553
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 10: you're watching the right podcast. They don't have that, you know,

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01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 10: students are just watching these base lists, and we know

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 10: the left doesn't have the IQ to have some of

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01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 10: these intelligent conversations. They just want to put out this slop,

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01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 10: as we call it, the internet slop. They want you

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01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 10: to scroll and read that rather than actually knowing the truth.

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01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 10: And if we could put on display the incredible things

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01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 10: that Trump is doing in gen Z language, like the

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01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 10: the Trump accounts.

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Speaker 14: Like those are incredible.

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01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 10: Let's put those on display more in a language that

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01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,959
Speaker 10: gen Z can understand, and they'll see all the incredible

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 10: things and it will be replaced it happens to twenty four.

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Speaker 15: I agree, And look, let's look at this from a

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:15:59,480
Speaker 15: wide perspective.

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01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 13: Under President Trump.

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01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 9: You know, very low unemployment rate, stock market is doing

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01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 9: extremely well right now, and I think the most important

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 9: thing when we look into our future, economic development within

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01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 9: the past year and a half has done exceedingly well,

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01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 9: and that contributes towards our future.

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01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 13: Now, the moment that I believe that this war is.

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Speaker 9: Done in Iran, I think that'll have a positive impact

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01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 9: on what I call the now economy, what we currently see.

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01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 9: So what President Trump needs to focus on is communicating

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01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 9: to the American people that our top priority is getting

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01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 9: this war and Iran over with, and I think that

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01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 9: will really help support him with the independence and a

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01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 9: lot of the Republicans who voted for him, who are

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01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 9: upset with some of the policies he's put in place, because.

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Speaker 2: More specifically young men.

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01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the key of this conversation, they think is,

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01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 3: you know, young men were so enthusiastic.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget going around with Charlie in twenty twenty four, Blake,

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01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 2: remember this and.

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01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 3: To see a red hats all these young men like

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01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: basically being like the other party is a bunch of

1590
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 3: weak ninnies like Kamala, what are we gonna do here?

1591
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: Beta males, and then like Trump is like masculine and strong.

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01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna come through.

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01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 3: But at some point there was a disconnect, and I

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01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 3: don't know if it was Epstein or if it was Charlie. Yeah,

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01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 3: Charlie passing, yeah for sure at least sustaining it. But

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01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 3: we were already talking about this with Charlie. Charlie was

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01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 3: very keenly aware after Epstein and Midnight Hammer that there

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01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 3: was some of the support was flagging, right, So the

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Speaker 3: you know, I just it's you're saying, you're saying it's

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Speaker 3: a messaging thing. You're saying, it's getting it back into

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01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 3: the jet stream.

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01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 10: When two weeks before Charlie passed I spoke to a

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01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 10: leadership congress and my speech was about the work he

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01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 10: did and how that has won us twenty twenty four,

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01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 10: that won us the next generation. And at the end

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01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 10: of that speech, I said, the entire purpose is to

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01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 10: keep hope for a generation, to keep fighting because the

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01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 10: cause is going on. I did not realize the work

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01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 10: God was doing in my life at that moment, because

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01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 10: two weeks later, when Charlie passed, it was a Downstrom

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01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 10: effect that we started to lose this voice of unity

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01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 10: and reason, and we spoke about it. How you know

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01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 10: how much a leader can change a movement, And I

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01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 10: think we need to revive how Charlie did it, Like

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01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 10: I think we're fighting this fight within turning point and

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01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 10: it's just something we're having to learn as chapter leaders.

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01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 10: How do we be like Charlie in our community? How

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01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 10: did he lose these things? And I think it's not

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01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 10: following the clips of you know, Charlie owning these very

1620
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 10: very ignorant people. It's where he has the genuine conversations

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01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 10: with the transgender student who is struggling with their identity

1622
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:02,839
Speaker 10: and the person who's struggling with understanding why we're mistreating

1623
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 10: immigrants and the genuinely misinformed people who he just educated

1624
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 10: and had these important conversations. That's that's the movement, and

1625
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 10: that's why so many young men and young women followed

1626
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 10: him was because he made you feel like you knew

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01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 10: what was going on and.

