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Speaker 1: It's a very interesting conversation. He's a very smart man. Plus,

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Speaker 1: AOC has done it again again. As if Taiwan and

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Speaker 1: was allowed to take the stage again at Munich. I know,

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Speaker 1: I can't, I can't Taiwan. She essentially didn't even know

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Speaker 1: what it was a country, AOC, nor did she have

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Speaker 1: any idea regarding Jijiping of China's intentions when it comes

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Speaker 1: to said country. Watch his New Year's speech, AOC, you

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Speaker 2: Would and should the US actually commit US troops to

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Speaker 2: defend Taiwan if China were to move?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that.

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Speaker 2: This is such a you know, I think that this

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Speaker 2: is a This is of course, a very long standing

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Speaker 2: policy of the United States, and I think what we

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Speaker 2: that we never get to that point, and we want

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Speaker 2: to make sure that we are moving in all of

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Speaker 2: our economic research and our global positions to avoid any

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Speaker 2: such confrontation and for that question to even arise.

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Speaker 1: Completely capitulated on the world stage as the leading Democrat

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Speaker 1: presidential candidate most likely for twenty twenty eight apart from Nepads,

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Speaker 1: and they let her take the stage after she had

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Speaker 1: essentially said Israel was responsible for a genocide, which is

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Speaker 1: just untrue on every single level, at every test it fails.

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Speaker 1: They let her take the stage again, and guess what, guys,

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Speaker 1: guess what, I know that she completely screwed up the

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Speaker 1: first bit. I knows she completely screwed up the second bit,

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Speaker 1: and guess what she did with the third bit. You won't.

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Speaker 1: You won't be able to guess, Go and try what

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Speaker 1: was that? Sorry?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: Yes, she completely screwed it up, and guess who she

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Speaker 1: took aim at Marca Rubio, who gave one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest speeches I've heard during my lifetime, which is very short.

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Speaker 1: Clearly it was brilliant. It was a speech for the ages.

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Speaker 1: It focused on the preservation of Western civilization, something semi

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Speaker 1: important to all of us who value that. AOC clearly

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a look at what she not, what she said,

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Speaker 1: what she tried to say, what she tried to say.

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Speaker 1: Have a look.

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Speaker 2: You are starting to see the ascent of the right,

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Speaker 2: even in places like Munich. Marco Rubio's speech was a

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Speaker 2: pure appeal to Western culture. Favorite part was when he

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Speaker 2: said that American cowboys came from Spain. I believe the

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Speaker 2: Mexicans and descendants of African slave enslaved people's would like

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Speaker 2: think it's also important to note how thin that foundation is.

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Speaker 2: Culture is changing, culture always changed. Culture for the entire

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Speaker 2: history of human civilization has been a fluid, evolving thing

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Speaker 2: that that is a response to the conditions that we

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Speaker 2: of culture at the end of the day, though, is

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Speaker 2: you know, it is very thin, and so the response

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Speaker 2: that we have to have is again, it's material, it's

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Speaker 2: class based, it's common interest. There was certainly more openness

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Speaker 2: to what I was saying than probably there would be

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Speaker 2: in years past. We can't underestimate the appeal of going

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Speaker 2: back to these well worn grooves. A lot of what

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Speaker 2: internationalist perspective also means ending the hypocrisy towards the global South.

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Speaker 1: I mean, a it makes no sense the tiny bits

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Speaker 1: that you can kind of extrapolate and try and make

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Speaker 1: a tiny bit some modicum of sense with. Essentially, she's saying,

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Speaker 1: culture's fluid, it's ever evolving, it always changes. Yeah, thanks scoop.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, when it's happening for the worse

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Speaker 1: and not for the betterment of society, that's when you

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Speaker 1: jump in and you try and correct course. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not rocket science here, it's not even that we're

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Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, shifting a little bit to

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Speaker 1: the left a little bit to the right. Differentations. No,

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Speaker 1: we are essentially committing cultural suicide AOC. This isn't just

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Speaker 1: a culture always evolves. We should just let it, guys,

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Speaker 1: because it's always done that. No, No, we will cease

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Speaker 1: to exist. It's existential. I don't get the stupidity of it.

