WEBVTT - The Uprising in Iran 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.440 Hillsdale Hillsdale dot ed or I encourage you to take 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.920 advantage of the many free online courses there, and of 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.280 course I'll listen to the Hillsdale Dialogue all of them 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.560 at q for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple, 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:19.560 iTunes and Hillsdale. So much news over the weekend. It 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.560 is believed that more than five thousand Aranians were mowed 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.000 down in the streets of Tehran and throughout the country 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.040 by the security services in the service of the Iyatolajamii 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.880 Hamini Homiani. He did the original revolution. Hamieni is the 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:36.479 supreme leader who succeeded him decades ago. So it's no 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.120 holds barred now. President Trump is weighing his options at 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:46.279 this hour. He gave the Iranian regime many warnings on 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.040 truth social a week ago on this program, on Thursday, 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.040 on Sean Handy's program on Thursday Night, and then last 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.520 nine on Air Force Wan. He was asked by reporters 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:01.440 and he said, well, they've asked for negotiations. They apparently 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:03.600 will bring you that tape a little bit later, but 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:09.600 they've apparently decided to go with killing people. Now, the Iranians, 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.240 according to President Trump, and of course you've got great 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.959 credibility right now, have offered to negotiate. I don't know 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.000 what they have to negotiate over. They've killed five thousand 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.760 of their own people, and President Trump told them, don't 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.520 do that, and they did it. And then how many 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.040 went on the air and made fun of Trump and 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.480 the United States over the weekend. So although the Wall 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.319 Street Journal is reporting at this hour that there's division 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:40.320 in the ranks within the administration, perhaps there is. Let 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.759 me read you the story. The White House is weighing 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.200 a last ditch Iranian offer to engage in diplomacy over 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.960 curbing its nuclear program. We curbed their President Trump obliterated 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:55.279 their nuclear program. Even if President Trump currently leans towards 0:01:55.320 --> 0:02:00.640 authorizing fresh military strikes on Iran, some senior station aids 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.000 led by Vice President Jady Vance urging Trump to try 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:08.560 diplomacy before retaliating against Iran for killing protesters during a 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.960 two week uprising over a flailing economy and regime repression. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.600 I don't believe that, by the way. I think that 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.960 is a made up thing by people who are not 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.520 actually JD. Vance talking to the Wall Street Journal by 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.560 the isolationist wing. I think the vice president will support 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:29.280 whatever the President decides to do. Speaking Sunday to reporters 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.320 on Air Force One, Trump said that Tehran messaged Washington 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.400 a day earlier that it was willing to enter negotiations 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.799 over its years long nuclear program. I'll talk with Mark 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.440 Dubiets about this a little bit later, CEO of the 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.040 Foundation for the Defense of Democracy. The president said a 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.799 meeting is being set up, though the US is still 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:51.200 looking at quote very strong options. There is a word 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.000 as well that he will meet with senior aids Tuesday 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.079 to determine his approach. I hope that approach is to 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:02.959 hit as he promised to do. Presidential credibility is earned 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:08.040 in ounces and lost in pounds, just like truthfulness and 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:12.040 reliability is earned announcers in lost in pounds. Everybody believes 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:16.160 that Donald Trump threat right now, all right. He threatened 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:20.160 Operation Midnight Hammer, and he delivered on it. He threatened Maduro, 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.480 and Maduro laughed at him. And Maduro is in a 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.000 jail cell in New York City. So the president's credibility 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.799 literally could not be higher right now. It could only 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.320 be damaged if he walks it back and engages in 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:40.640 the favorite tactic of the Iranian theocrats, delayed, delayed, delay, delay, divide, 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:46.280 playoff of the best hopes and the worst fears of Americans. 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:52.400 So here is President Trump on Air Force one yesterday 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:59.720 talking about to a CNN reporter about the Iran threat 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.360 that he is made and whether or not Iran takes 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:07.640 it seriously. Cuttnumber six at three, I think, don't you 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:08.920 think so, CNN? 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.200 Don't you think so? Would you say. 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.520 That they probably do at this point after going through 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:19.680 it for years with me being hit, salivating out back daddy, 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.480 the red nuclear threat wiped out? Don't you think? And 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.920 then you just had Venezuela. Don't you think? She says, CNN, 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.640 do you think they take your threat seriously? What do 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.880 you say they do after all of the things. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.880 We have done? What a stupid question. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.719 It really is a stupid question. Of course, they take 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.400 the threat seriously. That's why they're begging for negotiations, because 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.240 the president can bring down that regime with three days 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.039 of air campaign, I mean a concerted effort, maybe with 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.760 is reel, maybe without. John Fetterman went on CNN and 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.520 gave his statement, this is the Democratic Center from Pennsylvania 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:56.240 cutt number two. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:01.200 Absolutely, and now if it could and used to make 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.200 more sense. Absolutely, I think I was the only Democrat 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:08.240 that fully supported our strike of their Iranian nuclear facilities 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.200 last year, and now by then, without those kinds of strikes, 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.720 Iran could have acquired a nuclear bomb. I think, I 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.320 hope we can all agree that Iran should have never 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.720 acquired a nuclear bomb. And Iran is one of the 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:27.719 world's top terrorist unwriter. And now you have that poisonous 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.320 regime now in spiral. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.720 So why wouldn't we want to support that? 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:36.279 And those brave protesters they've killed probably more than six 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.520 hundred by now, So now why would we want to 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:44.919 have the kinds of targeted kinds of action that could 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:46.800 break that regime. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.720 There are sources do tel CNN that there are concerns 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:55.279 inside the Trump administration though, that taking military action military 0:05:55.320 --> 0:06:00.760 strikes could actually backfire and undermine the protests by swelling 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.880 support for the Iranian government. Do you see that? 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:10.360 Yeah, if it makes sense, again, if those strikes make sense, absolutely, 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.200 I do support those things. You know, I don't know 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.640 exactly what the conversation is. I'm saying I'm open to that, 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:21.680 and I am actually inspired by the real kinds of 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.600 courage that those protesters in Iran. 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:25.719 Are demonstrated now. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:27.680 So I don't know why we can't all want to 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:33.160 support that to back then and now bring that awful regime, 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.240 you know, to its knees now. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:36.480 That's where it's at right now. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:41.400 They're so desperate now they they killed the internet and 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.960 now they're mowing down their own citizens. Now they're even 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.599 so desperate offering six dollars a month as some kind 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.800 of a payoff now to now For me, I think 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.880 we can all agree that the world would be better, safer, 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.960 and more just if you could break that regime. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:02.240 I do not believe Lagoshimi saying that there are forces 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.719 inside the White House who are counseling against striking the 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.400 regime after President Trump made those threats. I don't believe it. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.760 I think it's useful for the legacy media narrative, but 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.840 I do not believe it. David Ignatius is the senior 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:20.680 national security voice for Legacy Media in Washington, been on 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.920 columns for the Washington Post for many many years. I 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.840 know David. He's very reliable. Here's what David said on 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.960 Morning Joe This Morning cut number four. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.640 So the best case scenario is that. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:39.440 A regime whose security forces are weak, are rusty, that 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:46.160 failed to help its proxies Hezbola in Lebanon, Hamas and Gaza, 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:51.400 Basher Alasade in Syria, and ian Oran itself couldn't fend 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.000 off and it was Israeli attacked last Yune, that that regime, 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.760 if gift hard, will begin to crack. 0:07:58.240 --> 0:07:59.960 What does it mean to hit it hard? 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:06.640 So what it means, I think is heavy munitionis striking barracks, bases, 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:13.040 certainly missile production facilities that the rates would use to retaliate. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.000 But to show the Iranian people that this security force, 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.360 which is hated by a lot of the country, isn't 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.960 so tough that they're going to crush you. They're themselves 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.360 on the run. I think that's what it would it 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:26.960 would look like. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:27.480 It would be. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:33.960 It would be the barracks, logistic resources and those things 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:35.920 can be done and people would noted we have no 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.560 aircraft carrier strike group in the region. That's true, but 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.360 you don't need one. I'm told we have enough aircraft 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.600 in Europe, enough missiles that could be launched to hit 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.760 the targets that it's not necessary to move the Gerald 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.320 forward or any other aircraft carry task force. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.760 In the region right now. And this is what Tray 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.320 Yanks on Fox News reported Cut number. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:59.880 Three Dana, Good Morning. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:04.760 Intense anti government demonstrations erupting across Iran over the weekend 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.360 were met with a brutal crackdown. A source in Tehran, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:12.840 speaking with Fox News via starlink described security forces open 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.080 firing into crowds of people, using tear gas. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.000 And arresting thousands. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.240 Human rights organizations say at least five hundred and forty 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.960 four people have been killed over the past two weeks, 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.160 but with an ongoing internet blackout, the confirmed number is 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:30.440 expected to increase significantly. Aron's President must sud Pozeski and 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.480 made a public address yesterday discussing the clashes. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:38.520 Don't need to hear regime propaganda. There are very reliable 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.760 estimates of more than five thousand murdered by the regime 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:46.560 over the weekend. Hopefully President Trump and Elon Musk worked 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.480 together to get starlink working, although I'm not sure starlink 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.240 can work in Iran to the extent that it worked 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.440 in Ukraine, because the government in Ukraine welcomed it and 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.240 put up terminals to receive it. The Iranian regime will 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.960 try and stop those terminals from being act debated and 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.800 tracked down. So it's tremendously courageous of the Iranian people 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:06.960 to rise up and walk in the streets as they are. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:11.400 And President Trump made a warning on this show, on 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.640 Sean Hanny's show on Thursday night. He did it on 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.080 True Social He has made a lot of warning and 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.760 they have been disregarded by the regime. His credibility is high. 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.160 I don't think he ought to be talked out about 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.520 hitting them, and I believe these Israelis ought to go 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.000 along with us and hit the regime. They're only one 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.600 hundred and fifty thousand IRGC. Those are the toughest there 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.480 a couple maybe even million besieged. But those are just thugs. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.839 They might have weapons, but they're thugs. Stay tuned. I'll 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:41.280 bring you the latest from the RAM when I come 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:47.000 back on the You Do It Show. Welcome back, America. 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.079 I'm Jue Gwett, joined now by former Israeli Ambassador of 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:54.040 the United States, doctor Michael Orrin, from Israel. Doctor Orrin, welcome, 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.440 What is your assessment of the situation in Iran and 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.599 what ought the United States to do, and why. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:01.920 Situation in Iran is very troubling. 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:06.160 Certainly, hundreds, potentially thousands of people being killed going out 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.760 to protests for freedom from this heinous regime very disturbing, 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.600 and it impacts all Israelis. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.000 We're all there for the people of Iran. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.640 Before nineteen seventy nine, they were our close allies, and 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.960 we look forward to being allied with them and close 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:24.360 to them once again. Having said that, great skepticism here 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.880 about whether these protests can actually bring down the regime. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.199 We're talking about a company country of ninety million people. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.400 I don't know how many tens of thousands, even hundreds 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.240 of thousands are out protesting, but still it's not. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.560 Ninety million, and the regime has immense. 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:43.959 Means at its disposal for suppressing these demonstrations. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.800 You're talking about an army of almost a half a. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:51.520 Million soldiers, a a guard at Islamic Republican Guard, Revolutionary 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.080 Guard of close to a half a million soldiers plus besiege. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.559 These are these paramilitary thugs. There may be five million 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:58.120 of them. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.280 And so the iran Has regime has just begun to fight. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.920 Now whether the United States will intervene or not, I 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.000 think it's always at this point. I think it's a 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.280 mistake to gainsay what the President says or question what 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:10.080 the President says. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.559 And if he says the United States is willing to 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.280 use force, I think he very much means it. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.320 I think the American military would like to gather that force, 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:22.480 assemble that course within a striking distance of Iran. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.720 Though you know, American strategic bombers. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.400 Could take off in Idaho and be over the skies 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:32.200 of Iran in a matter of fifteen hours or even less. Still, 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:33.800 I think the American military would like to have a 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:35.439 very large military. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.000 Presence in the air, which includes moving. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.959 Carrier strike forces, may take a few weeks. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:41.040 Having said all that. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.679 My gut feeling, my gut feeling, Hugh, is that this 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:45.600 is going to end. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:46.800 In some type of deal. 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.520 And I think there are intimations both from the Iranians 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:50.760 and the. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.600 United States that these that context contexts towards such a 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:55.719 deal are already going on. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.400 What that deal may look like, That deal would look 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.240 like something like Venezuela, when you get rid of the 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.520 bad guys, get rid of the bad malas, which may 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:05.520 be redundant. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.240 I don't know any good mulas. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.800 And their elements in the IROs. We see, he will say, well, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.360 let us take over and we will reorient. We will 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.640 reorient Iran back to the United States, which would be 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.520 a tremendous not just financial victory for America. I'ron of 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.760 course a major supplier of oil, but also give the 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.720 United States immense leverage over the Chinese because the Chinese 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.440 economy is almost entirely dependent on irody and oil. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:30.800 Think about that, But that would mean. 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.360 For America and the world, without firing a single shot 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:39.000 for Israel, the outcome would be would be okay. It 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.800 would could be much better if the regime would disappear entirely. 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.280 But a regime that has been defanged and now newly 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.360 connected with the United States, not with Russia, not with China, 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.360 is very much in Israel's interest now. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:57.640 Doctor Orrin Donald Trump has threatened four times Iran if 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.560 they murdered their people, he would hit them. He did 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.800 it on True Social a week ago, he did it 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.640 on this program on Thursday, he did it on Sean 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.439 Hannay's program on Thursday night. He did it on True 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.320 Social Overnight and on Air Force One. So it's really 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.360 five times. He's worn the Iranian and now the numbers 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:17.480 are horrific, maybe more than five thousand people gunned down, 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.800 ten thousand people taken into custody. Can he afford not 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.240 to do something, at least hit a missile factory, hit 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:29.040 some IRGC facility, do something to back up his threat. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:31.760 He certainly could. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.720 And I think when the president puts a credible military 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.560 threat on the table, he intends to use it. He 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.200 puts that pistol on the table, not just as previous 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.640 administrations would put a pistol on the table and had 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.240 no intention of using that pistol. It actually broadcast American weakness. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.640 When President Trump has put that pistol out there, he 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.640 intends to use it and that strength. We saw how 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:54.320 it worked in achieving the release of Israeli hostages. We 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.240 saw how it worked in framing the Abraham Accords. It 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.080 has worked again and again, and it can work here. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:00.560 It's to work. 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:05.960 How if you bomb IRGC headquarters, if you bomb missile silos, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.240 it's not going to bring down the regime again. You're 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:12.240 going to still have the five six seven million armed 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:13.720 people are going to come out of that regime and 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.000 knock these protesters on the head and kill them, because 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.720 the regime is not going to go quietly into that 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.080 good night. It could also resolve their gene may turn 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.320 around and fire some missiles at Israel, and that would 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:27.440 bring Israel into the fray as well. I think that 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.360 the use of military force is the means to an end, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:31.360 and the. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.040 End probably is a negotiated. 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.080 End where the Rians will give up their nuclear program, 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:40.119 that will surrender their highly enriched uranium, They will mothball 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.240 a large segment of their intercontinental ballistic system, and as 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.280 I said earlier, will reoriented their foreign policy and their 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.240 oil policy toward the United States. 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.560 Doctor Oran. If Iran were to hit at Israel and 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.640 the sort of weird calculus that Taddam Hussein used in 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:03.160 the nineteen ninety one golf when he invaded Kawait, America 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.040 led a coalition to oust him, and he sent goods 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.280 at Israel. I don't think Israel will sit back this time, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.240 as they were asked to do and did in nineteen 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.760 ninety one. What would the response from Israel be if 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.080 Iran send another wave of ballistic missiles its way. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.600 Be massive, and I think that John Trump is not 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.800 going to hold us back. I think that was clear 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.040 from his most recent meeting with the Prime Minister and 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.320 that Iran no longer has air defenses. Iran is completely 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.320 vulnerable them they move those missiles out of their silos, 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.760 they will be hit, and not just the silos. I 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.360 don't think anybody will be immune from Israel's reaction. First 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.000 of all, and above all, the Iatotal committee. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.800 Now doctor worn last question. The people of Iran are bankrupt. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.680 The real has now fall into something like two million 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:53.160 for one American dollar, and it's falling still with the unrest. 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.920 But we did not neither Israel nor the United States 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.400 hit carg Island, which is their major oil export facility. 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.200 Is that on the table in your view if there's 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.440 another round of conflict here, I. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:05.840 Don't think so. 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.920 I think the idea is that not to keep oil 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:12.240 prices going down, not up, and hitting Craig Island would 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:13.439 cause a spike in oil prices. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.600 I think the whole one of the great benefits. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:19.399 Potentially of the Venezuelan operation is to reduce oil to 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:23.440 fifty or even thirty five dollars a barrel, and which 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.399 would by the way, have the addition to benefit of 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:26.800 sort of bankrupting Russia. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:28.280 Think about this. 