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Speaker 1: iTunes and Hillsdale Morning, Glory and Evening Grace. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Big Weekend Pod America. I'm Hugh Hewett. We had

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun this weekend talking with our regular lineup,

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Speaker 1: John Ellis of News Items, and you get news items

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Speaker 1: best substack available. It just consolidates all the news and

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Speaker 1: John and I picked four five stories every day that

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Speaker 1: you might have overlooked.

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Speaker 2: Eli Lake is back.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Iran, of course, Matt Continetty and I

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Speaker 1: are talking about Iran and everything having to do with

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Speaker 1: the tariff decision by the Supreme Court on Friday, as

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Speaker 1: is the case with Ben Dominic, with a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an Olympic thrown in at the end. And yes,

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Speaker 1: I know the usual suspects are mad at the Chief

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Speaker 1: Justice really, really, it can't be. It's not like people

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Speaker 1: didn't see this coming. And Justice Barrett and Justice Gorsich

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Speaker 1: agreed with them. The liberals just agree with him because

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Speaker 1: they're liberals and they don't want anything to do with

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. The Chief Justice reads the statute. The statute

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Speaker 1: says no, can't be done. But the President's got other

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Speaker 1: things in front of him, and he's gone off and

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Speaker 1: done them. And this is by no means over. It's

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Speaker 1: not the end of the world, not even that significant

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Speaker 1: a decision, as I will argue with Matt and Ben today,

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Speaker 1: but I will play for you the President's highlights. I'll

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Speaker 1: call them highlights after the Ben Dominic interview. Stick around

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Speaker 1: if you missed President Trump's Friday press conference because there

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Speaker 1: was a doozy and then just settle back and enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, I won't be talking to you for a week.

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Speaker 1: I expect the war to be underway and maybe over

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Speaker 1: But Kurt Schlichter will be in for me, and he'll

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Speaker 1: be doing the big weekend pod as well as the daily.

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Speaker 1: You will not be left alone. Adam Harley and Dwayne

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Speaker 1: Big Weekend Pod America. What a significant Friday war is

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Speaker 1: looming in Iran and the Supreme Court rule six to

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Speaker 1: three today, Chief Justice Roberts writing, quote, our task today

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Speaker 1: is to decide only whether the power to regulate importation

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Speaker 1: is granted to the president in the IEEPA embraces the

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Speaker 1: power to impose tariffs, it does not. With that decision,

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Speaker 1: everything is up in the air, and John Ellis is

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Speaker 1: here to tell us what's going to happen next. John

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Speaker 1: Ellis is the editor of news Items, and tomorrow's news

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Speaker 1: items of the weekend is going to be full of this. John,

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Speaker 1: But what's your initial reaction to the six to three decision,

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Speaker 1: which included Justice is Amy, Cony Barrett, and Neil Gorsich

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Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised, and I don't think the Trump administration

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Speaker 3: you know, I think it's pretty The Constitution is pretty

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Speaker 3: not a surprise. The question really is, you know, if

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Speaker 3: the president insists on, you know, putting in this ten

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Speaker 3: That's the political problem. Not a lot of people want

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Speaker 1: I don't think it actually ends the discussion so much

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Speaker 1: remaining to the Court of Claims doesn't really tell us

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Speaker 1: different sections. It's a big cloud of dust. Behind that

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Speaker 3: The argument is that Congress has to authorize, you know, declare,

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Speaker 3: And in the context of the of this Tariff's ruling,

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Speaker 3: But two similar cases where authorization by Congress is required

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Speaker 1: Now, you're absolutely correct. Both President Bush's forty one and

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Speaker 1: Trump suffer irreparable political injury if he doesn't strike injury Iran.

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Speaker 3: Now he's put himself in a situation where if he

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Speaker 3: The thing that people I think don't fully appreciate is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, initial, at least you're the first person to say that.

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Speaker 1: me move to the AI stuff. Today's news items is

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Speaker 1: choc a block fall with stuff that I kind of

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Speaker 1: got because John makes it gettable. But now you've sent

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Speaker 1: the other is better than the other and the other way.

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Speaker 1: What are we to think? We lame it and we

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Speaker 3: Well, one thing that we don't want AI to do

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Speaker 3: an inquiry and it makes up that Hugh Hewett is

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Speaker 3: a Muslim who is working for Hezbollah. Right, It's just

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Speaker 3: complete craziness and it happens quite frequently. And what's happened

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Speaker 1: Yeah, John, I've run into this repeatedly when I'm looking

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Speaker 1: So they're not yet even close to being comprehensive.

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Speaker 3: Right, Right, So you know, the hallucination problem is a

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, let's move to I already put this

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Speaker 1: All right. Last question has to do with the robotaxis.

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Speaker 1: I myself am sworn never to get into one. However,

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Speaker 1: to be. But I'm not sold yet. John Allison News items.

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Speaker 2: The President to the running people off at Toronto talks

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Speaker 2: with them. Do you have any message to the running people.

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Speaker 4: To running people in Iran or the people here people

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Speaker 4: in Iran.

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Speaker 1: They better negotiate a fair deal.

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Speaker 4: You know, the people of Iran are a lot different

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Speaker 4: than the leaders of Iran. And it's very, very, very

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Speaker 4: sad situation. But thirty two thousand people were killed over

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Speaker 4: a relatively short period of time. They were going to

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Speaker 4: hang eight hundred two weeks ago, hang hang some by crane.

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Speaker 4: They lift them up with a tall crane and they

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Speaker 4: play them around the square. They were going to hang

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Speaker 4: eight hundred and thirty seven people. And I gave them

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Speaker 4: the word, if you hang one person, even one person,

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Speaker 4: that you're going to be hit right then and there.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't waiting two weeks and negotiating, and they gave

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Speaker 4: up the hanging. They didn't hang eight hundred and thirty seven. Supposedly,

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Speaker 4: they didn't hang anybody. But no, I feel very badly

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Speaker 4: for the people of Iran. They've lived like they've lived

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Speaker 4: in the hell.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back America.

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Speaker 1: That is President Trump at the White House today. I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Eli Lake of the Free Press. He's a

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Speaker 1: host of Breaking History, He's one of my go to

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Speaker 1: guys on all things Iran. Eli, what is your reporting

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Speaker 1: at this hour about the imminence of war? And the

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Speaker 1: headline from the Wall Street Journal yesterday, Times of Israel

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Speaker 1: today that President Trump is considering limited strike on Iran

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Speaker 1: to coax it into accepting deal on his terms, which

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Speaker 1: is the dumbest idea I've heard in many a months.

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Speaker 5: I'm very frustrated, Hugh. You know, if Trump wants to

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Speaker 5: establish a kind of deterrence for Iran to do terrible

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Speaker 5: things against its own people, I'm all for it.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't.

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Speaker 5: He failed to deter the slaughter, which he acknowledged just

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Speaker 5: then he says he has deterred the executions hanging by cranes.

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Speaker 5: But I would like some clarity for the American people.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I see both sides of the argument. I'm

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Speaker 5: not saying that he's violated in the Constitution. I understand

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Speaker 5: the war powers debates and Article two authorities for the

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Speaker 5: back to here's what our strategy is. I don't understand

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Speaker 5: the point about, like, you know, what are we negotiating?

