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Speaker 1: The voice of free speech, the truth delivered common sense

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Speaker 1: for the American people.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show.

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Speaker 3: Democrats get their Nazi in Maine. We'll discuss Platner's nomination

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Speaker 3: for the US Senate as scandals swirl around this troubled candidate.

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Speaker 3: Seems like the ceasefire where Iran maybe off. Trump says

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Speaker 3: the regime has waited too long to make a deal,

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Speaker 3: and the US carries out airstrikes to retaliate for a

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Speaker 3: downed Apache helicopter. And teenager Carmelo Anthony was found guilty

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Speaker 3: of murder in Texas. Legal analyst Danny Savalos is back

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Speaker 3: today to break down the verdict and the sentence in

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Speaker 3: this terrible case.

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Speaker 4: Today is Wednesday, June the tenth.

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Speaker 3: I'm Scott Jennings reporting for Salem and we are broadcasting

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Speaker 3: live today from your nation's capital. On this day, seventeen

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Speaker 3: fifty two, Benjamin Frank, one of our nations founding fathers,

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Speaker 3: flew a kite during a thunderstorm, collecting ambient electrical charge

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Speaker 3: into a Leyden jar and proving the connection between lightning

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Speaker 3: and electricity. And he also gave rise to the phrase

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Speaker 3: catching lightning in a bottle.

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Speaker 4: As for today's news.

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Speaker 3: Democrats think they've got lightning in a bottle in Maine,

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Speaker 3: but they may be in for a shock come November.

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Speaker 3: Grand Platner, the fake oyster farmer with a Nazi tattoo,

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Speaker 3: the self described communist, emerged from the formality of the

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Speaker 3: Democratic Party primary last night and is now slated to

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Speaker 3: take on incumbent Republican Senator Susan Collins. Let's hear from

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Speaker 3: Platner and my reaction to his speech, all of it

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Speaker 3: last night on CNN Cut twelve.

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Speaker 5: They keep looking for that one story, that one headline,

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Speaker 5: that one moment in my life that they can define

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Speaker 5: the campaign by. But in trying so hard to understand me,

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Speaker 5: they failed to understand that this is not about me

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Speaker 5: at all.

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Speaker 2: Because when you're as damaged as this guy, I guess

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Speaker 2: I would also say it's not really about me, because

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Speaker 2: if it's about him, they're in real trouble. It's sort

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Speaker 2: of makes me laugh. They're looking for one story. They

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Speaker 2: were looking for one, and they found like twenty. But

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Speaker 2: let's just start with the tattoo. Democrats have spent ten

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Speaker 2: years here and everywhere else calling every Republican from Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump on down a Nazi, a Nazi sympathizer, and a fascist,

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Speaker 2: And tonight the Democratic Party sent a message, you know what,

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Speaker 2: Nazi tattoo perfectly fine with us. That is what they

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Speaker 2: are now saddled with. The campaign is about him. There

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Speaker 2: is not one story.

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Speaker 3: There is a troubling list of behavioral issues on this guy.

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Speaker 1: His entire narrative is a lie. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: be able to take the focus on it. On the

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Speaker 1: tattoo though.

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Speaker 6: The difference he and Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Is is that he hasn't actually a Trump doesn't.

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Speaker 7: But I think the problem that he had, I think

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Speaker 7: it's why a lot of women behind him tonight.

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Speaker 1: The problem was.

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Speaker 2: I think they were behind of that.

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Speaker 3: Platner has a long list of problems. He's been credibly

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Speaker 3: accused of abusing women. He says he masturbates in public

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Speaker 3: porta potties. He denigrates American military veterans. He says he

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Speaker 3: wants to rate men to show them that he is

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Speaker 3: dominant over them. This guy is a mad libs of

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Speaker 3: troubling behavior. And while Platner speaks often of his redemption,

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Speaker 3: he also said this today on MSNBC Cut eleven.

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Speaker 2: I say there's nothing out there that could be concerning.

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Speaker 1: And this may seem a little bit rich.

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Speaker 5: Clear there's there's nothing out there that's actually concerning. People

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Speaker 5: will make everything seem very concerning because that's one of

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Speaker 3: If Platner isn't troubled by any of his own behavior,

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Speaker 3: it makes you wonder what would he have to do, dude,

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Speaker 3: to finally look in the.

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Speaker 4: Mirror and say, whoa buddy? Rein it in?

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Speaker 3: But Democrats appear to be all in on the oyster

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Speaker 3: groping fure, looking past his Nazi tattoo and his treatment

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Speaker 3: of women, despite their years long attacks on Republicans as

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Speaker 3: Nazis who hate women. Somewhere, Eric Swalwell and al Franken

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Speaker 3: are on a text chain exchanging wtfs with each other.

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Speaker 3: It's important to remember that there are things we know

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Speaker 3: about Platiner today, and there are things we are likely

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Speaker 3: the feeling, just a hunch that despite mister Platner's belief

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Speaker 3: Maine will not be of the same opinion before the

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Speaker 3: end of this campaign. Even still, could Platner win, of course,

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Speaker 3: Democrats will pull out all the stops for him, marching

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Speaker 3: down off of any moral high ground they ever held

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Speaker 3: in the pursuit of political power and radical agenda. Elsewhere

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Speaker 3: in politics, South Carolina held a primary last night.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with governor.

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Speaker 3: Republican sent Lieutenant Governor Pamela Yvette and Attorney General Alan

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Speaker 3: Wilson onto a runoff in a couple of weeks. Eliminated

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Speaker 3: there Nancy Mace and Ralph Norman, two members of Congress

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Speaker 3: this year. And in the South Carolina Senate primary, Lindsey Graham,

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Speaker 3: the incumbent, did win the GOP nomination. He had Trump's backing,

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Speaker 3: but he faced a strong challenge cut fifteen.

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Speaker 4: So everybody in America cares about conservative judges.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Lendsey Graham are going to deliver for

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Speaker 1: you in twenty seven. At twenty eight, big time.

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Speaker 3: Next round of primaries coming up on Tuesday. We'll see

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Speaker 3: runoffs in Alabama and Georgia. Plus we have races in Oklahoma. Overseas,

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Speaker 3: feels like the ceasefire in Iran has ceased to exist.

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Speaker 3: Iran used a drone to take down a US of

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Speaker 3: several hours of air strikes. This morning, in the Oval Office,

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Speaker 3: the President was asked about the renewed hostilities. Cut seventeen.

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Speaker 6: They didn't shoot long, gets revealed. I want I sure

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Speaker 6: you correctly.

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Speaker 8: You said that now it will have to pay the price.

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Speaker 1: Why, well, we're going to be attacking.

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Speaker 9: Then we're attacking them very hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, if we are based on the helicopter, I

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Speaker 3: Also this morning, the President has posted on truth social

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Speaker 3: that Iran has waited too long to make a deal

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Speaker 3: and we'll now pay the price. Here's more of the

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Speaker 10: We hit them hard yesterday and we're going to hit

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Speaker 10: them again hard today.

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Speaker 11: In case you had misification, you don't turn on your television, said,

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Speaker 11: and we'll see what happens with the deal.

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Speaker 2: We're really close to a deal, but they keep tapping

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Speaker 3: With the resumption of hostilities, Iran has lashed out at

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Speaker 3: its neighbors, attacking US installations in Jordan, Bahrain, and Kuwait.

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Speaker 3: on Iran throughout the show. President was in the Oval

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Speaker 3: Early this morning, the President issued a truth social about

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Saiah. Jonathan, you've seen the news, You've seen the

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Speaker 11: So here we're in this state of back and forth

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Speaker 9: But this new wave of escalation is different.

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Speaker 9: And the key term here is when the attack Israel

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Speaker 11: Was the first time the regime preemptively attacked Israel. That's

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Speaker 9: What we've seen so far is that.

