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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country,

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Speaker 2: fighting for the future of our republic. My call is

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Speaker 1: College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending

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Speaker 2: I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade,

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Speaker 1: Well, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: We are back with another addition, live edition of Thursday

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Speaker 4: Thought crime definitely been a little bit since we've been

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Speaker 4: here on Live, excited to be back doing this. We've

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Speaker 4: had some elections going on, we've got a war going on,

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Speaker 4: but the thought crimes never end, and that's why brings

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Speaker 4: us back to tonight.

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Speaker 1: So let's look around the room. Who do we have tonight?

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Speaker 1: I know we've got right now.

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Speaker 5: You've just got me and Danny will allegedly have Andrew

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Speaker 5: join us. Eventually we'll see Tyler Boyer. I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: what happened to Tyler. I have to assume Tyler. Whenever

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Speaker 5: I can't find Tyler, I always jump to the first

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Speaker 5: thing that comes to mind, which is that he's been

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Speaker 5: forcibly conscripted by President Trump to go fight in the

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Speaker 5: Spice Wars on a different on a distant colony planet.

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Speaker 4: I would like to know if the Spy must flow,

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Speaker 4: is that.

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Speaker 5: Spice has definitely got a flow. And we all know

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Speaker 5: that Tyler's really passionate about the Spice flowing. We know

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Speaker 5: that he has good relations with the with the President's mentors,

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Speaker 5: we know he's got a long relationship with the Spacers Guild,

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Speaker 5: and I think between all of those things, he'll be

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Speaker 5: a real asset to the Spice horse.

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Speaker 1: Has he passed the pain box as of yet?

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Speaker 3: Man, do you ever see if he did that?

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Speaker 5: Do you know if Tyler ever passed the pain box.

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Speaker 6: I'm being honest with you, I don't know what this.

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Speaker 5: You don't know what the Spice Wars or the pain box.

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Speaker 5: And that's gonna get you conscripted to fight in the

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Speaker 5: Spice Wars and not in like a cool Sarto car regiment,

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Speaker 5: and you're probably just going to be thrown into like

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Speaker 5: the meat grinder.

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Speaker 6: Well, all right, sign me up there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you are an Ohio State fan?

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Speaker 1: What is?

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Speaker 6: What is the spice?

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Speaker 3: Spice?

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Speaker 5: Are very disappointed he doesn't know what the Spice Wars are, Jack,

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Think we can't very disappointed.

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Speaker 5: We can't reveal the secrets of the Beneges Era to

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Speaker 5: to Danny, and he's not aware of these things.

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Speaker 1: He is certainly not the quiznotsatorage.

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Speaker 3: Yes he is not.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is all foreign language.

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Speaker 5: I have no idea a typical Ohio State fan anyway,

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Speaker 5: So we'll have to just jump in there.

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Speaker 4: Has nothing to do with the with current events whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Just so disappointing.

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Speaker 5: What does have something to do with current events, though

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Speaker 5: is our first topic. Everyone knows what the biggest event

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Speaker 5: past well, definitely the past week, and it is of

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Speaker 5: course our venture going down and Iran. We aren't going

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Speaker 5: the topic of what's always used with this administration the

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Speaker 5: line America first and specifically what does America first mean?

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Speaker 5: Does America first mean specifically America only, America alone, America.

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Speaker 3: As soul, focus of all things? Or can America first?

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Speaker 3: Does that imply it can be.

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Speaker 5: First an other things? And there's a head of debate

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Speaker 5: about that. We were passing this clip around as we

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Speaker 5: first is is, of course the President's aid, Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 5: Let's look at what he had to say about this

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Speaker 5: on just a matter of days ago.

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Speaker 3: Six.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that people understand the Trump doctrine is

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Speaker 4: not isolationism. Maybe you can help set them straight, because

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Speaker 4: I'm not too effective.

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Speaker 7: I guess the President has made clear that he believes

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Speaker 7: America's awesome military might should be used to protect and

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Speaker 7: defend America's interests, not to surrender the world to our adversaries,

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Speaker 7: to our enemies, to those who would do us harm,

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Speaker 7: not to surrender the world's resources, lanes of commerce, or

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Speaker 7: capacity to keep our citizens safe. No, America First means

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Speaker 5: So that's kind of part of the debate. Is a

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Speaker 5: lot of I do feel, Jack, and maybe you agree

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Speaker 5: that maybe in kind of in the beginning of the

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Speaker 5: Trump surge twenty sixteen twenty twenty range, where America First

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Speaker 5: was getting thrown around a lot in politics, A lot

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Speaker 5: of it, actually it did, let's be frank, it had

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Speaker 5: something of a isolationist streak to it, or a breakaway

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Speaker 5: thing that the time for putting America first meant a

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Speaker 5: time of pulling back, pulling away from a lot of

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Speaker 5: international obligations. The idea was that a lot of foreign

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Speaker 5: adventures constituted putting the rest of the world first, and

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Speaker 5: that putting America first meant are focusing on America now.

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Speaker 5: Stephen Miller's MAGA credentials are pretty impeccable, I would say,

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Speaker 5: And he's pushing the line now that America first it

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Speaker 5: almost means a revival of Cold War levels of American

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Speaker 5: dominance that it does mean preserving an American empire or

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Speaker 5: American respect back to American primacy. And is there is

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Speaker 5: there a conflict between those things? Especially I guess does

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Speaker 5: it work as long as we are maintaining border security

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The thing that trips people up there is when you

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Speaker 6: said American interests. And that's more so like whose interests

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Speaker 6: said the other day, when we say American interest, is

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Speaker 6: that really America first? Are we kind of redefining the

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Speaker 6: unquote now fall under America First. So that's where definitely

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Speaker 4: I am just cracking up because in the chat someone wrote,

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Speaker 4: after after Blake drank all of that strong cell, I'm

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Speaker 4: looking forward to see him coming on TPUSA with a

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Speaker 4: three foot tall beehive hairdoo.

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Speaker 3: Look it says you need to Did I miss something?

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Speaker 1: Did you? Did you od on on strong Cell?

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Speaker 5: No, I've just been I've just been dilagent drinking my

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Speaker 5: strong cell every day.

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Speaker 1: Jack.

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Speaker 5: Unlike you know Andrew went to d C, he went

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Speaker 5: to the State of Union, he didn't bring strong Cell

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Speaker 5: with him. I think he reset the timer for whatever

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Speaker 5: all progress benefits. Yeah, I think following the rules. And

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Speaker 5: so he's he's he's lost the verve. Whereas I think

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Speaker 5: I'm about I think I'm about one week out and

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Speaker 5: I'm My expectation is is that I will close my

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Speaker 5: eyes one night and I shall wake up the next

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Speaker 5: day with a full, rich head of luscious hair.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll happen.

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Speaker 3: I believe, no be but Jack, Yeah, America first question.

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Speaker 4: Not to dodge the question, although I although I certainly

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Speaker 4: I certainly.

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Speaker 1: Am an adept at doing so.

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Speaker 4: Now, look, there's no question America First was always originally

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Speaker 4: deployed as an answer to the neo con sort of

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Speaker 4: back to that timeframe United States was still involved heavily

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Speaker 4: the world. And America First meant building the wall, it

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Speaker 4: meant putting the interests of Americans first. It meant taking

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Speaker 4: the American homeland. There's no question that's what America First

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Speaker 4: that doesn't necessarily mean that America is going to be

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Speaker 4: necessarily a contradiction in terms there because, look, you mentioned

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Speaker 4: Stephen Miller, because he's the guy who's been out front

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Speaker 4: and center every single day defending ICE, defending homeland security,

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Speaker 4: about rhetoric, the bigger debate is should America be isolationist

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Speaker 4: like influence in the wider world. And that's a debate

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Speaker 4: get into the chat that we're into right now, you know,

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Speaker 4: please go ahead, send in your rumble rants and in

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Speaker 4: your comments.

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Speaker 1: We're looking at it because we are alive. I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: your chats right there, right here, President, right here.

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Speaker 4: Dylan Ivy says he had it in his twenty seventeen

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Speaker 4: inauguration speech.

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Speaker 1: He said it twice.

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Speaker 4: I remember, America first preserves American culture, and it certainly does.

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Speaker 4: This is a huge part of America American excellence. And

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Speaker 4: to these things like the others, I'm certainly not someone.

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Speaker 1: Who's a proponent of these forever wars.

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Speaker 4: I'm certainly not someone who's a proponent of all of

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that Charlie was.

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Speaker 4: We obviously have seen Charlie's Charlie's tweets and statements on it.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, we don't necessarily want China

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Speaker 4: we like?

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Speaker 5: No, we don't, And I think what we do under

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Speaker 5: rate is America did get We looked at a lot

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Speaker 5: Bush years and the Obama years, the downsides of American

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Speaker 5: global powers. It's like, oh, it just seems to be

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Speaker 5: our job to perpetually have troops in dump countries like Afghanistan.

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Speaker 5: It's perpetually our job to pony up tens of billions

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Speaker 8: going to get further and further. Uh, you know, they

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Speaker 8: were going to increase their ability to outpace our production

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Speaker 8: to intercept those as a defensive posture.

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Speaker 6: So you know, and our production is.

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Speaker 4: But keep in mind that it's that that the Iran

447
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Speaker 4: also has an increased capacity for the Shahad drones and

448
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Speaker 4: drone swarms which has been built up because of the

449
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Speaker 4: Iraq or even the Ukraine war and those drones which

450
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Speaker 4: you've now seen. If you go look at Bahrain and UAE,

451
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Speaker 4: it almost looks like Iran has switched from the ballistic

452
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Speaker 4: missile posture to more of a drone attack posture because

453
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Speaker 4: they can send some money, or we're probably going to

454
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Speaker 4: be the cheapest, you know, you know, they're cheaper, and

455
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Speaker 4: you're probably going to start to see layered attacks because

456
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Speaker 4: these air interceptors are so much more expensive. But at

457
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Speaker 4: the same time you've got to try to use them

458
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Speaker 4: as much as possible to take out whatever you can. Meanwhile,

459
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Speaker 4: you've got the Kamakazi drones that could just slip right in.

