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Speaker 1: Life Audio.

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Speaker 2: There's Life gets Hi, but we'll forward by a days.

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Speaker 2: There's Chapter, there's Long I Remember Turn the Pay.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back to the Real Deal podcast with Abby Johnson

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Speaker 1: and Reagan Long, where we deliver the Real Deal to

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Speaker 1: y'all completely unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone.

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Speaker 1: It is now.

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Speaker 3: We are now in March, Abby, I feel like we

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Speaker 3: just recorded more like it's.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: I know, I don't know it's.

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Speaker 1: March, and now here we are a week into March, Like,

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Speaker 1: what the heck?

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it. I can't believe. I'm shocked. Everyone

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Speaker 3: were like half way through March, like my kids are

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Speaker 3: on spring break next week.

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Speaker 1: Yes, my kids start this afternoon. Yeah right. I'm like, yeah, what.

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Speaker 3: How did this happen so fast?

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Speaker 1: I feel like everyone was like, Okay, twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: is my year. Twenty twenty five was terrible, twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: And then I'm like, twenty twenty seven is going to

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Speaker 3: be my hair.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now everyone's listed like the seventeen things that have already happened,

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Speaker 3: and they're like, yeah, maybe twenty twenty seven, twenty seven,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's gonna be our year.

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Speaker 1: You know, And I debated Abby, and I like, it

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Speaker 1: is very rare before we record or before Abby and

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Speaker 1: I've ever gone live. It's we like, don't prepare. We

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Speaker 1: are such good wingers. We know how to feed off

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Speaker 1: the other. And if we didn't talk about what we

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Speaker 1: were going to talk about, and I debated it in

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Speaker 1: my head for like thirty seconds, I'm like, do we

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Speaker 1: talk about just exactly what's happening in the world or

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Speaker 1: do we keep it light? Maybe we do both?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I do have a couple of headlines that

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Speaker 3: we could talk about. Actually, it's like, I mean the

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Speaker 3: headlines obviously, Abby, And you know, you know, I am

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Speaker 3: in fund interesting headline today and there were a lot

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Speaker 3: of really mixed reviews on it.

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Speaker 1: It'd be then I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready for another head And I feel like maybe

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Speaker 3: our audience will have maybe they'll have mixed reviews too.

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Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't be surprised, because Abby, everything that has

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Speaker 1: come out, everything that's happening, I feel like it should

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Speaker 1: just be especially Christian amongst Christian conservatives. I feel it

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Speaker 1: should be like, this is the viewpoint, this is how

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Speaker 1: we all think, and it's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not it's so it's not welby. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 3: So here we go. So there was a post from

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Speaker 3: a mom the husband and wife were getting divorced.

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Speaker 3: This woman looked like, I mean, she couldn't have been

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Speaker 3: more than twenty five. I mean, she looked very young.

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Speaker 3: And it was a picture of them. There were two pictures.

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Speaker 3: One picture of them at a big table like a

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Speaker 3: their divorce papers okay, and she's like smiling, like divorce

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Speaker 3: is final whatever. And she's smiling, and he's just like

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Speaker 3: now and I left with what I came into the

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Speaker 3: marriage with. He's going to be the single mama, and

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to visit on weekend. And I was like, okay.

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Speaker 3: So she gave up custody of her children, intentionally gave

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Speaker 3: them on scheduled visits on the weekends. Now, a lot

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Speaker 3: of the people in the comments were like, what's the problem.

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Speaker 3: This is what men have been doing for years, Like yeah.

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Speaker 1: All the feminists, all the feminists.

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Speaker 3: Or like this is what men have been doing for years,

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Speaker 1: Right, right, And I didn't see that headline, so I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing it for the first time, and it immediately it's

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Speaker 1: And Abby and I are going to do a podcast

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Speaker 1: on it Price somewhat in the near future talking talking

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Speaker 1: about my divorce. And I've had many personal conversations with people, acquaintances, strangers,

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Speaker 1: divorced to you know, divorce is disordered. God hates divorce,

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Speaker 1: especially when you have no With Abbey's divorce, you had

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Speaker 1: no you had no children within it. I have five,

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Speaker 1: and that it makes it considerably. It just elevates it

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Speaker 1: my children should have. There are also things that happen

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Speaker 1: not biblical. And although I'm very much a massive advocate

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Speaker 1: I remember speaking with a priest and it's not just me.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you're a mother, you're also whatever reason

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Speaker 1: you're staying for or working through it right or pushing through,

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Speaker 1: you are also now responsible for these children, God's children.

