1 00:00:02,750 --> 00:00:03,670 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:03,690 --> 00:00:08,730 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Praying Christian Women podcast. I am Alana 3 00:00:08,789 --> 00:00:10,289 Speaker 2: here with Jamie. How are you doing? 4 00:00:10,830 --> 00:00:12,070 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. How about you? 5 00:00:12,610 --> 00:00:16,290 Speaker 2: Good. We have another coffee break episode today. These are 6 00:00:16,329 --> 00:00:21,930 Speaker 2: where listeners like you can submit questions to us at prayingchristianwomen.com. 7 00:00:22,410 --> 00:00:26,169 Speaker 2: Jamie and I get to show up and just discuss it. 8 00:00:26,630 --> 00:00:30,190 Speaker 2: So we love when you send in the topics that 9 00:00:30,250 --> 00:00:35,470 Speaker 2: are on your mind. And We have gotten multiple variations 10 00:00:35,850 --> 00:00:39,390 Speaker 2: of today's questions, so I'm really glad that we get 11 00:00:39,530 --> 00:00:40,350 Speaker 2: to cover it. 12 00:00:41,090 --> 00:00:45,029 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely something that comes up a lot and, 13 00:00:45,470 --> 00:00:48,229 Speaker 3: you know, something that needs to be addressed. So let's 14 00:00:48,270 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: read the question. We got an anonymous Coffee Break submission. 15 00:00:51,940 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: Why does God seem to answer other people's prayers but 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:55,860 Speaker 3: not mine? 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:57,220 Speaker 2: And. 18 00:00:58,030 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: The variations that we get are somewhere along the lines of, 19 00:01:01,860 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: you know, why doesn't God answer my prayers? Or why 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,300 Speaker 3: does someone else seem to have a closer relationship with 21 00:01:08,340 --> 00:01:13,020 Speaker 3: God or have like things happening regularly where they're like, oh, yeah, 22 00:01:13,180 --> 00:01:16,050 Speaker 3: this is what God did in my life. And maybe 23 00:01:16,090 --> 00:01:18,709 Speaker 3: not as loved is kind of what it comes across. Like, 24 00:01:18,750 --> 00:01:20,630 Speaker 3: does God love me? I think that's what the crux 25 00:01:20,650 --> 00:01:24,470 Speaker 3: of this is. Does God love me less? Because I'm 26 00:01:24,610 --> 00:01:27,090 Speaker 3: asking and I'm not experiencing those answers. 27 00:01:27,790 --> 00:01:30,850 Speaker 2: Yeah, like God has a favorite child and that child 28 00:01:30,890 --> 00:01:35,780 Speaker 2: gets whatever they want. Imagine the trope of the sister 29 00:01:35,830 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: who feels like her other sister gets everything she wants. 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: And sometimes we can feel that way. And I think 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,900 Speaker 2: my very first knee-jerk reaction to this question, we're going 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: to dive mostly into how do we handle that feeling 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,740 Speaker 2: and not the actual feeling. why is this the case? 34 00:01:54,780 --> 00:01:56,860 Speaker 2: But I think there is one why is this the 35 00:01:56,900 --> 00:01:59,020 Speaker 2: case that I want to address. And that would be 36 00:01:59,060 --> 00:02:01,820 Speaker 2: the exact same thing as why does everybody else look 37 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:06,190 Speaker 2: like they have a happier marriage or healthier children or 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,510 Speaker 2: a more tidy or peaceful home on Instagram? Well, it's 39 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:15,570 Speaker 2: because it's self-selecting. People are going to share their wonderful 40 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:20,970 Speaker 2: answers to prayer. If you have a terrible prayer disappointment, 41 00:02:21,389 --> 00:02:25,290 Speaker 2: you're not as apt to share that in testimony form 42 00:02:25,750 --> 00:02:30,620 Speaker 2: with people because we are wired to have a testimony mean, 43 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,619 Speaker 2: I was in trouble. God did this thing. I was 44 00:02:34,780 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: out of trouble. Praise the Lord. And so those are 45 00:02:38,620 --> 00:02:41,340 Speaker 2: the stories that we hear. And that doesn't mean that 46 00:02:41,410 --> 00:02:45,730 Speaker 2: people are fake by sharing those testimonies. It also doesn't 47 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:48,690 Speaker 2: mean that people are phony by sharing a picture of 48 00:02:48,750 --> 00:02:54,550 Speaker 2: their happy family. It just means that we self-select the 49 00:02:55,290 --> 00:02:59,230 Speaker 2: image that we want to convey. And sometimes it's just 50 00:02:59,270 --> 00:03:01,670 Speaker 2: because we don't want to be downers, right? Like, I 51 00:03:01,710 --> 00:03:04,950 Speaker 2: don't want to come across as, you know, everybody who 52 00:03:05,010 --> 00:03:08,750 Speaker 2: shares an answer to prayer is a terrible self-centered person, 53 00:03:08,780 --> 00:03:12,620 Speaker 2: because that's not true at all. When something really cool 54 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: happens in your life, it's really fun to share. Like, 55 00:03:14,540 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: you were the very first person I told, like, the 56 00:03:17,940 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: moment I realized that God had provided a keyboard for 57 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:23,970 Speaker 2: us and I had been praying for a piano. And 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,609 Speaker 2: that one really was like kind of a George Mueller 59 00:03:26,710 --> 00:03:29,370 Speaker 2: type of thing, like knocking on the door. Hey, I 60 00:03:29,389 --> 00:03:31,850 Speaker 2: got this keyboard. Can you take it off my hands? 