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Speaker 4: We talked about this so much when you know, we

461
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Speaker 4: were talking about the context of Ukraine War. Now they're using,

462
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Speaker 4: you know, in a sort of a counter offensive counter

463
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Speaker 4: strike method and it's very successful against air defense. It's

464
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Speaker 4: just an id answer to smart weapons is dumb weapons.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there's a lot of truth in what

466
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Speaker 8: you're saying, and I think that could have motivated the

467
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Speaker 8: reason for the rationale for going now. I think the

468
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Speaker 8: central question though, is not about air air power superiority.

469
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Speaker 8: I think we've got that established. They basically we can

470
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Speaker 8: we can do what we want from the air. The

471
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Speaker 8: question and why this could continue dragging on is why,

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Speaker 8: you know, how much popular support did the IATOLA and

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Speaker 8: IRGC in the regime have in Iran, and that is

474
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Speaker 8: a question. And then if it's low, how much muscle

475
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Speaker 8: memories baked into the population after they just slaughtered twenty

476
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Speaker 8: or thirty thousand protesters that came out, Like there could

477
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Speaker 8: just be a function here where they're so scared to

478
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Speaker 8: come out after getting thirty thousand of killed, they're not

479
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Speaker 8: sure what happens next. They're gonna go out on the

480
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Speaker 8: street and then they're gonna get bombed by the RGC.

481
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Speaker 6: Also, how they organize, Like how do you.

482
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Speaker 8: Organize, Like how do you cause the dominoes to start

483
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Speaker 8: falling to oust the regime? And I think that feels

484
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Speaker 8: muddy to me. It feels very unclear how you start

485
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Speaker 8: a popular uprising even with the air power raining down

486
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Speaker 8: on the IRGC and the regime.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know.

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Speaker 4: Whatever happened Air Superior or whatever happened a sty in

489
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Speaker 4: Afghanistan for twenty years, correct, didn't cause the regime change.

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Speaker 8: Well, and we did boosts on the ground right back, Yeah,

491
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Speaker 8: and we did get regime changed, but it wasn't a

492
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Speaker 8: peaceful thing we caused, you know, uh, Secretary, Yeah, I'm

493
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Speaker 8: just saying like, even with that, it depends on the

494
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Speaker 8: the nature of the country itself, like, is Iran a

495
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Speaker 8: country that could basically just at this point peacefully turnover

496
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Speaker 8: leadership or is there forty percent of the country that's

497
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Speaker 8: gonna hang on for dear life? And we've been you know,

498
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Speaker 8: Blake and I kept talking about this. We had these

499
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Speaker 8: Iranians that would come on the show and during the

500
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Speaker 8: popular uprising and in the protests, and we asked ourselves

501
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Speaker 8: after it was done, were like, it was this an op,

502
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Speaker 8: like are are we getting spun? And you know, it

503
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Speaker 8: was unclear to us because they were all basically saying

504
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Speaker 8: nobody likes the regime, nobody likes the RGC, and everybody

505
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Speaker 8: loves this Pavla whatever his name.

506
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Speaker 3: I always forget what's his name.

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Speaker 8: Rasa and Blake and I were like, yeah, we just

508
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Speaker 8: got endless.

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Speaker 5: We just got endless stuff where it's like I saw

510
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Speaker 5: the funniest one, which was a thread online that was

511
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Speaker 5: It's like it was like, ask me anything, I'm inside

512
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Speaker 5: Iran and like every other answer is finding a way.

513
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Speaker 5: It's like we're all just waiting for the Sha to

514
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Speaker 5: order us to go into the streets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, bud okay, bud.

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Speaker 3: But another thing we want to hit here.

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Speaker 5: So, as Dan said, gen Z seems pretty skeptical. We

537
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Speaker 5: saw that with our students, but I think another interesting

538
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Speaker 5: populist angle of potential anger on this war. This has

539
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Speaker 5: become I think the first big story, first big crisis

540
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Speaker 5: of any kind where we've had these modern prediction markets

541
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Speaker 5: play such a huge role, which is we've got people

542
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Speaker 5: casting bets on Calshi, on Polymarket, probably on other places

543
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Speaker 5: as well, for how the war is going to go.

544
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Speaker 5: And we have a disturbing amount of evidence that military

545
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Speaker 5: insiders were able to bet on what would happen, for example,

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Speaker 5: to the Ayatola. The New York Times had an article

547
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Speaker 5: that about I think about a thousand people were able

548
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Speaker 5: to cast.

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Speaker 3: Bets specifically that thousand.

550
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Speaker 5: About a thousand people cast bets specifically that there would

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Speaker 5: be bomb strikes on Iran. I believe on Saturday, because

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Speaker 5: it happened Saturday morning or Saturday afternoon in Iran, and

553
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Speaker 5: that was way more than any surrounding day. It's not

554
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Speaker 5: just that a ton of people are betting. It was

555
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Speaker 5: clear a ton of people had information. Some of them

556
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Speaker 5: made tens of thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Some of them I.

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Speaker 5: Think made half a million dollars or more. Some people,

559
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Speaker 5: it's good, really cashed in on this. And there's two

560
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Speaker 5: possible answers. One is there's people who are really good

561
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Speaker 5: at reading the signals, maybe in terms of radio traffic

562
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Speaker 5: internet traffic, like they can see the signs when a

563
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Speaker 5: military strikes about to happen. Or we can do the

564
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Speaker 5: much more direct thing, which is currently not even illegal

565
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Speaker 5: to insider trade on this sort of thing. And you

566
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Speaker 5: might have people in our admin, people elsewhere in the government,

567
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Speaker 5: people in foreign admins, people in foreign militaries, and they

568
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Speaker 5: got the news this is going down. And the first

569
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Speaker 5: they did was they opened up a prediction market and

570
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Speaker 5: they said, yeah, I'm going to bet ten thousand dollars

571
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Speaker 5: that we bomb tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It was one hundred and fifty eight accounts placed hundreds

574
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Speaker 6: of bets of at least one thousand dollars or more.

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Speaker 3: Were they all in the Pentagon.

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Speaker 6: He would have had to be I don't know, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Like who would even be the most like obvious actors here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you place a bet? Did you do it?

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Speaker 3: You've got good So.

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Speaker 4: I don't gamble, and you know, I've I've I've actually

581
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Speaker 4: kind of been racking my brain about this for a

582
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Speaker 4: while now, and I just I just I don't I

583
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Speaker 4: don't have like a prohibition against gambling.

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Speaker 1: I just don't do it.

585
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Speaker 4: And I'm sorry, but these prediction markets are just gambling.

586
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Speaker 1: They're just online gambling. It's online betting. There's no question.

587
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Speaker 6: But they say.

588
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Speaker 5: This is insider trading on kind of questions of importance,

589
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Speaker 5: and there's like two levels of that.

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Speaker 4: I don't I mean, I don't think it had to

591
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Speaker 4: have been insider training. I will say this because on

592
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Speaker 4: human events, I didn't have any specific inside knowledge that

593
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Speaker 4: the bombing wasn't going to start on Saturday. But we

594
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Speaker 4: told everybody that, and you know, we went and Andrew

595
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Speaker 4: you know, I remember, you know you went and like

596
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Speaker 4: kind of said, hey, let's all sort of be around

597
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Speaker 4: the don't go too far from the studio this weekend.

598
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Speaker 4: So like we we kind of had a sense that

599
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Speaker 4: things were off.

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Speaker 6: It's more so the thousand dollars or more.

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Speaker 8: I was gonna say, it's one thing to say be

602
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Speaker 8: available if stuff goes off.

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Speaker 3: It's another thing to put money down, like real money.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not disagreeing.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying there are ways you could have done it,

606
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Speaker 4: Devil's advocate, But yeah, this doesn't seem like that.

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Speaker 8: I think there's a but Blake brings up a good point.

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Speaker 8: This is like not a regulated industry, you know. This

609
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Speaker 8: is like it's not necessarily illegal to do this.

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Speaker 5: And I've brought this up a few times before, and

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Speaker 5: I'm just waiting because you create disturbing incentives when you

612
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Speaker 5: can bet on this sort of thing. Because as an example,

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Speaker 5: let's say President Trump was super fifty to fifty on

614
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Speaker 5: weather to do it, and a guy is like, I

615
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Speaker 5: can make a lot of money if I can make

616
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Speaker 5: a bombing happen tomorrow, and he tilts the president a

617
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Speaker 5: certain way. He's one of his advisor. He says the

618
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Speaker 5: best time to hit us tomorrow, not on Monday. And

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Speaker 5: that doesn't have to be on war stuff. It could

620
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Speaker 5: be imagine a guy who places a bunch of bets.

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Speaker 5: Let's say Justice Alito retires from the Supreme Court, and

622
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Speaker 5: there's five favorites and like some long shot, and the

623
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Speaker 5: guy it's someone guy who advises the president, bets one

624
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Speaker 5: thousand dollars ten thousand dollars on this one percent long shot,

625
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Speaker 5: and then he just endlessly lobbies the president on that

626
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Speaker 5: specific guy, not because he'll be the best justice, but

627
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Speaker 5: because that guy could make a ton of money. But

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Speaker 5: obviously it's most worrying on military stuff because let's say

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Speaker 5: Iran has guys watching these markets and they're able to see, Oh,

630
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Speaker 5: a crapload of money just came in on a strike

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Speaker 5: happening tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually have it. On Friday morning, it went

633
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Speaker 6: it was at seven percent that we strike, and then

634
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Speaker 6: it closed Friday night at twelve twenty six percent, So

635
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Speaker 6: we went from seven to just Friday alone.

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Speaker 5: And I'm just gonna say, I think a straightforward thing

637
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Speaker 5: we should say is like, if you are betting on

638
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Speaker 5: a US military operation based on insider knowledge, we should

639
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Speaker 5: treat that the same way we would treat any other espionage.

640
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Speaker 5: Deliberately leak in US military intel. And I'm a bit

641
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Speaker 5: of an authoritarian, I would say, you know, if you

642
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Speaker 5: do that, Bam firing squad. Oh, come on, leak at

643
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Speaker 5: US military intelligence.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's true, that's true. Okay, okay.

645
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Speaker 1: It would actually be a good way to to sow deception.

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Speaker 6: Though.

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Speaker 4: So if if Secretary Higgs has is watching this, you know,

648
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Speaker 4: and we're about to launch another round of strikes or something,

649
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Speaker 4: you should you should deliberately bet money on like the

650
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Speaker 4: wrong day or something, and just show this huge spike

651
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Speaker 4: going up on one day so that you know, perhaps

652
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Speaker 4: our adversaries think, oh my gosh, this is going to

653
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Speaker 4: be the day they move things out of place, but

654
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Speaker 4: then that actually isn't the day, and then you strike

655
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Speaker 4: the day before or something like that.

