1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Life Audio Joel and Macy, great job on the film. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: Joel, of course you portray John and Macy you portray 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: Beth in the movie. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 3: Why did you guys. 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Want to be a part of this film? 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: This film is just so special. Not only I love 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: getting to tell true stories, There's something really beautiful and. 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 4: Special about that, but especially when it's such a just 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 4: joyful story regardless of whatever hurt or like scarring or. 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Battles that people are going through. The overcoming is really 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: important to tell. I think in stories nowadays, I think 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: hope is important nowadays, and this is just saturated with 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: those two things. 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: Macey, Yeah, I would say, my goodness when I got 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: this script, I was so excited to tell a story. 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, like what he's saying of overcoming of I 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: just think, especially today, is so important to know that 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: you have a choice no matter what your circumstance is, 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: that hope is always there and you are not a victim. 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: You can be a victor, like you can go from 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: the pit completely to a life of freedom and joy. 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: And a lot of it comes down to choices that 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 3: you make once Sometimes there are massive choices, like you know, John, 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: Whenie's little makes the choice of I want to live 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: and then sometimes it's every day after that when it 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: gets just the mundane and it's the hard stuff and 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: the things no one sees. But no one can make 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: those choices for you. You have to be the one. 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: And I'm excited to give audiences agency for them to 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: leave the theater and know like, oh, I have agency 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: in my story. I can make a choice to live 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: to the fullest extent of that word. 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Eh be are people of faith? How did working on 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,919 Speaker 2: this story impact your own perspective on faith and resilience. 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: Well, resiliency is such a such a tough thing. I 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: immediately think of job, you know, everyone around him telling 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: him like you've sen you know, curse God and move on, 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, that kind of thing. But his resiliency to 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: hold to his faith, it's a position that you never 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: want to be in. And John was in that. 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: You know. 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: He could have taken his circumstances into account and said, uh, 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, why me in the the wrong way? You know, 44 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: but he he flipped that around through life. He found 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: through death's help, through his parents' help, through his friends 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: in college, people who loved him despite his brokenness, and 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: whatever emotional trauma that he was still hiding and covering 48 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: with his drinking and partying, you know that kind of stuff. 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: Like his faith blossomed and flourished by saying yes and 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: you know, having what was there years was an a agency. 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: I was gonna say autonomy. I was like, that's not 52 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: it agency, the agency, But like he said yes to 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: speaking and sharing his story, and you know, faith just 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: plays such a huge part of his role. So as 55 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: a Christian, it is always a special time for me 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: to get to play someone of faith. And this has 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: been a career highlight film for me. 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: In that Masie, yeah, I would say to me, this 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: film is from being a person of faith. To me 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: is a display of the Gospel. I think you know 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: all the people in John's life, you know, especially the character. 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: I always feel words sing character because she's a real person. 63 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: But Beth, you know, just to be fully known or 64 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: to be fully loved, you have to be fully known. 65 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: And in order to be fully known, there takes like 66 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: a level of intense vulnerability to show someone the darkest 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: parts of you, the parts with the most shame, and 68 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: the things that you don't want people to see, the 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: things that we quote unquote like wear a turtleneck to hide, 70 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: kind of like John did. And and to me, it's 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: a picture of the Gospel because God looked at us 72 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: in our most brokenness and as non of terr most 73 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: brokenness and are and are the worst of the worst 74 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: and just the worst parts of us, no matter what 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: you've done, no matter who you are, and says like 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: I choose you. I love you so much that I 77 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: set my son to die for you, and like I 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: choose you in your worst And I just think this 79 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: film is a beautiful display of what the gospel is 80 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: in just a subtle way. But it's a picture of 81 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: it to me. 82 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the two of your preaching right there, a great 83 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: job with those answers. Did you guys get the chance 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: to meet the real life John and Beth And if so, 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: how did that impact your performances and your roles? 86 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean John and I met on Zoom well 87 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: before filming. He gave me his phone number. He said, 88 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: if you ever want to talk, if you ever have 89 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: any questions, feel free to reach out day or night. 90 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: I did quite often. He was on set, probably every 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: ninety plus percent, but sure most days, and he was 92 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: always available. We were always accessible. You know, he was 93 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: just helping out on set, you know, like the scene 94 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: where we're shooting pool at the bar. I was like, John, 95 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: how do you hold a pool cue? And He's like, 96 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: this is how I do it. I was like, all right, 97 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: that's what I'm going to do it, you know that 98 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. He showed me how he bowls. 99 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: He was just accessible and since then he's become a 100 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: friend for sure. 101 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: Macy, do you have any thoughts there? 102 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the same. I mean the second you 103 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: meet John and the second we met John, I immediately 104 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: felt like family in a way. I felt like I belonged. 105 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: I felt like I felt so inspired. And also he 106 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: just gave me so much confidence to do this role. 107 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: And Beth, oh my goodness. I zoomed with her immediately, 108 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: and she, I mean we were on zoom for hours, 109 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: and she was just willing to tell me any stories, 110 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: any thoughts, Like she was willing to be vulnerable. And 111 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: they both it's hard to explain, but they both just 112 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: like make you feel like you're a part of You're 113 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: already ingrained into his story and it's hard to but 114 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: I told him, I was like, you're never going to 115 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 3: get rid of me. Like you say that you know 116 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: I love you and there's nothing you can do about it. 117 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: Like he said that to us all the time, And 118 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: will you say up back to him, We're We're not 119 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: going anywhere. 120 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: There are a thousand lessons from the story from this film. 121 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: What are the lessons that ATV want audiences to take 122 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: away from this film? 123 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I something I really want audiences to take away. 124 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: I think all of us can relate to. Well, there's 125 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: a verse in scripture that says the enemy has come 126 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: to kill, steal, and destroy, but I have come to 127 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 3: give you life and life abundantly. And I think every 128 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: single one of us can say that things have been 129 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: stolen in our lives, whether that's dreams, whether it's opportunities, 130 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: whether it's relationships or just really horrific things that have happened. 131 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: Things have been killed in our lives. Again, that can 132 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: be a slew of things, and things have been destroyed. 133 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: But I hope people leave knowing whatever has been stolen, 134 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: God can replenish, and whatever's been He can resurrect. Whatever 135 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: has been destroyed, he can rebuild. And I think you 136 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: know a big part of that is training to him 137 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: of he offers the life abundantly, and he has an 138 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: abundant life for us. I think there's a big part 139 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: that we need. We have to choose that, because we 140 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: can stay in the rubble of our destruction and the 141 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: things that have happened to us, or we can choose that, No, 142 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 3: there is more. 143 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: And I do have hope, Joel in the final second 144 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: here or do you have any thoughts? 145 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: Hate to follow that up? 146 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: Sounds perfect. 147 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: I think that one thing that I would love to 148 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: see people take away that I take away is just 149 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: a life of hope in that just hope and joy abundant. 150 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: It is possible, but you have to choose it. And 151 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: kind of what you were saying earlier, like you can 152 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: decide to focus on the negative, you can decide to 153 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: focus on what's been stolen, but you can also choose 154 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: to take from the past circumstances that have happened and 155 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: learn from them and grow through them like John did. 156 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: And what came out of that was beautiful. His speaking engagements, 157 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: his encouragements to audiences of like twenty eight thousand people 158 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, live inspired and share your story to help 159 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: people through whatever their fire was. 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