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Speaker 11: Israelis or the Americans to an extent, I take out

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Speaker 9: Infant structure of the regime.

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Speaker 11: That a force serves to further legitimize that their military assets.

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Speaker 4: Here's my question. We're dealing with the Iranians here.

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Speaker 3: We've had the presidents say numerous times he thought we

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Speaker 4: Then they attack our Apache helicopter.

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Speaker 3: Of course, they've also been attacking Israel that you know,

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Speaker 4: Facilities as well.

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Speaker 3: The blockade of the United States is still out there,

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Speaker 4: How much punishment are they willing.

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Speaker 9: Simply look at the retaliation they've had. It is simply

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Speaker 11: Of course that you can nominate situation you on is

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Speaker 9: So the key term here is not necessarily inflation. It's

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Speaker 11: It's depriving regime officials of cash flow to the point

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Speaker 9: So once you can do to exploit that.

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Speaker 10: And the question there is can we get regime change

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Speaker 3: Do you think that there are still diplomatic talks going

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Speaker 9: Communication is always ongoing.

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Speaker 11: It's a matter of whether the other side is negotiating

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Speaker 11: And of course the intense military strikes that they're suffering

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Speaker 9: And that has been a key Trump doctrine.

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Speaker 11: Now going back to Lebanon, which is important that he

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Speaker 4: YEA, yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: We cannot allow these ongoing attacks, but that has to

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Speaker 3: Israel needs it to stop. Jonathan Saya from FDD, thanks

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Speaker 3: Last week, Congressman, welcome to the show. The House Armed

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Speaker 3: This is the critical funding package that funds our military,

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Speaker 13: Well, Scott, hey, thanks for having me. Look the National

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Speaker 13: We are doing that, we are making those strategic investments.

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Speaker 3: So we've got your version in the House Armed Services Committee,

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Speaker 3: And you believe you ultimately bipartisan support, you'll get it

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Speaker 4: To call it right to repair. Tell us about that.

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Speaker 4: Why is that important?

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Speaker 13: Well, this is something that you probably couldn't put together

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Speaker 13: We are working together to get right to repair across

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Speaker 13: the finish line, and we were able to do that

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Speaker 13: in the House. What right to repair is as it says, Look,

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Speaker 13: if the military has purchased the equipment, it has to

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Speaker 13: have the ability to sustain and maintain that equipment, even

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Speaker 13: if the contractor fails in their obligations to sustain that

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Speaker 13: equipment for the original contracts. We have in many instances

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Speaker 13: up to forty percent of our military hardware that is

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Speaker 13: actually not usable due to flawed sustainment contracts that the

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Speaker 13: Pentagon just can no longer enter into. And so what

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Speaker 13: right to repair really does is it changes the contracting structures,

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Speaker 13: and it says look, private sector guys, we love you.

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Speaker 13: You're the backbone of everything that we do in the military,

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Speaker 13: but you're no longer going to take advantage of the

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Speaker 13: US military when it comes to sustainment contracts that don't

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Speaker 13: allow the military to actually pair of the equipment that

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Speaker 13: it has purchased from you, particularly when you fail in

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Speaker 13: maintaining that equipment for the contractual standard that you're obligated to.

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Speaker 13: This is actually something that should save the Pentagon tens

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Speaker 13: of billions of dollars over the next ten years and

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Speaker 13: is something that should and certainly does have bipartisan support on.

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Speaker 3: See, just when you think that bipartisanship is dead in Washington,

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Speaker 3: Pat Harrigan from North Carolina comes along to give us

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Speaker 3: a little feel good story about it. I mean, those

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Speaker 3: are those are very different members, but it's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's I think for the average American, these are not

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Speaker 3: the kinds of things that are on the front page

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Speaker 3: of the New York Times, and they're not being covered,

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Speaker 3: you know, on the cable news networks. But it's good

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Speaker 3: to hear from you that you have Democrats and Republicans

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Speaker 3: working together on key military issues saving tax payer money.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's a it's a good thing. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I know you're a freshman member of the House,

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Speaker 3: and I'd love to hear about how your experience has

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Speaker 3: gone so far. But is this one of the most

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Speaker 3: frustrating things for you about being in Congress? You know

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Speaker 3: that there are sort of my partisan conversations going on.

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Speaker 3: You know that there's a little bit more collegiality and

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Speaker 3: cooperation up there than maybe covered. Does it frustrate you

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Speaker 3: that this is not the kind of stuff that gets

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Speaker 3: most of the attention in Washington when it comes to

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Speaker 3: policy making.

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Speaker 13: You know, I think that there's always room to work

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Speaker 13: with the other side when you can get to a

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Speaker 13: place of principled compromise.

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Speaker 6: I think what far often.

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Speaker 13: We see today, scott As, we see compromise devoid of principle,

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Speaker 13: and that is actually what we all have to fight, right.

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Speaker 13: I mean, if you look back, our founding fathers presupposed

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Speaker 13: that we'd always have very broad disagreements to the solutions.

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Speaker 6: To our problems up here in Washington.

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Speaker 7: D C.

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Speaker 13: But they did presuppose that we would approach the problems

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Speaker 13: from the same set of values and principles.

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Speaker 6: We don't share.

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Speaker 13: Those anymore, and so when you try to jam home

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Speaker 13: what Article one really requires, which is consensus in order

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Speaker 13: to get anything done, which you don't have an approach

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Speaker 13: from the same value set or principle set. You actually

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Speaker 13: fundamentally don't agree on the nation's problems anymore, which is

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Speaker 13: why this gets a lot of attention. The log caam

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Speaker 13: the outcomes, the very negative outcomes that come from seemingly

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Speaker 13: having all these different problems that everybody already knows the

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Speaker 13: answer to, but we can't get the solutions across the

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Speaker 13: finish line because we're disagreeing about the problems.

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Speaker 6: Like I get why people are focused on that. I

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Speaker 6: don't think most people know why.

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Speaker 3: How has it been working with a Secretary Hegseth and

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Speaker 3: his staff over at the Department of War. I assume

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Speaker 3: you're in regular contact with them as this NDAA process

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Speaker 3: has gone along.

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Speaker 6: It's been great to watch Pete grow into the job.

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Speaker 13: I mean, look, you know, most of the time, what

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Speaker 13: you're going to see in the Secretary of Defense Secretary

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Speaker 13: of War position is you're going to see a gray hair.

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Speaker 6: We don't have that.

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Speaker 13: We needed demonstrable change in the Pentagon. What we've been

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Speaker 13: doing for a long time, picking from the political class

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Speaker 13: and moving them over across the river to lead our

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Speaker 13: nation's military has not worked. It has not generated good

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Speaker 13: outcomes for the United States of America, and it generated

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Speaker 13: a decrepit culture that's quite frankly, not capable of achieving

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Speaker 13: the strategic objectives that we need to achieve. I think

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Speaker 13: Pete's given it a great injection of fresh air. I

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Speaker 13: actually just caught up with him in Singapore last week

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Speaker 13: for the Shangri Law Defense Conference, where I got to

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Speaker 13: tell you he represented our country incredibly well. He's grown

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Speaker 13: into the little role. He's doing a good job. He

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Speaker 13: has a command of the issues, and he has the

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Speaker 13: respect of his counterparts abroad. And I think that is

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Speaker 13: something that is missed by our nations media far too often.

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Speaker 3: And Voischer hearing Congressman Pat Harrigan of North Carolina. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at a news story here, Pat. It says

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Speaker 3: here that last summer you closed out the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five Congressional baseball Game as a pitcher for the Republicans.

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Speaker 3: You entered in the final inning to secure the Republicans

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Speaker 3: thirteen to two victory, striking out Democrat Senator Ruben Diego

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Speaker 3: to end the contest. The Congressional Baseball Game is happening tonight.