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Speaker 3: That's for sure real.

657
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Speaker 5: But I would point out that's kind of like you

658
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Speaker 5: can have fake spies, fake double agents, fake leaks of intelligence,

659
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Speaker 5: but you still have to very sharply punish real leaks

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Speaker 5: of intelligence.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, that's interesting. So Foz is bringing up a good point.

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Speaker 8: These crypto You can use crypto on these prediction markets,

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Speaker 8: which means there's a level of anonymity. Right, So senators

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Speaker 8: interview introduce a bill to ban officials from trading on

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Speaker 8: prediction markets. Jeff Merkley from Oregon and Amy Klovachar so

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Speaker 8: two Democrats.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I kind of think it's right up there with like

669
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Speaker 8: banning stock trading, to be honest, which we.

670
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Speaker 5: Should probably totally members of Congress. But it's both in

671
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 5: a lot of ways. It's more sinister because you can

672
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Speaker 5: have a direct financial incentive to just on any potential

673
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Speaker 5: policy thing, like Okay, you know this company will benefit

674
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: from Congress's regulatory actions. That's bad, and we know Congress

675
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 5: does it, but now we're just on the level of

676
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 5: whether we go to war or not is substantially based

677
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 5: on how much one can insider trade on what the

678
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Speaker 5: decision we reaches.

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Speaker 3: That's really spooky. Yeah, I actually think you're right.

680
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Speaker 8: The more I'm thinking about this, the more we really

681
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 8: need to kind of clamp down on this because as

682
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Speaker 8: a matter of fact, the banning stock trading, we should

683
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Speaker 8: do ban we should just do it all together as

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Speaker 8: one bill ban officials trading on prediction markets.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and officials, and I just get generally concerned about

686
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 5: the amount that the way these prediction markets let you

687
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Speaker 5: corrupt the process of government. And I think it's just

688
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 5: a ticking time bomb until we have a really bad

689
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Speaker 5: scandal related to it, Like this is almost marginal. There's

690
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Speaker 5: a really huge one that we could have, and it's

691
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Speaker 5: it's gonna eventually occur. A funny spin off of this,

692
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Speaker 5: by the way, is that they had betting markets on

693
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Speaker 5: Calshi about whether the Supreme Leader Kamene would be out

694
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Speaker 5: by March first, and a lot of people were betting

695
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Speaker 5: on that, possibly because the new strike would be hitting him,

696
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Speaker 5: and Calshi has an else that actually that was only

697
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Speaker 5: related to him leaving office.

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Speaker 3: And you can't bet.

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00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 5: They can't bet on a death because that would create

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00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 5: bad incentives, and so they say they are not fulfilling

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Speaker 5: the contract.

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Speaker 3: For they're just returning the money or they're just.

703
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 5: Gonna return the money and they're not letting people collect

704
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 5: their winnings on him getting turned into you know, pavement paint,

705
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: got him on a technicality, got him on a technicology.

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Speaker 3: That I mean that that would be super bumped. I

707
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Speaker 3: would bum you out.

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Speaker 6: Though.

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Speaker 8: Imagine if you were like to imagine like Lindsey Graham

710
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 8: betting on something like that, I bet he would have

711
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Speaker 8: like put a grip down on that and then not

712
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 8: getting the payout, poor Lindsay. But by the way, can

713
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 8: we just talk about this guy for okay, Lindsay Graham.

714
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 8: This guy is like frothing at the mouth, just like,

715
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 8: let's bomb more, let's like remove more dictators and regime change.

716
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 8: And I like, for the life of me, I do

717
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Speaker 8: not know why they let this man behind the camera.

718
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 8: Why do they let this guy or behind the mycrophone?

719
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 8: Why every if you are wanting popular support for this war,

720
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Speaker 8: you should put a clamp down order on Lindsay Graham,

721
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Speaker 8: because every time the man talks like I, I cringe.

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Speaker 8: And it doesn't matter what good point that he may

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Speaker 8: be making, I just can't listen to it anymore.

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Speaker 3: That's my rant.

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Speaker 6: Well, now we're going the talks of Cuba. Oh now,

726
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 6: so yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well listen, I think the whole point with Cuba is

728
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Speaker 8: that you would maybe be able apparently after Venezuela, fl

729
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Speaker 8: Cuba's probably yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, and also Cuba's I mean, affects us so much

731
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Speaker 6: more than I ran, which is seven thousand miles away.

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Speaker 6: Cuba's ninety miles right from Florida.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and by the way, you know, I do think

734
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Speaker 8: that there is a case to be made that Cuba

735
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Speaker 8: could fall just all on its own.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't. And maybe Jack you might know this.

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Speaker 8: Because you spent some time in Cuba, But the Cuban

738
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 8: intelligence services are still one of the most highly regarded

739
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Speaker 8: in the entire world. Like, the whole country sucks, but

740
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Speaker 8: like the one thing that they have that is pretty

741
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Speaker 8: a f is their intel op.

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Speaker 1: That's all the thing. It's the only thing they put

743
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Speaker 1: their money into.

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Speaker 8: It's like their biggest export. It's their biggest I'm not here.

745
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 8: They sell it to Venezuela.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they didn't help them, didn't help them much there.

747
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Speaker 3: But well it's yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 4: No, there's no question that the Cuban government, the Cuban

749
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Speaker 4: Communist regime has been definitely weakend for the first time

750
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Speaker 4: since I guess the nineteen fifties. You don't have a

751
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: Castro in office, right, and so this is a time

752
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: where the culture personality around the Castro family isn't necessarily

753
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Speaker 4: there in the way that it was. It's something that's

754
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: clearly right off the coast of the United States. It's

755
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: something where look, it's our our oldest overseas base is

756
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Speaker 4: Guantanamo Bay, where I spent a year since eighteen ninety eight.

757
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: There was talk about annexing it after the Spanish American War.

758
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 4: There's lots of arguments that America should have done this.

759
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Speaker 4: I'm actually kind of partial to some of those arguments. Again,

760
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: that's you know, hypothetical alternate history type stuff. You know,

761
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Speaker 4: obviously past is unchangeable.

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Speaker 1: At this point.

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Speaker 4: But the same time, it would clearly be much much

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00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: more in America's interests to have a friendly a friendly

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Speaker 4: government there in Cuba.

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Speaker 1: There's no question, and it would keep it honestly, would

767
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Speaker 1: be in Cuba's interest.

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Speaker 8: Too, Monroe doctrine. This is our hemisphere. Yes, I'm so listen.

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Speaker 3: I have a one frame of reference for far flung

770
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Speaker 3: wars in the Middle East. I have a whole other

771
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: frame of reference for wars in our hemisphere, or at least.

772
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Speaker 1: I mean Cuba.

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Speaker 4: Havana is like ninety miles from from Miami, right, it's

774
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 4: like right there.

775
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not saying I want to go invade, just

776
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 8: like I saw Danny give me the stink guy. I'm

777
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 8: not trying to go invade Cuba. I'm just saying the

778
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 8: interests are a lot easier to sell.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, and that's an easier thing to sell to

780
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 6: the American people than I ran, just because of its

781
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 6: proximity to the United States.

782
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Speaker 3: Cuba, Blake invade, I just don't.

783
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Speaker 5: I just feel like, yeah, one hundred fifty okay, is

784
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 5: it nineteen sixty Cuba. Cuba just like a dump that

785
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 5: if we overthrew it, this would be a classic case

786
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 5: of where we'd suddenly be suckered into giving them twenty

787
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 5: billion dollars. It's just this decrepit place. It has an

788
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 5: average age of like fifty. Almost every anyone who can

789
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 5: get out of that country has left.

790
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: Who cares it?

791
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 5: Like we've talked about Iran plausibly being this like Cold

792
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: War hangover, that all these sixty five year olds remember

793
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 5: the hostage.

794
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 3: Crisis and want to do something. Iran is Is that

795
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 3: on a cuba? Is that on steroids?

796
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 5: It's people who are still mad about the Bay of

797
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 5: Pigs and maybe the jfk assassination might have involved it, and.

798
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 8: They haven't done anything lately, sucked and we get them

799
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 8: to come here. Yeah, I mean, listen, here's the thing.

800
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 8: This is what I'm saying. Lindsay Graham needs to shut

801
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 8: his yapper, stop talking, get him out of the view

802
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 8: of a camera.

803
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 3: For the love.

804
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 8: I know it's a free country, but if I'm the

805
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 8: Trump administration, I'm telling Lindsay Graham stop talking. You are

806
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 8: only harming the costs.

807
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 5: It's all right, We're gonna get off the war here

808
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: in a second. But there was a question for Jack

809
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 5: from Sandra gaev Hart. Jack, can you explain war? Meaning

810
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: we've been successful with quick attacks, why do we need

811
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 5: to keep.

812
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 6: Going in now?

813
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 5: I know it's not cut and dry, but there is

814
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 5: a chance we can be done quick.

815
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 4: I'm reading this again. Why do we need to keep

816
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: going in now? I know it's not cut in dry,

817
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 4: but is there a chance we can be done quick?

818
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean, I'm not exactly sure what the

819
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: question is, but I guess I'll explain it in terms

820
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 4: of this. You know, the difference here between Venezuela and

821
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Speaker 4: Iran is the difference in regimes. So in Venezuela you

822
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: had a durable regime, but at the same time you

823
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: had you have a lot more influence to bear and

824
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: a single singular person who's really in charge of that

825
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: regime being, you know, in the case of that, Nicholas

826
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Speaker 4: Maduro and someone Delsea Rodriguez who is willing to work

827
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Speaker 4: with the United States. In the case of Iran, it's

828
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Speaker 4: much more of a mixed bag. And I was I

829
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Speaker 4: was on Piers Morgan with like Tim Miller and some people,

830
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Speaker 4: and they were like laughing about this, and I was

831
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Speaker 4: trying to explain to them that, you know, in Iran

832
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: it is mixed leadership. It's a decentralized revolutionary regime where

833
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 4: you have the IRGC military, you know, secret military, religious police,

834
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Speaker 4: kind of thing, which we don't really have a cognate

835
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Speaker 4: four in the United States. We have the civilian leadership

836
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Speaker 4: in terms of the president, the foreign minister, and then

837
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Speaker 4: of course the Ayatola and the system of malas and

838
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Speaker 4: now the Ietola's son, who may or may not have

839
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Speaker 4: taken over. And so it's not like you can just

840
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Speaker 4: change out one person and suddenly they, you know, become

841
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Speaker 4: pro us.

