1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Life audio friends. Maybe you are looking at your social 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: media feed and you're seeing everybody and love and you're like, 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm just single and waiting and what is God doing. 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about future husband Present prayers and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: what God can really be up to in this season. 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, let's dive in, let's talk about it. Hello. Hello, Hello, 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: ladies and gents, and welcome to this week's episode of 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: The Bottom Beloved Podcast. As always, it's your girl Kirby 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Kelly back at it again. And I know that it's February. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: I know that it's like the month of love, and 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: maybe you're like all into that, right, Maybe you have 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: a boyfriend or a girlfriend or a spousand it's like 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: everything's great, or maybe you're single and you're like, dang, 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: another season of dread. I don't know where you lie 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: on the spectrum for this month specifically, but I'm really 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: excited to dive into this topic with my guest today, 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Christian and Bavier. She wrote a book. It's called Future 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: Husband Present Prayers, and I love the tagline for it too. 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: It says how praying while you wait transforms your singleness 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: and prepares you for marriage, and that is what we're 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about in today's episode, and I'm super 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: excited about that. It is timely and her book just 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: has so many encouraging words of wisdom that I was like, Dang, 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: I really gotta use this in certain seasons of my 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: own singleness in my own life. But hey, the book 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: exists now and that's what matters. But before we even 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: dive into that and just talk about this topic today, Christian, 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. Can you introduce yourself to the 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: people out there who are listening today, maybe who you are, 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: what you do, what you're passionate about. 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you so much for having me Kirby, 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: and I have to say you having Kirby, Kelly. 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: And Boughton beloved. Your rhythm is just so nice today. 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: My name is a little bit like how do you 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: spell that? Like what language is that? It's Italian last name, 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: so it's okay if you can't spell it or pronounce it. 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: But I'm Christian Pavier. 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm part of our big crazy Italian by marriage family. 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: We do ministry. 40 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: We write books. Apparently that's like a thing once you 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: get married. It's like, are you interested in writing? Okay, 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: you can. 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 3: Get married. 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: But it's just so it's so great. I've gleaned so 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: much from my own marriage. Honestly, from my time of dating, 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: well I have my time of dating not. 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: So well, and then that time of transformative dating that 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: really led to writing this book. 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: And I've also gleaned from my husband and from my 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: family and just watching how you know, the orchestration of 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: marriage is this beautiful gleaning and transformation process. It is 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: ministry in and of itself to you know, refine you, 53 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: sharpen you, and then point back to Jesus. And so 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: that's why I'm so passionate about this topic. One because 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: I've experienced how to do it without God's blessing and 56 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: how to do it with His instruction, and I just 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: see it as such a crucial thing in our world, 58 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: especially to do well if we're going to do it. 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: But then also you know, it's we see it as 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: the example. 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: For Christ in his bride. 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: We see this throughout scripture, so I know it's important 63 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: to the Lord's heart and I know that he can 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: move into in it. So that's kind of why we're 65 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: here talking about this book, because you know, there's people 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: that know the practicalities of dating especially post COVID and 67 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: all that way better than I do. But I basically 68 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: have a testimony of, Hey, the Lord can move in 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: this he wants to, and I think it's important and 70 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: worth talking about. 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: So thank you for creating space to do that. 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: Girl anytime when Amanda, we have the same pr person. 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: Whenever she hit my inbox with this, I was like, 74 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: let's get her on, let's talk about this, And then 75 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: reading the book, I was like, yeah, we definitely need 76 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: to dive into all of this. But I'm wondering for you, 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: what moment or even season maybe like first stirred this 78 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: idea for future husband present prayers? Like why did this 79 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: message feel urgent for you to share right now? Like 80 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: why was it like, Okay, this is the topic I 81 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: want to talk about. This is the time in the 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: season in which I want to talk about this thing. 83 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I mean the timing. I'm one of those 84 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: just in life where I'm like, I have the vision. 85 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: I'm very blessed that my husband has a download of timing, 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: which I think is just a great thing appearing together, 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: I'll say, Hey. 88 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: The Lord put this vision or we're gonna move to 89 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: this place. It's gonna happen. He's like, okay, great. In 90 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: the Lord's timing, I was like, but I got the downloads, 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: so like, let's go. It's a beautiful partnership. 