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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is

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Speaker 3: March fifth. Already March fifth. There is a lot to

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Speaker 3: get to today, very busy show. We're going to be

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Speaker 3: into a concept of two things can be true at once.

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Speaker 3: is this image five eighty seven. This is reporting from

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Speaker 3: the Economists. Hat tip to Caine from Citizen Free Press

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Speaker 3: for flagging this for me. The Iran war has been

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Speaker 3: Now listen, I was an early critic, as was Blake,

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Speaker 3: two things can be true at once. Our military is

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Speaker 4: Every war goes that way, and it's a little different

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Speaker 2: All right, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Right now is Mike hal He's the president of the

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Speaker 2: Welcome to show, Mike, great.

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Speaker 8: To have you, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, we should set this up.

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Speaker 8: So set it up.

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Speaker 4: Christino is head of DHS, and she went to Congress

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Speaker 3: Yes, and Republicans that we like and we respect. Mike,

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Speaker 9: Knowing that the president is most likely going to be

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Speaker 11: But that has been extremely effective.

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Speaker 3: So this has sparked massive, massive amounts of rumors, and

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Speaker 3: You set up the stakes, Well, if Democrats get control

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Speaker 3: or some sort of corruption. But it goes deeper than this,

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Speaker 3: does it not. There is reporting about airplanes, there's reporting

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Speaker 3: about budgets with former spokespeople. Layout kind of what she's

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Speaker 3: dealing with here.

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Speaker 9: Yes, she's taking it on from a lot of different angles,

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Speaker 9: and it primarily revolves around the movement of money and

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Speaker 9: the goal. You know, perceptions and issues, and a lot

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Speaker 9: of them came, you know, a full display to hearing

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Speaker 9: from Republicans and Democrats. So let's recall reconciliation, one big

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Speaker 9: beautiful bill, forty billion dollars to go to ICE to

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Speaker 9: hire more agents, get detachment facilities. That money really hasn't

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Speaker 9: been spent yet. It's not getting out in the field.

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Speaker 9: We aren't seeing big detention facilities and manpower increases stood up.

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Speaker 8: Instead, the money first was spent on you know, these.

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Speaker 9: Kind of marketing and communications you know ploys, which I

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Speaker 9: call you know, mass communications instead of mass deportations. Now

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Speaker 9: you add to that and you know, failure on the

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Speaker 9: operational side, the ethical scandal that is brewing, and it

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Speaker 9: opens up a vector for Democrats and even you know

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Speaker 9: a lot of Republicans to attack the president's central mandate

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Speaker 9: of his you know, administration, which is the security border

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Speaker 9: and mass deportations.

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Speaker 8: And then to make matters worse.

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Speaker 9: You can imagine when these impeachment inquiries into the secretary open,

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Speaker 9: it's going to go right to the President's desk. And

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Speaker 9: you know, Senator Kennedy is a really smart lawyer. He

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Speaker 9: understod the importance and the liability of what the Secretary

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Speaker 9: laid out there when she implicated the president. And I

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Speaker 9: think he was trying to do the White House is

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Speaker 9: solid by making them see, you know, very clearly where

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Speaker 9: this trail would inevitably lead.

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Speaker 4: It's the reason we're emphasizing this is. This is clearly

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Speaker 4: it's basically the most important department within this president's administration.

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Speaker 4: It is his most important campaign promise is to deliver

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Speaker 4: on border security deportations. And as we know from what

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Speaker 4: happened in Minneapolis, it's inevitable we're going to get a

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Speaker 4: lot of pressure on the stuff that needs to happen.

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Speaker 4: That we need ICE agents out there arresting people. There's

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Speaker 4: going on incidents non negotiable. You're going to take heat

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Speaker 4: for that. It is entirely avoidable and optional to take

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Speaker 4: heat for the advertising budget. This is what I wanted

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Speaker 4: to zero in with you, Mike. I totally agree. You

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Speaker 4: just said something that's incredibly striking. And actually I'm sitting

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Speaker 4: here boiling if I'm being honest. You just said we're

486
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Speaker 4: not getting detention facilities and correct what so what other

487
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Speaker 4: contracts are not getting out the door while we're getting

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Speaker 4: marketing budgets?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the Hill.

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Speaker 9: You know, no one wants to throw shade at this issue,

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Speaker 9: and I'm certainly not here to throw shade, but it's

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Speaker 9: the reality that you know, forty billion.

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Speaker 8: Dollars, not much of it has been Spence.

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Speaker 9: DHS hasn't even updated at Capitol Hill on the money

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Speaker 9: that's gone out, most of it's been tied up.

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Speaker 8: One example is the border wall contracts.

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Speaker 9: Those only left the Secretary's desk a few months ago

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Speaker 9: because they were being held up in you know this

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Speaker 9: type of you know, contract approval procedure that has come

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Speaker 9: under you know, this ethical you know scandal. And so

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Speaker 9: the result was, you know, President Trump got very upset

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Speaker 9: that the wall wasn't being built when he saw the

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Speaker 9: reports of it not going up.

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Speaker 8: There was a fingerpointing exercise within the department as to

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Speaker 8: whose fault that was.

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Speaker 9: It ended up that the contracts were sitting on this

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Speaker 9: secretary's desk as the price of steel increased massively. And

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Speaker 9: then ultimately, after you know some darius a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 9: the contracts finally moved. And that's just like one example.

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Speaker 9: And so we can move from the board off stuff to.

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Speaker 4: So I just want to put it that when you

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Speaker 4: say sitting on the desk, do you mean that literally

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Speaker 4: like we're waiting for a signature.

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Speaker 9: Yes, right, Well, what's happened is and it is unusual,

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Speaker 9: and the Secretary has has toll lall makers this that

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Speaker 9: she approves all contracts over certain and now which has

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Speaker 9: led to you know, removal authority from cvp Ice and

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Speaker 9: elsewhere and centralized it at headquarters H and that has

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Speaker 9: led to some of the infighting and I call it

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Speaker 9: drama and again not commas in the deportation number. And

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Speaker 9: that's why so many people at DHS are at each

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Speaker 9: other's throats as laid. And it's no secret that the

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Speaker 9: camps had been fighting at first. It was internal that

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Speaker 9: it's it's spilled over into the press with you know,

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Speaker 9: targeted leagues of blaming each other back and forth.

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Speaker 8: And so that's the environment of DHS.

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Speaker 9: But why I care is because we're here to get

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Speaker 9: mass deportations done. And if these facilities aren't stood up

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Speaker 9: a SAP and many are waiting to go, then we

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Speaker 9: are not going to execute the mass deportation agenda. And

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Speaker 9: so like that's what I care about. But when you

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Speaker 9: open up an ethical flank to that, that gives ricostiture

533
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Speaker 9: Republicans Democrats an angle to make sure that we can't

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Speaker 9: even at a later date, get that money spent.

