1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: What you're about to watch is actively being lied about 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: by city leaders, by the national media, and by people 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: who want chaos instead of the truth. Last week of Minneapolis, 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: an ice agent was hit by a car. There's a 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: video from the agent's own cell phone proving it. You 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: can hear the engine rev you could hear the command drive, 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: baby drive, and yet politicians and cable networks are still 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: telling you it never happened. Why is that that lie 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: has consequences Because while they pretend it didn't happen, mobs 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: are stalking federal agents at their homes, They're breaking into hotels, 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: blocking roads, and the local police are being ordered to 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: stand down. But that's not the most disturbing part. In 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: this interview. You're going to hear investigative journalist Liz Colin 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: reveal why federal authorities have now stepped in and why 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: serious questions are resurfacing about elon Omar's citizenship that have 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: never been answered ever. This is in partisan. It's about 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: the truth and what happens when an entire city is 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: pushed into an alternative reality. 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of an alternate reality here, Joe, But 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: we've talked about that, I think again and again, Yeah, 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: we were able to obtain that cell phone video that 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: shows from the agent's point of view what took place 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: last Wednesday with Renee Good. You can clearly hear he's 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: hit by the vehicle, the engine is revving. You have 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: Renee's wife saying, drive, baby, drive. You can hear that 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: on that cell phone clip. Also, and DHS release video 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: on Saturday with a little bit more of the story 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: as well, showing that that vehicle was parked there for 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: several minutes. Many vehicles were actually part of this blockade 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: and they are honking their horns and creating this very 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: chaotic scene throughout that Minneapolis neighborhood on Wednesday morning. I 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: will say we have very good sources over at Alphinews 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: because we really are dedicated to telling the truth. You 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: can see again and again each day how the mainstream 35 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: media and Minnesota is framing this thing, doing their best 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: to continue to incite a lot of this and fan 37 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: the flames rather than simply telling the truth about what 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: took place that morning. So that's a little bit more 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: about out how we obtained the video. But again, you know, 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: with a lot of these incidents, it's so important just 41 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: to release what is out there. We have seen the crowds. 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: There's a lot of money pouring in to Minneapolis, and 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: we have a well organized activist activist groups that take 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: the streets in these situations. But I do think that 45 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: the video helped to change many minds. 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: If there were questions, I. 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Think so as well. I compared and contrasted to your 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: coverage of George Floyd had the bodycam video been released 49 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: though George Floyd, immediately, you probably don't have riots in Minneapolis. 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: And the reason why we all saw he was in 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: the car. He said, I can't be in the car 52 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: in claustrophobic and Chauvin says, we'll bring you to the ground. 53 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: He says, yeah, bring me to the ground. I mean, 54 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: if we see all of that, and then we know 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: about the Feednyl and his system and so on, you 56 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: probably don't have this so called summer of love. This 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: was out there pretty quickly. The first video we saw, 58 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: we see the one agent trying to open her door 59 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: because he said get out of the car. She doesn't 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: get out, and then he puts his arm in the 61 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: in the actual vehicle, she puts it in reverse, puts 62 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: it and we can't really see the other ice agent, 63 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: because in the foreground is the first ice agent. The 64 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: second video we see is from overhead through some trees, 65 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: where you clearly see him being pushed away by the car. 66 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: He got hit by it, but it's a far shot. 67 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: It's a really long shot. The one that you release 68 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: shows definitively unless the guy is such a good actor 69 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: and flint. Second, he thought to himself, let me pretend 70 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: on my camera that I'm being hit and then shoot 71 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: this lady. Of course that can't happen, so definitively we 72 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: know he was struck by the vehicle. Jacob Fry has 73 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: to admit that now. So what he says is, oh, 74 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: it was like he got hit by by a refrigerator door, 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: no problem. He danced away or he jogged away jolly 76 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: or something like that. So is it on him? Is 77 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: it on walls? Is it on the people who aren't 78 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: critically thinking? Whose fault? Is it? That if you and 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: I go out there right now, that people on the 80 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: streets will still say that he wasn't hit, that he 81 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: executed her. 82 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah again, I think it's it's sort of like people 83 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: have their their minds made up and they don't want 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes the facts. Common sense is not common among these groups. 