1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Welcome to the Praying Christian Women Podcast. I 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: am Milana here with Jamie. How are you? I'm doing great? 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: How about you? 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm okay. We were just talking off there how we 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: both are feeling tired and rusty. So I was going 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: to play a really mean joke on when me and 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: our listeners to give them an example of our topic 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: today and tell them we are both so tired and 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Jamie's got a headache and I've been in bed for 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: fifteen hours straight. But we're going to pull through this. 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: But guys, just bear with us. And I was going 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: to use that as an example of if we start 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: an episode like that, that is the perfect epitome of 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: what we're talking about today. So can you introduce us 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: to our topic of the day. Someone knows what we're 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: talking about. 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: Yes, our topic of the day is self fulfilling prophecies. 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 3: And I was actually thinking, because I just said, oh, 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm doing great, even after I just told you, oh, 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: I'm kind of dragging. 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm not doing this great. 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: My self fulfilling prophecy will be if I say it, 23 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: it will be. So, so I'm going to say I'm 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: doing awesome. This is going to be the best episode ever. 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: It probably will be. 26 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: It probably will be. 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I've been really excited to chat about this topic. 28 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I want to piggyback this onto some of what we've 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: been talking about with Bible memorization, because I discovered that 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: some of my Bible memorizing blocks we're turning into self 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: fulfilling prophecies in a kind of humorous way. But before 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: I tell you that story, can you give us just 33 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: a definition so that we're all on the same page 34 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: it with what we're talking about here. 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: Yes, the Britannica definition for self fulfilling prophecy is a 36 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: process through which an originally false expectation leads to its 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: own confirmation. In a self fulfilling prophecy, an individual's expectations 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: about another person or entity eventually result in the other 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: person or entity acting in ways that can firm the expectations. 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: So kind of in Layman's terms, it's like you believe 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: something and it comes true because you believe it, right. 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: And I think that if we take the term like 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: prophecy with the big P like the Old Testament prophets 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: or Biblical prophecy out of it, and if we want 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: to think about it just in terms of common sense. 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: To me, this makes logical sense in the same way 47 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: that something like the placebo effect makes logical sense. It's 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: not going to happen every single time. It's not more 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: powerful than God. But it makes sense that if you 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: go to school every day and tell yourself that you're 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: terrible at math, that you are not going to get 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: as good of test scores in math. And so you 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: have basically taken this prophecy with a little p that 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: you're bad at math, and you have made it come true. 55 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: And sometimes the self fulfilling prophecies are things that we 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: say to ourselves. Sometimes they're negative, sometimes they're positive. Another 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: self fulfilling prophecy is when Jamie says I'm having I 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: feel great and we're going to have a great episode, 59 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: and that lifts up our energy. And let's say she 60 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: and I hadn't had this back and forth before we 61 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: got on the air, and I showed up sluggish, and 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, Oh, this is going to be 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: so hard to get through. And Jamie shows up and says, 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a great episode. I'm so excited 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: to be doing this. That can become a self fulfilling prophecy, 66 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: because then I read into her excitement and buy into 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: her excitement, and so then I tell myself, even if 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: it's all on a subconscious level, oh, I better rise 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: up and match her positive energy. I don't want to 70 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: be the one to bring her down. Whereas if we 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: started the show off kind of like a jokingly, guys, 72 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: we are so exhausted. If we sound terrible, bear with us. 73 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of podcasts I listen to where they'll 74 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: start by saying, like, we're recording in a new spot, 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: the acoustics are going to be strange. You and I 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: have done it before when one of us has had 77 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: to record on the phone as a listener. I never 78 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: noticed until they bring it up. But yeah, if you 79 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: start by saying, you know, sorry, listeners, today's episode is 80 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: going to be really terrible. We're going to stumble over 81 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: our words all the time. Not only is it more 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: likely that you and I are going to stumble over 83 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: our words more than we otherwise might. Even if we 84 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: stumbled over our words the exact same number of times 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: that we do in a typical episode, listeners would be 86 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: more likely to recognize it, right because like, oh, they 87 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: warned us, Oh, Yep, there she goes again, you know, 88 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: forgetting the word that she was trying to think up. 89 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: And so my story of why I've been so excited, 90 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: I think I've kind of turned into a nag to you, 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: so I might need to offer you an apology. Let's 92 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: do self fulfilling prophecies, and then like two days later, 93 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: I can't wait, We're gonna do selff. Can we do 94 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: self fulfilling prophecy soon? I'd really like to do self 95 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: a feling prophecies. 