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Speaker 8: It's a disaster. And I think that's why the President's

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Speaker 8: so upset about it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've been very clear on this show. This

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Speaker 3: is my personally. This is my number one issue. I

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Speaker 3: think it's existential to the future of the country. We

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Speaker 3: must enforce our sovereignty. We must have a border wall,

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Speaker 3: we must deport criminal legal aliens, and everybody needs to

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Speaker 3: be on the table to deport. By the way, no amnesty,

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Speaker 3: none of this sob story stuff. This is what got

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Speaker 3: President Trump elected more than anything else. When we have

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Speaker 3: to see it through, I have some breaking news. This

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Speaker 3: is a White House correspondent from Reuter's Nandita Bose or Bose.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how you pronounce it. If you guys

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Speaker 3: could get that.

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Speaker 4: President Trump told Reuters he did not sign off on

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Speaker 4: a two hundred million dollar add by featuring DHS Secretary

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Speaker 4: Christinome and had nothing to.

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Speaker 2: Do with it.

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Speaker 3: That is a massive signal, right there, we talk about

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Speaker 3: signal and noise when President Trump, I mean that means

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Speaker 3: that President Trump is aware of the machinations and the

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Speaker 3: scheming against him and is concerned enough about this to

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Speaker 3: set the record straight. Mike, how do you interpret this?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you're right. It's a massive signal. It's

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Speaker 9: President Trump saying he's had enough of this. And look,

560
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Speaker 9: obviously he did not sign off on two hundred million

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Speaker 9: dollars add.

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Speaker 8: By to play on Fox.

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Speaker 9: News to tell illegals to self deport, which, by the way,

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Speaker 9: only you know, less than one hundred thousand ended up

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Speaker 9: using the application CPP.

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Speaker 8: One to actually do that. He just has released numbers.

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Speaker 9: But this is the president and his lawyer saying, we're

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Speaker 9: not going to get dragged down into this investment in

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Speaker 9: quarry just because she brought up his name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's here's the other thing.

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Speaker 3: So there was a contract that was supposed to go

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Speaker 3: out I think was part of this marketing budget to

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Speaker 3: recruit agents new ICE agents, because we had ten thousand

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Speaker 3: plus to fill correct and that I'm told that those

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Speaker 3: numbers got filled pretty quickly, and yet without much of

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Speaker 3: the budget being spent. You have you heard the same, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Think ICE recruitment numbers are good right now.

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Speaker 9: These ads, though, I think related to the CBP one

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Speaker 9: app and the self deportation if you're called, they featured

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Speaker 9: you know, the secretary prominently and almost you know, predominantly

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Speaker 9: aired on Fox Use and Night, which again you know,

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Speaker 9: legal aliens don't watch, and so they initially grabbed a

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Speaker 9: lot of attention as being unusual, and then you add

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Speaker 9: into it. The allegations that the contract was like a

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Speaker 9: soul source emergency funding deal that went to someone with

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Speaker 9: political connections to the secretary. And that was the feature

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Speaker 9: of hearings yesterday and the day before. You know, allegations

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Speaker 9: will crush there.

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Speaker 3: No, and I get that one. So that's one bucket.

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Speaker 3: But wasn't there a second bucket to recruit ice agents.

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Speaker 4: I think they had the money to recruit ice agents,

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Speaker 4: They got the recruits they needed, and they just kept

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Speaker 4: spending it, which I'd have the implication that someone really wanted,

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Speaker 4: you know, they could have returned that money, use that

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Speaker 4: for something else, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: The overall thrust of this is these ads read a

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Speaker 9: self promotion and political advertising as opposed to mission focus.

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Speaker 8: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So here's another clip with Christy Nome. I believe this

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Speaker 3: is Sheldon white House, who I don't like, so take

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Speaker 3: it with a grain of salt. But it's about this

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Speaker 3: luxury DHS jet, which is another story. There's an axios

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Speaker 3: broke this last week. Mike, I, I'm sure you saw it,

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Speaker 3: but for our audience who may not be aware, six

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Speaker 3: oh three, could you explain.

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Speaker 11: This, sir.

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Speaker 10: I'm looking at a picture of an interior looks like

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Speaker 10: a bedroom.

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Speaker 6: Of an airplane.

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Speaker 11: Yes, sir, you're not familiar with that. These photos are

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Speaker 11: not accurate.

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Speaker 10: If you're referring to the airplanes that the Department of

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Speaker 10: Homeland Security has.

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Speaker 11: Purchased and are purchasing.

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Speaker 10: We're using them for long range command and controller aircraft.

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Speaker 10: It is dictated in statute by Congress for the deminable

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Speaker 10: security to have a.

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Speaker 8: Plane, luxury jet with a bedroom in it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, here's the Axios story from last week. What

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Speaker 3: do you know about this separate fact from from fiction.

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Speaker 3: I don't trust Sheldon white House at all, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna tell it.

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Speaker 8: That's the problem.

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Speaker 9: You know, we don't want Sheldon white House and the

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Speaker 9: Democrats ever to be right or have a leg up.

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Speaker 9: But here like not doing them any favors. When money

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Speaker 9: that was supposed to be sent spent on deportation aircraft

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Speaker 9: or being used for luxury travel for the Secretary and others,

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Speaker 9: and you know the actually story checks out. I mean,

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Speaker 9: one of these jets they claimed was for deportation usage,

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Speaker 9: and the contract is being used for like international junkets

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Speaker 9: and travel, and you juxtapose that against the secretary you

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Speaker 9: spent very little time at DHS headquarters by some counts

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Speaker 9: less than like a month a month of time there

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Speaker 9: and is instead focused on, you know, traveling the globe

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Speaker 9: and elsewhere. It kind of begins to just look like

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Speaker 9: what it is, and it's the use of the emergency

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Speaker 9: funds and the want to be Beautiful bill money which

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Speaker 9: is supposed to be getting illegals out, is being used

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Speaker 9: to get you know, the Secretary of the Homeland of

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Speaker 9: security around the world in the country and style. And

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Speaker 9: it just gives Democrats such high ground to make these

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Speaker 9: types of argument, and I don't want to be watching

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Speaker 9: Sheldon Whitehouse and others had that high ground, and that's

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Speaker 9: why it's such a problem.

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Speaker 3: So this is pretty pretty frustrating to hear. This is

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Speaker 3: this is was kind of the main reason that I

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, there was a lot of reasons,

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Speaker 3: but like deportations was top of my list.

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Speaker 4: Now devil, you know, doubles advocate. Obviously this has been critical.