61 00:03:31,930 --> 00:03:33,570 Speaker 2: I mean, that was almost how it was. 62 00:03:33,590 --> 00:03:34,290 Speaker 1: Yeah. 63 00:03:34,750 --> 00:03:38,190 Speaker 2: And so it's great to share testimonies of answered prayer. 64 00:03:38,410 --> 00:03:42,370 Speaker 2: But when all you hear are the testimonies of answered prayer, 65 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: that leaves you feeling isolated. Just like when all you 66 00:03:46,140 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: see are the pictures of beautiful, tidy homes, you feel 67 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,330 Speaker 2: like everybody's got it more together than I do. 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:54,930 Speaker 1: And that's just not the case. 69 00:03:55,550 --> 00:03:55,850 Speaker 2: Yeah. 70 00:03:56,030 --> 00:03:59,970 Speaker 3: And I think confirmation bias plays a role too. I 71 00:04:00,030 --> 00:04:03,230 Speaker 3: almost feel like there are certain things where if you 72 00:04:03,250 --> 00:04:07,870 Speaker 3: get something into your head, you're going to see facts 73 00:04:08,150 --> 00:04:11,390 Speaker 3: lining up with what you're worldview is it's like the 74 00:04:11,430 --> 00:04:14,830 Speaker 3: red light phenomenon that i've shared with my husband i 75 00:04:14,930 --> 00:04:18,010 Speaker 3: know my poor husband but um but yeah it's like 76 00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:20,909 Speaker 3: the red lights thing it's it's i believe that i 77 00:04:20,930 --> 00:04:23,830 Speaker 3: get more than most people do and so i'm gonna 78 00:04:24,490 --> 00:04:27,260 Speaker 3: you know put it out there and it's possible you 79 00:04:27,300 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: know maybe he does get more you know maybe there's 80 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: like an electromagnetic he jokes you know and i do 81 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: too maybe maybe there's like an electromagnetic attraction they sense 82 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,300 Speaker 3: you coming but um but If you think that it's true, 83 00:04:39,380 --> 00:04:41,940 Speaker 3: you're going to notice the red lights. If I decide 84 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,630 Speaker 3: I'm going to buy a Toyota truck, then all I 85 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:49,010 Speaker 3: see on the road is Toyota trucks. And if I 86 00:04:49,490 --> 00:04:54,369 Speaker 3: have this seed planted in my mind that God doesn't 87 00:04:54,490 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: answer my prayers but answers others, I'm going to just 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 3: pick up on every single person that talks about answered prayer. 89 00:05:01,260 --> 00:05:04,779 Speaker 3: And that's going to be what I glean from life. 90 00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:07,330 Speaker 3: And if you look at it that way, it could 91 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:10,810 Speaker 3: be really damaging. It could be a really damaging viewpoint. 92 00:05:11,450 --> 00:05:14,190 Speaker 2: And it can turn into self-fulfilling prophecy. It can turn 93 00:05:14,210 --> 00:05:18,030 Speaker 2: into God doesn't ever answer my prayers. And so then 94 00:05:18,230 --> 00:05:21,050 Speaker 2: I pay attention to the 2% of prayers that weren't 95 00:05:21,130 --> 00:05:24,100 Speaker 2: answered the way I wanted and not the 98% of 96 00:05:24,140 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: times God provided for me. And then I become even 97 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: more convinced that my prayers don't work. So then I 98 00:05:29,460 --> 00:05:33,670 Speaker 2: pray less. So then I experience even fewer blessings. So 99 00:05:33,850 --> 00:05:39,230 Speaker 2: it can turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy of being disappointed 100 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:44,270 Speaker 2: with life. And I think a really good, just jerk 101 00:05:44,330 --> 00:05:49,130 Speaker 2: yourself out of that mindset is really focusing on gratitude. 102 00:05:49,750 --> 00:05:52,330 Speaker 2: Because when you train yourself to say thank you for 103 00:05:52,410 --> 00:05:55,410 Speaker 2: every single green light, it's going to be impossible for 104 00:05:55,450 --> 00:05:57,070 Speaker 2: you to think that you're the kind of person who 105 00:05:57,150 --> 00:06:01,530 Speaker 2: only gets red lights. Or I've trained myself to the 106 00:06:01,589 --> 00:06:05,140 Speaker 2: two things that I do. opening the fridge or cupboard 107 00:06:05,380 --> 00:06:09,310 Speaker 2: or opening my bank app and to make sure that 108 00:06:09,380 --> 00:06:13,550 Speaker 2: whether there's, you know, whether it's overflowing or totally empty 109 00:06:13,710 --> 00:06:17,730 Speaker 2: or negative, the reaction is, thank you for what is 110 00:06:17,830 --> 00:06:18,210 Speaker 2: in here. 111 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:20,990 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's so important. 112 00:06:21,470 --> 00:06:27,030 Speaker 3: I remember in college, I kind of had, I don't know, 113 00:06:27,110 --> 00:06:30,990 Speaker 3: like kind of rededicated my life to Christ. I started 114 00:06:31,410 --> 00:06:35,620 Speaker 3: getting more serious about reading the Bible and actually studying 115 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,060 Speaker 3: scripture and doing a prayer journal, just keeping a journal. 