85 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: I think we see that as well. We saw thirty 86 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: people arrested over the weekend Joe in Minneapolis. They were 87 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: damaging property to downtown hotels, blocking traffic. They went into 88 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: hotels that they thought ICE agents were staying, breaking windows, 89 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: spray painting buildings. Many tense situations still playing out on 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: the streets today. They're following ICE agents doing their jobs, 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: and there's a lot more of them here. 92 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 3: Now. 93 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: We have these paid ICE agitators, but they're getting in 94 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: their way, creating chaos. Many videos out there on x 95 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: mobs of people attempting to block traffic, record ICE officers. 96 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: I can see for myselves just the databases they keep 97 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: in real time of what they're doing to basically stock 98 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 2: these officers and keep them from doing their jobs. 99 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: Here in Minnesota, it. 100 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: Is Liz Collin. Go to Alphanus dot Orgalfanues dot org, 101 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: go follow her Liz coln over two els I n 102 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: over On. Actually's a great follow incredible report, incredible anchor, 103 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: incredible journalist. So as we're watching this unfold, we find 104 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: out more about the actual ICE agent. We find out 105 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: this is the same guy that in Minnesota was dragged 106 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: by an illegal alien trying to get away from him, 107 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: thirty some odd stitches in his leg and comes back 108 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: on the job. And he's back in Minnesota and he's 109 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: doing the job again, and now he's vilified. He's married 110 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: to this doesn't matter, but he's married to an immigrant, 111 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: So you can't say he's anti immigrant. He's a guy 112 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: who actually put his life on the line that day 113 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: being dragged by an illegal alien. Yet somehow we're supposed 114 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: to believe he's a Nazi from nineteen forty three. Again, 115 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: we're not going to break through the mindset of the 116 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: idiots that pay people to go and do what they're 117 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: gonna do. Why do you think that people of Minnesota, 118 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: the good people of Minnesota, those who are falling for 119 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the okie duck buy into an idiot like Jacob Fry 120 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: My word, Nott, youre is the idiot. He's dancing around 121 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: with the Somali flag, he's eating Somali food, looks like 122 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: he can't hit limp, he's pretending he can. He's speaking 123 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 1: Somali on these videos. Why are they buying his his act? 124 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't understand. This is a guy from Northern Virginia, Liz. 125 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: He's not some guy from Minneapolis born and raised. He's 126 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: some activists from like Alexandria who showed up in Minnesota 127 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: to sort of push that progressive way. Why are they 128 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: buying him? 129 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: You know, I think it's pretty convenient timing too, and 130 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: you would hope people have more common sense than this Joe. 131 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: They're trying to deflect from this massive fraud investigation, massive 132 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: frauds that that are being investigated, I should say, by 133 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: the federal government at this point. You can clearly see 134 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: how they're trying to deflect that by now. But yeah, 135 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: I mean, this is something that I've questioned myself for 136 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: a long time. But I will say that I hear 137 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: from so many Minnesotans on a daily, gosh, on an 138 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: hourly basis, frankly, that say, you know, thank you for 139 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: speaking up for us. They're embarrassed by looking at these 140 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: scenes as well. So this is not something that speaks 141 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: to what most of us believe here. In fact, recent 142 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: polling suggests that most people support the ice efforts in Minnesota. 143 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: We recently ran a poll about just. 144 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: That it is illegal to block the road, it's illegal 145 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: to obstruct justice, it's illegal to get in the way 146 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: of a federal officer doing his or her job. All 147 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: of that is illegal. But now you've got a police 148 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: chief and this Brian O'Hara guy, who I think things 149 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: he's Somali two, who will not help ICE, will not 150 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: go and arrest people for breaking local ordinances or city code. 151 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: He won't go and make sure people understand that your 152 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: First Amendment doesn't cover you beeping your horn for three 153 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 1: straight minutes like renee Good did and blocking the ability 154 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: of ICE agents to do their jobs. So, if you've 155 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: got no local law enforcement, then they show up on 156 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: CNN O'Hara and Fry and say, well, nobody let us 157 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: know how many or coming. Nobody even contacted us. Why 158 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: would the federal government contact them? So I guess a 159 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: long question shorter. If they're not going to uphold the 160 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: law through law enforcement in Minneapolis and through the state 161 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: of Minnesota, I sketch to do it, they just do. 162 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: So what's the argument from these people that are in 163 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: power in that city that they don't have to help ICE? Whatsoe? 