92 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: And honestly been such a trust exercise early in our 93 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: marriage when I would receive something or he'd receive something, 94 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: and like having to trust the Lord not just to speak, 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: but to speak through your partner. Yeah, that's a great 96 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: preemptive lesson for the singles out there. I was like, yeah, 97 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: you can love your husband, but then you gotta trust 98 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: to let go. 99 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: And him speak into things. 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: So timing to me, I'm very much a visionary, and 101 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: then it's interesting for me. 102 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: I feel like the Lord's like, I'm going to give 103 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: you something, but you got away. 104 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: And so this a heartbeat for this message started eight 105 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: years ago when I was single and. 106 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: I had a girlfriend. At the time. 107 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: We had both gone to college, spent all the money, 108 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: got the heartbreaks, our friends are getting the jobs, are 109 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: getting married, and then we both move home, meet each 110 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: other and we're like, oh my goodness, you too, Like 111 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: let's eat ice cream together, like be sad for a 112 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: moment and then get you know, pull our bridges back 113 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: up and get focused. And that was such a treasured friendship. 114 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: She became one of my bridesmaids later on. But we 115 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: just said, Okay, we both have this desire to be married. 116 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: We both have done dating, not even like terribly bad, 117 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: but it just hasn't been like this peace filled. Obviously, 118 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: the results haven't happened the way that they should, so like, 119 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: how can we do dating and this longing differently without 120 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: being sorrowful, without being resentful, without being disappointed. 121 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: And that led. 122 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: To us like, hey, let's get Bibles and write letters 123 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: to each other's future husbands that start praying for our 124 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: future husband. 125 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: And it was really catalytic to just seeing singleness in 126 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: a different way. 127 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: And you know, having this faith of Okay, well, I 128 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: know all the guys that live here. I don't know 129 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: if there's anyone else that I would date. So it 130 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: seems like on paper nothing's going to work. But I 131 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: have this hope that's an anchor for my soul, right 132 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: Like I'm believing for something that I do not yet know. 133 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: Even if it doesn't come, I'm going to sit in 134 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: this posture of I'm believing for the better thing instead 135 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: of moving out of a place of settling or regret. 136 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: You know, or any of those things, which is so 137 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: easy to do. 138 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that like I'm saying that from experience, 139 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: and so that's really where it started. But for the 140 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: last few years, you know, I just thought that was 141 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: a really sweet thing the Lord did for me. Found 142 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: that I would share little snippets here and there, and 143 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: it would just catch wind of women that wanted something 144 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: similar of like I want God to move in my 145 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: you know, my deepest desires. I don't want to hold 146 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: those to myself, or I do really. 147 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: Want to get married. I want a Kingdom honoring marriage. 148 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: And so it's just been the spurring effect and it 149 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: led to the Dear Future Husband podcasts. 150 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: And from there I'd share. 151 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: And people like, what do you what's a husband's Bible? 152 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: Like how do I do that? And I'd say, oh, go. 153 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: On Amazon and pray in a bible. They're like, no, 154 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: I need more like understating. 155 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know what, We're going to write 156 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: the Future Husband Present Prayers Book, which is basically a 157 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: friend and friend guide of hey, here's why you should pray, 158 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: why you actually are allowed to pray for your. 159 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: Future husband, how to do that? 160 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: And then I wrote the Dear Future Husband Prayer Journal, 161 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: which is prompts and topics even placed to write your 162 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: vowels and really just bless that man that you're believing 163 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: for and give it to him on your wedding day, 164 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: which is what I did and really the highlight of. 165 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: My wedding day. That's so sweet. 166 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: I love. 167 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: But I did backstory for you. 168 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: I know that's awesome. You're giving the context for it 169 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people relate to. And 170 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: I know in your book something that you talk about 171 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: that is this is like one of those like Christian 172 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: things of like I'm just in a season of waiting 173 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: and it's like girl for how long? Like God for 174 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: how long? And it's like the waiting season can kind 175 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: of be like this thing that we can dread or 176 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: that we can you even use the word like resent 177 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: and I think that that's something that we can even 178 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: grow in resentment, even towards God in of you know, 179 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: God's perfect timing. Crickets. I'm still waiting for this thing though, God, 180 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: and it's like there's so much that can happen within 181 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: the waiting. But in the book you talk about turning 182 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: passive waiting into active transformation. And I would love if 183 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: you could maybe just speak to the listeners today about 184 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: what waiting well actually looks like, you know, on a 185 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: Tuesday night when the loneliness hits and you're eating your 186 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: ice cream and all your friends are posting about them 187 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: hanging with their boyfriends or their husbands or whatever, Like, 188 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: how do we go from this like passive waiting into 189 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: active transformation in that season? 