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Speaker 1: And what I also don't get, more so than her

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Speaker 1: inability to answer a basic question and her inability to

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Speaker 1: express a coherent thought, is that the Democrats let her

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Speaker 1: get back on the stage. They've given up. This is

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Speaker 1: the one indication that she is not going to feature

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Speaker 1: because they've given up on her. If they were still

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Speaker 1: trying to preserve even a tiny bit of her reputation,

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Speaker 1: she would never have taken that stage again, not after

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Speaker 1: they let her means well, I don't think they care.

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Speaker 1: I think they're essentially saying, there's nothing more we can

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Speaker 1: do here. We cannot polish a turd. Take her, take

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Speaker 1: her Europe. Maybe they're hoping that they will essentially say, Munich,

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Speaker 1: we like her so much, we'll keep her, and that

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Speaker 1: will make their lives much easier. Who knows, But really

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Speaker 1: appalling in so many ways. Let's have a quick reminder

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Speaker 1: of how good Marco Rubio was. And again he wasn't

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Speaker 1: reinventing the wheel. What he said wasn't you know, the

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Speaker 1: heard before. It was just really basic common sense. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Western civilization, Hey Europe, Hey America, Hey Australia. If you

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Speaker 1: that you've become accustomed, we've got a course correct here.

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Speaker 1: We've got to stop hating ourselves. We've got to stop

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Speaker 1: letting people into our countries who hate us to destroy us.

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Speaker 4: Have a look, we increasingly outsourced our sovereignty to international institutions,

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Speaker 4: while many nations invested in massive welfare states at the

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Speaker 4: hesitated to use hard power to pursue their own interests.

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Speaker 4: To appease a climate cult, we have imposed energy policies

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Speaker 4: competitors exploit oil and coal and natural gas and anything

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Speaker 4: unprecedented wave of mass migration that threatens the cohesion of

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Speaker 4: our societies, the continuity of our culture, and the future

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Speaker 4: of our people. We made these mistakes together, and now

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Speaker 4: together we owe it to our people to face those

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Speaker 4: facts and to move forward to rebuild. Under President Trump,

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Speaker 4: the United States of America will once again take on

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Speaker 4: to do this alone, it is our preference and it

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Speaker 4: is our hope, to do this together with you, our

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Speaker 4: friends here in Europe. For the United States and Europe,

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Speaker 4: we belonged together. America was found to two hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty years ago, but the roots began here on this

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Speaker 4: Western civilization. We are bound to one another by the

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Speaker 4: and urgent in our council. This is why President Trump

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Speaker 4: demands seriousness and reciprocity from our friends here in Europe.

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Speaker 4: The reason why, my friends, is because we care deeply.

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Speaker 4: We care deeply about your future and ours, and if

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Speaker 4: at times we disagree, our disagreements come from our profound

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Speaker 4: not just economically, not just militarily. We are connected spiritually,

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Speaker 4: We believe that Europe must survive because the two great

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Speaker 4: wars of the last century serve for us as history's

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Speaker 4: constant reminder that ultimately our destiny is and will always

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Speaker 5: Because we know.

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Speaker 1: He is brilliant. I've said it before, I'll say it again,

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Speaker 1: and I know not all of you agree with me,

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Speaker 1: but actually most of you do. He would be the

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Speaker 1: most brilliant next president of the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine how comforting that would be to know

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Speaker 1: now that he's the next candidate, and given what the

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Speaker 1: conclusion he would be the next president. Gosh, that would

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Speaker 1: be nice. Iran. At least a million people globally took

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Speaker 1: people who don't want to see terrorists in power, people

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Speaker 1: who want the Iranian people to reclaim what is rightfully their's,

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Speaker 1: their home, their land, their lives. Lindsey Graham, Senator, has

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Speaker 1: been so so good in this space. I mentioned a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago he'd posted something about a deal,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, and I went, oh, no, and

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Speaker 1: not so much did I worry that he'd changed his tune.

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Speaker 1: I didn't for a second think he had. I thought

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Speaker 1: he must know the administration is heading down that path.