164 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: Even the guy in Shoice, after that stupid call that 165 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: said we're not going to give you assistant, said these 166 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: ICE agents are our law enforcement officers. We're going to 167 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: support them. We're going to give them back up. They 168 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: are our brothers in blue. Even they get it in Chicago. 169 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: For God's sake, what is it going to take for 170 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: these people in Minneapolis or in Minnesota understand, either get 171 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: out of the way, because I think, oh, this is crazy. 172 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: I think Ohera and Fry can be arrested for getting 173 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: in the way as well. I think Walls can be 174 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: arrested for inciting all of this. 175 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: Well. 176 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: And I think that's again why so many people are 177 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: so thankful that the federal government is here taking a 178 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: look at all of this. They've kind of come in 179 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: here to go ahead and investigate so many different things 180 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: all at once. You almost need a federal takeover to 181 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: get to the bottom of this. But let me just 182 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: highlight a couple other things, Joe, that were said this 183 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: week here. And you had Congresswoman Ilhan Omar had plenty 184 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: to say to protesters. She said this, we are going 185 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: to make sure that these people pay for what they 186 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: have done to us, referring to Ice. And you also 187 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: have our Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan, who's running for a 188 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: Senate seat now at the moment, but she's serving under walls. 189 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: She told the crowd this weekend to put their bodies 190 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: on the line. These are their words. 191 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 3: I agree. 192 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: There is so much there to talk about, how they 193 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: continue to incite this and what you have to go 194 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: ahead and recognize just the irony. Also, the state is 195 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: so upset that the Feds will not let them investigate 196 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: this incident. Right, We've heard a lot about that, the 197 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: FBI taking over the investigation into the shooting death of 198 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: Renee Good, and local officials. Mayor Fry are saying, you know, 199 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: they don't trust trust the federal government. Well, I'm pretty 200 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: sure that feeling is mutual from the Fed's coming in. 201 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: And just to highlight that point, you had the BCA 202 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: in charge of the investigation into the death of George Floyd. 203 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: Well what happened. 204 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: It took six months for them to go back to 205 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: the vehicle of George Floyd where they then recovered pills 206 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: containing methemphetamine and feanolouldn't that had been nice to know 207 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: early on in the investigation. 208 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Well, you're right, I mean, you nailed it. I'm going 209 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: to add to it a little bit when you say, 210 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: get the f out of our city, we don't want 211 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: you here. When you're the police chief and you say, 212 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: if you see somebody who's dressed as law enforcement, they 213 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: might not really be law enforcement. They could be kidnapping 214 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: somebody called nine to one one. Why the blank would 215 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: anybody in the federal government trust anybody in the local 216 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: government to work with And by the way, there is 217 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,479 Speaker 1: no requirement for the federal government to include anybody in Minnesota, 218 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: none at all. Have they worked together before. Sure, somebody 219 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: robs a bank, it's a federal crime, you work together 220 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: with the local law enforcement. I get that. But when 221 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: you preemptively say we hate you, we're not going to 222 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: help you, we think you're disgusting, We're going to call 223 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: nine one one on you, and people should put their 224 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: bodies in front of you. Why would you then say, hey, 225 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: we had a shooting in your city. You want to 226 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: work together. You wouldn't. 227 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: Else say Joe, that I hear from cops all the 228 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: time across the states, specifically in Minneapolis too, that they're 229 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: embarrassed by what has been allowed to play out and 230 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: just demoralized at these scenes. They were there on Friday night. 231 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: They want to start arrest these people are breaking windows, 232 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: at hotels in downtown Minneapolis. Well, what happens. The DNR 233 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: officers are out there in the state patrol and MPD 234 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: has to basically go hands off and get out of there. 