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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, since it's a religious the toras here and

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Speaker 2: so on, awareness sanctuary. I feel that it's appropriate for me,

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Speaker 2: as a Jew to put on a keypad, so I

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Speaker 2: just explaining why I'm doing it. Hi. By the way,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't match. Normally my keypod does match. I meant

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Speaker 2: to bring a green one, but I have a blue one.

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Speaker 2: There's no religious significance to the color. For those of

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Speaker 2: you who are not Jewish, there is done. It's not like,

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Speaker 2: isn't there a Catholic hierarchy in the color? Captain? Isn't

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Speaker 2: that right? Do I have that? Rights? Father Kelly here?

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Speaker 2: Where's father Kelly? Father? Am I right about that? Thank you? Father?

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Speaker 2: I love you? Okay. I'm really happy that you're all

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Speaker 2: here today. There are a few people that I want

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge presence of some we're mentioned. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I have a big thanks to WNTP. Would you give

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Speaker 2: it a handful? They're a great I will never forget. Happily.

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Speaker 2: I'm on well over one hundred stations, and while I

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Speaker 2: certainly know many of them, and some of them like

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Speaker 2: the next two days, I don't always know the frequency,

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Speaker 2: and I'll never forget. At a speech here at Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: a number of years ago, I mentioned WNTP nine eighty

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Speaker 2: never forget that. So I know the frequency of NTP

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Speaker 2: better than any other station that I am on in

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Speaker 2: the country. Because of that particular moment, I want to

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Speaker 2: thank the President not only for your beautiful introduction, but

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Speaker 2: for having me. She may lose her job tomorrow, but

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Speaker 2: it is a wonderful thing that she's here tonight. No, No,

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Speaker 2: I'm ninety nine percent in jest about that. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's an honor to be

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Speaker 2: here at this beautiful synagogue, and thank you for the

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Speaker 2: beautiful words that you said. I have a note from

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Speaker 2: the Rabbi was given to me, so i'll read it

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Speaker 2: to you from a Rabbi Gregory Marks, the rabbi here, Dennis,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to beth rr. I'm sorry that I couldn't be

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Speaker 2: here to personally greet you with this weekend is my

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Speaker 2: daughter's bot mitzvah. What kind of excuse is Adam. I'm kidding.

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Speaker 2: It's a perfectly good excuse, and I've got a house

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Speaker 2: full of company. Is truly in honor to have you back.

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Speaker 2: This is the part that really I don't know many

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Speaker 2: is truly an honor to have you back, as you

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Speaker 2: were in my home as scholar in residence in the

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Speaker 2: early seventies. He's got the wrong guy. Oh nineties, that's

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Speaker 2: So that's very beautiful. Thank you. Rabbi Marcus. I wish

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Speaker 2: I wish you could have been here in Muzletev. To

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Speaker 2: is here, Captain, would you please stand. We're honored that

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Speaker 2: But here's something I learned, and I'll I'm just going

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Speaker 2: The Christians of America were the most Jewish grounded of

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Speaker 2: wanted to go to Harlem to see oppressed, how oppressed

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Speaker 2: blacks live. So what are they going to say? No,

427
00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:04,220
Speaker 2: they hired some buses and they took the delegates from

428
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Speaker 2: all over the world to Harlem. The overwhelming reaction was

429
00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:17,940
Speaker 2: they were lied to. They didn't see Harlem. It was

430
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:23,739
Speaker 2: all a lie by the US government, because it's impossible

431
00:30:23,979 --> 00:30:27,060
Speaker 2: that they had such homes and so many cars in Harlem.

432
00:30:30,979 --> 00:30:34,259
Speaker 2: They they went all over Harlem. I don't mean just

433
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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty fifth Street, I mean one hundred

434
00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:39,420
Speaker 2: and thirty third and you know, and third avery. I

435
00:30:39,459 --> 00:30:42,900
Speaker 2: mean wherever any possible look and cranny. They could not

436
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:46,100
Speaker 2: believe what they saw at all the stores, all the commerce,

437
00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:50,259
Speaker 2: all the life, all the homes, all the apartments, and

438
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:55,259
Speaker 2: all the cars. It can't be because doesn't This is

439
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:59,540
Speaker 2: not the vision of oppression. But it doesn't matter that

440
00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:02,499
Speaker 2: the term oppression is used thrown out about the United

441
00:31:02,540 --> 00:31:07,340
Speaker 2: States regularly poverty while was it. The last head of

442
00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:10,740
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party announced that, in contradistinction to the Republicans,

443
00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:13,700
Speaker 2: we don't want we don't believe that kids should go

444
00:31:13,739 --> 00:31:16,620
Speaker 2: to bed hungry at night. See Republicans believe that kids

445
00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:19,019
Speaker 2: should go to bed hungry. I was thought this by

446
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:21,059
Speaker 2: of my parents when I was a young kid. Dennis,

447
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:22,460
Speaker 2: you were to go to bed hungary to night. We're

448
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:26,900
Speaker 2: Republican there was I remembered. I mean they he got

449
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:36,059
Speaker 2: it right anyway, We didn't. We believed in liberty. The

450
00:31:36,459 --> 00:31:39,860
Speaker 2: French Revolution believed in equality. Of course, we believe were

451
00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:43,460
Speaker 2: born equal, but we don't believe in equal results. Then

452
00:31:43,459 --> 00:31:48,940
Speaker 2: e pluribus unim from many one America said race and

453
00:31:48,979 --> 00:31:52,979
Speaker 2: ethnicity don't matter at all. Of course it mattered to

454
00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:56,340
Speaker 2: slave owners, of course it mattered to segregationists. And that

455
00:31:56,459 --> 00:31:59,140
Speaker 2: is the great blot on American history. But it didn't

456
00:31:59,180 --> 00:32:04,300
Speaker 2: matter to our value system. From the inception, our practices

457
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:09,620
Speaker 2: violated our values. You can't have e plurabus unham and racism.

458
00:32:09,979 --> 00:32:15,500
Speaker 2: It's not possible. By definition. If for many one, then well,

459
00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:19,580
Speaker 2: blacks count among the many, so there should be one.

460
00:32:20,380 --> 00:32:24,180
Speaker 2: And finally, in God we trust. God is central to

461
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:27,700
Speaker 2: the founding of the United States and its value system.

462
00:32:28,219 --> 00:32:30,860
Speaker 2: Just as a Christian is not a normative Christian if

463
00:32:30,860 --> 00:32:33,499
Speaker 2: he drops either the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit,

464
00:32:33,940 --> 00:32:37,180
Speaker 2: so too, you are not normative in your American beliefs.

