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Hour 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: two is underway and President Trump got an early Christmas 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: present with some amazing economic news that came out this morning. 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 4: So here to unpack that with us is former Trump 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 4: economic advisor. 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: And now he's with unleashed prosperity. 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: And that's of course Steven Moore, a longtime guest on 32 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 4: this show and good friend of Charlie's. 33 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: Stephen, welcome back to the show. 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: On a scale of one to ten, how good was 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: this news that broke this morning? 36 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: Four point three growth Q three for GDP. 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 5: It's a really good number. It's a solid number. I'd 38 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 5: put it in an eight or a nine. Trump wants 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 5: five percent growth. We're not quite there yet, although we 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 5: could get there. Incidentally, once you get above three and 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: a half percent economic growth, then the economy grows faster 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 5: than the debt grows. 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 6: And so the burden. 44 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 5: You know, I know everyone listening to the show is 45 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 5: concerned about our massive debt, and one way of lowering 46 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 5: that debt is to grow our way out of it. 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 5: So look, I'm super bullish on this US economy. It's 48 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 5: been a really good twenty twenty five. I don't care 49 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 5: what the polls are showing that all of the indicators 50 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 5: show a very strong growth year. And I think we're 51 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 5: going to see a speed up in twenty twenty six 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 5: because a lot of people will come up to me 53 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 5: on the street and say, hey, Steve Moore, I know 54 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 5: you help. 55 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 6: Write that beautiful bill. Why did I seeing it? 56 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 5: And I tell people, well, because yeah, it hasn't taken 57 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 5: effect yet for tens of millions of Americans on January first, 58 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 5: when they get their first paycheck for the month of January, 59 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 5: they're going to start to see less money with help 60 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 5: from their paycheck, which is exactly what Americans want to see. 61 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: Awesome. 62 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: Okay, well, let's play some of the reactions from the 63 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: news media. Here one eighty nine. 64 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 7: Third quarter numbers. 65 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 6: We're looking for three point three. 66 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 7: Zoom, zoom zoom, four point three percent. Four point three percent. 67 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 7: That is a nice jump. And I know many may 68 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 7: question data gathering, but on the surface, this would be 69 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 7: the strongest quarter going back to the third quarter of 70 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 7: twenty twenty three when it was four point seven. 71 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 6: This is strong. 72 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 7: Three point five on consumption blows away the two point 73 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 7: seven we were expecting. That would be the best since 74 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 7: the last quarter of twenty four. On the price index, 75 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 7: here's some not good news. Three point eight percent on 76 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 7: the price index. That's much higher than two point seven 77 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 7: we were looking for. 78 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: All right, so we hit the first part, you know, 79 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: where we beat the GDP forecast by over a point potentially. 80 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: But what is he talking about with this price index, Steve, Well. 81 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 5: I'm not exactly sure quite honestly, because we got a 82 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 5: really blockbuster number on inflation earlier of the week, late 83 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 5: last week. I guess it was where the inflation rate 84 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 5: fell at two point seven percent. And if you lack 85 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 5: at the last look at the last couple of months, 86 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 5: inflation is headed down to two percent or less. And 87 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 5: as you know, the bad target rate, which is the 88 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 5: rate we should shoot at, is about two percent inflation, 89 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 5: so we're headed in that direction. I think that numbers 90 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: just look overall really strong right now. To me, I 91 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 5: don't quite understand why. If you look at the opinion polls, 92 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 5: about half Americans think the economy is not doing well 93 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: and even more so. And I don't get that because 94 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 5: it is, you know, it is well. 95 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 6: Now. 96 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 5: A lot of people just say it's doing poorly because 97 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 5: they hate Trump, right, you know, you get forty percent of Americans, 98 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 5: no matter how good things are, they going to say 99 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 5: things are bad. But it's going to be harder and harder, 100 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 5: in my opinion, as we move into twenty twenty six 101 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 5: and these good numbers continue to roll in, it's harder 102 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 5: for the left to sustain that narrative that it's not 103 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 5: a good economy. 104 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they're calling it. The line i've seen 105 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 8: is calling it the vibe session. It's the numbers seem good, 106 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 8: but the sense of among a lot of people as 107 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 8: it's bad. Could it be specifically that the situation is 108 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 8: very tough for young people just entering the workforce. 109 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: I know the hiring for entry. 110 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 8: Level jobs this year was very rough for people just 111 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 8: out of college. Is that diverging more than usual from 112 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 8: the fate of other workers in the economy. 113 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 6: Well, let me say a couple of things about that. 114 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 5: I'm smiling when you say that because I graduated from 115 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 5: college in late nineteen eighty two, so I'm an old 116 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 5: part you know, I'm a baby boomer. 