235 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: You actually had the police chief on camera what I 236 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: would call retreating back to the squad cars being chased 237 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: out of there by a mob. 238 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: And the reason why he was there is to try 239 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: to get the squad car out of the mob that 240 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: they've allowed to happen. It's such a strange circular screw 241 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: up in Minnesota right now. It blows my mind. I 242 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: want to get into Tim Walls and whether his job 243 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: is on the line, because you're starting to hear some 244 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: rumblings out of the state legislature. But you mentioned elon Omar. 245 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: I've got to talk to you about this because there 246 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: was a measure brought up by Nancy Mace in the 247 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: US House of Representatives to just see the immigration records 248 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: of elan Omar, and it was turned down by both 249 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats. And then they came back and said, 250 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: if you asked nicely, maybe we can see it. Liz, 251 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: in your reporting in what you know, is there a 252 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: question about whether she was ever even naturalized. 253 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: There are many questions that that still remain unanswered. There's 254 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: an awful lot of evidence there Joe to say that 255 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: she did not Her birth date in fact changes basically 256 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: overnight when someone brought this to the attention of her 257 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: office years ago, basically saying that she was not eighteen 258 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: at the time. And we've done many stories about this, 259 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: not only that, but committing what one would consider to 260 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: be immigration fraud by basically marrying her brother so he 261 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: could be a US citizen. An awful lot of documentation 262 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: about that as well. So she's up there with with, 263 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: you know, one of the many in Minnesota that I 264 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: think many people would would like to just are their 265 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: consequences for these you know, lives, for these frauds, ongoing 266 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: frauds on many levels. 267 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: Joe, I know how good you are at what you do. 268 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: Have you seen paperwork that she's been naturalized. Have you 269 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: seen pictures of her waving the American flag, happy at 270 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: the ceremony? Have you seen anything that would suggest she's 271 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: a naturalized American citizen. 272 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: No, there's nothing along those lines at all to support anything. 273 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: Aj Kern, in fact, is the name of the woman 274 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: who brought this to light. And I recently interviewed her 275 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: and she went through all of her documentation. She has 276 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: spent years following the trail. But you're right, there is 277 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: nothing to suggest that there was any type of ceremony 278 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: or anything that that happened claiming that she became naturalized 279 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: through her father. And there's no paperwork to even suggest 280 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: that he was ever a US citizen. In fact, a 281 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: lot of evidence to point to the fact that he 282 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 2: never was a US citizen. So how could she then, 283 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: you know, be a citizen. 284 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: Well, she couldn't. It is Liz Collins, Senior reporter Alpha 285 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Neus at alphaus dot org. Follow Liz and alphaanus over 286 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: on X. I saw her on with Jake Tapper or somebody. 287 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: I think it was Tapper, maybe not. It was some 288 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: idiot over on CNN. My word again, not yours. And 289 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: she's sitting there and she literally said, this ice agent 290 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: dove in front of the car so that he can 291 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: shoot Renee Good. This is Omar sitting there, and Jake 292 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: Tapper has seen the video that you released. He knows 293 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: that the officer was hit, he knows that it was 294 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: in self defense. He doesn't push back whatsoever. So I 295 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: mean that's just me making a statement. But let me 296 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: ask you this. It's a rhetorical softball, Liz, but I 297 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: want you to hit it out of the park. Why 298 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: do you think Jake Tapper and Dana Bash and all 299 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: these idiots on these networks they just want to kiss 300 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: up to the left. Why don't they just look at 301 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: her and let her answer the question, did you marry 302 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: your brother to help him immigrate? Here? Just look her 303 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: in the face and say, did you marry your brother? 304 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Why don't they do that? 305 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: I think you're afraid perhaps at the answers. This is 306 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: the basically the environment that I left after being a 307 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: reporter and anchor in corporate media in Minnesota for fifteen years. 308 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: Don't ever expect questions. 309 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: Like that from the robotic media of Minnesota. In fact, 310 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: I was highlighting just on my X page recently, Joe, 311 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: about how they're covering this shooting. I encourage people to 312 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: see that for themselves. But you have reporters on the 313 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: scene of these faced offs with ice agents and they're 314 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: talking about how the agents open fire on them. Well, 315 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: they're you know, deploying tear gas right to get the 316 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: crowds back. But this is how they're phrasing this as 317 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: if they're at war with these ICE agents. Again, just 318 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: trying to incite all of this. And you also have 319 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: the newspaper, the Star Tribune and Fox nine, which is 320 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: the Fox affiliate here. They would like to hear of 321 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: different ICE reports in the community so they can know 322 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: about them. They're encouraging people to shoot video tell us 323 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: where this is happening, and you know, we'll go ahead 324 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: and keep you anonymous, but we want to see these 325 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: standoffs in real time. 326 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: It's really quite sick, to be honest. 