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Speaker 1: And he was trying to make well, essentially the best

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Speaker 1: been flipped. President Trump is now talking about leadership in

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Speaker 1: Iran and how we need changes. The rhetoric has hardened up,

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Speaker 1: which is a good thing. Lindsey Graham got up on

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Speaker 1: stage in Munich and spoke to a crowd of hundreds

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Speaker 1: of thousands of people protesting. Yes, protesters, this is what

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Speaker 1: you should protest against terror, not your law enforcement officers

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Speaker 1: you American people, particularly America Only ers. That's not a

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Speaker 1: that is flawed. Absolutely. We all are joined the club

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Speaker 1: with some fan feedback. Gunta Fillinger, thank you so much

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Speaker 5: Thanks a lot for the invitation.

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Speaker 1: Eron, I'd love to get your reaction, first of all,

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Speaker 1: It's gone global in regards to how brilliant it was.

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Speaker 8: Yes, you know, it was much better than Jady Went's

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Speaker 8: And you know, we are also at LTA and Europe

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Speaker 8: Now you basically the Americans have now for one year

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Speaker 8: But don't come then for the victory lap, because we

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Speaker 8: We need weapons, we need money, and we need clear commitments.

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Speaker 8: Who is our enemy, who is our friend? Russia is

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Speaker 1: Well, I've got to I've got to say, I am

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Speaker 1: forced your hand, But Europe wasn't doing enough initially, were they?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's absolutely true.

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Speaker 8: And Trump, insofar that he's a wrecking bowl of the

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Speaker 8: past policies.

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Speaker 5: It's useful.

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Speaker 8: It's useful, but it's not enough of a strategy just

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Speaker 8: to annoy the world into action.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's good you know, I understand. You know,

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Speaker 5: many of the things.

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Speaker 8: Which Trump is doing will have ultimately a very posible effect,

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Speaker 8: because by his chaotic leadership style, he will push us

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Speaker 8: into liberating Iran. He will push us into a liberating Crimea.

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Speaker 5: But it's not exactly a career in strategy.

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Speaker 8: It's just confusion, and it's a little bit annoying because

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Speaker 8: we could achieve much more if we were more united.

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Speaker 8: And this is what should be the spirit of rubious

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Speaker 8: speech for Munich. Let's be united. Let's stop the decay

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Speaker 8: of our civilization, as he has said very clearly in

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Speaker 8: his speech. And let's win together. We have nothing to

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Speaker 8: you know, be good people. We are the good side

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Speaker 8: of the game, and we shall win together. And we

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Speaker 8: will defeat our enemies, and that we always have done

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Speaker 8: in the first second Ward and in the Cold War,

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Speaker 8: and why against Milosovich, against Saddam, against Katafi, and we

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Speaker 8: have removed so many evil people from the world's face.

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Speaker 8: And let's remove the Putin and the Ayatollah and the

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Speaker 8: next thirty years will be wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with you. They are a shared enemy.

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Speaker 1: The West shares the enemy of Putin. End of the

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Speaker 1: eye toler and we know that Putin has been supplying

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Speaker 1: the iotoler with I mean, I don't even know to

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Speaker 1: what extent, but definitely weapons and other support since the

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Speaker 1: uprising of the people in Iran. So defeating the ie

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Speaker 1: toler in the Islamic regime is beneficial not just for

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Speaker 1: Europe or the West, but the entire world. What can

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Speaker 1: Europe do there? You're obviously handling Ukraine at the moment,

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Speaker 1: and that is taking a lot of resources. Trump there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him to act because he

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Speaker 1: said help was on the way. He encouraged people to

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Speaker 1: hit the streets. What can Europe do to help the

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Speaker 1: Iranian people on the ground? Is it military action? Is

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Speaker 1: a pressure on Trump? Or where do you stand? From

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Speaker 1: that perspective?

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Speaker 5: The first one.

