1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,620 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:15,250 --> 00:00:18,230 Speaker 2: You're listening to Everyday Prayers with Million Praying Moms, where 3 00:00:18,290 --> 00:00:20,660 Speaker 2: we help you pray God's Word for your family in 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,220 Speaker 2: the areas you need it most. 5 00:00:22,380 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Nicolette Bell. Here, we believe. 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: Prayer isn't a last resort. It's our first and best 7 00:00:27,660 --> 00:00:30,630 Speaker 2: response in parenting. It's a partnership for the hearts of 8 00:00:30,690 --> 00:00:33,130 Speaker 2: our children that God invites us into. 9 00:00:33,810 --> 00:00:34,850 Speaker 3: We're continuing on. 10 00:00:34,970 --> 00:00:38,250 Speaker 2: In our Fruit of the Spirit, nine weeks of praying 11 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:39,850 Speaker 2: through the nine Fruit of the Spirit. 12 00:00:39,909 --> 00:00:42,769 Speaker 1: And we're having our Friday back to school conversations. 13 00:00:42,870 --> 00:00:46,330 Speaker 2: And today I'm so excited that we have Gianna Joy 14 00:00:46,370 --> 00:00:49,630 Speaker 2: Guzman with us here on the podcast to talk about 15 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:52,900 Speaker 2: her new book, God Sees Us. And her mother, Rebecca 16 00:00:52,940 --> 00:00:55,900 Speaker 2: Von Lintel, is also joining us on the podcast. And 17 00:00:55,940 --> 00:00:58,830 Speaker 2: I love that we get a mother-daughter duo for this 18 00:00:58,950 --> 00:01:00,630 Speaker 2: conversation today. 19 00:01:01,210 --> 00:01:02,470 Speaker 3: Girls, welcome to the show. 20 00:01:03,230 --> 00:01:04,810 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thanks for having us. 21 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:10,950 Speaker 2: Let's just get started by a quick introduction. Let us 22 00:01:11,050 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: know where you are physically located, where you live, and 23 00:01:15,420 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: kind of what's going on in your life. And Gianna, 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,700 Speaker 2: what led you to write this book? 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: We are right now in my mom's office. 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,140 Speaker 4: And I wrote this book because I know what it's 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,030 Speaker 4: like to feel alone when I struggle. And I wanted 28 00:01:32,090 --> 00:01:34,730 Speaker 4: other teenagers to realize that it's okay when we go 29 00:01:34,770 --> 00:01:37,930 Speaker 4: through things and that we don't necessarily go through the 30 00:01:37,990 --> 00:01:40,709 Speaker 4: exact same situation, but they're not alone when they struggle. 31 00:01:42,350 --> 00:01:44,970 Speaker 1: That's so good. That's so good. And Rebecca, give us 32 00:01:44,990 --> 00:01:46,050 Speaker 1: a little introduction to you. 33 00:01:46,830 --> 00:01:50,090 Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm Rebecca Von Lintel. I'm Gianna's mom, and we 34 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:52,230 Speaker 5: live in Colorado Springs. So we are so excited to 35 00:01:52,270 --> 00:01:54,570 Speaker 5: join you today and talk about her book and, um, 36 00:01:55,530 --> 00:01:56,410 Speaker 5: the fruits of the spirit too. 37 00:01:56,470 --> 00:01:59,210 Speaker 1: We love that. Um, we might be highlighting that as 38 00:01:59,230 --> 00:01:59,670 Speaker 1: well today. 39 00:02:00,140 --> 00:02:00,500 Speaker 5: Yeah. 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 41 00:02:01,380 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: So Gianna, your book is titled God sees us and 42 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,220 Speaker 2: you just spoke to, you wrote it impartially just for, 43 00:02:06,620 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: for people. 44 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:09,220 Speaker 1: To know that they are not alone. 45 00:02:09,260 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: And you've realized that in your own, I kind of 46 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: wrestlings and coming up in that encouragement. Um, Why is 47 00:02:17,380 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: that truth that God sees us? And I love that 48 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: you use it plural. It's not just me. It's not 49 00:02:24,860 --> 00:02:29,329 Speaker 2: just you. It's plural because this walk with Jesus is 50 00:02:29,389 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: supposed to be together, right? So this God sees us. 51 00:02:32,870 --> 00:02:35,310 Speaker 2: Why is that such an important truth or an anchor 52 00:02:35,450 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: in your life? 53 00:02:37,330 --> 00:02:40,490 Speaker 4: Because often I have tried to be seen by people 54 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 4: that don't want to recognize me, and I feel like 55 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,740 Speaker 4: I have to be someone that I'm not in order 56 00:02:44,780 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 4: to get attention. But with God, He made us in 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,270 Speaker 4: His perfect and beautiful image, and we don't have to 58 00:02:49,330 --> 00:02:51,570 Speaker 4: change who we are. He loves us for who He 59 00:02:51,610 --> 00:02:52,130 Speaker 4: made us to be. 60 00:02:53,650 --> 00:02:54,169 Speaker 3: That's so good. 61 00:02:54,310 --> 00:02:57,340 Speaker 2: That's such a strong truth, just that we can hold 62 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,660 Speaker 2: to that reminder that God sees us. And in our 63 00:03:00,820 --> 00:03:05,380 Speaker 2: society where we are constantly, it is about being seen, 64 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,260 Speaker 2: it feels like, right? With our social media society, so 65 00:03:08,340 --> 00:03:11,010 Speaker 2: much of what we, I joke, like when I was 66 00:03:11,330 --> 00:03:14,669 Speaker 2: coming in high school, like Facebook had just started, right? 67 00:03:14,690 --> 00:03:17,650 Speaker 2: So I was at this very cusp of the beginning 68 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:20,430 Speaker 2: of social media life. I think I got on Facebook 69 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:22,430 Speaker 2: when I was like in 10th grade, right? So it's 70 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:23,950 Speaker 2: like this whole, and then you could. 71 00:03:24,090 --> 00:03:24,930 Speaker 1: Not do anything. 