117 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 6: Just to get put these things in perspective. 118 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: When I graduated from college, the inflation rate was not 119 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 5: three percent, it was nine percent. The unemployment rate was 120 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 5: not you know, four percent, it was eight percent, and 121 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 5: the mortgage rate was not five percent. 122 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 6: It was like fourteen percent. So for young people to say, oh, gee, 123 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 6: this is a very good economy, they don't. They can't 124 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 6: put this in any kind of perspective. Now. 125 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 5: I think the one thing that where I would like 126 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 5: to see improvement on is on the housing front, because 127 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 5: I have two sons that are in their early thirties 128 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 5: and they're doing fine with their careers, but they cannot 129 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 5: afford to buy a house. 130 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 6: And that's a result of a lot of things. 131 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 5: We could get into it, but it is true that 132 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 5: housing is very expensive right now. 133 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: So what what is driving that? Then? Stephen the housing market. 134 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: If you talk to jd. 135 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: Vance, if you listen to what he's saying, he's saying, 136 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: it's a supply and demand issue. We've just been letting 137 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 4: in too many people, the foreign populations too high, illegals, 138 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. Is that is that really what's 139 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: driving it? 140 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 9: Is? 141 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: There are other core drivers of the housing affordability issue. 142 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 6: No, I thought. 143 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 5: I think it's kind of scapegoating to say it's due 144 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 5: to immigrants, because actually immigrants build housing. 145 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 6: They don't just they don't just take up housing. 146 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 5: I think the real issue here is a couple of things. 147 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 5: One is states and localities around the country have put 148 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 5: in all sorts of restrictions. 149 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 6: I'm building new housing, and so you. 150 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 5: Know, if you don't have an increase in supply, then 151 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 5: the price of something is going to go up. 152 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 6: So we've got to. 153 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 5: Get rid of these restrictions in so many In fact, 154 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 5: in many of the blue cities and suburbs, you can't 155 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: build new housing, and that's a big problem. The other 156 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: thing that is going on here is that people are 157 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 5: locked in to their homes. So we charge a capital 158 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 5: gains tax if you sell your home and you make 159 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: a if you buy sell the home for more than you. 160 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 6: Bought it for. 161 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 5: Well that's almost all Americans because the value of housing 162 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 5: has been going up. And so what people do to 163 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 5: avoid paying that very very significant tax is they don't 164 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 5: sell their home. So people are locked into their houses. 165 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 5: So what I've proposed to Donald Trump is get rid 166 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: of the capital gains tax on housing when it's sold. 167 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 5: And if you do that, you'll have an increase in 168 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 5: supply and prices will come down. 169 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: Well, I got to take issue just a little bit. 170 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: It is a supply and demand issue, and if we 171 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: have more people in the country, then I get that 172 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: a lot of the laborers that are building houses are immigrants. 173 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: But I mean they are going to have to live somewhere, 174 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: so there is a dynamic there that. 175 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, but we've been. 176 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 5: We've been taking you know, for the last thirty years, 177 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 5: we've taken tens of millions of immigrants and housing has 178 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 5: actually been a low cost. So there's but look, I 179 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: take your point, you know, Trump Biden let in, we 180 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 5: don't know exactly how many a. 181 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 6: Lot of illegal immigrants. 182 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 5: I'm very pro legal immigration, but I'm very much against 183 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 5: the illegal immigration. 184 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 6: And that's so I think you have a point there. 185 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough, all right, So let's get this is 186 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: Kevin Hasset. Charlie loved Kevin Hasset because it was like 187 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: this breath of fresh air and optimism when he would 188 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: come on the show. Let's hear what he's having to say. 189 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: One ninety three, President Trump's trade agenda is working. And 190 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: so we got about, you know, one and a half 191 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: percent of the growth on four point three because we 192 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: reduced the trade deficit. We went back and we looked 193 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: at every Blueberg forecast for the main numbers since September 194 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: and found that on average, we outperformed the forecast ninety 195 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: four percent of the time. So if ninety four percent 196 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: of Wall Street economists are getting the macro trends wrong, 197 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: they need to start to think about, Hey, you know, 198 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: maybe Trump's policies are actually way better than we thought, 199 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: and maybe the fake news that says all these terrible 200 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: things about Trump policies should reconsider and you know, grab 201 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: their pencil and redo their economics. 202 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: So, you know, Stephen, it begs the question. And I 203 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: have two questions for you. 204 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: Why do they get so why are these economic economists 205 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: getting so much wrong? 206 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: Is it just tds? 207 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: And then I want to talk about tariffs, you know, 208 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: because that seems to be the big hot button question. 