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Speaker 4: The thing is, Okay, let's say the President dismisses her,

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Speaker 4: appoints someone new to the position. Are we able to

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Speaker 4: continue doing deportations, doing the wall, doing the things that

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Speaker 4: need to be done while that position goes unfilled, possibly

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Speaker 4: for months on end, like that interim or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so there will be an interim. Will that person be

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Speaker 4: able to deliver on all the things we care about

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Speaker 4: or would we want to maybe have the President give

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Speaker 4: her a stern tongue lashing but keep her around purely

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Speaker 4: because we can't afford that two month pause.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So on the first part of the question, yes, I mean,

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Speaker 9: if you recalling Trump one, we basically ran on acting

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Speaker 9: secretaries while the border wall was being built, which isn't

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Speaker 9: without its problems, but you know, you could the OBB

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Speaker 9: money is insulated from the shutdown and all of that,

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Speaker 9: and so it really comes down to policy changes at

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Speaker 9: the department that needs to happen. One is, you know,

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Speaker 9: open the aperture of the deportation program. You know, we

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Speaker 9: got to move from this near exclusive focus on criminals

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Speaker 9: to getting the numbers up, which means work side enforcement,

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Speaker 9: you know, to get into the millions, which you know

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Speaker 9: President Trump promised to meet Eisenhower and that's what it'll take.

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Speaker 9: So that policy change isn't going to happen under current leadership.

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Speaker 9: And then second is this this process which is just

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Speaker 9: hunkered down, the moving of this critical forty billion dollars

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Speaker 9: worth of money, and now it's going to be even

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Speaker 9: harder to move that money under current leadership, with everybody

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Speaker 9: just so focused on the perceptions of ethical issues in

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Speaker 9: that contracting. Politically speaking, of course, it's the president's decision

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Speaker 9: to make, and you know he's got the insight into

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Speaker 9: what needs to be done there. But there are people

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Speaker 9: that could come in and get confirmed by the Senate

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Speaker 9: rather quickly, and if you've seen their names flooding around,

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Speaker 9: I mean, Jason Chafitz could fly through the Senate and

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Speaker 9: he's got a lot of experience and wants the deportation

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Speaker 9: numbers up. Mark Morgan, the former head of CVP and

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Speaker 9: Ice and Trump won. He's an operator who knows how

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Speaker 9: to get things done, has law enforced the experience to

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Speaker 9: rank and file support. He could fly through the Senate.

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Speaker 9: So these are all things that I'm sure the White

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Speaker 9: House is laying with their optionality of, you know, having

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Speaker 9: more insight into the various variables in this moving exercise.

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Speaker 3: So, Mike, this has been excellent. Thank you for a

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Speaker 3: dispassionate presentation of the facts. We don't want to run

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Speaker 3: to rush to judgment, but certainly This is troubling because

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Speaker 3: we have an electorate, a base, a coalition that wants

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Speaker 3: to focus on local domestic issues. Meanwhile, we've got a

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Speaker 3: war in Iran, strikes ongoing, the timeline keeps stretching out.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a grueling campaign, even if it is

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Speaker 3: the right geopolitical move to make. Meanwhile, the domestic number

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Speaker 3: one issue, the issue that basically unites the entire base,

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Speaker 3: the entire coalition, is deportation, sealing the border, getting tough

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Speaker 3: on immigration. And it seems to be just a complete mess.

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Speaker 3: And that is a formula for disaster. Mike, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much the Oversight project. This has been excellent. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna have you on again soon as this develops.

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Speaker 3: Your emails are flooding in. We will probably read some

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Speaker 3: of those. Some people like what we have to say,

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Speaker 3: some people don't very something.

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Speaker 2: It's not even like we didn't like what we had

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point, but it had to be said.

743
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta gotta take your medicine. But we've got

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Speaker 3: a great hour two in store for you. And somebody

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Speaker 3: I met at for the first time at America Fest,

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Speaker 3: and that's Matt van Swall. He's a former nuclear scientist

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Speaker 3: for the Department of Energy and not not Department of Education.

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Speaker 3: DOE is one of those ones. You are somebody that

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Speaker 3: has either your social media following has grown very rapidly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how many follows you have on.

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Speaker 2: X or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot over a million. And you used to

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Speaker 3: be a left winger. I don't know how far left,

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Speaker 3: but you were. You were a Democrat definitely, and then

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Speaker 3: you basically had a conversion story and you happen to

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Speaker 3: be a nuclear scientist and you happen to be in Phantas.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you need to come in and explain enrichment

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Speaker 3: because we got this Iran situation going on. But let's

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Speaker 3: start with your conversion. Give us your your backstory and

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Speaker 3: and what made you kind of start changing.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so you know, after college, I kind of became

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Speaker 12: significantly more left leaning. And it started in college and

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Speaker 12: then kind of quickly escalated from there. You know, I

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Speaker 12: was single, I was working, you know, it was in

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Speaker 12: an apartment by myself. I was doing like the online

766
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Speaker 12: dating thing, and you know, you start, you know, I

767
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Speaker 12: was reading the New York Times, you know, CNN, and

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Speaker 12: you kind of get all of your news, and everyone

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Speaker 12: at work is the same way too, you know that

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Speaker 12: you're all kind of bantering and talking, and you just

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Speaker 12: start to see yourself moved slowly to the left as everyone.

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Speaker 3: You didn't grow up, you didn't grow up necessarily, no, no, no.

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Speaker 12: But no, no, definitely not political. My parents were pretty

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Speaker 12: right leaning growing up, and I kind of had like

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Speaker 12: a backlash. The same thing with Christianity too, Like I

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Speaker 12: grew up going to church with my parents and then

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Speaker 12: kind of after college.

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Speaker 3: Just it just drifted away, drifted away.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so so.

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Speaker 3: What was the turning point then?

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Speaker 12: Yeah? So so for you know, my wife and I

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Speaker 12: were in western North Carolina during Helene, and you know,

783
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Speaker 12: we we lost power for a couple of weeks, but

784
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 12: we saw so much devastation during that time. And I

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Speaker 12: wasn't really on Twitter at all up until Helene, and

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00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 12: we watched as FEMA just constantly failed over and over

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00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 12: and over and it was. It was so appalling during

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Speaker 12: that time period because you would you would see uh,

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Speaker 12: FEMA failures all over the place, and the news would

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Speaker 12: just be glowing reviews of how awesome FEMA was doing

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Speaker 12: and how horrific you know, Helene was. But then you

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Speaker 12: just like walk down the street or what I did,

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Speaker 12: walk down the street and see people living in tents. Uh,

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Speaker 12: you know, almost months after Helene, and you're like, things

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Speaker 12: are not going okay.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm blake.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember, but like that was

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Speaker 3: terrible to see the wreckage from that hurricane basically Ashville.

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Speaker 2: Aren't you based in that area?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the the town was unrecognizable that oh hurricane

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Speaker 3: completely wiped that town.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, way, anything by the river was completely demo.

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Speaker 4: Seventy nine billion dollars of damage.

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Speaker 3: That's I mean, people need to remember just how large

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Speaker 3: of a catastrophe Helene was.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, people were quick to forget that. It's we're still without.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, like I'll be just perfectly honest, like

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Speaker 3: I haven't thought about it recently. I mean there's been

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Speaker 3: a couple of people that have brought it up here

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Speaker 3: and there, but I mean we have some of these

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Speaker 3: b roll images, and I don't think these are the worst.