465
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Speaker 2: If you drop God. You could be a wonderful American,

466
00:32:39,979 --> 00:32:43,420
Speaker 2: a wonderful human, a wonderful parent, a wonderful friend. But

467
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:46,940
Speaker 2: you are not normative in your American values if you

468
00:32:47,060 --> 00:32:49,940
Speaker 2: drop God. That's just the way it is, any more

469
00:32:49,979 --> 00:32:52,780
Speaker 2: than if you drop liberty or a blurribiz unium. That's

470
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Speaker 2: what we're founded on. I am curious, since you're a

471
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia audience, how many of you know what is inscribed

472
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:05,299
Speaker 2: on the liberty bell. Raise your hands? Okay, they are

473
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:08,140
Speaker 2: about five hundred people here and there are about twenty

474
00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:12,540
Speaker 2: hands up. Okay, that's more than in audiences in Denver

475
00:33:12,660 --> 00:33:16,259
Speaker 2: or San Antonio or la or where have you. But

476
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,700
Speaker 2: it's still nothing. I'm in the home of the liberty

477
00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:24,460
Speaker 2: Bell and you don't know. And I suspected that there

478
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:27,979
Speaker 2: is one verse on the liberty bell. One thing is inscribed.

479
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:33,660
Speaker 2: Is it from a secular humanist Nope, it's from the Torah.

480
00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:37,900
Speaker 2: Even Jews don't know this. Jews don't know how Tora

481
00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:41,900
Speaker 2: based America is. America is the most Tora based country

482
00:33:42,140 --> 00:33:46,340
Speaker 2: in the world. Ironically, it's from the third book of

483
00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:51,299
Speaker 2: the Torah, Leviticus, you shall proclaim liberty through all the

484
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:56,859
Speaker 2: inhabitants throughout their lands. Why was a verse from the

485
00:33:56,860 --> 00:33:59,700
Speaker 2: Torah chosen by Christians to put on the liberty bell

486
00:33:59,979 --> 00:34:03,779
Speaker 2: because they were Tora based Judeo based Christians. That's my point.

487
00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:11,500
Speaker 2: American slash Judaeo Christian values are unique and they are

488
00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:15,980
Speaker 2: the best value system, but it has very few advocates.

489
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:19,300
Speaker 2: Most people don't know how to advocate American values. People

490
00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:25,220
Speaker 2: know how to advocate secular life Islamic, but not American values.

491
00:34:25,260 --> 00:34:26,860
Speaker 2: They don't know what they are, let alone how to

492
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:31,019
Speaker 2: advocate them. And the same with Judeo Christian values. I'll

493
00:34:31,060 --> 00:34:33,620
Speaker 2: explain a few of them. That's the reason for the talk.

494
00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:36,060
Speaker 2: But to give you an idea of what we stand for.

495
00:34:36,540 --> 00:34:39,299
Speaker 2: By the way, let me just answer one question in advance,

496
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Speaker 2: the one raised by honest not anti Jewish Christians and

497
00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:49,779
Speaker 2: honest not anti Christian Jews. How Dennis, can you talk?

498
00:34:49,819 --> 00:34:54,339
Speaker 2: Can anybody seriously talk about Judeo Christian values? Jews and

499
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:59,060
Speaker 2: Christians believe very different things, And here is the answer.

500
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:04,259
Speaker 2: The answer is, we don't talk about Judeo Christian theology.

501
00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:08,939
Speaker 2: No one ever did we talk about Judeo Christian values,

502
00:35:09,739 --> 00:35:16,620
Speaker 2: not Judeo Christian beliefs. Of course, their beliefs differ, so

503
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:22,540
Speaker 2: do Catholics and Protestants differ in certain beliefs. That's not

504
00:35:22,739 --> 00:35:28,180
Speaker 2: the issue. Protestants differ in some beliefs amongst themselves. I

505
00:35:28,339 --> 00:35:33,219
Speaker 2: don't care about that. We're not talking about that. We're

506
00:35:33,259 --> 00:35:38,940
Speaker 2: talking about values. And in that sense, this religious jew

507
00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:44,859
Speaker 2: has far more values in common with many Christians than

508
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:49,299
Speaker 2: with many secular Jews. That's the way it is, and

509
00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:54,259
Speaker 2: vice versa. That's why I speak half the time in

510
00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:57,499
Speaker 2: churches and half the time in synagogues. That's why half

511
00:35:57,580 --> 00:36:00,939
Speaker 2: my students and my Torah classes in Los Angeles at

512
00:36:00,940 --> 00:36:04,700
Speaker 2: the American Jewish University are Christians and half for Jews

513
00:36:06,259 --> 00:36:11,980
Speaker 2: because they share the values, by the way, just on

514
00:36:12,259 --> 00:36:16,379
Speaker 2: a parenthetical level that you'll find interesting because I love

515
00:36:16,420 --> 00:36:20,739
Speaker 2: the life of the mind. There is one value and

516
00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:23,620
Speaker 2: only one that I could figure out where they really

517
00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:26,739
Speaker 2: differ from their original text, and that is about divorce.

518
00:36:27,219 --> 00:36:32,620
Speaker 2: Judaism allows it, and at least in theory outside of adultery,

519
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:36,260
Speaker 2: it is not allowed for Christians, at least in theory.

520
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:41,739
Speaker 2: Christians practice it. Most allow it, but some don't. Judaism

521
00:36:41,859 --> 00:36:45,979
Speaker 2: always allowed it. Christianity has at the very most been

522
00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:50,580
Speaker 2: deeply hostile to it. Not the Jews like it or

523
00:36:50,620 --> 00:36:53,299
Speaker 2: anything else. God says he hates divorce, and I think

524
00:36:53,299 --> 00:36:58,420
Speaker 2: it's in Jeremiah. But that's a separate issue. Beyond that,

525
00:36:58,739 --> 00:37:03,660
Speaker 2: their values are virtually identical. That's why we speak of

526
00:37:03,739 --> 00:37:07,379
Speaker 2: Judeo Christian values. And the Christians who found in this

527
00:37:07,420 --> 00:37:11,100
Speaker 2: country were Judeo based. That's why his name is Benjamin Franklin,

528
00:37:11,540 --> 00:37:18,580
Speaker 2: not Luke Franklin. They all had Hebrew names. How come

529
00:37:18,620 --> 00:37:21,339
Speaker 2: they were no Hajesus's You have a was all over

530
00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:26,379
Speaker 2: Latin America that was not a Judaeo based Christianity, like

531
00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:30,739
Speaker 2: in America, theoretically it should have been Jesus Franklin or

532
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:34,859
Speaker 2: Jesus Adams. No, you don't have that. You have a

533
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:41,580
Speaker 2: bunch of Hebrew names, Jedediah and Jeremiah. And my grandparents

534
00:37:41,620 --> 00:37:47,780
Speaker 2: were certain Lincoln was Jewish. Alcohol Lincoln alcohol totally certain.

535
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:55,900
Speaker 2: Rom Lincoln a good many, a good year, but always

536
00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:58,060
Speaker 2: an old thing in the old country. The Jews who

537
00:37:58,060 --> 00:38:00,339
Speaker 2: came over from Europe, like my grandparents, they had this

538
00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:04,580
Speaker 2: theory if they if the American that was like he

539
00:38:04,660 --> 00:38:08,379
Speaker 2: was Jewish, that was it. Remember Ed Sullivan from the

540
00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:12,900
Speaker 2: Ed Sullivan Show Ed Solomon. Every Jew called him Ed Solomon.