209 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: You could take it in whatever or do you want, Stephen. 210 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 5: So, yeah, it's absolutely true that Trump derangement and syndrome 211 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 5: is a pathological disorder in this country, and it does judge, 212 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 5: it does change people's perceptions of what's happening in the economy, 213 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 5: especially academics and professional economists who keep low balling the 214 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: numbers and they keep getting them wrong. You know, is 215 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 5: as my friend Kevin has I said, ninety four percent 216 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 5: of the time they're wrong. Maybe they should start thinking 217 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 5: that their assessments and their. 218 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 6: Models are completely off base. 219 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: They got the inflation numbers wrong, they got the job 220 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 5: numbers wrong, they got the trade deficit numbers wrong. In fact, 221 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 5: I'm writing a column on this right now as we 222 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 5: speak about. You know, these professional economists probably should turn 223 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: their PhDs back in and say we don't know what 224 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 5: we're talking about, because they are consistently wrong. 225 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: I think economists are simply struggling to catch up with 226 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: a new paradigm, and they underestimate the amount of leverage 227 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: America has as the market the point that everybody wants 228 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 4: to play into and sell into. But you know, Trump's 229 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: flipping the economic models on their heads. President Trump walked 230 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: into a catch twenty two when taking office. Do nothing 231 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: in America would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, 232 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 4: the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead, 233 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train 234 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 4: and buy us some time. But the effects of past 235 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: administration spending are still working through the system, and experts 236 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 4: predict dramatic price increases and market uncertainty. 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Actually, 253 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: what is your favorite Christmas movie? 254 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 3: And why? 255 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 6: Oh Love actually is one of my favorite modern ones. 256 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 6: And then I'd have to go with Miracle on thirty 257 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 6: fourth Street. 258 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 8: Oh wow, you just got an email endorsing that one. 259 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: Four Street. 260 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 6: You guys are so young, you've probably never even seen it. 261 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: I saw the remake. 262 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 6: You gotta look at the old old one. 263 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: No, I've seen it. I've seen it. Might see. 264 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: I grew up in a house that was full of 265 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 4: like John Wayne movies and World War two movies in 266 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 4: the black and white. 267 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 8: We got one, you got a Caleb said their favorite 268 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 8: was Muppets Christmas Carol. 269 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: I need to see that one. I don't think I 270 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: ever have see. 271 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: I like the old school, like the English, like the 272 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: more English, and like you know, gloomy, the better. So 273 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 4: you know, let's let's deal with this tearff question one 274 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: last time here or Blake, you've got an email, right, yeah, listening? 275 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 8: No, yeah, we've got we got an email from someone 276 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 8: I think on the Vibe session topic whire people down 277 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 8: beat and he says it's food Stephen go to the 278 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 8: grocery store and tell me the economy is great, okay, Biden, Oh, 279 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 8: get in, get into what's a response to that? 280 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, Look I get that all the time, 281 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 5: even from my wife, I like says, you know, she 282 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 5: goes to the grocery store, she comes back really angry 283 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 5: about you know the price of steak used to cost you, 284 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 5: you know, twelve dollars and now it's twenty twenty five dollars. 285 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 5: So I get it. I feel your pain, folks. But 286 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 5: if you look overall at the economy, by the way, 287 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 5: bet price are way up. 288 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 6: Guess what. 289 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 5: Pork chops are way down in price. Uh, there's a 290 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 5: lot of things. Cell phones are down in price, Airline 291 00:12:58,760 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 5: airlines are down in price. 292 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 293 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 5: Motels and hotels are down in price. Televisions are down 294 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 5: in price. So overall, the inflation rate is head in 295 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 5: the right direction. But I understand people are angry when 296 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 5: they come back from the grocery store. And I can 297 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: tell you this though, that we're going to start to 298 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 5: see declining grocery prices as not declining prices. But this 299 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 5: is the other thing. Trump keep saying, I'm going to 300 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 5: bring prices down. What he meant to say is I'm 301 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 5: going to bring the rate of inflation down. We don't 302 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 5: want to see deflation. That's even worse for the economy 303 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 5: than inflation. We want to stabilize the prices, as my 304 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 5: friend Steve Forbes would say, and create a sound stable dollar. 305 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 6: And that's exactly what Trump is doing. 306 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: Well, we are seeing energy prices drop. 307 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, gasoline amazing. 308 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: I mean gas is under yeah. 309 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a I think in Cincinnati it's at like 310 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 4: two point fifty a gallon. Uh, might be one of 311 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: the lower parts of the country, Kententuch. 312 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 5: By the way, do you know what state has the 313 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 5: highest gas price? 314 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: California? 315 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, by like like five bucks a gal in there. 