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Speaker 5: When I hear nuclear in Richmond, They're not enriching anything

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Speaker 5: right now. We decimated their nuclear program. What is there

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Speaker 5: to talk about? And I'm not getting any clarity from Trump,

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Speaker 5: and I just would I think the American people deserve

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Speaker 5: this is what we plan to do?

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Speaker 2: Is it a regime change war? What are we talking about?

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Speaker 5: And I understand the ambiguity is helpful in a limited sense,

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Speaker 5: but I just think there are other values at stake.

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Speaker 5: I am getting frustrated, even though I still think he's

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Speaker 5: going to end up striking it run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not here next Friday. I'll talk to Kurt

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Speaker 1: schlector Eli. But when I come back the following Friday,

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Speaker 1: I believe by then war will have begun. It may

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Speaker 1: well be over and I don't believe it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a symbolic tap on the wrist. I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a massive, overwhelming first strike, because to

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Speaker 1: our allies at great risk. Because the iatolis are on

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Speaker 1: who's giving him that idea other than maybe more dust

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Speaker 1: in everybody's eyes. So that's what I think is happening.

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Speaker 1: But you don't have me be reporting one way or

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Speaker 5: No that I can't tell you. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 5: think anybody could do any reporting right now, Hugh. We

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Speaker 5: know who's the decider is it's Trump? We know generally,

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Speaker 5: we think we know where you know, people around him,

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Speaker 5: or what they're considering.

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Speaker 2: We can get a sense of what he's asked for.

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Speaker 5: We know that he's asked for significant war plans that

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Speaker 5: are far more than just a tap on the wrist.

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Speaker 5: I've reported that out and you've reported that. But I

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Speaker 5: don't think we know at this point the direction he's

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Speaker 5: of it. At a time like this, we would normally

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Speaker 5: you know, that's the kind of thing we would get. Instead,

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Speaker 5: we're relying on, you know, little bits of pieces here

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Speaker 5: and there when he does press conferences and background senior

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Speaker 2: I would like a little bit more clarity now.

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Speaker 1: I happen to believe it's a guess, right, it's a

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Speaker 1: complete guess. He's going to announce it during the State

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Speaker 1: electrifying effect. If he does it well. Rhetorically he can.

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Speaker 2: Be quite good.

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Speaker 1: He is often not focused and not quite good. But

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Speaker 1: if it's a short focus, if he doesn't, nobody cares

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Speaker 1: about tariffs except Donald Trump. Please don't make the State

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Speaker 1: if he just makes it about time Supreme Court, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, nobody really knows what the court ruled. I've

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Speaker 1: read it. Chief Justice said you can't do what you did,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't say what you can do and what

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Speaker 1: It's a punt disguised as a kickoff. It's not really

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Speaker 1: a kickoff, right.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't have a lot of insights into it.

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Speaker 5: I'm just disturbed when I see quotes from him about

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Speaker 1: Well, I haven't seen that one yet, but I haven't

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Speaker 1: gone through that taping stuff earlier. Let's go back to

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Speaker 1: an overwhelming force. Israel is allegedly on high alert, but

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Speaker 1: no change in instructions to the public. Does that really matter?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't the public know they might want to stay near

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Speaker 2: I think that's the case.

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Speaker 5: And the other thing is is that, I mean, they

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Speaker 5: penetration of Iran is so great right now. I Mean,

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Speaker 5: the one thing that I would want to know if

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Speaker 5: And Iran, I'm only interested in one thing. It's the

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Speaker 5: we're getting from him is that this is a negotiation

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Speaker 5: I'm disappointed?

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Speaker 1: You know, I am on the report tonight, special report panel,

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Speaker 1: and you always have to give winners and losers. And

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Speaker 1: my lining this week is Foreign Minister Arachi. Am I

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Speaker 1: pronouncing that correctly? Eli?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right Arachi?

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Speaker 1: Or he can't win. He's supposedly preparing a homework assignment

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Speaker 1: for the Americans, but the Eye toldally, we're going to

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Speaker 1: check his work before he turns it in, and if

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Speaker 1: it's a real concession, he'll be shot behind the barn.

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Speaker 1: If it's not a concession, you'll get bombed and killed

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Speaker 1: by the American. The guy's in a bad no win situation,

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Speaker 5: He could pull up Tarikazi's which is that he could

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Speaker 1: While you're gonna have to fill that in for dealers, fancy,

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Speaker 1: I got the joke, but they won't know who Tarikazi's is.

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Speaker 5: Tarikazi's was Saddam Hussein's foreign minister, and in the end

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Speaker 5: But I mean, the whole thing just seems like, why

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Speaker 5: are we going through this? There is not going to

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Speaker 5: be a deal. As you said, and as you've been

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Speaker 5: there's nothing to negotiate at this point. They're not enriching anything.

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Speaker 1: Either's smoking our eyes or wish casting. Eli, can you

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Speaker 1: wait for two more minutes. I got to ask you

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Speaker 1: I want to know what your reporting is on that.

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Speaker 1: I'll put it on the big weekend pod in America.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it, or I'll play it later in

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Speaker 1: the break. I'm back with Eli. I had one question

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Speaker 1: that no one's reporting on it, assuming for a moment

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Speaker 5: Well, we also have to worry about the reports at

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Speaker 2: So where is that?

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure that that's an important factor that we're

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Speaker 1: And a final question. There was a one off story

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Speaker 1: seen nothing since then. I know people who are on

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Speaker 1: Ali Sad they said, no, we're not sick. Did you

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Speaker 1: see that story? And is there anything to it?

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Speaker 5: I made okay, So I say I made a couple

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Speaker 5: of perfunctory compune calls. I didn't really dive into it,

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Speaker 5: but I was waved off of it as well. Okay,

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't mean I mean there may be something

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Speaker 5: I have not seen to follow up on it. But

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Speaker 5: the Twelve Day warn.

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Speaker 1: Anything on the discombobulator, Eli.

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Speaker 5: Well, I told you before my theory on that that

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Speaker 5: was a It was a technique plus a new technology

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Speaker 5: that was able to basically blind an opponent's command and control.

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Speaker 1: You said you're going to write some several hours, you

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Speaker 1: said you're going to write a piece.

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Speaker 5: Did I say it was? Well, I've been working on

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Speaker 5: some domestic political things. I've got a good piece on

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Speaker 5: Jesse Jackson coming out on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I hope you make a breaking history about Jesse. I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed Meetingum in person in ninety one and what a

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Speaker 1: skezophrenic political persona.

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Speaker 2: So good luck with that one.

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Speaker 1: Eli like always a pleasure breaking history. Always enjoy follow

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Speaker 1: him on exit, Eli Lake, stay tuned in America. Welcome back, America.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett. Continetti is a commis for The Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal. He is the head of domestic policy studies

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Speaker 1: at American Enterprise Institute, and when we are Lucky, he's

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Speaker 1: our guests for the Weekend Pod and the Weekend Review Show, Matt. Today,

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Speaker 1: Jan Crawford of CBS News declared that the tariff case

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Speaker 1: was quote the most significant US Supreme Court loss for

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Speaker 1: a US president I think in modern history.