327 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: What mind boggles me is that you saw a CBS 328 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: reporter out there the other day shut down during the 329 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: live shot because she was being shouted down during the 330 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: live shot. This is CBS, for God's sakes, and still 331 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: CBS isn't saying these people are nuts, these people are 332 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: out of control and ICE needs more support. And then 333 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: I saw Ali Bradley, my friend from NewsNation, was just 334 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: sitting there getting just got done doing a live shot. 335 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: Some woman started screaming at her, very thick Minnesota accent. 336 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: She was obviously a local, screaming at her the F word. 337 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: This the F word that some guys taking the video 338 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: and Ali because of her safety had to say to 339 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: her cameraman, let's go to a different position. We can't 340 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: stay here. So even with the media seeing the media 341 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: being treated like crap, I mean, is this is this 342 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: weird suicidal empathy so deep in the media that they 343 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: can't even say, hey, they've turned on us as well. 344 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: Maybe we should take a different slant on this. 345 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: You bring up some great points, Joe, I really cannot 346 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: understand it for the life of me. 347 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: But but yeah, to kind. 348 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: Of you see this like cheerleading behavior, to sort of 349 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: cheer this on, right, and this, you know, pitting themselves 350 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: against the federal government really makes no sense to me. 351 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: It seems to be the message should be, you know, 352 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: that we should not interfere with law enforcement and the 353 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: job that they're doing. Seems like a simple enough message. 354 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: But you know, it has certainly helped for us to 355 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: just report the news and get the facts. 356 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: Out there over on Alpha News. 357 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: So in a way, it's perhaps it's a job security 358 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: for what we're trying to do each and every day. 359 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Well, it is a job security for me too, because 360 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: we're alway going to tell the truth. It's Liz Collin 361 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: go to Alphanus dot org and go follow her at 362 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: Liz Collin over on X. I want to finish with 363 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: this when it comes to the media, and I wonder 364 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: if you think this is a fair comparison. I remember 365 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: BLM Black Lives Matter, that very far left Marxist LGBTQ 366 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: organization that doesn't care about black lives. They were rioting 367 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and one guy was on the local news 368 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock that night and he said, I can't 369 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: believe that they shot holes in my windows, and they 370 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: stole this out of my yard and they ruined this 371 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: that or the other that was in the yard. I've 372 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: got my BLM flag up. Didn't they see I'm a supporter, 373 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm an ally Why did they do this to me? 374 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: It's almost that's what we're seeing from the media in Minnesota. 375 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: It's like they want to say, don't worry, I'm on 376 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: your side, but they can't say that on camera on CBS. 377 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: It's like they're blown away. Why are you coming after us? 378 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: We're the good guys. Are they starting to realize that, 379 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: you think, Liz, is there a chance they'll realize that 380 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: you can put any flag out that you want. They're 381 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: still going to do bad people will still do bad things, 382 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: or you think the media in that town is never 383 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: gonna wake up. 384 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: You know, I thought by now they would. 385 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what it would take for them to 386 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: do so, but I will say that many of our 387 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: best tips come from mainstream media report. 388 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: Really, what does that tell you? 389 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: They sort of know, you know, what they can and 390 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: can't report. So I think that's always a pretty telling 391 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: telling detail there, Joe. I think many of them are 392 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: upset with what takes place on a day to day basis. 393 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: There is still some good reporting that that happens here 394 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: and there, but really on a wide scale, it's pretty rough. 395 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: And many of these these folks actually believe this. You know, 396 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 2: they're they're really not journalists, they're activists at this point. 397 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: Not agree more, Liz Colin, all right, Liz, let's talk 398 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: about Minnesota fraud. For the past several days, since Renee 399 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: Good was shot and killed because she ran her car 400 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: into a police into an ice agent, we haven't talked 401 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: about Minnesota fraud much at all. You see Jacob Frye 402 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: and Brian O'Hara and Tim Walls finding any camera they 403 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: can to talk about the Gestapo ice and about Hitler. 