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01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 2: He had an authority with his voice too. People.

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01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 3: So the white pillar for me here listening to you guys,

1630
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 3: is that there is so much green space here for

1631
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 3: people to speak the truth. Yes, to tell the truth

1632
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 3: to a generation that's getting lied to so much now

1633
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: that the how is a really interesting and it's a

1634
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: really interesting challenge.

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01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm being told we need to wrap up. I have

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01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 2: one last question for you, just curious as we look

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01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty eight. You guys are conservative young men.

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01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 3: Is there somebody that you're thinking that you would like

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01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 3: to run for president in twenty twenty eight.

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01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 2: There's no right or wrong answer. I'm not trying to

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01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 2: dance or Rubio Okay, fans or Rubio fans or Rubio.

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01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,480
Speaker 13: Actually there's a lot of time, but i'd say right now, Marco.

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01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 14: Yeah, I feel like Ruby's leading, but I can see

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01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 14: Vance taking.

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01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 8: It as well. Yeah, No, I think I don't know

1646
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 8: if that's in the time now, but I would say

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01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 8: Rubio more realistic.

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01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: Interesting, Well that went slightly different than I anticipated.

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01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 3: Do you feel like that's amongst your chapters, Like it's

1650
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 3: a discussion, it's a discussion.

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01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 4: Well, I've had a couple of conversations with people about that,

1652
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 4: just between the two of them, Like, they're both really

1653
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 4: strong candidates, and so people we've just gone back.

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01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 3: And forth, so like kind of like a fifty to

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01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 3: fifty what you say, yea and like, but it's it's

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01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 3: safe to say it's not negative on one or no, it's.

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01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 5: Like it because they're both positively both strong figures, strong candidates,

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 5: strong leaders.

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01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 4: Anyone.

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01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 6: Anyone who wants Rubio would be fine with Fancy anyone

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01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 6: who wants.

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01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 14: I agree, Yeah, it's more about tone.

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01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 10: I think that somebody was explaining to me that they

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01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 10: really like kind of a common sense tone that Marco

1665
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 10: brings to it. And then other people tell me they

1666
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 10: love how JD can get fired up and he can

1667
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 10: you know, just own someone.

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01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 2: He's really good.

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01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,759
Speaker 3: They're both really good actually, but JD has really impressed

1670
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,719
Speaker 3: me with his going into enemy territory.

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01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 11: Yeah, all quality meme templates.

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01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.

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01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 6: I love.

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01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 13: Every day j D.

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01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 9: JD is still young, and and the reason I said

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01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 9: Marco as of right now is because JD can do

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01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 9: great things in our Senate. JD can connect to gen

1678
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 9: Z very well, and I think he may even be

1679
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 9: able to do more positive work on the outside than

1680
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 9: in the inside because gen Z respects JD vance so much.

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01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 9: And I think Marco I think he's even keeled. I

1682
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 9: think he's very professional. But to be honest, I think

1683
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 9: we're all content with whether it's j D or Rubio.

1684
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 9: I think they're too great candidate.

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01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: What if it was j D and Marco. I'm just.

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01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 6: Optimistic looking at us where we have a great slate

1687
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 6: of candidates, and then looking at the Democrats.

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Speaker 14: Were campaign, I think.

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01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 3: This is a great way to end it because the

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01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 3: future is bright. Charlie always believed in that, as Blake said,

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01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 3: he did not believe.

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Speaker 2: In black pilling.

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01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 3: That was our one rule on the show, no black

1694
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 3: pilling ever. And you know, and I will say that

1695
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 3: JD has just been phenomenal honoring Charlie.

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01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 2: I really respect the heck.

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01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 10: Out of him for that.

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01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyways, guys, this was really fantastic stuff. You have

1699
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 3: to get the band back together next year at CLS.

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Speaker 8: This is I love it.

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01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 3: I love it.

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01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: Let's do it all right, guys. Talk to you guys soon.

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Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 4: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com