72 00:03:24,990 --> 00:03:26,650 Speaker 2: It was just very limited what you could actually do 73 00:03:26,690 --> 00:03:29,690 Speaker 2: on Facebook. But this kind of the beginning of that. 74 00:03:29,770 --> 00:03:31,950 Speaker 2: And so now I even look, I look at your 75 00:03:32,010 --> 00:03:34,970 Speaker 2: generation and I'm going, wow, you know, to grow up 76 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: being surrounded by constantly being seen, right? And the pressure 77 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,500 Speaker 2: that comes with that, that just didn't exist when I 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,450 Speaker 2: was growing up. 79 00:03:45,460 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: What do you think some of those unique challenges are. 80 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:52,950 Speaker 4: I think a lot of it is trying to be 81 00:03:53,070 --> 00:03:56,530 Speaker 4: good enough for someone else and trying to be on top. 82 00:03:56,670 --> 00:03:59,150 Speaker 4: It's always a competition on who gets more likes or 83 00:03:59,190 --> 00:04:03,619 Speaker 4: who gets more views and it's a lot of struggle 84 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,330 Speaker 4: and like a lot of pressure. And I think that 85 00:04:06,830 --> 00:04:08,950 Speaker 4: if we all just recognize that it doesn't really matter 86 00:04:08,990 --> 00:04:10,510 Speaker 4: in the end, that it wouldn't be a lot better. 87 00:04:10,530 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's good. 88 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,460 Speaker 2: I think that, you know, sometimes we can get really 89 00:04:15,580 --> 00:04:18,750 Speaker 2: caught up in that comparison, like you said, that kind 90 00:04:18,790 --> 00:04:23,490 Speaker 2: of back and forth. I remember a specific time when 91 00:04:23,670 --> 00:04:27,750 Speaker 2: I was in college that I remember like kind of 92 00:04:27,810 --> 00:04:30,330 Speaker 2: realizing first, I don't know, it was like the Lord. 93 00:04:30,190 --> 00:04:31,110 Speaker 3: Really spoke to me. 94 00:04:31,130 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: And he was like, you know, I had a thought, 95 00:04:34,820 --> 00:04:37,539 Speaker 2: a beautiful young woman walked into the room and I 96 00:04:37,580 --> 00:04:39,740 Speaker 2: just thought, man, like she's got it all together. Like 97 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,180 Speaker 2: she looks fabulous. Like, She has got it. All eyes 98 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,620 Speaker 2: are turning to her. She looks gorgeous. And just her 99 00:04:47,730 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: outfit was great. Her persona was great. Just everything about her. 100 00:04:50,810 --> 00:04:53,390 Speaker 2: I was like, man, she's... And I was immediately a 101 00:04:53,410 --> 00:04:56,330 Speaker 2: little jealous. Oh, she's got it all together. 102 00:04:56,410 --> 00:04:57,250 Speaker 1: I don't have it all together. 103 00:04:57,270 --> 00:04:58,980 Speaker 3: And instead, it. 104 00:04:58,940 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: Was like the Holy Spirit spoke to me and was like, 105 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: she is my beautiful daughter. 106 00:05:02,140 --> 00:05:02,570 Speaker 1: Go tell her. 107 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, what? 108 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,140 Speaker 2: And so I walked up and I just said, you 109 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: look really beautiful today. And it was like in that moment, 110 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,180 Speaker 2: almost like a switch flipped in my head. It was like, 111 00:05:15,460 --> 00:05:17,700 Speaker 2: she can be beautiful and I can be beautiful too. 112 00:05:18,140 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: And so can she. And so can she. And so 113 00:05:20,380 --> 00:05:23,810 Speaker 2: can she. It's not this, we've only got one spot, right? 114 00:05:23,820 --> 00:05:25,990 Speaker 2: That God looks at all of us and he sees 115 00:05:26,050 --> 00:05:28,310 Speaker 2: our beauty and there's room for all of us at 116 00:05:28,350 --> 00:05:30,870 Speaker 2: the table. But like you said, so often it's this competition. 117 00:05:30,970 --> 00:05:33,490 Speaker 2: It's this this back or forth. It's this you or 118 00:05:33,550 --> 00:05:36,710 Speaker 2: me instead of this us. And I love that that's 119 00:05:36,750 --> 00:05:39,070 Speaker 2: in your title, that God sees us. We're kind of 120 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:41,900 Speaker 2: in this together. So what does it look like for 121 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,180 Speaker 2: you as you live out kind of supporting your peers 122 00:05:45,260 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: and being a voice of positivity to your peers? 123 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,020 Speaker 4: Um, I try often to remind people that they're good enough. 124 00:05:54,260 --> 00:05:57,060 Speaker 4: And anytime that someone's struggling, they always come and talk 125 00:05:57,100 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: to me and they're like, Hey, I don't know what 126 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: to do. And I try to give them advice on 127 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,810 Speaker 4: how I would do it. But at the same time, 128 00:06:03,870 --> 00:06:06,690 Speaker 4: it's like, it's a different situation as well. So it's, 129 00:06:06,830 --> 00:06:08,849 Speaker 4: I don't know the answer, but I pray for them. 130 00:06:09,070 --> 00:06:11,750 Speaker 4: I try to point them to Jesus and tell them 131 00:06:11,970 --> 00:06:13,450 Speaker 4: it's going to be okay, no matter what. And God 132 00:06:13,490 --> 00:06:14,470 Speaker 4: has a plan for our stories. 133 00:06:15,339 --> 00:06:17,260 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's really cool. 134 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: Rebecca, how have you been able to support Gianna along 135 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,170 Speaker 2: the way, like in these struggles? We talked, I talked 136 00:06:24,210 --> 00:06:26,210 Speaker 2: to an author a couple of weeks ago and she 137 00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:28,950 Speaker 2: just starts about continually like kind of taking our children's 138 00:06:29,050 --> 00:06:32,270 Speaker 2: chins and lifting them back up at Jesus. 139 00:06:32,330 --> 00:06:33,330 Speaker 3: Like that's our job. 140 00:06:33,390 --> 00:06:37,140 Speaker 2: This mom's just continually kind of tilt their heads back 141 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,460 Speaker 2: up at him again and again and again. How have 142 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,740 Speaker 2: you done that with Gianna? 