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Speaker 3: I know you're back on the Republican squad. I heard

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Speaker 3: you might have injured your shoulder, so I don't guess

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Speaker 3: you're pitching tonight, but you will be doing Are you

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Speaker 3: the designated hit or is that what's happening tonight?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. I'm still hitting.

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Speaker 13: I'm not throwing tonight, but I'm looking forward to hitting

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Speaker 13: the ball far at least that's the goal. Every three

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Speaker 13: year you get a little bit older, it seems a

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Speaker 13: little bit less far. But nonetheless, we're out there to

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Speaker 13: have a great time. I think we've already sold thirty

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Speaker 13: five thousand tickets to this game, which is incredible.

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Speaker 6: It's at Nats Stadium well, and we've raised.

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Speaker 13: Over three million dollars for charity, which is really the

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Speaker 13: intent of what we're trying to do here. It's a

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Speaker 13: fantastic event. Tune in if you're watching from home, or

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Speaker 13: if not, you're in DC, come out to the game.

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Speaker 13: It's going to be a great time.

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Speaker 3: And the Republicans have won. Is it five in a

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Speaker 3: row over the Democrats?

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 7: A row?

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Speaker 6: Going for six?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, going for six tonight.

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Speaker 3: And I met a few months ago who someone I

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Speaker 3: assume will be on the Republican squad next year, Mark

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Speaker 3: Teschera of Texas, former Major League or former New York Yankee.

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Speaker 3: And so if the Democrats are going to try to

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Speaker 3: get back in the win column, they better try to

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Speaker 3: do it this year because when we add text to

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Speaker 3: the lineup for the Republicans next year is going to

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Speaker 3: get that much harder. But already the Republican lineup is

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Speaker 3: kind of stacked.

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Speaker 4: Already.

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Speaker 3: You played at Georgetown, right, you got several college baseball

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Speaker 3: players in the lineup.

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Speaker 6: Oh I did not play at Georgetown. That got reported.

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Speaker 4: Oh you didn't.

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Speaker 8: It is yesterday.

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Speaker 6: We were like, where did they get that?

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Speaker 3: That's where I'm reading it. I'm reading it. Listen, if

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Speaker 3: I if I say that you, if I say that

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Speaker 3: you played Division one college baseball, you know you should

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Speaker 3: do just nod and say, yeah, that was a fun

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Speaker 3: part of my life.

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Speaker 13: Now I'll let my work speak for itself out on

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Speaker 13: the ball field tonight. I'll tell you what I'm super

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Speaker 13: excited to have to share on the team. That guy

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Speaker 13: hit thirteen home runs in that stadium during his career.

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Speaker 13: Just visiting here. Yep, we do have a stacked team.

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Speaker 13: We're going to have an even better stacked team next year.

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Speaker 14: Here.

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Speaker 13: Things are looking great for Republicans, but we're going to

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Speaker 13: try to keep this momentum movement in this game, all right.

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Speaker 3: Congressman Pat Harrigan is from North Carolina, was a Green

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Speaker 3: Beret and served our country. Was not a Division one

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Speaker 3: college baseball player, but is the designated hitter for the

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Speaker 3: Republicans tonight in the congressional baseball game here in Washington, DC. Pat,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for coming on the show. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for working on these national security issues. I didn't get

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Speaker 3: to ask you about the FAISA extension, but obviously the

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Speaker 3: President and the congressional leaders are working on that. Just

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Speaker 3: ten seconds would be a disaster for this to go

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Speaker 3: dark on Friday.

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Speaker 13: Correct, well, FISA can't go dark, but we also cannot

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Speaker 13: invade the privacy of Americans the way that we've been

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Speaker 13: invading it since the post nine eleven one era. We

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Speaker 13: went too far on the security side. We need to

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Speaker 13: rebalance that with freedom. That's what we're hoping to do

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Speaker 13: this week. We'll see if it happens, but Scott, thank

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Speaker 13: you for having me.

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Speaker 4: Pat Harrigan, great conversation. We're taking a break. We'll be

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Speaker 4: back with more on the Scott Jennings Show right after

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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm standing tall against the leftist. Mom. Here's Scott Jenny's.

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Speaker 4: We got to talk about this. Stephen A.

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Speaker 3: Smith back and forth with President Trump in just a second.

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Speaker 3: But first, if you or someone that you love is

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Speaker 3: on Medicare, you know that it is designed to be confusing.

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Speaker 3: It is a mess of mailers and robo calls and

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Speaker 3: half truths. And because of this myth myth not myth mess.

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Speaker 3: Because of this mess, I am partnering with a company

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Speaker 3: called Chapter. Chapter cuts through the Medicare mess. They cut

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Speaker 3: through the noise. I know that it works because my

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Speaker 3: parents just went through their consultation. They are of Medicare age.

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Speaker 3: The results speak for themselves. My mom can save six

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars a year on her plan G and my dad.

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Speaker 3: They determined min is interesting. They determined my dad was

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Speaker 3: on the right plan. But what had happened is my

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Speaker 3: dad had moved and he needed a new primary care physician.

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Speaker 3: They acted like a concierge. They found him a new doctor.

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Speaker 3: Chapter is advocating for you. They're coming up with the

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Speaker 3: solution that's right for you. They're not advocating for the

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Speaker 3: insurance companies, and that's what you need to know here.

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Speaker 3: They don't work for the insurance companies. They work only

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Speaker 3: for you. It's a free call. You dial pound two fifty.

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Speaker 3: You get a live person. You just say Medicare plan

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Speaker 3: when you dial it. There's no pressure. You talk to

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Speaker 3: a live person, you go through the consultation. It takes

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Speaker 3: like twenty minutes. If you're on the right plan, they'll

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Speaker 3: tell you. If they're not, they'll tell you and they'll

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Speaker 3: help you find the right plan that will save you money.

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Speaker 3: It's called Chapter Dial pound two fifty, say Medicare plan,

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Speaker 3: free call, no pressure, real human being.

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Speaker 4: You will not regret it. All right, let's talk about

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Speaker 4: I got it. Here's what I think.

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Speaker 3: It's not been that long ago in American politics that

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Speaker 3: a political party, reeling after the loss of a presidential

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Speaker 3: campaign they thought they should have won, decided to look

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Speaker 3: outside their usual political ranks and nominate someone for president

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Speaker 3: who was from the world of entertainment, who had a

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Speaker 3: built in pre existing audience, who had a knack for

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Speaker 3: knowing how to work media cycles. Of course, I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about what the Republicans did nominating Donald Trump in twenty sixteen. Now,

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Speaker 3: there is a Democrat entertainer type named Steven A.

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Speaker 4: Smith from the world of sports. You may have heard

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Speaker 4: of him.

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Speaker 3: He's got a show and he also does commentary on ESPN.

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Speaker 3: He's sort of ubiquitous presence in NBA coverage.

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Speaker 4: Anyway. He's been in the news this week.

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Speaker 3: Because when President Trump went to Madison Square Garden the

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Speaker 3: other night for Game three of the NBA Finals, Steven

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Speaker 3: and they lost.

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Speaker 4: The Knicks lost. Steven A.

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Speaker 3: Smith comes out and blames the loss on Donald Trump. There,

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Speaker 3: he blamed Donald Trump. So that started it, and then

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden the President caught win to this

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Speaker 3: and got involved. Let's hear the President's retort, cut six.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a nice guy, but you need a

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Speaker 1: certain aptitude. They're un for president. You need a high IQ.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Steven has said. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he does.

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Speaker 3: Actually, this was the greatest thing that could have happened

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Speaker 3: for Steven A. Smith, getting in a public back and

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Speaker 3: forth with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: So Stephen A.

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Speaker 3: Smith was on the Laura Coates CNN show last night.

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Speaker 3: I was there for this, and he said, oh, really, well,

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Speaker 3: maybe we should debate. Here's steven A and cut seven.