190 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, such a loaded conversation, and I love to start 191 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: off with, Hey, I did not do this well. This 192 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: is not my nature. So it's not that I'm writing 193 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: from this place of like. 194 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: Oh honey, figure it out. Yes girl, I know. 195 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: So the people listening, maybe let's just take a deep breath, 196 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: uncross our arms. 197 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: Let those shoulders slump up. 198 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: I know, like even hearing waiting it can just bring 199 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: this like tension with it, so like, yeah, it's uncomfortable 200 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: because we don't have the answer. And I feel like 201 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: so much within our society right now, like are in 202 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: a grade of making you know, even just go in 203 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: the grocery store, it's like, Okay, I got my list, 204 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go in. I'm gonna get in it, have 205 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: my car, Like it's so systematic yes and hurried, and 206 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: like we're really all the dopamine driven where it's like, okay, 207 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: checking the box is just as fulfillings, like getting whatever. 208 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: That box was. 209 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: And so we really are rewiring ourselves not just for 210 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: the desire for marriage, but when it comes to having children, 211 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: when it comes to your career, Like this is something 212 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: I think systematically not innate to ourselves, but it's it's 213 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: been wired in especially the Western culture, you know, maybe 214 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: it's not so much in the other cultures. My family, 215 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: like I said, there a time, you know, like we just. 216 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: Need to go to Italy and like we wouldn't. 217 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: Be stressed at all because they're watching the water and 218 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: eating pasta. 219 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: They're fine, but over here we're just we're cracked out 220 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: on stress. 221 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: And so I want to say that to alleviate someone 222 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: that feels like, hey, maybe it's just me, like have 223 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: a I shouldn't have this desire, right, I think we 224 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: can go so counterclockwise of well, if this waiting season 225 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: feels hard, and maybe it's because God hasn't called me 226 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: to get married, that could be the reality. But my 227 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: Bible says that you know, the Lord joins people together 228 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: and that he has to give grace with the people 229 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: that are single. So if you have this desire to 230 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: get married, I would much rather you as your virtual 231 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 2: friend here sipping coffee with you. I'd much rather you 232 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: contend for that and ask God for it. And if 233 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: he says no, I want to direct you to something better, 234 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: he will direct you to something better. But if we're 235 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: just covering ourselves saying well, maybe I'm I'm the problem, 236 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: or I shouldn't do this, or it's easier to cast 237 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: it off, right, Like those are hard questions to wrestle with. 238 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: But it is such like this, this comfort blanket in 239 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: a way of you know, we don't want to get 240 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: hurt asking for something. 241 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: And I get that. 242 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again it's been so many seasons, so I 243 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: think if we can learn to do this, well, we're 244 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: not this subclass of like, oh you poor single, you 245 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 2: have to learn this. But it's like waiting is it's 246 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: a part of the Christian experience. We're waiting on Christ's return, 247 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: we're waiting on heaven. So this, you know, perseverance leads 248 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: to all these things. The Bible says this in so 249 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: many ways, and so I think seeing it as not 250 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: a me problem but it's this conditioning, right, we'll enable 251 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: our minds to even be open to the idea of 252 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: waiting well. And when we talk in the book, I 253 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: talk about passive and active waiting from this idea of 254 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: you know, when we feelink we're just waiting on something 255 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: to arrive, like the package is just coming to the door, 256 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: then we're just kind of sitting there on our hands 257 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: not really doing anything, ye like when is it coming? 258 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: But if we realize I have this partnership in this experience, 259 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: whether that is okay, the Lord's gonna tell me to 260 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: go somewhere to find that package, or he's going to 261 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: do you know, something beautiful within me, whether that's internal healing, 262 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: whether that's you know, emotional resilience, where he wants you. 263 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: To cultivate something as that person comes. 264 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: I honestly, I think that's I would prefer to be 265 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: the woman because we can get the waiting of not 266 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: I had to take the stress of, like finding the person. 267 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: He who finds a wife finds a good thing, right, yep. 268 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: I can oh, okay, God, where you call me to 269 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: go today? 270 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: Cool? I can do that. 271 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: That's not as hard as going to find the perfect person, 272 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: Like I just get to work on this vessel that 273 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: you put inside me. 274 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: And so active waiting is praying. 