316 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's a little lower than that, but you know, 317 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: like it's very structural California has you basically can only 318 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: refine exactly the fuel for cars over here, and they 319 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 4: won't build new refineries and so it's a whole issue. 320 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, but there's a serious point. But there's a serious 321 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 5: point here. If you look at the ten states that 322 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 5: have the highest cost of living, nine of them are 323 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 5: blue states because liberal Democrats cause shortages of everything because 324 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 5: of their stupid policies, high taxes, high regulations, and therefore 325 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 5: the price rises. So if you want lower prices, folks 326 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 5: move to a red state like Florida, like Texas, like Alabama, 327 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 5: like Utah. 328 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 6: That's where prices are low. 329 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 330 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, listen, I'm sympathetic to people that want 331 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: to stay in their home in the blue states, right, 332 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: we don't want people having to leave the locusts that 333 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 4: keep infiltrating. Blake, you had one more question on that, 334 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: or did I missing. 335 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, it was just that one there. 336 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 6: Oh. 337 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 8: I guess we could ask him what he thinks of 338 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 8: the on housing, what he thinks of like fifty year 339 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 8: mortgage topics or whatever. 340 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 6: There's there's very stump. I'm not a big fan of that. 341 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,359 Speaker 5: I think, you know, you know, stretching out the mortgage 342 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 5: is a dumb thing to do. Look, I know Trump's 343 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 5: herd is in the right place on that. But the 344 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: best way to bring the hot price of housing down 345 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 5: is to bring the mortgage rate down. And the way 346 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 5: you bring the mortgage rate down is bring the inflation 347 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 5: rate down, which Trump is doing. Mortgage rates will continue 348 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 5: to fall as prices stabilize. 349 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, real quick, we have two minutes left here. Steven, 350 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 4: you were you knew Charlie for a long time. When 351 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: did you first meet Charlie kirk. 352 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 5: So, I mean I was thinking about that the other day, 353 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 5: and you know, he he I met him when he 354 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 5: was way before you guys did. I think it was 355 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 5: eighteen or nineteen years old, really just getting started. And 356 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 5: my friend Gary Raybyne, who was very close to Charlie, 357 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 5: had a event with Charlie and I think he was 358 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 5: just starting. I think, as I said, just you know, 359 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 5: about eighteen or nineteen years old that I er this, 360 00:15:59,280 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 5: who is this? 361 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 6: He knows kid? 362 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: You know. 363 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 5: You know, he was very ambitious, and I don't say 364 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 5: that in a negative way, in a positive way. 365 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 6: He knew he what he wanted to do. He knew 366 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 6: he wanted to be leader. 367 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 5: And what he started doing is like reading out laugh 368 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 5: or reading Larry Kudlow, reading Steve Moore and educating himself. 369 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 5: And by the way, you can educate yourself way more 370 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 5: by reading the stuff that we write than the crap 371 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 5: that they teach in college on the economics, because most 372 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 5: of it is wrong. That's the reason ninety four percent 373 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: of the professional economists got it wrong. But he, you know, 374 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 5: I just saw his evolution over the next twelve eleven 375 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 5: or twelve years, and every time I saw him, he 376 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 5: just got better and better and better and better. And boy, 377 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just such a sad thing because I 378 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: really believe Charlie Kirk was on path to someday be 379 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 5: President of the United States. 380 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 6: I really believe that. 381 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you guys, I'll never One of my kind 382 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: of lasting memories of this show with Charlie at the 383 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: Helm was every time you'd come on, Steve and we'd 384 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: have this this whole topic prepped, and it would be, 385 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: you know, Charlie to talk about this and this economic 386 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 4: new number came in and what Trump's gonna do or whatever, 387 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 4: and then you guys would just like talk about Chicago 388 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: the whole time. 389 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 6: Well, he and I both loved the Chicago. By the way, 390 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 6: how about those Bears. 391 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 5: They I pulled off a miracle and soldiers Field this weekend, 392 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 5: so we're proud. 393 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: Of you know, the same night as Stephen. 394 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 4: It was the Bears one in that overtime game against 395 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 4: the Packers and the Ducks. 396 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: Don't remind me. 397 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 5: Well, you know what, that really was a miracle that 398 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: the odds of the Bears winning that game with two 399 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: minutes left was. 400 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 6: One and two hundred, one and two hundred. Miracles really 401 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 6: can't happen. 402 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 4: It's a Christmas miracle. Stephen Moore, Thank you from Unleashed Prosperity. 403 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: Thank you Merry Christmas. 404 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 10: This is Lane Schoenberger, chief investment Officer and founding partner 405 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 10: of wy REFI. It has been an honor and a 406 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 10: privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to 407 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 10: endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us and 408 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 10: we look forward to continue doing our partnership with Turning 409 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 10: Point for years to come. 