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Speaker 8: We should also do more because at the moment, the

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Speaker 8: Europeans are happy to applat for America to join this

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Speaker 8: campaign and liberate the Iran and Israelis as well, but

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Speaker 8: we are not doing anything. And the reason why I

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Speaker 8: make this campaign is because I've been also involved in

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Speaker 8: the Iraq liberation and the Europeans were very divided and

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Speaker 8: many were very much against the liberation of Iraq and

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Speaker 8: against George Bush, and we have to first of all

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Speaker 8: support regime change politically in Europe. Now this is the

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Speaker 8: most important because if the Americans are entering the war now,

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Speaker 8: this is a similar moment like Pearl Harbor in a

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Speaker 8: way that the Americans are really joining this global war

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Speaker 8: in which we are at the moment against our enemies Russia,

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Speaker 8: Iran and China. So if you enter this is very

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Speaker 8: very meaningful because their resources are also limited. The Russian, Iranian,

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Speaker 8: Chinese resources are limited. If you attack the Iranians and

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Speaker 8: we give more to the Ukrainians, and then Russia is

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Speaker 8: at the breaking point basically because they cannot age two

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Speaker 8: wars basically, and they will lose Iran and they will

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Speaker 8: have been driven out of Ukraine in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 8: And that's why Putin is so much and his allies

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Speaker 8: they are trying so much to stop America from intervention

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Speaker 8: against Iran because they understand very much logic because Iran

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Speaker 8: is the hub of this whole alliance system which put

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Speaker 8: him built. Because Iran is a very rich nation and

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Speaker 8: the eighty percent of the oil production goes to the Chinese.

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Speaker 8: They then give with this oil, with this energy and

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Speaker 8: they boiled the weapons and the technology which they give

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Speaker 8: to Russia again, so it's really vital to break Iran

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Speaker 8: out of it. And the Iran still has doesn't have

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Speaker 8: nuclear weapons at the moment, so it's possible to regime

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Speaker 8: changes because the reason why we cannot really attack Russia

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Speaker 8: is because they have nuclear weapons, and so that's always

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Speaker 8: more complicated. And if mister President Trump, with all respect

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Speaker 8: Lindsey Graham said it perfectly at the conference and at

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Speaker 8: the speech of Russia Baglaby, if mister Trump is not

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Speaker 8: liberating Iran, in six months, the Iyatolas will have nuclear weapons,

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Speaker 8: and then mister Trump will have been facilitating the.

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Speaker 5: Very nuclear Iran.

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Speaker 8: He has raised run since two thousand and six that

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Speaker 8: he will stop Iran from having nuclear weapons, he will

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Speaker 8: be responsible for doing so. So I think it's absolutely

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Speaker 8: one opportunity to regime change Iran now.

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Speaker 1: And it was something he was incredibly scathing of Obama

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Speaker 1: on as well for a very long time, very publicly.

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Speaker 1: You talk about Russia, you talk about Iran, you mentioned China,

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Speaker 1: and there arguably the greatest enemy to the West that

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Speaker 1: we have is Jijiping and the Communist Party in China.

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Speaker 1: Much more so where I am in Australia. I'm in

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Speaker 1: America at the moment, but home in Australia. For America

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Speaker 1: as well, the National Defense strategy identifies China as a

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Speaker 1: number one threat. You take out the Ayatola, we can

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Speaker 1: significantly all the others. Do you think the end of

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Speaker 1: the regime in Iran, the fall of the Islamic Party

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Speaker 1: there would help victory for Ukraine would contribute significantly to

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Speaker 1: a potential victory for Ukraine. And how quickly could that occur?

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Speaker 1: Do you think?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely? It can occur very quickly in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 8: And you have to understand this is basically four hostile states.

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Speaker 8: It's China, North Korea, Iran and Russia. And they all

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Speaker 8: are connected very much economically, strategically, technology wise, and so

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Speaker 8: if you take one big puzzle piece, a pillar out

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Speaker 8: of this equation, and then of course all others are

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Speaker 8: much weaker. Mika in the global alliance system. It has

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Speaker 8: already helped to take Maduvo out. That was very good,

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Speaker 8: by the way, Brabo Trump. But if now Iran falls,

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Speaker 8: all the other proxies in the world of Russia and China,

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Speaker 8: they will see that the being with them is absolutely

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Speaker 8: a losing thing, and as well all the resources of Iran,

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Speaker 8: it's one of the richest nations in the world potentially

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Speaker 8: with all their natural resources. They are taken out of

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Speaker 8: their camp and they are in our camp then, because

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Speaker 8: the Shah has made it very clear that he will

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Speaker 8: be part of the free world.

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Speaker 5: So we will basically win.