275 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: It's this Hebrews eleven model of you know, faith is 276 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: what we have not seen yet, but working and living 277 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: in such a way. 278 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: As if it already is here. 279 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: It's this confidence of you know, God, You're not going 280 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: to give me any ill gift. If I ask for something, 281 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: You're gonna give it to me. Even better, So this 282 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: trust and this faith exercise which takes this activation and 283 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: daily walking out in all these in all the ways 284 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: that we live. 285 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: Honestly, I love that you even bring up like the 286 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: idea of settling, because I think that is one of 287 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: the biggest temptations in our waiting, is to either manufacture 288 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: a result out of our own effort and striving and 289 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: what is just simply convenient or comfortable to us. And 290 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: in settling, not to demean the person that maybe you 291 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: have settled for in the past, because you know, we're 292 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: all made in the image of God, will have that 293 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: innate value. It's like, like you said, you're you're settling 294 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: for maybe what you would say, like, well, this thing 295 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: is good enough, but like is it really from God? 296 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: Like being married now for five years with a baby 297 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: on the way, which is crazy. It's like, I'm so 298 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: thankful that God took his time in bringing my husband 299 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: and I together because there was so much that needed 300 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: to be done in me, there was so much that 301 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: needed to be done in him that when we met 302 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: were with these perfect, complete people where it was like, 303 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: now we're perfect people and we can get married. No, 304 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: but we were more prepared people for one another when 305 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: we did get married, when we started dating even and 306 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: working through some of those things. So looking back, this 307 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: is something that I say all the time, and it's 308 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: actually a famous quote. I forget who said it, But 309 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: life makes more sense in reverse, like moving forward, it's 310 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: like what are you doing? What is the timeline? What 311 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: is God up to? But when you actually look in 312 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: reverse at what God did, I mean like remove dating 313 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: and singleness and all that, like from your point of 314 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: view for a second, but just in your own life, 315 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: like maybe with your job, or with your school, or 316 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: with something else that you've prayed for, looking back at 317 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: God's timing, it's like, wow, it really was perfect. I'm 318 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: glad that I waited. I'm glad that I trusted or 319 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: maybe even have the perspective of man, I should have waited, 320 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: I should have trusted. It's like you can glean from 321 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: all of those experiences and apply it as you were 322 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: saying Christian to every area of life and knowing that 323 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: the idea of marriage, of joining your life with someone 324 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: else's is not just like one of the most important decisions, 325 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: but is a sacred decision. I think that we need 326 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: to really emphasize waiting and refusing to settle, not having 327 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: unrealistic expectations, but refusing to settle for what isn't of God. 328 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: So I love that you even kind of touch on 329 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: that and talk about that. I kind of want to 330 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: shift gears for a second, because another strong theme that 331 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: you write about in the book is bringing God into 332 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: the conversation before emotions take over. And I know that 333 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: especially if you've been waiting and kind of talking about 334 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: what I just said here of even settling. It's like 335 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: emotions can really make headway in these areas where we 336 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: make end up making rash decisions, or we end up compromising, 337 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: or we end up I don't know, jeopardizing certain things. 338 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: So why is early prayer such a game changer in 339 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: dating and discernment? Like why is establishing this routine and 340 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: rhythm and discipline of prayer important when it comes to 341 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: those moments where emotion might want to get the better 342 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: of us and start steering the rudder of the ship. 343 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, such a great analogy too. And I love that 344 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: you talked about settling because it really goes in we 345 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: have to have the vision right, like Hobacka says, write 346 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: the vision, make it clear so that. 347 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: They may run who read it. 348 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: And so I think this idea of prayer and you know, 349 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: whether it's a checklist, any of those things that go 350 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: in with the settling and the determination and evaluation saying 351 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: we have to be working from something or we'll be 352 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: going off of emotions or trendy like what's what's the 353 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: trendy guy out there? Like the guy right now, who's 354 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: the famous actor? What should I be looking for? 355 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: Right? 356 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: We're all tuned in why or to be looking for something? 357 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: And if we don't take the time to set that up, 358 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: where we're going off of other people's words or emotions 359 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: or misconceptions or our own hopes, really and disappointments can 360 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: be feeling that decision. And I've you know, the whole 361 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 2: idea and especially in the Christian world. I think it's 362 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: like kind of a toss up of like, is there 363 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: a one or is it like any free will choice 364 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: is blessed if we're believers. I'm kind of leaning to 365 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: the first of that. The Lord does want to orchestrate 366 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: a beautiful relationship. And there are so many amazing people 367 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 2: that I know. I have amazing brother in laws, I 368 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: have amazing friends that have great husbands. Would I be 369 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: married to one of those people and and be successful? 