404 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: Is Trump and so on, and this is a war 405 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: between Minnesota and Washington. I don't think they had anything 406 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: to do with the death of Renee Good. I'm not 407 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: suggesting that, but this is like what rom Emmanuel said, 408 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: never let a serious crisis go to waste. They have 409 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: been able to brush under the rug, at least openly. 410 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you're gonna tell me that it's different, maybe underneath things, 411 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: but they've brushed under the rug all of this fraud. 412 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: And there's massive I heard a number one hundred and 413 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: twenty billion dollars possible just in Minnesota in fraud. I 414 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: don't know how real that is, but they have been 415 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: able to get that off the front pages. Is there 416 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: still investigating going on when it comes to the fraud 417 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: in Minnesota? Where are we on that? 418 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think they're just in the early stages 419 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: of the fraud investigations, to be quite honest, Joe, we 420 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 2: had the Treasuries Secretary in town. 421 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: He was here on Friday. 422 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: I was part of a round table as he was 423 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: talking about what they were doing to crack down on 424 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: wire frauds specifically, he was highlighting and some other maneuvers 425 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: they've made within the Treasury. But What was interesting is 426 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: David was a part of this panel. We now know 427 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: him as just David, but he's a part of that. 428 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: Nick Shirley the viral video, and he talked about how 429 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: there is supposed to be today, in fact, Monday, another 430 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 2: video that he described as ten times worse than the 431 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: one we already saw surrounding Somali fraud in Minnesota. So no, 432 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: many of us anxiously are waiting to see that. We 433 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: put out recently some developments, and it does seem that 434 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: there are some things happening. But the Minneapolis school district, 435 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: their finance director was recently placed on leave, and we've 436 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: been doing some investigating into the transportation contracts within that 437 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: school district, and all of a sudden, this guy is 438 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: placed on leave and he's up for a job in Milwaukee, 439 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: and we make some phone calls about these developments, and 440 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's no. 441 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: Longer in the running for that job. 442 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: So I encourage people to check out our reporting over 443 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 2: a over at Elphin News. But this is a spider web, 444 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: it does seem, but a lot more of this is 445 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: bubbling to the surface. And again I don't think the 446 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: fens here are messing around. They have an awful lot 447 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: of tentacles in place in the state. 448 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: It's not Liz Colin. Liz, as you know, I'm a 449 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: former television news anchor. I did the job pretty well, 450 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: not as good as you. But I want a bunch 451 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: of omarriganin journalist. IM like, get how journalism works. I'll 452 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: tell you this. If I were covering this story, and 453 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: I wonder if you agree with this, and I definitely 454 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: want you to expand upon this. If I were covering 455 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: this story and Wall said, man, we got to get 456 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: to the bottom of this fraud. Somali community, any community. 457 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. This isn't any good. 458 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the bottom of it. If Fry said, man, fraud, 459 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a Somali community, whoever hell 460 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: it is. They're stealing money from Minnesota's They're stealing American 461 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: tax payer money. We're going to get to the bottom 462 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: of it. If they did that, I as a reporter 463 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: would not have my spidy senses going off. But what 464 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: makes them go off for me, and I'm for you 465 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: as well, is when Wall says this is a problem 466 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: with white men. When Wall says, this community is Minnesota. 467 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: When Fry starts eating food that he clearly doesn't like 468 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: and doing Somali dances and doing videos in Somali in 469 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: the language, when you've got Brian O'Hara talking about our 470 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: neighbors and call the police if you see somebody picking 471 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: somebody up, Liz, My spotty sensors are going off that 472 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: these people, if they're not all connected to what's going 473 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: on fraudulently, then they're just really really stupid. So I 474 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: don't think they're really dumb guys. So all of that said, 475 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: because I know that you're a straight line reporter, maybe 476 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: you won't give me an opinion. Maybe you'll give me 477 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. But is there any information connecting Tim 478 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Walls and Jacob Fry and Brian O'Hara and Peggy flanagan 479 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: to the Somali fraud? 480 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, I guess what you're saying about the messaging 481 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: I think has been very telling. They've either remain silent 482 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: on the fraud issue or twisted this all up into 483 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: race or some sort of deflection that it that. 484 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: Is taking place. That is quite telling. 