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She is 430 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: the host of Bata with an exclamation mark on News Nation. 431 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: Bati, you have we were talking on the phone. 432 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 4: You've been watching everything from that happened at Amfest from 433 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 4: Afar and you, you know, you were so complimentary to 434 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 4: me and to turning point about the event, because I 435 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 4: think maybe. 436 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: You were surprised by it a little bit. 437 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 4: You were a little nervous, little trepidation going in when 438 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 4: you saw the speaker list. And then tell us what 439 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: you're thirty thousand foot view? What was the vibe for 440 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 4: you watching from Afar? 441 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 9: First of all, thank you so much for having me Andrew, 442 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 9: I have to say, I'm like unexpectedly getting a little 443 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 9: bit emotional because it's my first time on since Charlie 444 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 9: was taking. Yeah, he meant so much to me. Actually, 445 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 9: there's a woman on my street whose car has We 446 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 9: live in Brooklyn, South Brooklyn, so it's you know, not 447 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 9: you know, hipster Brooklyn, but her car is just festooned 448 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 9: with stickers about Charlie. And I was literally staking out 449 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 9: the car because I didn't know who it belonged to 450 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 9: and I just wanted to thank her. And the first 451 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 9: time I saw her getting out of the car, I 452 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 9: just ran overturned. We just had the most amazing conversation 453 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 9: about what he meant to this country, and so thank 454 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 9: you so much for having me. I think about him 455 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 9: every single day. I thought that the America Fest you 456 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 9: put on was incredible, incredible. It was so important because 457 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 9: you allowed the debate to be aired, and I think 458 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 9: we get really attached to our positions in this country, 459 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 9: and then we get really attached to the idea that, 460 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 9: you know, we have to convince people that were right, 461 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 9: and we forget that the most important thing is I 462 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 9: think what Charlie really stood for, which was the view 463 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 9: that more unites us than divides us as Americans, and 464 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 9: that you have to have the conversation, you have to 465 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 9: trust your fellow Americans, and you have to bring that 466 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 9: love he had even to people that don't agree with you. 467 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 9: I think like that is the thing that we really lost, 468 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 9: was that spectacle of him going to those college campuses 469 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 9: and talking to people whose views I know he thought 470 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 9: were bad and wrong and dangerous, but you could still 471 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 9: see the love that he brought to them. And that's 472 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 9: my New Year's resolution, is to be more like that, 473 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 9: even especially when I'm talking about the things that mattered 474 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 9: to me the most. And I just felt that you, really, 475 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 9: you and Erica made that happen. You aired the debate 476 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 9: and everybody could see it for themselves, and because this 477 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 9: is the greatest country on Earth and the American people 478 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 9: are the most incredible people on planet Earth, it reminded 479 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 9: me to just trust that process of seeing the debate 480 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 9: and hearing the debate and listening to both sides. So 481 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 9: I just I watched every minute of it. I was 482 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 9: glued to it, and I'm so proud of you, and 483 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 9: just again like to see Charlie's legacy being carried on 484 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 9: in such a fulsome way was really moving to me 485 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 9: and really powerful. 486 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: Wow. Well, thank you, thank you for saying that, Batya, 487 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: it means a lot. And I know Blake. 488 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: Blake's in studio there in Phoenix, and you know, we 489 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: we both sort of watched everything play out, and we 490 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 4: saw the online chatter, and you know, the elephant in 491 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: the room is sort of this foreign policy debate, the 492 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: Israel debate, but also this debate. Ben kind of kicked 493 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: things off on night one calling out some of the 494 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 4: people that he had grievances with, and then they ended 495 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: up taking the stage later, some of them at least, 496 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 4: and kind of throwing it back. 497 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: So it, like you said, it was this this. 498 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 4: Debate, this airing of the family business, as Erica called it. 499 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: And but then we led up to Blake. 500 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 4: Feel free if you want to chime in on that 501 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: and on that point before I move on, because I 502 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: do have a question for Batya. 503 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 8: No, let's get into it. 504 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: Let's get into it, all right. 505 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 4: So you on your show had some words for I 506 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: mean directed at JD Vance and I want to give 507 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: you a chance to kind of talk about that. 508 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and play two of nine. 509 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 11: For those already anointing the vice president is the GOP 510 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 11: nominee for twenty twenty eight. 511 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 6: You might want to slow your role. 512 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 11: Leadership is about having principles and standing up for them, 513 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 11: no matter the blowback. Not being afraid of offending actual 514 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 11: nazis all. 515 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 4: Right, So that seems to be the cliff. I see 516 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 4: you smiling there, So I am obviously team JD. 517 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 3: I think he's an amazing leader. 