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Speaker 15: But if he really really wants to get down to

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Speaker 15: the nitty gritty and really want to challenge me about

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Speaker 15: my IQ, I welcome to sit down with him. I

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Speaker 15: welcome him on the debate stage. You know, you're the

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Speaker 15: president of the United States. You've joked around about circumventing

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Speaker 15: the twenty second Amendment and running for a third term. Well,

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Speaker 15: if you can pull off those strings, particularly the pull

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Speaker 15: that you've got with the FCC or anything like that,

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Speaker 15: why don't you find a way to allow me to

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Speaker 15: keep my money and my job at ESPN and Serious

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Speaker 15: XM and still walk on that debate stage. I will

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Speaker 15: be happy to show up against President Trump. Since you

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Speaker 15: think that my IQ is questionable, you want to find out,

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Speaker 15: want some, come get some.

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Speaker 4: I'll show up, all right.

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Speaker 3: What he is referencing is, you know, there's been some

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Speaker 3: discussion that Steven A might be wanting to run for president,

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Speaker 3: and a few weeks ago he sort of determined that

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Speaker 3: he would have to give up his broadcasting job in

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Speaker 3: order to run for the office.

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Speaker 4: But you can tell he still has the itch.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yesterday he was doing a sports show standing

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Speaker 3: in front of a giant American flag like this one.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, this is a guy who

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Speaker 3: loves politics. He wants to be in politics. He's worried

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Speaker 3: about giving up his end, which is massive. He does

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Speaker 3: very well. But I got to tell you, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: discount someone like Steven A. Smith, or even Steven A

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Speaker 3: Smith himself from being possibly impactful in a presidential campaign.

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Speaker 3: People are looking for different kinds of folks right now,

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Speaker 3: not platiner types. I'm not manufactured Nazis. I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: interesting people and coming from the world of entertainment, Trump

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Speaker 3: proved it. You bring in that pre existing audience, you

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Speaker 3: can you can make some noise in politics right now,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't I wouldn't discount Stephen a smart guy. We'll take

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Speaker 3: a break more news after this. It's Scott Jennings common

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Speaker 3: sense for the American people.

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Speaker 4: Stay with us, all right.

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Speaker 3: We start with a quick check of the headlines here

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Speaker 3: on Wednesday, June tenth.

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Speaker 4: This just in.

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Speaker 3: President Trump says Iran will pay the price for not

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Speaker 3: reaching a piece deal. The president foreshadowing more air strikes.

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Speaker 3: Some were already carried out last night in retaliation for

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Speaker 3: that attack on the Apache helic And this also just

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Speaker 3: coming across the desk here, I'm going to read it

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Speaker 3: to you. President Trump has issued the following statement. Last month,

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Speaker 3: I directed our great US military to execute a secret

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Speaker 3: mission to support oil tankers and other commercial ships through

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Speaker 3: the Strait of Hormuz. Today, I am pleased to announce

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Speaker 3: this effort has resulted in more than one hundred million

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Speaker 3: barrels of oil making its way through the strait and

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Speaker 3: into the open market. More than two hundred commercial ships

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Speaker 3: have safely traveled through the strait. This wildly successful effort

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Speaker 3: is because the United States of America controls the Strait

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Speaker 3: of Hormuz, not Iran. Their military is defeated and their

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Speaker 3: economy is lost. It's over for Iran. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: your attention to this matter, Signed President Trump. President may

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Speaker 3: be responding to some news about inflation. It has hit

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Speaker 3: its highest level in three years in May, rising to

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Speaker 3: four point two percent, as turmoil in Iran pushed up

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Speaker 3: the cost of gasoline and trainransportation. This increase was largely

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Speaker 3: in line with expectations, but it could keep the Fed

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Speaker 3: from cutting interest rates anytime soon. We'll have to see

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Speaker 3: how the new FED chair, Kevin Warsh handles that and

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Speaker 3: how voters digest all of this.

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Speaker 4: Later this year, federal.

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Speaker 3: Prosecutors have indicted eight people linked to the University of Michigan,

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Speaker 3: accusing them of carrying out a terrorism campaign of threats

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Speaker 3: and vandalism aimed at forcing the school to cut ties

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Speaker 3: with Israel. Federal prosecutors say the group targeted university leaders,

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Speaker 3: local businesses, law enforcement, and the Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Detroit,

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Speaker 3: using intimidation tactics that included graffiti, threatening messages, and symbolic displays.

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Speaker 3: Justice Department says the alleged conspiracies sought to terrorize victims

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Speaker 3: into compliance, adding that quote America is governed by the

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Speaker 3: rule of law, not fear now. Six of these suspects

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Speaker 3: have already appeared in federal court, one was arrested in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: and another remains at large. Just after we went off

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Speaker 3: the air yesterday, the Carmelo Anthony trial came to an

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Speaker 3: end and Texas and the teenager was convicted of murder

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Speaker 3: and the stabbing death of Austin Metcalf took place at

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Speaker 3: a high school track meet last April. Here to discuss this,

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Speaker 3: NBC News legal analyst Danny Savalos. Danny, you've been tracking

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Speaker 3: this trial. We were speaking yesterday as the jury deliberated,

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Speaker 3: give us your reaction. Just seconds after we ended our conversation,

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Speaker 3: the guilty verdict came back.

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Speaker 4: What did you think.

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Speaker 16: Exactly, Scott? And I was I can't say I was

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Speaker 16: surprised at all. This is exactly what I expected, and

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Speaker 16: I think I communicated that yesterday. But I don't think

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Speaker 16: that makes me very much of a soothsayer or a wizard,

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Speaker 16: because the reality was this was always a hopeless case

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Speaker 16: for the defense. It's actually the real question for me

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Speaker 16: is why did it even go to trial? This should

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Speaker 16: have been a plea agreement. And I suspect that had

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Speaker 16: they explored that opportunity on the defense, they might have

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Speaker 16: done better than the ultimate sentence in this case. But

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Speaker 16: oftentimes the decision to go to trial is the clients

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Speaker 16: and the clients alone, and I suspect, although I don't know,

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Speaker 16: that's probably why this case went to trial.

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Speaker 3: Did Carmelo Anthony, the teenager who did the stabbing here,

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Speaker 3: did he take the stand in his own defense or no,

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Speaker 3: he did not.

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Speaker 16: And you know a lot of people now can use

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Speaker 16: hindsight its twenty twenty vision, as we all know. But

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Speaker 16: in reality, that was probably the best choice for the defense.

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Speaker 16: And here's why, because in Texas, the prosecution has to

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Speaker 16: disprove self defense beyond a reasonable doubt. They have the

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Speaker 16: burden for that reason. If you have a seventeen year

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Speaker 16: old client who obviously has no experience testifying in his

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Speaker 16: own murder trial, going up against an experienced prosecutor where

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Speaker 16: the rules of evidence are skewed in favor of the

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Speaker 16: questioner not the witness, then there's just too much of

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Speaker 16: a risk to put Anthony on the stand. Maybe he

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Speaker 16: could have articulated some self defense, but it just wouldn't

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Speaker 16: have been consistent with so many of the other witnesses testimony,

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Speaker 16: and that would have looked terrible on cross examination. He

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Speaker 16: could have just denied what all these other witnesses said,

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Speaker 16: but it might have made him look even less credible.

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Speaker 16: So I think the risk averse wiser choice was to

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Speaker 16: not call him to the stand and rest on the

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Speaker 16: best thing that the defense had going for them, which

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Speaker 16: wasn't much, which was that the prosecution had to disprove

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Speaker 16: self defense.

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Speaker 3: All right, So the jury took just a few hours

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Speaker 3: to convict Carmelo Anthony of murder, and then they went

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Speaker 3: back in and started to consider the sentence and they

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Speaker 3: came out with a thirty five year prison sentence. In

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Speaker 3: this case, I have two questions. Number one, why wasn't

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Speaker 3: the death penalty on tap here for Carmelo Anthony? And

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Speaker 3: number two, tell us about this issue of sudden passion

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Speaker 3: that was considered during the jury deliberation.