485 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: Tim Walls has been a governor for seven years. There 486 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: is no way that he wasn't aware of this. In fact, 487 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: we've heard from so many whistleblowers at this point that 488 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: said they in fact asked for meetings with Governor Tim 489 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: Walls to talk about what was happening within DHS, and 490 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: those meetings were declined. Not only that, but they wouldn't 491 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: even reply to emails and different things that were brought 492 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: to light and to the surface. So and we we 493 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: have people within Mayor Jacob Fries inner circle that were 494 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: clearly connected to the to this as well. So there's 495 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: just no possible way that this wasn't known at that level. 496 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: I have no doubt. 497 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: However, you were a great television anchor. He probably didn't 498 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: have to spend as much time as I do on 499 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: my hair. 500 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: By the way, Joe, but nowhere near a quick to 501 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: go yeah it is that, Liz Colin. Go to Alphanus 502 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: dot org Alphanues dot org. As we talk about it, 503 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: more fraud is going to be coming out, more information 504 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: will be coming out. Is Tim Walls facing the possibility 505 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: of impeachment of my friend Dustin Grage posted I'm sure 506 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: you know Dustin as well, post it over on x 507 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: that there is rumbling from inside insiders in the legislature. 508 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: I don't love using insiders, but I get it. Are 509 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: saying that Republicans are getting ready to file impeachment papers 510 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: on walls. Is that happening. 511 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 3: It is happening. 512 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: Articles of impeachment are in the process of being filed. 513 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: I will say that I've been in touch with legislators 514 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: as well. They've talked about you know, this really is 515 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: a long shot. They'll need some Democratic support for this, 516 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: but they still want to go ahead. This isn't something 517 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: that's going to you know, be happening overnight, but they 518 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: believe they can force this to a vote, and they say, 519 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: you know that they want to go ahead and send 520 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: the message that they condone this, calling him the most 521 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: corrupt governor in Minnesota history, and you know, they don't 522 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: want to remain silent. So we do see those maneuvers 523 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: happening within at the state capitol in Saint Paul Joe. 524 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: It's been a week or so since he announced, maybe 525 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: it's been a week actually since he announced he wasn't 526 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: running for reelection. Do we now know the real story 527 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: why he did that? Because again there's speculation about Amy 528 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: Klobashar wants to be the governor, and if she becomes 529 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: the governor, then opens her seat, and then she can 530 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: give Walls the seat. If Walls is this dirty or 531 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: at least gives the appearance that he's this dirty because 532 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: of all this fraud, I don't think Clobishar would want 533 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: to give him the job, because that would make her 534 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: look like an idiot. Do we know the real reason 535 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: why he resigned? Is there some sort of smoking gun 536 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: that he's fearful it's going to be coming out soon. 537 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: Well, we're hearing from the federal government that there is there. 538 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: Referred him to the DOJ. They're trying to get him 539 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: in February to answer questions from oversight. We'll see if 540 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: that takes place now that he has said that he 541 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: is not running for reelection. What's also interesting, Joe, he 542 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: was suspiciously quiet this weekend. He hasn't held a press 543 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: conference since Friday, which is unlike him. He was on 544 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: X basically pleading with the public to stay this weekend. 545 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: Those were his messages. We also did see him this 546 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: morning go to the memorial site of Renee Good. He 547 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: was there alongside is his wife. But beyond that, we 548 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 2: have yet to hear from him. We do know, you know, 549 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: there has been many calls for him to resign his 550 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: words last week, or that he would resign over his 551 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: dead body, is what he said. It's also a thing 552 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: that Klobashar has not made an announcement yet. One would 553 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: think that that would need to happen pretty quickly. So 554 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: we're kind of tracking all of this all at the 555 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: same time to see how it shakes out. 556 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: Here is the election this year. 557 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: It is twenty sixth in November. 558 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: Yep, okay, so I live in Texas As. You know, 559 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: they had a file by December eighth of last year 560 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: if they were running for anything. Is there is there 561 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: a due date for the for her to announce that 562 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: she's running. 