518 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 4: I thought his speech at Amfest was morally clear. He 519 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: condemned anti semitism, he condemned racism, di anti white racism, 520 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: anti Asian racism, and it felt like to me being there, 521 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: it was kind of like Dad's in the room. Settle down, kids, 522 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 4: here's the north star, here's where we're going. By the way, 523 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 4: we certainly are not trying to anoint JD vance anything. 524 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: It was sort of this if you're in turning point circles. 525 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 4: Charlie was talking about that we have JD's back one 526 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: thousand percent, and he hopes he runs, and if he runs, 527 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 4: we've got his back, you know. So it was kind 528 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 4: of this thing that's been said out loud forty eight times. 529 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 4: I think Erica was just kind of like, let's just 530 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 4: say it out loud, you know, let's just do it here. 531 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 4: But from your perspective, why did you say what you said? 532 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 4: And you know, what is it going to take to 533 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: kind of get you to come around on the JD 534 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: Jdvans conversation. 535 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 9: I want to believe I'm so honored to be able 536 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 9: to have this conversation with you, Like you have no 537 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 9: idea what it means to me to be here with 538 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 9: you in the room on so many issues. I think 539 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 9: JD is spot on. You know, my top issues I 540 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 9: would say is I think what President Trump represented, which 541 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 9: was you know, being pro worker, pro labor. The dignity 542 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 9: of working class Americans is like my number one issue, 543 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 9: which entails you know, getting to immigration zero right away 544 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 9: for as long as it takes, you know, in order 545 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 9: to make sure that Americans have access to the Amya 546 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 9: dream before we start giving it to everybody else. On 547 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 9: foreign policy, I'm whare that I guess the fifty percent 548 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 9: of the turning points draw Phole was like I see 549 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 9: Israel as a great ally among great allies. Our interests 550 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 9: are frequently aligned, but not always. Sometimes these Raelies I 551 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 9: think overstep and I've been, you know, glad to see 552 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 9: President Trump have a really strong idea of when our 553 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 9: interests are aligned and when they diverge, and choosing American 554 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 9: interests when he needs to, you know, so on all 555 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 9: of that stuff, I feel like, you know, very much 556 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 9: on the same page. Certainly don't want to go back 557 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 9: to the like Rhino pre Trump version of the GOP. 558 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 9: I think that would be a huge mistake and a 559 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 9: huge betrayal of the American working class, which is like 560 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 9: where my allegiances lie as a Jewish American, But I 561 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 9: will say that I think there have been podcasters out 562 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 9: there who have been saying things that make me, as 563 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 9: an American and as a Jew, feel like I'm questioning 564 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 9: whether this movement wants me, for example, platforming people who 565 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 9: think that Hitler was not the villain of World War two, 566 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 9: that's just going to make every Jewish person like somebody 567 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 9: a podcaster agreeing with that point of view. The way 568 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 9: that Tucker Carlson seemed to is going to make every 569 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 9: Jewish person feel like, wait a minute, is that actually 570 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 9: a question? And so when JD says, well, I'm you know, 571 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 9: close to Tucker Carlson, I disagree with him about a 572 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 9: lot of things, but I'm not going to be clear 573 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 9: about what those things are. That leaves people thinking, well, 574 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 9: you know, is that one of the things or not. 575 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Blake, I want to get you in on 576 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 4: this conversation because you obviously have a really long conversation 577 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 4: relationship with with Tucker, but I want to show that 578 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 4: you mentioned the straw pole. Go ahead and throw one 579 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: seventy eight up on the screen. It shows fifty three 580 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: point four percent consider Israel an ally thirty three point 581 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 4: three percent our top ally. Only thirteen point three percent 582 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 4: say that Israel is not an ally of the United States. 583 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 4: So despite all of you know, the handwringing, all the 584 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 4: loud voices online, we still are at you know, eighty 585 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 4: seven percent of Amfest attendees consider, you know, Israel. 586 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 3: Either our top ally or an ally. 587 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 4: And you know, maybe what you're seeing in the shift 588 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: in the dialogue is more to you know, one ally 589 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 4: of many as opposed to our top alley. Maybe that's 590 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: the shift you've seen in the Trump era, Blake, I want, 591 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 4: I want to give you a chance to respond, just 592 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: because of your relationship. 593 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so a few things. 594 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 8: I totally understand where you're coming through, specifically on some 595 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 8: of that. Yeah, the Hitler stuff that's popped up more, 596 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 8: I've I will say, I've been hearing stuff like that 597 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 8: honestly my entire adult life. 598 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: It bubbles up. 599 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 8: I think there is an element where some people find 600 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 8: it interesting in a transgressive sense or something. And I'd 601 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 8: want to say, I hope it has no modern political manifestations, 602 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 8: but it does. It does pop up with a degree 603 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 8: that if I were a Jewish American, I think I 604 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 8: would find it disturbing as more disturbing as you do. 605 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 3: I don't get why. 606 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 8: Some people think, in this particular political moment, relitigating an 607 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 8: eighty year old war's morality is of great importance. 