541
00:38:13,779 --> 00:38:15,899
Speaker 2: I didn't know the guy's name was Sullivan till I

542
00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:19,580
Speaker 2: was an adult and I started reading about it. That

543
00:38:19,819 --> 00:38:25,739
Speaker 2: is the Ed Solomon and show. Is it's solid. It's solid.

544
00:38:27,859 --> 00:38:31,779
Speaker 2: This a This is a remarkable country. And that is

545
00:38:31,859 --> 00:38:35,500
Speaker 2: one of the most remarkable aspects of it was the

546
00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:40,260
Speaker 2: founding of the country by Christians rooted in Judaism. Hence

547
00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:42,660
Speaker 2: I asked you about the liberty Bell to give you

548
00:38:42,739 --> 00:38:46,899
Speaker 2: a classic example. So now you know the case for

549
00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:51,140
Speaker 2: why you can use the term. Now, what are they okay,

550
00:38:51,180 --> 00:38:55,460
Speaker 2: I wrote twenty four columns on this in two thousand

551
00:38:55,500 --> 00:39:00,259
Speaker 2: and five. Go to pragerradio dot com click on columns.

552
00:39:00,819 --> 00:39:04,580
Speaker 2: I get no money for this, It's free. I wrote

553
00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:07,819
Speaker 2: twenty four of my fifty two columns that year the

554
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:11,580
Speaker 2: case for Judeo Christian values. So I can't give you

555
00:39:11,620 --> 00:39:15,299
Speaker 2: twenty four columns worth now, but I can give you

556
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:19,259
Speaker 2: in a nutshell some of what is happening. And my

557
00:39:19,420 --> 00:39:22,940
Speaker 2: belief is that the culture war in America is over

558
00:39:23,540 --> 00:39:27,060
Speaker 2: whether or not we continue with Judeo Christian values or

559
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:31,020
Speaker 2: secular left values. They are in conflict most of the time.

560
00:39:32,259 --> 00:39:37,380
Speaker 2: Number One is God. Now, believing in God means nothing.

561
00:39:38,299 --> 00:39:41,540
Speaker 2: When I know somebody believes in God, I know nothing

562
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,339
Speaker 2: about the person. I know nothing about his values, I

563
00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:48,620
Speaker 2: know nothing about his theology. I know nothing about him nothing.

564
00:39:49,299 --> 00:39:53,340
Speaker 2: There are people who believe in God whose beliefs about

565
00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:56,500
Speaker 2: everything else are so different from mine. I mean the

566
00:39:56,580 --> 00:39:59,579
Speaker 2: people who slaughter. There are Islamists, and I'm not saying

567
00:39:59,580 --> 00:40:02,060
Speaker 2: all Muslims by any means, but there are Islamis who

568
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:05,020
Speaker 2: believe in God and who say in the name of

569
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:08,140
Speaker 2: God the Merciful, And then they take a knife, and

570
00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:13,140
Speaker 2: they slowly cut a human being's throat till they choke

571
00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:16,939
Speaker 2: on their blood in the name of God? Do they

572
00:40:16,980 --> 00:40:19,020
Speaker 2: believe in the same God I do? Of course, not

573
00:40:19,819 --> 00:40:22,540
Speaker 2: that my God and their God have nothing in common.

574
00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:27,780
Speaker 2: So the fact that I know someone believes God doesn't

575
00:40:27,779 --> 00:40:32,020
Speaker 2: tell me anything. The God of Judeo Christian values is

576
00:40:32,140 --> 00:40:37,779
Speaker 2: quite specific number one. And you ask Jews, ask any

577
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:41,819
Speaker 2: Christian do you believe in the God of Israel, and

578
00:40:41,859 --> 00:40:45,540
Speaker 2: they will say, of course, that's exactly who I believe in.

579
00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:49,459
Speaker 2: You ask that to others and see if you get

580
00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:52,299
Speaker 2: that answer. By the way, is this is no criticism,

581
00:40:52,299 --> 00:40:55,540
Speaker 2: But it's an interesting question to ask a Muslim do

582
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:59,580
Speaker 2: you believe in the God of Israel? Some will say yes,

583
00:40:59,620 --> 00:41:01,819
Speaker 2: some will some will hedge, some will say, what do

584
00:41:01,859 --> 00:41:06,460
Speaker 2: you mean? And it's that's but that's one identifying factor.

585
00:41:06,580 --> 00:41:11,620
Speaker 2: And for Christians it's certainly in America it has been normative.

586
00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:17,739
Speaker 2: The God of Israel is our God. Okay, now that's

587
00:41:17,779 --> 00:41:23,180
Speaker 2: not enough. This God has specifics that are relevant to

588
00:41:23,259 --> 00:41:29,180
Speaker 2: Judeo Christian value. Number one. This God makes moral demands.

589
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:37,540
Speaker 2: This already is annoying to a generation. My the dumbest

590
00:41:37,540 --> 00:41:42,580
Speaker 2: in American history, the baby boomers that saw God as

591
00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:47,340
Speaker 2: not a demander, and even not as the second characteristic

592
00:41:47,460 --> 00:41:51,060
Speaker 2: as a judge. The idea that God judges us is

593
00:41:51,219 --> 00:41:57,060
Speaker 2: alien to those undermining the Judeo Christian tradition. God doesn't judge.

594
00:41:57,100 --> 00:42:00,700
Speaker 2: As one very very liberal rabbi said in the La

595
00:42:00,819 --> 00:42:03,500
Speaker 2: Times many years ago on the day before Young Kipper,

596
00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:09,140
Speaker 2: we don't believe in a judgmental God. All right, Well,

597
00:42:09,219 --> 00:42:13,020
Speaker 2: judgmental I know has a bad name. But the name

598
00:42:13,259 --> 00:42:16,420
Speaker 2: of Young Kipper in Hebrew is not just yong Kipur.

599
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:21,620
Speaker 2: It's Yomhadin, the day of judgment. I mean, that's what

600
00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:26,740
Speaker 2: God does that day. He judges everybody. He's not doing

601
00:42:26,779 --> 00:42:34,939
Speaker 2: anything else that day. Okay, He's just busy judging, and

602
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:39,500
Speaker 2: he's judging. According to Judaism, he's judging everyone, not just Jews.

603
00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:43,020
Speaker 2: He's judging everyone on earth on how they acted in

604
00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:49,460
Speaker 2: the past years. This God makes moral demands, this God

605
00:42:49,620 --> 00:42:54,100
Speaker 2: judges every one of us, and this God rewards, and

606
00:42:54,140 --> 00:43:00,020
Speaker 2: this God punishes usually in an afterlife. And finally, all

607
00:43:00,339 --> 00:43:05,739
Speaker 2: values come from God. Ethics come from God, not from man.