96 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 3: No, it's perfect because my mind is like a sieve 97 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: and I don't think so every time you said I 98 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: was like, Wow, what a great idea. This is all 99 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: of it a great concept, even after. 100 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: I excited five times. So you and I were talking 101 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: about Bible memorization, and I loved that little mini series 102 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: that we did. By mini series, I mean two part episode. 103 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: But I got me thinking about some of my blocks, 104 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: and I share that historically I had noticed a correlation 105 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: between going into deep Bible memory work and going into 106 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: a pretty depressive funk, like as I was starting, and 107 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: for a long time I just told myself that that 108 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 1: was the activation energy required, and then it was like, okay, 109 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: this always happens when I start memorizing a big passage 110 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: and then it's going to get better, kind of like 111 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: I tell myself, the middle of a novel manuscript for me, 112 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: always feels kind of sluggish, and so I tell myself 113 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: it's like, Alana, you've been here before. You know it's 114 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: going to pick up again. It's gonna be fine, So 115 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: just get through this part that doesn't feel as good. 116 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: And so I started memorizing some from Romans eight the 117 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: very next day after, like I think you and I 118 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: both memoriz like a verse or two. Because we were 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: recording on short notice, it didn't have a ton of 120 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: time to work on a full passage. But like the 121 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: day after I started like a whole paragraph. I was 122 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: like in bed for a day and I'm like, okay, 123 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: here we go again. It was sort of like yep, 124 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: I called it. And so I did that thing I 125 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: do where I told myself, Okay, you know sometimes this happens. 126 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: It's going to be worth it. It's gonna be two 127 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: or three kind of mentally sluggish days, but want it 128 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: be nice to be back into regular Bible memory work again. 129 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: And I was even gonna text you and be like 130 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: it happened again. But of course when you're in that 131 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: kind of funk, you don't text anybody and tell them, 132 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: then you're in that kind of a funk. Okay, So 133 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: here's where self fulfilling prophecy comes in. And I am 134 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: like laughing hysterically on the inside, because this is not 135 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: a story of poor Alana who gets depressed but then 136 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: musters through it so she can memorize the Bible. By 137 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: day three, like everybody was noticing, I was going to 138 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: bed at like five or six at night. Finally Scott's like, 139 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: what's up. I'm like, I don't know. I didn't want 140 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: to bring up the Bible memory thing to him because 141 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: it just sounded silly. And then I went to the 142 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 1: fridge where I keep a little I think it's a pint. 143 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: I had a pint of dairy free sorbet, and that's 144 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: my treats to myself. I get it on the grocery orders. 145 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: When Scott goes into town, he brings me back like 146 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: a pint of dairy free ice cream. So I went, 147 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, probably the sugar's not gonna help, but oh well, 148 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I go to unscrew the lid. I realize this pint 149 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: of ice cream that i'd been just kind of, you know, 150 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: eating through for the last week. They hadn't given me 151 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: the dairy free version, and so like I've known for 152 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: over a year that dairy really messes up my brain 153 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: and my inflammation and my joints and my mood. And 154 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: so I just had to laugh, like I've been I 155 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: the moment I noticed that, Like, I didn't run up 156 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: the stairs because my joints were not at the ability 157 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: to run, but I had a lot more energy going 158 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: up the stairs than I had in days. To tell Scout, 159 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: like I figured it out, I'm not broken, I'm not dying. 