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Speaker 2: There was whole swaths of town that.

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Speaker 12: Was just yeah mud, oh yeah. And that's that's one

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Speaker 12: of the reasons I started putting it out. I had

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Speaker 12: a drone and the like people ask me like, how

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Speaker 12: did you get big on Twitter? I was the guy

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Speaker 12: with the drone that was putting out just the images

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Speaker 12: from Helene, like that was it. And so I throw

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Speaker 12: my drone up and you would just see devastation as

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Speaker 12: far as you could see. And it was awful. I mean,

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Speaker 12: the river just took out everything along it. It was

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Speaker 12: so terrible. But the cleanup after that and the helping

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Speaker 12: of people from FEMA was so slow. It took so long,

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Speaker 12: and we would we eventually started talking to people like

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Speaker 12: Sean Hendricks, who's a good buddy of mine now who

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Speaker 12: did Helene cleanup, and we would talk to him and

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Speaker 12: you'd be like, yeah, there are people living intents today,

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Speaker 12: and you're like today, no, no, no no. But you

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Speaker 12: know months afterwards and you're like, how is this possible?

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Speaker 12: And you drive around with them and sure enough there

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Speaker 12: are people living in tents and we were like, we

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Speaker 12: have to get involved. So we started getting involved, and

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Speaker 12: I remember this, you know, we started talking with Sean.

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Speaker 12: His name is Sean Hendrix. You can find him on X.

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Speaker 12: Started talking with Sean, just having these moments. We were like,

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Speaker 12: you know, the government is not We would talk to

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Speaker 12: these victims and they'd be like, we applied to FEMA,

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Speaker 12: heard nothing. And then you would see a nonprofit like

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Speaker 12: Glennbeck's Mercury One step in and they just build them

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Speaker 12: a new home, like I don't know, and FEMA is

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Speaker 12: nowhere to be found. And we were like, I mean,

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Speaker 12: we have to, we have to, you know, get involved.

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Speaker 12: So my wife and I started driving r vs to people.

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Speaker 12: People just donate r vs out of nowhere and be like, hey,

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Speaker 12: here's an RV, we're not using it, please give this

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Speaker 12: to someone that needs it. And so we get them in,

847
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 12: we clean them, and then Sean or someone else would

848
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Speaker 12: would drive the r V and I vividly remember this

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Speaker 12: one time we were driving an RV to a woman and

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Speaker 12: her son, and I drove the r V up to

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Speaker 12: their house and they were living in a shed with

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Speaker 12: a propane here and I remember walking into the shed

853
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 12: and my head hurt so bad from the propane. I

854
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 12: was like, how the hell, can anyone live in this?

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00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 12: And uh, this was months after Puline and I was

856
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 12: like this, this is crazy. And on that drive, I

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00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 12: opened my phone and I saw, yeah, that's it, that's

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Speaker 12: lake Lord, which hyeah an incredible spot. I opened my

859
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 12: phone and I saw that Joe Biden had given billions

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Speaker 12: of dollars to Ukraine. And I was sitting there driving

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Speaker 12: an RV to someone like an American that needed it,

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00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 12: and I was like, this is insane, Like this is

863
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Speaker 12: absolutely nuts. And then I started, you know, just putting

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00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 12: out the stories. It was a story after story after

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Speaker 12: story of people applying to FEMA getting rejected, never hurt,

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Speaker 12: hearing back. And there are the worst stories you've ever

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Speaker 12: seen in your life. And the only people that stepped

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Speaker 12: up were the nonprofits and just everyday American citizens. And

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Speaker 12: it was wild and.

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Speaker 3: That meanwhile, we're giving away billions of dollars to Ukraine

871
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Speaker 3: and after we were we were funding all these nonprofits

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Speaker 3: to help illegals get in the country and gain the system.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Pretty radicalizing, yeah, actually, And you know it's important that

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Speaker 3: we tell those stories because we need to remember how

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Speaker 3: we got out here and what actually put President Trump

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Speaker 3: in office.

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Speaker 2: I think so you became a Christian too.

879
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so so of course i'd ask you the hardest question.

880
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, my my wife and I started going back to

881
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 12: church is very tangentially related to seeing all of the

882
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 12: nonprofits step up when when the government failed, and almost

883
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 12: all of the nonprofits, almost all of them were Christian nonprofits.

884
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 12: And we realized later on that our kids did not

885
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 12: have like a community group, they didn't have any moral

886
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 12: teaching outside of my wife and I and my wife

887
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 12: grew up going to church as well, but we both

888
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 12: we had never gone to church together ever in the

889
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 12: six years that we've been together, and we're like, we

890
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 12: we have to go back to church for you know,

891
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 12: for our kids and for the community that that you know,

892
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 12: it builds, and so so we ended up doing that

893
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 12: and it's been awesome. Like my my daughter works in

894
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 12: the nursery my wife and I just met. Yeah, she's awesome.

895
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: You've got a beautiful family man.

896
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 12: And yeah, it's it's been really great. I highly recommend it,

897
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 12: even if you are not a Christian. The community and

898
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 12: the morals you get from church is amazing.

899
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 3: So a lot has been made in Iran. They were

900
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: for decades on the precipice of getting a nuclear weapon

901
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: my entire lifetime. Yes, so help us. Yeah, separate fact

902
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: from fiction. So we're hearing that, you know, we bomb

903
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: for though then they were told they could make a

904
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: dirty bomb.

905
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: Explain enrichment to us. How fast does it go? What

906
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: does it take?

907
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 3: Could you do it in kind of like these crappy

908
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: backroom labs or whatever?

909
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 7: What is it?

910
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 12: Probably not so the way. So there's a couple of

911
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 12: ways excuse me to do enrichment. The one that we

912
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,479
Speaker 12: did in the forties is not what's being done now,

913
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 12: so you could you could do it. You're essentially trying

914
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 12: to separate uranium two thirty eight from uranium to thirty five.

915
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 12: And if you can get uranium two thirty five up

916
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 12: to ninety percent enrichment, then you have a bomb. And

917
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 12: the reason for that is it's essentially a domino effect.

918
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 12: So if you're if you're making you know, you wanted

919
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 12: to make let's just say nuclear energy, you would only

920
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 12: enrich uranium at most five percent like that that would

921
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 12: be the max. If you're if you're anything above five percent,

922
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 12: you're clearly trying to do something nefarious. Like yeah, there's

923
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 12: no reason because over what percent? Over five percent?

924
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 2: No kidding that low?

925
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, So if you're.

926
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: Carrying like sixty percent, that's insane.

927
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 12: There's no there's no nuclear reactor on the planet that

928
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 12: uses sixty any.

929
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: Kind of Right then when they go into the room,

930
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: apparently it was Kushner and wit Cough, they go into

931
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: the room with their negotiating counterparts from Iran and they're like,

932
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: we have sixty percent enriched, and we have enough to

933
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: make eleven bombs of nuclear material, right sure, uranium essentially.