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Speaker 16: So first, he was not ever going to get the

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Speaker 16: death penalty because he was a minor when the crime

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Speaker 16: was committed, and the Supreme Court has said you can't

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Speaker 16: send minors, you can't convict them and execute them if

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Speaker 16: they were miners at the time and the commission of

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Speaker 16: the crime. So the only thing ever on the table

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Speaker 16: was a sentence in the range of five to ninety

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Speaker 16: nine years for first degree felony. That's what Texas calls

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Speaker 16: their murder statute. So that's what was on the table,

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Speaker 16: five to ninety nine years. And I believe technically they

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Speaker 16: could have made it life as well. Now you ask

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Speaker 16: about passion. Now, a crime committed in the heat of

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Speaker 16: passion in Texas isn't a defense to the guilt phase

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Speaker 16: of the crime. In other words, it wasn't a defense

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Speaker 16: like self defense. It only comes into play during sentencing.

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Speaker 16: So in that sense, it's what we call mitigation, essentially

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Speaker 16: saying to the court, as you're thinking of my punishment,

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Speaker 16: here's a reason why I'm not as bad as you

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Speaker 16: think I am. So the passion aspect was something that

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Speaker 16: Anthony had to prove, and if he did prove passion,

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Speaker 16: it actually had quite a dramatic result. If he had

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Speaker 16: been able to do that, he would have had the burden.

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Speaker 16: So the burden shifts now. Now in sentencing, the defendant

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Speaker 16: has to establish passion and passion he is both a

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Speaker 16: subjective and an objective element. What I mean by that

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Speaker 16: is that it's not enough for Anthony for evidence that

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Speaker 16: Anthony said or believed that he was in an impassioned

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Speaker 16: state during this melee.

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Speaker 4: It had to be objective.

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Speaker 16: In fact, the statute says something to the effect of

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Speaker 16: a person of an ordinary temper, So with that tie

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Speaker 16: to reasonableness, it's a much harder bar to clear, but

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Speaker 16: the effect is dramatic. It would have dropped Anthony from

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Speaker 16: a sentencing place out of murder and into manslaughter. Even

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Speaker 16: though the jury rejected manslaugh, he had a shot of

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Speaker 16: getting sentenced from manslaughter and that would have put him

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Speaker 16: at I believe it was two to twenty or twenty

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Speaker 16: two years.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 16: The fact that I got a sentence of thirty five

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Speaker 16: years tells us that the jury rejected the passion argument

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Speaker 16: and sentenced him on the murder charge.

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Speaker 3: Talking to nbcors legal analyst Danny Savallos about this Carmelo

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Speaker 3: Anthony trial down in Texas, Anthony convicted of murdering Austin

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Speaker 3: Metcalf got thirty five years for this murder. We've seen

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Speaker 3: Danny a lot of interesting reactions and after the break

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Speaker 3: we're going to play some of those. But I want

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Speaker 3: to know what happens next. I assume there will be

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Speaker 3: appeals in this case. Can they appeal the verdict, the

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Speaker 3: guilty verdict, and can they also appeal the sentence? And

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Speaker 3: give us an idea of how that works in Texas?

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Speaker 16: Not only can they, they will and it's essentially automatic.

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Speaker 16: I mean, every single trial court in all parts of

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Speaker 16: the country provides for an appeal of all criminal convictions

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Speaker 16: after trial.

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Speaker 4: After your shot at the appeals court.

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Speaker 16: You don't absolutely have a shot at the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 16: but you can try, and I mean the Supreme Court

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Speaker 16: of whatever state you're in, so they absolutely will appeal.

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Speaker 16: But here's something you've probably heard a lot about Scott

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Speaker 16: that I do not think will be a major issue

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Speaker 16: on appeal, and it's this. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 16: reporting about how the jury had no black, no African

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Speaker 16: American members, and more than that. More than that, there

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Speaker 16: was what we call a bats In challenge during jury

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Speaker 16: selection where the prosecution excluded I believe it was three

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Speaker 16: prospective jurors and the defense objected.

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 16: Constitutionally, there is no requirement that a jury contain a

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Speaker 16: certain number of black, white, or any ethnicity or RaSE.

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Speaker 16: The only thing the constitution requires is that if you

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Speaker 16: use your peremptory challenges as a lawyer, these are freebee

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Speaker 16: challenges that we get a certain number of. But we

883
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Speaker 16: can excuse a juror for any reason. We don't have

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Speaker 16: to have a good reason. But the Supreme Court said,

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Speaker 16: no matter what reason for excluding someone, the only forbidden

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Speaker 16: reason is race, race, or ethnicity or one of those

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Speaker 16: protected categories. So when that happens, the problem with bats

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Speaker 16: and challenges, and I can talk about these all day

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Speaker 16: and make it very brief, the prosecution essentially said, well,

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Speaker 16: these witnesses have excuse me. These jurors, potential jurors have

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Speaker 16: some relation to the school district. They may have worked

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Speaker 16: for the school district. I don't know exactly what it was,

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Speaker 16: but if they can articulate a non racial reason for

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Speaker 16: excluding them and the court accepted it, then the mere

895
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Speaker 16: fact that the jury was had no black people on it.

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Speaker 16: And I believe that people from other races, just no

897
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Speaker 16: black people does not mean it is constitutionally infirmed.

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Speaker 3: Danny Savalos, legal analysts for NBC News. Danny, we appreciate

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Speaker 3: your coverage of this case for the Scott Jennings Show

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Speaker 3: over the last couple of days. I'll give you the

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Speaker 3: last word five seconds. Do you anticipate any of these

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Speaker 3: appeals changing anything?

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Speaker 12: I do not.

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Speaker 16: I can do it in three seconds.

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Speaker 3: Scott Jennings dannys one of the best legal analysts on television.

906
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Speaker 3: I encourage you to check him out. He's on NBC News. Danny,

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Speaker 3: thanks for coming by. We have to take a break.

908
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Speaker 3: We're going to get more on the Carmelo Anthony reaction

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Speaker 3: after this. It's Scott Jennings on Salem.

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Speaker 4: Stay with us.

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Speaker 12: You've heard the narratives. Now get the truth. It's the

912
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Speaker 12: Scott Jennings show.

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Speaker 3: Well, I told you we'd keep on top of it,

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Speaker 3: and there is a little news on this effort to

915
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Speaker 3: extend FISA, our surveillance law that allows us to pay

916
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Speaker 3: attention to what these overseas terrorists are doing. So this morning,

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Speaker 3: House Speaker Johnson went to the White House talk to

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Speaker 3: the President. He's asked the Congress for a short term

919
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Speaker 3: extension to keep talking.

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Speaker 4: But a couple of.

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Speaker 3: Political reporters that I follow and trust, Jake Sherman and

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Speaker 3: Andrew desa Dario, are reporting that the consensus from the

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Speaker 3: Senate Democratic lunch. So the Senate Democrats just now had

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Speaker 3: their lunch and they are saying no deal on a

925
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Speaker 3: short term FISA extension.

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Speaker 4: Until Bill Poulti is gone. Now.

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Speaker 3: Pulty is the man that President Trump, at least on

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Speaker 3: an interim basis, has appointed to head up the Office

929
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Speaker 3: of the Director of National Intelligence. He replaced Tulci Gabbard,

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Speaker 3: and that is what is causing this whole feis a mess.