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Speaker 8: And you know, if we really win in Ukraine first

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Speaker 8: or in Iran first, it doesn't matter so much because

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Speaker 8: it's part of the same global war if you want

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Speaker 8: to go, which Russia has decided to wage against us

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Speaker 8: in twenty twenty two, and for four years we are

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Speaker 8: waiting for the American entry and you have been reluctant,

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Speaker 8: like you would not be concerned by it. And that

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Speaker 8: was very, very sad, even under sleepy Joe Biden. Now

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Speaker 8: mister Trump is also being doing even less than Obama

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Speaker 8: and dealing.

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Speaker 1: That you know about that you know about, yes.

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Speaker 8: But he's dealing with the enemy in our back. And

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Speaker 8: we don't like this Whitkov. We don't like this Jared

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Speaker 8: Kushner deals. And then everybody the news, Yeah, they will

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Speaker 8: have a deal, they will have a deal. Putting has

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Speaker 8: been offered about fifteen or twenty deals now already.

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Speaker 5: In four years, and we negotiate. Of course, we negotiate.

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Speaker 8: We've put in there were so many negotiations, aren't already

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Speaker 8: and you know, he could always at any moment leave

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Speaker 8: the war and we would settle with a ceasefire. The

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Speaker 8: Ukrainians have offered that many many times now at along

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Speaker 8: the current front lines. But he's seemingly not ready because

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Speaker 8: he's extremely greedy. He thinks he can win because he

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Speaker 8: thinks he controls Trump, and Trump has to really show

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Speaker 8: that he is not an asset of Putin, but he

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Speaker 8: is really an independent.

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Speaker 5: Leader of the free world.

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Speaker 8: By basically attacking Iran and giving us the opportunity to

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Speaker 8: support Ukraine so much that they can take back Grimea,

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Speaker 8: and then we have one and this will be the

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Speaker 8: big victory like one.

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Speaker 1: I'm so easy, my friend. You make it sound so easy.

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Speaker 1: Is it less complicated? Do you think?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 8: You know, it's not a it's military action. He's always

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Speaker 8: very complicated. Yet it's the biggest thing statesmen and democracies

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Speaker 8: can do in history to really send people into the

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Speaker 8: front lines. But it's not our choice in many ways,

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Speaker 8: because Russia has started this war in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 8: And you know that you basically cannot really let us

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Speaker 8: Europeans and also the Iranians alone in that one is

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Speaker 8: the lesson of history. It took a long long time

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Speaker 8: until America entered the World War One. It took a

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Speaker 8: very long time for the World War II as well,

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Speaker 8: and in the between. If America would really say a

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Speaker 8: clearer strategy that you are always available on the side

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Speaker 8: of the good, these people putin would have never dared

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Speaker 8: to attack GRIMEA. If somebody in America and the White

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Speaker 8: House would have said, if you touch it, we're gonna

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Speaker 8: get you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll say that. Actually Joe Biden did say that.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden did say that. Oh they know that. It

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Speaker 1: just words were useless. And that's the other issue. You

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Speaker 1: can talk all you like, if people don't believe what

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Speaker 1: you're saying.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm you know, thirty five years in this debate.

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Speaker 8: You remember in Kuwait, in Kuwait in ninety one, and

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Speaker 8: there was George Bush who was sent the whole American

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Speaker 8: Amatha to liberate Kuwait.

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Speaker 5: And you know that that was it there. You know

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Speaker 5: you have the.

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Speaker 8: Power if you use it wisely. The world is a

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Speaker 8: better place if you We've restrained, and then of course

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Speaker 8: buotings and cheese and Ayatolas. They must the people or

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Speaker 8: the tech of a country. And if we con with weakness,

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Speaker 8: then you will see that the Chinese will attack Taiwan,

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Speaker 8: and then you will have to mobilize all your industrial

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Speaker 8: and fiscal resources again in a big world war against China.

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Speaker 8: If you don't want it, and I think it's much

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Speaker 8: better not to do it, we better win against the Iranians,

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Speaker 8: against the Ayatollah because if you do that, the Chinese

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Speaker 8: will never attack anybody else anymore in the future, because

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Speaker 8: they will have seen what you are able to do

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Speaker 8: and they will be afraid.

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Speaker 1: Believe you maya if you watch any piece that I've done.