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Speaker 2: Close quote Jeez.

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Speaker 1: I thought Nixon lost the tape case.

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Speaker 6: Matt, Yeah, and the Clinton decision on the grand jury

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Speaker 6: testimony that also had real repercussions for the Clinton's presidency.

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Speaker 6: This is a big blow to President Trump, There's no question.

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Speaker 6: Of course, he raised the stakes throughout the year as

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Speaker 6: this case was being litigated, saying that if the Supreme

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Speaker 6: Court knocked down his tariffs under APA, the country would

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Speaker 6: be destroyed.

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Speaker 7: Well, we're still here.

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Speaker 6: The country will exist, and in fact, as President Trump

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Speaker 6: pointed out, he's going to pursue his tariffs under different authorities.

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Speaker 6: I really think this decision came down to did the

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Speaker 6: President have the authority under this one statute to have

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Speaker 6: these extremely sweeping tariffs that he could set at any

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Speaker 6: level he wanted, and not have to submit them to

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Speaker 6: review by either the judiciary or the legislature, and the

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Speaker 6: six to three majority, with the Chief Justice Roberts writing

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Speaker 6: the decision, found that he did not have authority under

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Speaker 6: this one statute, but he has authority under other statutes, Hue,

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Speaker 6: and he's about to use it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, I was predicting a big punt by the court

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Speaker 1: that they would just kick it all back and say

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Speaker 1: sort them out between the nationals. They just didn't. They

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Speaker 1: struck them all down. But it's still a punt because

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Speaker 1: the Chief Justice said they can't do it, and then

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Speaker 1: he didn't tell us what happens everything that's been done,

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Speaker 1: or the terriff trade treaties that have been agreed to,

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Speaker 1: or the other authorities. It's a very very modest decision

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Speaker 1: that simply says the IAAP may not be used in

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Speaker 1: the way President Trump is used it, but it doesn't

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Speaker 1: tell us about anything else. So I kind of think

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of hazah about not much.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I do think it's it's a major decision,

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Speaker 6: and President Trump put a lot of effort into this

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Speaker 6: policy and really kind of backed it to the hilt,

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Speaker 6: and I think they are going to have to go

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Speaker 6: back to the drawing board on some of these tariffs.

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Speaker 6: But you know, we don't talk about it much here,

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Speaker 6: but the fact is after Liberation Day last April, where

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Speaker 6: these reciprocal tariffs were imposed on every country in the world,

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Speaker 6: including uninhabited islands where they were only penguins, the administration

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Speaker 6: has course really kind of clawed back.

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Speaker 7: A lot of the tariffs and they imposed.

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Speaker 6: And so if we get the ten percent global tariff

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Speaker 6: that Trump is now going to pursue under a different

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Speaker 6: statutory means when where I think he'll have a stronger case,

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Speaker 6: that's not too much different from the about fifteen percent

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Speaker 6: average tariff we have on most countries right now. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I guess in that sense, you're a claim that maybe

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Speaker 6: this is much ado about nothing is supported.

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Speaker 1: Here's the nut of the ruling. Chief Justice Roberts, right.

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Speaker 1: Our task today is to decide only whether the power

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Speaker 1: to quote regulate importation close quote as granted to the president,

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Speaker 1: and I ee PA embraces the power to impose tariffs.

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Speaker 1: It does not. That's the whole ruling, Matt. And so

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Speaker 1: there's so many ways out around and over and under

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Speaker 1: that ruling that I think the President was way too

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Speaker 1: ticked off.

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Speaker 7: That's more.

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Speaker 6: My favorite thing about this decision, Hugh, is that if

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Speaker 6: you read it, Chief Justice Roberts says that this law,

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Speaker 6: the AIPA, says that the president has the authority to

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Speaker 6: regulate trade and given emergencies. But Chief Justice Roberts says

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Speaker 6: it does not give him the authority to tax trade

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Speaker 6: in an emergency. Well, where if we heard that language

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Speaker 6: before from Chief Justice Roberts.

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Speaker 2: In the o BI.

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Speaker 1: I remember Decision twelve.

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Speaker 6: Yes Obamacare, the difference between a regulation and attacks. In

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Speaker 6: that case, the mandate was a regulation and not attacks,

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Speaker 6: and therefore it was constitutional. In this case, the tariffs

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Speaker 6: are attacks, not a regulation, therefore they're unconstitutional. All we

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Speaker 6: know is that Chief Justice Roberts, a landmark figure in

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Speaker 6: any ways, pays very close attention to the difference between

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Speaker 6: a regulation and attacks.

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Speaker 2: He is a landmark figure.

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Speaker 1: I know he gets a lot agree from our team,

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Speaker 1: but he's a very appropriately modest officer of the federal judiciary.

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Speaker 1: And I can't I haven't read Justice Kavanaugh's opinion yet,

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Speaker 1: because I would have thought Kavanaugh was with the six

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Speaker 1: given the major questions doctrine and is ruling on Chevron.

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Speaker 1: But he's with the three and I just don't know

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Speaker 1: what to make of this. I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: end up being one that we skip over in a

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Speaker 1: hurry and con lock Hay case books in the future.

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Speaker 1: But it does the president a little bit, but it's

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Speaker 1: not a slam down. He's not going to jail. However,

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Speaker 1: if he does this, I have a theory, Matt Continent,

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Speaker 1: We're going to lose the House, the Republicans being we

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Speaker 1: this will be an article of impeachment as well, ignoring TikTok,

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Speaker 1: They're just piling up articles of impeachment for the House.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with me?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean I think it would be a

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Speaker 6: weak article of impeachment because Trump isn't defying the Supreme

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Speaker 6: Court all once again, all the talk about Trump being

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Speaker 6: a dictator out of control, the Supreme Court rules, he obeys.

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Speaker 6: That's Donald Trump. He's just going to pursue another message.

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Speaker 6: So I think the Democrats are going to impeach him

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Speaker 6: on other grounds.

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Speaker 1: I will talk impeachment during the break, and then Matt

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Speaker 1: will be back to talking Iran after the break. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Back in the days when Matt Continent, he was a

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Speaker 1: regular panelist on the commentary podcast. He would also often

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Speaker 1: point out that the TikTok statue was not being enforced

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Speaker 1: by the president. I think that was you, Matt, wasn't it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've pointed it out on several occasions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you think that's an impeachable offense not to

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Speaker 1: execute the laws of the United States has written.

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Speaker 6: This would be something that I do think the Congress

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Speaker 6: Democratic Congress would raise and have inquiries not adjusted to

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Speaker 6: why the law wasn't obeyed, but also the structure of

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Speaker 6: the deal that has been announced. It's still unclear actually

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Speaker 6: where we stand in the TikTok's ownership or actually whether

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Speaker 6: China will really be giving up control of the algorithm,

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Speaker 6: the secret sauce at all. I think I expect TikTok

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Speaker 6: to be up there with crypto in terms of the

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Speaker 6: most heavily investigated subjects. Under a Democratic Congress.