608 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 3: But some people like that. I will say, I'm some 609 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: of that. 610 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 9: Can I just jump in for a second, sure, Like 611 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 9: when you first of all, I think it's not just 612 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 9: Jewish Americans. I think every American should feel worried about 613 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 9: this question of whether or was truly Yeah, but I 614 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 9: mean beyond that when you say you're like, I don't 615 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 9: know why somebody would bring that up, but you know, 616 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 9: like that, I know why they would bring it up 617 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 9: because they you know what. 618 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 8: I'm saying, Like, that's fair, that's fair, There's there is 619 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 8: it's unfortunate. I do think that pattern is real for 620 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 8: certainly at least some of the people doing it. A 621 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 8: big picture, I recognize Vice President Vance and everyone in 622 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 8: this coalition. We have a tough challenge. We asked we 623 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 8: were doing one of our exclusives interviews. I think it 624 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 8: was when we had Megan I think it was actually 625 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 8: when we had Michael Noles on and we just asked 626 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 8: the crowd, raise your hands. Do you agree more with 627 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 8: Ben Shapiro or more with Tucker, and it. 628 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: Was about fifty to fifty. 629 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 8: Ultimately, what we've been saying is we have to be 630 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 8: able to build a coalition that is for it. And 631 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 8: what I liked with Vice President Vance was he's saying, 632 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 8: we are going to define this movement by positive things, 633 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 8: by positive affirmations, and those are going to be good 634 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 8: affirmations that make us a superior alternative to the left. 635 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 8: And I think if Vice President Vance is setting a 636 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 8: positive example, and if he's taking on a leadership role 637 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 8: that shows that positive example, he can shape the movement 638 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 8: in a good direction that is good on policy, good 639 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 8: on unifying rhetoric. And instead of having to go around 640 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 8: playing place and disavowing people, what you are is what 641 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 8: you are avowing is going to make people into something better. 642 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 8: And I think that's an example Charlie himself tried to 643 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 8: set while he was with us. 644 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 9: I was truly humbled by how right Andrew and Charlie 645 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 9: and you, Blake were about how you set up the 646 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 9: whole America fest. I just came away feeling like it 647 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 9: could not have gone better, and that was because of 648 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 9: the disparity between me and the views that I heard there. 649 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, This is Andrew Colvett, executive producer of The 650 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk Show. Berna is proud to continue supporting Charlie 651 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: Kirk's mission and the important work of turning Point USA 652 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 4: because empowering Americans to defend their freedoms begins with protecting themselves, 653 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 4: their families, and their communities. The Burna less Lethal Launcher 654 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 4: looks like a firearm, but it isn't one. 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Is 673 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: there like a Hanuka movie? 674 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 9: I don't even know, Okay, I just every year I 675 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 9: watch all of the Christmas rom coms, And the thing 676 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 9: about them is is that they're all exactly the same, 677 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 9: and they're all equally delightful and delicious. So I couldn't 678 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 9: even tell you which is the best one because I 679 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 9: can just watch them again. 680 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 5: Is it? 681 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: Are there are there traditions? I know? 682 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 8: I know Jewish Americans often eat Chinese is on Christmas? 683 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 8: Are there traditional movies they watch that are like, emphatically 684 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 8: not Christmas movies or something? 685 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 9: Well, the Big Labowski is often on the list, for sure, 686 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 9: the dude buds. You know, I'm an Orthodox Jews, so 687 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 9: the traditions of like secular liberal Jews, I'm not as 688 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 9: familiar with them, you know, to us Christmas is. It's 689 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 9: funny because one of the things is, you know, like 690 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 9: there's certain texts that you're supposed to study and that 691 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 9: you're not supposed to study on Christmas? Dude to like 692 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 9: so you know, there's that conversation as well. 693 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 4: But this is way more complicated than I realized. This 694 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: was a hard question. 695 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: The JD. Van's questions easy, all right. 696 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 4: I accidentally opened up a whole can of worms asking 697 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: a Jewish woman what her favorite Christmas movie. It's not 698 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: a fair question. It's not a fair question. I apologize. 699 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 4: Bati did wonderful with it, though. Christmas rom coms, what 700 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: are those? 701 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 3: Even? It's like love actually is one? Love? Actually? 702 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 6: Love? 703 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 9: Actually? 704 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: Well, what's the one with? 705 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: What's the one with John Cusack and the British Goal 706 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 4: where they they they they meet and then they. 707 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: Try and find each other again. I'm forgetting it. That's 708 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: that's another Christmas movie kind of There's a. 709 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 9: Really good movie called The Family Stone. 710 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: See you and I have wildly different movie taste. Spot there. 711 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 4: This is this is going, this is spinning out of control. 712 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 4: We need to bring it back, ran it back, all right. 