934
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: So right then it's kind of like this whole narrative that.

935
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 12: They you're clearly making a nuke.

936
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't.

937
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: We just want to be able to pass our country

938
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 3: with nuclear energy supple.

939
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: We just offered them all the nuclear fuel they could

940
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 4: ever want.

941
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: But that's a five percent one hundred percent. So how

942
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 3: long does it take to go from five percent to

943
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: sixty percent?

944
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 12: So it works on like a to go from zero

945
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 12: to let's just say zero percent regiment of five percent

946
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 12: verishment takes almost as long it depends as going from

947
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 12: let's just say like sixty to ninety percent. So there's

948
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 12: a very long lag time at the beginning. And so

949
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 12: that that process could take you ten years to go

950
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 12: from zero to five No, to go from zero to

951
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 12: ninety percent. But if you were all about how much

952
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 12: infrastructure you have, it's all about how many centrifuges you have.

953
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 12: So if you know, in the forties, we determined that

954
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 12: it would take like ten thousand centrifuges to get us

955
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 12: to a nuclear bomb to back in the forties, and

956
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 12: so we didn't do it that way. But Iran's doing

957
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 12: it with centrifuges because they're pretending that, you know, they

958
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 12: want it for you know, nuclear energy, which they're not.

959
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 12: Like again, like if you have anything over ten percent,

960
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 12: you're going for something.

961
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 3: Okay, So you're as a nuclear scientist, you you're hearing

962
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: and looking at these these stats, these figures that are

963
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 3: being reported, and you're instantly calling garbage on nuclear energy.

964
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: You know they're going for a nuclear weapon.

965
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 12: Yeah, of course.

966
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 3: Okay, So how did we do it in the forties

967
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 3: if we didn't do it with centrifuges.

968
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 12: Oh that's a good question.

969
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 2: Is it too long of a question?

970
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: It's you know, I don't want to bogg us down

971
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 4: republic information.

972
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still secret, I think.

973
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's public is pretty sure. No,

974
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 12: I think you can. I think you can crock it.

975
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 12: But but essentially the way we would do it was

976
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 12: we forced Again, you're trying to separate two thirty five

977
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 12: from two thirty eight, and so you would essentially force

978
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 12: it through smaller holes, like to their different sized elements,

979
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 12: So you would you'd force it through tinier holes. And

980
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 12: then we use these monster magnets. And the way that

981
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 12: two thirty five and two thirty eight bent, you could

982
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 12: you could separate out a lot easier than that. But

983
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 12: if you are trying to pretend like you were not

984
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 12: making a nuclear bomb, you.

985
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: Would do it. You would do it with.

986
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 12: Interfewe That's how you do it in the energy world.

987
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, So so okay, dirty bomb? What is a

988
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: dirty bomb? How do you make it? And so because

989
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 3: that that that's another whole storyline in this.

990
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 12: So, so you could theoretically make a dirty bomb by saying,

991
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 12: let's just say you have sixty percent enriched uranium. The

992
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 12: reason you want to enrich it to ninety percent is

993
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 12: to make the bomb as small as possible so you

994
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 12: could put it on a rocket. Otherwise you have this

995
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 12: gigantic bomb that you couldn't even put on a plane, right,

996
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 12: So the idea is to get you know, get it

997
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 12: as small as possible, and then the explosions much bigger.

998
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 12: It's like a giant domino effective at ninety percent enrichment

999
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 12: versus that five percent enrichment, you're looking at like a

1000
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 12: slow meltdown, which is why it's perfect for energy, because

1001
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 12: you know, you just have this sustained energy over time

1002
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 12: versus It's like gasoline versus diesel. If you've ever like

1003
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 12: lit one versus the other, it's the same idea. Uh

1004
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 12: So you want to you get it to ninety percent

1005
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 12: rich you get on like a very small, like bowling

1006
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 12: ball size. You could put it in a rocket and

1007
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 12: hit someone. Otherwise you're just like, how would you transport

1008
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 12: something that big? So sixty percent rich uranium, you you

1009
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 12: could definitely make a bomb, nobodys saying, but you couldn't

1010
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 12: send it anywhere, you couldn't fly it.

1011
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 4: Okay, so a dirty bomb, yes, And how how devastating

1012
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: is that likely to be?

1013
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 12: I mean it's sixty percent. I mean it's still pretty devastating.

1014
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 12: I mean it would be, it'd be worse, so you

1015
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 12: know conventional Well, yeah, for sure.

1016
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: Well, and there's all the follow from that, right.

1017
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, it's terrible.

1018
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, so a dirty bomb would be so what

1019
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: what's ideal enrichment for an actual nuclear.

1020
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 12: Weapon or above?

1021
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so a dirty bomb would be less than that? Yes, okay, yeah,

1022
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: so in theory, say foidaugh, we bombed Florida. Yeah, they

1023
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: scurry in there and they get sixty percent enriched or

1024
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: seventy percent enriched uranium and they fired off kind of

1025
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: as is is the end.

1026
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 12: Well, you could not be very unlikely you could fire

1027
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 12: off sixty percent enriched uranium. Okay, that would be it

1028
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 12: would be really tough to do that and have a Yeah,

1029
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 12: that'd be tough. But what they could be doing is

1030
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 12: if you're at sixty percent enriched uranium, Like I said, like,

1031
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 12: there's a very long lead time for getting uranium up

1032
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 12: to the point where you could make a bomb. So

1033
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 12: if they've already gotten it up to sixty percent, I

1034
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 12: think this is what I keep hearing from the administration.

1035
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 12: You're pretty close, you know. So if they've just got

1036
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 12: centrifuges somewhere that we don't know about and they're spin

1037
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 12: and d percent is possible?

1038
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting and yeah. I mean so John Solomon, remember

1039
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: that on the Saturday stream we did after this initial strike,

1040
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 3: he said that you wouldn't even have to get it

1041
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: out of four to doh. You could get it off

1042
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: of potentially the black market or there's.

1043
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 12: Other if someone handed them really like high. So anything

1044
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 12: above let's just say ten percent is highly enriched uranium.

1045
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 12: Low enriched uranium is used for nuclear reactors, then yeah,

1046
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 12: you're on your way for sure.

1047
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: So, I mean, the more you know, like, okay, so

1048
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 3: you're being an you're an educated person in this field.

1049
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: This is what you you know, this was your career.

1050
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 3: When you're hearing about this, you're instantly going, yeah, that

1051
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: makes sense. They could, They could hurt a lot of

1052
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: people real quickly. Like this is you got to take

1053
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: this extraordinarily serious for sure. And I don't think I

1054
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: think a lot of the skeptics don't understand just how

1055
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 3: close we were basically existing all the time with Iran's

1056
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: nuclear program.

1057
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: I mean, we were close all the time.

1058
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: I mean maybe that's why it feels like, well we've

1059
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: always been so close, well, because they have been close.