116 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: And when I started keeping a prayer journal, I feel 117 00:06:45,140 --> 00:06:48,420 Speaker 3: like my worldview when I look at, you know, when 118 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,940 Speaker 3: I translate that time, I kind of examine that time, 119 00:06:52,380 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: is that God began working more closely in my life 120 00:06:58,060 --> 00:07:03,070 Speaker 3: and answering more prayers. But the reality is, I started 121 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: keeping track and I started writing it down and I 122 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,140 Speaker 3: started focusing on it. And then when I noticed an 123 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: answer to prayer and was like, whoa, that's so cool. 124 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: It inspired me the opposite of what you were saying 125 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,210 Speaker 3: of how, you know, believing that he doesn't can inspire 126 00:07:21,250 --> 00:07:26,110 Speaker 3: you to withdraw. Seeing one answered prayer, like spurred me 127 00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:31,070 Speaker 3: on to pray more and more specifically and more boldly. And, 128 00:07:31,630 --> 00:07:34,830 Speaker 3: So it was when those prayers happened that I started 129 00:07:34,890 --> 00:07:38,390 Speaker 3: noticing God's work. And I don't think God was working 130 00:07:38,530 --> 00:07:41,070 Speaker 3: any more or less in my life. I was just 131 00:07:41,270 --> 00:07:44,929 Speaker 3: asking specifically for things that I already knew I needed 132 00:07:45,150 --> 00:07:50,510 Speaker 3: and things that I had trouble with, decisions I was 133 00:07:50,730 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: struggling with. And God showed up. But I mean, I 134 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,820 Speaker 3: believe He was showing up all along. It's just I 135 00:07:56,860 --> 00:08:00,750 Speaker 3: wasn't asking specific... The Bible says you have not because 136 00:08:00,770 --> 00:08:03,650 Speaker 3: you ask not. So it is possible that the more 137 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:08,210 Speaker 3: I ask specifically, the more He addressed those specific things 138 00:08:08,450 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: in my life for sure. But the perceived closeness to God, 139 00:08:12,460 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: I think, you know, the Bible tells us that the 140 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,780 Speaker 3: Holy Spirit's living in us. I mean, you don't get 141 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: closer than that. So anytime there's like a disconnect, it's from, 142 00:08:23,620 --> 00:08:25,930 Speaker 3: you know, for the most part, I think it's from 143 00:08:26,350 --> 00:08:31,420 Speaker 3: our perception rather than the reality. So another tool in 144 00:08:31,450 --> 00:08:37,900 Speaker 3: addition to gratitude is beginning to journal, beginning to pray specifically, 145 00:08:37,940 --> 00:08:40,420 Speaker 3: write down specific things that you need help with or 146 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 3: that you're struggling with. 147 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:45,910 Speaker 1: And when God does move, look for those things and 148 00:08:45,929 --> 00:08:47,890 Speaker 1: write them down. And I really think that that will 149 00:08:48,670 --> 00:08:49,989 Speaker 1: help your perception. 150 00:08:50,010 --> 00:08:50,970 Speaker 3: Yeah. 151 00:08:51,390 --> 00:08:54,650 Speaker 2: And then again, bringing it back to Thanksgiving is don't 152 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,730 Speaker 2: be like The nine lepers who were healed and didn't 153 00:08:57,790 --> 00:09:00,429 Speaker 2: come back to thank God for that and thank. 154 00:09:00,210 --> 00:09:00,990 Speaker 1: Jesus for that. 155 00:09:01,630 --> 00:09:04,870 Speaker 2: When you see those answers, prayers coming back and giving 156 00:09:04,929 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: thanks isn't just polite. And it's definitely not done so 157 00:09:10,900 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: that we butter God up. But it puts a marker 158 00:09:14,940 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: on the answer to prayer. It's a concrete reminder. God 159 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 2: did this thing kind of like writing it out in 160 00:09:24,940 --> 00:09:28,809 Speaker 2: a journal. a concrete reminder, God answered this prayer or 161 00:09:28,850 --> 00:09:31,290 Speaker 2: God provided for me in this way. 162 00:09:31,309 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you can take all of those answered 163 00:09:46,179 --> 00:09:48,500 Speaker 3: prayers and stick it to the people you were jealous 164 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,060 Speaker 3: of before. 165 00:09:49,750 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: And just put it out there and be like, look, see? No, 166 00:09:52,010 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. 167 00:09:52,940 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. With a real neener, neener, neener kind of attitude. 168 00:09:56,340 --> 00:09:57,350 Speaker 1: That's right. I know God knows that. 169 00:09:57,870 --> 00:09:58,130 Speaker 3: Yeah. 170 00:09:58,890 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: But, you know. Let's talk about. that jealousy though. Yeah. 171 00:10:01,380 --> 00:10:03,140 Speaker 3: I was going to say, we have not brought that 172 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,780 Speaker 3: word into it until this point, but it kind of, 173 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,700 Speaker 3: I mean, it could kind of be called, I don't 174 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 3: know if it's prayer jealousy, if it's like envy of 175 00:10:12,420 --> 00:10:13,500 Speaker 3: what would you call it? Do you think? 