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Speaker 1: I am all for military action, particularly in Iran at

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Speaker 1: the moment. I don't think anything else works. You can't

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Speaker 1: do deals with people who don't respect what the word

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Speaker 1: deal means. I believe that absolutely. I think. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a whole other conversation China and Taiwan. Whether he

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Speaker 1: is further emboldened or whether he is much more scared,

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Speaker 1: We'll wait and see. I'm going to finally NATO. I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you where is in NATO. We're constantly

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Speaker 1: looking at groups around the world and looking at are

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Speaker 1: they as strong as they've ever been?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 1: There as weak as I've ever been. How would you

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Speaker 1: classify the strength of NATO now and what direction is

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Speaker 1: it heading in?

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Speaker 8: No, Yeah, in general NATO is a very strong alliance. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: because we are very lasting alliance. We are now eighty

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Speaker 8: years old, of seventy years since forty nine. But we

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Speaker 8: are really good. Yeah, we are, you know, I think

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Speaker 8: we are. We can be proud of it. What I'm

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Speaker 8: personally campaigning for is the enlargement of NATO because Ukraine

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Speaker 8: and Coustable, Bosnia and Austria, that's of course important where

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Speaker 8: I come from. That's my main campaign to join NATO.

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Speaker 8: This is what we want to do. Also, Ireland should

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Speaker 8: join NATO Malta so we will all be united. The

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Speaker 8: second thing is we are spending much more money on

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Speaker 8: defense now and here President Trump, I have to applaud him.

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Speaker 8: That was his big campaign, and we have now from

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Speaker 8: two percent to three point five percent, gradually moving towards

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Speaker 8: five percent.

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Speaker 5: That's very good, you know, that's really very good. And

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Speaker 5: also we have now restarted all.

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Speaker 8: Our defense industry from Bulgaria to Finland, to Germany. It's

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Speaker 8: an incredible efforts now to really mobilize our industrial capacities

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Speaker 8: towards defense and towards supplying of Ukraine. We are slow,

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Speaker 8: but we are getting there. And what I'm calling as

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Speaker 8: well is that the U itself is taking much more

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Speaker 8: responsibility and joining NATO as a union. And this is

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Speaker 8: what we can do, and this is what we will do.

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Speaker 8: And we should also develop our global partnership much stronger,

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Speaker 8: to invite Japan and Australia and all these countries also

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Speaker 8: to share and our common defense system. Also Israel. Absolutely,

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Speaker 8: I'm for Israel joining NATO. So I'm a NATO and

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Speaker 8: expansionist and larger. The whole free world should be united

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Speaker 8: in one defense alliance, and so our enemies will shiver

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Speaker 8: and they will be afraid, and they will be deterred

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Speaker 8: from further aggression. But you know, it doesn't help if

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Speaker 8: mister Trump he wants to have Greenland or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I was going to my last question was going to

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Speaker 1: be where do you stand currently on Greenland?

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Speaker 8: Now, Greenland is European and it will always stay European,

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Speaker 8: and you can have all the military basises you want

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Speaker 8: that you can put all your military on Greenland. You

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Speaker 8: can put all your rockets in Greenland. I'm also in

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Speaker 8: favor of a mineral exploitation of Greenland. And I'm in

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Speaker 8: favor of Greenland joining fully the European Union by basically

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Speaker 8: being a full member of Denmark, because they have a

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Speaker 8: little bit of a bizarre statos And here's again a

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Speaker 8: typical trumpy and thing. He is really touching the weak

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Speaker 8: points of the West because we should have settled the

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Speaker 8: situation with Greenland before then it would not be such

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Speaker 8: an open question. But then, basically what is important for

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Speaker 8: America is that you can put your Golden dome rocket

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Speaker 8: defensestem on Greenland and we will allow that. And that

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Speaker 8: is I think the most important because it's not about

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Speaker 8: physical possession. It's about what you can do at this land,

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Speaker 8: and I think that should be among partners and allies

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Speaker 8: the normal situation. So please defend us with the Golden Dome,

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Speaker 8: and you can put to the Polar Bears whatever you

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Speaker 8: want in terms of rockets and mining exploitation. It's only

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Speaker 8: sixty five people living in Greenland. I respect these people,

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Speaker 8: but they cannot veto the defense of the West. They

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Speaker 8: cannot veto the mineral expectation of Greenland. We must make

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Speaker 8: that well very clear to them that they cannot be

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Speaker 8: an obstacle for our security and prosperity. And that's what

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Speaker 8: I want from Greenland.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of the things you talk about

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Speaker 1: that Trump has done has essentially exposed Europe for shortcomings

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Speaker 1: and laziness in some ways. Even though what a noise you.