143 00:06:42,779 --> 00:06:44,980 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a constant, you know, like you said, the 144 00:06:45,020 --> 00:06:45,740 Speaker 1: comparison story. 145 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,350 Speaker 5: I love that story you just told because one of 146 00:06:48,380 --> 00:06:50,460 Speaker 5: the things about Gianna starting school this week is she's like, 147 00:06:50,490 --> 00:06:51,789 Speaker 5: what are people going to think of me? 148 00:06:51,810 --> 00:06:52,710 Speaker 1: You know, she's starting a new. 149 00:06:52,670 --> 00:06:56,530 Speaker 5: High school in 11th grade and she's worried about what 150 00:06:56,570 --> 00:06:58,250 Speaker 5: people are going to think. And I think as a mom, 151 00:06:58,310 --> 00:07:00,290 Speaker 5: we just often are saying like, you don't have to 152 00:07:00,330 --> 00:07:03,990 Speaker 5: think about that. You know, think about how God views you, 153 00:07:04,150 --> 00:07:06,110 Speaker 5: you know, how much I love you. He loves you 154 00:07:06,230 --> 00:07:08,450 Speaker 5: so much more than that. And so really trying to 155 00:07:08,470 --> 00:07:10,740 Speaker 5: get them out of that comparison game and not competing 156 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 5: with others, but really including alongside others that we are 157 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,700 Speaker 5: all in God's kingdom together. And really just encouraging her 158 00:07:17,740 --> 00:07:19,670 Speaker 5: to see herself as God sees her, I think has 159 00:07:19,850 --> 00:07:22,020 Speaker 5: just been something that our family tries to focus on. 160 00:07:22,980 --> 00:07:23,460 Speaker 1: That's so good. 161 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:26,179 Speaker 2: I have a four-year-old little girl who's also starting school 162 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:30,550 Speaker 2: this week. And so completely different places, right? But even 163 00:07:30,650 --> 00:07:33,489 Speaker 2: with her, I've heard her make comments of, well, so-and-so 164 00:07:33,510 --> 00:07:35,330 Speaker 2: didn't want to play with me on the playground today. 165 00:07:35,350 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: And I'm like, are we already starting this at four 166 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: years old? 167 00:07:38,060 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: How can this even be? But it is true. So true. 168 00:07:40,660 --> 00:07:44,300 Speaker 2: And I think really girls face, guys face the struggle 169 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,340 Speaker 2: as well, but girls really face it in a little 170 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: bit of a. 171 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,100 Speaker 3: Different, unique way. 172 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,580 Speaker 2: And so I think that, you know, for me as 173 00:07:51,620 --> 00:07:53,250 Speaker 2: a mom, kind of at the front end of this 174 00:07:53,290 --> 00:07:55,290 Speaker 2: to hear you say, you know, we spoke these words 175 00:07:55,410 --> 00:07:57,410 Speaker 2: over her of like, this is how God sees you. 176 00:07:57,470 --> 00:07:59,910 Speaker 2: This is who you are in his kingdom. This is 177 00:07:59,950 --> 00:08:02,010 Speaker 2: how you should see others in his kingdom. That's so 178 00:08:02,050 --> 00:08:05,550 Speaker 2: important for us to remember as moms. the words that 179 00:08:05,590 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: we're speaking over our children. Gianna, how would you say 180 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: that your parents' words have affected the way that you 181 00:08:11,380 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: see the world and interact with those around you? 182 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:17,420 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always looked up to my parents. 183 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,860 Speaker 4: I love when she tells me and reminds me daily 184 00:08:20,930 --> 00:08:23,730 Speaker 4: that I'm beautiful and that I matter because I often 185 00:08:23,790 --> 00:08:25,410 Speaker 4: struggle with sometimes thinking. 186 00:08:25,150 --> 00:08:27,010 Speaker 1: Of like, why am I here? What's my purpose? 187 00:08:28,230 --> 00:08:32,609 Speaker 4: And it definitely helps because knowing that someone believes in 188 00:08:32,650 --> 00:08:35,179 Speaker 4: me And I can always rely on that. 189 00:08:35,540 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: It truly makes a difference. Yeah. Yeah. 190 00:08:38,540 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: So I think, you know, what, what maybe encouragement could 191 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,420 Speaker 2: you give to moms who are listening that maybe are 192 00:08:46,460 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: saying those words over their teenagers and they feel like 193 00:08:48,950 --> 00:08:51,790 Speaker 2: their teenager is like not listening or not engaging. Right. 194 00:08:51,809 --> 00:08:56,610 Speaker 2: Like I feel like you soak in more than probably 195 00:08:56,710 --> 00:09:01,610 Speaker 2: parents realize, you know, do you feel that way? Yeah. Yeah. 196 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:06,410 Speaker 4: I think it's often there's like, a daily struggle for everybody, 197 00:09:06,490 --> 00:09:09,590 Speaker 4: but especially teenagers, there's so much going through our heads. 198 00:09:09,650 --> 00:09:11,770 Speaker 1: We don't know what to do next. We don't know 199 00:09:11,809 --> 00:09:12,830 Speaker 1: where our lives are going to go. 200 00:09:12,890 --> 00:09:14,630 Speaker 4: And a lot of the time, and we have other 201 00:09:14,650 --> 00:09:18,230 Speaker 4: people saying that our dreams are not, you know, worth it, 202 00:09:18,250 --> 00:09:24,620 Speaker 4: or they're not real. They're not going to be like reality. Um, 203 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: I think telling your children that they're good enough, um, 204 00:09:31,780 --> 00:09:34,610 Speaker 4: It matters to them. They might not show it right 205 00:09:34,650 --> 00:09:37,810 Speaker 4: away because they're struggling and they've felt pain. And you 206 00:09:37,850 --> 00:09:40,230 Speaker 4: might have hurt them in the past and you don't 207 00:09:40,270 --> 00:09:43,350 Speaker 4: realize it. But they're healing from a lot of things 208 00:09:43,610 --> 00:09:46,470 Speaker 4: and they don't necessarily always want to open up right away. 209 00:09:47,250 --> 00:09:49,650 Speaker 1: And it's a challenge, I know. 210 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:53,830 Speaker 4: But it takes time to heal and it takes time 211 00:09:53,870 --> 00:09:56,750 Speaker 4: to process things. And I think it takes a longer 212 00:09:56,809 --> 00:09:59,130 Speaker 4: time for teenagers as well because there's so many things 213 00:09:59,190 --> 00:10:01,380 Speaker 4: happening at once. that they just get overwhelmed and they 214 00:10:01,420 --> 00:10:01,699 Speaker 4: don't know. 215 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,020 Speaker 1: What to do. That's good. 216 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 2: Can y'all share an example of practices maybe that you 217 00:10:08,020 --> 00:10:10,790 Speaker 2: have in your family? So obviously like you have a 218 00:10:10,809 --> 00:10:14,790 Speaker 2: practice of kind of speaking those words of truth over 219 00:10:15,170 --> 00:10:17,530 Speaker 2: your children. You know, do you guys pray together? Do 220 00:10:17,550 --> 00:10:19,770 Speaker 2: you read together? Like what does that look like. 221 00:10:19,730 --> 00:10:21,170 Speaker 1: In your family? 