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Speaker 1: They're your children on loan, but they're God's children. And

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Speaker 1: it was kind of my It was like the final

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Speaker 1: blessing that I needed, even though I was told so

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Speaker 1: many time times before, but it really, like I remembered,

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Speaker 1: the final, final, final blessing. It was kind of like

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Speaker 1: of Reagan. You will have to give an account for

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Speaker 1: how you, you know, protected the children and what you

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Speaker 1: And it was worded a little bit differently, and there's

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Speaker 1: off track there, Abby, because divorce just sucks. It sucks

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Speaker 1: no matter how you want to twist it. It sucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But look how our culture has like glorified it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh, it's liberating.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is like having like divorce parties and all this

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Speaker 3: He's amazing. But he said, if I were to be

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Speaker 3: I think no fault divorce has become a scourge on

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Speaker 3: this nation. If you're going to get divorced. There should

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Speaker 3: don't know, like medieval times or sometime. If you were

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Speaker 3: you worked it out. When you warned this crab out, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're notiot here until you work this out, because you

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Speaker 3: cannot get a divorce, right.

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Speaker 3: Now it's like people get into marriages like, well, hey,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't work out, I just get a divorce, right.

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Speaker 3: But because we've taken the sanctity out of marriage and

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Speaker 1: And there's this it's almost like people glorify this no

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Speaker 1: fault divorce of yeah, it's not even that bad. We're

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Speaker 3: We just we still love each other. We just don't

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, if you love each other, then being

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Speaker 1: And for me, one of the most crushing things Abby

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Speaker 1: was when it really hit hit me. I know, this

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Speaker 1: like God can never fail me, and God can never

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Speaker 1: And again, Abby, I think because as a society we

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Speaker 1: basic struggles, like literally things that everyone the no fault

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Speaker 1: divorces today, that was just wasn't an option. And again,

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Speaker 1: when you vowed before God to say, hey, till death

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Speaker 3: Abby.

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Speaker 1: It has become toxic. It's just becomes so it's like

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Speaker 1: the feminist movement, it's become so liberating. Again, we've just changed.

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Speaker 1: For me, it's such a failure. It's such a heartache.

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Speaker 1: It's such a again I grieve for my children.

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Speaker 3: Well that's how they were framing it on this post.

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Speaker 3: They were like, oh, good for you, girl. That's like,

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Speaker 3: that's what empowerment looks like, That's what true empowerment looks like.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't think so, Like I don't

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Speaker 3: think a mother abandoning the children that grew in her womb,

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Speaker 3: like women are called to mother, so you know, instant

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Speaker 3: I don't think that like just being like deuces to

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Speaker 1: Know, Abby. A great example of this is in this

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Speaker 1: several weeks ago, this was trending everywhere. This gorgeous woman

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Speaker 1: It's like a spa.

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Speaker 1: It is so paradoxical. Because you're right as Abby and

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Speaker 1: Right with their new babies when I went back to teaching,

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't have to look that your vehicles getting repossessed,

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's why I think we need more Like

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Speaker 3: We're like babies. They're always on the meetings always. We

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Speaker 3: Well it was about a bunch of pro lifeers or

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Speaker 3: and she quoted me a few times in it, and

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Speaker 3: she said, you know, Abbie Johnson CEO, and then there

433
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Speaker 3: were none pro ministries. She said, encourages her employees to

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Speaker 3: take naps in the middle of the day. Okay, that's

435
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Speaker 3: not exactly how I said it. I was like, but

436
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Speaker 3: I want that on my tombstone. Take a nap. Everybody

437
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Speaker 3: take a nap.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, can you imagine if you knew, you know,

439
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Speaker 1: what I was up all night with a baby, Like

440
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Speaker 1: what thirty minutes would do for me right now? Like

441
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Speaker 1: do you just understand if people felt the need to

442
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Speaker 1: be human, to be human and knowing where your priorities are,

443
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Speaker 1: your work production would be so much more value. The

444
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Speaker 1: output you get from your workers, the loyalty you get.