931
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Speaker 3: So right now President wants a short term deal and

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Speaker 3: the Democrats and the Senator saying, we won't do that

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Speaker 3: until you get rid of Pulty. So we're going to

934
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Speaker 3: keep tracking this over the next few hours. This all,

935
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Speaker 3: by the way, goes away on Friday. FAISA is set

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Speaker 3: to expire on Friday, so not much time left. In

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Speaker 3: a minute, I want to get back to the Carmelo

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Speaker 3: Anthony trial. Some really crazy reactions from some people you've

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Speaker 3: a lot of reasons, A lot of it has to

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Speaker 4: Scott was right.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about this, Carmelo Anthony, try a

976
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Speaker 3: little bit more. We just had our legal analyst on

977
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Speaker 3: to talk about the murderer conviction. But there had been

978
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Speaker 3: some crazy, absolute crazy reactions to this, and I'm so

979
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Speaker 3: sad that we haven't talked about her in a while

980
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Speaker 3: since she lost the Texas Senate Democrat primary. But Jasmine Crockett,

981
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Speaker 3: the smartest Democrat out there, has burst back onto the

982
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Speaker 3: scene with some commentary on the Carmelo Anthony conviction. Now,

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Speaker 3: Anthony used a knife to stab Austin metcalf in the heart,

984
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Speaker 3: lacerated his heart. The jury was shown pictures of the

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Speaker 3: heart from the autopsy. They took it out, they put

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Speaker 3: it on a table. They showed the jury pictures of

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Speaker 3: the lacerated heart with a knife. What does Jasmine Crockett

988
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Speaker 3: think about that? Let's hear that and cut five?

989
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Speaker 1: Was it a switch?

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Speaker 17: I don't know.

991
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Speaker 6: It was like it seemed like.

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Speaker 18: It was a multi tool, almost like a Swiss arm. Yeah,

993
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Speaker 18: like with the little scissors and everything and whatever. So

994
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Speaker 18: it's small, Well, I would argue the size of it alone,

995
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Speaker 18: you wouldn't even think it's a daily weapon.

996
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Speaker 19: And if there was one of the little like I

997
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Speaker 19: don't know, like I do. That's why he went to

998
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Speaker 19: his coach and was like, but I don't think I

999
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Speaker 19: heard him that.

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Speaker 3: Jasmine Crockett says that the knife that was used to

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Speaker 3: murder Austin metcalf isn't a deadly weapon, never minding the

1002
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Speaker 3: fact that the victim in the case is dead from

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Speaker 3: a stab wound to the heart. That was number one

1004
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Speaker 3: reaction from Crockett. Number two reaction, Well, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 3: play this for you. Yeah, it's amazing what people will

1006
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Speaker 3: say in front of a camera. Cut Number four.

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Speaker 18: Black women, especially black women who have black male children,

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Speaker 18: live in fear and agony every single day, a fear

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Speaker 18: and agony that I promise you the Metcalfs probably never

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Speaker 18: spend a day live in that way. And we're gonna

1011
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Speaker 18: have to have just some real conversations about race in

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Speaker 18: this country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Metcalfs who lost their son to a murderer, Yeah,

1014
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Speaker 3: they've never.

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Speaker 4: Felt any agony.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jasmine Crockett, there's a reason she lost that

1017
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Speaker 3: race earlier this year, and you just heard a little

1018
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Speaker 3: bit of that. More after this, Scott Jennings on Salem,

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Speaker 3: stay with.

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Speaker 1: Use comments and the stories.

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Speaker 12: In fact, the mainstream media refuses to discuss the Scott

1022
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Speaker 12: Jenny Show.

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Speaker 3: Got a lot of breaking news popping on Capitol Hill

1024
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Speaker 3: here to discuss it. Congressman from Western Michigan. Bill heizinga

1025
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Speaker 3: Congressman heizinga thanks for joining us here on the Scott

1026
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Speaker 3: Jennings Show.

1027
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Speaker 4: I'm going to hit you with some rapid.

1028
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Speaker 3: Fire news items, all kind of layering in as we speak.

1029
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Speaker 3: I know you're up at the US capital right now.

1030
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Speaker 3: First things first, FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, it's

1031
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Speaker 3: going to expire on Friday. The President has told congressional

1032
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Speaker 3: leaders he wants an extension, a short term extension. It

1033
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Speaker 3: sounds like Democrats in the Senate don't want to do

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Speaker 3: that because of Bill Poulty being installed, at least temporarily

1035
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Speaker 3: over at the National Intelligence Office. What do you think,

1036
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Speaker 3: what are the consequences if FAISA goes dark on Friday?

1037
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Speaker 3: And are the Democrats we're there in transigence here, putting

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Speaker 3: our national security at risk.

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Speaker 14: Well, the answer to that question is yes they are.

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Speaker 14: And I would start with I think Bill Poulty is

1041
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Speaker 14: the excuse use right now that they're using for not

1042
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Speaker 14: supporting this. And look, you know a lot of US

1043
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Speaker 14: Republicans had concerns that the pies of Court had possibly

1044
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Speaker 14: been weaponized. Under the Biden administration. There was a lot

1045
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Speaker 14: of reforms that were put in place that Jim Jordan

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Speaker 14: had led to charge on.

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Speaker 8: So I feel comfortable with where it is right now.

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Speaker 14: And the simple fact is we going dark in this

1049
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Speaker 14: area is going to put the country in jeopardy. And

1050
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Speaker 14: once again we see the Democrats willing to play politics

1051
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Speaker 14: in a.

1052
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Speaker 8: Very very dangerous way here with our country security.

1053
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Speaker 3: Well, this monitoring of terrorism, I mean, we've had acts

1054
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Speaker 3: of terrorism on Americans, sool we know there are people

1055
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Speaker 3: in the country that are communicating with people outside of

1056
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Speaker 3: the country who want to commit acts of terrorism and

1057
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Speaker 3: against the United States. We're currently at war where they ran.

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Speaker 3: They obviously have proxies around the world that want to

1059
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Speaker 3: commit terrorism. So to let this lapse right now just

1060
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Speaker 3: seems the height of irresponsibility. And speaking of terrorism, you

1061
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Speaker 3: yourself have recently been working on some legislation called Deport

1062
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Speaker 3: the Terrorist Act, so this has been at the top

1063
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Speaker 3: of your agenda. Tell us about this bill, why you

1064
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Speaker 3: filed it, and what are the prospects for it for

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Speaker 3: the rest of the year here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, it's pretty simple.

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Speaker 14: It says, if you are a naturalized citizen who has

1068
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Speaker 14: renounced your own citizenship from your original country and you

1069
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Speaker 14: have sworn off allegiance to that country and have sworn

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Speaker 14: allegiance to the United States and have declared you are

1071
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Speaker 14: now an American citizen and that you are walking away

1072
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Speaker 14: from all of those princes and potentates. Is actually some

1073
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Speaker 14: of the wording that's used when that naturalization ceremony and you,

1074
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Speaker 14: if you are convicted of a terrorism related crime, we

1075
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Speaker 14: have no way of deporting you at this point and

1076
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Speaker 14: renouncing that citizenship or yanking that citizen ship away. And

1077
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Speaker 14: that just doesn't seem right to me. If you are

1078
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Speaker 14: going to be willing to, on one hand, pledge allegiance

1079
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Speaker 14: to this country yet continue to work for its destruction,

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Speaker 14: continue to work towards harming citizens, and whether it's through financing,

1081
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Speaker 14: through training, through plotting, or actually carrying out a terrorism attack,

1082
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Speaker 14: then you ought to lose your citizenship and not have

1083
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Speaker 14: the same protections of a US citizen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you all up there in Michigan have seen some

1085
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Speaker 3: acts of terrorism by naturalized citizens. We've seen some other story.

1086
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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of states have seen acts of

1087
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Speaker 3: terrorism by people that went through the naturalization process and

1088
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Speaker 3: yet obviously are in this country to do it harm.

1089
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Speaker 3: Do you think this is I mean, I'm going to

1090
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Speaker 3: ask it any way at all you find bipartisan support

1091
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Speaker 3: for this or is this going to have to be

1092
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Speaker 3: fully lifted by the Republicans here At.