222 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:28,580 Speaker 4: Yeah, we always pray at night and we pray about, 223 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,500 Speaker 4: everything that we've gone through that day. I come from 224 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,699 Speaker 4: a broken home, so I used to switch back and forth. 225 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:36,780 Speaker 4: And once a week, anytime I would come to my 226 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: mom's house, we would take whatever happened and we would 227 00:10:40,620 --> 00:10:42,620 Speaker 4: crush a water bottle or we would hit a pillow 228 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: and then we would start over. So it was kind 229 00:10:44,940 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: of like a reset to remember that stuff happens, but 230 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 4: it's not the end of the world, that we can 231 00:10:50,140 --> 00:10:51,260 Speaker 4: always keep pushing forward. 232 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,980 Speaker 1: That's so good. That's so good. Rebecca, do you have 233 00:10:55,020 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: any comments on that? 234 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I had forgotten about that, actually. But one thing 235 00:11:00,340 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 5: that we have also done since Gianna was about five, 236 00:11:02,420 --> 00:11:05,730 Speaker 5: so over a decade now, I don't claim this. I 237 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,610 Speaker 5: just read it somewhere in a blog. But sometime 10 238 00:11:08,610 --> 00:11:11,349 Speaker 5: years ago, I read to ask your kids three questions 239 00:11:11,610 --> 00:11:13,710 Speaker 5: every night at dinner. And one of them was, what 240 00:11:13,730 --> 00:11:16,190 Speaker 5: did you do kind today? What did you do brave? 241 00:11:16,230 --> 00:11:18,429 Speaker 5: And how did you fail today? And those three things, 242 00:11:18,929 --> 00:11:21,810 Speaker 5: literally almost every single time we're together for dinner, we 243 00:11:21,890 --> 00:11:23,890 Speaker 5: ask those of each other and our family now. And 244 00:11:24,510 --> 00:11:28,370 Speaker 5: It really just puts into perspective that for one, putting kindness, 245 00:11:28,510 --> 00:11:30,650 Speaker 5: you know, being kind to yourself, being kind to others. 246 00:11:31,620 --> 00:11:33,550 Speaker 5: And then what did you do brave? Because life takes 247 00:11:33,630 --> 00:11:35,939 Speaker 5: a lot of courage to face your life every day. 248 00:11:36,580 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: And then failure. I think that's the most exciting one 249 00:11:39,660 --> 00:11:42,300 Speaker 1: because it was a way to show that every single 250 00:11:42,380 --> 00:11:44,979 Speaker 1: one of us make these mistakes, whether it's something very 251 00:11:45,020 --> 00:11:48,020 Speaker 1: small or something very big. daily, including me, I would 252 00:11:48,059 --> 00:11:49,380 Speaker 1: answer the same questions at dinner. 253 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 5: And those practices really help, you know, to help kids 254 00:11:53,540 --> 00:11:55,980 Speaker 5: and to help Gianna and my girls that I've seen 255 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,830 Speaker 5: really face, you know, each day with like, how can 256 00:11:58,850 --> 00:12:00,570 Speaker 5: I be kind and brave and live with courage, but 257 00:12:00,590 --> 00:12:03,390 Speaker 5: also it's okay to fail. And so those are two 258 00:12:03,450 --> 00:12:07,870 Speaker 5: things that we definitely have done. 259 00:12:10,429 --> 00:12:14,449 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so good, this conversation about you know, failure 260 00:12:14,510 --> 00:12:17,270 Speaker 2: because that, that brings up like, you're not what you 261 00:12:17,290 --> 00:12:20,370 Speaker 2: do or don't do. Right. Like we're just openly acknowledging 262 00:12:20,390 --> 00:12:22,670 Speaker 2: that as a family, like we are going to fail. 263 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:24,300 Speaker 2: We are going to mess up, you know, Johnny, you're 264 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: talking about some of the things you feel like about 265 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,940 Speaker 2: your future. And I feel like our, our, I served 266 00:12:29,980 --> 00:12:32,579 Speaker 2: in youth ministry for many years and I felt just 267 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,069 Speaker 2: this tangible pressure on our teenagers for what their future 268 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,650 Speaker 2: was going to look like. And I feel like that 269 00:12:38,690 --> 00:12:40,830 Speaker 2: was different even from, you know, when I was in 270 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:43,329 Speaker 2: high school and more than a decade ago. 271 00:12:43,410 --> 00:12:45,910 Speaker 3: But, you know, just like this pressure of what are 272 00:12:45,929 --> 00:12:46,370 Speaker 3: you going to do? 273 00:12:46,410 --> 00:12:47,190 Speaker 1: What are you going to do? 274 00:12:47,290 --> 00:12:49,780 Speaker 2: And that comes out in a lot of the different, 275 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,770 Speaker 2: you know, conversations of teenagers. you know, it can, you 276 00:12:54,809 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: can read into your parents question about how did that 277 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:01,580 Speaker 2: test go today into, did you score high enough? Or, 278 00:13:01,940 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: you know, these types of pressure