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Speaker 1: This is what I see happening. I think we're going

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Speaker 1: to lose the House because that's just the tie title

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Speaker 1: charts of American history. They got nothing to do because

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Speaker 1: you'll veto anything even if they got the Senate, and

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Speaker 1: so all they can do is impeachment, and that's a

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Speaker 1: lot of fund and it raises a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to impeach them on Like Nixon was

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Speaker 1: impeached on four different things. People only remember Watergate, but

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Speaker 1: he was impeached for bombing Cambodi. Yeah, he was impeached

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Speaker 1: for I can't remember what the other obstruction of justice.

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Speaker 1: He was impeached on many different things. I think they're

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Speaker 1: just going to go on an impeachment parade. Matt good

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Speaker 1: or bad for their party.

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Speaker 6: I think, well, it would be bad for their party

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Speaker 6: in the long run. I think it's where their party

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Speaker 6: is right now. Hugh, there's no question. And I think

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Speaker 6: a lot of Democrats are going to run this year

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Speaker 6: on elect Us to check Trump.

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Speaker 7: Trump needs a constraint.

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Speaker 6: A Democratic House will be a constraint on Donald Trump.

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Speaker 6: But of course voters might want Trump to be a

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Speaker 6: little bit more constrained. But I don't think they're interested

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Speaker 6: in another impeachment drag out fight. And so I think

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Speaker 6: actually Republicans might have an argument there to say, no, Look,

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Speaker 6: they're talking a good game, but do we really want

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Speaker 6: to live through another impeachment process. Donald Trump's third for

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Speaker 6: the next two years, and we have much more pressing

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Speaker 6: concerns and I think you'll be the crux of the argument.

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Speaker 1: They'll raise so much money they cannot not do it.

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Speaker 1: The consultants will make so much money, Matt. Finally, Alexandria

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Speaker 1: Casio Cortes Whitmer's out she'd dumb. But AOC, as Josh

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Speaker 1: Holmes pointed out on this show, when she dismissed the

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Speaker 1: idea that the Spaniards brought horses to the United States,

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Speaker 1: he said, you know, her last name is Cortes, which

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Speaker 1: I found very amusing. But she also made a comment

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Speaker 1: about the enslaved African Americans. Want a word, What in

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Speaker 1: the world did that mean? They didn't bring any horses

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Speaker 1: with them on the slave ships.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm still trying to figure out AOC's answer on

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Speaker 6: whether she would defend Taiwan if China invaded. I mean,

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Speaker 6: that was an incredible word salad. She looked as though

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Speaker 6: she were a contestant on who wants to be a millionaire?

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Speaker 6: You know, she wanted to ask if she could call

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Speaker 6: a lifeline for an answer, but unfortunately rechs Fhilbin wasn't available.

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Speaker 7: So I think she really took.

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Speaker 6: A hit in terms of her political fortunes this year

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Speaker 6: at Munich over the weekend. Que she has time to recover,

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Speaker 6: but it's going to be hard to escape the fact

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Speaker 6: that she avoids tough interviews. And if that was too

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Speaker 6: tough for her, imagine what the future might hold.

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Speaker 1: Oh please God send her to me. I'll be right

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Speaker 1: back with Matt Contenetty. Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewett.

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Speaker 1: Matt Contenetty is my guest. She's had a domestic policy

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Speaker 1: Studi's at the American Enterprise Instute. He's a columnist for

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, and he's a contributor most Fridays

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Speaker 1: here on the program. And I appreciate that, Matt. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: the Journal ran late in the day the story that

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Speaker 1: has now been picked up by the Times of Israel

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Speaker 1: with this headline. Trump says considering limited strike on Iran

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Speaker 1: to coax it into accepting deal on his terms. I

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Speaker 1: don't believe it because it's so stupid, because he's not stupid.

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Speaker 1: If they hit Iran with a pop gun, Iran could

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Speaker 1: go off on Israel with everything they've got. It's got

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Speaker 1: to be a massive preemptive first striker or no strike

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Speaker 1: at all. Do you agree with me?

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Speaker 7: I think you're right.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's telling, isn't it that the leaks aren't

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Speaker 6: about Trump not striking, They're about the severity.

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Speaker 7: And timing of a structure to have.

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Speaker 6: So I think that that in itself suggests that the

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Speaker 6: White House is pretty set on a particular course of

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Speaker 6: intervention against Iran. I think I think anything America does

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Speaker 6: is going to have to be broad. It's going to

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Speaker 6: have to be pretty sudden and pretty fierce. Let's not forget, though,

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Speaker 6: the Iranian air defense system is as severely, severely weakened

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Speaker 6: still from the Twelve Day War, and so America and

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Speaker 6: then if Israel joins a fight as well, I will

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Speaker 6: have I think air superiority pretty rapidly.

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Speaker 1: And I allow a Greenway on the program on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Arci Greenway from Heritage is Allison Center, former NSCA for

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Speaker 1: DIA Special Forces. He said, probably if there's a more

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Speaker 1: dangerous place to be in the world than on an

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Speaker 1: Iranian submarine, he doesn't know of it. I do believe

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Speaker 1: all of their navy and their five submarines and all

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Speaker 1: of that will go down to the bottom of the

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Speaker 1: ocean in round one, because we're not going to let

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Speaker 1: them get near our ships. You agree with that assessment.

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Speaker 6: Matt, Yeah, I mean I imagine that anyone at the

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Speaker 6: Pentagon planning this type of operation is going to say,

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Speaker 6: the first thing we need to do is make sure

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Speaker 6: that the Iranian capacity to retaliate against our forces and

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Speaker 6: against the Israeli civilian population will be diminished. So that means, yeah,

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Speaker 6: going after the navy, going after the air defense system,

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Speaker 6: going after the missiles and the missile launchers in particular,

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Speaker 6: because you know, the missiles are no good if you

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Speaker 6: don't have a launcher. But then you know, I've also

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Speaker 6: been thinking a lot, Hugh, we need to pay attention

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Speaker 6: to the Huthis because the Iranians have different ways of

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Speaker 6: retaliation and they still have this proxy network. Of course,

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Speaker 6: there's Hesbolas been defanged in Lebanon, but still.

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Speaker 7: Could cause some trouble for Israel. But the Houthis, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, they're still there in Yemen and they can still

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Speaker 6: threaten the Gulf of Aiden as well of our as

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Speaker 6: our naval assets. They've been weakened, for sure, that's our operation.

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Speaker 6: Rough writer did that last year, But I assume the

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Speaker 6: Pentagons has an eye on the Houthis as well.

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Speaker 7: If we enter conflict with Iran.

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Speaker 1: I was only in the Beltway for a week. I

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Speaker 1: did not have a chance to talk to people who

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Speaker 1: wouldn't know. But Mohammed bin Zayad, who's the ruler of

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Speaker 1: the Emerds, Uae and Bahrain and the leader of the

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Speaker 1: Gulf states that are smaller other than Gutter, is allegedly

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Speaker 1: at loggerheads with NBS, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of that, because they've always been

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Speaker 1: as thick as allies could be.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 6: I think it's another byproduct you of Iranian weakness that

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Speaker 6: we spent the past decade or so with the empowered

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Speaker 6: extending its tentacles into Iraq, into Syria, into Lebanon, and

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Speaker 6: into Yemen. As I just said, with the Huthis and

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Speaker 6: all the other powers in the Middle East were aligning

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Speaker 6: against Iran. Well after the Twelve Day War, after Operation

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Speaker 6: Midnight Hammer, after Operation Rising Lion, and the Israeli war

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Speaker 6: on Hesbalah and Hamas, Iran is weak, and what we've

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Speaker 6: seen as a result is that the other powers are

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Speaker 6: beginning to flex and change their alignments.