176 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, like when I think of prayer jealousy, I think of, 177 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,990 Speaker 2: I am envious of your prayer life. 178 00:10:19,050 --> 00:10:19,929 Speaker 1: Yes, same here. 179 00:10:19,970 --> 00:10:24,750 Speaker 2: We've addressed that tons of times. This is more of, 180 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:29,570 Speaker 2: I am jealous that God seems to be blessing you and. 181 00:10:31,630 --> 00:10:32,530 Speaker 1: Not blessing me. 182 00:10:32,550 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: And it can be really hard. I've been on both 183 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: sides of it. One really poignant one is, Scott was 184 00:10:40,950 --> 00:10:44,850 Speaker 2: teaching and sharing the testimony of God's very miraculous healing 185 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:50,150 Speaker 2: in our NICU baby's life. And halfway through, a mom 186 00:10:50,190 --> 00:10:52,890 Speaker 2: was like, well, we had a story that started off 187 00:10:52,929 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: kind of similar and our baby died. So what do 188 00:10:55,660 --> 00:11:00,500 Speaker 2: we do with that? And that is a terrible, impossible 189 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 2: question to answer on the spur of the moment when 190 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,770 Speaker 2: you're going on about God's miraculous healing. And so I 191 00:11:09,250 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: think I would say the two things that I would 192 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: caution people against is when you are the other mom 193 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: in that scenario, the mom whose baby died and someone 194 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,550 Speaker 2: else is rejoicing about a miraculous medical healing, the two 195 00:11:27,590 --> 00:11:31,770 Speaker 2: things I would say that would be the easiest traps 196 00:11:31,830 --> 00:11:36,130 Speaker 2: and temptations to fall into is, well, God doesn't love 197 00:11:36,190 --> 00:11:38,530 Speaker 2: me as much or God wasn't there for me. So 198 00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:45,270 Speaker 2: either blaming God Or blaming the other person, right? Oh, 199 00:11:45,550 --> 00:11:48,510 Speaker 2: aren't you lucky, but you don't know what it's like. 200 00:11:48,670 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: You know, so you almost put yourself in competition with 201 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,780 Speaker 2: the other person and they have no idea that you're 202 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,620 Speaker 2: doing that. In a very similar way that we can 203 00:11:57,179 --> 00:12:00,540 Speaker 2: put ourselves in a one-sided competition with people on social media. 204 00:12:00,620 --> 00:12:02,220 Speaker 2: They might not even know who we are. 205 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: And we might be. 206 00:12:03,420 --> 00:12:07,819 Speaker 2: Wasting like hours of emotional energy a week You know, 207 00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: being like, well, you look so good, but I hope 208 00:12:11,820 --> 00:12:15,069 Speaker 2: you have mold in your bathroom, you know, or just 209 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,170 Speaker 2: something dumb like that. Or I actually thought of one more. 210 00:12:19,210 --> 00:12:23,290 Speaker 2: The third pitfall is to blame it on yourself. To say, 211 00:12:23,309 --> 00:12:26,630 Speaker 2: I must have had unconfessed sin. I must not have 212 00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:32,969 Speaker 2: been trusting God enough. And... When you strip those, those 213 00:12:33,010 --> 00:12:36,450 Speaker 2: are the three easiest explanations, right? Blame God, blame the 214 00:12:36,490 --> 00:12:38,730 Speaker 2: other person, or blame yourself. When you strip those away, 215 00:12:38,750 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: I think all you're left with is a need to 216 00:12:42,290 --> 00:12:45,540 Speaker 2: have faith even when you don't understand. 217 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:46,420 Speaker 1: Yeah. 218 00:12:47,340 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: We had a very miraculous answer to prayer in our 219 00:12:51,540 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: church in Arizona years ago. And we actually, I had 220 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,990 Speaker 3: the parents on to give their testimony on the podcast. 221 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,650 Speaker 3: It's episode 67. And their son fell into a pool 222 00:13:04,670 --> 00:13:07,630 Speaker 3: and it was Super Bowl Sunday and they were moving 223 00:13:07,700 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: some stuff around and the gate got left and he 224 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: basically drowned. And they didn't think there was any way 225 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,420 Speaker 3: he was airlifted and they didn't think there was any 226 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:18,620 Speaker 3: way he would recover. 227 00:13:19,420 --> 00:13:20,570 Speaker 1: And he did. 228 00:13:21,490 --> 00:13:23,670 Speaker 3: And it's an incredible story if you want to go 229 00:13:23,690 --> 00:13:29,390 Speaker 3: back and listen. But I also have another friend who 230 00:13:29,830 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: lost a baby. And prayed just as hard for a miracle. And, 231 00:13:35,820 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: you know, it was... I know that she had a 232 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: hard time with some of the wording. There was a 233 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: newspaper article. And it was basically... Like, it almost was implying... 234 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,209 Speaker 3: I mean, it was great because it was talking about 235 00:13:51,250 --> 00:13:55,110 Speaker 3: prayer in a secular newspaper article. But it was almost implying, 236 00:13:55,570 --> 00:13:57,090 Speaker 3: if you pray hard enough, this is what. 237 00:13:56,990 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: God does, you know? And it really... that wrong. 238 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: With her because there's so much pain entangled with that 239 00:14:03,820 --> 00:14:05,260 Speaker 3: for the reasons we talked about. 