713 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 4: So my here's my pointed question for actually why UK. 714 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 4: So you've got guys like Steve Bannon, he calls himself 715 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 4: a Zionist. You've got Matt Gates, who just did the 716 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 4: interview with Tucker Carlson. He calls himself pro Israel. You've 717 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: got a lot. Meghan Kelly has been traditionally extremely pro Israel. 718 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: Their biggest beef is that they feel and and by 719 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: the way, Charlie had this conversation with Meghan, you know, 720 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: just before he was assassinated. Actually it was just this 721 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 4: feeling from like the gentile friends of the Jewish people 722 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: and Israel that there is a moral blackmail campaign where 723 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: the pressure just feels like, you know, if you're only 724 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 4: with us eighty percent of the way, we're not gonna 725 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 4: be happy and we're gonna we're gonna call you names. 726 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 6: It. 727 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: I do find it counterproductive. I'm not saying everybody's guilty 728 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 4: of it. I'm literally about to send a video to 729 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: Dennis Prager wishing him a merry Christmas because he loves Christmas. 730 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 4: And you know, I love you like completely, even when 731 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 4: I disagree with you. But that's so, what is that 732 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 4: dynamic and what do you do about that? Do you 733 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 4: feel like the response after October seventh is driving away 734 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 4: friends of Israel. 735 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 9: I'm going to give an analogy. Okay, I am a 736 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 9: person who feels that we should not be funding the 737 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 9: Ukraine war. Okay, I've thought that from the beginning. Two 738 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 9: weeks in. Putin was like, if you all just recognize 739 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 9: the status quo and ratify it, that CRIMEA belongs to Russia, 740 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 9: which he had already taken eight years earlier. You know 741 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 9: that the dun Boss is independent, which there was a 742 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 9: civil war there, and that Ukraine is not part of NATO. 743 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 9: I'll withdraw immediately. 744 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: I thought we. 745 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 9: Should have pushed for that. You know, we had gas 746 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 9: prices were insane the time. I just didn't understand why, 747 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 9: you know, a few hundred kilometers in Eastern Europe was 748 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 9: the responsibility of the American working class to bear. Now, 749 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 9: if you hold that view, which I do, you will 750 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 9: get letters snail mail delivered to your home with death 751 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 9: threats from people who are pro Ukraine. The entire Ukraine 752 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 9: lobby will come after you. They will impugne your character, 753 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 9: They will call you a Putin puppet. Doesn't matter how 754 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 9: many times you say Putin is a thug and a murderer, 755 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 9: which is what I believe. The people who feel very 756 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 9: strongly about this issue will do everything they can to 757 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 9: get you to shut up. And you know what, Andrew. 758 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 9: That is their job. I don't hold that against them. 759 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 9: And the idea that that would make me embrace Russia 760 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 9: as the good guys because the Ukrainians are behaving insane 761 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 9: at the extremes. That's insane because I don't answer to 762 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 9: the inverse of what the most extreme people in a 763 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 9: lobby are doing. I answer to my God. I have 764 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 9: to face myself in the mirror. 765 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 3: So you know. 766 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 9: And the fact that there are these loons at the 767 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 9: extreme of the Ukraine lobby that doesn't even influence how 768 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 9: I think about Zelensky, or the Ukrainian people, or the 769 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 9: vast majority of the people who think we should be 770 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 9: funding the war in Ukraine. I have a policy difference 771 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 9: that makes me very unpopular with a very big group 772 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 9: of people, and the extremes of them are extreme in 773 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 9: their opposition to me and think I should be dead 774 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 9: for having my view. The idea that I would allow 775 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 9: that to influence my view would make me an unserious person. 776 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 9: So do I think there are people in the Israel 777 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 9: lobby who embarrass me because they are extreme? Sure? Do 778 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 9: I think Israel itself has in some ways behaved badly, 779 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 9: especially vis a vis our president the greatest friend the 780 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 9: Jewish people I've ever had. Yes, does that if somebody 781 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 9: allows that to determine whether they interview Hollocos survivors. It's 782 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 9: anybody telling you that that is an excuse to become antisemitic, 783 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 9: I think is not a morally serious person. That is 784 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 9: a person who is not answering to their God. That 785 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 9: is a person who is answering to the inverse of 786 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 9: the algorithm. And I look down on that. 787 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I know that you think some of 788 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 4: the reaction has been counterproductive. So I just wanted to 789 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 4: give you an opportunity to say that. And listen, I 790 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 4: am going to convince you on jade Vance. It's just 791 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 4: gonna happen. I'm gonna take a bow, and the Internet's 792 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 4: gonna know because Jadevan is a good man. 793 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: And I know you. 794 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 4: Want to believe, and I know you're you're waiting for 795 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 4: you You're you're waiting for You're waiting for the signal 796 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 4: to proceed. 797 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna get you there. Batya. 798 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 4: Thank you for joining on this twenty third of December, 799 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 4: two days before our Christian Christmas. 800 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 10: For more on many of these stories and news, you 801 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 10: can trust go to Charliekirk dot com.