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Speaker 14: This point, it looks like it's going to be a

1094
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Speaker 14: Republican only exercise. We're hoping that common sense prevails here

1095
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Speaker 14: with some of my colleagues on the other side of

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Speaker 14: the aisle. But I got to tell you that anything

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Speaker 14: really really hard even the people that are typically rational

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Speaker 14: about this. So we're trying, we're trying to spread this

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Speaker 14: because again I think this is common sense. Again, if

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Speaker 14: you are going to attack this country after you have

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Speaker 14: sworn allegiance to it and became a citizen, we ought

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Speaker 14: to have the ability to revoke that citizenship and get

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Speaker 14: you out of the country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking about cases that we've covered this year,

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Speaker 3: like Mohammed Jalo, the naturalized citizen who committed the Old

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Speaker 3: Dominion shooting, thinking about the Temple Israel shooting in West Bloomfield.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it is.

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Speaker 3: Not a stretch to say that legislation like this could

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Speaker 3: prevent acts of terrorism like that from happening.

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Speaker 14: Again, Yes, exactly right, And in some of these cases,

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Speaker 14: we've seen convictions, and again, this isn't just an accusation,

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Speaker 14: this is a conviction. After you've had a due process,

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Speaker 14: you've had all of the constitutional protections as a u

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Speaker 14: as a citizen, you're still found guilty of working against

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Speaker 14: this country in a very meaningful way. And by the way,

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Speaker 14: there are there are legal definitions of what terrorism is.

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Speaker 14: And then you know, again to your point, we've seen

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Speaker 14: this play out in sad ways that we ought to

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Speaker 14: be able to.

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Speaker 8: Do something about it.

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Speaker 14: So I'm hopeful that we're going to be able to

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Speaker 14: again convince some of my colleagues on the other side.

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Speaker 14: By definition, we need sixty votes over in the in

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Speaker 14: the Senate. But you know, look, anything that anything that

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Speaker 14: the Republicans are proposing on immigration right now seems to

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Speaker 14: just get an automatic no, doesn't matter even what the

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Speaker 14: question or what the problem is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Democratic position on illegal immigration, immigration of any

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Speaker 3: kind is that everybody must come here and be kept

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Speaker 3: here at all calls, even violent people, even people who

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Speaker 3: hate America, even people who are here to commit terrorism.

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Speaker 3: The default position of one of our political parties is, well,

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Speaker 3: let's keep him here. And I think to most Americans.

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Speaker 3: That just sounds crazy. I assume this is going to

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Speaker 3: be used in some of the congressional campaigns as fall,

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Speaker 3: maybe even yours. I know you're going to be in

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Speaker 3: a tough race up there in Michigan. Speaking of immigration,

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Speaker 3: President this morning in the Oval Office signed the Immigration

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Speaker 3: Funding Reconciliation Bill that came out of the House. Finally,

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Speaker 3: and now we're going to have seventy billion dollars to

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Speaker 3: fund ice and border patrol. What you've done here is

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Speaker 3: really protect immigration enforcement from Democrats. As long as Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump is the president, We're not going to have to

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Speaker 3: revisit this again while President Trump is in office, but

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Speaker 3: you know, I worry about what happens after that. You know,

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Speaker 3: if Democrats win elections the House, the Senate, the White

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Speaker 3: House in twenty twenty eight, what the Republicans have done

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Speaker 3: here to close the border and restrain this legal immigration,

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Speaker 3: it can go away in the blink of an eye,

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Speaker 3: couldn't it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely one.

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Speaker 14: And to quote a fairly recent president who said elections

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Speaker 14: have consequences that Now, he was of a different party,

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Speaker 14: but he was right on that. And we will see

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Speaker 14: them full bore go back to where they had been before.

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Speaker 8: With an open.

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Speaker 14: Border, with a come one, come all, doesn't matter, your qualifications,

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Speaker 14: doesn't matter. If you are going to add to our society,

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Speaker 14: you are going to be welcomed here. And by the way,

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Speaker 14: assuming that you aren't going to be required to be

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Speaker 14: self sufficient, we're going to start throwing money at you.

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Speaker 14: And meanwhile, we've got our own citizenry that is suffering,

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Speaker 14: and I just don't understand why we have they have

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Speaker 14: placed a priority on non citizens coming into the country

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Speaker 14: rather than taking care of our own citizens.

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Speaker 8: And there's one there, one quick item.

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Speaker 14: Though, of this reconciliation bills funding that I think was

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Speaker 14: kind of lost. You know, first of all, we're actually

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Speaker 14: going to have more money for CVP and ICE at

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Speaker 14: the end of this had rather than if they had

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Speaker 14: just actually stuck to the deals that had been discussed.

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Speaker 14: But here was one of these things that is so

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Speaker 14: bothersome for me as a father. We are restoring over

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Speaker 14: one hundred million dollars that is going to be used

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Speaker 14: explicitly for child exploitation, for rooting that out, for making

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Speaker 14: sure that some of the most vulnerable people are not

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Speaker 14: going to be trafficked, and what is not just shocking

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Speaker 14: but frustrating and makes me angry is we've got colleagues

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Speaker 14: who know this. They know it, and they willingly went

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Speaker 14: along with this just to score political points. And they

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Speaker 14: were literally putting kids in danger and trying to then

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Speaker 14: blame the Republicans for them when they wouldn't actually fund

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Speaker 14: these programs. So it's not just about ice enforcement or

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Speaker 14: even Customs and Border patrol. It's all of these other

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Speaker 14: investigations and all these other things that these agencies do

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Speaker 14: to protect people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the temper tantrum thrown by Democrats here shutting down

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Speaker 3: the Department of Homeland Security for all those weeks, forcing

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Speaker 3: all those TSA agents to go without pay, really putting

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Speaker 3: the nation at risk for a long long time, trying

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Speaker 3: to throw sand into gears of government. It was all

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Speaker 3: in service of demanding reforms or whatever you want to

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Speaker 3: call it to immigration enforcement. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: they got nothing. I mean, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: the President and the Republicans wound up getting more money

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Speaker 3: for immigration enforcement to keep going the President's program, which

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Speaker 3: is to keep the border closed so that we know

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Speaker 3: who's coming in here and keep these most dangerous people

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Speaker 3: from coming in and get the dangerous people who are

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Speaker 3: here out. Democrats really got nothing. It was a performative

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Speaker 3: temper tantrum that produced no results. Congress from Bill Heizing

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Speaker 3: is our guest from Western Michigan, got a couple of

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Speaker 3: minutes left here. I want to ask you about what

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Speaker 3: happens next for the House Republicans. This vehicle on the

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Speaker 3: immigration enforcement was a reconciliation bill, which means you can

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Speaker 3: pass it out of the Senate, which is a simple majority.

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Speaker 3: There's talk in the House about reconciliation three point zero

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Speaker 3: the third time you've tried to do it. I know

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Speaker 3: a lot of members that want to do it, some

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Speaker 3: maybe a little lukewarm on it. But my view is

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Speaker 3: I'll just tell you, I think the Republicans need to

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Speaker 3: do a little more governing this summer. Is that your position,

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Speaker 3: and if yes, what would you like to see in

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Speaker 3: this bill?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we do have to demonstrate that we can actually govern.

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Speaker 14: That's what the American people expect. I know, that's what

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Speaker 14: my constituents expect. That's certainly something that I've been trying

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Speaker 14: to deliver. And to a certain degree that means by

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Speaker 14: partisan is by partisanship on certain issues, if at all

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Speaker 14: possible what the Democrats have demonstrated is that they have

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Speaker 14: in this entire year into one big giant political statement

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Speaker 14: and therefore it's going to have to be basically a

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Speaker 14: one party.

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Speaker 8: UH effort all the way through.