370 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: I don't think so. Like love you, that's great, love 371 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: y'all as a. 372 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: Partner, but I think there is something more intricate and 373 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: design and specific to our partnerships, and so I do 374 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: believe bring the Lord into that, Like, Lord, what kind 375 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: of partner are you wanting to paer me with? 376 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: What does settling look like for me? Settling seems like, oh. 377 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: Well, that person's just not attractive enough or make enough money, 378 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: they're not six foot in finance and all that stuff. 379 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: Settling is less than the best that the God that 380 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: God has for you. And that could look like on paper. 381 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: I'm just going there. It could look like less than 382 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: what you wanted, but it could actually be better for you. 383 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: It could be a harder. 384 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: Wow, we're gonna have to date longer, or we're long distance, 385 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: or there's something we have to come about where this 386 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 2: person's here and easier. Right, So settling isn't just a 387 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: grading system of you're you're not. 388 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 3: A ten and I want your nine, but I need 389 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: a ten. 390 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: It's I really need to invite the Lord in this, 391 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: because one his ways are higher than our ways. His 392 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 2: wisdom exceeds our own, and I know that one of 393 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: those the most important decisions I'll make earth side, I 394 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: need wisdom more than my own. When my husband reached 395 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: out to me, I threw my phone back of the car. 396 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: I was driving really slow, but yes, I was driving. 397 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: And looking at my phone. I was at a red 398 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: light almost almost almost. 399 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: Years. 400 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: I don't think you can arrest me anymore. 401 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: But I threw the phone in the back of my 402 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: car and said, Lord, I've made a mess of my emotions. 403 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: I've made a mess of you know, relationships that I 404 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: knew were not great, and then some that really could 405 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: have been great contenders, and we're great people. I don't 406 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: want to make a mess of any other relationships. So 407 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 2: before I give my yes, even to a date, I 408 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: need you to guide me because the next guy that 409 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: I actually date, like seriously date, needs to be my husband. 410 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: Any maybe think Christian. 411 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: That sounds really legalistic, but I said that from a 412 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: place of reverence of I do not have the wisdom 413 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: needed to do this thing called dating, and I really 414 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: need you to guide me. And I believe that you 415 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: will give me peace for this, yes or not? And 416 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: so you know, everyone's story is different. I love talking 417 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: about relationships and dating. There is no shoe that fits all. 418 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how you and your husband met, Kirby, 419 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: but it's like the Lord does something specific. Maybe your 420 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: friends for years, Maybe you knew each other from school. 421 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: Maybe you meet and fall in love right away and 422 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: get engaged in three months like we did and you're crazy. 423 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: Okay, good good. 424 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: Maybe there is a formula nevermind, but it takes this, 425 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: you know. I think that the Lord meets us in 426 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: that he wants to give us wisdom. You know who, 427 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: who of us that ask him draw near? He will 428 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: not answer right, And so I do believe that you 429 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: want to have this preempt of knowing. Because my husband, 430 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: he's more direct than I was. He he wasn't the 431 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: like creative on paper that I usually had gone for. 432 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: But he has the. 433 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: Necessities to partner with me in such a way where 434 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: we sharpen one another. Yes, we make informed decisions. We 435 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: you know, we we do have fun and enjoyment and excitement, 436 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: but we also push each other out of our comfort zones. 437 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: And so I believe that the Lord has that for 438 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: everyone watching that will get married. There are specific attributes 439 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: that he wants to partner with us in. And you know, 440 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: when the disciples are casting lots for who would fill 441 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: the position who would be that twelfth apostle, now they're like, 442 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: let's just pull lots and like, you know, these are 443 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: all great people, let's pull one. And the Lord's like, no, actually, 444 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: I've set aside someone for this role. And so I 445 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: think that can be similar to our approach of there's 446 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: a lot of cute guys of my church like. 447 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: Let me just eeny medium mineym. But there's more to that. 448 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: And I think even if, like you said, even if 449 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: we have done it wrong with good intentions or like, well, 450 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: these are all great people, invite the Lord in like, actually, Lord, 451 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: have you already. 452 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: Appointed someone for this role of my husband? 453 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Have you appointed me for a role of someone's wife 454 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: that I could actually be pouring into myself. I can 455 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: be healing, I can let you into areas of my heart, 456 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: you know, Like there's just such a there's such a 457 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: divineness and intentionality, Like this person is not just going 458 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: to be your cute arm candy. They're going to be 459 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: the father of your children. They're going to be your 460 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: partner for life. And so I think that the more 461 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: wisdom we let in will never regret those informed decisions 462 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: along the way. 463 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and something that my husband, Richard and I talk 464 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: about all the time, Like I feel like we have 465 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: this conversation at least once a week, probably three times 466 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: maybe more, where we're just we just looked at each 467 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: other and it's like, I'm so glad that God allowed 468 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: us to get married. Not just because you're literally the 469 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: most attractive man I've ever seen in my life, and 470 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, like Google gaga over you and all the 471 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: all the fun feelings of being in love, but I'm like, 472 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: I think back to the seasons of life that he 473 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: and I have gone through, like we did long distance 474 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: and going through COVID and all these things, it was 475 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: like we we learned so much about each other and 476 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: in commitment and devotion to one another and in our 477 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: dating season, but especially in marriage. Like two years ago, 478 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: I lost my mom and it was like very sudden traumatic. 479 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: She was an addict. So it's like even navigating those things, 480 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: like I have a brother with autism, like, uh, I'm 481 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: his caregiver, like legally all those things. So it's like 482 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: there were all these nuances to my life and it's 483 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: like looking back, it's like my husband worked for a 484 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: couple of years for like a company with children and 485 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: adults with autism. It's like he had that background and 486 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: it was like wow, God, like the little nuances of 487 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: what would come to be one day. It's like these 488 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: responsibilities that I knew I would take on one day. 489 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: It's like I have a husband who is actually prepared 490 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: for those things. I would have never thought to pray. 491 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: About those things. 492 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: But God was intentional enough in every little detail that 493 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: the person that I ended up marrying really meshes so 494 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: well into the life I have, and not only that, 495 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: I mesh well into the life he has. And that's 496 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: just one small example of like him him fitting into 497 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: the framework that God has for my life, the responsibilities 498 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: he has for me, and the same goes vice versa, 499 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: and it's just God is when you really surrender in 500 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: your intentional to trusting him of Like, Okay, there are 501 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 1: things that will come up in my life. There are 502 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: things within me that every married person probably relate to this. 503 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: It's like, I didn't realize that I was struggling with this. 504 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I needed to be so refined 505 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: in this area of my life. 506 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: People don't do the work now, so you don't have 507 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: to explain to something. 508 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: Girl, you're telling me about this, But there's things that 509 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: only get revealed as well in marriage when you're in 510 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: close proximity with the same person every day. And it's like, man, God, 511 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm thankful that I'm married to this person because not 512 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: only does he reveal this thing within me, he loves 513 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: me through it and wants me to walk out freedom, healing, redemption, restoration, 514 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: all these things in the areas where I do lack, 515 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: in the areas where I do struggle, in the areas 516 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: where it's like, are you being the most christ Like here? 517 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: It's just you, none of us, even me, Like ten 518 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: five years from now, ten years from now, we don't 519 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: have the perspective of what will happen, but God does. 520 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: And that's why surrender in inviting him in is so 521 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: important and being prayerful is so important because only God 522 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: knows the nuances of what you need in a partner 523 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: for specific seasons and for specific reasons in your life. 524 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: So I love that you talk about that in the book. 525 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: Another thing you talk about that I love, uh, is 526 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: you write about praying without becoming obsessed, without becoming obsessed 527 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: about you know, the future and your partner and all 528 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: those things. So how can someone pray boldly for marriage 529 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: while still holding their desires with open hands? Because I 530 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: know that there are some people who might have we 531 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: kind of touched on this, like these expectations or maybe 532 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: even an obsession of like this is how it has 533 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: to look, like this is how it has to go, 534 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: and it's like that's it's almost consuming their every thought, 535 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: and it's like, how do we begin to like pray 536 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: these things boldly? But also like okay, girl, peel back 537 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: the fingers a little bit, Let God move, let God work, 538 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: let him reprioritize some things. 539 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: Maybe. Yeah, it's so good. 540 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: And I do think that's the number one reason that 541 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: a lot of people don't pray for their spells. It's 542 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: because they hear you're going to make it an idol 543 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: or you're going to become obsessed. But the amount of 544 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: things I've prayed for Kirby where I've prayed for them 545 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: and then I thought, oh, I actually need to pray 546 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: for that more. I mean, when it's for your healing 547 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: for a family member, right, you don't to say, okay, 548 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: bless them all right, that's it, because then maybe they'll 549 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: get too healed. You're right, there's no These caveats that 550 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: we put on relationships are not the same as other 551 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 2: areas that we pray into. I do think there are 552 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: some really practical steps. One thing I advise people to 553 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: do when they're praying is don't put a name on it, 554 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: even if you're dating someone. I've seen women that I've 555 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 2: walked with that do this and they're dating someone, and 556 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: I've had like a little inkling of like, hmm, it's okay, I. 557 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 3: Don't know, like they're gonna pray. The Lord's going to 558 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: show them right, and the. 559 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: Lord would say that's not the person they'd be praying 560 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: for their future husband and the relationship would end. 561 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: And so I think when we don't put a name 562 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 3: on it. 563 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 2: We don't, like you said, get emotionally invested to the 564 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: this is how who is going to be and this 565 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: is how it's. 566 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 3: Going to be. 567 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: And so I kept my prayers anonymous until the week 568 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 2: of our wedding, like even in engagement, like I would 569 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: pray for Arden and then I'm like, okay, Lord, b's 570 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: my future husband, you know, like we started single as dating, 571 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: I just kept this idea of Okay, Lord, I'm praying 572 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: for my husband, and I'm not going to try to 573 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 2: like lace in little details here. 574 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: I want those details to come from you. So the 575 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: Lord gave me. 576 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: He gave me visions of what my husband would look like. 577 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: He gave me specific things to intercede for him for. 578 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: And what I love, Kirby, is that those aligned the 579 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 2: more I got to know Ardent, rather than Okay, I'm 580 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: getting to know Ardent and I'm trying to put him in. 581 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: This place, if that makes sense. 582 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: That yeah, So without becoming obsessed, you know, like, don't 583 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: don't try to force a name on it. Maybe you're 584 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: single and you're like, well, how do I not get 585 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 2: obsessed when I don't have a vision or a boyfriend 586 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: to put a name on it, keep it as something 587 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: like I would make sure I have my like me 588 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: and Christian God time. 589 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: Before I prayed for my husband. 590 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: I need to keep this in the alignment of like 591 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: God is my first love, I need to go to 592 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: him first just to even be filled up to pray 593 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: for someone else, Like I want my cup to run 594 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: it over, rather than like my cup to be filled 595 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: by this hope of just being a wife. 596 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 3: Because wife me is a version of me. It's not 597 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 3: all of me, it's not my status, it's not my identity. 598 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: And so praying without becoming obsessed, like you know, there's 599 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: I think everybody's personality is different. Again for me, like 600 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: I catch one of a vision and I get so excited, 601 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: and so like I start up here, I'm more prone 602 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: to like dwindle down as I go in. Some people 603 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: may be the opposite, and so like when I get 604 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: too excited about something, I know that about myself, and 605 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: so I say, Okay, I'm gonna pump the brakes a 606 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: little bit. Maybe I need to go go on a 607 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 2: walk first, Like I want to keep praying for this 608 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: thing because I want to keep being guided in it. 609 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: But I don't want to become obsessed. 610 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: So I think it also takes this intentionality of knowing yourself, like, 611 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: am I open to the Lord's timeline? 612 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: Am I getting ahead of myself? 613 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean to like abandon, It just says okay, God, 614 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: like even as the Father and Mark nine like, I 615 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: have faith, but give me more faith, Like, give me 616 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: more faith to do this process. Well, give me more 617 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: patience to do this in your timeline, give me more 618 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: dedication to pray more. Maybe you're like, I'm not obsessed. 619 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: I'm kind of fading out over here. It's been a while, 620 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm tired of praying, right, So I think that idea 621 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: of you know, let the Lord. 622 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: Stearch your heart. 623 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: Let him show you what it looks like to have 624 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: faith in this way, how to pray. We see Hannah 625 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: in the Bible. She prayed out for thirteen years, it's believed, 626 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: And I mean she probably could have been labeled as obsessed, 627 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: like Eli could have been like this girl looks drunk. 628 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: She is so obsessed with praying for a child. But 629 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: it's through that. 630 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: Process that the Lord remembered her prayers and opened her womb. 631 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: And so I don't want people to get discouraged from 632 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: those comments. Of well, you can't keep praying for that, 633 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: you absolutely can. We see that the Lord hears the 634 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: prayers as the righteous that it says to pray without seizing, 635 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: So come to him. You know, if your heart and 636 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: your emotions start getting lined in that like it's almost 637 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: like overcoming. Yes, let's peel back the layers a little bit. 638 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: Let's get back to the heart of the issue. But 639 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: don't stop praying just because you know there's flesh involved 640 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: with the person praying. That's gonna happen for everyone and 641 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: in different ways, So sort that out. 642 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: But let God still be in the midst of what 643 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: you're praying for. 644 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: That's so good Christian. Yeah, and what's so good about 645 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: like God really everything let's start there is that. I 646 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: love that you even bring up the fact that it's 647 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: like he remembers, He remembers our prayers and thinking about 648 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: that thirteen years of waiting, like that's a long time, 649 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: and maybe there's someone listening today and it's like, yeah, 650 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: that's me. I'm literally going on at third day there. 