608
00:43:06,580 --> 00:43:09,860
Speaker 2: That is essential to Judaeo Christian values. I'm not trying

609
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,939
Speaker 2: to persuade you that they're right. I'm simply here to

610
00:43:13,060 --> 00:43:15,939
Speaker 2: define for you what they are and how they are

611
00:43:15,940 --> 00:43:21,219
Speaker 2: being undermined by the secular left, for whom value come

612
00:43:21,259 --> 00:43:26,980
Speaker 2: from the heart, the conscience and human experience. For the

613
00:43:27,060 --> 00:43:30,700
Speaker 2: Judeo Christian value system, they do not come from our hearts,

614
00:43:30,739 --> 00:43:33,299
Speaker 2: They do not come from human experience, and they do

615
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:36,859
Speaker 2: not come from just our conscience. In any event, since

616
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:40,219
Speaker 2: the conscience is not findable in an MRI, the very

617
00:43:40,299 --> 00:43:42,579
Speaker 2: notion of a conscience is a bit odd for people

618
00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:48,860
Speaker 2: who were scientifically restrained or constrained to science. It's not measurable, findable,

619
00:43:48,980 --> 00:43:53,620
Speaker 2: or detectable. Who put it there? Molecules make consciences, That's

620
00:43:53,620 --> 00:44:00,100
Speaker 2: a bit odd. I have an interview with a Swedish

621
00:44:00,140 --> 00:44:06,980
Speaker 2: woman in her late twenties. I interviewed because she was Swedish,

622
00:44:07,219 --> 00:44:10,340
Speaker 2: simple as that Sweden is the most secular society on Earth.

623
00:44:10,779 --> 00:44:14,580
Speaker 2: I find Swedes fascinating. How does the third generation of

624
00:44:14,620 --> 00:44:19,459
Speaker 2: those utterly and totally secular. I think she was one

625
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:23,660
Speaker 2: of the people working on one of the cruise ships

626
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:25,980
Speaker 2: I take listeners on, you know, I go with listeners

627
00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:28,299
Speaker 2: once a year on a cruise, and so she was

628
00:44:28,299 --> 00:44:30,060
Speaker 2: working on the ship and I asked her if I

629
00:44:30,060 --> 00:44:31,859
Speaker 2: could interview or She said, fine it to I was

630
00:44:31,859 --> 00:44:34,140
Speaker 2: a radio talk show host. I even played it on

631
00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:35,819
Speaker 2: the air, and I sent it out to people who

632
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:39,859
Speaker 2: subscribe to my lectures and get one, I think every

633
00:44:39,859 --> 00:44:43,100
Speaker 2: other month or something. Anyway, I interviewed the woman and

634
00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:45,459
Speaker 2: I began with do you believe in God? She said, oh,

635
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:48,539
Speaker 2: of course not. And I said do you believe in religions?

636
00:44:48,859 --> 00:44:51,180
Speaker 2: Of course not. And then I said, so where do

637
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Speaker 2: you get your notions of right and wrong from? And

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Speaker 2: she answered my heart? And I wrote one of my

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Speaker 2: columns Praeger Radio dot com columns. I wrote one of

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Speaker 2: my columns on the heart versus God. It's either God

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00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:13,060
Speaker 2: based or heart based. Now, there's a place for the

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00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:15,500
Speaker 2: heart and a God based system, but it's not the

643
00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:21,979
Speaker 2: place you get your values from. God gives directives. This

644
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:26,459
Speaker 2: notion is laughed at the at the university level, laughed at.

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00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:29,979
Speaker 2: I wrote one of my papers at Columbia University, where

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Speaker 2: I did my graduate work in Marxism and Communist affairs.

647
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Speaker 2: I did one of my papers on a contrast of

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Speaker 2: Judaism and Marxism. I thought my professor would have a

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Speaker 2: heart attack. How the hell did a kid get into

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Speaker 2: Columbia who believed in Judaism over Marxism. I mean, he

651
00:45:47,219 --> 00:45:49,939
Speaker 2: had never seen anything like that. It was as if

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Speaker 2: I had made the case for I know, for alchemy.

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Speaker 2: It's as if I had studied chemistry and said alchemy

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00:45:58,739 --> 00:46:04,739
Speaker 2: is superior to chemistry, or astrology has more insight than astronomy.

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Speaker 2: That I believe Judaism had more insight than Marxism. To

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Speaker 2: his credit, he gave me a b I know. And

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00:46:12,540 --> 00:46:15,339
Speaker 2: it was to his credit because I'm sure he got

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Speaker 2: nauseous while I want to man, I'm a sicken because

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Speaker 2: he believed the course in the superiority of Marxism. That

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00:46:23,380 --> 00:46:26,299
Speaker 2: marx was wrong in every single prediction he ever made.

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Speaker 2: So that doesn't matter. But he was secular, and he

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00:46:31,460 --> 00:46:34,259
Speaker 2: gave a secular understanding of the world as opposed to

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Speaker 2: a religious one, and therefore it was highly regarded. And

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Speaker 2: so where do your ethics come from? And just I'll

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Speaker 2: put it to you very simply as I do when

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Speaker 2: I speak to high school and college kids. If God

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Speaker 2: didn't say thou shalt not murder, how do you know

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Speaker 2: murder is wrong? There is no answer to that question.

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Speaker 2: By the way, there is no answer. You can say

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Speaker 2: you feel it, you think it, so what? But I

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Speaker 2: feel car X is better than car Y. You know,

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Speaker 2: I prefer Lexis to Mercedes, just to give them, you know,

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Speaker 2: some example. I was going to use GM cars, but

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Speaker 2: I hope the speech lasts longer than GM and somebody

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Speaker 2: will say, what is a buick ten years from now.

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Speaker 2: They may not know. I'm not happy about it, but

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I now have to use it far

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Speaker 2: are example. But it's all a matter of taste. I

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Speaker 2: like murder, you don't like murder. That's it, right, Why

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Speaker 2: isn't that When it comes down, there is no objective reality,

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no absolute right or wrong. It's all

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Speaker 2: a matter of personal opinion. I don't like murder, you

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Speaker 2: do like murder of a great day? And by the way,

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Speaker 2: that is exactly what kids think. Kids say, I say

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Speaker 2: whether the Nazis wrong or do you think they were wrong?

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Speaker 2: They all vote they think they were wrong. None of

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Speaker 2: them ever say the Nazis were wrong, even Jewish kids.

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Speaker 2: They just say, well, we think that they We feel

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Speaker 2: they were wrong. We think they were wrong, but they

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Speaker 2: weren't wrong in the sense that if someone says two

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Speaker 2: and two is five. That's wrong. No one says, I

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Speaker 2: think you're wrong if you say two and two is five,

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Speaker 2: but I think the Nazis were wrong. That's that's the

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Speaker 2: way you do it. That's with the downgrading of the

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Speaker 2: value system to being one of complete subject subjectivity. Another

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Speaker 2: example of a Judaeo Christian value is and I just

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Speaker 2: picked a few good little not little in the sense

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Speaker 2: that they're not critically important, but very refined examples. For example,

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Speaker 2: I remember when Berkeley announced that it was declaring the

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Speaker 2: city a hate free zone, and I announced on the

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Speaker 2: radio that I can no longer visit Berkeley. I am

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Speaker 2: banned because I believe in hatred. Because it says in

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Speaker 2: the Psalms, ojave done, those of you who love God

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Speaker 2: must hate evil. So I cannot join a hate free

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Speaker 2: society because there are certain things my value system demands

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Speaker 2: that I hate. Evil is what it demands that I hate.