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Speaker 7: In the region.

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Speaker 6: That means that NBS, the leader of Saudi Arabia, he's

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Speaker 6: become much more of a wary of Israel than one

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Speaker 6: might expect.

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Speaker 7: We see Airdiwan and Turkey.

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Speaker 6: He's trying to assert himself in Syria, and yes, a

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Speaker 6: power like the UAE and NBZ, they're going to try

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Speaker 6: to cut against the Saudis in their own way, and

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Speaker 6: they of course they have a dispute over Yemen as well.

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Speaker 6: So you know, ironically, the weak in Iran is better

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Speaker 6: for America, it's better for Israel, it's better for the world,

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Speaker 6: but it's actually contributing to a more chaotic landscape.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is very clarifying though, Ua, which General Mattis

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Speaker 1: is always called Little Sparta, has fought alongside us in

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Speaker 1: every theater since the Long War began, and their special

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Speaker 1: forces are pretty good UAE and they have a good

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one. Also clarifying, we got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: c big planes I think they're one thirty five parked

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Speaker 1: in Serbia, non in Serbia, in Bulgaria at Sofia Airport,

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Speaker 1: and we're not allowed to use the airports in United Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: How clarifying a moment is this, Matt Well, it's.

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Speaker 6: Just another sign that the starmer government in the United

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Speaker 6: chaos in turbula. What's happening in the UK right now.

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Speaker 6: It's sad, you know, for our great ally of Great

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Speaker 6: Britain to say that we can't use are bases there

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Speaker 6: against Iran. And Ron threatens not just the Middle East,

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Speaker 6: not just Israel, It threatens Europe, it threatens the United States.

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Speaker 6: You have this apocalyptic millennial power driven by radical Islamic

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Speaker 6: fundamentalism that has done nothing but so chaos. Terrorism, kill

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Speaker 6: innocent people, kill its own people, pursue the world's most

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Speaker 6: deadly weapon, a reckoning against the Mullahs in Tehran. Is

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Speaker 6: in the American interest, it's in the British interests, it

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Speaker 6: is in everyone's interest. So it's very sad to see

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Speaker 6: some of our closest allies say that they won't be

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Speaker 6: a part of it. Other European powers, yeah, other European

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Speaker 6: powers are i think moving into position where they could

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Speaker 6: contribute to Poland.

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Speaker 1: But if the United Kingdom does this, does that not

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Speaker 1: assist the so called restraint are anti NATO people. I've

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Speaker 1: allayn pro NATO, but this is an argument against NATO

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Speaker 1: if they're not going to help.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well, you know it's I think that's something

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Speaker 6: too that if they really do stick with the current position,

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Speaker 6: you know, as we know, once once fighting starts, things

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Speaker 6: coming to aid America, if they're not proving good on

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Speaker 6: the commitments they've made to increase defense spending, then it

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Speaker 6: does empower people who say, what is the purpose of NATO?

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Speaker 6: But I think that's you know, the more pressing concern

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Speaker 6: is is President Trump prepared to explain to the United

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Speaker 6: American people at the State of the Union next week

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Speaker 6: what is at stake in Iran, what the potential cost

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Speaker 1: Remember when the State of the Union's on President Reagan

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Speaker 1: Com slash shoot. Welcome back America, Morning, Glory and evening grace.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt on this Week in Review program. Ben

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Speaker 1: Dominis joins me. It's been a very busy week. Ben Dominic,

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Speaker 1: host of the Big Ben Podcast, is also well. Ben,

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Speaker 1: would you give me the URL for the Big Ben Podcast?

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Speaker 1: I always screwed up. It's a Fox News but it's

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Speaker 1: got its own url.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's you can go to radio dot foxnews dot

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Speaker 10: com and you'll find it along with all of our

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Speaker 10: other podcasts. But you can and you can follow our

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Speaker 10: social Instagram and on the X at Big Ben Show, Fox.

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Speaker 1: Big Ben Show Fox. All right, Ben, let's start with

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Speaker 1: the Tariff earthquake on the assumption that while I was

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Speaker 1: taping earlier today, war is not broken out yet? Am

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Speaker 1: I right about that? War is not broken out?

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Speaker 10: Not as we are currently talking? All right, gret war

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Speaker 10: war were not yet declared.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it may or may.

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Speaker 1: Not happen during this show or during the week I'm

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Speaker 1: off up next week. Of course, that means the war

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Speaker 1: will happen when I'm off.

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Speaker 10: Next That one hundred percent means it will happen next week.

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Speaker 10: Put your bets in the prediction markets. Now, will Iran

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Speaker 10: war happen while you is off?

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Speaker 1: There you go, people can go right tell whatever that is.

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Speaker 1: President Trump said thirty two thousand people were killed from

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Speaker 1: the Iran protest today. I think he's low. The Crown

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Speaker 1: Prince told me thirty five five to forty doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: The point is he gets the regime will come to

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Speaker 1: the tariff rolling in a second, Do you think he's

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Speaker 1: going to get the regime since he gets the regime.

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Speaker 10: I believe he is. And I think that one of

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Speaker 10: the things that we have been paying attention to over

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Speaker 10: the course of the past week is simply the movement

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Speaker 10: of American resources and material. You do not have the

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Speaker 10: kind of representation of the American armed forces in that

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Speaker 10: area for an extended amount of time. You've got such

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Speaker 10: a significant portion of the US Navy there right now,

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Speaker 10: and that's they're not just there to sit around and

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Speaker 10: in terms of trying to get the Iranians to come

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Speaker 10: to a deal, I think that the Iranians are dug in.

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Speaker 10: I think the regime really does not, you know, have

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Speaker 10: to the end. And that creates a very difficult situation

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Speaker 10: for Donald Trump to do anything, I think, other than

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Speaker 10: to pursue what has been our policy as regards around

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 10: The President obviously has his own misgivings about this. His

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Speaker 10: whole political career is in large part due to the

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Speaker 10: fact that he was someone who is willing to go

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Speaker 10: and criticize the regime change wars that have been you know,

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Speaker 10: the bread and butter for a number of years under

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Speaker 10: George W. Bush, something that certainly a lot of Americans

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Speaker 10: disagreed with in the aftermath. I always try to remind

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Speaker 10: them how popular they were at the time that they

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Speaker 10: were launched. But it's one of the things that I think,

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Speaker 10: you know, was critical to his career. But in this

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Speaker 10: particular moment, he's facing a situation which is very different

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Speaker 10: than the other foreign policy decisions where he's pulled the trigger.

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Speaker 10: He has made the decision to go and expel trait.