questions that we don't 279 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: intend for them to necessarily be, but there's so much 280 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,300 Speaker 2: pressure on you to get it right and to do 281 00:13:10,380 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: the right thing and to do the thing that's respected 282 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: and whatever. And so I feel like, you know, just 283 00:13:16,179 --> 00:13:18,550 Speaker 2: having that as a normal question, you ask each other 284 00:13:18,630 --> 00:13:21,110 Speaker 2: can kind of free up some of that. It's like, hey, 285 00:13:21,130 --> 00:13:23,710 Speaker 2: you know, where did you fail today? Because I failed here. 286 00:13:23,850 --> 00:13:25,850 Speaker 2: And this is, maybe I failed you. Like Jonathan said, 287 00:13:25,870 --> 00:13:28,780 Speaker 2: maybe I've hurt you as my kid. And to be 288 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: able to say as a parent, like, I'm sorry for this. 289 00:13:32,860 --> 00:13:35,739 Speaker 2: Can we address it and move on from it? I 290 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,170 Speaker 2: think that that goes a long way when kind of 291 00:13:39,210 --> 00:13:40,630 Speaker 2: talking with your children. 292 00:13:41,470 --> 00:13:43,250 Speaker 1: Absolutely. It's interesting you say that. 293 00:13:43,270 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 5: I was reading about kindness this morning, and I was 294 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 5: kind of caught by the fact that in Ephesians and Colossians, 295 00:13:49,580 --> 00:13:54,339 Speaker 5: kindness is linked to forgiveness. I think it was Ephesians 296 00:13:54,340 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: 4.32 and Colossians 3.12, but I had never caught that before. 297 00:13:57,300 --> 00:13:59,710 Speaker 5: We were just kind of praying and preparing for this podcast, 298 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,689 Speaker 5: and I thought, that's very interesting that it says, like, 299 00:14:01,750 --> 00:14:04,110 Speaker 5: clothe yourself with kindness because God forgives us. And then, 300 00:14:04,530 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 5: you know, Ephesians 4.32 was like, be kind, be all 301 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:10,980 Speaker 5: these things and forgive because God forgives us. And it's 302 00:14:11,420 --> 00:14:14,380 Speaker 5: in those passages, it's just very interesting that kindness and 303 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,370 Speaker 5: forgiveness go hand in hand. And I think it really 304 00:14:16,410 --> 00:14:18,270 Speaker 5: does in our lives as well. 305 00:14:18,290 --> 00:14:23,150 Speaker 2: And that's what I love about kind of you guys' story. 306 00:14:23,170 --> 00:14:25,870 Speaker 2: You've begun, you live this out in your home, in 307 00:14:25,980 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: just your little environment. And then the Lord kind of 308 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,140 Speaker 2: gave you a platform, Gianna, and then He is using 309 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: you now to to be able to use that for 310 00:14:35,780 --> 00:14:40,950 Speaker 2: His glory. And so He took these practices, these small 311 00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:44,670 Speaker 2: or insignificant practices in your home, and then now He's 312 00:14:44,690 --> 00:14:48,670 Speaker 2: kind of put them on this bigger scale. And that's 313 00:14:48,730 --> 00:14:52,050 Speaker 2: so like Him, to see us in the quiet moments 314 00:14:52,110 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: of our faithfulness and then to reward us in that. 315 00:14:57,540 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: So what advice do you share in God Sees Us 316 00:15:00,780 --> 00:15:05,700 Speaker 2: that has proven the most useful to you in your life? 317 00:15:07,380 --> 00:15:10,300 Speaker 4: I honestly think throughout the entire book, I talk about 318 00:15:10,340 --> 00:15:12,580 Speaker 4: how God sees us. And I think that's honestly the 319 00:15:12,620 --> 00:15:14,900 Speaker 4: most important part is because when I used to struggle 320 00:15:14,980 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: and I still do, it's more of trying to be seen. 321 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: And I'm always like, oh, but this person doesn't see 322 00:15:20,940 --> 00:15:24,220 Speaker 4: me this way. And it's a constant like comparison. And 323 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,380 Speaker 4: I think that's like, it's the thief of joy. It's 324 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:28,420 Speaker 4: the thief of happiness. It's the thief of our life. 325 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,860 Speaker 4: It's It takes up most of our space. And often 326 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: I overthink things and I get so much anxiety about 327 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: small things that I make so much bigger than they are. 328 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, I just remember 329 00:15:40,060 --> 00:15:42,790 Speaker 4: that no matter what, I'm a child of God. That 330 00:15:43,010 --> 00:15:45,930 Speaker 4: I don't have to please anybody. Like, I don't have 331 00:15:45,970 --> 00:15:49,710 Speaker 4: to be this certain person to get accepted because God 332 00:15:49,850 --> 00:15:52,470 Speaker 4: already wants me as His child. He put me in 333 00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:55,290 Speaker 4: this world for a purpose. And I'm here and I'm 334 00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:58,070 Speaker 4: still standing. And that's amazing. 335 00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:58,980 Speaker 2: Yeah. 336 00:16:00,090 --> 00:16:00,630 Speaker 1: So how do you. 337 00:16:00,570 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: Remind yourself of that on a hard day? Let's say 338 00:16:04,140 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: you face something hard today. You're really struggling with that 339 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: anxiety today. How do you, in your own life, kind 340 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: of practice that? 341 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,740 Speaker 4: How do you talk about that in your book? I 342 00:16:12,820 --> 00:16:18,650 Speaker 4: talk about my anxiety through praying often. It's a struggle 343 00:16:18,690 --> 00:16:23,070 Speaker 4: that we all go through. And I remind myself that 344 00:16:23,210 --> 00:16:25,890 Speaker 4: no matter what, I just have to breathe and I 345 00:16:25,930 --> 00:16:27,550 Speaker 4: have to take it one step at a time because 346 00:16:27,930 --> 00:16:29,430 Speaker 4: it's kind of, I like to think about it as 347 00:16:29,490 --> 00:16:32,390 Speaker 4: a race that like you can see the start line 348 00:16:32,660 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 4: and you can see the finish line. 349 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: And I often think about it. I'm like, I always 350 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:36,020 Speaker 1: feel behind. 