160 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm not being punished for memorizing the Bible. I ate, 161 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: I've been eating this dairy for like a week. And 162 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: so but here's the thing. If I hadn't a learned 163 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: how to muster through that of Okay, it's going to 164 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: be hard and then I'm going to get through it, 165 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: I would have just quit. I would have said, Yep, 166 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Bible memory leads to depression. Depression is not worth it. 167 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: And if I had not been open to you know what, 168 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: because picture me at my pridefulest worst, could you picture 169 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: this tiny bit of like I'm so special that the 170 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: devil has to punish me when I try to memorize 171 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: the Bible, do you know what I mean? 172 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: Like, oh, definitely, because there's I mean, there's just like 173 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: a whole theology, kind of sub theology I think in 174 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: Christian culture about well, if the devil's not persecuting you, 175 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: you're not doing it right, and exactly kind of a 176 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: pride in Oh, yeah, I'm suffering these attacks because I'm 177 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 3: doing this thing. And not to say that that doesn't 178 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: sometimes happen because it doesn't have to, but it doesn't have. 179 00:09:53,160 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: To, right, Yeah. 180 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: So I think this was a perfect example of a 181 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: self fulfilling prophecy that in my brain I was like, well, 182 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: obviously this has to be because I started memorizing the 183 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Bible again, But it had nothing to do with that. 184 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: I had to deal with the fact that I was 185 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: eating like spoonfuls of dairied ice cream all week long. 186 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: And I think one of the most common self fulfilling 187 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: prophecies that Christians can fall into is this idea that 188 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: you just talked about. Before I do something big for God, 189 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: the Devil's gonna come after me. And yes, we should 190 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: always be aware that certain things will open us up 191 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: to spiritual attack. But there's a huge difference between that 192 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: and I think about Gideon. So here's the enemy army, 193 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: here's the Midianites. And they hear one of their men 194 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: talking about the stream he had where Gideon attacked and 195 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: destroyed all of them, and so they tell themselves, Oh, 196 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: this must mean that Gideon is going to attack and 197 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: destroy us all. So they're already getting into a superstitious funk. 198 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: And then they hear these trumpets that Gideon is blowing. 199 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: Gideon and his three hundred men, who without any type 200 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: of divine intervention and without this superstitious belief that the 201 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: midia Knites have bought into, have no means of defeating them, 202 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: but they're already primed to be prepared to be defeated 203 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: by Gideon. Did they kind of go crazy and turn 204 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: on themselves. I don't want that to detract from the 205 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: miraculous deliverance God view of the Israelites that day, But 206 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: I think that even somebody who didn't believe in God 207 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: but still believed in the historical events it's written in 208 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: judges could look at that and say that that was 209 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: a self fulfilling prophecy that the fact that the Midianites 210 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: were so terrified that they were going to be defeated 211 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: is what ultimately led to them being defeated. And I 212 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: think as Christians we do that to ourselves. And I 213 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: think it's also important to remember self fulfilling prophecies can 214 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: be for positive or negative things. 215 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, this is self fulfilling prophecy. So our 216 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: son was out shooting pucks and stop me if I've 217 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 3: shared this before, like recently, I feel like maybe I did. 218 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: Have I shared it. 219 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: I think you did, but I think it was on 220 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: True Crime Junkies because we recently talked about an episode 221 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: about like the power of positive. 222 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: Indem Okay, yes, yes, So that's a different podcast, same story, 223 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: So go for it. If you're not a Christian True 224 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: Crime Junkies listener, this will be new. If you are, 225 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: then it won't. But that's okay. So he went out, 226 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: he was shooting pucks and at the net we have 227 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: in our backyard, and he has this little radar gun 228 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: that sort of like gauges the speed of the bucks. 229 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: So he was trying to make it over seventy miles 230 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: an hour, and he was getting. 231 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Like sixty eight sixty eight. 232 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 3: Sixty eight was like the top, and he said, as 233 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: soon as I get to seventy, I'll be able to 234 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: do it a bunch, like because he knows, you know, 235 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: he kind of knows like once I because I'll know 236 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: it's possible. And so it's that's sort of a similar thing. 237 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 3: Like basically, so he finally he inched up sixty nine 238 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: and then seventy and then like he was able to 239 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 3: shoot a few more at seventy miles an hour because 240 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: he knew that was possible. And so I don't know, 241 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: that's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy might be having 242 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: the mindset there's no way I can get over seventy 243 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: sixty eight is kind of the max. 244 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, wait a minute. I am shocked right now 245 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: because you told this story. And I was like, okay, 246 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: that's a great example. And then I started to think, 247 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: seventy miles an hour, that's actually pretty fast, and then 248 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: I realized this is not on ice that we're talking about. 249 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: It's on fake ice. 250 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: So we have little you know, like the preschool like 251 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: square mats that interlock with the little fingers that interlock together. 252 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: We have that, only it's fake ice. It's not Okay, 253 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: you can't skate on it. There's some that they make 254 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: you can, but this you can't skate on. But it's 255 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: just basically like a certain kind of plastic that mimics 256 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: the ice. So we have a big pad of that, 257 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: and so they'll stand there on the pad with the 258 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: pucks and shoot it and then it goes you know, 259 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: five feet, and then they lift the puck anyway, so 260 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: you know, it goes a little bit and then lifts 261 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: and so yeah, that's how he can get it going 262 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: faster because there's way less friction than like the concrete. 263 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, No, that's really cool. I mean even on 264 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: ice and ice equivalent seventy miles an hour. That is 265 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: really fast. 266 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: He's got a pretty strong shot. That's cool. 267 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: That is very cool. So yeah, when we talk about 268 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: self fulfilling prophecies, have you, like, I know, Christians don't 269 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: love the word jinx, and I don't either, because it 270 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: does bring superstition. But I think that sometimes the idea 271 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: maybe comes from the same root. It's this idea of okay, 272 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: if you believe something like That's why I'm not the 273 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: kind of person who believes in jinx. Is like there 274 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: are times where even with Christians, all say something like 275 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: it has been a great week, we haven't had any 276 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: days under thirty below, and they'll be like, don't say that, 277 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: don't talk like that, because that's gonna make it happen. 278 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: And I've I've just decided to adopt the mindset of 279 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: the more I call out wonderful things that happen in 280 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: my life, the more grateful I am. And that I mean, 281 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: that could be a period that could be enough right there, 282 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: But why in the world would that make God less 283 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: likely to want to keep on blessing me? Right? So, 284 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: can you think of any times in your life where 285 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: you've kind of fallen into traps like this, either with 286 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: like self fulfilling prophecies of your own or anything along 287 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: the lines of what we're talking about. 288 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: Yes, One really interesting thing for me is I always 289 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: tell people that I'm really bad with names that I'll 290 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: remember face I can't. I'm good with voices, Like I'm 291 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: really good with voices, Like if I hear if I'm 292 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: watching a movie and I hear someone talking and like, oh, 293 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: that's so and so, but I don't remember their name, 294 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: Like I'll connect the dots and like what's that actor's name, 295 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: but I'll know that it's the same person. So anyway, 296 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: I've gotten into this habit of, say, of just being like, 297 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: I'm really bad with names. But I remember one time, 298 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: and it was in high school and I was at 299 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 3: a party and I decided, like I basically said, I'm 300 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: going to be good with names, and I focused on 301 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: the people and I even told it to someone. I'm like, 302 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to be I'm going to remember everyone's name 303 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: like that I and. 304 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: I actually was. It was weird. 305 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: It was like, as soon as I like tell intention 306 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: for that to be a priority, I actually And so 307 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 3: I look back on that and I think, you know what, 308 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: if I could do that on command. Maybe in general, 309 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: I don't focus on names enough and I let them 310 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: go in when you're and out. The other kind of 311 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 3: like when I ask my kids what they want, you know, 312 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: for a snack, and I give them three options and 313 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 3: then I don't listen. I don't pay attention to what 314 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 3: they say. But it's like what you focus on can 315 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: particularly be done. So I've been, you know, I think 316 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: I've been trying to tell myself things like, cause I 317 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: tell stories about myself. My stories are I'm disorganized. It's 318 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: hard for me to keep my house clean. I am 319 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 3: never on time, you know, just name the things. And 320 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 3: I've created these stories about myself and I live up 321 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: to them unless I choose to say something different. And 322 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: this whole conversation is making me thinking that I would 323 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: like to not only say, oh, like this is going 324 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: to be the exception to the rule. I'm going to 325 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: just I'm going to overcome this one day by saying, oh, 326 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to be organized today, but you know, just 327 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: create different narratives, like replace the old narratives. And I 328 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: know a lot of people have said that you need 329 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 3: to do this, but it's powerful for sure. 330 00:18:48,240 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know with names, because I've gotten to 331 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: where I can catch myself before I say something that 332 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: I think might be a self fulfilling prophecy. 333 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 3: You're really good, by the way, at I noticed very 334 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: much like you're very particular about your word selection, and 335 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 3: I love that. And it has over the years, whether 336 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: I've said it or not, I've noticed it, and it 337 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: really has been a good example for me. Anything from 338 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: like there are certain words that you won't say, like 339 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the ones. 340 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: Like lazy, the biggest lazy procrastinate. 341 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: Those are the two that I said something late about 342 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: lazy and like the look on your face, I was like, 343 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: I said something wrong, and that was like early on. 344 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: I think it's been years, but it was early on 345 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: in that hole and then you kind of explain. But anyway, 346 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: I didn't mean to interrupt, but I love that. I 347 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 3: really am the kind of person that interrupts a lot. 348 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: No, you are the kind of person who has amazing 349 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: ideas and can't wait to them. And to be fair, 350 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: since I do a little bit more audio edits right now, 351 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: like I interrupt you all the time. So but I 352 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: learned about being particular with my language, especially when the 353 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: kids were little. And some of it was because we 354 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: were around so many medical specialists and I was every 355 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: time one of them would say something like, oh, well, 356 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because he's not going to ever do this, 357 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 1: like it was. It wasn't just a cringe, it was 358 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: I am going to take this curse that you are 359 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: throwing at my child, and I am going to be 360 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: the force field that is immediately going to surround our 361 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: entire family from those words. You know what I mean? 362 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: That is so good man? There was also a parenting philosophy. 363 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you came across it too. I think it 364 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: ties a tiny bit into maybe a little bit of 365 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: gen parenting, which I never got like super into. But 366 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: the idea is, if you're let's say you're four year 367 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: old at was it Valley of the Sun or Valley 368 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: of the Moon park and Anchorage val okay, and do 369 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: you remember how it had that super tall tower like 370 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: it looks like one hundred feet or higher and kids 371 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: would love to climb up it. And I would always 372 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: stop myself for our our oldest he was always our climber, 373 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: just climbing everything. And what I was taught by other 374 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: moms kind of by example. But I think even sometimes 375 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: like deliberately not to say was don't do that because 376 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: you'll fall, right, because the minute they hear in their brain, oh, 377 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: mom says I'm going to fall. Mom is an authority figure. 378 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Does it mean a hundred percent of the time it 379 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: will make them fall? No? Does it mean that their 380 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: brains will be more likely for them to fall? I 381 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: think it absolutely does, especially since as the mom of 382 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: a young child, you are seeing as such an authority, 383 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: and so you could say something like don't run on 384 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: the ice because it's not safe. But you wouldn't under 385 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: this philosophy. You wouldn't say don't run in the ice 386 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: because you'll fall and break your arm. Right that is 387 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: because in a way, that's like a mini curse that's 388 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: telling them, if you do this thing, then you are 389 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: more likely to fall and break your arm. So I 390 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: definitely want to put limits around this because I think 391 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: that the philosophy gets very abused, and even in Christian circles, 392 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: and maybe even especially in Christian circles. I almost love 393 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: to think of this philosophy as connected to the Bible, 394 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: as staying hydrated for your health is connected to the Bible, 395 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: like I don't see them as enmeshed, and they're also 396 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: not contradictory. Where I see danger is when somebody says, oh, 397 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: if you tell your child don't jump on that rock, 398 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: or you'll fall and crack your head open, then God's 399 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: going to hear you, and he's going to make them 400 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: fall and crack their head open. 401 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: Or the power of your words, apart from God, is 402 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: going to make that happen, because then that even puts 403 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: the power on you and your words in a. 404 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Kind of witchcraft. 405 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: Sense as opposed to just in like the general biblical 406 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: or non biblical sense of keep it positive and it 407 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 3: will not be negative. 408 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 409 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: And it can be abused in Christianity when you try 410 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: to use positive thinking to twist God's arm right, So 411 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: just affirmations, in my opinion, are great, but they can 412 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: go overboard if you're believing in the power of the 413 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: words that you're saying outside of God, or if you're 414 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: using them for just very selfish motivation. So well, that's 415 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: kind of the limits that I put on it. I 416 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: don't want to make it so that like God has decreed. 417 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: I just think that this is kind of general good 418 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: common sense, like don't swear at your kids and don't 419 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: tell them they're about at math. Like, to me, that's 420 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: as simple as it has to be or as complicated 421 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: as it has to be. But also be careful. You know, 422 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: if you wouldn't say it to your kid, don't say 423 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: it to yourself even internally. And the flip side, because 424 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: so many of us are raised to be so scared 425 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: of pride that we have the opposite. We would have 426 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 1: a hard time looking in the mirror and saying I 427 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: Jamie Hampton am organized and peaceful and great at podcasting 428 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: and a wonderful mom. Like we're afraid that by saying 429 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: those words we might fall into pride. And we have 430 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: this sense. And again I think this is where this 431 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: idea of Jingston comes in. We have the sense at 432 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: the minute we get prideful, God's gonna come and like 433 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: He's just waiting for us to show that tiny smidge 434 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: of pride so he can smack us down. And if 435 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: you think about like the way you think of your children, 436 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: there was never a moment where anything even remotely like 437 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: that feeling came into you. And so like, if we 438 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: being sinful parents don't think that about our kids, there's 439 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: no way God's thinking about that. And so the way 440 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: I see it, if you want to say, if it's 441 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: negative words that you would not tell your child, don't 442 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: tell it to yourself. Similarly, if it's positive words that 443 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: you think your children deserve to hear, tell it to yourself. 444 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a huge difference between pride 445 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: and pride and I wish we had better words. You know, 446 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: there is the difference of like, Jamie, I am proud 447 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: of you for doing all the podcasting stuff you do, 448 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: and I am so proudly arrogant because I'm the very 449 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: best podcast co host and Jamie chose me. Right. Those 450 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: are two different kinds of pride, but we don't have 451 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: two different words for them, the kind of paternal pride, 452 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: like you did something that bears acknowledgment, so let's acknowledge it. 453 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that that. I think that is so 454 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: separate from what God is warning us against when he 455 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: tells us to remain humble, that it's like saying, you know, 456 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: it's the sin to wear blue, Like it's it's so 457 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: out of left field, like they're not even related to 458 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: each other. 459 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. And yeah, 460 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 3: I think it's one of those things where it is 461 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 3: hard for us sometimes to separate those two things, especially 462 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: as women. And yeah, yeah, but I think it's healthy 463 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: to think about it and try to practice it. 464 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. So in addition to being careful about the 465 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: words we say, how could we tie this into practical 466 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: takeaways for our prayer lives. 467 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 468 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: I think maybe as we not being afraid to pray big, 469 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes I limit God by the limitations 470 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: of either what has been done before what seems possible. 471 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: Going back to the seventy miles an hour thing. If 472 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: if I am basically thinking that I want to ask 473 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 3: God for something, let's say that I have limited God 474 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: based on what has happened before, what I expect as 475 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: the status quo, and I think by asking bigger, we 476 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: are doing the same thing as if we are you 477 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: know that seventy miles an hour being the limit. As 478 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: long as I believe that seventy miles an hour is 479 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 3: the limit, I'm never going to get pass it. So 480 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: if I ask above that, knowing that the sky is 481 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: the limit, and then you know, it gives God more 482 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: room to operate in ways or bigger. 483 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not. 484 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: Talking specifically about prosperity. 485 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: I'm talking about anything, whether it's you know, I prayed 486 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 3: for this person for ten years and they have not 487 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: come to Christ. Now I'm praying for this person and 488 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: I know, of course God's not going to really move 489 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: in their lives for a very very very long time, 490 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 3: but expecting more opening the doors maybe for good to move. 491 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you have any ideas we think 492 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: about this being used in if not, like in our prayers, 493 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: I could see it definitely be used in how we 494 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: think about ourselves as women who pray. So if you 495 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: always tell yourself I'm really disorganized in my prayers, or 496 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: the minute someone gives me a prayer request and mine 497 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: forget it. What I've trained myself to do with names 498 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: because I have a really hard I'm remembering people's names, 499 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: and if it's somebody that it's really important for me 500 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: to remember, when I'm introduced to them, i will look 501 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: them in the eye and I'll say, Megan, Okay, I'm 502 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: going to remember that. And so I'm basically making a 503 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: commitment to them that I'm going to remember their name. 504 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: And so if you tell yourself, yeah, this missionary is 505 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: going to come and I'm going to feel so inspired 506 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: to pray for them, and I'm never going to remember 507 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: it again. Okay, Instead tell yourself, I'm going to remember 508 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: to pray for this person, or go and tell them 509 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to remember to pray for you. Sometimes I forget, 510 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: but right now with you, I'm standing here right now, 511 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: and I remember that I'm going to remember. And so 512 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: whatever blocks you have, whatever stories you tell yourself about 513 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: the kind of prayer woman you are, I would examine 514 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: and ask if there are limiting beliefs there, or if 515 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 1: those are turning into self fulfilling prophecies. Oh, whenever I 516 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: pray for this life gets worse. Whenever I pray for patients, 517 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: God sends something terrible to me. Is that true? No, 518 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: like that actually is a falsehood. I'm sorry to everybody 519 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: who has said it, either in seriousness or in jest. 520 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: That's just not true. And there is nothing that you 521 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: will show me in scripture that tells me that anybody 522 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: who prays for patients is going to experience tribulation, because 523 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: what the Bible says is the rainfalls on the just 524 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: and unjust, and so whatever it is. Sometimes, I know 525 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: you had a blog post that resonated with so many people, 526 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: and it was this idea of if I start really 527 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: praying for this person, I'm almost afraid that God's going 528 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: to make their life bad. Like let's say you're praying 529 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: for a prodigal, I don't want to pray for them 530 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: to come to Christ because I know they've got a 531 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: hit rock bottom before they come to Christ's night. I 532 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: just feel so bad having go through that. Does the 533 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: Bible say that every single prodigal must hit rock bottom 534 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: before they come to Christ. I don't see that anywhere, 535 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: And so we can re examine how the beliefs that 536 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: we have, or even the superstitions we have about prayer 537 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: or about the power of our prayers can be impacting 538 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: our beliefs. 539 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, another kind of along those same lines is 540 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: this idea that if I start praying more, or if 541 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: I start doing this work of God, then I'm going 542 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: to become a target for the enemy. And that is 543 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: that is a superstitious belief that can kind of, you know, 544 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 3: sort of similar to the praying for someone that they're 545 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: going to go through hard times, but just kind of 546 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: being afraid to pray in general because you think that 547 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: you're going to become, you know, have a target on 548 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: your back. That can definitely be and it can be 549 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: self fulfilling prophecy, not because of necessarily attack, but just 550 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: confirmation bias. You just start to notice, you know, oh, 551 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: I stubbed my toe this morning, and then I lost 552 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 3: my toothbrush, and then I, you know, slam my finger 553 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: in the door on the way out. 554 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: You know, so things it would have happened no matter what, 555 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: but since you're looking for them like oh this, you know, 556 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: like I would have had a terrible week after eating 557 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: dairy ice cream for a whole week. Like with my 558 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: body being the way it is, there is no way 559 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: short of a truly divine miracle that I wouldn't have 560 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: had all the symptoms that I had. But because I 561 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: was in my brain saying every time I go and 562 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: try to memorize the Bible, this happens, I'm I'm looking 563 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: out for it. 564 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 565 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: Well, let's go ahead and close with our blessing and benediction. 566 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: May the Lord open the eyes of your heart and 567 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: fill you with wisdom in the inmost places. May the 568 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: Glorious Father grant you this spirit of wisdom and revelation, 569 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: so you may know Christ, who has become for us 570 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: wisdom from God. In the areas of your life in 571 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: need of guidance, May God grant you his wisdom and abundance, 572 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: so that you will not lean on your own insight, 573 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: but rely on the full ridges of complete understanding, which 574 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: are yours in abundance through Christ and her. 575 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: Benediction comes from Psalm one thirty four, verse three. May 576 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: the Lord bless you from Zion, he who made heaven 577 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: and earth. Amen, we'd like to take just a quick 578 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: second to thank the team at life Audio for their 579 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 3: partnership with us on the podcast. 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