445
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Speaker 1: Like you said, you have a very low turnover rate.

446
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Speaker 3: Like I can't believe the production that my staff does.

447
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Speaker 3: They're all moms, most of them have small children, but

448
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Speaker 3: when they work, they're very focused.

449
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Speaker 1: Right because it's like, all right, I'm locking in here,

450
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Speaker 1: we go, babies down, this I got to do, you.

451
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Speaker 3: Know, but I got like two hours, I got a

452
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Speaker 3: two hour nap time, Like I'm gonna lock in, I'm

453
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Speaker 3: gonna focus. And that's what they do in Spain. When

454
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Speaker 3: I went to Spain, they were like, I was like,

455
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Speaker 3: all right, what times I get here? And They're like,

456
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Speaker 3: we usually roll in about nine, nine thirty and I'm like, wait, okay,

457
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Speaker 3: so we get there and then like at noon or

458
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Speaker 3: eleven thirty or something, they're like, all right, we're gonna

459
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Speaker 3: go to lunch. They take a two hour lunch. I

460
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Speaker 3: mean Neyver really really spread out lunch. They come back

461
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Speaker 3: and then they're like, no, We're going to take a

462
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Speaker 3: thirty minute nap. And I'm like, do you guys even work?

463
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Speaker 2: You know?

464
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Speaker 3: And then after the nap and they're literally spread out

465
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Speaker 3: on couches. There's couches in the office. They're all like

466
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Speaker 3: laying their head back, like sleeping. And then after the

467
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Speaker 3: nap they get up and they work for like three

468
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Speaker 3: solid hours and then they go home and they have

469
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Speaker 3: the best productivity of like any other country because they

470
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Speaker 3: allow their employees like freedom to take a break from

471
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Speaker 3: their minds, like to really focus and have high productivity.

472
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Speaker 3: And we're just not we're not doing that in the

473
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Speaker 3: United States.

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Speaker 1: And we feel better with doing the eight hours, which again,

475
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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what, like it's the same thing

476
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Speaker 1: with school abby with kids at school versus like homeschoolers

477
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Speaker 1: and what and what you get done. And so we

478
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Speaker 1: certainly don't have everything right here. I mean, we don't

479
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Speaker 1: have many things right here in America, and so it's like,

480
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Speaker 1: you know, it's up to us to within our own marriages,

481
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Speaker 1: within our own families, within our own churches and communities,

482
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Speaker 1: within our own workplaces, to literally try to lead the

483
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Speaker 1: way there well.

484
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Speaker 3: And I think we have to set boundaries, Like I

485
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Speaker 3: think we have to set the expectation. Like with school.

486
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Speaker 3: You know, my kids go to a private school, and

487
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Speaker 3: I'm just very honest with their with their teachers. I'm like,

488
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Speaker 3: you have my kids eight hours a day. I'm not

489
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Speaker 3: going to focus on school when they come home, so

490
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Speaker 3: I'm not doing homework, but you get done. They're not

491
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Speaker 3: doing homework, So if they don't get it done during

492
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Speaker 3: the day, then it's not going to get done.

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Speaker 1: Your husband's a teacher, is a former teacher myself. I

494
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Speaker 1: so respect that, and I there are far too many

495
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Speaker 1: teachers that it all grade levels, who simply give it

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Speaker 1: just for busy work. They give it to give it,

497
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Speaker 1: and I think it's disgusting.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, and all these like extracurricular classes they have,

499
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Speaker 3: like my kids are in Spanish the first few years

500
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Speaker 3: and then they switch to Latin, which I just wish

501
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Speaker 3: they did Latin all the way through. I'm like, I

502
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Speaker 3: don't care about Spanish. I don't care if my kids

503
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Speaker 3: learn Spanish when they're in first grade. They're not going

504
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Speaker 3: to keep it up. I don't know how to speak Spanish.