842
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Speaker 1: It's just not like that.

843
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Speaker 4: They've also had much much longer to be in power

844
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Speaker 4: and have always been since nineteen seventy nine, a revolutionary

845
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 4: state for forty seven years, and so there they built

846
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 4: up all of these institutions, they built up all of

847
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: this power, all of this internal domestic control for the

848
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: Islamic government. They just don't have the same type of

849
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 4: government that a secular state would have. This is also

850
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 4: actually it's kind of the reason that they didn't always

851
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: work with the Communists, right, because the Communists were seen

852
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: as atheists, and so even though they were roughly aligned

853
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: with the Soviet Union during those years, they weren't necessarily

854
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: super pro Soviet Union either. They also supported the Islamists

855
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: and the Mujahagien in Afghanistan for the same reason. So

856
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 4: you know, perhaps would have been better for their regime

857
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: to have done so, but they're very fiercely independent. They're

858
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 4: very hard to work with, and they are, for lack

859
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 4: of a better term, actually Islamic jihadists and radicals.

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Speaker 8: You know, most people don't understand the ethnicities. How many

861
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 8: ethnicities there are in Iran.

862
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot. I was just looking at this though.

863
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 8: Iran is a diverse, multi ethnic nation. It's type of

864
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 8: over there ninety million people, with ethnic Persians constituting the

865
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Speaker 8: majority approx. Approximately sixty one percent. Other major ethnics groups

866
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 8: include the Azeris sixteen percent, Kurds ten percent, the Lures

867
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Speaker 8: six percent, Baloic Arabs, and various Turkic Turkic tribes such

868
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 8: as Turkmen and Kashkai.

869
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Speaker 3: So this is I mean, this is whereas Venice, Okay,

870
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: new world is different than old world. New World.

871
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 8: You got Venezuela. It's got this like national identity. They

872
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 8: kind of fall in line, even though they might have

873
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 8: different mixes of European and indigenous or whatever.

874
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: This is something different.

875
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 8: This is old world stuff where these people have really

876
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 8: deeply entrenched identities and that's why you get factionalism. That's

877
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 8: why you get this tribalism. That's why when there's a

878
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 8: power vacuum, this tribe fights that tribe and this group,

879
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 8: you know, goes.

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Speaker 5: I will say my understanding from people I've talked to

881
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 5: is a lot of these groups are basically still just Persians.

882
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 5: Like that on your map here you've got these purple

883
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 5: guys along the Caspian Sea.

884
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: They're totally just Persian. I think you're right. I tend

885
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: to agree with that, but it's still the Kurds are

886
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: very different than you know.

887
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: And yeah, the Kurds I would I would put aside,

888
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 4: but Persian identity, right, the Persian Empire is an ancient state,

889
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 4: so it already had sort of this identity as a

890
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: as a country in the sense in it just in

891
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: a different way that Iraq and Afghanistan never really had

892
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 4: because there was this Persian Empire identity that they all

893
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: sort of had to begin with. So it isn't necessarily

894
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 4: you're not necessarily going to see the same level of

895
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: separatism as you would in in Afghanistan or Iraq. Now,

896
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: now the Kurds, obviously I wouldn't necessarily put in that

897
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: same bucket, But at the same time, you know, there's

898
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 4: there's real questions is whether or not the Kurds are

899
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: interested in going out against the Iranian army.

900
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 3: I I agree.

901
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 8: I think the bigger question is how much popular support

902
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 8: does the regime still have?

903
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: And nobody can give me an answer. By the way,

904
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 3: we got a question. So you can see.

905
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: Videos, by the way that of of people marching in

906
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 4: to here Square with pictures of the Ayatola carrying flags

907
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 4: of the regime. Again, martyrdom is massive in Shia Islam.

908
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: To understand the power of giving them a martyr, someone

909
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 4: who died for the Islamic Revolution, someone who died at

910
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 4: the hands of the Great Satan and the Little Satan

911
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: right the US Israeli Joint regime again putting it in

912
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 4: their words. So they're certainly viewing him as a holy martyr.

913
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: They're certainly viewing him as something someone to uphold, and

914
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: it's going to galvanized supporters of the regime in the

915
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: same way that it may also lend some credibility to

916
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: the opposition.

917
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying, Jack.

918
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 8: You know, we got a comment from old Floridian says,

919
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 8: you guys need to talk to Robbi Dawkins about what's

920
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 8: going on inside Iran. We actually had Robbie on the

921
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk Show and got a lot of emails about him.

922
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 8: So and I've known Robbie for years. He's a good dude.

923
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Speaker 8: He's very bullish though, and you know, and yes he's

924
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 8: he's in country. He says, the popular uprising is going

925
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 8: to materialize in Iran International. They're they're they're circling Sunday

926
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 8: at the break of dawn, that there's people are going

927
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 8: to hit the streets.

928
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: I hope all of that's true. I'm just really skeptical because.

929
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Why don't want to tell the RGC that.

930
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean exactly. So anyways, here we.

931
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Speaker 6: Go, all right, well, before we move on from prediction markets, Blake,

932
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Speaker 6: I was just wondering if we could get a prediction

933
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Speaker 6: market going on. A strong cell will grow your hair back.

934
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Speaker 9: And I.

935
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Speaker 5: Am one confident that I shall have a completely luscious and.

936
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Speaker 3: Full head of hair.

937
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Speaker 6: He's got to be.

938
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Speaker 5: There's a sprout bloom forth like flowers in the in

939
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Speaker 5: the desert or something.

940
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Speaker 8: And before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood

941
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Speaker 8: something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a

942
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Speaker 8: diploma or a title. He chased truth through Hillsdale College's

943
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Speaker 8: free online courses. He studied the great works of the Classics,

944
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Speaker 8: the principles of the American Founding, and the life changing

945
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Speaker 8: truths of the Bible. Those ideas didn't just inform him,

946
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Speaker 8: they shaped his character, strengthened his convictions, and prepared him

947
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Speaker 8: for the challenges ahead of. One of the courses he

948
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Speaker 8: took was The Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale Professor doctor

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Speaker 8: Justin Jackson. This free online course explores the relationship between

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Speaker 8: God and man, what happens when that relationship is broken,

951
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Speaker 8: and the path toward reconciliation. It's a real college course, rigorous, thoughtful,

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958
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Speaker 8: But we have a very important topic that has nothing

959
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Speaker 8: to do with around. It has nothing to do with Cuba,

960
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 8: mercifully and that is Luigi the musical. Oh not not

961
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 8: Mario's brother, that other Luigi Luigi man g on.

962
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: I think Jack should go to the opening night, do

963
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: man on the street? I want to go to the

964
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: open night. Clake, you, Blake and Jack need to go.

965
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 5: The thing is is I just I kind of want

966
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 5: to see the musical. Yeah, we have clips. I'm not

967
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 5: sure if this is a clip from the musical or

968
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 5: just about it. It just says clip, but I think

969
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 5: we got to see it.

970
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: It is for sixty Can I get a soap and

971
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: some towels?

972
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: I guess yeah.

973
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 3: Let's just check your balance.

974
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: It looks like it is.

975
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: Four hundred thousand dollars.

976
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 10: Wait, what what what are you talking about?

977
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: What do you mean? Where's that coming from?

978
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 10: It looks like a couple of places, Nopes for Healthcare Reform,

979
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 10: Bottoms United for Luigi.

980
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 3: The Lindsey Graham.

981
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 8: Okay, I saw that clip earlier. I didn't understand. Foz

982
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 8: was like, oh good, tie in for the next clip,

983
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 8: and I didn't catch it. But I actually I lo

984
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 8: oled at.

985
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: The at the Lindsay Lindsey.

986
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 5: So that was an excerpt from Well, I suppose not

987
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 5: a song I want, what are the musical numbers in

988
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 5: this guy idea?

989
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: But the San fran looked fabulous.

990
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, so for those who couldn't see it that had

991
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 5: they had Luigi in an orange jumpsuit. So I guess

992
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 5: I think the context is that must be him after

993
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 5: he's been arrested.

994
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 8: He's getting a show and you buy supplies and they

995
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 8: check your you know.

996
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyways, I think Jack, I think you should start.

997
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 4: I mean, look, this is disgusting, there's no question, and

998
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: this is it just goes to show you that the

999
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 4: the actual rise of support for Bolshevik activity is absolutely

1000
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 4: alive and well in the United States. Not only no,

1001
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 4: so not only do we see the sort of transformation

1002
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 4: of Luigi Maggioni into a folk hero who is an

1003
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 4: assassin by the way, who shot and killed someone in

1004
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 4: cold blood murder on the street on video that we've

1005
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 4: also seen the I can't believe it's in the video.

1006
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 4: We've seen him lose the access to the death penalty.

1007
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: I think the death penalty has been stripped in in

1008
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 4: both cases now, the state and federal case which he's facing.

1009
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 4: And by the way, he shows no remorse for his actions.

1010
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 4: He was lashing out in court just a couple of

1011
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 4: days ago when he was in his last hearing, so

1012
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 4: it certainly shows no remorse. Other Robinson also shows no

1013
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: remorse by the way, smirking and laughing.

1014
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: In his court hearings. And you see MAGGIONI.

1015
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: Also, I think they took away his murder charge in

1016
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: one of the cases. I'm trying to remember of the

1017
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 4: top of my head. But it's it's the way that

1018
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: this has been handled in the court is completely insane.

1019
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: Public opinion is absolutely playing a role here.

1020
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: The judiciary is buying large in agreement with Antifa activity here.

1021
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: And you know what can I say?

1022
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 4: It's it's it's Sacho and Vanzetti got what they deserved

1023
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 4: and Luigi deserves exactly the same. And yet here we

1024
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 4: are one hundred years later, and we just can't seem

1025
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 4: to deal with these Italian anarchists anymore.