651 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: I just want you to know that you can keep 652 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: desiring those things and bringing them to the Lord. But 653 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: I even just want to challenge people in this not 654 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: to say that your prayers are bad or wrong or 655 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: anything like that. That is not what I'm saying, so 656 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: hear me loud and clear. But to continue to trust God, 657 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: like you said Christian as your first love. To make 658 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: sure that you know, even as a married person, that 659 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: God is enough. God is enough. He is my first love. 660 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: He is the one who sustains me. And if I'm 661 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: gonna use the word if, and if he brings someone 662 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: into our life to join with us, to partner with us, 663 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: that is a blessing. But even if he doesn't, that 664 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: is still a blessing, Like He is still good. Even 665 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: if we don't get the thing that we deem is good. 666 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: But if you do get that thing, know that it 667 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: comes with its own set of challenges, its own set 668 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: of refinement, its own set of all these things, but 669 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: also its own set of blessings like anything else. And 670 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: I know you dive way more into that in your book. 671 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: Unfortunately we're kind of out of time today to talk 672 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: about that. I really want to talk about that. But 673 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: you know what, get the book. She talks about so 674 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: many good things within it, just ways to structure prayers, 675 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: ways to continue to pursue the Lord in your season 676 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: of singleness, she like, she said, she even has a 677 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: prayer journal that goes with this. So where can everybody 678 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: get the book because it's officially out today. Where can 679 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: they get the book? Where can they get the prayer journal? 680 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: Because I know that that's another project that you worked 681 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: on alongside the book. Where can everybody get all that? 682 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 683 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, just even for showing this, because 684 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: I do hope that we can change how modern dating 685 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: has become a dumpster fire. We can refine it, make 686 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: it simpler, even though it's not easy, it should be simpler. 687 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: So that's one of my hopes through this, and to 688 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: enhance your prayer life. 689 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: So you can get both of those on Amazon. 690 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: They are available today. You order it will come to 691 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: your house. You can also go to Christianbevier dot com. 692 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: But I know that's hard to spell sometimes, so Amazon 693 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: or Christianbevier dot com. And I'd love to interact with 694 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: you on the Dear Future Husband podcast if you're like, 695 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: I need to. 696 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: Suss this girl out a little bit more before I commit. Fully, 697 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: it's okay. I know it's like a marriage. To buy 698 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: the book, we can date first. You can come over to. 699 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: The Dear People Husband podcast, and there's incredible testimonies there too. 700 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: I just I love how faithful the. 701 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: Lord is to give us testimonies, to give us encouragements 702 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: exactly where we are. So thankful for the voices there, 703 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: and Kurby, I'm thankful for this podcast. Thank you for 704 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: encouraging people and pointing back to the real truth in 705 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: the Way in the Light hymn. 706 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. I will link all of that down below 707 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: for y'all, so it's just one simple scroll and click 708 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: to check out her book and to check out that 709 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: journal that goes alongside it, and yeah, go listen to 710 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: her podcast. 711 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: Because it's amazing. 712 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: It is so good. I love y'all. Thank you for 713 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: tuning into this week's episode. I pray that it encouraged you. 714 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: If it did, let me know, leave a like, maybe 715 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: share it with a friend. I also have an email. 716 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: It's bought and Beloved at gmail dot com, all spelled out, 717 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: Bought A and d beloved at gmail dot com. If 718 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: you have any questions about anything, maybe you're reading the 719 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: Bible and you're like, what does this mean? Maybe you're 720 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: in a specific season of life and you're like, I 721 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: need some advice. I need some godly wisdom and discernment. 722 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: Maybe you're I don't know, discipling and pouring into somebody, 723 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't know how to answer this question, 724 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: but maybe Garby does. What does she know about the Bible? 725 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 3: Email me. 726 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: I'd love to make an episode that is relatable and 727 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: will pour into you in the season that you are in, 728 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: So feel free to hit me up on that email. 729 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: And maybe there's a guest you want to see on 730 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: here I don't know, recommend it in the comments or something. 731 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: I'd love to see. Who it is that you guys 732 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: want to have on here and who I can have 733 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: a conversation with next But until then, I love you guys, 734 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: and I'll see you here next week for another episode. 735 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: Until then, love you. Vie for more life giving, faith 736 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: based podcast just like this one, check out lifeaudio dot com, 737 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: a proud partner of the bot Beloved podcast