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Speaker 1: I get it. It had to happen for you to

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Speaker 1: actually take responsibility for your own backyard.

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm a critical person since thirty years to

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Speaker 8: the European weakness in defense, to our appeacement to serbiaan

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Speaker 8: to Russia, to our energy dependency on Russia. And I'm

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Speaker 8: thankful for President Trump. Never I don't like many of

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Speaker 8: his policies, but I'm a lifelong Republican supporter, and I

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Speaker 8: love Reagan and Missus Thatcher, and he has actually done.

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Speaker 8: He has done a lot of things to improve our self.

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Speaker 8: But the style and the methods I totally disapprove of.

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Speaker 8: But in reality, we must be able to defend ourself.

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Speaker 8: Europe must be able to project power. We must as

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Speaker 8: well be able to be assisting America in global power projection.

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Speaker 8: Because you see now when we're talking about regime change

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Speaker 8: in Iran, where is the European aircraft carrier to go?

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm wondering. You've been very quiet.

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Speaker 8: Exactly, we are not even our leaders are so weak

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Speaker 8: that they are not even calling for regime change.

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Speaker 5: They say, okay, it's a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 8: After fifty years almost of Iranian regime, we have now

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Speaker 8: finally declared the revolutionary regards of Iran as a terrorist organization,

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Speaker 8: but only under this immense pressure.

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Speaker 5: And there is no European leader.

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Speaker 8: But metz Matz is really good, that German guy, he

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Speaker 8: is very good, and he called them that they have

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Speaker 8: to end this regime, and.

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Speaker 5: So you know, that was very good.

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Speaker 8: But most of the European leaders don't share the public

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Speaker 8: calls for the end of the regime because we are

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Speaker 8: trained in appeacement, we are trained in accommodation of dictatorships,

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Speaker 8: and we somehow have lived with the Iranian cancer and

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Speaker 8: with the Russian threat, and that's absolutely unacceptable. So for this,

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Speaker 8: I'm very grateful for President Trump that he shakes the

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Speaker 8: European trees and all these appieces will be like shuttle.

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Speaker 8: This is very good. But nevertheless, if you could send

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Speaker 8: it tomahawks to Ukraine. And if he really attacks the

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Speaker 8: Ranian regime, I will actually be supportive of mister Trump

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Speaker 8: if he doesn't take you back on.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thanks, thank you, thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 1: You've got I mean, you're very passionate, You've got a

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Speaker 1: brilliant turn of phrase which I very much enjoy. You've

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Speaker 1: got a great way with the English language, and I'm

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Speaker 1: very much enjoyed having you on. So thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining me here on the Aaron Mullan Show.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for the invitation. Best to god.

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Speaker 1: He's fascinating, isn't he. I can just imagine a lot

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Speaker 1: of you yelling at either your phones if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to the podcast, or your screens if you watching the

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Speaker 1: YouTube episode at some of the things he was saying.

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Speaker 1: But it makes you think, and I think he makes

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Speaker 1: some very valid points. Other aspects of it, I think,

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Speaker 1: pull up your socks and do it yourselves. But I

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Speaker 1: liked him and I'm going to get him back on.

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Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. I'd love to ear

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Speaker 1: your thoughts some comments now for you. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring you a few bits of commentary from YouTube regarding

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Speaker 1: my peace on Valentine's Day. If you haven't seen it,

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Speaker 1: go to the YouTube channel based on my observations here

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Speaker 1: in Florida over the past couple of days, specifically relating

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Speaker 1: to older men with younger women and the fact that

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Speaker 1: it ain't no flex if that is the reason men

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Speaker 1: are doing it. Not all cases are like that. I

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Speaker 1: get it, and please you don't have to send me

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Speaker 1: stories of how evil your wife was. I get it.