351 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,980 Speaker 4: Like I see all these people crossing it, but I'm 352 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,460 Speaker 4: still here. And it's because God hasn't used my story yet. 353 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: Like it's, it's because my story is not done being written. 354 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,900 Speaker 4: And I try to remind myself that no matter what, 355 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: God loves me. God loves us. God loves everybody. And 356 00:16:55,020 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: the pressure's real in this world. And we have to 357 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,390 Speaker 4: be someone that is good enough for this and that. 358 00:17:02,050 --> 00:17:06,649 Speaker 4: And I think it's really important to remember that no 359 00:17:06,690 --> 00:17:08,570 Speaker 4: matter what, God's on your side. 360 00:17:09,210 --> 00:17:13,530 Speaker 1: That you can do anything through Christ. And that His 361 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: opinion matters the most. Yeah. 362 00:17:15,740 --> 00:17:15,820 Speaker 2: Yeah. 363 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,810 Speaker 1: That's really good. That's really, really sweet. So tell me, 364 00:17:19,990 --> 00:17:23,730 Speaker 1: you wrote this book for your peers, right? 365 00:17:24,570 --> 00:17:24,750 Speaker 5: Yeah. 366 00:17:24,810 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: Who do you hope reads it and what do you 367 00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:30,230 Speaker 2: hope they gain from it? I hope teenagers read it. 368 00:17:31,780 --> 00:17:36,260 Speaker 2: And honestly, it's for anybody that struggles financially. Because I 369 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: wanted it to be a perspective from me because I'm 370 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: still growing. 371 00:17:39,740 --> 00:17:42,330 Speaker 1: I'm still struggling. I'm still learning how to do life. 372 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:45,830 Speaker 1: And it's like we have one time on this. 373 00:17:45,770 --> 00:17:46,190 Speaker 2: Earth, right? 374 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:49,429 Speaker 4: Like it's everyone's first time. I haven't died and then 375 00:17:49,470 --> 00:17:52,430 Speaker 4: come back and seeing everything again. And so it's a 376 00:17:52,430 --> 00:17:56,330 Speaker 4: learning experience from everybody. And I want people to realize 377 00:17:56,350 --> 00:17:58,669 Speaker 4: that when we struggle, when we go through hard things, 378 00:17:58,970 --> 00:18:02,770 Speaker 4: that we can... connect with other people, realize that it's 379 00:18:02,830 --> 00:18:06,930 Speaker 4: not just us. Because often I remember thinking, it's just me. 380 00:18:06,970 --> 00:18:09,030 Speaker 4: No one else knows what this feels like. But then 381 00:18:09,090 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: I remembered that everybody struggles. Everybody feels this kind of 382 00:18:13,619 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 4: way sometimes. That it doesn't have to be this exact 383 00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:20,179 Speaker 4: situation that I'm going through, but everybody feels anxiety. Everybody 384 00:18:20,220 --> 00:18:24,659 Speaker 4: feels overwhelmed and pressured and scared. And I wanted teenagers 385 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,889 Speaker 4: to realize that it's okay that God sees us And 386 00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:30,619 Speaker 4: he will take us through what he brought us to. 387 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: That's so good. So good. 388 00:18:34,260 --> 00:18:37,030 Speaker 2: Okay. So did you always have in mind that you 389 00:18:37,070 --> 00:18:39,510 Speaker 2: wanted to write a book or what kind of prompted 390 00:18:39,570 --> 00:18:42,090 Speaker 2: you to actually, you had these thoughts, you want to 391 00:18:42,130 --> 00:18:43,260 Speaker 2: share them with your friends. 392 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,980 Speaker 3: How did you like actually do it? 393 00:18:46,810 --> 00:18:50,790 Speaker 4: So I used to always pretend that I was making 394 00:18:50,850 --> 00:18:52,810 Speaker 4: like little reels in my bathroom and I just talked 395 00:18:52,830 --> 00:18:56,550 Speaker 4: myself through the mirror because I liked to solve my 396 00:18:56,590 --> 00:18:59,270 Speaker 4: own problems. I've always been that way where I'm just like, no, 397 00:18:59,410 --> 00:18:59,990 Speaker 4: I don't need help. 398 00:19:00,130 --> 00:19:00,550 Speaker 1: I'm fine. 399 00:19:02,130 --> 00:19:04,780 Speaker 4: And when I processed that, I used to just make 400 00:19:04,820 --> 00:19:06,859 Speaker 4: little videos on my phone and I sent one to 401 00:19:06,890 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 4: my mom one time and she was like, you could 402 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,140 Speaker 4: make a book. 403 00:19:09,180 --> 00:19:10,460 Speaker 1: And I was like, what? No way. 404 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,929 Speaker 4: And then I just tried and it happened. And I 405 00:19:14,970 --> 00:19:16,810 Speaker 4: didn't always think that I want to do that. I 406 00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:19,149 Speaker 4: actually like when she brought it up, that's when I 407 00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:21,210 Speaker 4: had it in my brain that I wanted to write 408 00:19:21,230 --> 00:19:24,650 Speaker 4: a book and help other people. But when I was younger, 409 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:26,869 Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed to have like any type of social media. 410 00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:29,710 Speaker 4: And so I would just make little videos for myself. 411 00:19:30,490 --> 00:19:32,730 Speaker 4: And then my mom thought they were actually helpful. 412 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:37,290 Speaker 2: Rebecca, tell a little bit of your side of that story, 413 00:19:37,310 --> 00:19:38,230 Speaker 2: because you have you have. 414 00:19:38,170 --> 00:19:41,630 Speaker 3: A little you have a background in the publishing industry, right? 