1060
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 12: To having a NU Yeah, it's very possible, you know that.

1061
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 12: It just it just took them this long to get

1062
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 12: to sixty percent, and it'd be nice to hear more

1063
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 12: from the administration about like how close they were in

1064
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 12: evidence about that.

1065
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,600
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Speaker 2: All right, so we have a.

1085
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Speaker 3: Graph here, I believe do we have that up yet, guys,

1086
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: because this is this is like, this is the graph? Okay,

1087
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: uranium enrichment. Uh six twenty three. I don't know what

1088
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 3: I'm looking at?

1089
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: Is this the one? Or do you want the this? Oh?

1090
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: Okay, never mind, sorry six twenty two, throw up six

1091
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: twenty two. So this is what we're looking at, and

1092
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: uranium enrichment and uses you're talking about. The first zero

1093
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 3: to five percent enrichment takes a long time, this is correct.

1094
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Speaker 3: And then going from five to yeah, you can say,

1095
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: just accelerate.

1096
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1097
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 4: So just as you can see if it's you know,

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00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 4: you need about thirteen hundred total units of it looks

1099
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 4: like they're measuring energy or effort somehow, and you're at

1100
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: twelve hundred by the time you get to forty percent.

1101
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: So the last fifty percent is less than ten percent

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Speaker 4: of the total effort.

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00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: This is correct, Okay, effort sw swu okay. Interesting. So basically,

1104
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 3: when you talk about a richment enrichment and they say

1105
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 3: that it's sixty percent enriched based on this graph, getting

1106
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: from sixty to ninety happens way faster than going from

1107
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: zero five.

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00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 12: Yeah, and I think when when they bombed Forteo, they

1109
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 12: said that they were somewhere around like sixty sixty percent

1110
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 12: and rich uranium, which if if you were to just

1111
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 12: take Iran at their at their word, the amount of

1112
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 12: centrifugees that they have, that that could actually be one week,

1113
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 12: like maybe it depends. So when they say they set

1114
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 12: them back, they probably really did set them back pretty far.

1115
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 12: But if they still kept sixty percent enriched uranium around

1116
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 12: and hit it you know, god knows where, and they

1117
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 12: have other centrifugees we don't know about, then yeah, that

1118
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 12: would that would actually be a big problem.

1119
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: So so listen, this is where you go into the UH.

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00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 3: You gotta trust the people that we helped get elected

1121
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: to kind of make decisions, tough decisions that could be

1122
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: difficult politically. But man, you can't let Iran have a

1123
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: nuclear weapon. President Trump has been very adamant about that,

1124
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 3: consistent about that. I want to pivot a little bit here, though, Matt,

1125
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: because you know, one of the things, if you follow

1126
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: Matt online, you live in a state that had a terrible,

1127
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 3: gruesome murder. It was showcased at the State of the

1128
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: Union and of course we are talking about Arena Zerutzka.

1129
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: She was a Ukrainian war refugee that moved to North

1130
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 3: Carolina and was brutally killed in a video. I think

1131
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: that shocked the conscience of so many Americans.

1132
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: And that's your state. And what's interesting about that it

1133
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: strikes close to home.

1134
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: And Blake will remember this that you know, she died

1135
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 3: just before Charlie was killed. And Charlie was absolutely on

1136
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 3: top of this. He tweeted about it a lot because

1137
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: this was a story that never should have happened. She

1138
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: should still be alive today. And actually Erica sat next

1139
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: to Arena Zerutzka's parents at the State of the Union.

1140
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: I don't think she knew she was going to be

1141
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 3: next to them, so it was a really powerful moment. Yeah,

1142
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys will remember these images. Just horrifying

1143
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 3: to see them. Our teams put them up. I just

1144
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: throw them up when you have them. But Matt, how

1145
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: did this story impact you?

1146
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 12: I mean, it's crazy, Like, my wife grew grew up

1147
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 12: in Charlotte, so she's ridden the light rail quite a

1148
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 12: few times. And I'd been kind of reporting on Charlotte

1149
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 12: crime at that point, because it was just I mean,

1150
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 12: if anyone wants to go report on Charlotte crime, it's

1151
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 12: a free for all. Like the media is not covering

1152
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 12: this whatsoever. It's not hard to find the stories. But

1153
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 12: this one was just so surprising in the sense that

1154
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 12: this guy Charlotte has an insane repeat offender problem. Yeah,

1155
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 12: and this is something I cover over and over on Twitter.

1156
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 12: But this guy had been in and out of prison

1157
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 12: so many times. His mom said, you know, my son

1158
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 12: needs to be locked up. He should not be out,

1159
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 12: and they let him out and constantly, and then he

1160
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 12: goes and says he's got voices in his head. And

1161
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 12: then murders Arena.

1162
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 4: And there's something deeply symbolic about this one. Put up

1163
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 4: six twenty eight and six twenty nine and then the

1164
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 4: last one if you can get it. So people have

1165
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 4: made murals around the country honoring her in big cities,

1166
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 4: and they keep getting vandalized. People keep spray painting them,

1167
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: trashing them, damaging them because and like, there's something very

1168
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 4: profoundly insightful about I think left wing psychology that they

1169
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 4: would feel the need to do that to trash murals

1170
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 4: of an innocent woman who was murdered by someone who

1171
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: should not have been on the street. And as we know,

1172
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 4: she has become a symbol. But a lot of people

1173
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 4: could be this symbol. There's a story that's been going

1174
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 4: on in Fairfax County, right outside DC, where there was

1175
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 4: a murder there where it was I believe abdul Jallo,

1176
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 4: a legal immigrant from Africa, let out after I think

1177
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,959
Speaker 4: five different malicious woundings, keeps stabbing people. The police sent

1178
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 4: an email to the Fairfax Prosecutor's office saying, you guys,

1179
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 4: let this guy out again. He keeps randomly stabbing people.

1180
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 4: He's going to randomly stab someone again. And a week

1181
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 4: or two ago he stabbed to death a woman stuff

1182
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 4: and he mentor on a bus which the police had

1183
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 4: warned he was going to, and the prosecutor ignored it.

1184
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 4: We can endlessly find cases like this and look at.

1185
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Speaker 2: Throw up six twenty eight.

1186
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 3: This this bothers me a lot to see this. I

1187
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: haven't seen this before and it's an arena Zarutska Mural

1188
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: six twenty eight. If you have it, please vandalize this.

1189
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Speaker 3: This is a woman who did nothing wrong. She wasn't

1190
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: a public figure. She didn't voice her political opinions online.

1191
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: She didn't go to college campuses to debate college students,

1192
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: because lord knows, then you'll get your murals vandalized. She

1193
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: was just riding a bus and she got stabbed in

1194
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: the neck and she died, and people feel bad about that,

1195
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: And I like, that's radicalizing for so many, and I'm

1196
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 3: sure for you, Matt as A as a sort of

1197
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: newer conservative as well.