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Speaker 2: That's a Judaeo Christian value to hate evil. The opposite

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Speaker 2: value was all hate is wrong. Hate is wrong. That's

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Speaker 2: why the two murderers had Columbine had flowers put out

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Speaker 2: for them. That's why we are at such a non

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Speaker 2: judgmental don't hate anybody's sphere that you know what has

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Speaker 2: happened before your own eyes. This never existed an American

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Speaker 2: or world history. Whenever anybody shoots up a bunch of people,

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Speaker 2: whether it's a terrorist or a crackpot, in America, they

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Speaker 2: always include the murderer among the victims. Twelve of that,

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Speaker 2: including the terrorists, including the bomber, including the shooter, including

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Speaker 2: the stabber. When did that happen? Can you imagine if

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Speaker 2: that was done in World War Two? Oh they were,

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Speaker 2: you know? Or seven million killed, six million Jews and

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Speaker 2: a million Germans. Nobody thinks like that, though, you think

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Speaker 2: about the victims, because you don't lump the murderer with

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Speaker 2: the murdered, But now we do so. Hating evil is

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Speaker 2: just one example of what is an anachronism to Berkeley,

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Speaker 2: and is a driving force in this person's life. People

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Speaker 2: are not basically good. That's a Judaeo Christian value. I

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Speaker 2: always know whether a Jew is Jewish in his values

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Speaker 2: or has been more influenced by Yale, by the follow

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Speaker 2: or in your case, you would p if the following happens,

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Speaker 2: if they cite an Frank says that after all is

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Speaker 2: said and done, I still believe people are basically good.

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Speaker 2: God blessed the memory of Anne Frank. But this fifteen

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Speaker 2: year old girl did not know as much as the

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Speaker 2: Bible or the Talmud. They were wiser even than Anne Frank,

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Speaker 2: and by the way, were wiser than me when I

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Speaker 2: was fifteen two. This is not an insult to Anne Frank,

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Speaker 2: who was a terrific girl who should never have been murdered,

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Speaker 2: and whose murder soils the earth to this day. But

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Speaker 2: she was wrong. People are not basically good. It's not

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00:51:27,739 --> 00:51:32,340
Speaker 2: a Jewish value. It's not a Christian value. God himself says,

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Speaker 2: Yet said Leivadam in Genesis, the will of man's harness

741
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Speaker 2: towards evil from his youth saved out of nil evo.

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Speaker 2: God got sad unto his heart that he ever created

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Speaker 2: man on earth. Why would he get said that he

744
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Speaker 2: created man if man was all that good. We're not

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Speaker 2: basically good. We're just not. I mean, for a Jew,

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Speaker 2: of all people, this is what drives me nuts. There

747
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Speaker 2: are things about my fellow Jews I adore, and there

748
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Speaker 2: are things that drive me nuts. This is in the

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Speaker 2: latter category. When a Jews after Auschwitz says people are

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Speaker 2: basically good. It proves to me that they have learned

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Speaker 2: nothing from the Holocaust. Nothing. By the way, it's one.

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Speaker 2: It's a great question to ask a fellow Jew, what

753
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Speaker 2: have you learned from the Holocaust? Give me some lessons

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Speaker 2: to be learned. Fascinating, fascinating thing for people to work through.

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Speaker 1: This episode of timeless wisdom will continue right after this.

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Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom.

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Speaker 2: But this is amazing. I mean, you see what Jews

758
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:55,899
Speaker 2: learned was there is no God, so they learned to

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Speaker 2: believe in humanity instead of God, the upside down version

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Speaker 2: of history. God did not build the gas chambers. People did,

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Speaker 2: but they ended up believing in people and not God,

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Speaker 2: an ingenious reaction to the Holocaust on the part of

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Speaker 2: most of my fellow Jews. I believe in humanity. What

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Speaker 2: the hell did humanity do for the Jews of Europe?

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Speaker 2: What did humanity do for the Ukrainians? What did humanity

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00:53:20,219 --> 00:53:23,299
Speaker 2: do for the Rwandans? What did humanity do for the Cambodians?

767
00:53:23,299 --> 00:53:25,980
Speaker 2: What did humanity do for the Russians? What did humanity

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Speaker 2: do for the seventy million Chinese? Mauslaughter? Humanity does nothing

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Speaker 2: humanity is morally worthless? Or is the title of another

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Speaker 2: of my columns, Praegerrebio dot com columns. As a title

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Speaker 2: of one of my columns, I put it, people are beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Humanity stinks, and that's my view. There are individuals who

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Speaker 2: are just glorious. There's a beautiful Jewish concept you've heard

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Speaker 2: of Lamedwevnik that there were thirty lamitvov means thirty six.

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Speaker 2: So there's a Jewish legend there are thirty six truly

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00:54:01,060 --> 00:54:03,739
Speaker 2: righteous people at any time living on earth, thanks to

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Speaker 2: whom the world continues. I thought it was a little optimistic,

778
00:54:07,140 --> 00:54:12,420
Speaker 2: but nevertheless, that's the figure that the Jewish tradition gives.

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00:54:15,380 --> 00:54:19,459
Speaker 2: This is the Jewish and Christian view. We're not basically good.

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Speaker 2: That's the reason we need deeply ethical religious systems because

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00:54:24,739 --> 00:54:28,580
Speaker 2: it's hard to make good people. It's the toughest thing

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Speaker 2: on earth. It doesn't take effort to make monsters. It

783
00:54:33,580 --> 00:54:39,300
Speaker 2: takes effort to make angels. And that's what you try

784
00:54:39,339 --> 00:54:43,580
Speaker 2: to do laboriously in every generation, is make good people.

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Speaker 2: That's the whole purpose of Judaism. And when I look

786
00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:55,219
Speaker 2: at all the good Christian works that have been done

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Speaker 2: and the people who give theirselves up, like going to

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00:54:57,779 --> 00:55:00,660
Speaker 2: the Dominican Republic, like I mentioned earlier, giving up a

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00:55:00,940 --> 00:55:04,899
Speaker 2: perfectly wonderful life as an orthopedic surgeon in America to

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00:55:05,259 --> 00:55:10,020
Speaker 2: take care of kids the legs in Dominican Republican Haiti.

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00:55:11,219 --> 00:55:15,219
Speaker 2: They're animated by Christianity. They're not that there's no secular

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Speaker 2: version of these things. Do you ever notice that where

793
00:55:18,339 --> 00:55:24,740
Speaker 2: is the secular salvation army? Where? I always ask this question,

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Speaker 2: where is it? If secularism produces good people, how come

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00:55:30,180 --> 00:55:33,580
Speaker 2: there are no equivalents to all of these massive religious

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Speaker 2: works that are done. Where exactly where people for virtually

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Speaker 2: no money devote their lives to goodness. I don't care

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Speaker 2: if you like their theology or not. I don't care

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Speaker 2: if people believe that the earth is on the back

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Speaker 2: of a turtle. If they do good, I care if

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Speaker 2: they do good. If turtle beliefs produce goodness, they beat

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Speaker 2: secular beliefs. I want to know what produces goodness. Secularism doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make all people bad. There are wonderful secular people.