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Speaker 10: You know, a leader in Nicholas Maduro who obviously was

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Speaker 10: going to be difficult to do, but he did it

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Speaker 10: without the loss of a single American life. The achievement

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Speaker 10: when it came to the setting back the Iranian nuclear

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Speaker 10: program obviously impressive, unbelievable. What went into that. Those were

869
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Speaker 10: fundamentally different than what you would be dealing with in

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Speaker 10: this situation. I think the President knows that. It's why

871
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Speaker 10: he's been a bit hesitant. But if the Iranian regime

872
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Speaker 10: is as dug in as they seem to be. I

873
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Speaker 10: don't think that there's really another decision here. I think

874
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Speaker 10: it's already been made for him to a certain extent.

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Speaker 1: Now, yesterday the Wall Street Journal ran a story that

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Speaker 1: I thought and said yesterday at the time, that doesn't

877
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Speaker 1: make any sense that Donald Trump would do a symbolic

878
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Speaker 1: strike in an effort to bring them back to the table.

879
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Speaker 1: That would I think unleash as everything that Iran has.

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Speaker 1: I think they're on a hair train. Yeah, so you've

881
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Speaker 1: got to either preemptively strike them with everything or not

882
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Speaker 1: strike them at all. That's my exactly what you.

883
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Speaker 10: Are you've got to do, is you've got to do

884
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Speaker 10: the whole thing or not do anything. I don't believe

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Speaker 10: in the idea that there would be some kind of

886
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Speaker 10: symbolic gesture here, because, as you said, they would respond vociferously,

887
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Speaker 10: and I think that you would see American lives as

888
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Speaker 10: part of the penalty for whatever was done. And understanding

889
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Speaker 10: that that's a very real risk, I believe that you

890
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Speaker 10: actually have to do you have to go the full

891
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Speaker 10: thing if you're going to do it at all, and

892
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Speaker 10: there seems to be in this administration they believe that

893
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Speaker 10: this is a moment that is unique, where the regime

894
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Speaker 10: is as weak as it has ever been and certainly

895
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Speaker 10: within my lifetime, and that you have the type of

896
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Speaker 10: opportunity here that rarely presents itself, and as well that

897
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Speaker 10: the degree to which there has been a human cost

898
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Speaker 10: to this, we should not underestimate this. By the way,

899
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Speaker 10: Donald Trump always talks about that. I don't know why

900
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Speaker 10: people don't pay more attention to it. He talks about

901
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Speaker 10: human loss when it comes to these wars, including in

902
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Speaker 10: the Ukraine, with a difference than a different attitude than

903
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Speaker 10: I think we hear from a lot of other politicians,

904
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Speaker 10: as it's something that I think weighs on him to

905
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Speaker 10: a certain degree. That you know, the idea that if

906
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Speaker 10: I had made a different decision, or if others had

907
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 10: made different decisions, this could have been avoided, or we

908
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Speaker 10: could have had less of a loss of innocent human life,

909
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Speaker 10: particularly as regards these protesters, And like, I don't think

910
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Speaker 10: we should underestimate that as motivating.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you said that. I have said

912
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Speaker 1: repeatedly he's the most visual president. Cerebral people read, visual

913
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Speaker 1: people look, and when he looks and he sees, for example,

914
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Speaker 1: he ordered the first strike against Syria after he saw

915
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Speaker 1: children choking to death. He ordered the second strike. That's

916
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Speaker 1: the same reason against Syria. He looks at the Ukraine pictures.

917
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Speaker 1: He now looked at the pictures of thirty two thousand

918
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Speaker 1: people massacred. He is very visual developers are they just

919
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Speaker 1: see stuff. I've worked for enough of them over the

920
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Speaker 1: years when I was a lawyer. They're visual people, and

921
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Speaker 1: he reacts to visual stuff.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I think that that's true here, as it

923
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Speaker 10: is true with a lot of the other decisions that

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Speaker 10: he makes. I will just in the side say, as

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Speaker 10: a developer, he has to enjoy the fact that the

926
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Speaker 10: Obama Museum so ugly, the way that it's the ugliest

927
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Speaker 10: thing I've ever seen, so ugly, so ugly. But frankly,

928
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Speaker 10: I think it's kind of consulting. Like I mean, Obama

929
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Speaker 10: was it was a bad president from my perspective, but

930
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Speaker 10: it's like, wow, this is really bad.

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Speaker 2: This is really bad.

932
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Speaker 1: And you know, they had their pick of anyone in

933
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Speaker 1: the world would have done that, and they have this

934
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Speaker 1: great I know the space, it's where the Chicago World

935
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Speaker 1: Fair was and I visited the Unity of Chicago. It's

936
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Speaker 1: a beautiful space. They could have done anything, and they

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Speaker 1: built the Martian landing craft that got banged up by

938
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Speaker 1: a meteor on the way here. Let's turn now to

939
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Speaker 1: the big news of the day. Assuming we aren't overtaken

940
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Speaker 1: by tonight and Saturday night by a war, and that

941
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Speaker 1: is John Roberts and five other justices said not now,

942
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Speaker 1: not ever, and ever, you can't do tariffs, and it

943
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Speaker 1: was it's not very clear about what happens next. President

944
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Speaker 1: Trump wlaited about two hours, walked out and said, effective immediately,

945
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Speaker 1: all national security tariffs under Section two three two in

946
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Speaker 1: all existing Terra Section three oh one tariffs remain fully

947
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Speaker 1: in place and in full effect. Today I will sign

948
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Speaker 1: in order to impose a ten percent global terriff under

949
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Speaker 1: Section one two two, over and above our normal tariffs

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Speaker 1: already being charged.

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Speaker 2: Now that is a direct quote.

952
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Speaker 1: I have no idea if what that means or what

953
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Speaker 1: if he can do it, then what's it means that.

954
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Speaker 10: You I wish that you did, because I'm not going

955
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Speaker 10: to be the one to say it all rast for you. Unfortunately,

956
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Speaker 10: I don't know what that means either. And one of

957
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Speaker 10: the other things that I don't know is is this

958
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Speaker 10: a situation where we are going to just have the

959
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Speaker 10: president doing something and then having these having to have

960
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Speaker 10: it work through these processes because you know, all over again,

961
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Speaker 10: because this is this is a situation that Congress itself

962
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Speaker 10: is incapable of resolving. They do not have the ability

963
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Speaker 10: to resolve this just given the makeup as they currently.

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Speaker 1: It's an impeachable offense. Yeah, you see that that Immediately

965
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Speaker 1: I thought, oh, he doesn't care. I's gonna get impeached

966
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Speaker 1: anyway for not doing the TikTok law. He's going to

967
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Speaker 1: get impeached for not listening the court on the tariffs.

968
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Speaker 1: But he doesn't care.

969
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's no longer a threat. It's like, oh, yeah,

970
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Speaker 10: what you know, I get three now? Okay, well, you

971
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Speaker 10: know whatever called me in the morning. The thing, the

972
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Speaker 10: thing that I think is interesting.

973
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Speaker 2: Though about this is.

974
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Speaker 10: This is one of those issues where if we had

975
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Speaker 10: a functional Congress, if we have the ability for them

976
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Speaker 10: to work through this, then you could have a tariff

977
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Speaker 10: process that is more orderly and that and where you

978
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Speaker 10: know certain there there's certain expectations about what we're doing. Instead,

979
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Speaker 10: we are stuck in this situation where people are getting

980
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Speaker 10: jerked around. And I had a bunch of people, you know,

981
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Speaker 10: texting me just you know, as this decision came down,

982
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Speaker 10: saying what does this mean for what's already.