240 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:07,380 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's one. 241 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,020 Speaker 3: Thing to just feel kind of like on the surface, like, huh, 242 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: this person really seems to be getting a lot more 243 00:14:13,540 --> 00:14:16,239 Speaker 3: action from God than me. And then there's another thing 244 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: when so much is at stake and these really big 245 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,900 Speaker 3: things happen. 246 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:20,740 Speaker 1: Yeah. 247 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,390 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, and I've been thinking a little bit 248 00:14:25,970 --> 00:14:30,490 Speaker 2: about like trauma-informed prayer, because that's, you know, that's one 249 00:14:30,530 --> 00:14:33,250 Speaker 2: of the new buzzwords. And I think it is important 250 00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:37,450 Speaker 2: to be trauma-informed and to recognize that some people do 251 00:14:37,570 --> 00:14:43,750 Speaker 2: have trauma or triggers. And like, I think your example 252 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:49,180 Speaker 2: is a really good instance of like trauma-informed testimony sharing 253 00:14:49,980 --> 00:14:54,340 Speaker 2: can be important. And not that, you know, in this case, 254 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,380 Speaker 2: it was kind of on the on the newspaper. But 255 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:02,750 Speaker 2: when you're sharing a testimony, it can be important to 256 00:15:03,330 --> 00:15:08,910 Speaker 2: word things. You know, like I had someone, like a 257 00:15:08,930 --> 00:15:11,870 Speaker 2: friend of my mom's who was involved in our life, 258 00:15:11,930 --> 00:15:15,650 Speaker 2: and she sent me a letter when we first became parents, 259 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: and her kids were like college age and up by then. 260 00:15:18,340 --> 00:15:21,830 Speaker 2: And I remember her writing and she's like, and, and 261 00:15:21,870 --> 00:15:24,250 Speaker 2: what I learned is that when you pray and you 262 00:15:24,290 --> 00:15:27,460 Speaker 2: put God first, he's going basically like, this wasn't verbatim. 263 00:15:27,780 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: When you pray and put God first, your kids are 264 00:15:29,620 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: going to grow up to worship him. And then like, 265 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,340 Speaker 2: I watched some of her kids wander. I've, you know, and, 266 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,140 Speaker 2: and I know that's not true, but at her points 267 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,140 Speaker 2: in her parenting, she saw the fact that I prayed 268 00:15:44,180 --> 00:15:46,330 Speaker 2: for my kids. I raised my kids in the church. 269 00:15:46,940 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: As of this moment of writing this sweet, encouraging letter 270 00:15:49,860 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: to someone that I love and care for very much 271 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,770 Speaker 2: and want to encourage, my children all have the outward 272 00:15:55,790 --> 00:16:01,030 Speaker 2: appearance of walking with the Lord. So therefore, the truth 273 00:16:01,330 --> 00:16:04,050 Speaker 2: must be that if you do A, then B happens. 274 00:16:04,490 --> 00:16:06,390 Speaker 2: And that's what we need to be careful about with 275 00:16:06,770 --> 00:16:13,460 Speaker 2: testimonies or sharing. And I also feel like, especially when 276 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: we talk about triggers, that can go overboard for sure. 277 00:16:17,250 --> 00:16:19,330 Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, so now I can't talk about 278 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:22,930 Speaker 2: how God took care of our NICU baby because some 279 00:16:23,210 --> 00:16:26,740 Speaker 2: NICU babies don't come out of the NICU? No, I 280 00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: don't think that that means that the person giving the 281 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,260 Speaker 2: testimony silences their story. But maybe there is a way 282 00:16:32,340 --> 00:16:35,340 Speaker 2: to not put it in absolutes, to not put it in, 283 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: and we prayed for our son and God healed him 284 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:42,860 Speaker 2: and have it just, amen, and to recognize that, yeah, 285 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:44,780 Speaker 2: there are complexities there. 286 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:45,460 Speaker 1: Yeah. 287 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,740 Speaker 3: I know on the podcast, I don't always know where 288 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:52,700 Speaker 3: the trigger warnings need to be and don't want to 289 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: go overboard, don't want to go overboard and then have 290 00:16:55,380 --> 00:17:00,330 Speaker 3: someone struggle. But it is just important, I think, to 291 00:17:01,250 --> 00:17:01,710 Speaker 3: be aware. 292 00:17:01,730 --> 00:17:02,430 Speaker 1: Yep. 293 00:17:03,890 --> 00:17:07,850 Speaker 2: And my thought is if you are extremely triggered, like 294 00:17:08,010 --> 00:17:13,330 Speaker 2: I don't even today, like almost 19 years later, I 295 00:17:13,369 --> 00:17:17,770 Speaker 2: don't watch anything that has to do with like traumatic 296 00:17:17,810 --> 00:17:20,250 Speaker 2: birth stuff. Like my husband and I watched House MD. 297 00:17:20,310 --> 00:17:24,170 Speaker 2: It's like a medical TV series. I'm like, if the 298 00:17:24,270 --> 00:17:26,620 Speaker 2: first scene was in a delivery room, I'm like, nope, 299 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: I don't even need to know what happens. 