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00:56:06,140 --> 00:56:09,419
Speaker 2: There are wonderful individuals who believed in Zeus. They are

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00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:12,499
Speaker 2: wonderful individuals who believed in anything and nothing. Of course

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00:56:12,540 --> 00:56:16,140
Speaker 2: that's true, and there are some terrible religious people, but

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00:56:16,259 --> 00:56:19,620
Speaker 2: in America, the goodness that has been produced has been

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00:56:19,660 --> 00:56:31,540
Speaker 2: overwhelmingly produced by religious institutions. People are not basically, and finally,

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Speaker 2: and most important and most controversial, the essence of the

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Speaker 2: Torah and taken in its entirety in this value sense

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Speaker 2: by Christians in America. Certainly, the most important concept in

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Speaker 2: the Torah is the concept of separate, of different separateness

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Speaker 2: and differentness. I have a trick question. It's not fully

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00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:08,140
Speaker 2: a trick question, but it's somewhat which I asked a

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Speaker 2: huge symposium of Christians, including one of the best known

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00:57:11,460 --> 00:57:14,339
Speaker 2: pastors in the world. I won't say his name, and

817
00:57:14,380 --> 00:57:16,300
Speaker 2: I said, okay, raise your hand if you can tell

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Speaker 2: me what God created on the second Day. Nobody ever

819
00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:24,580
Speaker 2: gets it right, including me. I got tricked by the

820
00:57:24,620 --> 00:57:29,539
Speaker 2: same trick question. God didn't create anything on the second Day.

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Speaker 2: All he did was separate. That's how important separations are.

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Speaker 2: Separateness is the essence of the Judeo Christian universe, of

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00:57:43,540 --> 00:57:48,500
Speaker 2: the Torahs universe. And I will give you four examples,

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Speaker 2: and with this end my talk. Number one Good and

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Speaker 2: Evil they are separate. They are different. It is the

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Speaker 2: opposite of one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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Speaker 2: It's all relative. It's all relative. Some things are relative.

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Speaker 2: Whether blue is more beautiful than purple is relative. But

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Speaker 2: not good and evil. There is a good, there is

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Speaker 2: an evil. They are separate. Man and God, they are separate.

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Speaker 2: We have made man into God, especially the scientific man.

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Speaker 2: Read Charles Crowdhammer on stem cell research. The man is

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Speaker 2: an agnostic and paralyzed quadriplegic the polit surprise winning columnists

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Speaker 2: of the Washington Post. If anybody would be for stem

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Speaker 2: cell research and creating embryos in order to get him

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Speaker 2: out of a wheelchair, it's Charles Crowdhammer, who doesn't believe

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Speaker 2: in God and who is paralyzed. He's the classic example

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Speaker 2: of a guy who would want this. But he is

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Speaker 2: a morally serious thinker and says, I will not support

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Speaker 2: the creation of embryos, of human embryos, to destroy them,

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Speaker 2: even for the sake of getting me out of a wheelchair.

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Speaker 2: That's when men become God. We decide if we can

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Speaker 2: do it, we will do it. And anyway, anyone who

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Speaker 2: says that my heart is the source of my values

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Speaker 2: is God for himself. If God is the source of values,

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Speaker 2: and there's no more God, and you're now the source

847
00:59:32,380 --> 00:59:36,900
Speaker 2: of your values, your God in every meaningful sense, Your God.

848
00:59:39,580 --> 00:59:44,260
Speaker 2: Third holy, profane kiddoshim Tu. You shall be holy because

849
00:59:44,300 --> 00:59:47,340
Speaker 2: I'm the Lord your God. I'm holy Leviticus nineteen one

850
00:59:47,380 --> 00:59:53,380
Speaker 2: and two. You shall be holy. And there is holy,

851
00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:57,459
Speaker 2: And there's profane. Not in the secular world that we

852
00:59:57,500 --> 01:00:01,300
Speaker 2: are creating in America for kids, there no profane. The

853
01:00:01,460 --> 01:00:04,419
Speaker 2: F word is as wonderful as any other word. There's

854
01:00:04,420 --> 01:00:08,059
Speaker 2: no profanity is a joke, it's laughed at. I did

855
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:10,939
Speaker 2: something for which God will reward me. I read the

856
01:00:11,140 --> 01:00:16,419
Speaker 2: entire twenty fifth anniversary issue with Rolling Stone magazine. You

857
01:00:16,460 --> 01:00:20,580
Speaker 2: don't know. I would rather have worked on a beeha

858
01:00:22,340 --> 01:00:28,539
Speaker 2: then read this. It was. It was. It was aggressively superficial,

859
01:00:30,060 --> 01:00:33,180
Speaker 2: and it was an interview with all of these great

860
01:00:33,380 --> 01:00:37,020
Speaker 2: thinkers and stars and others. Almost all of them use

861
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:39,860
Speaker 2: the F word in their interviews. Now, I am not

862
01:00:39,980 --> 01:00:43,900
Speaker 2: apprude on cursing, as I always have said, and even

863
01:00:43,940 --> 01:00:46,820
Speaker 2: on the air, if a piano falls on your toe

864
01:00:46,860 --> 01:00:49,780
Speaker 2: and you say, gosh, darn, you are on a different

865
01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:55,900
Speaker 2: level than I am. And I have to say if

866
01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:59,019
Speaker 2: a guy, if a guy in the military is looking

867
01:00:59,060 --> 01:01:02,580
Speaker 2: at a Taliban right now and they started shooting, and

868
01:01:02,620 --> 01:01:09,220
Speaker 2: he goes, oh, no, that is awful. I don't even

869
01:01:09,260 --> 01:01:12,900
Speaker 2: want to be in his regiment. I want a guy

870
01:01:12,900 --> 01:01:16,780
Speaker 2: who's cursing the Taliban as he's shooting them. So I

871
01:01:16,820 --> 01:01:19,700
Speaker 2: am not of the belief you never use these words,

872
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:22,820
Speaker 2: but we have outcome, and we don't use them when shooting.

873
01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:28,539
Speaker 2: In life and death they're just used as nondescriptive adjectives.

874
01:01:29,940 --> 01:01:33,380
Speaker 2: Oh what an F and day doesn't mean anything. We

875
01:01:33,380 --> 01:01:37,019
Speaker 2: don't even know. There's a good is advantage in and day.

876
01:01:37,540 --> 01:01:39,140
Speaker 2: I went in an F and car on a f

877
01:01:39,180 --> 01:01:41,620
Speaker 2: and day during that f and week, of that f

878
01:01:41,660 --> 01:01:45,499
Speaker 2: and month, and that f and years. That's the way

879
01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:49,820
Speaker 2: it is. And you hear so there's no difference between

880
01:01:49,860 --> 01:01:53,220
Speaker 2: the profane and the holy. There is no holy. There

881
01:01:53,260 --> 01:01:55,860
Speaker 2: is no holy. The concept of holy speech is gone,

882
01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:58,939
Speaker 2: the concept that listen. I is a big argument I

883
01:01:58,980 --> 01:02:01,820
Speaker 2: have with a lot of Christians. Interestingly enough, very interesting

884
01:02:01,860 --> 01:02:03,860
Speaker 2: to me. This is one thing. Jews are more liberal

885
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:07,820
Speaker 2: than Christians, but Jews all dress up for synagogue. Christians

886
01:02:07,820 --> 01:02:10,820
Speaker 2: have this notion. You show up at church wearing every

887
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:14,820
Speaker 2: what you just wore to the movies. Because God doesn't

888
01:02:14,820 --> 01:02:17,340
Speaker 2: care what you wear? Why don't you get that notion?