505
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Speaker 3: They're like, it's just dumb. It's like just a dumb

506
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Speaker 3: extracurricular class. And so I got to tell my kids.

507
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't care how you doing Spanish. I

508
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Speaker 3: don't care. And so, you know, like they come home

509
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: and they have like a d in Spanish, I'm like, whatever,

510
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: that's not where I want you spending your time. I

511
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: want you spending your time on math and science and

512
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: things that actually matter, right, not like some Spanish class

513
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: that's not going to affect your life for the rest

514
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: of your life. I don't like all the busy work,

515
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: and so I just don't do it. And I tell

516
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Speaker 3: their teachers, like if they come home and they have something,

517
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, I have homework and have to turn

518
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Speaker 3: in tomorrow. I'm like, well, it's not getting done. We're

519
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: not doing it. They have my kids too long for

520
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: them to bring things home for extra work, and so

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Speaker 3: I just set that boundary with the school, and I

522
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Speaker 3: set that boundary with their teachers early, like right at

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the school, right at the beginning of

524
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Speaker 3: the school year. So I mean all parents can do that,

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Speaker 3: right totally, I mean absolutely, and as a former teacher myself,

526
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Speaker 3: I would encourage that because kids don't need it, the

527
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Speaker 3: parents don't need it.

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Speaker 1: They need to focus on downtime, family time, with sports,

529
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Speaker 1: they're in extracurricular activities, just going outside, riding their bike

530
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Speaker 1: and getting dirty, being a family, just you know what

531
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Speaker 1: I mean. And so I love that. You have to

532
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Speaker 1: set the presidents with your family, you have to send

533
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Speaker 1: boundaries with your family. I can't tell you how many

534
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Speaker 1: times abby that there's for a number of reasons that

535
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Speaker 1: my kids are the stickout of the grade level or

536
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Speaker 1: the school, whether it's they're one of the few. You know,

537
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: everyone thinks you can't send your children to school without

538
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Speaker 1: being vaccinated. My kids are in public school. I went

539
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Speaker 1: through it just with a kindergartener. I went through it,

540
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Speaker 1: and all my children are athletes, and I found out,

541
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Speaker 1: I believe, inside the entire middle school, so three different

542
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Speaker 1: grade levels, a massive middle school, was just me and

543
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Speaker 1: one other child whose parents like signed off on as

544
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Speaker 1: an athlete not getting these required vaccinations. Guys, remember these

545
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Speaker 1: children are yours. I will tell you what. Most of

546
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Speaker 1: the time, it does not take a lot of extra

547
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Speaker 1: work to really just say, oh, you know what, this

548
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Speaker 1: isn't right for my family, and I'm this isn't for

549
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Speaker 1: my children. It's sometimes it really doesn't take a lot

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Speaker 1: of work.

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Speaker 3: They make it seem like it takes a lot of

552
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Speaker 3: work to pressure you into getting it, but it actually

553
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Speaker 3: doesn't take a lot of work. Our school did that too,

554
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Speaker 3: because the Catholic bishops in Texas won't allow religious exemptions,

555
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Speaker 3: so you have to get a medical exemption.

556
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Speaker 1: Nine are still religious exemptions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so which is no problem. Like you can easily

558
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Speaker 3: find a doctor in Texas that will sign a medical exemption.

559
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Speaker 3: You just have to know how to do it. You

560
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: have to know where to go. And so in kindergarten,

561
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Speaker 3: you know, we all get this letter during Christmas break,

562
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Speaker 3: all of us who had kids that were non compliant

563
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Speaker 3: with the vaccination schedule, like if you don't have your

564
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Speaker 3: kid vaccinated by January fifth, they cannot return to school.

565
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Speaker 3: And so I put a message out on our group,

566
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Speaker 3: me in the kindergarten group me, and I was like listen,

567
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: I was like, if any of you got that and

568
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: you don't want to vaccinate your kid, do not feel

569
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: pressured to do it, message me privately, and I will

570
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: help you. And I got so many messages for moms.