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Speaker 1: There are circumstances in which you are act solutely within

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Speaker 1: your right to leave your wife, as she is within

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Speaker 1: her right to leave you. Anyone can do whatever they like.

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Speaker 1: The types I'm talking about are those men who were

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Speaker 1: sitting there with twenty something women and they were in

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Speaker 1: their sixties and kind of looking around thinking they were

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Speaker 1: big dogs. And I was thinking, it's just sad. You

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Speaker 1: look sad, and you actually do. Not only is the

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Speaker 1: situation sad, you look miserable when you're not looking around

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Speaker 1: to see who's looking. And I said, the happiest couples

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Speaker 1: that I saw were men and women around the same age.

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Speaker 1: So the real flex, gentlemen, I said, is essentially work

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Speaker 1: on your marriage, fight to save it, because you're going

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Speaker 1: to be miserable with someone else and someone else younger miserable.

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Speaker 1: They've got more energy to be more angry at you

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Speaker 1: all the time. Now let's have a quick look, Layla

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Speaker 1: says love your work and your take on life. You're

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Speaker 1: informative as well as amusing. Thank you, Layla. Happy Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 1: says Shelley Eron, God bless you. I thought you were

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Speaker 1: around late twenties to thirty three. Very specific. I'm a

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Speaker 1: retired registered palliative care nurse and usually good at guessing ages.

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Speaker 1: So well done you. Thank you. Also, forty is not old,

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Speaker 1: by the way, You're still a baby if you're forty.

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Speaker 1: Hi erin. This is Rob mcgarvin on there's some chance

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Speaker 1: you might actually read this one reading it Rob, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's got his daughter Sharene and a partner Doan. They've

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Speaker 1: been together for twenty years coming up and he said

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Speaker 1: he's super proud they're about to get married twenty years. Wow.

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Speaker 1: That's doing your due diligence, isn't it. That's quite a scholarship.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you call it? When someone spends that

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Speaker 1: long making sure that they're sure quite enjoyed that stoner

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Speaker 1: says Hey Eron, we should get together and have some

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Speaker 1: drinks to singles, just having a good time talking about

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Speaker 1: what is right and what is wrong. Now, Stoner, apart

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Speaker 1: from the fact your name worries me just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: If you're trying to entice me on a date, and

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Speaker 1: the best you've got is that we're going to sit

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Speaker 1: there and talk about what is right and what is wrong,

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00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: you're going to have to lift. Actually, to be entirely

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Speaker 1: honest with you, that's sound like my ideal night, because

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Speaker 1: it's essentially the only thing I really do and the

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Speaker 1: only thing I really enjoy, apart from being a mother,

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Speaker 1: is talking about what's right and wrong to you guys.

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Speaker 1: So actually, maybe you're onto something. Cass says. You may

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Speaker 1: not be seeing anyone special right now, but you are

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Speaker 1: certainly very much loved by many people. Oh that is

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Speaker 1: so beautiful. Thank you, And by the way, to those

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Speaker 1: sending me comforting words, I am completely happy. I am good.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like I'm really desperately trying to convince you. No,

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Speaker 1: I am. I actually am. It's the first time I've

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Speaker 1: been on my own as an adult, really on my own,

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Speaker 1: and it's a great experience. I've needed to do it.

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Speaker 1: It's a wonderful piece and I am so content. So

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Speaker 1: I love you all. Thank you for you beautiful words.

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Speaker 1: But I am good. Thank you so so much. Brac says.

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Speaker 1: It's a tradition in America to celebrate Valentine's Day, but

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Speaker 1: my husband and I forgot all about it. Still married,

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Speaker 1: long time. Can't wait for your show on Monday. Well

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Speaker 1: here it is, my love. I'm reading out your message.

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Speaker 1: Love you all. Thank you so much for tuning in,

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Speaker 1: and I'll see you Tuesday six am. Eat tea for

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Speaker 1: another episode of the aeron Mullinschow. If you enjoyed it,

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Speaker 1: you know what to do. Rank it, rate it, share it,

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Speaker 1: subscribe to it any other things you can think of

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Speaker 1: to do to it that are above board and appropriate

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Speaker 1: to it. Love you all tomorrow, but