983
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Speaker 2: Been in effect?

984
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Speaker 10: You know what about clawback situations and lawsuits that are

985
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Speaker 10: you know, a fallout because of this decision. And the

986
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Speaker 10: truth is I just don't know the answer to that.

987
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Speaker 2: It's well, I.

988
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: Read as quickly as I could the Chief Justice's opinion

989
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: and excerpts of the other The Chief Justice does not

990
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: answer that question. No, classic Supreme Court, The question before

991
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Speaker 1: us is whether he can do it. The answer is no.

992
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next case. And there's no nothing,

993
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: not even a clue. Now, by the way, it's remanded

994
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Speaker 1: to the court a client for further proceeding consistent with

995
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Speaker 1: his opinion. I don't know what that means.

996
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 10: Yeah, this is this is I think going to be

997
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Speaker 10: quite chaotic, and I'm not I'm not sure what's going

998
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Speaker 10: to be the outcome of this. But one thing that

999
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Speaker 10: I would point out is that the President is not

1000
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Speaker 10: wrong when he says that his teriff for GI has

1001
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Speaker 10: not resulted in the in the effects that so many

1002
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Speaker 10: of the doomsayers, including by the way at the Journal,

1003
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Speaker 10: who were predicting, you know, utter catastrophe because of it

1004
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Speaker 10: that has not happened. And we have seen decisions made

1005
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Speaker 10: because of an in response to these parists that are

1006
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Speaker 10: logical decisions and that you know, I think have some

1007
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 10: predictability to them. But now I think all that gets

1008
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Speaker 10: chucked into a cocktac.

1009
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Speaker 1: I have a talk with Ben during the break. He'll

1010
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Speaker 1: be back on the other side. If you don't talk

1011
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: about the Olympics on the other side, but during the break,

1012
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to him about the markets and oil.

1013
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: So don't Cony or America. If you want to listen

1014
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: to it all. It's on the Big Weekend Pod when

1015
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: it posts tonight of the month. I'm back with Ben Dominich. Now, Ben,

1016
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: after the terrorists were announced, the markets were up and down,

1017
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Speaker 1: up and down. Right now gold is up by about

1018
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Speaker 1: two percent, Crude oil is up by a little bit,

1019
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: and all the markets are well off. That crude has

1020
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Speaker 1: gone up to sixty six and a half bucks. The

1021
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Speaker 1: oil markets think there's are war coming, right.

1022
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Speaker 10: They definitely do, and that's being priced into that as

1023
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Speaker 10: an indication. Look, I don't think that you need a

1024
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 10: prediction market in order to see that that's happening, and

1025
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Speaker 10: that it's going to happen soon. I believe at this

1026
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Speaker 10: point it would be surprised if it doesn't happen. And

1027
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Speaker 10: I don't say that with any particular happiness, but I

1028
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Speaker 10: think that we have gotten to this point because of

1029
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Speaker 10: every decision that the regime has made that has led

1030
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Speaker 10: it to it. It could have backed off in so

1031
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 10: many different ways. It could have tried to do another deal.

1032
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Speaker 10: I think that Donald Trump probably would have been receptive

1033
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Speaker 10: to a deal that a lot of Republicans, including our

1034
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Speaker 10: friend Tom Cotton, would have criticized, you know, But in

1035
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Speaker 10: this case, because of their unwillingness to really even entertain

1036
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Speaker 10: any of those ideas, they have now put themselves into

1037
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Speaker 10: the target sphere. And that's going to be something that

1038
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Speaker 10: I think will ultimately lead to the end of this

1039
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Speaker 10: regime one way or another. Now that doesn't mean that

1040
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 10: what comes next is going to be you know all

1041
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Speaker 10: you know, honey and roses. But it's one of these

1042
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Speaker 10: things where the the ultimate I think blame for this

1043
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Speaker 10: is the fact that they have misjudged, as so many

1044
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Speaker 10: other people have, Donald Trump and his resolves and what

1045
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Speaker 10: he prioritizes, and when it became clear that he had

1046
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Speaker 10: been convinced by a number of people around him, including

1047
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Speaker 10: I believe Secretary Rubio, that this is that this is

1048
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Speaker 10: a moment in which something good can actually happen that

1049
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Speaker 10: will help remake the Middle East. And you know, I

1050
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 10: think that you know, Jared Kushner has wow. I mean,

1051
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Speaker 10: talk about the role that he has played in not

1052
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Speaker 10: one but two Trump terms in terms of what he's

1053
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Speaker 10: been able to do there. I believe that this is

1054
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Speaker 10: going to be, you know, a legacy making decision one

1055
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Speaker 10: way or the other, and the President is going to

1056
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Speaker 10: have to reckon with the fact though that there's going

1057
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Speaker 10: to be a lot of people who supported him early

1058
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Speaker 10: on who are going to be very dubious about this,

1059
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Speaker 10: and we're going to raise concerns that he has been

1060
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Speaker 10: you know, had people in his ear again including Secretary

1061
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Speaker 10: of Rubio, who he should not been listening to, and

1062
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Speaker 10: that they wanted to to have a foreign policy that

1063
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Speaker 10: was less active, that was less willing to lean into

1064
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Speaker 10: even opportunities like this victory.

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Speaker 1: Has a thousand fathers and seventy seven million voters. We'll

1066
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Speaker 1: talk about that after it happens, if it happens. Coming

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Speaker 1: right back with Ben Dominich Stay Tunes Welcome Back America.

1068
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Speaker 1: If you want to catch what I talked to Ben

1069
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Speaker 1: dominic about during the break, you have to listen the

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Speaker 1: Big Weekend Pod. Ben two questions. One is about the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: But first fourth quarter growth was only one point four

1072
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Speaker 1: percent at an annual rate. I thought it was supposed

1073
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Speaker 1: to be five percent. What happened?

1074
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Speaker 10: I mean, I think that we have seen a turn

1075
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Speaker 10: in this economy that is unfortunate, and it's one of

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Speaker 10: the reasons why the Republican ideas that have been infecting

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Speaker 10: them of late in Washington that things perhaps are not

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Speaker 10: as bad when it comes to the midterm elections. That

1079
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Speaker 10: they have a bunch of silver linings that keep getting

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Speaker 10: pointed out to me by staffers and folks who've been

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Speaker 10: trying to convince themselves that the big, beautiful bill it's

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Speaker 10: going to is going to write the ship, you know,

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Speaker 10: internally and for their future. I think that they have

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Speaker 10: a much bigger hill to climb, especially with the in

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Speaker 10: the minds of the American people than we expected. I

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Speaker 10: don't think that they they can look around and say,

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Speaker 10: you know, energy costs or low gas costs are low.

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Speaker 10: All these different prices for food goods, you know, are

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Speaker 10: our staples are lower than they were when President Trump

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Speaker 10: got into office, but there's still not low enough. That's

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Speaker 10: the point that I keep making about those things. The

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Speaker 10: gas price thing, I think is you know, a huge

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Speaker 10: boon to them. I think they should lean more and

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Speaker 10: more into it, especially in contrast with the agenda that

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Speaker 10: Democrats are offering. And quite quite frankly, I think it's

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Speaker 10: perfect that they chose someone like Governor Spamberger to be

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Speaker 10: the opposing voice. Following the State of the Union, I

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Speaker 10: realized those things don't always get a lot of attention,

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Speaker 10: except as fodder for for humor when they go badly.