415 00:19:42,369 --> 00:19:44,590 Speaker 1: Yes. I've been in publishing for 25 years. 416 00:19:44,670 --> 00:19:47,250 Speaker 5: And so I'm not only Gianna's mom, but her literary agent, 417 00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:51,020 Speaker 5: which is a unique, she's never done that. But yeah, 418 00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:52,900 Speaker 5: she sent me a video and she was doing like 419 00:19:52,940 --> 00:19:55,460 Speaker 5: a Bible study in her room and recording herself as 420 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,060 Speaker 5: if she was talking to her peers and really just 421 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,630 Speaker 5: encouraging them about something she had gone through personally. And 422 00:20:01,810 --> 00:20:03,890 Speaker 5: I watched it and I was like, I normally would 423 00:20:03,930 --> 00:20:05,510 Speaker 5: not tell my girl, you know, I'm not someone who's 424 00:20:05,530 --> 00:20:06,770 Speaker 5: going to push you to write a book. I've been 425 00:20:06,790 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 5: in publishing a long time. There's plenty of people that 426 00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 5: want to write books. And, but I just thought, man, 427 00:20:10,859 --> 00:20:12,220 Speaker 5: there's not a lot of people your age who are 428 00:20:12,260 --> 00:20:14,630 Speaker 5: speaking to people your age. And so when we kind 429 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:17,570 Speaker 5: of thought of that idea, she just cranked it out. 430 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:19,689 Speaker 5: She had so many things to say to people. She 431 00:20:19,730 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 5: could probably write five books and it was really fun 432 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,780 Speaker 5: to see. And one thing I want to say too, 433 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 5: is when we read it as a family to, you know, 434 00:20:26,540 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 5: we have a 18 year old about to go off 435 00:20:28,180 --> 00:20:30,340 Speaker 5: to college. And then my husband and I are again, 436 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: a blended family. So we have two step boys, um, 437 00:20:33,930 --> 00:20:36,430 Speaker 5: we all moved. I mean, when she says that she 438 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 5: raises for teenagers, I think moms can get a lot 439 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,500 Speaker 5: out of it too, to see what their kids are 440 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,780 Speaker 5: going through. I think, you know, my 18 year old 441 00:20:42,820 --> 00:20:44,980 Speaker 5: going to college was just like moved. We're all in 442 00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 5: tears by her introduction. So not only did I encourage 443 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:50,100 Speaker 5: her and I was blown away by the fact that 444 00:20:50,180 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 5: she was actually a really, really great writer and had so. 445 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,729 Speaker 1: Many things to say to teenagers. That's so special. 446 00:20:56,750 --> 00:21:00,109 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you shared that experience in your, in your, 447 00:21:00,970 --> 00:21:05,190 Speaker 2: in your own family, the impact that the work has had. Well, Gianna, 448 00:21:05,210 --> 00:21:08,010 Speaker 2: that's just so encouraging to me. And it's encouraging to 449 00:21:08,050 --> 00:21:11,929 Speaker 2: see you guys in that relationship of, Rebecca, you seeing 450 00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: something that the Lord was working in Gianna's life and 451 00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:19,340 Speaker 2: kind of helping call that out in her, not for attention, 452 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,859 Speaker 2: not for, you know, to make a bunch of money, 453 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: you know, in publishing. 454 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: You knew that that's not going to be the case, right? 455 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: You do it because. 456 00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: You love people and you want to encourage people people. 457 00:21:30,740 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: And so you called that out in her and that's 458 00:21:33,420 --> 00:21:35,980 Speaker 2: so special. And that's such a, something that we should 459 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,290 Speaker 2: be attuned to as moms is the way that, that 460 00:21:38,330 --> 00:21:40,689 Speaker 2: God is working. You know, I, I feel like I'm 461 00:21:40,730 --> 00:21:44,490 Speaker 2: doing what I'm doing because of the different opportunities that 462 00:21:45,109 --> 00:21:47,770 Speaker 2: people in my life gave me along the way, my 463 00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: youth pastor being the first one of saying, Hey, will 464 00:21:50,580 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: you get up here and lead this Bible study tonight? 465 00:21:52,859 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: You know? 466 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,300 Speaker 2: And so with these, opportunities being put in front of 467 00:21:56,340 --> 00:21:58,620 Speaker 2: you and saying yes to them, the Lord just continues 468 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,139 Speaker 2: to kind of work that out. And so I just 469 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: think that's really, really cool and something that we all 470 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,700 Speaker 2: as moms can be attentive to in our children's lives. 471 00:22:08,790 --> 00:22:12,510 Speaker 1: So, Gianna, we are knocking on our time here. 472 00:22:12,590 --> 00:22:16,230 Speaker 2: So I want to ask you, is there anything that 473 00:22:16,350 --> 00:22:21,450 Speaker 2: you would just like to say to parents of particularly 474 00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: moms who of your peers of your generation in a 475 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,940 Speaker 2: way that they can encourage their children? 