1198
00:59:58,880 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 12: You You would just always expect, and almost everyone I

1200
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 12: talk to expects that violent criminals are in jail. Almost

1201
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 12: everyone you talk if you were to ask someone, is

1202
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 12: is someone who murdered someone in jail for murdering someone?

1203
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 12: Almost one hundred percent of people to say for sure, they're.

1204
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: It's almost as common sense as you would assume. Everybody

1205
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: has to show an ID to vote one of those ideas.

1206
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 12: Yes, one hundred percent. And the truth of the matter is,

1207
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 12: if you go and look at any of the major cities,

1208
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 12: they are letting violent criminals out at an insanely high rate,

1209
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 12: Like there's there is a juvenile in Charlotte that has

1210
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 12: been arrested one hundred and fifty times and he's still out,

1211
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 12: like he's still committing crimes like.

1212
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: Breaking fifty times.

1213
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,479
Speaker 12: Yes, he's not even eighteen. Like, you know, it really

1214
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 12: is nuts, like the amount of times these people are

1215
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 12: getting arrested and being let out, and there's I mean,

1216
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 12: you can go to my Twitter and scroll. I mean,

1217
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 12: there's endless amounts of these stories.

1218
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 3: And you you you had a really interesting insight. You

1219
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 3: did some reporting independent journalism, right, it's kind of like

1220
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: part of your new role where you uncovered that they

1221
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 3: were classifying a bunch of non white criminals as white.

1222
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 3: What was the point of that and did you get

1223
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: confirmation that that you're reporting was accurate.

1224
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 12: It's definitely accurate. Now it depends on like which sheriff's office,

1225
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 12: and you know, a lot of different things. But in Charlotte,

1226
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 12: at least, there there is a like there's an option

1227
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 12: to click the word Hispanic if it's in a Hispanic person,

1228
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 12: there's an option to click the word white or black,

1229
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 12: and an insane amount of the time Hispanic people are

1230
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 12: classified as white in arrest reports. There was one so

1231
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 12: egregious that I remember this one very clearly. It was

1232
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 12: it's clearly a Hispanic male with you know, black hair,

1233
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 12: and in the arrest report it was a white male

1234
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 12: with blonde hair, and if you didn't have the photo

1235
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 12: of this person to be like, you know clearly, so

1236
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 12: like this bothers me greatly because the truth of crime

1237
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 12: stats matters, and people constantly post like the crime stats

1238
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 12: per race of individuals. And if my assumption is that

1239
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 12: if you were to go and look at the true

1240
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 12: crime stats based on actual, verified race data that is

1241
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 12: not biased, the white crime rate would be insanely low,

1242
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 12: like much much lower. Because these systems that are at

1243
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 12: the state level feed into the federal level.

1244
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think? Why are they doing this

1245
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: just because more left wing ideology?

1246
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: They don't want to.

1247
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 12: It's possible, So I think there's possibly two reasons. One

1248
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 12: is maybe, and I've been told this by police officers

1249
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 12: that the white button is first on whatever system, So

1250
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 12: if they're trying to do it quickly, it's just, you know,

1251
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 12: we'll just leave it at that. In other places, the

1252
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 12: you know, hispanic is an ethnicity technically not race, but

1253
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 12: it depends on again, like the system that you're in.

1254
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 12: Sometimes there's not even an option for police officers to

1255
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 12: tap the word hispanic, so they'll just they'll just you know,

1256
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 12: you have no option. You just have to tap white.

1257
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking at one right here. It's Ahmad Jihad Bojia.

1258
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 12: Yeah. Race white, Yeah, clearly.

1259
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: Not okay, yeah.

1260
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1261
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 12: And there's so many of these examples, like you could

1262
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 12: just I mean, you could probably just search the word

1263
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 12: white on my my ex account and you would see.

1264
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: How this guy killed three elderly Americans. I remember this

1265
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 3: story because his name was Jihad.

1266
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1267
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 3: He killed him in Florida and he was listed as white.

1268
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1269
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: This is a guy with the name Jahad, Yeah, classified

1270
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 3: as white.

1271
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1272
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 3: So is there any efforts at the federal level to

1273
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 3: fix this?

1274
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 12: There are, Yeah, I've gotten a phone call from someone

1275
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 12: out of the administration. I don't know whether I'm allowed

1276
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 12: to say who, but they are working on this. This

1277
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 12: is something that they're focused on.

1278
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 3: Because it feels like it would I mean that downstream

1279
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: ramifications are massive, but you're being lied to, and there

1280
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 3: is a whole racial agenda. You could you could say

1281
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 3: part of this might be inadvertent. There's gotta be part

1282
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 3: of this that is completely intentional. Yeah, look at all this,

1283
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Yeah, it doesn't pass the eye

1284
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,479
Speaker 3: test or the smell test, whatever the common sense doest

1285
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 3: we have some breaking news, folks. I don't want to

1286
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: say that we did it, but maybe we did it.

1287
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: Secretary christ Well Christy nom is out as Secretary of DHS.

1288
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: Reports are that Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, we have it,

1289
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: will be replacing her.

1290
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: We have a statement from the President.

1291
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: Let's read it.

1292
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: Let's get it. I'll start reading it.

1293
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 4: I am pleased to announce that the highly respected United

1294
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 4: States Senator from the great state of Oklahoma, Mark Wayne Mullen,

1295
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 4: will become the United States DHS Secretary effective March thirty first,

1296
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. The current Secretary, Christy Noum, who has

1297
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 4: us well and has had numerous and spectacular results, especially

1298
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 4: on the border, will be removing to be Special Envy

1299
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 4: Envoy for the Shield of the America's our new security

1300
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 4: initiative in the Western Hemisphere. We are announcing on Saturday

1301
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 4: and Doral, Florida. I thank Christy for her service at

1302
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 4: Homeland and then he has a lot about how great

1303
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 4: Mark Wayne Mullen is and all of that.

1304
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's breaking in.

1305
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 3: The Lanking news a matter of minutes, so we spent

1306
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 3: a lot of time an hour one talking about some

1307
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 3: of the controversies that have been swirling around DHS, stuff

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Speaker 3: that we don't want to see because it's too critically

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Speaker 3: important to the mission to re election to the coalition.

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Speaker 3: I'm pleased to see that the president is taking decisive action.