889
01:02:18,580 --> 01:02:20,900
Speaker 2: Those are people who get their values from their heart.

890
01:02:21,020 --> 01:02:26,419
Speaker 2: That's not a biblical notion. It's a whole chapters in

891
01:02:26,500 --> 01:02:29,060
Speaker 2: the Bible about what you wore war to the temple.

892
01:02:30,580 --> 01:02:33,020
Speaker 2: If God doesn't care what you wear, does he care

893
01:02:33,060 --> 01:02:37,099
Speaker 2: if you're nude? At what point does he care bathing suit?

894
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:41,100
Speaker 2: About speedo? What do you care if you were a

895
01:02:41,180 --> 01:02:45,660
Speaker 2: speedo to church? Is there any level where God does

896
01:02:45,780 --> 01:02:49,539
Speaker 2: care what you wear? Does God care? If he knows,

897
01:02:49,660 --> 01:02:52,220
Speaker 2: you would dress up far far more to go to

898
01:02:52,260 --> 01:02:55,939
Speaker 2: the Academy Awards than to go to church. See if

899
01:02:55,980 --> 01:03:01,340
Speaker 2: you wore your your your whatever, you your shorts and

900
01:03:02,020 --> 01:03:05,220
Speaker 2: your T shirt to the Academy Awards, then I'd say

901
01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:08,980
Speaker 2: you're consistent. You don't show respect to anything you go to. Okay,

902
01:03:09,380 --> 01:03:12,780
Speaker 2: that's fair. But if you dress up for the Academy

903
01:03:12,820 --> 01:03:17,140
Speaker 2: Awards but not for church, that's a statement, folks, that's

904
01:03:17,180 --> 01:03:22,860
Speaker 2: a statement. But there is no holiness left. Nothing's holy,

905
01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:28,020
Speaker 2: not even church is holy. Clothing is a statement of

906
01:03:28,060 --> 01:03:32,620
Speaker 2: what's holy, what's less holy. And we certainly have it

907
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:35,980
Speaker 2: with regard to language and so much else, and obviously sex.

908
01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:39,900
Speaker 2: The idea holy sex, I mean, you know, to even

909
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:43,419
Speaker 2: say those words immediately predates you to the Civil War era.

910
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:48,580
Speaker 2: Hope even that sex should be take place in holy matrimony.

911
01:03:49,620 --> 01:03:53,499
Speaker 2: You sound religious, which by definition means primitive, and that's

912
01:03:53,540 --> 01:03:58,180
Speaker 2: what they're taught. And finally, and this is the big

913
01:03:58,220 --> 01:04:03,340
Speaker 2: one today. Male female. That's the other separateness that the

914
01:04:03,420 --> 01:04:10,380
Speaker 2: Judaeo Christian value system holds very firmly. And God created Adam.

915
01:04:10,660 --> 01:04:15,380
Speaker 2: That means the human zahada mkaeval bar outom male and female.

916
01:04:15,420 --> 01:04:23,540
Speaker 2: He created them. We are different. The male female differentness

917
01:04:23,580 --> 01:04:26,380
Speaker 2: is profound. That's why the Torah forbids men from wearing

918
01:04:26,420 --> 01:04:33,900
Speaker 2: women's garb. It's a Torah prohibition. Never mix male and female.

919
01:04:34,060 --> 01:04:38,540
Speaker 2: They matter. The battle over same sex marriage is not

920
01:04:39,020 --> 01:04:44,100
Speaker 2: over gays and straits. It is over male and female distinctiveness.

921
01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:48,939
Speaker 2: Because the argument at bottom is it doesn't matter the

922
01:04:48,980 --> 01:04:54,740
Speaker 2: sex of whom you marry. I have. If compassion for

923
01:04:54,860 --> 01:04:58,460
Speaker 2: gays could be measured, I will happily have mine measured

924
01:04:58,740 --> 01:05:02,500
Speaker 2: with any gay activist in America at any given moment,

925
01:05:03,940 --> 01:05:06,939
Speaker 2: they have been given a raw deal by every society

926
01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:12,380
Speaker 2: they have lived in in inmeasurable history. It has been disgusting.

927
01:05:13,260 --> 01:05:16,900
Speaker 2: I fully acknowledge and agree to that. And it is

928
01:05:17,020 --> 01:05:20,260
Speaker 2: not fair to a gain that they cannot marry a

929
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:23,100
Speaker 2: member of the same sex. It is. There are many

930
01:05:23,260 --> 01:05:28,540
Speaker 2: unfairnesses in life, but between standards and compassion, I up

931
01:05:28,580 --> 01:05:33,820
Speaker 2: for standards. That's a Judeo Christian principle. And that is

932
01:05:33,860 --> 01:05:37,020
Speaker 2: the reason that there has never been a Jewish or

933
01:05:37,140 --> 01:05:40,979
Speaker 2: Christian thinker in the history of Earth who has been

934
01:05:41,060 --> 01:05:45,820
Speaker 2: for redefining marriage to same sex. There is no other

935
01:05:46,060 --> 01:05:49,500
Speaker 2: example you can give me of where every single Jewish

936
01:05:49,580 --> 01:05:54,220
Speaker 2: and Christian thinker was immoral. If it is immoral to

937
01:05:54,340 --> 01:05:58,540
Speaker 2: be for male female marriage, then every Christian from Jesus

938
01:05:58,580 --> 01:06:01,820
Speaker 2: on and every Jew from Abraham to Moses to my

939
01:06:01,980 --> 01:06:05,620
Speaker 2: monodies and dam was immoral because not a single one

940
01:06:05,660 --> 01:06:10,459
Speaker 2: of them ever even hinted at the notion of redefining marriage.

941
01:06:11,420 --> 01:06:14,540
Speaker 2: Oh in numbers, yes, but that's not a redefinition of marriage.

942
01:06:14,580 --> 01:06:18,979
Speaker 2: That's a detail. Sex is not a detail. That's a redefinition.

943
01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:24,780
Speaker 2: There is an arrogance, forgive me, a deep arrogance. I

944
01:06:24,980 --> 01:06:28,380
Speaker 2: am moral. Every Jew before me, every Christian before me,

945
01:06:28,500 --> 01:06:31,460
Speaker 2: was immoral on this issue. There is no other example.

946
01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:34,780
Speaker 2: Not race nothing and has nothing to do with race.

947
01:06:34,820 --> 01:06:39,059
Speaker 2: In any event, there is no difference between a black

948
01:06:39,140 --> 01:06:42,700
Speaker 2: human and a white human. There are deep differences between

949
01:06:42,700 --> 01:06:46,260
Speaker 2: a male human and a female human, but not according

950
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:50,700
Speaker 2: to the secular left alternate value system, which is dominant.