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Speaker 14: And you know, look, we still have some cleanup that

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Speaker 14: we need to do in uh in in taxes and

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Speaker 14: the funding there. We've got a number of issues that

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Speaker 14: we still would like to tackle that are going to

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Speaker 14: be They're going to be tough, and you know, it's

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Speaker 14: it's forming government, especially when you've got people who just

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Speaker 14: live and breathe for the expansion of government is very difficult.

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Speaker 14: And again, you know, as we're seeing with with this

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Speaker 14: customs and border patrol and ice funding, they're willing to

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Speaker 14: cut off their political nose to spite their face because

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Speaker 14: because of the president and uh, you know that that

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Speaker 14: just doesn't.

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Speaker 8: Seem to make a whole lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 14: So we got energy that we have to tackle and

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Speaker 14: keep keep moving on that. Certainly, as we're seeing tweaks

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Speaker 14: to the tax tax policies that are helping to expand

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Speaker 14: our economy, that's going to be a key part. We've

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Speaker 14: got to solve the energy issue when it comes to affordability.

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Speaker 8: I know you've talked about that quite a bit. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 8: and you know hopefully we're going to be able to

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Speaker 8: do that.

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Speaker 3: Congressman Bill Heizingo Western Michigan. I know you're up in

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Speaker 3: the house right now. We wish you luck for the

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Speaker 3: rest of the year and trying to move through some

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Speaker 3: of these priorities.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you soon, and thanks for your time today.

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Speaker 8: Hey, thanks Scott, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you soon, all right, Thank you, Congressman. I

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Speaker 3: want to talk to you about how I prepare for

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Speaker 3: this show, for the debates that you see me have

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Speaker 3: on CNN. There's one website that I use probably more

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Speaker 3: than anything else, Free Spoke. They got everything there, If

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Speaker 3: you know, I get a lot of topics thrown at me.

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Speaker 3: It ran complicated stuff, and I need as much information

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Speaker 3: that covers all the spectrums left, right and middle, independent voices.

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Speaker 1: I need it.

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Speaker 3: I need it all. Free Spoke gives it to you.

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Speaker 3: Not Free Spoke, you're gonna get the whole picture, the

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Speaker 4: You don't get targeted ads on the back end.

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Speaker 3: If you want to do what I do to prepare

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Speaker 3: a break. More after this on the Scott Jenning Show.

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Speaker 1: Come back leaving me a leftist saying hamanahamanah. Yeah. This

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Speaker 1: is the Scott Jenny Show.

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Speaker 3: More news on Capitol Hill as we hit the home

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Speaker 3: stretch of the Scott Jennings Show here on Salem topic

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Speaker 3: today up there in one hearing. Act Blue. You've heard

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Speaker 3: of us covering this. ActBlue is the massive Democratic fundraising platform.

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Speaker 3: It was called to task over potential fraudulent and illegal donations,

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Speaker 3: including donations that may have originated from foreign sources. This

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Speaker 3: is one of the biggest money machines in American politics.

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Speaker 3: It's all for the Democrats, all for liberal causes. They

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Speaker 3: are finally being forced to answer some questions, and the questions,

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Speaker 3: to be honest, are not just coming from the Republicans.

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Speaker 4: Earlier this year, even the.

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Speaker 3: New York Times reported that Act blues own lawyers warned

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Speaker 3: the leaders of the organization that, hey, we may have

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Speaker 3: given Congress misleading information about how we screened donations to

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Speaker 3: prevent illegal foreign money from coming in. By the way,

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Speaker 3: that's the heart of this. Foreign money cannot enter American elections.

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Speaker 4: But there's a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of allegations and sort of investigations swirling out there

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Speaker 3: that Act Blue may have facilitated some foreign money coming

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Speaker 3: into our elections. And AC blue had previously told Congress

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Speaker 3: that they had used multiple layers of protection to root

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Speaker 3: out foreign donations. I'm just look internal reviews here, and

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Speaker 3: this is in the reporting suggested that some of these

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Speaker 3: safeguards were not always being followed.

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Speaker 4: This is important.

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Speaker 3: Because Act Blue is not a fringe operation. This platform

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Speaker 3: has processed about like nineteen billion dollars in donations. It

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Speaker 3: is the financial backbone of the Democratic Party. And the

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Speaker 3: idea that they were ignoring safeguards and allowing foreign money

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Speaker 3: to come in here is really sort of fascinating. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: they're having a hearing on Capitol Hill today. The CEO

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Speaker 3: of Act Blue, Regina Wallace, Jones was questioned by Representative

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Speaker 3: Brian Style. Let's hear that back and forth and cut thirteen.

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Speaker 17: According to The New York Times, you've been aware for

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Speaker 17: quite a while that the response you made was likely

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Speaker 17: false or misleading. Did you ever consider correcting the record

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Speaker 17: for this committee when it was brought to your attention

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Speaker 17: that your letter to me was false and misleading?

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Speaker 7: On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer

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Speaker 7: the question pursuing to the attorney client privilege and my

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Speaker 7: Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 17: So now you're following the advice of your lab of Council,

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Speaker 17: but you didn't when they warned you that your letter

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Speaker 17: to me was false and misleading.

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Speaker 3: That was an interesting turn there from Congressman's Style, because

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Speaker 3: what he's pointing out is is that Act Blue I

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Speaker 3: wasn't really paying attention to his lawyers before. But well,

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Speaker 3: and honestly and again, pleading the Fifth it is a

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Speaker 3: constitutional right, doesn't necessarily mean you've committed a crime. But

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Speaker 3: obviously the walls are getting somewhat closer here on Act Blue.

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Speaker 3: They're under massive investigation and they know, at a minimum

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Speaker 3: they may have misled Congress at a maximum, they may

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Speaker 3: have facilitated massive violations of our campaign finance laws that

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Speaker 3: are designed to keep form money out. Congressman Jim Jordan

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Speaker 3: is in the middle of this friend of the show.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear his back and forth with the witness and

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Speaker 3: cut sixteen.

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Speaker 1: We won't keep you here all day, but let me

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Speaker 1: just do one more.

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Speaker 3: Did you weikend your fraud standers to help democrats?

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Speaker 7: I'm the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer

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Speaker 7: the question pursuant my fitth Amendment rights under the Constitution.

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Speaker 3: All right, So, multiple members of Congress trying to get

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Speaker 3: answers from Act Blue, and they were unsuccessful because ActBlue

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Speaker 3: is now being investigated by well, they're being investigated by

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Speaker 3: a number of people down in Texas. In fact, Texas

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Speaker 3: Attorney General Ken Paxton actually he filed a landmark civil

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Speaker 3: lawsuit against Act Blue. He is alleging that the platforms

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Speaker 3: lacks vetting procedures, misled consumers and allowed for these fraudulent

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Speaker 3: foreign donations. So that's going on down there. The Department

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Speaker 3: of Justice is investigating these allegations that the platform was

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Speaker 3: used to elicit straw donor contributions. So basically foreign money

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Speaker 3: going to an intermediary and then being donated through Act Blue.

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Speaker 3: That's illegal. You can't do that, So they're under an

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Speaker 3: investigation there. There is a lot of smoke here, a

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Speaker 3: lot of smoke here on Act Blue. But to underscore

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Speaker 3: the headline, this is such a bombshell in American politics

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Speaker 3: because of the amount of money that Act Blue facilitates

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Speaker 3: for Democrats. Virtually every major Democrat and Democrat organization uses

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Speaker 3: Act Blue. And what's being called into question here goes

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Speaker 3: to the core of you know, did you follow the

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Speaker 3: law and did you put in the protections? Did you

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Speaker 3: follow the advice to screen out the foreign money. Doesn't

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Speaker 3: sound like they're getting a lot of satisfactory answers. Will

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Speaker 3: continue to follow this and we're done for the day.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow. Scott Jennings is here, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: It's common sense for the American people, and we'll be

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Speaker 3: right back here tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere