1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: stop sending your kids to college. 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The Charlie Kirk Show 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: my family, friends and viewers. 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: All Right, Happy Monday. It is March ninth, twenty twenty six. Blake, 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Welcome this morning. 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: Howdy. 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: Lots of news this weekend. We are in ten days 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: of the Iran conflict and what CNBC is describing as 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: the largest oil disruption, energy disruption in history. 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: In history, it's in nineteen seventy two or seventy. 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: Three, Colin, that's what they're calling it. I'm not sure 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: I buy it, but yeah, the Americans, it's been so 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: biggest oil supply disruption in history. Might be a slight I. 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: Guess most people are too young to remember, including me, 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: and yeah, in the seventies, after the Yam Kippur War, 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: a lot of the Middle East did an oil embargo 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 4: of the West. 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: And it's interesting because that's lines. 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: Sometimes people speculate that's uh, there's that famous what the 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: heck happened in nineteen seventy two or so? Is that 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: chart where everything starts going bad in the early seventies, 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 4: And one of the arguments is it was the oil embargo. 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: It suddenly made energy more expensive. 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: Well, about twenty percent of the global supply has been 43 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: disrupted for about nine ten days now, more than double 44 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: the previous record set during the Suez Crisis of nineteen 45 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: fifty six. So that's per CNBC, there's virtually no spare 46 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: capacity to address the problem because Saudi Arabia UAE are 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: cut off from the global oil market anyway. So I listen, 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: I think there is a apparently it's not a supply issue. 49 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: It's just there is a shock to the system and 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: people don't know how it's going to resolve, so uncertainty 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: drives fear. Oil is backed down under one hundred dollars 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: a barrel, though it's off its highs. So I think 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: the market is sort of trying to find where the 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: line really should be. But there's definitely some fear rattling 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: the markets. We can get into that in a little bit, 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: but we want to start with the lead today of 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: New York. In New York, it was a very disruptive, discouraging, 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: dangerous moment that happened where self radicalized isis they call protesters. 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: These are terrorists. Used explosives called Mother of Satan inside 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: bombs thrown at Gracie Mansion. So Gracie Mansion is of 61 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: course where Mayor Momdani and his Islamist loving wife live, 62 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 2: and there were anti Muslim protests saying they didn't want 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: the we wanted to stop the Islamification, the Muslim takeover 64 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: of New York City. These two terrorist suspects in the 65 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: Gracie Square terror incident, Amir Balat who's eighteen, and Ibrahim Kayumi, nineteen, 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: are both US citizens. Blot's parents are Turkish immigrants who 67 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: are naturalized as US citizens in twenty seventeen. Kayumi's parents 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: are Afgham immigrants. His mother was naturalized in two thousand 69 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: and nine and his father in Twosand. 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: For yay yay, isn't it great? 71 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Hey, immigrants welcomed here? 72 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: Yay yay? 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 2: Immigration? So it's it, it's it underlies a bigger problem, 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: which is, yeah, you can stop third world immigration, but 75 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: guess what their kids could be radicalized by isis videos 76 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: on the internet. 77 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: There's gonna be people online who are going to point out, like, 78 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: this is a homegrown This isn't an immigration problem, it's 79 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: a homegrown terrorism problem because they're they're US citizens. 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's I mean, there's seems to be indication 81 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: that they these two young terrorists, budding terrorists, were potentially 82 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: radicalized abroad as well. Trips to Turkey, trips to Saudi Arabia, 83 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: which another funny instance here, trips to Melbourne, Australia, another 84 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: known terrorist training ground. Yep, welcome to the brave new 85 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: world where the West has been so Islamified that you 86 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: can now get radicalized in Melbourne, Australia. 87 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: That's actually totally the case. If you uh talk to 88 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 4: people in the Middle East, they'll say a lot of 89 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: the most radical people are in the West. There are 90 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 4: a lot more radical Muslims in London or in Birmingham, 91 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: I think than there are in Dubai. 92 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 93 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because when you put a bunch of 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: Muslims in a Western context, they instantly are infected with 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: leftist ideology, which says that they're part of a systemically 96 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: oppressive culture. And therefore they end up reacting even more 97 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: stridently against the West because they just feel different, they 98 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: feel like they're oppressed living in their own skin in 99 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: the Western context, and then they get radicalized even more so. 100 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: So let's go through some of the details here. There's 101 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: a substance known as TATP, which is enormously quote unquote volatile, 102 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: as extremely powerful substance. It's become the isis explosive substance 103 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: of choice. 104 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 5: Two eighty six, Fox News has learned of a disturbing 105 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 5: development involving the type of explosive used in the attempted attack, 106 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 5: and just how dangerous it is. 107 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: Let's bring in retired. 108 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 5: NYPD inspector Paul Morrow, who has more information on this 109 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 5: device that was found. So it was a homemade device, Paul, 110 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 5: but not necessarily a cheesy one. 111 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 6: In other words, no, not at all, John, and I 112 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 6: have to tell you, having done about fifteen years worth 113 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 6: of this kind of work, kind of terrorism work, this 114 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 6: is a bit of a game changer. First of all, 115 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 6: let me start by say New York City got extremely 116 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 6: lucky yesterday. GACHP is enormously volatile. It is not very stable. 117 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 6: It's extremely powerful. 118 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: And those bombs, those IEDs are filled with nuts and 119 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: bolts and very destructive elements, and basically when they go off, 120 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: they're like dozens and dozens of bullets flying in every direction. 121 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 2: This is a protester, a leftist protester who was there 122 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: saying all immigrants are welcome. Everybody's there as this Islamist 123 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: the bomb over his head. Two eighty five. 124 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 7: We were pulling and raised in New York and we 125 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 7: want everyone here to stay in New York. 126 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: You don't get to come from outside and then tell everyone. 127 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: Else just an incredible moment there is there. 128 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: It captures the left, like the Alliance of the Left. 129 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: Really well, you have this middle aged you know, kindness 130 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: is everything. I have the sign outside my house, you 131 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: immigrants welcome, lecturing everyone, and then one of his pet 132 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: terrorist immigrants jumps over his head and throws this bomb. 133 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: And of course importantly we should note that he has 134 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: not learned his lesson at all. A person who seems 135 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: to be him on on X had a tweet I 136 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 4: was in the middle of saying, as a born and 137 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: raised New Yorker, we welcome everyone into the city when 138 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: he threw that over my head, and I still stand 139 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: by it as a born and raised in New Yorker, 140 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: everyone is welcome. 141 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: And then he goes after Jake Lang, who was the 142 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: gentleman that had organized the counter protest. Ironically, Lang is 143 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: being described as a white supremacist, as a bigot, in islamophobe, 144 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: and ABC is this is literal news. 145 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: He's the only person you're allowed to attack in all 146 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: of this. But they when he didn't try to blow anyone. 147 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: Up, they refer to the terrorist as an activist. ABC 148 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: News right there, an activist Meanwhile, they described Lang as 149 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: a white supremacist and as a bigot. All right, and 150 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: then we have to get to this. We have enough 151 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: time here, Mayor Mom Donnie does the meme. 152 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 8: At two fifty eight on Saturday, a protest was held 153 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 8: outside Gracie Mansion, where I live with my wife Rama. 154 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 8: Neither of us were home at the time. This was 155 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 8: a vile protest rooted in white supremacy, entitled stop the 156 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 8: Islamic Takeover of New York City. I'm the first Muslim 157 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 8: mayor of our city. Anti Muslim bigotry is nothing new 158 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 8: to me, nor is it anything new for the one 159 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 8: million or so Muslim New Yorkers who know this city 160 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 8: as our home. 161 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: He did the meme. We'll explain that in a second. 162 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, so some Islam has tried to blow up 163 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: a bunch of people in New York City and he 164 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: starts his speech with white supremacy. Bad. That's what it's 165 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: come to. So we got to go through some of 166 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 2: these headlines because this is I think one of the 167 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: most symbolically important moments that I've seen recently of the 168 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: situation that we find ore some of course, we have 169 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: a conflict in Iran, but we are getting to the 170 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: point as a country where you don't have to love 171 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: what's going on in Iran, you don't have to have 172 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: supported that effort. We're getting to the point where you 173 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: can't actually conduct war with a Muslim country because you're 174 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: gonna have too many Islamists in the country that are 175 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: gonna try and bomb you. 176 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 4: It really is, and like people are going to cheer 177 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 4: them on and make excuses for them. Let's just show 178 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: the example here. Let's throw it up. It's two fifty nine, 179 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: so this was a local NBC the NBC New York outlet. 180 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: Multiple arrests made after suspicious devices found outside Gracie Mansion 181 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: during anti Islam rally and counter protest. So the obvious 182 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: implication here either is that the protesters left these bombs 183 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 4: and oh, you know, the violent anti Islamic demonstrators. 184 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: And the community note there for the whim the bombs 185 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: were thrown at the anti Muslim protesters, not by the 186 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: anti Muslim protesters, as this post and story would lead 187 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: you to believe. The witnesses say the attacker shout at 188 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: alo akbar as they threw the bombs at the protesters. 189 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: So thank you community notes. But it didn't stop the 190 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: the you know, failed fake news media. This is another 191 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: one axios explosive to sixty nine explosive device thrown outside 192 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: New York City Mayor Donnie's residence. So all the all 193 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: the headlines lead you to believe that somebody was coming 194 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: after the mayor that they want to know these were 195 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: Islamists attacking a protest against Islamification of America. So that 196 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: is our moment. We have to I mean, we have 197 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: the we have the meme here. This is the famous 198 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: Norm McDonald tweet. What terrifies me is if Isis were 199 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: to detonate a nuclear device and kill fifty million Americans, 200 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: imagine the pecklash against peaceful Muslims. 201 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: And yeah, it was exactly, and it was pointed out today. 202 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: Like younger people probably we basically lived through this alternate 203 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 4: universe where we're told that nine to eleven happened, and 204 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 4: it caused you know, probably caused the surge of Islamophobias. 205 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: That's what mom Donnie always talked about, and his aunt 206 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: was his aunt was scared to fake. 207 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: It's all completely fake. 208 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 9: That. 209 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: What happened immediately is President Bush came out and took 210 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 4: pains to say this is not Islam. It's a tiny 211 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: number of extremist actors. He's the one who popularized the 212 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 4: phrase Islam is a religion of peace that people make 213 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: fun of a lot because it's not really true, and 214 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: they endlessly push that. And on top of that, they 215 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: massively increased the Muslim population of the United States by 216 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: bringing them in as immigrants throughout the entire War on 217 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: Terrorism period, as refugees, as that whole spiel where they 218 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: were allies in the midist So we had to bring 219 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 4: them here and we're seeing the outcomes here. Who wants 220 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: to bet those Afghan immigrants who came here about fifteen 221 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: years ago. They were probably here because, oh they wanted 222 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: to get out of the Islamic radicalism of Afghanistan. Their 223 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: lives were in danger, and they come here and they 224 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: have a son who's in Islamic radical That's happened over 225 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 4: and over and over again, and it's going to keep 226 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 4: happening over and over and over again. 227 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you have the context, the backdrop. We 228 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: can't escape it. This is a we're in the tenth 229 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: day of this conflict in Iran. Emotions are heightened, tensions 230 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: are heightened, and they're sleeper cells, and maybe they're not 231 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: organized as you might think. Maybe they're not actual Iranian guards, 232 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: sleeper cells that have infiltrated the country. There's probably that too, 233 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: But these kids were self radicalized. That's all it takes. 234 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: It just takes a couple Internet videos and an ideology 235 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: and a feeling that they live in an oppressive system 236 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: egged on by leftists like the guy who had the 237 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: bomb chucked over his head. That completely vindicates their victim. 238 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, another way we've become vulnerable. Remember, for example, throughout 239 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: the Biden administration, they repurposed the FBI and DHS to 240 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: say the chief terror threat is white dudes who go 241 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 4: to Latin mass and so they wouldn't investigate this sort 242 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: of thing, just like they wouldn't they wouldn't want to 243 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: police the border so anyone could come in over the 244 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 4: border with Chinese espionage. They shut down their China Espionage 245 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 4: probe because too many of the people they were investigating 246 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: were Chinese, and it felt kind of racist to do. 247 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: That felt really awkward. And that's the decision we've made 248 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: over and over and over again that we intentionally lobotomized ourselves. 249 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: We've intentionally made ourselves stupid to not notice the obvious, 250 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: to not observe the obvious, to not think the obvious. 251 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 4: And I think a lot of us might think, oh, well, 252 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 4: we'll just avoid saying something because it's impolite, but everyone 253 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: knows it. But for a lot of people, if you 254 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: are not saying the obvious thing, they will stop thinking 255 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: the obvious thing. In this case, the obvious thing being 256 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: Islam as a religion has way more violent radicals than 257 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: any other major religion, and when you welcome them into 258 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: the West in huge numbers, this results in terrorist attacks 259 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: that kill kill a lot of people. But even if 260 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: they aren't killing a huge amount, they just totally distort life. 261 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: Think about all of the public events where you have 262 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 4: all of this security theater that you used to not need. 263 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: Think about all these events where oh, you have all 264 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: these ballards and these vehicles everywhere to make sure that 265 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: some vehicle can't drive in and kill a bunch of people. 266 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: And then you go to a country that doesn't have 267 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: this level of migration and they don't have those things 268 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: because they don't need those things. 269 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and that's the sectarian violence that has ravaged 270 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: the Old world has now come to the New World 271 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: by immigration, and it's something we didn't need to do. 272 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: Two seventy six though, this is one of the New 273 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: York City terrorists home in Pennsylvania. It's a one point 274 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: eight million dollar, five bedroom, four bath, forty seven hundred 275 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: square foot mansion. It's almost forty eight hundred and yet 276 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: these young men were still so radicalized and so put 277 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: upon by a protest, which is the most American thing. 278 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: You may not like what mister Lang was doing, the 279 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: anti Islam protest in New York City, but that is 280 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: as American as apple pie. And these foreigners come in 281 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: and they throw bombs at them, and guess who the 282 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: press defends the bomb throwers, the Islamists, and they call 283 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: Jake langd supremacists and a bigot for doing exactly what 284 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: the founders intended, which is to peacefully protest. But the 285 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: foreigners didn't. 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Gabriel Victal's 312 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: Frontline tposa photojournalist and bo Alford Frontlines tposa reporter. Both 313 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: of them were in New York City over the weekend. Gentlemen, 314 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you're safe. 315 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 4: Gabe. 316 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: Let's start with you. It's your first time, I believe, 317 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: on the show. Apologizes. 318 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 7: Thank you for having me. 319 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, thank you for making the time here. 320 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: Tell us what you saw. How close were you to 321 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: this incident and late layout, kind of the dynamic between 322 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: the two sides. 323 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, of course, well, both the sides. You know, the 324 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 7: leftist side specifically was already very rowdy and violent prior 325 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 7: to the situation with the bomb there. But you know, 326 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 7: Bo and I were right next to each other, and 327 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 7: we were what I would say, a couple yards away, 328 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 7: a couple feet away, even from the incident happening. Yeah, 329 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 7: you can see some of the footage there of them 330 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 7: burning flags. They actually beat up another journalist after that 331 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 7: flag burning happened. They chased him out, you know, saying 332 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 7: that he was a Zionist, yelling at him. They ended 333 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 7: up punching him, kicking. 334 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: Him down on the ground. 335 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that footage right there. It was a very 336 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 7: hostile environment to say the least, and it seemed like, 337 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 7: these people wanted nothing but trouble, and that's you know 338 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 7: what ended up happening later with the Muslim who committed 339 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 7: an act of herosm and thank god that bomb did 340 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 7: not go off. 341 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, Bo, give us your perspective of what happened. 342 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: And do we know where these people came from? Were 343 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: they New Yorkers? Did you get that vibe or would 344 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: they shipped in from somewhere else? And they're paid agitators? 345 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: What could you surmise? 346 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 9: Yeah? 347 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 10: Absolutely, I would start by saying these were not regular 348 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 10: everyday protesters. These aren't people that are just coming in 349 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 10: and holding signs. This is a lot more violent of 350 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 10: a crowd. I actually texted my wife when I got there. 351 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 10: I was like, honey, this is a little bit different. 352 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 10: There's a lot of aggression. There's a lot of people 353 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 10: getting hurt, attacked, and just you know, say a prayer 354 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 10: for me. I do believe that the Antifa crowd did 355 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 10: play a part in fueling this attack. They were just 356 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 10: attacking anyone that they disagreed with. It was only God's 357 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 10: grace that got us out untouched. Thankfully we were not recognized, 358 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 10: or we probably would have been one of the people 359 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 10: getting attacked as well. But yeah, when the bombing happened, 360 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 10: we were, or the attempted bombing happened, we were probably 361 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 10: fifty twenty to thirty feet away. And I was actually 362 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 10: posting another video because for getting everything in real time, 363 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 10: and I just hear everyone screaming bomb and they're running away, 364 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 10: and then I see the brave NYPD actually going into 365 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 10: the scene and thankfully taking the man down. 366 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 2: Jeez. So, so there was anti Muslim protesters on one side, 367 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: and then there were I guess pro Muslim protesters. I mean, 368 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: did it did it seem like the pro Muslim or 369 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: the counter protesters, however you want to describe them. Were 370 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: they Was it mostly Muslims or was it mostly sort 371 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: of just like kind of leftists Antifa types. 372 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 7: It was definitely like the Antifa types. It was definitely 373 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 7: some white New Yorkers. I would probably say a lot 374 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 7: of that. You know, New Yorkers are very they go 375 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 7: hard in the paint, a lot of them are very 376 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 7: aggressive when it comes to, you know, their beliefs, and 377 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 7: it seemed like, you know, and bo correct me if 378 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 7: I'm wrong, but this is on par with Minneapolis Antifa. 379 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 7: When we really went in there and we saw, I 380 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 7: mean right as we got out of our uber to 381 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 7: show up to this event, there was a kid with 382 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 7: a freedom shirt getting berated and it was it was 383 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 7: instant like. Right as we showed up, we saw some 384 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 7: kid get chased out and it just gave me flashbacks 385 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 7: to Minneapolis. 386 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 387 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 10: Absolutely, these were white leftists that were coming here to 388 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 10: kill Jake Lang. 389 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 11: And I'm not. 390 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 10: Exaggerating when I say that. You could hear multiple of 391 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 10: the member saying kill Jake Lang. They were doing everything 392 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 10: they could to get to him. They were trying to 393 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 10: cross the barricades when he ran away from the attempted bombing. 394 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 10: The leftists then went to the other side to try 395 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 10: and cut him off. They were doing everything in their 396 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 10: power to kill him. 397 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 4: What kind of role were police playing through all of this? 398 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 4: Do you think they were mostly being helpful preventing violence 399 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: where they sort of useless Give us a sense of 400 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: how NYPD was behaving throughout this. 401 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, the police were actually very helpful. I do have 402 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 10: to say they as soon as something went down, if 403 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 10: you saw someone getting attacked, they stepped in and they 404 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 10: tried to stop it. They were actually getting very angry 405 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 10: at multiple times and were chasing people down, using profanities 406 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 10: and you know, trying to get them arrested. So they 407 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 10: were very helpful. Only thing I would say is they 408 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 10: were a little bit too far away at times, took 409 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 10: them a little bit too long to get to the scene. 410 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 10: But at the end of the day, I understand it. 411 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 10: You have to let the two sides demonstrate, and you 412 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 10: can't help it. Some of the leftist members are it's 413 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 10: aggressive as they were. 414 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is probably the most helpful NYPD has ever 415 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 7: been while we've been in New York. We've gone to 416 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 7: a lot calmer protests in New York, and they always 417 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 7: are on the side of the liberals, it seems. But 418 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 7: you know, on that day they were one hundred percent 419 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 7: trying to keep on on order, and you know a 420 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 7: lot of those police officers are absolute patriots for what 421 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 7: they did on that day. 422 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're just like you said, Gabe, we're just 423 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: lucky that those bombs didn't detonate. I mean, because that 424 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: could have killed a lot of people. I mean, they're 425 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: Another question I have though, is how old were the 426 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: age of the protest? Was it all over, was it 427 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: skewing younger, skewing. 428 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 7: Older, definitely younger. Definitely on the younger side for this one. 429 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 7: I know that some of them have some of them 430 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 7: were probably in their like later twenties, but a lot 431 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 7: of them seem to be around that, you know, teenage 432 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 7: to mid twenties range about the age of Bow and I. 433 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: Any so, any idea how they organized? You're just assuming 434 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: this is Antifa networks. 435 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say Antifa networks, and I would also 436 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 10: probably say Reddit. I don't have anything to verify that information, 437 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 10: but I do see leftists gathering on Reddit, in threads 438 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 10: and in communities. That would be if I were a 439 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 10: guessing man, that would be what I would say. 440 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if you gave if you're going to 441 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: chime in. I have a question though about Jake Laying 442 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: and the sort of the the protesters on that side, 443 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: what what were they doing? What were they saying? Were 444 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: they instigating as well or were they just kind of 445 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 2: I mean, as far as I could tell, they were 446 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: just in front of the Gracie Mansion saying stop the 447 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 2: Islamification of New York. Did they what did they instigate anything? 448 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 10: Definitely not at the event where Antifa showed up. I 449 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 10: mean there were times do not get me wrong. You 450 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 10: could say you're instigating when you know you're using a 451 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 10: goat like he did the night before, that I would 452 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 10: say is instigation. But during this event, no, I think 453 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 10: that they were being very peaceful and the people that 454 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 10: were supporting Jake Lang, all they were doing was saying 455 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 10: freedom and you know, just supporting American values. 456 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: What happened with a goat the night before? If you 457 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 2: can use PG language just in case. 458 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, he was pretending to have relations with a goat 459 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 7: the night before. He pulled up in a U haul, 460 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 7: opened the door. You know, he had an American flag 461 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 7: and he was he was basically mocking the Muslims, which 462 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 7: you know, some may say it's funny, some may say 463 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 7: it's crude, but that seems to be a lot of 464 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 7: the stuff that the leftist The next day at the 465 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 7: protests where the attempted bombing occurred, they were actually yelling 466 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 7: at you know, they were calling him names I probably 467 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 7: shouldn't say on the show. 468 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: Got it. So you think the incident the night before 469 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: could have been what maybe triggered some of the backlash. 470 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: Do we know if that's where these young I mean, 471 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: it's crazy how young the would be terrorists. Are I 472 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: guess they are terrorists. They tried they they're like eighteen 473 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: and twenty, I believe, or eighteen and nineteen. 474 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 9: Uh. 475 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: Both both have parents that were naturalized from Middle Eastern 476 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: countries Afghanistan and Turkey. Is there any indication did you 477 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: see those suspects around before they threw the IEDs or 478 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: did they just kind of came out of nowhere? 479 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, not that we recognized at least. 480 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's actually a really good point. They were not 481 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 10: someone that I recognized unless they were wearing masks before 482 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 10: those They appeared to be individuals that came later in 483 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 10: the protest, probably for that specific reason. 484 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: Well, gentlemen, I'm just glad you're safe. That that could 485 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: have been really bad. I mean, we always are praying 486 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: for you guys, our TPOSA front lines team, and you 487 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: know it, just thank god that those bombs didn't detonate. 488 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: That's all I can say. Thank you for your first 489 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: sound account, gentlemen. Brave, brave guys here that are doing 490 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: the Lord's work capturing these these protests and counter protests 491 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: live on the street. So thank you, guys. We'll talk 492 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 2: to you soon. Thank you so much. 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Today again that's eight three three 515 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: eight five zero two two two nine, or click on 516 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: the preborn banner at Charliekirk dot com. Gotta get to this, 517 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: Gotta get two stories here in this segment. One is 518 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: another Arizona story. It looks like our wonderful governor here 519 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: in the state of Arizona has vetoed a bill that 520 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: would have added a Turning Point USA license plate to 521 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: a list of about one hundred other license plates that 522 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: Arizona drivers could opt into willingly. Okay, So the way 523 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: it works is there are specialty license plates. You opt 524 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: in to pay an additional seventeen dollars, and then you 525 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: get a special license plate that pays homage to the 526 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: in this case, yes, Charlie and turning Point there for Charlie, 527 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: it says, And it's got the Turning Point logo and 528 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: a picture of Charlie actually with this picture right behind us, 529 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: with his hand and fist raised the air. And so 530 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: Governor Hobbs decided not to allow this license plate again 531 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: that would have been added to about one hundred other 532 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: causes that Arizona drivers could support. 533 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a Choose Life license plate, there's firefighter license plate, 534 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: there's a Fiestable license plate. There's a God Bless America 535 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: one that's not actually what I have. There's an Alice 536 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 4: Cooper one, there's a Root sixty six ones, there's. 537 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: A lot and by the way, so when you do this, 538 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 2: it's a voluntary This is not like taxpayer dollars are 539 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: getting siphoned off the general fund and sent to Turning Point. 540 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: It's a voluntary seventeen dollars contribution that would go to 541 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: Turning Point, just like when you do the other ones. 542 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: They there's a small fee that gets sent to whatever 543 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: cause you're celebrating. But instead of allowing Turning Point to 544 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: be one of those one hundred plus groups that you 545 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: could do that in the state of Arizona for an 546 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: organization that's based here in Arizona, Charlie decided to make 547 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: Arizona's home. He worked his butt off for this state, 548 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: loved this state. Every time we'd come back to Arizona, 549 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: charge I love coming back, I love coming home. And 550 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: this was his home and this is where Erica's home is. 551 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: Governor Hobbs vetoed it because she. 552 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 4: Said, in America, we resolve our political differences at the 553 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: ballot box. No matter who it targets. Political violence, it's 554 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 4: us all in harm's way, and damages are sacred democratic institutions. 555 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 4: I will continue working towards solutions that bring people together, 556 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: but this bill falls short of that standard by inserting 557 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: politics into a function of government that should remain non partisan. 558 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: Okay, sure, I find this obviously highly offensive that a 559 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: son of Arizona. Yeah, he came from Chicago, but this 560 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: was the home he chose. A son of Arizona who 561 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: was murdered in cold blood, taken down by political violence 562 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: and assassination, the most public and tragic in a generation 563 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: or more. And she has the gall to stop the 564 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: legislature stop the people of Arizona from honoring him in 565 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: his legacy. Shame on you, Governor Hobbs. I can't wait 566 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: till Andy Biggs's our governor and we get to do it. 567 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 4: It's just truly grotesque because if they had passed one 568 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: to honor, like, you know, if there was some odious, 569 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 4: like borderline criminal person who got killed in Arizona and 570 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 4: it became the left wing caused celeb and they passed 571 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 4: that license plate. She would sign it in a hard 572 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 4: she would absolutely do it. But because we had a 573 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 4: person on the right who was grotesquely murdered by someone 574 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 4: on the left for his advocacy, and someone just wanted 575 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 4: to make a license plate that you could voluntarily pay 576 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 4: for the right to use, and she vetos it. And 577 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: the obvious answer is because she despises Charlie, and deep 578 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: down I suspect she's kind of. 579 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: Glad he got shot. It's dark stuff. 580 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 4: A lot of them are, yeah, And so of course 581 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: she was going to veto it. We shouldn't be surprised 582 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: at all, because that's the type of person. 583 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 9: Yes. 584 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: Can you imagine if George Floyd was an Aeraga exactly, 585 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: that's what a George Floyd would have got a license 586 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: plate in the estate Hobbs would have signed that. And 587 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think deep down she despises 588 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: Charlie and she may very well be happy that what happened. 589 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't put anything past these degenerate people. 590 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: It's just it's inexcusably cruel to veto that that bill. 591 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: So shame on you, Governor Hobbes and uh yeah, just disgusting. 592 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: But let's get to James Talrico. 593 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 4: Alrighty, so we have this is not even so much 594 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: about James Talerico. It's it's an opportunity to beat up 595 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 4: on David French. 596 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: By the way, that that's Blake's favorite pastime. 597 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, so I believe Charlie only met David French once. 598 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 4: I was with him, and it was pretty respect. 599 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: Nrb SO a National Religious Broadcasters event. We were on 600 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: the expo floor, just walking the floor and there comes 601 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: David French and it was respectful, it was. And then 602 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: I talked to David French after for a little while. 603 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: He's very effeminate man in person, I believe it. But 604 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 2: he has this appalling bit that he ran over the weekend. 605 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: He's now a New York Times opinion columnist, which is, 606 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: you know, fulfilling his dreams. And it was titled James 607 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: Tallerico is a Christian x ray And unfortunately I can't 608 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: I'm not a New York Times subscriber, and I can't 609 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: get the whole article to load right now in my But. 610 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: What's the heywall bypastor? But it was basically that James 611 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 4: Tower col Rico is one of the few openly Christian 612 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: politicians in the United States who acts like a Christian, 613 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: and by acting like a Christian, he reveals a profound 614 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 4: contrast with so many members of the Maga Christian movement 615 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 4: that has dominated political life for ten years. And he 616 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 4: goes off on a bit where he does this whole 617 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 4: thing on Okay, you know there's Christian orthodoxy, which is, 618 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 4: you know, right beliefs, but we don't put enough emphasis 619 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 4: on I believe he called it ortho cardia. I don't 620 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 4: even know if that's a real word, but it basically 621 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 4: means right heart. And so he says that James tall 622 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 4: Rico has the right heart, that he has the fruits 623 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 4: of the spirit. Actually is what he says. That you 624 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 4: see tall Rico and he's so obviously kind and loving 625 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 4: and Christian, and he basically just I don't think he 626 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 4: literally says it, but the clear message is James Tallerco 627 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 4: is the best Christian in American politics right now. And 628 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 4: that's really galling to me because, Okay, if he was 629 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 4: just a left wing social Democrat, like if he said, oh, 630 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 4: I disagree with my party on a lot of things, 631 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 4: but like I have to be on the left for 632 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 4: you know, you've seen the reasons. I would be extremely disappointed, 633 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: but I'd vaguely get it. But there's something really unsettling 634 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 4: with Tallerco. Tall Rico is a true left wing zealot, 635 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 4: and the fact that he dresses up, dressed it up 636 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 4: in Christianity is what makes him more sinister, not less sinister. 637 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 4: That he goes to the Bible and says, actually, the Bible, 638 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 4: the text of the Bible says that we need abortion 639 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 4: and we can't restrict it. The text of the Bible 640 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 4: is why I believe it's good for us to mutilate 641 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 4: children because of some fad. The text of the Bible 642 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 4: is why I think I believe what did he say? 643 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: White people are a virus? No, we carry a virus 644 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 4: that the white race as a cast carries this virus 645 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 4: that they infect the world with. 646 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: Here's a new little uh, James tall Rico video that 647 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 2: Brandon Gill unearthed two ninety five. 648 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: Something that you love that's not family or friends. 649 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 9: I love. And I'm just saying this because it's on 650 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 9: my mind. The trans children who showed. 651 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 3: Up yesterday at the state capital to advocate. 652 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 9: For their humanity. 653 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: They shouldn't have to, but it was an inspiration to 654 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: watch who do you love that's not your friends or family? 655 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 4: And we love trans children. That's why we don't want 656 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 4: them to be literally, irreversibly messed up. 657 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 2: That's not what he's saying. 658 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 4: And yeah, that's definitely not what he's saying. 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Robert, 686 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 2: welcome back. 687 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, glad to be here. 688 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: Great to see you. You have emerged as as a 689 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: very strident voice online political commentator that is not in 690 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: favor of the strikes that are happening in Iran. Why 691 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 2: don't you give us your perspective because you are a 692 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 2: Maga guy in a lot of ways. You have been 693 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 2: part of this coalition, a big support of the president's 694 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: but you are not in support of this war. It's 695 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: important that we hear this side of the argument, what 696 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: is your perspective on it and why are you against it? 697 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 12: So I see it as a threefold approach. One is 698 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 12: the domestic political risk that it poses to the Trump 699 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 12: twenty twenty four coalition going forward in terms of political 700 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 12: capital to get things done on the hill, but also 701 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 12: in terms of the midterms and in ultimately twenty twenty eight. 702 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 3: The second area of concern is. 703 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 12: Geopolitical, and that was how likely are we able to 704 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 12: achieve an objective that would be favorable to American interest 705 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 12: and would be perceived as favorable to American interest going forward? 706 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 12: And then third is whether or not this is use 707 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 12: of our military that is constitutional, that is clearly legal 708 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 12: and lawful, and that won't put our men, men and 709 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 12: women undo risk of harm for a unachievable objective. So 710 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 12: from the domestic political side, I just think it fractures 711 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 12: the Trump twenty twenty four base. It shrinks MAGA more 712 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 12: than more people are not identifying as MAGA. That's why 713 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 12: you can get I think Richard Barris calls people's pundit, 714 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 12: calls it purification through subtraction. So Trump may look at 715 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 12: it and say, oh, I have ninety percent support, but 716 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 12: it's of a shrinking base. That's not a good situation 717 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 12: to be in politically in terms of domestic political capital 718 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 12: to get things done on the hill, but also in 719 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 12: terms of the midterms. And there was a big part 720 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 12: of his base that was anti war. There's another part 721 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 12: of his base that's libertarian that leans non intervention. Since 722 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 12: twenty fifteen, he's campaigned very effectively is the peace president 723 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 12: the anti war candidate. This undermines and sabotages that entire 724 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 12: public perception and thereby impairs his coalition from an electoral 725 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 12: perspective and political capital. 726 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 3: That was the degree to which he has seen is. 727 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 12: Unpopular on the hill limits his ability get things done legislatively. 728 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 12: The But then you go to the geopolitics of it, 729 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 12: and it's for all the reasons and the military side 730 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 12: of it that Charlie identified last year that you dig 731 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 12: into this, it's unlikely that a regime a we can 732 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,479 Speaker 12: attain a peaceful, free Iranian society and government UH through 733 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 12: bombing them into such an agreement. And so as he 734 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 12: pointed out that you know that the Shia are built 735 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 12: on a culture of suffering, it's it's you know, the 736 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 12: Charlie was very good at developing strategic empathy, and people 737 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 12: sometimes confuse that with sympathy. It's you you don't sympathize 738 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 12: with the Iranian regime, you can strategically empathize with it 739 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 12: so that you understand it. And if you understand the 740 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 12: culture and the people and the people in power, but 741 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 12: also the people that could contest or challenge that power, 742 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 12: then you have a sense of how probable or likely 743 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 12: a sequence of events are using military or martial means. 744 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 12: And what Charlie identified is that they have the they 745 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 12: have the means to militarily resist uh ways that we 746 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 12: cannot completely suppress. That they're unlikely to change their regime 747 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 12: because the part of the Shia is a lot making. 748 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 12: Charlie love to study religions around the world and understand 749 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 12: what motivated people around the world. But the Shia Islam 750 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 12: religion is built on martyrdom, it's built on suffering, it's 751 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 12: built on sacrifice. 752 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 3: That's why the Iatola was happy. 753 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 12: To be martyred at the beginning of this conflict, and 754 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 12: he's now been replaced by his son, his son who 755 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 12: is more This is one of the points Charlie made 756 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 12: that you got to look at who is likely to 757 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 12: replace the existing regime. 758 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 3: And there you look at who is likely to replace him. 759 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 12: Well, it's more hardliners, people that are more likely to 760 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 12: acquire nuclear weapons rather than less, more likely to be 761 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 12: anti US and anti Israel than less. The new Io 762 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 12: new iotola just had the Americans in the Israelis kill 763 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 12: his father, kill his mother, kill his wife, kill his son, 764 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 12: and kill his niece, one year old niece. So what's 765 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 12: the likelihood he's going to be really pro American? Unlikely, 766 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 12: He's known as more of a heart liner, et cetera. 767 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 12: So then you have the So that's you know, scenario 768 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 12: number one is that it's unlikely to achieve a peaceful, free, democratic, 769 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 12: pro Israel pro US regime. So why are we risking 770 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 12: American resources? Why are we risking American men and women? 771 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 12: Why are we risking Trump's domestic political coalition in his 772 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 12: political capital. 773 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I guess I feel like there's a lot 774 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 4: of disagreement over how much of how much it is 775 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 4: splitting the coalition. Because you can produce polls that say 776 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 4: support for the war among GOP voters is very high. 777 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 4: I've seen those. But I think I think people are 778 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 4: missing is that this matters the most with that sort 779 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 4: of that marginal maybe that last ten percent of the 780 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 4: Trump coalition that got him to where he yeah, where 781 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 4: he was winning all the swing states, where he was 782 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 4: winning the popular vote. It was the people where that 783 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 4: oh peace, president, no new war, that stuff appealed to 784 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 4: them a lot more. And I think that a lot 785 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 4: of when people disagree with this, they're missing that. That's 786 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 4: the group that and they're also the most marginal. They 787 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 4: were less least likely to respond to polls, and they're 788 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 4: more attached. They maybe weren't voting another election. Young people 789 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 4: and young people and young people. 790 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 2: So I, Robert, you and I talked on the phone 791 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 2: and I had we had these students from Rutgers and 792 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 2: Appalachian State, and we asked them what do young Trump 793 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: voters think of this? And here was their answers three 794 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 2: h six copy. So are you seeing protests? Are you 795 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 2: seeing are people gathering in the in the square, in 796 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 2: the quad? What kind of activities are you seeing this 797 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 2: manifest in? 798 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 11: I'm mostly seeing things through online platforms, people on Instagram 799 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 11: or Twitter, just you know, really going in at President 800 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 11: Trump and being upset that you know, gas prices might 801 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 11: go up and forever war, like, people really really do 802 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 11: not want boots on the ground in this circumstance. 803 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 4: Are you seeing that even from people that you know 804 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 4: voted for Trump in twenty twenty four or is it 805 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 4: more is it still mostly from people you know would 806 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 4: be left wing? 807 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 11: Regardless, I think the idea of starting a new foreign 808 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 11: war is really even for Trump voters, really deterring people 809 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 11: from wanting to align with the administration and their actions. 810 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 2: So even amongst Trump voters, and then the other gal 811 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: that was on said the same thing at her university. 812 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 2: So the youth vote came plus thirteen percent in our direction, 813 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 2: which is a huge swing, historic swing. And this seems 814 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 2: to indicate that we are in jeopardy, if not already 815 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: before that with some of the Epstein stuff, the Midnight 816 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: Hammer stuff of alienating that those new additions to the 817 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: coalition already. 818 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly to your point. I mean, you guys are 819 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 12: be on top of it more than others. I remember 820 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 12: watching that the live that the Young Generation, the new 821 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 12: MAGA part of the coalition, A lot of them were 822 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 12: African American male voters, Hispanic voters, and young people did 823 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 12: disproportionately millennials and zoomers that joined the Trump coalition in 824 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 12: twenty twenty four that weren't part of it before. That 825 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 12: boosted us from being minus four to plus one in 826 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 12: the national vote. That allowed for the sweep of the 827 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 12: swing states, That allowed for some coattails in the House 828 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 12: and the Senate to have the House in the Senate. 829 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 12: So that's what's a danger of losing. Young voters do 830 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 12: not support this conflict. They don't want us involved in 831 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 12: foreign conflicts period. So the sooner the president can bring 832 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 12: us home, the better. Similar and then the other vote 833 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 12: is though the historic any war vote disproportionately in rule 834 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 12: and working class areas in the industrial and ruled Midwest, 835 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 12: and amongst Hispanic voters in the Southwest, which were bleeding 836 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 12: out badly as we saw from the Texas primary results, 837 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 12: and then the Libertarian vote, and it's just you can't 838 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 12: cut off this many parts of your coalition and survive. 839 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 2: We set out the stakes here. Politically, this is fraut. 840 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 2: I think Blake and I were talking earlier this morning. 841 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 2: The longer this drags on, the more fraud it becomes. 842 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 2: The more there is an oil supply shock, then it's 843 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 2: gonna become even more painful. Right, oil was up at 844 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 2: like I think one hundred and ten dollars, it's come 845 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 2: back down under one hundreds and last time I checked it. 846 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 2: But this, it's no doubt this has political ramifications. I 847 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 2: think Matt Walsh was the one who said it that 848 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: if we you know, bombed iron and we achieved our 849 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 2: missional objective there and yet we lost the presidency or 850 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 2: the midterms, it wouldn't be worth it to him. Okay, 851 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 2: this is this is a series of impossible decisions. What 852 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: needs to happen and how quickly Robert Barnes for this 853 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 2: to come out as good as it possibly could be. 854 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the first part is, you know, declare 855 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 12: victory and leaf. The president did that with the Hooties 856 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 12: when we didn't quite achieve the original objective, but he realized. 857 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 3: That it was unlikely to be achieved. So he's just 858 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 3: declared victory and left. 859 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 12: Vice President Vance has been giving the President an off 860 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 12: ramp all the way through. Say, look, the real focus 861 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 12: of this was always about nuclear weapons, not about regime change, 862 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 12: not about dictating to Iran it's next supreme leader, not 863 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 12: about any of the things that other people like Lindsay 864 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 12: Graham want to drag the president into doing. One thing 865 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,959 Speaker 12: I would recommend is just have Lindsay Graham off the air. 866 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 12: Him running around saying, let's Robert. I keep saying the 867 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 12: exact same thing. If you follow me on X. 868 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 2: I've just been like, get this guy away from the 869 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: freaking microphone for the love. He's like frothing at the mouth. 870 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 2: He's like, anyways, continue, I cut you off. 871 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 3: Please. 872 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, And you know, to remind people out there, you know, 873 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,439 Speaker 12: Charlie says if we did anything, we need to defeat 874 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 12: Lindsay Graham in the primary. You got two good candidates 875 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 12: running there, Mark Lynch and Paul Dans. So I highly 876 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 12: recommend that whichever candidate you like, but just we gotta 877 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 12: have Lindsay Graham out of there. He's a walking, talking 878 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 12: disaster pr wise for the president but also policy wise. 879 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 3: So I think, you know, take J. D. 880 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 12: Manz's recommended the declare victory, say the apparently we hit 881 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 12: several of the last remaining nuclear enrichment facilities, including the 882 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 12: new ones he took out the Ayatola. 883 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 3: Declare victory and go home, uh. 884 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 12: And get out as quickly as you can, because the 885 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 12: longer this drags on, as you know, the moreolitical risk 886 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 12: develops in the US, and the more geopolitical risk it 887 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 12: comes about in the Middle East. You know, if they 888 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 12: start hitting desalination plants, if they start keep that they 889 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 12: keep the straits before moves closed, not only do oil 890 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 12: and gas natural gas prices fight, but also you could 891 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 12: have a drought in a food crisis throughout the Gulf 892 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 12: States because they depend, many of them for the straits 893 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 12: of our moves to get access to their food. So 894 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 12: the people forget you know that it's all desert there 895 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 12: in the Gulf States. So that's why they rely on 896 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 12: desalination plants, including Israel. Does I think it's in Israel's 897 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 12: best interest that we get out of this quicker rather 898 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 12: than later, because who knows if Iran really thinks they're 899 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 12: under existential threat. 900 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 3: We don't want to know what they might do. They 901 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 3: might hit everything. 902 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 12: They might hit all the oil gas refinery places, they 903 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 12: might hit all the desalination plants, they might hit the 904 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 12: nuclear reactors. 905 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 9: Yeah. 906 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 2: I don't mean to cut you off again, but Blake 907 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 2: was springing up a point that apparently that was the 908 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 2: one line Lindsay Graham wasn't prepared to cross, was. 909 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 4: Please don't blow up all of their oil stuff, like 910 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 4: are going to need that after the war is over. 911 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 2: So even Lindsay Graham was chastising Israel for going after 912 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 2: the refineries, but yes, continue exactly. 913 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 12: So essentially there's just lots of exponential geopolitical risks that 914 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 12: this could get out of hand really fast. What if 915 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 12: Israel feels they're under existential threat? Do they use nuclear weapons? 916 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 12: Pakistan has said if they use nuclear weapons, Pakistan will 917 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 12: use nuclear weapons. So this is just you know, the 918 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 12: Midiast is a place that can quickly and easily, as 919 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 12: Charlie repeatedly reminded, people get out of control. You might 920 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 12: have the best and the temptation of any president is 921 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 12: to double down. 922 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 3: Uh don't. 923 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 12: Trump has always been brilliant and recognizing I'm in trouble. 924 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 3: Time to get out. 925 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 12: You know, people forget the sun Zoo principle, which is 926 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 12: when the enemy is stronger, you retreat. You don't walk 927 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 12: into a trap that gets you meyer down. That's the 928 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 12: mistake George W. Bush made, That's the mistake past politicians 929 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 12: have bit. 930 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 2: So Robert just to play devil's advocate here though you know, 931 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 2: President Trump has said he doesn't like the new Ayatola. 932 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 2: He's not happy with that. He said he wants to 933 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 2: be involved in the selection of the next leader, somebody 934 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,959 Speaker 2: that will be friendly with America. And he also said that, 935 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 2: you know, essentially he believes he needs to finish the 936 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 2: job because he doesn't trust future presidents to you know, 937 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 2: that they will do the right thing in the future. 938 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 2: He said, I don't want to be fighting them and 939 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 2: come back in five years or in ten years. Got 940 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 2: to get it done the right way. Now, how do 941 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 2: you balance those two things? Still declare a political and 942 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 2: a military victory. 943 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 12: I think the great gift of Trump is that he 944 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 12: can declare victory even when it's not apparent that by 945 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 12: his own standards he got it. That He's a brilliant salesman. 946 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 12: He's always been a brilliant salesman. So my advice the 947 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 12: president is just sell it. I think American people be 948 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 12: happy with that. Say, look, we took out the regime 949 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 12: that caused a lot of harm. Well, we took out 950 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 12: all their nuclear capacity, and on that basis, will be 951 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 12: satisfied for now, and then try to render. I think 952 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 12: it'll be tricky to re ender negotiations, but try to. 953 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 12: I think Otherwise, I just look as a risk reward ratio, 954 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 12: what's the probability you get that reward of a peaceful, free, 955 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 12: democratic Iran governed by someone other than the Supreme Leader 956 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 12: that is not driven by shea Islamic beliefs structure versus 957 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 12: what risk do you have to incur to try to 958 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 12: get that reward? I think the chance of that reward 959 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 12: is low. The Director of National Intelligence, Tulsa Gabbard, reported 960 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 12: that it was not likely to occur that military means 961 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 12: could achieve regime change. That can really only happen with 962 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 12: a complete cultural shift amongst the Iranian population, in particularly 963 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 12: Islamic population, And so that's part. How do you assess 964 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,399 Speaker 12: the probability of obtaining that objective? And then what risk 965 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 12: are you occruing? You're basically, as Matt Walsh pointed out, 966 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 12: even if he could obtain that reward, is it worth 967 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 12: sacrificing the entire Trump og MAGA twenty twenty four coalition? 968 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 12: Is it worth sacrificing the populist conservative realignment back to 969 00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 12: America's constitutional republic and religious roots? Is it worth risking 970 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 12: the Save Act? Is it worth risking all of his 971 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 12: domestic policy agenda? Is it worth risking being impeached in 972 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 12: twenty twenty seven with a Democratic House and a Democratic Senate. 973 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 3: My own view is, I. 974 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 12: Don't assess the reward probability is high, and I assess 975 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 12: the risk probability is very high. And so I think 976 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 12: the risk reward weigh out that ratio. I think it's 977 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 12: the best interest of the president. Maybe down the road 978 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 12: you can pursue that, but now is at the time, 979 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 12: given the risk that's accruing and the reward seems distant. 980 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 12: And I think if he shifts back to a domestic agenda. 981 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 12: Seventeen seventy six Law Center, we did a nationwide survey, 982 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 12: you know, get rid of all these immunity for big 983 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 12: pharma and these big agg and big companies and government 984 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 12: actors when they violate people's civil rights and civil liberties. 985 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 12: You know, impose tariffs, but take away the individual income 986 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 12: tax on ninety five percent of American households. 987 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 3: That was popular even with some Democrats. 988 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 12: There's all these popular populist policies he can pursue and 989 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 12: enforce in an act if he's not distracted or detoured 990 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 12: by a foreign war. So I think when you weigh 991 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 12: the risk reward ratio. I think it favors the president 992 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 12: finding an exit ramp as quickly and expeditiously as he 993 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 12: can so he can shift back to the domestic agenda 994 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 12: that can restore the coalition and at least mitigate the 995 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 12: harm that's coming in the midterm. 996 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 2: Robert barnes Well said, great perspective, Thank you, sir. We'll 997 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 2: have you on again soon. 998 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 4: The online world moves fast, and it's moving even faster 999 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 4: these days. That's why TikTok approaches teen safety with families 1000 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 4: in mind from the start, because discovery and creativity are 1001 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 4: both wonderful things, but it's important to make sure that 1002 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 4: safety comes first as well. On TikTok, teenagers have over 1003 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 4: fifty built in protections right from when they join. Accounts 1004 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 4: routines all start private by default, They're not open to 1005 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 4: the entire world, and for those under sixteen, direct messages 1006 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 4: are turned off. 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Learn 1016 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 4: more by going to TikTok dot com slash guardians Guide. 1017 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 4: That's TikTok dot com slash guardians Guide. 1018 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show, John Solomon, you have a 1019 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 2: blockbuster report out on just thenews dot com today out 1020 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,280 Speaker 2: of Americopa County. Tell us the detail, sir. 1021 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 13: Yeah, So, just a month after the FBI rated Fulton 1022 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 13: County or in Atlanta area and Georgia to look at 1023 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 13: the twenty twenty ballots there, they did something a little different. 1024 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 13: They did a grand jury subpoenas secretly to get about 1025 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,320 Speaker 13: tens of tons of terabytes large amount about forty terabytes 1026 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 13: of data from Maricopa County. Now they didn't do it 1027 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 13: to Maricopa County. They did it to the Arizona Senate. 1028 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 13: It was secretly done so that Maricopa County wouldn't know, 1029 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 13: But the Senate is confirming today that they did in 1030 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 13: fact turn over election data from many elections going back 1031 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 13: to at least twenty twenty and through twenty twenty four. 1032 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 13: This is the second major metropolitan area where there's always 1033 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 13: been questions about voting integrity now to be targeted by 1034 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 13: the FBI. It's a really big moment, very different tactics 1035 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,919 Speaker 13: voting county, very high profile search warrant in a raid. 1036 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 13: This one more surreptitious, behind the scenes grand jury subpoena 1037 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 13: going to a third party that had custody of the 1038 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 13: Maricopa County election data. 1039 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,359 Speaker 2: So this is twenty twenty four, not twenty twenty or 1040 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 2: even twenty twenty. 1041 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,280 Speaker 13: I think they go all the way back to twenty twenty. 1042 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 13: It's twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, and twenty twenty four. 1043 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 13: That's what my sources are telling me. So they're looking 1044 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 13: at a broad swath of election county. It might even 1045 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 13: go back before twenty twenty, but I'm certain of twenty twenty, 1046 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,439 Speaker 13: twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty four, it's a very 1047 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,479 Speaker 13: large amount of data. 1048 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 2: Was there a inciting incident here? Was there something that 1049 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 2: triggered the grand jury in the first place? 