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Speaker 10: But I do think that in this case there is

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Speaker 10: a real contrast. And you know, for someone who runs

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Speaker 10: on affordability and then embraces an agenda that's only going

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Speaker 10: to increase energy costs and the like, that's something that

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Speaker 10: Republicans should be highlighting about Democrats. They should be leaning

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Speaker 10: into it and saying, look, we are headed in the

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Speaker 10: right direction. It's not as good as we would like

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Speaker 10: it to be. It needs more time in order to

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Speaker 10: work and to have an effect on the economy that

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Speaker 10: we believe will happen. We have faith in this, but

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Speaker 10: we I think that there should be more done at

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Speaker 10: this point by the Congress to try to get something

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Speaker 10: else across the finish line before November that people can

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Speaker 10: point to to say, this is another thing that's going

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Speaker 10: to be helpful beyond just folks getting better tax refiles.

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Speaker 1: Now Q two first Trump quarter gross with three point

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Speaker 1: eight percent, second quarter four point four percent, and the

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Speaker 1: astimates after that came out was you might hit five

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Speaker 1: percent in Q four and it goes down to one

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Speaker 1: point four percent, and they're blaming the shutdown. I did

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Speaker 1: not think the shutdown could have that kind of thing

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Speaker 1: a sequence to you.

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Speaker 10: I did not, and I'm still not sure that it did.

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Speaker 10: I think that you know, this is this is one

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Speaker 10: of those areas where, you know, people like to blame

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Speaker 10: government shutdowns on all manner of things, but I don't.

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Speaker 10: I'm not entirely convinced that it has as big of

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Speaker 10: an effect on the economy as some people do.

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Speaker 1: Now, okay, last topic. I'm doing special reports night winners

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Speaker 1: and losers, and my winner, I'll tell you in the

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Speaker 1: audience will hear, but it'll still surprise most Fox News

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Speaker 1: is the American women's talking team, because that may be

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Speaker 1: the most thrilling victory.

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Speaker 10: That was fantastic, wasn't it. And well, have you seen

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Speaker 10: what the Canadians put out?

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Speaker 2: They got a bunny?

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Speaker 10: No, no, no, the Canadians. The Canadians be tweeted out

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Speaker 10: silver shines just as bright. Oh no, the Canadian single

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Speaker 10: or talk about I'm sorry, that sounds like what a

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Speaker 10: loser says.

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Speaker 1: That is so bad. I saw the film of them

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Speaker 1: getting a bunny or a stuffed animal, and everyone looked

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Speaker 1: like they wanted to stuff it down the throat of

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Speaker 1: the presenter because they you know, it hurts, It really hurts.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to get a silver medal. I mean they

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Speaker 1: do later, but they don't want to. And I still,

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Speaker 1: you're a hockey guy, right, yes, I am, okay. So

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Speaker 1: whatever that that Keller did with Megan Keller, right, Megan Mallard, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Megan Keller, what.

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Speaker 10: Does she do?

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Speaker 1: I still, I've watched it twenty times.

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Speaker 2: Is that normal?

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Speaker 10: No, that's not that's not normal. I've not I've not

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Speaker 10: seen that move for especially from a woman's team, that

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Speaker 10: I can recall. But I will tell you this, there's

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Speaker 10: just something so satisfying about being the Canadians that the

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Speaker 10: things that they think that they're best at. And and look,

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Speaker 10: I realized not everybody likes the Olympics. You know, some Republicans,

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Speaker 10: some conservatives are like, ah, you know, the Olympics is

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Speaker 10: this you know, global thing. I view it in very

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Speaker 10: different terms. I grew up watching the Olympics with my

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Speaker 10: family and cheery on the United States, and I believe

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Speaker 10: that it's essential to to inject that into your kids.

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Speaker 10: You should have national pride about a performance and root

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Speaker 10: for our teams. It's critical, it's important. And that's one

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Speaker 10: of the reasons why I find everything surrounding this whole

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Speaker 10: Eileen Goose story as the most disgusting thing. You know,

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Speaker 10: where she's being held up by the American sports covering left.

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Speaker 10: You know, Pablo Tory going on and talking about her,

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Speaker 10: and you know all these other people who basically are

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Speaker 10: using her as kind of a foil for Donald Trump

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Speaker 10: or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Ask her about the Wigers. I just keep waiting for

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Speaker 1: someone to ask her about the Wigers. No, the thing

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Speaker 1: that was satisfactory is that Carne gave that speech in Dava.

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Speaker 1: I like Canadians. My daughter in law is a Canadian

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Speaker 1: who has become naturalized. My in laws are Canadians. They're

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Speaker 1: lovely people. I like Canadians. But Carnie gave that speech.

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Speaker 10: No words against Selene Dion.

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Speaker 1: But if you go to Davos and you punch us

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Speaker 1: below the belt repeatedly and you're too cowardly to say

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Speaker 1: what you mean, and then you get hand your hat

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Speaker 1: and your other guy cheats and curling, which is really

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Speaker 1: kind of.

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Speaker 10: Despicable if you haven't if you haven't seen it yet, hugh. Uh.

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Speaker 10: The there's a trend going on on Instagram and TikTok

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Speaker 10: of people posting, oh, I'm just unleashing my inner Canadian

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Speaker 10: and just showing them like lightly shoving and people food

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Speaker 10: on their plate, you know. So look, I mean this

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Speaker 10: is this is embarrassing for them. It's it's deeply embarrassing.

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Speaker 10: But man, I love the fact that the women's hockey

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Speaker 10: team did that, and I love the fact that, you know,

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Speaker 10: my my girls love hockey and they pay attention to it,

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Speaker 10: and in both both of them want to play. I

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Speaker 10: think only one of them will. But but it's one

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Speaker 10: of these things where it's it's inspirational to see that,

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Speaker 10: and hey, I'll be cheering on the US team as well.

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Speaker 1: So last question, it was wonderful to see them saying

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Speaker 1: the national and yeah, full throat crazy, no one holding back,

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Speaker 1: no one taking a knee. It's the way it used

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Speaker 1: to be. But I guess it's kind of nice not

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Speaker 1: to have any controversy.

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Speaker 10: And this is the thing, huge, that's what these sports

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Speaker 10: journalists are always trying to inject when they get into things.

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Speaker 10: Think about the questions that we're happening. I believe it

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Speaker 10: to be Australian open. You know that we're directed to

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Speaker 10: the American Stacey, it's ridiculous. And the truth is in

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Speaker 10: that moment to see that national tribe, it's great and

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Speaker 10: we should be able to unite and say that it's great.

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Speaker 10: And the fact is that you know that's to me,

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Speaker 10: that's a good sign. It's like we're moving forward. We're

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Speaker 10: healing in order to be able to come together and

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Speaker 10: sing like that and you know, not hold back at all.

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Speaker 2: Nature is healing. Ben Dominic, thank you.

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