951
01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:57,220
Speaker 2: Male and female are identical except for the appendages. I

952
01:06:57,340 --> 01:07:00,300
Speaker 2: will fight that belief as long as I have the

953
01:07:00,380 --> 01:07:05,780
Speaker 2: breath to fight it. The mixture of those two is

954
01:07:05,860 --> 01:07:11,580
Speaker 2: a very dangerous plane with sexual fire. Men and women

955
01:07:11,740 --> 01:07:17,780
Speaker 2: are profoundly different, arguing that they are the same, that

956
01:07:17,860 --> 01:07:20,260
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if a kid is raised by a

957
01:07:20,300 --> 01:07:24,260
Speaker 2: mother and father, because mothers are utterly and totally dispensable.

958
01:07:25,260 --> 01:07:30,059
Speaker 2: Two dads are just as wonderful. One gets nothing from

959
01:07:30,140 --> 01:07:33,660
Speaker 2: a woman that one cannot get from two men. One

960
01:07:33,700 --> 01:07:38,340
Speaker 2: gets nothing from two women that one cannot get from

961
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:41,380
Speaker 2: One gets nothing from a man or from a man

962
01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:47,740
Speaker 2: that one cannot get from two women. These are remarkable assertions,

963
01:07:48,060 --> 01:07:52,180
Speaker 2: all because of compassion. I have the same compassion. I

964
01:07:52,220 --> 01:07:54,100
Speaker 2: would be happy to be hooked up to a live

965
01:07:54,140 --> 01:07:56,660
Speaker 2: in factor of my compassion for gays. One of the

966
01:07:58,060 --> 01:08:02,100
Speaker 2: one of the most horrible moments in my American life

967
01:08:02,740 --> 01:08:04,900
Speaker 2: was when I was a kid and the Barry Goldwater

968
01:08:05,020 --> 01:08:09,620
Speaker 2: team exposed the homosexuality of a Lyndon Johnson key advisor

969
01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:14,740
Speaker 2: and blackmailed him. I was so angry. I remember how

970
01:08:14,820 --> 01:08:18,780
Speaker 2: angry I was that anybody would even bother announcing it,

971
01:08:18,900 --> 01:08:25,540
Speaker 2: let alone humiliating him and his family. We all have

972
01:08:25,660 --> 01:08:28,900
Speaker 2: favorite relatives, you do. Nobody loves all their relatives the same,

973
01:08:29,060 --> 01:08:30,500
Speaker 2: in fact that there are people who don't love any

974
01:08:30,540 --> 01:08:35,940
Speaker 2: of their relatives. But one of my most loved relatives

975
01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:40,900
Speaker 2: is my lesbian niece, and I love her partner, love her,

976
01:08:42,900 --> 01:08:47,179
Speaker 2: and I honor their partnership. That's a fact. I love them.

977
01:08:47,540 --> 01:08:51,460
Speaker 2: I honor them, but I am opposed to their marriage.

978
01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:54,900
Speaker 2: I will not redefine marriage because I love my niece.

979
01:08:55,180 --> 01:08:57,540
Speaker 2: I never understand this argument. I have a gay child,

980
01:08:57,620 --> 01:09:02,099
Speaker 2: therefore I want to redefine marriage. That's pretty narcissistic. Well,

981
01:09:02,420 --> 01:09:04,380
Speaker 2: it's a non sequitary. You have a gay child, and

982
01:09:04,420 --> 01:09:07,339
Speaker 2: therefore what so you therefore feel for gaze. I feel

983
01:09:07,340 --> 01:09:11,099
Speaker 2: for gaze too. You're not persuaded by the people who

984
01:09:11,099 --> 01:09:14,500
Speaker 2: say my child was murdered now I'm for capital punishment,

985
01:09:15,420 --> 01:09:18,740
Speaker 2: by the way, Nor should you be if capital punishment

986
01:09:18,780 --> 01:09:23,139
Speaker 2: depends on your having your beloved one murdered, then it's

987
01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:24,939
Speaker 2: not much of a position at all. It's just an

988
01:09:24,979 --> 01:09:29,620
Speaker 2: emotional reaction. Right If somebody said, my kid was murdered,

989
01:09:29,660 --> 01:09:32,620
Speaker 2: now up for capital punishment, no anti capital punishment person

990
01:09:32,660 --> 01:09:35,820
Speaker 2: would say, oh, that's persuasive. I'd say, I'm sorry that

991
01:09:35,939 --> 01:09:37,620
Speaker 2: your child was murdered, but that has nothing to do

992
01:09:37,700 --> 01:09:40,780
Speaker 2: with capital. I'm sorry that your child feels and you

993
01:09:40,900 --> 01:09:42,740
Speaker 2: feel this way with regard to your child, but that

994
01:09:42,740 --> 01:09:48,060
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with whether society should redefine marriage.

995
01:09:49,099 --> 01:09:51,420
Speaker 2: My argument is not to persuade you that I'm right.

996
01:09:51,620 --> 01:09:54,580
Speaker 2: My argue is to persuade you, and this intellectual honesty

997
01:09:54,620 --> 01:09:57,500
Speaker 2: has to acknowledge that Judeo Christian values stand on one

998
01:09:57,580 --> 01:10:02,100
Speaker 2: side and secular left value stand on another on occasion

999
01:10:02,220 --> 01:10:08,900
Speaker 2: after occasion after occasion, and they do. On this one.

1000
01:10:09,700 --> 01:10:13,540
Speaker 2: We're losing. There's no question we're losing. We're losing on

1001
01:10:13,979 --> 01:10:16,219
Speaker 2: every front, on the good evil, on the man, God,

1002
01:10:16,260 --> 01:10:18,900
Speaker 2: on the male female, on the holy profane. We're losing

1003
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:23,140
Speaker 2: on the subjectivity of values using the on the distinctiveness

1004
01:10:23,180 --> 01:10:25,540
Speaker 2: of the American value system. We're losing on God based

1005
01:10:25,620 --> 01:10:29,940
Speaker 2: around We're losing on all of them. And I'm not optimistic,

1006
01:10:30,220 --> 01:10:34,580
Speaker 2: not pessimistic yet, but I'm not optimistic. It's very, very

1007
01:10:34,660 --> 01:10:38,979
Speaker 2: easy to bring down greatness. It is very hard to

1008
01:10:39,019 --> 01:10:46,900
Speaker 2: create greatness. Judeo Christian America created something great for everybody day, straight, black, white,

1009
01:10:47,019 --> 01:10:52,299
Speaker 2: jew Christian eighties. It is being changed. You may want

1010
01:10:52,340 --> 01:10:56,100
Speaker 2: it changed, you may want us to return to Europe.

1011
01:10:56,300 --> 01:10:59,299
Speaker 2: I don't. And that's the battle. Thank you very much,

1012
01:11:06,700 --> 01:11:16,139
Speaker 2: have you let Thank you?

1013
01:11:18,620 --> 01:11:22,940
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