1050 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 13: So a few weeks ago or actually, a couple few 1051 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 13: months ago, Congressman Abhammaday wrote a very important letter saying, Hey, 1052 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 13: Congressional monitors that were sent from the House Administration Committee 1053 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 13: back in twenty twenty four went and visited a warehouse 1054 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 13: and they saw some unusual commingling or what they thought 1055 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 13: was unusual commingling of unused ballots, blank ballots and filled 1056 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 13: out ballots, ballots that people had voted with. These are 1057 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 13: all paper because Arizona's a predominantly paper voting state. That 1058 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 13: report got flagged by multiple people. The FBI looked at it, 1059 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 13: thought it was unusual, and that began a look at 1060 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 13: Maricopa County. And now, because of the nature of data 1061 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 13: that the Arizona Senate had, they get a large swath 1062 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 13: that goes back many years, at least to twenty twenty. 1063 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 13: I bet it goes back even before that. And I 1064 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 13: think what you know if you go back and you 1065 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 13: look at the clips, is that Maricopa County's had lots 1066 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,760 Speaker 13: of problems with trust and competence for a long time. 1067 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 13: In the early two thousands. It was the Democrats who 1068 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 13: were complaining about it. Then starting in twenty President Trump 1069 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 13: and A. Pammaday and Kerry Lake and others raise concerns, 1070 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 13: but there's been basically a decade or two of concern 1071 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 13: about Maricopa County vote counting vote procedures, and the FBI 1072 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 13: now is diving in. And the important thing here to 1073 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 13: understand is while state law and state legislatures set the 1074 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,919 Speaker 13: rules for election, that's what the Constitution allows for. If 1075 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 13: a state or a county or an election locality doesn't 1076 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 13: follow the state law in the administration of a federal election, 1077 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 13: it can become a federal crime. And as we saw 1078 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 13: in the Fulton County search warn affidavit, that is the predicate, 1079 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 13: at least for Georgia, that the FBI is using to 1080 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 13: do the criminal investigation there. 1081 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 2: So you have said that this is the second kind 1082 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 2: of shoe to drop, but there's more that we should 1083 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 2: expect to be coming down the pipe. 1084 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 13: I think that's right based on what I've heard from 1085 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 13: my sources, both in the Justice Department, the FBI, and 1086 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 13: in the election community. There are some other states where 1087 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 13: there've always been questions about ballots and counting and rule changes. 1088 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 13: And I think as comprehensive as you've seen Harmeat Dilon 1089 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 13: go after the dirty voter rolls and try to force 1090 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 13: the clean up of those dirty voter rolls. I think 1091 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 13: they're the twenty eight states that have some sort of 1092 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 13: compelled action from the Justice Department. I think the FBI 1093 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 13: is doing something similar, taking a look at some places 1094 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 13: where there's enough evidence to suggest that maybe the state 1095 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 13: laws weren't being followed, or there was chaos or incompetence, 1096 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 13: or maybe some nefarious behavior. I think other states will follow. 1097 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 13: I'm told that they're looking at at least five locations. 1098 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 13: I don't know the other three yet. I can make 1099 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 13: some guesses, but I think at the end of the day, 1100 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 13: Maricopa is round two. But I do think there'll be 1101 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 13: around three, four and five somewhere else in the country 1102 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 13: before this is all done. 1103 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to make you speculate here, but 1104 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 2: I mean I bet Blake could pick three other cities. 1105 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 13: If I bet he could, he knows it better than I. 1106 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 2: I'm just going to suggest here Blake would check my math. 1107 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 3: Here. 1108 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 2: Milwaukee, we had a real close Senate election to twenty 1109 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 2: twenty four, that one of those late night flips with 1110 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 2: Hobda Hobdy, and then we have Detroit. Those classic images 1111 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 2: from twenty twenty and then putting up the cardboard and 1112 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 2: then Philadelphia. 1113 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 13: You hearing really good guesses based on what we yeah, 1114 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 13: and let's remember there's a couple other little pieces here 1115 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 13: that aren't well known by everyday Americans. But in Michigan, 1116 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 13: the FBI received evidence from the Michigan State Police in 1117 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 13: the late twenty twenty that they had found these this 1118 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 13: voter mill what they basically call the ballot mill up 1119 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 13: in Mistus, I believe it was, and the Michigan State 1120 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 13: Police believed it was one of seven locations around the 1121 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 13: country where these things were going on, and they believe 1122 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 13: they found fake registration data and fake voter ballot requests there, 1123 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 13: and they referred it to the FBI. Unfortunately, the Chris 1124 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 13: Ray FBI doesn't appear to have very aggressively investigated that. 1125 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 13: But I think that the Michigan makes a lot of 1126 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 13: sense because the FBI has some prior documentation that came 1127 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 13: in from Michigan State Police. Cash Purtel recently found that data, 1128 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 13: and I know his team are looking at that right now. 1129 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 2: So John, am I right to presume that sometimes there 1130 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 2: you may not get actual evidence of out outright voter fraud, 1131 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 2: But they're they're moving in on sort of process crimes, right, 1132 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 2: so they where there's smoke, there's fire, they're kind of there. 1133 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 2: They're finding what they can charge these local officials with. 1134 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think, and again I don't think they're there 1135 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 13: to say, let's find we have a name, let's hang 1136 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 13: a charge on it. 1137 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 9: That's what the Democrats did to Donald Trump. 1138 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 13: I think what they're looking at is, hey, enough people 1139 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 13: provided visual or or paper evidence that the rules weren't 1140 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 13: followed in these states. 1141 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 9: And it turns out that that's a federal crime. 1142 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 13: And if it was intentional, meaning if someone intentionally didn't 1143 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 13: follow the rules, they knew that what they were doing 1144 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 13: was wrong and they just simply didn't follow it, that 1145 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 13: people can be prosecuted under I think it's Section one 1146 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 13: fifty two of the federal statutes. And so that's what 1147 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 13: the FBI agent in the affidavit described. 1148 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 9: And so you see. 1149 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 13: Places where listen in Wisconsin, we all know that after 1150 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 13: the fact, the Wisconsin Supreme Court rule that one of 1151 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 13: the changes they made for. 1152 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 9: COVID voting wasn't lawful. 1153 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 13: Well, that's a pretty significant decision that was made by 1154 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 13: people the Wisconsin Election Commission and others, does that constitute 1155 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 13: a federal crime? Those are the sort of things that 1156 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 13: could potentially be examined in an investigation like this. 1157 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 2: Really good reporting here, John, excellent stuff. I'm very much 1158 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing what other jurisdictions are going to 1159 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 2: be rated or grand juries whatever. You also have mentioned that, 1160 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:03,479 Speaker 2: you know this FBI Arctic Frost right they targeted Turning 1161 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 2: Point USA. You can throw up two fifty one, two 1162 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 2: fifty one forty seven these images right here. FBI Arctic 1163 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 2: Frost probe targeted nearly one hundred GOP groups, including Charlie 1164 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 2: Kirks TPUSA. It looks like Tyler Boyer specifically was targeted surveilled. 1165 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 2: You have, I don't know hinted that there could be 1166 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 2: another sort of anti Trump intel op that is uncovered 1167 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 2: this week. Can you tell us more? 1168 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think so. We're in the final stages of 1169 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 13: just finishing that up. But I think what you're going 1170 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 13: to see is the first targeting of President Trump was 1171 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 13: in the summer of sixteen. That's Crossfire Hurricane, that's the 1172 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 13: fake Russia collusion story. The last was Arctic frost. That's 1173 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 13: the one that Cashptel discovered. In between there were two 1174 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 13: in the middle. One of them is now known. It's 1175 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 13: the one that targeted Cash Betel and Susie Wile's phone records. 1176 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 13: Recently we learned about that, and that is focused on 1177 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 13: the classified records case, but it was a counterintelligence case 1178 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 13: that was opened up. But there is another one that's 1179 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 13: opened up in that same timeframe, maybe a little bit earlier, 1180 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 13: as as Crossfire or Hurricane is coming to an end, 1181 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 13: and as and before the classified documents case began, they 1182 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 13: basically targeted the president a fourth time. So there will 1183 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 13: be four counterintelligence investigations in which the FBI treated President 1184 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 13: Trump as a national security threat nearly the entire time 1185 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 13: of his political career. We're going to lay all those 1186 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 13: out in the next twenty four to forty eight hours. 1187 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 2: You said this could be the most troubling. Can you 1188 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 2: shed any more light on that. 1189 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 13: I think because part of the predicate or part of 1190 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 13: the rationale for what constituted the national security threat was 1191 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 13: what words you use to talk about Hunter Biden and 1192 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 13: Ukraine think about that speech may have been a delimiter 1193 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 13: for determining whether you were treated as a national security threat. 1194 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 13: And I think that investigation falls in that timeframe. Were 1195 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 13: were all or were be seeing the origins of a 1196 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 13: disinformation board, and then that massive amount of censorship that 1197 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 13: we saw, some of it in Europe, paid by the 1198 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 13: United States, who then come back in censor Americans, some 1199 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 13: of it outright occurring on US oil. Charlie and I 1200 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 13: and many others were targeted in that censorship realm as well. 1201 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 13: I think that the fact that it went beyond censorship 1202 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 13: and maybe treated someone just because of what they said 1203 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 13: about Hunter Biden or COVID or whatever, that they could 1204 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 13: be deemed a national security fit worthy of being investigated 1205 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 13: by the FBI is a very concerning thing, and I 1206 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 13: think that that's where this fourth operation likely lands. 