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Speaker 3: And Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is a friend of the show,

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Speaker 3: very well respected, understands the base, but he also understands

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Speaker 3: the let's just say, the intricacies of working with blue states,

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Speaker 3: and understands working with senators from blue states. What these negotiations,

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Speaker 3: these high wire acts really entail. We talk about crime

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Speaker 3: in blue cities, the ideologies that run these blue cities.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to enforce crime, so you've got an

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Speaker 3: uphill battle. Then we make a lot of noise about

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Speaker 3: the numbers that Barack Obama achieved when he was president

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Speaker 3: about deportations. Well, guess what, almost eighty percent of those

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Speaker 3: were transfers at the local prison level, at the local

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Speaker 3: jail level. So that was before the sanctuary city madness

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Speaker 3: really took root. And that was before all this TDS

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Speaker 3: anti Trump sentiment, right, because this was before Trump. So

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Speaker 3: they would just hand criminal, illegal aliens over at the

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Speaker 3: off at the jail level. Why is that important? Way safer,

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Speaker 3: takes way fewer agents to get those transfers accomplished, and

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Speaker 3: you get them deported immediately. You get violent criminals instead

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Speaker 3: of releasing them back into the streets, you get them

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Speaker 3: out of your country. That's going to be goal number

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Speaker 3: one for Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is to exert enough

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Speaker 3: effort and force and coercion, if you have to, political

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Speaker 3: pressure to get blue cities to cooperate. Now, the good

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Speaker 3: news era is that Tom Homan has already given us

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Speaker 3: a model for this. In Minneapolis. Minneapolis was spiraling out

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Speaker 3: of control. President Trump sent Tom Homan into Minneapolis, got

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Speaker 3: them to heal, and now they've He's got cooperation from

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Speaker 3: ninety five percent of county jails local jails Minneapolis to

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Speaker 3: hand over these detention requests. Uh, Blake, got to get

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Speaker 3: you in here. How important is this? What what do

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Speaker 3: we make?

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have to see So he we still have

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Speaker 4: a month before it goes in. That would be a

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Speaker 4: pretty brisk confirmation schedule, I think.

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Speaker 2: Uh, but he's in the Senate. I think that would

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Speaker 2: help speed things along.

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Speaker 4: Lose the senator, We lose the senator. But it's Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: That is a race we're highly unlikely to lose. Well,

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Speaker 4: no black pilling. Wait, you're telling me, And so I

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Speaker 4: think I think. I mean, we've had Mark Wayne on

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Speaker 4: the show. I think he's got a good head on

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Speaker 4: his shoulders about this.

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Speaker 2: Sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: Yea.

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Speaker 4: It shows they recognize the fact that he has someone

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Speaker 4: ready to go right away. It shows he recognizes the

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Speaker 4: importance of keeping the heat on because he knows this matters.

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Speaker 4: He knows he needs really aggressive enforcement on border stuff

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Speaker 4: and he needs to keep delivering wins on that because

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Speaker 4: a lot of people voted for that and that is

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Speaker 4: a signature.

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Speaker 2: Issue for him.

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Speaker 3: Well, and yeah, I think, as.

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Speaker 4: We discussed in the first hour this happened, you're going

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Speaker 4: to have controversy with ice. People are going to get

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Speaker 4: mad about a bad photograph. They're going to get mad

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Speaker 4: about some bad confrontation with a protester. They're going to

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Speaker 4: get mad about some arrest that gets made. That is inevitable.

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Speaker 4: There's the sheer scale of the problem means that's going

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Speaker 4: to happen. And so you can't have avoidable stuff. We

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Speaker 4: should not be debating ad buys at DHS. We should

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Speaker 4: not be debate debating try to jet that they're buying

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Speaker 4: at keep it on what needs to be happening, securing

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Speaker 4: the border, getting the wall up, getting the illegals out,

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Speaker 4: getting the arrests made.

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Speaker 2: That is where the focus needs to be.

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Speaker 4: I have sources at DHS that I've spoken with, and

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Speaker 4: I think, on balance, they are in favor of a

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Speaker 4: change being made, and I think I trust them that

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Speaker 4: they have the interests of the Department and the interests

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Speaker 4: of the country at heart when they say that.

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Speaker 3: And I too have sources in this world, and you

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Speaker 3: know this, let's hope that this is a good thing.

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Speaker 3: And we got to wait and see, you know, we

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Speaker 3: got to see what Senator Mark waynemulland does it sounds

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Speaker 3: like the future secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 3: But I'm curious your perspective here, Matt, as somebody that

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Speaker 3: is newer in this space. You know, your your perspective

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Speaker 3: is probably more on the FEMA angle, But what do

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Speaker 3: you make of something like this?

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, I don't have any sources in the administration,

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Speaker 12: but but I do think that people, especially on the

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Speaker 12: right me too, have been frustrated with the slower pace

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Speaker 12: of deportations, Like it's it's the number one issue of

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Speaker 12: anyone you talk to is, you know, why why are

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Speaker 12: we not deporting more? You know, why are we not

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Speaker 12: rest arresting employers? Why why are we not targeting people

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Speaker 12: who speak Spanish with ads to self deport right, like

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Speaker 12: very common sense stuff, you know, but to start start

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Speaker 12: finding employers that hire illegal aliens, Like I feel like

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Speaker 12: there's there's a lot of things on the table that

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Speaker 12: could be used to ramp up deportations that have not

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Speaker 12: yet been used, and that this is exactly what the

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Speaker 12: base of what's what I want to see, Like there

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Speaker 12: was a criminal illegal alien who you know, raped a

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Speaker 12: fourteen year old girl right across from my kids school,

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Speaker 12: like that was that was last week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Now I want to say something up because we

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Speaker 4: are losing secretary. I want to say positively about her.

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Speaker 4: She is a woman who didn't shy away from those

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Speaker 4: controversial aspects of ICE that we mentioned that they were

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Speaker 4: going into cities, they were making arrests aggressively even where

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Speaker 4: people were complaining about it. And we have to make

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Speaker 4: sure Senator Mark Waynemullen when he takes that job, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna keep the heat on him. He can't back off

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Speaker 4: on things he can't send any signs of weakness. He

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Speaker 4: has to be ready to trample over blue states, trample

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Speaker 4: over blue cities, lay down the law.

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Speaker 2: That is what the base wants, and the.

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Speaker 4: Left is going to look for weakness here.

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Speaker 3: If we want to keep the coalition together and we've

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Speaker 3: got all of these forces arrayed against us, you've gotta

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Speaker 3: go hard on deportations. You've got to be absolutely firm

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Speaker 3: in your resolve. Now, my advice to the Senator future

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Speaker 3: secretary sounds like is do not cower, do not give

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Speaker 3: an inch, but go behind the headlines, go get underneath.

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Speaker 2: Do not look.

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Speaker 3: To to be the face. Just be quiet, make it happen,

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Speaker 3: and at the end of the year, post a huge number,

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Speaker 3: blow people away, make these blue cities.

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Speaker 2: Heal.

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Speaker 3: We need you to cooperate, frankly, and I think Senator

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Speaker 3: Mark Wayne Willan is a guy that can get blue

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Speaker 3: cities to cooperate one way or the other. Matt, we

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Speaker 3: weren't expecting this to be our final segment, but it candidly,

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Speaker 3: it's a full circle show. So what can we say?

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Speaker 3: A lot happened today, Matt Vance while check him out

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Speaker 3: on X follow him a really important new voice and

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna continue growing and doing great things.

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Speaker 12: Thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you been an honor.

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Speaker 12: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 12: can trust, go to Charlie Kirk dot com