1026
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 5: A little swipe at the effect I'm looking at whether

1027
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 5: it's any good? And I guess, so, how does San

1028
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 5: Francisco r on now? It's just it's running in New York,

1029
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 5: only a few blocks away from where he actually did

1030
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 5: the murder, where the murder was committed. A theater critic

1031
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 5: for the San Francisco Chronicle, which I guess it's something

1032
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 5: called the newspaper. I don't know if those I didn't

1033
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 5: know those existed. Still, but so this, Lila Janiak said,

1034
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 5: if only the show itself could justify the hype, bringing

1035
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 5: national attention to the often underappreciated Bay Area theater scene. Unfortunately,

1036
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 5: it just isn't any good, which I've got to say,

1037
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 5: how can San Francisco, Like, how do they produce a

1038
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 5: bad musical? If there's I feel like, if any town

1039
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 5: has enough, you know, remember the game, you should be

1040
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 5: able to produce good musicals.

1041
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 3: It should be San Francisco. Where is that that musical

1042
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: that we're coming for your kids? Children?

1043
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 6: Francisco Choir?

1044
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: Yeah you think that?

1045
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, that wasn't any good either. It was just shockingly horrific.

1046
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 8: So so it says the musical satirical prison comedy inspired

1047
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 8: by the Bizarre true story, It's not bizarre, it's murderous.

1048
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 8: It's disgusting. Of three high profile inmates house together at

1049
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 8: the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. Sold out its preview run,

1050
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 8: and it's now adding part comedy, part social commentary.

1051
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 3: Luigi.

1052
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 8: The musical reimagines larger than life public figures as exaggerated

1053
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 8: characters representing three disillusioned pillars of American life, healthcare, Hollywood,

1054
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 8: and tech. Luigi the Musical use his comedy to bring

1055
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 8: deeper questions to the surface, says director and co creator

1056
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 8: Nova Bradford.

1057
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: But it, says Luigi the Musical doesn't glorify violence. It

1058
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: interrogates it. Oh got there.

1059
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 5: We need a ban on using the word interrogate in

1060
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 5: describing anything that is not the police questioning somebody, because

1061
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 5: they do that, that's a total college, postmodern world.

1062
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so would they do would they do a Jay

1063
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: six musical? Would they say, oh, JA six, which.

1064
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: You know where where no one died, No one was

1065
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: killed on j six, No one was killed by Maga

1066
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: right on J six, actually b Abbat died, you know,

1067
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 4: the protester who died. No, because they would lose their

1068
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: minds if anyone did something like that. But if you

1069
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: do a Luigi Maggioni musical or Luigi Maggioni is clearly,

1070
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 4: by the way, the protagonist of this thing where it's

1071
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 4: not that anti here, it's a comedy that yeah, he's

1072
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: he's they're basically I don't even think they're giving him

1073
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 4: an anti hero work. I think they're just showing him

1074
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 4: as a hero. Yeah, they're just they're just making him

1075
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 4: like the hero and everyone's a celebrity and he's just

1076
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 4: I wonder, I wonder if he can.

1077
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's actually getting any money out of

1078
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: this thing. Probably not, because.

1079
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 5: It's I think it would be illegal for him to

1080
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 5: get it under Son of Sam.

1081
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah there's that act. That's I forgot that. The day

1082
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 4: of the law is but you can't benefit from.

1083
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 5: The Son of Sam laws because the actual son of

1084
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 5: Sam sold his memoirs.

1085
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 3: I believe in law.

1086
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

1087
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, so here we got the clips. It's six

1088
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: thirty five. Let's play it.

1089
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 10: Saturday Night Live does this all the time, which is

1090
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 10: why we lead it into satire. Satire you have to

1091
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 10: take to an extreme so people know this is not

1092
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 10: about the people. It's about the themes that we're interrogating.

1093
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 9: The reaction I think about whether we were in the

1094
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 9: right to be creating art in this way also overlooks

1095
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Speaker 9: the fact that we are all kind of exposed to

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Speaker 9: frequent information and takes on these things all the time.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot of violence surrounding us right now,

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Speaker 3: And of course we are not. Our intention is never

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Speaker 3: going to be to make a mockery of the of that. Ever,

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Speaker 3: we would never Okay, people, did that guy? Here's the ise.

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Speaker 3: Did that first guy have like a Hitler mustache? He

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Speaker 3: kind of looked like he did. No, that's just the

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00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 3: San Francisco gay man squire. We need to zoom in.

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Speaker 3: I think we should.

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Speaker 8: We should look back rushmography. I think that stage aography.

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Speaker 8: So here's the big problem, and I'm stealing this from Faz,

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00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 8: He's totally right on this. The big problem is that

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00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 8: there's a freaking audience for this. We have become so

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Speaker 8: unmoored from you know, morality, We've become so unmoored from

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Speaker 8: the value of life and that life should be protected

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00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 8: at all costs. Okay, yeah, you can interrogate the healthcare

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Speaker 8: system without you know, further contributing to creating a folk

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Speaker 8: hero out of Luigi Maggioni, who is a cold blooded murderer,

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Speaker 8: who is guilty of first degree murder and assassination. And

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Speaker 8: you know what happened to Charlie. I mean, I'll never

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Speaker 8: forget the clips of Charlie warning about the rise of

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00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 8: assassination culture, only to see him become a victim of it,

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Speaker 8: and for them to do this and to completely brush

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Speaker 8: it off and talk about his art and that this

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Speaker 8: is some elevated thing.

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Speaker 6: No, well, we have a graph on it. Thirty one

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Speaker 6: is the graph to thirty percent of lives. I believe

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Speaker 6: it's totally justified.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, will live an infamy discuss I'll I'll just say,

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Speaker 4: you know, because I know we're all thinking it.

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Speaker 1: They would do one of these about Charlie if if Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Robinson was you know, more photogenic and yeah, and if

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Speaker 4: they could get away.

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 3: I would, literally I would. There, you know they would.

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00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 3: I would. You know, they were absolutely nuts and I

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00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: would do everything in my power to just ruin their days.

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Speaker 5: Everything in your power, not obviously not that legally speaking

1134
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Speaker 5: in minecraft, I would.

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Speaker 3: I would. I would try and block it.

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00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 8: I would sue them, I would, I would protest outside

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00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 8: the venue.

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Speaker 1: But does anyone disagree?

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with you. I agree, I agree, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I that they would. They'd be laughing about it, and

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00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: they would. They would. They would clearly be mocking Erica.

1142
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: There's no question about that.

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00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: We see that every day now, which is disgusting, and

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00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 4: they would make that a huge part of it, and

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00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 4: it would be it would just be turned into a

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00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 4: huge joke.

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00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's sort of like this giant mockery.

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Speaker 3: It really is.

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00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 8: It's a it's making a mockery out of something extraordinarily.

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Speaker 5: I can see, I can see the reality manifesting in

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00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 5: front of me where the show keeps playing, or they

1152
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 5: just bring it back where they successfully. They mean this

1153
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 5: so hard that Luigi gets off on a heinous murder

1154
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: he committed, and then he shows up at his own musical,

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00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 5: his own satirical music call.

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Speaker 1: But there is a musical called The Assassins, isn't there.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I am I'm not a huge musical

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00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 5: theater enthusiast, but uh so there's a musical by Stephen

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00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 5: Sondheim called The Assassins.

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Speaker 4: It is a a you know, this is kind of

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00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 4: a uh also uses satires. I mean, Stephen Sondheim is

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00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 4: very very famous musical theater guy. And I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: remember the cat. So the characters in this are John

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Speaker 4: Wolf's Booth, Charles Gatteau, Leon chol Goosh who seat McKinley,

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Speaker 4: Giuseppe Zengia, John Hinckley, Lee, Harvey Oswald. So those are

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Speaker 4: all those are all cast members of you know, members

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Speaker 4: of the of the show in the Assassins and it's

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Speaker 4: you know, it's it's all about them.

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Speaker 1: Pretty fun. Well in Stepheim, very very famous.

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Speaker 5: In the Book of Mormon, they have Genghis Khan, Hitler,

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey Dahmer, and Johnny Cochrane appear during a song set

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Speaker 5: in Hell.

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Speaker 1: They as have a general. I can't remember his name.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember his name?

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Speaker 3: Blake General?

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Speaker 5: I can't say his name because this is merely a

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Speaker 5: PG thirteen show, not an R rated one.

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Speaker 8: Uh, breaking inside scoop from our friend Grant Stinchfield. Trump

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Speaker 8: will endorsed Senator John Cornyn over Texas a.

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Speaker 3: G that's barely breaking, I feel like. And there's a

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Speaker 3: video just the Save America get in the Save Act.

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00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 3: Apparently that's a thought. It worth having in the Senate

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Speaker 3: for six more years if you get the Save America Act.

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00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: So is the Save America Act that part of the scoop? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Is it?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I kind of wonder.

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Speaker 8: Because Paxton has been promised to very big positions within

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Speaker 8: the Trump administration. Cornyn's going to agree to pass the

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Speaker 8: Save America app.

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Speaker 6: Does that mean we're getting rid of the filibusters?

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Speaker 3: It could be could mean that we're getting rid of

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Speaker 3: pan BONDI.

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Speaker 5: Well, boy, I mean that'll be a fun confirmation fight too,

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00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 5: there's so much exciting.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would assume.

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Speaker 1: I don't think BONDI goes anywhere.

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Speaker 3: I mean, our chat is not enjoying this news.

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Speaker 6: By the way.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just listen. This is from Grant's ditchfield. I'm

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Speaker 8: not saying it's true. I'm saying he's He's saying it's

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Speaker 8: an inside.

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Speaker 6: Scoopn't I mean that we have to end the filibuster then.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it would mean. Maybe they'd be

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Speaker 3: willing to do it finally.

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Speaker 1: Just for this.

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Speaker 5: I mean it does strike me as the sort of

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Speaker 5: thing that make promise him where they'll say, well, now

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Speaker 5: he's on board, but we can't do it because this other.

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Speaker 3: Sor you'd have to get it. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if if they're smart, they would say, listen,

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Speaker 8: we need McConnell on board, we need Susan Collins on board,

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Speaker 8: we need least well because because I guarantee you, those

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Speaker 8: senators want Cornyan to stick around they don't want another

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Speaker 8: bulldog like Paxton.

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Speaker 5: Now, will it is it worth passing the Save Act?

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of I mean one of my

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Speaker 5: thought crimes is I know a lot of people are

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Speaker 5: very invested in it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that act is.