1207 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 2: John Solomon just the News, check him out, check out 1208 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 2: a show on Real America's Voice as well. Thank you 1209 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:45,959 Speaker 2: for this great, great work, John. 1210 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, good to be with you guys. Thanks so much. 1211 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. 1212 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 4: Hi, folks. 1213 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 2: Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my 1214 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 2: friends over at why REFI. You've probably been hearing me 1215 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 2: talk about y REFI for some time now. We are 1216 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 2: all in with these guys. If you or someone you 1217 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 2: know is struggling with private student loan debt. Take my 1218 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 2: advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on 1219 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 2: your payments, maybe you're even in default. 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And remember 1229 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 2: y Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just 1230 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 2: go to yrefi dot com and tell them your friend 1231 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 2: Andrews sent you. All right, Blake, you're there's a bunch 1232 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,440 Speaker 2: of doomers. 1233 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 4: We wanted to get this. 1234 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 2: We have some good news. 1235 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 4: So this is the thing that's gonna get really frustrating 1236 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 4: over the months to come, because there's a lot of 1237 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 4: people who are going to see the conflict with Iran 1238 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 4: as an excuse to maximally doomer. They want to pout 1239 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 4: either because they find it emotionally satisfying to complain and pout, 1240 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 4: or because they see it as a chance to win 1241 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 4: some sort of internal struggle within the right. So they'll 1242 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 4: either think, oh, we can turf out the MAGA people 1243 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 4: because Trump's pull numbers will go on, or we can 1244 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,720 Speaker 4: turf out the more interventionist people because we think this 1245 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 4: war will go bad. There's gonna be a lot of that, 1246 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 4: and it's going to be very important to keep fighting 1247 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 4: for this cause because a lot of good stuff is happening, 1248 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 4: stuff that's not always in the headlines. And as an example, 1249 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 4: something we were celebrating over the weekend, this is great 1250 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 4: because it was reported by various outlets as a negative 1251 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 4: thing where international student visas went down much more than expected, 1252 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 4: worse than we thought. Because America's colleges have gotten hooked 1253 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 4: on foreign students, bringing in Infinity Indians, Infinity Chinese, Infinity Arabians. 1254 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 2: So why do they do this. 1255 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 4: They do it for a variety of reasons. One is, 1256 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 4: at a lot of state schools, they'll pay full freight 1257 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,440 Speaker 4: tuition so this can fill in holes in their budget. 1258 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 4: A lot of grad students they bring in because these 1259 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 4: schools to save money pay their grad students and STEM 1260 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 4: subjects are generally paid. They're not paying tuition, and they 1261 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 4: don't want to pay them too much. So someone who's 1262 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 4: coming to the US from abroad will work for a 1263 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 4: lot less money, both because they're from a poor country 1264 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 4: and because they can use this to get a green 1265 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 4: cart into the United States, and that's effectively a form 1266 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 4: of compensation an American can't get. So we've gotten totally 1267 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 4: hooked on foreign students. It's hollowing out America, especially in 1268 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 4: skilled fields. We've gotten totally hooked on, Oh, we need 1269 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:51,160 Speaker 4: foreign computer programmers, we need foreign physicists, foreign everything, and 1270 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 4: Americans are losing the ability to do these things, and 1271 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 4: then we become more hooked than ever. Anyway, Visa issuances 1272 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 4: for foreign students went down thirty six percent last year in 1273 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 4: the Trump administration. 1274 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 2: According to Chronicle of Higher Educations analysis the Department of 1275 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,000 Speaker 2: State data. This is what's interesting, So this is ninety 1276 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 2: seven one hundred thousand fewer student visas were awarded. Technically, 1277 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 2: that's a seventeen percent overall decrease in international student enrollments, 1278 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 2: which is big. Actually are one year just from a 1279 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 2: they're just doing this kind of behind the scenes, no 1280 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,759 Speaker 2: laws of change, many. 1281 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 4: Different regulations on EFI institute or I'm looking right now. 1282 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 4: It says economic implications for colleges are significant. 1283 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 2: Good, yes, good. Stop paying bloated administrative salaries. Stop adding 1284 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 2: admin roles. By the way, when you look at the 1285 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 2: ratio over the years between students and administrative faculty, we're 1286 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 2: not talking professors, we're talking admins. The ratio has skyrocketed. 1287 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 4: The number of people that you know, they have their gym, 1288 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 4: you know their gym, yoga class leaders that are part 1289 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,760 Speaker 4: of the package. You have the community managers, you have 1290 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 4: the sheer number of psychiatry professionals. Diversities are well. 1291 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. This is what's great. India the 1292 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 2: top center of students to the United States. So hear 1293 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 2: me out again, because we're talking about H one b's 1294 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 2: everyone wants to get rid of India. I'm on that track. 1295 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,759 Speaker 2: But this is this is key. India the top center 1296 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,759 Speaker 2: of students to the United States. So on especially steep decline, 1297 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:31,000 Speaker 2: American consulates there issued only about twenty two thousand student 1298 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,799 Speaker 2: visas over the summer, a drop of more than sixty percent. 1299 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 2: So yet we haven't fixed all of it. But sixty 1300 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,760 Speaker 2: percent drop in student visas to India. That is significant. 1301 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 2: That is significant, And to Blake's point, why, because you're 1302 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 2: making room for actual American born talent to take those spots, 1303 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 2: especially when it comes to STEM. So a lot of 1304 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,679 Speaker 2: people don't understand the psychology of this. If you're say, 1305 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 2: you're like a white kid from Tulsa and you want 1306 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 2: to go get a STEM degree somewhere, and you and 1307 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 2: you apply and you go into the introductory course because 1308 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 2: they do these they do sort of like a you know, 1309 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,760 Speaker 2: come get to know your faculty. If you're thinking about 1310 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 2: this this uh major or whatever, you go in. You 1311 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 2: got this white white kid from Tulsa who goes in 1312 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 2: and guess what it is. It's all Chinese and Indians. 1313 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 2: And you're like the one kid from America and what 1314 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 2: do you what are you gonna think psychologically about? They're like, 1315 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 2: screw that, I'm gonna go to finance. And so we 1316 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 2: lose the ability to do really important work. And that's 1317 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 2: key because then we get hooked on foreign town. 1318 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,719 Speaker 4: Totally hooked. And then we've often had we've had foreign 1319 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,799 Speaker 4: born scientists end up in sensitive defense stuff because well, 1320 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,559 Speaker 4: we have no one else who can fill these jobs, 1321 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 4: or we're just totally blase about the risk that having 1322 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 4: foreign originated people in sensitive defense stuff goes and then 1323 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 4: they leak stuff to China endlessly has happened where we 1324 01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,559 Speaker 4: have Chinese scientists in sensitive areas, or again those Chinese 1325 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 4: graduate students. We do so much defense work at universities 1326 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 4: with professors who are elites in whatever their field is, 1327 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 4: and they'll have Chinese graduate students and they'll say, oh, 1328 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 4: we're keeping them away from the most sensitive stuff, but 1329 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,680 Speaker 4: they're not a way enough they'll end up. 1330 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 2: Well, there's a new report, by the way, the DOJ 1331 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 2: just showed that over thirty thousand visits during the Biden 1332 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 2: administration from Chinese, Russian, and Iranian officials to sensitive laboratories 1333 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:27,759 Speaker 2: doing research. 1334 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,599 Speaker 4: And it's just not a problem that China has, for example, 1335 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 4: that they we've gotten so hooked it's functionally impossible for 1336 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 4: us to do work that we think America should be 1337 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 4: able to do without an endless inflow of people from abroad. 1338 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,599 Speaker 4: And some of those people are useful, some of those 1339 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 4: people are necessary, but not as many as we've gotten 1340 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 4: used to, and not to the extent where it's worth 1341 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 4: hollowing out native born Americans' ability to do keywork. So 1342 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 4: that's a white pill for you. It's important to flag these. 1343 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 4: We're going to keep doing it, yep, because we can't 1344 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 4: let people use this conflict in Iran or anything else 1345 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 4: to blackpill us out of keeping this administration going because 1346 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 4: it's doing important stuff that no other administration would do 1347 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 4: that is helping America in the long term. And that's 1348 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 4: happening on immigration, it's happening on the border, it's happening 1349 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,599 Speaker 4: on regulation, it's happening in a lot of areas. 1350 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Western hemispheric dominance. But yeah, there's a week I 1351 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 2: call them the burn it all down people. 1352 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 3: There are. 1353 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 2: There is a whole string of thought online that wants 1354 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 2: to completely sabotage a Trump administration because they aren't perfectly. 1355 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,599 Speaker 4: Some people find it more fun to burn everything down 1356 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 4: than to build. In fact, most people find it that way. 1357 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 4: That's why building is hard and why it's necessary. For 1358 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 4: more on many of these stories and news you can trust, 1359 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 4: go to Charlie Kirk dot com.