476 00:22:29,290 --> 00:22:34,050 Speaker 4: Um, I would say be patient because your kid is 477 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:36,530 Speaker 4: still learning. Your kid is still processing things that they're 478 00:22:36,550 --> 00:22:39,350 Speaker 4: going through and no matter what, just show them love. 479 00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:41,950 Speaker 4: Maybe the love that they never thought that they got, 480 00:22:43,090 --> 00:22:46,770 Speaker 4: the love that they should always receive, but sometimes hard 481 00:22:46,790 --> 00:22:47,110 Speaker 4: to give. 482 00:22:48,150 --> 00:22:50,410 Speaker 1: Um, and just trust in them. 483 00:22:50,540 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: Just have, um, a mindset they will be okay, that they, 484 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: no matter what, God has them. Because I think a 485 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,700 Speaker 4: lot of the times it's hard for parents to think 486 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,660 Speaker 4: that God will take care of them and they want 487 00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:06,020 Speaker 4: to just be like, oh, but I have to do 488 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 4: this and I have to do this to make sure 489 00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:11,070 Speaker 4: they're okay. But in the process of growing up, you 490 00:23:11,109 --> 00:23:14,810 Speaker 4: have to give them opportunity to grow. Because sometimes it 491 00:23:14,830 --> 00:23:19,649 Speaker 4: feels like parents could hold us back, right? But letting 492 00:23:19,730 --> 00:23:23,820 Speaker 4: them make mistakes and being there, especially being there, not 493 00:23:23,859 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 4: judging them, being able to say, it's okay to make mistakes. 494 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,659 Speaker 4: Everybody does it. I will help you do this. I 495 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 4: will help you get back on your feet because often 496 00:23:34,820 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: teenagers try to live up to their parents and we 497 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,500 Speaker 4: put them on a pedestal and we're like, they are perfect. 498 00:23:39,540 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 4: They this and this, and then reality hits. And then 499 00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:46,250 Speaker 4: you're like, wait, but they made a mistake. But why 500 00:23:46,670 --> 00:23:49,350 Speaker 4: do I feel so much pressure to be perfect? So 501 00:23:49,410 --> 00:23:51,750 Speaker 4: I think letting them be able to make mistakes and 502 00:23:51,770 --> 00:23:53,750 Speaker 4: letting them be able to grow and being there and 503 00:23:53,790 --> 00:23:56,030 Speaker 4: loving them no matter what and letting them know that 504 00:23:56,050 --> 00:23:58,210 Speaker 4: they love them is the biggest thing. 505 00:23:59,670 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's beautiful. Thank you for sharing that with us. 506 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,780 Speaker 2: I wonder if you would mind praying for our audience 507 00:24:06,980 --> 00:24:09,700 Speaker 2: as we close out our time together today. 508 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,300 Speaker 3: Thank you. 509 00:24:11,910 --> 00:24:14,310 Speaker 4: Dear Heavenly Father from above, thank you so much for 510 00:24:14,330 --> 00:24:17,659 Speaker 4: this opportunity that I got to talk and share. Please 511 00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: let everyone have an amazing day and let them know 512 00:24:20,540 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 4: that you are here. Let them know that you are 513 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,930 Speaker 4: with them and guide them through their day and make 514 00:24:26,010 --> 00:24:29,110 Speaker 4: them realize that no matter what, you are with them, 515 00:24:29,390 --> 00:24:30,210 Speaker 4: that you see them. 516 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:32,530 Speaker 1: And in Jesus' name, amen. 517 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,090 Speaker 3: Amen. Amen. 518 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,810 Speaker 2: And real quick, Jonna, tell everybody where they can find 519 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,990 Speaker 2: you and a copy of their book that they're going 520 00:24:39,010 --> 00:24:40,730 Speaker 2: to want to get the teenager in their life. 521 00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:45,210 Speaker 1: On my website, godseesusbook.com. Okay, perfect. 522 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:47,409 Speaker 2: Great way to connect. Well, thank you so much. And 523 00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:50,050 Speaker 2: we will connect again soon. 524 00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:52,369 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you so much for having us. 525 00:24:53,619 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: As part of our Fruit of the Spirit prayers and 526 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,459 Speaker 2: everyday prayers for the school year book club, Tara Cole 527 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: and I created a free car conversations guide for your 528 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,649 Speaker 2: family to use this fall. The car is sometimes the 529 00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:11,010 Speaker 2: best place for our most precious conversations with our kids. 530 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,790 Speaker 2: As we are praying through the Fruit of the Spirit, 531 00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:17,340 Speaker 2: our hope is that you can have meaningful conversations with 532 00:25:17,410 --> 00:25:21,020 Speaker 2: your kids about what living out these fruit looks like 533 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,909 Speaker 2: in their daily lives. Tara and I created a series 534 00:25:23,970 --> 00:25:26,389 Speaker 2: of quick questions. She wrote some for the older kids. 535 00:25:26,590 --> 00:25:28,889 Speaker 2: I wrote some for younger kids. And we share a 536 00:25:28,930 --> 00:25:32,020 Speaker 2: prayer that you can share with your children about each 537 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: of the fruit of the Spirit. Download your copy for 538 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,980 Speaker 2: free on our website or the link in our show notes. 539 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,660 Speaker 2: Until next time, friends, the Lord bless you and keep you. 540 00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:46,620 Speaker 2: Make His face shine upon you and be gracious to you. 541 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: May the Lord look with favor on you and give 542 00:25:50,220 --> 00:25:50,660 Speaker 2: you peace.