571
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Speaker 3: They're like, how do I do it? I don't want

572
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: and they're like, I made an appointment to get my

573
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Speaker 3: kid vaccinated because I didn't know what to do. I'm like,

574
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Speaker 3: cancel the appointment. I will help you. You do not

575
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Speaker 3: need to do that totally.

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Speaker 1: And I just and I encourage everyone because they'll tell

577
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Speaker 1: you what Abby. It is more and more of the

578
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Speaker 1: parents that are doing it because they just think there's

579
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Speaker 1: no other choice. It's like, well, I have to, well

580
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Speaker 1: I don't want to fight. Well, my kid has to

581
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Speaker 1: go to school. Well, my kid really wants to play

582
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Speaker 1: this sport, so I guess.

583
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Speaker 3: We have to.

584
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: No, you don't know.

585
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: You don't.

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Speaker 1: And I can't tell you how many personal friends of

587
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: mine who are like, yeah, we had to get it.

588
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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you didn't.

589
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: You didn't.

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00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: I didn't our kids play together. You didn't. And so

591
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Speaker 1: I just you don't always have to go with the

592
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: status quo. You don't always have to go with what

593
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Speaker 1: the average person is doing or told to be doing.

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Speaker 3: And let me tell you something. There was a measles

595
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Speaker 3: outbreak at Grace's college.

596
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Speaker 1: I saw that.

597
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Speaker 3: I mean they act like it's some kind of like

598
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Speaker 3: the most insane outbreak of I mean like they act

599
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 3: like it's like cuberculosis. Okay, and you like going across

600
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: to the school. Not the school, really, it's the health department.

601
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: It's the state health apartment that comes in and like

602
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: kind of takes over whatever all of you know. And

603
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Speaker 3: i mean one of the reasons that it was bad

604
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: because so many of the kids are unvaccinated, right, so

605
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: it just kind of spreads through. And Grace was fine,

606
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: she didn't get it. One of her best friends got

607
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 3: it or whatever. And I'll have you know, nobody died.

608
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: It was fine. Okay, it's like getting the flu. It's

609
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: totally fine. Nobody died. Everybody came through it there, it's

610
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: completely contained now. And now all those kids that did

611
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: get it have lifelong immunity. They have a stronger immunity

612
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: against the measles than they would have if they got

613
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: the MMR vaccine, and they don't have any of that

614
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: crap in their body that came along with the vaccine.

615
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Speaker 3: So I'm like, people are so scared of the things

616
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: that are out there, you know. I mean, they're vaccinating

617
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 3: their kids gets chicken pox, and I'm like, we all

618
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: had the chicken pox.

619
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I still have scars where I picked

620
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: mine off. I just remember. It's so itchy like, but

621
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Speaker 1: that's not I feel.

622
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was just I mean, and it just

623
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: kind of became a joke, like, and Grace had to

624
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: go compete. She's on the dance team, so she had

625
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: to compete at a dance competition, and the whole team

626
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: had to get tested before they could go there to

627
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Speaker 3: make sure none of them had the measles. And I'm like,

628
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 3: you could be in Walmart in the same checkout line

629
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Speaker 3: as a person with the measles and not know it.

630
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: You could go to church and sit in the pew

631
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Speaker 3: next to someone who has the measles. But we're so

632
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: scared of everything nowadays, and I just think we just

633
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: can't live in fear like that. We just can't.

634
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: We can't. And it's obviously unless you're living under a rock.

635
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: There's so much that is uncertain about these times. And

636
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 1: it's like, Goddess in control, God has my heart. Every

637
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: day I pray over my children and I ask for

638
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: us all to be hidden inside the Lord's most precious

639
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: wounds hidden from any evil or harm. And that's all

640
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: we can do. That's all we can do. We have

641
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: to go out living our lives and we have to

642
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: try to. Is we are living amongst such evil and deception,

643
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: we still have to try to do what's best within

644
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: our own families.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, be vigilant, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, dear friends, So I'm glad that we were

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Speaker 1: back for another week with you all, And until.

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Speaker 4: Next time, keep raising your little saints.

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Speaker 2: Oh say come,