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Speaker 5: If I was go to say, if I needed one

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Speaker 5: piece of legislation that I could appeal with filibuster pass.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it would be that one. You

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Speaker 3: know what mine would be immigration reform. Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 8: I'd take the annual green cards down from one point

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Speaker 8: two million to about zero point two which is about

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Speaker 8: net zero immigration, and I change them all to like

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Speaker 8: genius visas, no genius visas and gold visa.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: I turns out this whole Trump thing where he's like

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Speaker 8: you have to have five million dollars in net worth

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Speaker 8: and you get a gold gold visa or whatever you

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Speaker 8: have to invest turns out a lot of countries have

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Speaker 8: that and they're very successful.

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Speaker 3: So I'm open minded to that.

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Speaker 4: But the problem with ours, though, is historically with the

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Speaker 4: EB five program, it be the investments are always end.

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Speaker 1: Up kind of being like scams.

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01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so totally, Like the Chinese investors get their green

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Speaker 4: cards and the jobs and projects never materialized.

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Speaker 8: You know, you're totally right, it would have to be

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Speaker 8: actually stringently enforced. But here's the benefit. If you drop

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Speaker 8: the number down of total green cards, then you'd actually

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Speaker 8: be able to.

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Speaker 6: Well, Andrew, if we had if we had real senators

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01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 6: who actually showed up to work, we could get more

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Speaker 6: than one thing done too. If we passed the filibuster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, if we.

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Speaker 8: Didn't have a fake and gay Senate, then it would

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Speaker 8: be actually something we could do.

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, but none of them actually show up to work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the whole thing. Blake has a great

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Speaker 3: take on this that the most positive upside the of

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Speaker 3: nuke and the filibuster is that Congress would actually have

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Speaker 3: to do work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and it'll be tough because this is why.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like you kind of want to have

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Speaker 5: the Democrats to break it because one there'll be some

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Speaker 5: we don't have the Branks, right, there will be some

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 5: criticism exactly so, and like there will be some backlash

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Speaker 5: against the party that does it. It'll take them time

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Speaker 5: to do it. We seem to constantly oscillating back and forth.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to be breaking the filibuster to pass

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Speaker 5: one bill only three months before like losing.

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Speaker 3: The ability to pass. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 8: I've been told very affirmatively that really the way to

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01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 8: do this will not impact the mid terms. If you

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01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 8: want the save ac past, you got to include it

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Speaker 8: in the reconciliation bill in September, and then it won't

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Speaker 8: It will be ready for the presidential election twenty eight,

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Speaker 8: but it's not going to be ready before then.

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Speaker 3: The other thing they should they should include in this.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if there's a way to do it

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Speaker 8: in reconciliation redo the damn census.

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Speaker 6: The thing is, Bob, they can do it before the

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Speaker 6: president has the power to call for in theory.

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Speaker 8: In theory, in theory, the Commerce Department, Yeah, could call

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Speaker 8: for it, but then you need to fund it. And

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Speaker 8: the question is how do you fund? I mean, listen,

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Speaker 8: where there's a will, there's a way. I believe that

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Speaker 8: that's the way the Democratic republics should work. In theory,

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Speaker 8: I don't know, probably derailized.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 6: Also, the problem with letting the Democrats do it first

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01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 6: is they're just gonna call for amnesty.

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Speaker 8: Well, they're gonna call for amnesty, they're gonna make Puerto

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Speaker 8: Rico states, so we'll never win again anyway.

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Speaker 3: And then they're gonna they're gonna pack the Supreme So.

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Speaker 6: Then waiting to get back in power by letting them

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Speaker 6: do it first. It doesn't really matter anyways, because they

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Speaker 6: would have already.

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Speaker 8: Listen, why don't we match their state for state thing

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Speaker 8: and basically turn eastern Washington into a state?

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Speaker 3: Why don't we turn eastern Oregon in? Well, you do

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Speaker 3: to dismember states.

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Speaker 5: To do dismember states, it cannot be done without the

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Speaker 5: permission of that state, So you have to become is

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Speaker 5: off the state that agrees to that. All right, Well,

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01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 5: then break up Republican states into two. I think at

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01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 5: the point where we're creating new states by splitting states

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Speaker 5: and a half, I'm just gonna say we are at

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01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 5: we're at the point of just national death spot. Might yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think I think of more likely it'll be funny

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Speaker 5: for them to start trying to make Puerto Rico a state,

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01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 5: and then they'll just confront what a disaster, what a

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01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 5: disaster piece Puerto Rico is as an entity, Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 3: That I guess we do.

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Speaker 6: I guess we have floating pile of garbage. That was

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Speaker 6: the line. What the floating pile of garbage the line,

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Speaker 6: I guess what we could do?

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Speaker 3: What we could we could we could use that.

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Speaker 5: We could get rid of the filibuster, and we could

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Speaker 5: impose independence on Puerto Rico, pre empt them preempt that side.

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Speaker 5: We just give the presidency to.

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Speaker 1: For our Caribbean operations. So it makes sense. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot of naval a lot of naval infrastructure down there.

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Speaker 8: Well, we just have to lease that piece of land

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Speaker 8: like we do with Guantanamo Bay. Here's the other part

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Speaker 8: we could do. And I saw this floated in an article.

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Speaker 8: Uh so, based on the history of how DC was

1322
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 8: laid out, you know that the original map was stretched

1323
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Speaker 8: much further into northern Virginia.

1324
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be square, Yeah, exactly.

1325
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Speaker 8: So the point is you could capture back something like

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Speaker 8: six hundred thousand or five hundred thousand Northern Virginians and

1327
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 8: put them back in the District of Columbia, apparently by

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Speaker 8: presidential edict.

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Speaker 3: That's what they claimed. I know, I know, I know.

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying, if you're gonna if you're if you're

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Speaker 8: preempting their preemption, right, if you're getting ahead of this,

1332
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 8: you make Puerto Rico independent you you permanently leased the

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01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 8: naval facility there. Then you grant back the land in

1334
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 8: northern Virginia, so you make Virginia essentially a red state.

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Speaker 8: Then by giving all the Dems back to DC and

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Speaker 8: a couple of and then you do the immigration thing.

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Speaker 8: Those are the things you really did say that, Yeah,

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 8: it's it's tough. Thou be preemptive measures to block their

1339
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 8: ability to really do it's tough.

1340
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Speaker 3: It would be interesting.

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01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 5: Just a side effect of creating a real Congress is

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01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 5: it would be hard to know exactly what would unfold

1343
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 5: because people have gotten so use to voting with a

1344
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 5: Congress that's fake. So you'd probably you'd probably in the

1345
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 5: end end up getting more moderates in Congress because people

1346
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 5: would get a little more spooked by the promises people

1347
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 5: make because we're so usarge, like you want to vote

1348
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 5: for people like these days, people are voting for these

1349
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 5: absolute fire breathers in part because I think deep down

1350
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 5: they know that nothing is ever getting passed by this Congress.

1351
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 3: That's my gut feeling. I don't know about that.

1352
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe not, though, like in I guess to go

1353
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 5: the other way in the I guess I would say

1354
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 5: in the UK, they have a lot of squishes into parties.

1355
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 5: And in the UK they do have total absolute sovereignty

1356
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 5: of Parliament, can pass whatever it wants at any time,

1357
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 5: and there's definitely no filibuster, and you always have majority

1358
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 5: control because that's what decides who is the Prime Minister.

1359
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 5: And as a result, you seem to perpetually have a

1360
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 5: bunch of squishes in the House of Commons.

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Speaker 8: Interesting, and I think I think you see that in

1362
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 8: a lot of different I think you might be right

1363
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 8: in the long term, but in the short run, we've

1364
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 8: got this muscle memory built up for fire breathers and

1365
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 8: we want them. I mean, this is the whole point

1366
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 8: of like, it's dumb for Trump to back Cornyn when

1367
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 8: you have Paxton sitting there, who's proven he can win

1368
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 8: a statewide race by ten points. By the way, not

1369
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 8: saying he would repeat that. Maybe it would be closer,

1370
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 8: certainly because that was a wave year a little bit

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Speaker 8: with Trump winning.

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Speaker 6: But anyways, well, and also if I mean the grassroots

1373
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 6: is upset about it, yeah, the grassroots may not even

1374
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 6: show up though.

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01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: Also, this is what I'm worried about.

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Speaker 8: You take everything good off the board and you think

1377
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 8: you're going to energize the base. You have another thing coming, like,

1378
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 8: you have to give the grassroots it's due.

1379
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 6: You have to give them, especially when the turnout was

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 6: already going to be low. So now you just yeah,

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Speaker 6: I take them again.

1382
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Speaker 3: Fully believe that.

1383
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 8: I think there's been a lot of press. I think

1384
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 8: the thing that turns turnout out is press, just people

1385
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 8: talking about out at Tall Rico, the drama, like it's

1386
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 8: going to turn out people.

1387
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 4: But you got to figure that if the grass given

1388
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 4: the corner to the guy who was booed off of

1389
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 4: the stage at the NERA convention in Texas just a

1390
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. So if the grassroots aren't fired

1391
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 4: up for this guy, no, that's because he just because

1392
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 4: he gets the endorsement right, as powerful as it is,

1393
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean you're going to get the same level

1394
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 4: the same level of turnout.

1395
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 5: And then.

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Speaker 4: This is a race we know where the Democrats are

1397
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 4: going to put a ton of money into. They we

1398
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 4: just know they're going to They're going to look at

1399
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 4: flipping a seat.

1400
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 8: And I got interviewed by this New York Times reporter,

1401
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 8: real seasoned political reporter because I was tweeting up a

1402
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 8: storm yesterday about Tall Rico, and she kept you could

1403
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 8: tell what she was really driving at. She's like, do

1404
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 8: you think this post is a more serious danger to

1405
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 8: the Republican Party when you have a evangelical that kind

1406
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 8: of presents the way he doesn't. My take on it is,

1407
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 8: you know, maybe in the context of Texas, he'll fool

1408
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 8: some like normy, middle of the road people, but like,

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01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 8: if you're a real Christian, a real evangelical, like steeped

1410
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 8: in the culture of evangelicalism, the big megachurches in Texas,

1411
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 8: this guy makes your skin crawl because it's like this

1412
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 8: fake religious skin suit that he's wearing, this gollie ge

1413
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 8: shucks like God's non binary and it's like, you know,

1414
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 8: trans abortions and pronouns on your business cards. It's like, no,

1415
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 8: this guy, this guy will animate the base in a

1416
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 8: massive way. So I actually think tall Rico is so

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01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 8: hatable that he's going to animate a big turnout. But

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01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 8: you're right, Cornin is not going to animate a big turnout.