563 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: Well, that that's what's interesting. I think she's kind of 564 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: on borrow time at at this point. They were even 565 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: expecting it to happen last week. Of course, then this 566 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: shooting to place, so that may have been you know, 567 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: may have turned things sideways as far as that all went. 568 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: So I would suspect that it happens soon. But you 569 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: also do see pretty telling. It seems that there is 570 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: some distance now being created from Senator Amy Clobshar and 571 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 2: Governor Tim walls, and he, as I said, was very 572 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: quiet this weekend, not on any national shows. 573 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: Didn't have anything to say. 574 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: Liz, I want to finish with this such incredible knowledge. 575 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: I could literally talked to you for two or three hours. 576 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: Let me finish on this as we're watching it all unfold, 577 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: and as the good people in Minneapolis and well beyond 578 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: in Minnesota are not out in the streets acting like 579 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: useful idiots, the ones who understand when you saw that 580 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: video that you released, that yes he was hit, Yes 581 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: he was defending himself. When you see that Ice is 582 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: there to get the bad people out of the community 583 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: and leave the community better. Is there a chance Republicans 584 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: can start making some traction, making some waves in that state. 585 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: Can you have a doctor Jensen or somebody else win 586 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: the governor's job, even if it is an Amy Klobshar 587 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: who's very popular, get it, but she still hasn't really 588 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: done much for Minnesota. Is there a chance that you 589 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: can win one of those one of those Senate seats 590 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: back to the Republican side. Any of that looked promising 591 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: at least, well, Joe, there's. 592 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: Always a chance, as the saying goes right, both have 593 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: a very crowded, crowded field for governor on the Republican side, 594 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: I think I've lost track if it's twelve thirteen folks 595 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: who have now filed for that. But you know, I 596 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: will say, if there's one criticism people have been saying, 597 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: you know, why could the government, why could the Feds 598 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: wait until September to spring all of this on Minnesota 599 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 2: because they did think that Walls was, you know, that 600 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: the candidate to beat this time around and was very 601 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: vulnerable for many reasons. So, you know, Senator Globashar is 602 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: kind of a political institution, I guess if you will 603 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: in Minnesota. But you're right, it's tough to point to 604 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: any anything that she has really done. I will say that, 605 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: you know, Republicans remain very hopeful, and I think you're 606 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: seeing that they are more aggressive now in their their messaging. 607 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: It seems as the the Wins are you know, shifting 608 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: a bit here. 609 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: I meant that to be the last question, but you 610 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: reminded me of something, not anything that you said, but 611 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: I was hoping to ask you this before I let 612 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: you go. Is Keith Ellison is the the attorney general? 613 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: Is he the person that doles out the money to 614 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: the NGOs in Minnesota. I heard that. I don't know 615 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: if I heard that from you or somebody else. Does 616 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: he have control of the money. If so, might they 617 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: be looking at him too. 618 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: You know, I think they're looking at him, perhaps for 619 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: other reasons as the top law enforcement officer in Minnesota. 620 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: He though, Joe has just told us again and again 621 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: how much he's been doing to fight fraud, which is interesting. 622 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: We've yet to really see much on that side. Instead, 623 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: he seems to be focused more on business, small businesses 624 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: in Minnesota, fleet farm, I mean, you name it that, 625 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: that's what he's doing. The manufacturers of you know, vehicles 626 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: and whatnot. But I would say that, you know, if 627 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: we're talking about the pocketbook overall, that would belong to Tim, 628 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 2: Tim Walls. And we heard even from this this David 629 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: on Friday talking about that the Feds need to he said, 630 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: swoop in like Batman and get a hold of what's. 631 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: Going on in DHS. 632 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: That this money needs to stop before it's given to 633 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: these these frausters, and not worry so much about, you know, 634 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: what's going overseas, but stop it before it's paid at all. 635 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: Liz Colin, Senior reporter, a great host over at Alpha News. 636 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Go to Alphanus dot org go follow her everywhere online. 637 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Both Alphanus and Liz Collins separately on X Thanks for 638 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: the incredible work and the incredible knowledge as always. I 639 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: know I've asked you to come on a lot lately, 640 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: but you've got so much going on and I love 641 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: having you on. 642 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: Thank you, appreciate you, Joe, thank. 643 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: You, all right, we'll talk soon. That's it round shaking 644 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: an underfraid with Joe Paggs this time. Another one will 645 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: drop very soon.