300 00:17:29,660 --> 00:17:30,940 Speaker 1: And maybe the baby's fine. 301 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,820 Speaker 2: And maybe this has nothing to do with a sick infant, 302 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,140 Speaker 2: but there's just an immediate note. So Yes, we can 303 00:17:38,180 --> 00:17:42,250 Speaker 2: be sensitive to others, but our sensitivity isn't going to 304 00:17:42,330 --> 00:17:45,090 Speaker 2: know how every single person is going to react. As 305 00:17:45,130 --> 00:17:49,070 Speaker 2: an example, I wrote an email talking about Alaska and 306 00:17:49,109 --> 00:17:52,790 Speaker 2: sharing what I considered a pretty funny story of how 307 00:17:52,869 --> 00:17:55,610 Speaker 2: my husband slipped on the ice, bonked his head so bad, 308 00:17:55,650 --> 00:17:57,330 Speaker 2: like he lost a couple weeks of memory. 309 00:17:57,369 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: I remember this. I remember this. And I was just, 310 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. 311 00:18:02,619 --> 00:18:05,859 Speaker 2: And someone wrote back and she's like, yeah, that happened 312 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,260 Speaker 2: to my husband too, and he died. 313 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,540 Speaker 1: And she was very gracious. 314 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,260 Speaker 2: There was not even a remote sense of how in 315 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,980 Speaker 2: the world could you make light of a story like this? 316 00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:19,940 Speaker 2: It was more of a, yeah, that ice is no joke. 317 00:18:32,380 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: There might be some people who'd be like, how in 318 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,830 Speaker 2: the world could you put a funny spin on a 319 00:18:36,890 --> 00:18:40,709 Speaker 2: story about something? And in that case, I would have 320 00:18:40,750 --> 00:18:44,370 Speaker 2: had to have examined myself and realized my conscience was clear. 321 00:18:44,510 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: I couldn't have known. You know, that is such a 322 00:18:47,380 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: fluke thing. And I couldn't have known. So all I'm 323 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:55,220 Speaker 2: saying is it's not 100% on the person sharing a 324 00:18:55,260 --> 00:19:00,109 Speaker 2: testimony or sharing a story to know every single potential thing. 325 00:19:00,740 --> 00:19:03,020 Speaker 2: that might trigger somebody. And if you know things might 326 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:07,150 Speaker 2: trigger you, kind of like me and House MD, sometimes 327 00:19:07,410 --> 00:19:10,609 Speaker 2: it's on you to just not put yourself in that 328 00:19:10,750 --> 00:19:14,010 Speaker 2: situation if you can help it. Yeah. It's tricky and 329 00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: it's hard. And I don't at all want that to 330 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: come across as, you know, if you get triggered, then. 331 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,060 Speaker 1: It's your fault. Because it's not. 332 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: It's trauma. 333 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: It's the. 334 00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:26,730 Speaker 2: impact of living in a fallen world where really bad 335 00:19:26,790 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: things have happened to you physically and emotionally and spiritually, 336 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: and your body remembers that and your soul remembers that. 337 00:19:33,740 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: So it's hard. It is important to have that at 338 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,220 Speaker 2: least a little bit in our minds when sharing testimonies 339 00:19:41,290 --> 00:19:44,250 Speaker 2: of answered prayer, but not to the point where we're 340 00:19:44,450 --> 00:19:47,169 Speaker 2: censoring so much that we're refusing to give God glory 341 00:19:47,210 --> 00:19:49,270 Speaker 2: for an answered prayer because someone else might not have 342 00:19:49,290 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: had an answered prayer. 343 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,460 Speaker 3: Yeah, or just even being mindful of when and where 344 00:19:53,540 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: to share it. You know, like if you have a 345 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,980 Speaker 3: friend who's struggling with infertility and you have a testimony 346 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:06,230 Speaker 3: regarding that, maybe you don't share that. 347 00:20:06,830 --> 00:20:07,810 Speaker 1: Maybe you just encourage that person. 348 00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:09,930 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got another friend too. Right? Because some people, 349 00:20:10,010 --> 00:20:12,250 Speaker 2: they don't want to be walked on eggshells over. 350 00:20:12,270 --> 00:20:14,750 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. It's really 351 00:20:14,890 --> 00:20:17,780 Speaker 1: hard to know. Yeah. No, that's a really, that's a 352 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: good point. Yeah. 353 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,060 Speaker 2: So sometimes if it's a close friend, I think sometimes 354 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: the best is to just approach them and be like, hey. 355 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: So for example, my roommate and I got engaged like 356 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: over the same Christmas break and we were going to 357 00:20:32,140 --> 00:20:35,580 Speaker 2: be each other's maids of honor. It was a really 358 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,459 Speaker 2: special time. We did all of our wedding dress shopping together. 