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01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 8: And Texas is different than a lot of states, Like

1420
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 8: Texas has its own identity, Texas has its own gravitational pool,

1421
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 8: you know. And I think Trump's endorsement is only going

1422
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 8: to carry so far.

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01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 6: It is very similar though to Warnock and the fake

1424
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 6: Christian Act that they pulled there in twenty twenty, and

1425
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 6: in the twenty twenty one runoff there too, they got

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01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 6: him to become a senator.

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01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of.

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01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 6: People stayed home after twenty twenty and with the and

1429
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 6: then independence, either voted for him and fell for that,

1430
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 6: or just didn't vote at all.

1431
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1432
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 3: Well interesting.

1433
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 6: Mike Pompeo has also just endorsed John Cornyn too, of course,

1434
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 6: are falling, Yeah, all right.

1435
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 8: Listen, politics is the art of the possible. You don't

1436
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 8: get everything you want. It's important to say that. You know,

1437
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 8: we were looking at that one clip Blake where some

1438
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 8: caller called in Jack, you'll appreciate this some It was

1439
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 8: an email we got you read it to Charlie and

1440
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 8: maybe I just saw it. Maybe you didn't see this clip,

1441
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 8: but the email said I regret voting for President Trump.

1442
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 8: This was, you know, twenty five, early.

1443
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five. And Charlie just immediately said, be careful

1444
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 3: when you say that we have the clip.

1445
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 8: I think we do sor right if you have the

1446
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 8: clip and I you know, it's moments like this where

1447
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 8: you got to remember that President Trump has been an

1448
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 8: absolute fighter for the grassroots. He doesn't get everything right,

1449
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 8: and it's moments like this, Yeah we have all right,

1450
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 8: four ninety one.

1451
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 5: Of Joe Spinella five dollars. I regret my vote. Voted

1452
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 5: Trump sixteen, twenty twenty four.

1453
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 3: Let me just pause. We're almost done.

1454
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: Well, No, I want to pause.

1455
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 3: Be careful with that statement. Who what's his name?

1456
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: Joe?

1457
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 3: Joe?

1458
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: Because if all of a sudden, the economy is booming

1459
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: in December and we're getting spending cuts and the border

1460
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 2: secure and we're on Project ten million, be careful just

1461
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 2: saying you regret it, if this is just might be

1462
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: one night you don't like. Just be careful with such

1463
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: a statement like that.

1464
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 8: That was pretty strong, so Blake, Yeah, I had no

1465
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 8: hair upon my face. Jack, you are an avatar for

1466
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 8: many in the MAGA movement. I reflect on what Charlie said, though.

1467
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get what Charlie saying. Charlie sand let him cook,

1468
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 4: Charlie san let the man cook. Let the man that

1469
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 4: we entrusted with our vote, the man who rose up

1470
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 4: at Butler, Pennsylvania to his feet and roared like a lion,

1471
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 4: the man who we put all of our hopes and

1472
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 4: dreams into in twenty twenty four. Let him cook, all right, literally,

1473
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 4: just let him cook. And you don't always know what

1474
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 4: the end game is going to be with President Trump

1475
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 4: because he operates from a level of strategic ambiguity.

1476
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: He uses strategic ambiguity to his benefit.

1477
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 4: I mean, you might go to sleep on Friday and

1478
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 4: wake up and find that we've arrested the president of

1479
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 4: Venezuela right without it, you know, any.

1480
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: Question about that.

1481
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 3: It was a little bit of a surprise.

1482
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 4: It's just something where I think what Charlie's saying is,

1483
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 4: you know, wait until you see the results, Wait until

1484
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 4: you see the results.

1485
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: Here's what Here's where I go back.

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01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 8: I fall back on the fact that Democrats are simply unacceptable,

1487
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 8: and so yeah, we need to keep the fire on.

1488
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 3: We need to keep the pressure on.

1489
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 8: Senator Mark Wayne Ullan is a personal friend of mine,

1490
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 8: but he's now going to be in charge of DHS.

1491
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 8: I will absolutely light him up with a billion texts

1492
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 8: if he starts, you know, getting soft and so you

1493
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 8: keep the pressure to go though.

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01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: But I could be good.

1495
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 8: I think you'll But listen, here's let me just preview

1496
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 8: what's gonna happen here. They're gonna put negotiating pieces on

1497
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 8: the table at DHS to get sanctuary cities to fall

1498
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 8: in line.

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01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 3: The question is what do you put on the table

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01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 3: to get that done?

1501
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 8: Anyways, I'm just I'm I'm previewing where this is gonna go,

1502
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 8: and everybody needs to brace for impact.

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01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 3: I will say, you will get commas, not drama.

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 9: You know.

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01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 8: That was the expression that one of our guests used

1506
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 8: on the show today. If you get them to hand

1507
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 8: over the criminal illegals that are just arrested in normal

1508
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 8: due process, okay, you will get massive results if you

1509
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 8: get that. So are they gonna try and trade amnesty

1510
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 8: for some? Are they gonna try try and trade guest

1511
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 8: workers for some. Are they gonna say, hey, we'll leave

1512
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,520
Speaker 8: the peaceful ones alone. Are they gonna say DACA recipients

1513
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 8: get citizenship. Whatever that thing is that they're gonna put

1514
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:50,879
Speaker 8: on the offering block.

1515
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 3: It's gonna be. It could be, you know, I don't know.

1516
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 3: Just just just I'm warning you.

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01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 8: But the point is, democrats are simply on acceptable. We

1518
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 8: got to keep the pressure on. But like the reason

1519
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 8: we're even talking about Somali fraud, and nineteen billion dollars.

1520
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 8: The reason we're talking about twenty million illegals flooding the border,

1521
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 8: the reason we're talking about Catholics getting surveilled, the reason

1522
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 8: we're talking about JA sixers getting in prison, The reason

1523
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 8: we're talking about all these terrible things is because Democrats,

1524
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 8: so they're simply unacceptable.

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01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 3: Is as frustrating as the process can be.

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Speaker 3: All right, last topic.

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Speaker 5: If we want to keep going, I don't know. If

1547
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 5: we have five months, we could do kids in church.

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Speaker 3: Kids in church.

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 5: We're diving into it, all right, So this is all.

1550
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 5: This was all sparked. I believe we have uh, the

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 5: church in Washington. Let's throw that up and let's post this. Uh,

1552
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 5: let's save it French too. Well, we need the initial prompting.

1553
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,839
Speaker 5: So this is a church in Washington and they publish

1554
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 5: their loud Kids policy, which is UH. At Mount Washington Church,

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01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 5: we are committed to transparency and accountability in all matters

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01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,919
Speaker 5: of church life. The following document outlines are comprehensive procedures

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 5: regarding loud children in worship. Please consider this your official

1558
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 5: notice of policy clarification. Option effective immediately. If a family

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01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 5: is considering visiting Mount Washington Church and they have a

1560
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 5: loud kid, the following options are available. Option one, the

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01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 5: family brings the kid. Option two, the family makes sure

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01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 5: that they bring the kid. Option three, the family is

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 5: to see that the kid is brought to church. And

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01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 5: option four the kid is absolutely welcome and respected.

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01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 3: So this went viral.

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01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 5: Of course, they say policy enacted, no exceptions. They're saying,

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01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 5: bring your kids in. It doesn't matter how much they

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01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 5: scream or puke.

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 3: Fact, if your child makes noise, you are not bothering us,

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01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,759
Speaker 3: you are blessing us. And so there were a variety

1571
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 3: of responses to that.

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01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 5: That was embraced by a man I feel like we

1573
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 5: don't hear as much from lately, but he was a

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01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 5: lot during the early Trump days and he does still exist,

1575
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 5: and that is David French. And David French strongly endorsed

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01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 5: that he thought that was a great policy for churches

1577
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 5: to have. But there was also a competing response tweet

1578
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 5: from Matt Walsh, a guy a lot of us know,

1579
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 5: and he said, I don't love it. He says, I'm

1580
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 5: actually considerably less tolerant of loud kids in public now

1581
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 5: than I was before I had my own. Your children

1582
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 5: should not be allowed to disrupt a church service or

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01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 5: any other public gathering. If they're being unruly unruly, remove

1584
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 5: them if they're old enough to know better, take them

1585
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 5: out and discipline them. And if they're too young to

1586
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 5: control themselves, then again remove them. I've had to do

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01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 5: this many times in many situations. It blows my mind

1588
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 5: when parents just let them just sit there and let

1589
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 5: their kids totally disrupt and irritate an entire room full

1590
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 5: of strangers.

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01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: I don't have any.

1592
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 5: Kids, but how do you guys feel about this?

1593
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 3: Jack and Andrew, Jack's Jack's the Catholic guy go first.

1594
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 4: Well, I'll go yeah, So, I mean we look when

1595
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 4: when your kids are little, that's a time where you know,

1596
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 4: like like babies and toddlers, each kid, you know, kind

1597
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 4: of grows out of at a certain time, they're going

1598
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 4: to go through that crying stage. And yeah, there are

1599
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 4: times if the kids just wailing, you go in the back.

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01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 4: You just you take them in the back, You hang

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01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 4: out there till they till they've calmed down, and then

1602
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 4: you bring them back. You want them, you want them

1603
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 4: to experience as much as possible. So one thing that

1604
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 4: we do at church that we've done since we've had

1605
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 4: kids is that we sit in the very front row,

1606
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 4: or at least as close to the front row as possible,

1607
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 4: so they can see everything that's going on, and we

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01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 4: tend to choose churches that.

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01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: Have, you know, have much more going.

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01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 4: On in terms of what you see, not just staying

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01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 4: glass windows, but artwork and you know, more traditional services

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01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 4: than sort of like the y m c A with

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01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 4: across kind of churches, if you know what I mean.

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01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 4: And so we want them to be able to see

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01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 4: all of that. But at the same same time, if

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01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 4: your kids being loud, if your kids being unruly, then

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01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 4: they need to be disciplined, there's no question.

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01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: And I use a variety of.

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01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 4: Incentives and punishments, right, so you know it's it's the

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01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 4: carrot and stick method, but the incentives are, Hey, you

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01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 4: know I usually what I'll tell the kids is all right, guys,

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01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 4: if you're good in church today, we're going to wah wah.