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:33.399 This is the geostrategic gratifications of oil diplomacy, and I 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.000 think the idea is to somehow get this regime to 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.040 give up its nuclear program, give up its role as 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.240 the largest state sponsor of terror in the world. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.919 Maybe not open an embassy in Israel tomorrow. 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.200 But it certainly maybe have really a de facto non 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:51.200 belligerency with Israel and again reoriented its foreign policy toward 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.280 the United States. At the same time bring down oil prices. 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.200 Bring down oil prices. That will certainly, I think we're 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.639 down to the president and his party political as the 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.600 mid terms are approaching. Think about this. Think about this 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.119 as a as a multi tier chessboard, Hugh. There's much 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:08.119 speaking at this moment. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.600 Doctor Michael Orran, founder of the Israel Advocacy Group. You 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.159 can also follow him on Exit d R Michael Orran, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.000 Doctor Michael Arran, d R Michael orn on X. It's 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.040 one of the people you can trust on this topic. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.000 State twnw right back on the Hugh Hewitt Show, Hugh Hewitt, 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.200 I'm in Studio West of the Relief Factor of Studio Set, 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.119 and I'm so pleased to welcome back Steve Hilton, who 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.679 I hope is the Golden State's next governor and his 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.439 running mate state former State Senator Gloria Romero, which was 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.760 a bit of a surprise because she used to be 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.080 a Democrat and I think it's the first time she's 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:41.960 ever been on the show. So welcome to you both. 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.240 Steve Hilton. Let's talk about why you've asked Gloria Romero 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.240 to be your running mate. Then I got questions for 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.560 Gloria Ormo on when she saw the light. 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:52.639 Fantastic. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:54.159 I love love it great to be with you, You 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.720 happen to you. You lovely to see Gloria as well. 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.959 We're going to be in person later today in Los Angeles. Look, 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.280 I've always said that this is going to be a 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:06.159 tough fight, an uphill battle to turn around California, to 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.199 save our beautiful state, and it's not just going to 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.879 be one person in one role. I've always seen it 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.720 as a team effort, a team that's going to turn 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:19.000 around California, both in terms of the need to elect 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:24.160 Republicans at every level in California, the state legislature, county 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.320 boards of supervisor, school boards, and so on, and also 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:31.480 across the board the other statewide offices. It's a massive state, 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.480 the biggest in America, the fourth biggest economy in the world. 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.480 I understand about putting together and leading a team. That's 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.159 how I've always operated when I've started businesses back in 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.679 the day working in the UK government, so I've always 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.800 seen it like that. And in fact, there will be 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.879 more announcements about the team that's taking shape in the 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.600 days and weeks ahead, But today the focus is on 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.720 my running mate running for Lieutenant governor, Gloria amer That's 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.800 not normally done. In fact, it's the first time it's 0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:00.040 been done in California. These are independently elected positions, and 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.679 so this is a first in terms of a ticket. 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.440 But we are very excited about it for two reasons. 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.879 Number one, Gloria's story is so powerful. She'll tell you 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:12.520 about that in a moment walking away from the Democrat Party, 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:17.040 the area she represented in the legislature, her understanding. 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:17.800 Of the Latino community. 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:22.399 But also the second big point, her understanding of the legislature. 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.399 I'm running as an outsider to shake up Sacramento, to 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.200 end the corruption, the failure, and the bloat and the fraud. 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:30.800 And we'll get to all that as well, but Gloria 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.720 having served in the legislature, she really knows how things 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.159 work there, or I guess the right term will be 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.480 don't work. And so she's going to be an incredibly 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:44.040 trusted guide for me in terms of making things actually 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:47.119 happening and delivering the change that we need so earlier 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.400 today making the announcement return to Senator Romero. 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.199 Senator you may or may not remember I did the 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.400 nightly news in LA from nineteen ninety two to two 0:20:56.440 --> 0:21:01.240 thousand and two. You're a Democrats. Democrat, so what happened? 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:05.680 And welcome aboard, Thank you too. 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:09.040 I think with anything, it's always a process overall. If 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.320 you talk with anybody who worked with me while I 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.520 was in Sacramento, people knew that I worked across the 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.920 aisle and I took on some of the biggest challenges 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.399 even back then as a Democrat. I was one of 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:25.360 those Democrats I always have been who believes in school choice. 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:29.320 That meant taking on the number one political backer of 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.480 the Democrat Party, the Teachers' Union. But I did that, 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:36.800 and people in Sacramento knew that way back then. I 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:42.119