359 00:20:39,619 --> 00:20:44,580 Speaker 2: And she called off her engagement and I was absolutely relieved. 360 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: It was a good thing. But then she, you know, 361 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,340 Speaker 2: a couple months later, she's at my wedding and she 362 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,939 Speaker 2: was so kind and so gracious. Do you know how 363 00:20:52,980 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: this story ends? Have I told you the happy ending? No, 364 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: I actually fell in love with Scott's best man. 365 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:00,100 Speaker 1: I was going to. 366 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,060 Speaker 2: Yeah. 367 00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:04,060 Speaker 3: If you had asked me to write the romance novel version, 368 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,459 Speaker 3: that's what I would have. 369 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: That's what I would have thought. 370 00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:10,810 Speaker 2: And it was super cute. But, um, but in a 371 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:15,410 Speaker 2: in a case like that she was beautiful and gracious 372 00:21:15,470 --> 00:21:17,830 Speaker 2: and willing to celebrate with me and it would have 373 00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:20,689 Speaker 2: hurt her feelings if I had been so much like 374 00:21:20,830 --> 00:21:24,630 Speaker 2: oh we can't talk about weddings around her because did 375 00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:28,260 Speaker 2: you know that she had this terrible breakup that would 376 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: have made it worse but in other cases I could 377 00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:32,859 Speaker 2: have gone so like hey is this going to be 378 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: too much for you like um going to a baby 379 00:21:36,980 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: shower after you've had a miscarriage. Is that going to 380 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:41,540 Speaker 2: be too much? And it's okay to ask somebody, is 381 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: this too much for you? And if so, I totally understand. Yeah. 382 00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:47,330 Speaker 3: And I was in a situation like that where I 383 00:21:47,369 --> 00:21:53,090 Speaker 3: was engaged and the engagement was broken off. And I 384 00:21:53,130 --> 00:21:59,350 Speaker 3: remember my roommates from college, I think we went on 385 00:21:59,390 --> 00:22:03,210 Speaker 3: a ski trip or something, and they wanted to watch. 386 00:22:03,580 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: The runaway bride or my best friend's wedding or something. 387 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, of course that's fine. But they 388 00:22:08,780 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: were like nervous, you know, they were like, we want 389 00:22:11,260 --> 00:22:12,859 Speaker 1: to watch this, but is it going to be okay? 390 00:22:12,900 --> 00:22:14,460 Speaker 1: Is it going to trigger you? And yeah. 391 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:16,980 Speaker 2: Right. Which is sweet of them to care, but also 392 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,699 Speaker 2: would have been over burdensome if they were too. 393 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,530 Speaker 1: Awkward about it. So it's hard, you. 394 00:22:24,450 --> 00:22:26,990 Speaker 2: Know, and, and we're all, we're never going to know 395 00:22:27,109 --> 00:22:31,730 Speaker 2: how every single individual is going to And maybe there 396 00:22:31,790 --> 00:22:33,609 Speaker 2: are even cases where like on one day you would 397 00:22:33,630 --> 00:22:35,629 Speaker 2: have loved to have watched a funny rom-com and on 398 00:22:35,690 --> 00:22:37,730 Speaker 2: other days it would have been the worst thing in 399 00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:41,550 Speaker 2: the world. So sometimes there's absolutely no way. Just like 400 00:22:41,609 --> 00:22:43,590 Speaker 2: there was no way I could have known that someone 401 00:22:43,630 --> 00:22:46,590 Speaker 2: on my email list had lost a husband due to 402 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: falling on the ice. You know, just sometimes we just 403 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,100 Speaker 2: don't know. And we can be gracious afterwards without accepting 404 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: moral guilt for having offended or triggered someone. You know 405 00:22:58,460 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: what I mean? 406 00:22:58,820 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. 407 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:00,420 Speaker 2: Yeah. 408 00:23:00,830 --> 00:23:04,129 Speaker 3: Well, so to kind of recap the, I feel like 409 00:23:04,170 --> 00:23:06,550 Speaker 3: we talked about two sides of this. I feel like 410 00:23:06,590 --> 00:23:10,370 Speaker 3: we talked about the, like, when you are feeling jealous 411 00:23:10,570 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: of someone's relationship with God or how God is working 412 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: in their life, that, you know, doing some journaling, gratitude, 413 00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:23,310 Speaker 3: focusing on just even the smallest blessings and kind of 414 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,980 Speaker 3: you know, just pointing yourself Godward, even when things don't seem, 415 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,189 Speaker 3: I loved your tip about like the bank account, the, 416 00:23:33,690 --> 00:23:35,170 Speaker 3: you know, opening. 