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01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 4: But then if they're not good, I'll sit there and

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01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 4: go is that wahwah behavior?

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01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 3: Is that wah wah behavior?

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 4: And then they'll kind of realize if not, and if

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01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 4: they're really bad, guess what, we don't go to wah wah.

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01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 4: And if they're worse, they go they go in the

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01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 4: back and they get time out. There's no question, So

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01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 4: you have to discipline. So I think there's a you know, look,

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01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to ever come down on a parent

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01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 4: that's you know, that's got a kid that's not listening.

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01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 4: But at the same time, you do have to have

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Speaker 4: like actual, you know, just basic social understanding and social

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01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 4: braces when you're out in public, not just in church.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 8: I sounded off on this and that got like quoted

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01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 8: in a few places. Suppress you know, it's just like, listen,

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01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 8: I'm a father of three. My kids are crazy. They're

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01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 8: really good kids, pretty well behaved when we give them,

1641
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 8: like when we prep them, but they're loud, like we

1642
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 8: have energetic kids. I actually think Jack, your kids, from

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01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 8: what I've gathered, are better behaved in public than mine.

1644
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 8: So like, there's zero judgment here coming from me. But

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01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 8: the thing is, there is a big difference between you know,

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01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 8: fostering a reasonable tolerance for families and that kids are

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01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 8: gonna cry and they're gonna be loud sometimes versus just

1648
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 8: embracing and endorsing absolute chaos and disruption mixed places. We're

1649
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 8: talking restaurants, movie theaters, churches. Kids should absolutely be on

1650
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 8: their best behavior. And if I totally agree with Walsh.

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01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 8: If they're not, you remove them. And by the way,

1652
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 8: we have a whole deal with our kids. It's like,

1653
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 8: if you guys don't shape up, you get a warning,

1654
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 8: we'll just leave and yeah it's embarrassing for the whole family.

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01:19:58,439 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 3: We'll leave.

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01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,919
Speaker 8: We'll say, sorry, gotta go. Our kids are our monsters

1657
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 8: right now, and we gotta leave.

1658
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 3: So I think.

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01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 8: And by the way, once you do that once or twice,

1660
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 8: the kids figure it out and they stop acting up.

1661
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 8: And as soon as you give them that warning, they'll

1662
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 8: they'll usually simmer down.

1663
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 3: And this is the other thing.

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01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 8: This is I'm all about having like context for kids

1665
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 8: to participate in church life and in the mix, not

1666
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 8: just in kids church or childcare whatever. But it's like,

1667
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 8: you know, they they have to be respectful and then

1668
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 8: if they don't prove that they can be respectful again,

1669
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 8: you remove them. So yeah, I think this is just

1670
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 8: like this feels like a woke liberal church that French

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01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 8: would go to.

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01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if it is a woke liberal church

1673
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 3: or not. I don't know.

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01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 5: I think that I think you would commonly see this

1675
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 5: in I think it's a way of saying like, oh,

1676
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 5: we're pro family we're pro like, it's kind of aligns

1677
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 5: with pro life stuff to be like super pro baby

1678
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 5: in all contexts. I think it's probably a misguided impulse

1679
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 5: over That's what I'm saying. I don't think it's a

1680
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 5: big deal either way. I think one that is interesting

1681
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 5: is there's probably an aspect of maybe low church versus high.

1682
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 3: Church there or something.

1683
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like there should generally be a degree of solemnity

1684
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 5: to a lot of religious services.

1685
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're just.

1686
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,799
Speaker 5: Letting a kid scream to get stop, it does disrupt solemnity.

1687
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 5: There should be an element of the sacred This is

1688
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 5: what I think.

1689
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 8: If you don't care about young kids disrupting your church service,

1690
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 8: you don't have a high regard for what your pastor's

1691
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 8: preaching or the Word of God or the homily or whatever.

1692
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would so put it another way.

1693
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 5: It's, for example, would you want a kid screaming as

1694
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 5: a lot as possible during a wedding, during a funeral.

1695
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 3: During your favorite movie.

1696
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 5: And for a lot of parishes you should review, you

1697
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 5: should view a weekly religious service. I mean certainly, if

1698
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 5: you're a Catholic at a mass, an Orthodox set a mass,

1699
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 5: you should see that as similarly sacred actually to a

1700
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 5: funeral or a wedding.

1701
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 3: I agree, Jack, you were about to chime in, No,

1702
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 3: of course, I was just gonna say.

1703
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about in and when you

1704
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: go to Latin mask, it's.

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01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 4: I mean, you see so many kids there because it's

1706
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 4: there's so many young couples these days, and you know,

1707
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 4: kids are all over the place.

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01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: However, when church starts, they stay in the back.

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01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 4: If they're you know, below a certain age, if they're

1710
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 4: below the age of being able to control themselves, then.

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01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 8: They hang out and back with mom and there's you know,

1712
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 8: it's just totally it's totally magical. It's common sense. Fas

1713
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 8: says should be more sacred than a movie theater. That's

1714
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 8: my point. Most of these people that process letter would

1715
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 8: get more upset if these young kids were loud during

1716
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 8: their their trip to the movies and a date night,

1717
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 8: then they would if they interrupted their church service.

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01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably, Blake. I don't know, I don't have any kids.

1719
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't have a super strong investment in this.

1720
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: Blake is really loud during movies, though.

1721
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 4: I remember, whenever I'm in town and there's a new

1722
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 4: Tyler Perry out, Blake is always demanding that we go

1723
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 4: see it, especially the media series. He's never missed a

1724
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 4: single one opening night, by the way, and he's just

1725
01:22:58,720 --> 01:22:59,839
Speaker 4: you know that's not true.

1726
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 5: Because you know, I make sure to never travel when

1727
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 5: there's a new media movie coming out.

1728
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: That's an interesting I'm in town.

1729
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 3: When I'm in town, I would never let you.

1730
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 5: I would never I wouldn't want to be hosting you

1731
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 5: when I could be going to a media movie.

1732
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 3: Don't go in there, don't go in thew and open

1733
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 3: that door.

1734
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: Blake, you're excited for Scary Movie six too, right, they're.

1735
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 3: Up to six of them. I can't believe those are

1736
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 3: still going. I'm completely we have some wait, scary movies.

1737
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 3: We have something terrifying.

1738
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: I think this.

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Speaker 8: Here's the poster for Scary Movie six. The Strong Cell

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Speaker 8: is fully kicked strop Cell dot Com ninety day risky

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Speaker 8: money back guarantee, You too could have Blake as good

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01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 8: or as hair as good as Blake.

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01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

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01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny if you throw back to that clip

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01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 8: of you with Charlie and how like just everything was shaved.

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01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 3: Like you look like a newborn in that cliff.

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01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,959
Speaker 5: That's why I'm not allowed to scream stream that looks.

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01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: Like the baby was it? You get screaming inserted A.

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Speaker 3: I could make this happen. You guys are weird. Well

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Speaker 3: that was fun.

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01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: Baby baby stand up comic. And he's it was it

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01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: was hilarious.

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01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 3: He's like, he's like, so, what's the deal with breastfeeding? Huh?

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01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: My food comes from my mom. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: All right, Before before we go here, Jack, we have

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01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 3: to I'm just waiting. Are we sure?

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01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 8: I'm getting it's typing. I'm gonna say something. I just

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Speaker 8: want to make his personal information.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, stand stand by.

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Speaker 8: Waiting, waiting, never mind, stand by. I'll do the second

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Speaker 8: part of this. Don't forget Daylight savings. It's happening.

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Speaker 3: I want to forget.

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01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, it's not changing.

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Speaker 3: Luckily we get to forget it. We don't have to change. Yeah,

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01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 3: but only then it's to change the time to show

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Speaker 3: our shows an hour earlier.

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Speaker 8: Which stinks, by the way, super lame and our earlier

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01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 8: does does kind of stink for us.

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Speaker 4: Sinfold Wait wait, wait, you have you have to explain

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01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 4: this for people who don't understand that outside of you, guys,

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Speaker 4: it's affect you guys get affected by daily savings way

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01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 4: more than everybody else, because in a way, your time

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01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 4: doesn't change, but your relationship to.

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Speaker 1: The rest of the country changes because Arizona doesn't have

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Speaker 1: real so.

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Speaker 6: We also don't get as much light like at night.

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Speaker 6: It's terrible.

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Speaker 8: Hold okay, hold on, go back to the go back

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Speaker 8: to the Blake fro six fifty. So Kaboose just goes.

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01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 8: Blake looks like he's about to kneel for the national anthem.

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01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 8: It's so true.

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Speaker 3: I think you are the same the same as him.

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01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 3: By the way, I think my.

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Speaker 5: Friend may have literally just done a Colin Kaepernick me

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Speaker 5: mash up.

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Speaker 3: There is that?

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Speaker 2: What that is?

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Speaker 8: That's literally alright? You have the exact all right. Uh,

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Speaker 8: And we have a big family business announcement. Our boy Russ,

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Speaker 8: who works on human events and also on this show.

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Speaker 8: So it's one of Jack's producers has gotten engaged.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go. Congratulations to Russ.

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Speaker 8: You are joining the club of the well almost joining

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01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 8: the club. Danny's next, hopefully maybe, and then Blake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 8: Send your emails Freedom at Charliekirk dot com if you

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Speaker 8: are there. It is congratulations to our guy Russ.

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Speaker 3: This has been. He's been planning this. He was gonna

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01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: come into work today and I was like, no, you can't.

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Speaker 3: And you know, anyways, So that's Russ one of Jack's producers.

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Speaker 1: Also, he also just became a homeowner, I believe.

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Speaker 3: In the last let's go checking off the boxes, dream.

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01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 4: Total total life upgrade for him. Houses swank by the way,

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01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 4: he's got to see some of the pictures. Haven't gone

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Speaker 4: and visit myself. But Rusty, great guy, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: I said, just make sure make sure she's not a spy, bro,

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01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 4: just make sure she's not a five.

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01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: Because you know, you know, that's what's what always happens

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Speaker 1: around us. What can I say?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hopefully she's been properly vetted. So well, there

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Speaker 3: you go.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: What a good note to end on, you know, crying babies.

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Speaker 8: Russ is gonna have some soon church wait in church probably,

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01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 8: and strong cell is working to great effect.

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01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 3: All right, Jack, you want to take us out.

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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit

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Speaker 4: more thought crime.

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Speaker 6: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 6: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.