417 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:37,270 Speaker 1: Up the fridge or the pantry, right. This fridge or 418 00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:40,530 Speaker 1: the pantry, like just focusing on gratitude. 419 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:44,570 Speaker 3: I love that in regardless of what the actual situation 420 00:23:44,670 --> 00:23:47,430 Speaker 3: is that God is at work in it. And, um, 421 00:23:47,869 --> 00:23:49,770 Speaker 3: and then like on the other side, I feel like 422 00:23:50,369 --> 00:23:55,129 Speaker 3: for us to be mindful of being sensitive, to sharing 423 00:23:55,170 --> 00:23:56,130 Speaker 3: our joy, sharing our prayers. 424 00:23:56,150 --> 00:23:58,050 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like sharing. 425 00:23:57,869 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 3: Our testimonies is sometimes, sometimes it's just like an overflow 426 00:24:04,020 --> 00:24:06,750 Speaker 3: of what God's doing in us and we can't help it. 427 00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:08,900 Speaker 3: You know, like some of the biblical stories where they're 428 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,699 Speaker 3: just like, oh my gosh, this is amazing. But to 429 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,220 Speaker 3: have that sensitivity of the trauma triggers, trauma informed. 430 00:24:17,869 --> 00:24:20,710 Speaker 2: Well, and I would even say in sharing testimony, like 431 00:24:20,830 --> 00:24:23,930 Speaker 2: don't hold back. I think the only thing to avoid, 432 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:30,139 Speaker 2: is making a blanket statement that says, and because I 433 00:24:30,220 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: prayed for deliverance from addiction, I never had a craving again, right? 434 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: And making it sound universal, right? Like you can say that, 435 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: that is some people's story. And that is a beautiful, 436 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,900 Speaker 2: powerful testimony. But I think in a case like that, 437 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,090 Speaker 2: it's like, and I know this isn't everyone's situation, but 438 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,270 Speaker 2: this is how God worked in my life. And to 439 00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:58,090 Speaker 2: not ascribe... your own, I did this, so God blessed 440 00:24:58,170 --> 00:25:00,869 Speaker 2: me in this way to it. Like a testimony should be, 441 00:25:00,930 --> 00:25:04,429 Speaker 2: God blessed me. It shouldn't be, I was so good 442 00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:07,260 Speaker 2: that I earned God's blessing. Right. 443 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,260 Speaker 3: Or this formula happens, God always acts this way in 444 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:12,180 Speaker 3: this situation. 445 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:18,260 Speaker 1: Because yeah, because he doesn't. He's very creative. Yes. 446 00:25:19,020 --> 00:25:21,890 Speaker 2: If you find somebody who's answered a prayer or their 447 00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:26,409 Speaker 2: testimony is to triggering for use of a loaded term. 448 00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:30,659 Speaker 2: I would say just use that as information, take it 449 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:32,780 Speaker 2: to God. I don't think the response is to go 450 00:25:32,820 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: to them unless it's like a super close friend. I'd 451 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: say like find somebody else to talk to or talk 452 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: to God about it and be like, I know that 453 00:25:40,940 --> 00:25:43,490 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to rejoice with my sister in the Lord 454 00:25:43,550 --> 00:25:48,190 Speaker 2: because of this, but all her testimony does is remind 455 00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:49,810 Speaker 2: me of what God didn't do in my life. 456 00:25:49,850 --> 00:25:50,909 Speaker 1: And it's okay to sit with that. 457 00:25:51,570 --> 00:25:53,609 Speaker 2: And when you come to God with that, or you 458 00:25:53,650 --> 00:25:56,730 Speaker 2: come to a close godly friend with that, it's not 459 00:25:57,070 --> 00:26:01,510 Speaker 2: going to stay there forever, right? It's just acknowledging the 460 00:26:01,530 --> 00:26:06,810 Speaker 2: weather of the day and not denying that that's how 461 00:26:06,830 --> 00:26:09,630 Speaker 2: you feel and also recognizing, I'm not going to feel 462 00:26:09,710 --> 00:26:11,169 Speaker 2: this way all the time, so it's okay. 463 00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:12,170 Speaker 1: Yeah. 464 00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:15,990 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for submitting that question, and you can 465 00:26:16,050 --> 00:26:20,740 Speaker 2: submit questions to us at prayingchristianwomen.com slash questions, and we 466 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,540 Speaker 2: would love to discuss what's on your mind. 467 00:26:23,859 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: And thank you all for listening. 468 00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:30,980 Speaker 3: We'd like to take just a quick second to thank 469 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,379 Speaker 3: the team at Life Audio for their partnership with us 470 00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: on the podcast. 471 00:26:34,859 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: If you go to lifeaudio.com, you. 472 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: Will find dozens of other faith-centered podcasts in their network. 473 00:26:40,260 --> 00:26:43,780 Speaker 1: They've got shows about prayer, Bible study, parenting, and so 474 00:26:43,820 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: much more. 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