1 00:00:12,070 --> 00:00:14,970 Speaker 1: This is Donna Jones, and you are listening to That's 2 00:00:15,190 --> 00:00:17,890 Speaker 1: Just What I Needed. Hey, friend, if you've ever been 3 00:00:17,930 --> 00:00:20,790 Speaker 1: in a conversation where you've walked away thinking, wow, that 4 00:00:20,810 --> 00:00:23,530 Speaker 1: was just what I needed, you know how life-giving that 5 00:00:23,550 --> 00:00:26,070 Speaker 1: can be. Well, that's what this podcast is all about. 6 00:00:26,410 --> 00:00:29,290 Speaker 1: We're women who want to know, love, and follow God 7 00:00:29,470 --> 00:00:32,169 Speaker 1: in our real lives, but sometimes wonder just how to 8 00:00:32,220 --> 00:00:34,980 Speaker 1: do it. So each week, we'll talk about what following 9 00:00:35,020 --> 00:00:37,420 Speaker 1: God looks like in the midst of daily demands and 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,610 Speaker 1: crazy cultural chaos. Because this isn't just what we need. 11 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:46,210 Speaker 1: It's actually exactly what we need. Well, hey, hey, and 12 00:00:46,229 --> 00:00:49,030 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast, my friend. I am so glad 13 00:00:49,090 --> 00:00:52,710 Speaker 1: you are here. Hey, I would love to connect with 14 00:00:52,729 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: you more personally. So if you are on social media, 15 00:00:56,220 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: I would love to connect with you on Donna A. Jones. 16 00:00:58,940 --> 00:01:01,500 Speaker 1: That's where I am on Instagram or Donna Jones Speaker 17 00:01:01,580 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: and Author on Facebook. And hey, I have a website, donnajones.org. 18 00:01:06,060 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: Lots of free resources over there. You can purchase my 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,540 Speaker 1: books over there. find out about my speaking schedule. I 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,350 Speaker 1: would just love to meet you face-to-face. I'd love to 21 00:01:15,730 --> 00:01:18,310 Speaker 1: be invited to your church or for your organization to 22 00:01:18,530 --> 00:01:21,130 Speaker 1: speak for you. And I'd just like to get to 23 00:01:21,150 --> 00:01:23,270 Speaker 1: know you a little bit better. So jump over to 24 00:01:23,330 --> 00:01:25,950 Speaker 1: social media and connect with me there or my website 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: and connect with me there. And don't forget, also subscribe 26 00:01:29,300 --> 00:01:33,260 Speaker 1: to this podcast because I have some amazing guests coming 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: up and you are not going to want to miss 28 00:01:35,860 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: a single one. Well, let me tell you about today's guest. 29 00:01:39,819 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: This is actually one of my very favorite guests, and 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,660 Speaker 1: that's because this guest is near and dear to my heart. Today, 31 00:01:47,780 --> 00:01:53,650 Speaker 1: I'm welcoming my youngest child, Ashton Jones-Weber. So, Ashton, welcome 32 00:01:53,670 --> 00:01:54,410 Speaker 1: to the podcast. 33 00:01:55,210 --> 00:01:59,630 Speaker 2: Hello, hello. Welcome here, everybody. 34 00:01:59,650 --> 00:02:06,660 Speaker 1: So, Our listening friends, you can already tell that Ashton 35 00:02:06,740 --> 00:02:09,059 Speaker 1: is a party in a box. We have so much 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,820 Speaker 1: fun together. But one of the things I love about 37 00:02:11,930 --> 00:02:16,070 Speaker 1: Ashton is that she is simultaneously, and actually Ashton, my 38 00:02:16,230 --> 00:02:18,370 Speaker 1: favorite people, like if you're going to be like one 39 00:02:18,389 --> 00:02:22,390 Speaker 1: of my besties, my favorite people are always really fun 40 00:02:22,910 --> 00:02:26,290 Speaker 1: and really deep simultaneously. Like they can go back and forth. 41 00:02:26,490 --> 00:02:29,010 Speaker 1: And I love that about you because you can. As 42 00:02:29,090 --> 00:02:32,350 Speaker 1: we jump into today's podcast, tell us just a little 43 00:02:32,370 --> 00:02:33,030 Speaker 1: bit about you. 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,260 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I feel like the last time I was 45 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: on here, I was living such a different life. I 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,590 Speaker 2: was a newlywed. I was working. And things have changed 47 00:02:41,610 --> 00:02:44,370 Speaker 2: over the last few years. So I am still married. 48 00:02:44,510 --> 00:02:45,150 Speaker 2: Thank the Lord. 49 00:02:47,590 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: You made it two years, 24 months. 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: We're toddlers. We're baby toddlers. But no, me and my husband, 51 00:02:56,260 --> 00:02:58,340 Speaker 2: we've been together for about two and a half years. 52 00:02:58,910 --> 00:03:02,730 Speaker 2: We welcomed our first child last October. So we have 53 00:03:02,790 --> 00:03:05,570 Speaker 2: a 10 and a half month old, which is just 54 00:03:05,810 --> 00:03:08,540 Speaker 2: the most wonderful thing we've ever done with our lives. 55 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: I am a full-time mom, which I joke that I 56 00:03:12,260 --> 00:03:14,820 Speaker 2: treated my nine to five for a 24 seven, but 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,310 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have it any other way. So that's my life. 58 00:03:18,389 --> 00:03:19,050 Speaker 2: That's pretty much me. 59 00:03:20,810 --> 00:03:24,130 Speaker 1: Well, Ashton, as we were chatting about why I wanted 60 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,620 Speaker 1: to have you on this podcast, well, number one, just 61 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,980 Speaker 1: because I think you're just really cool. But one of 62 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,500 Speaker 1: the things, as I mentioned, that you have a really 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: deep spiritual walk with the Lord. And a lot of 64 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: that was developed when, I mean, it started when you 65 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: were home, when you lived, you know, under our roof, 66 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,340 Speaker 1: you became a believer. But A lot of that happened 67 00:03:43,350 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: when you went to college. And I know that there 68 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:48,540 Speaker 1: are a lot of people listening right now because it 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,060 Speaker 1: is the fall. They have a child going off to 70 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,900 Speaker 1: college or maybe going off to high school or maybe 71 00:03:53,940 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: going off to kindergarten or middle school, or maybe they've 72 00:03:57,100 --> 00:04:00,820 Speaker 1: graduated from college and they are now trying to figure 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,900 Speaker 1: out a job and whole, you know, oh my gosh, 74 00:04:03,940 --> 00:04:06,860 Speaker 1: what's my life after school? The point is everybody listening 75 00:04:06,980 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: probably either has a loved one in transition or or 76 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,620 Speaker 1: they are going through a transition. And so transitions have 77 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,020 Speaker 1: kind of a dual thing where they can be a 78 00:04:17,060 --> 00:04:19,180 Speaker 1: blessing or they can be a curse. They can be 79 00:04:19,220 --> 00:04:21,250 Speaker 1: really hard or they can be really good. So tell 80 00:04:21,310 --> 00:04:23,270 Speaker 1: us just a little bit about when you went to 81 00:04:23,310 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: college and what that transition was like for you. Yeah. 82 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,099 Speaker 2: I mean, it was the biggest change I've ever gone through. 83 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,659 Speaker 2: But to even preface it, before I was really committing 84 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,220 Speaker 2: to going away, and I obviously live in California, went 85 00:04:39,260 --> 00:04:41,780 Speaker 2: to school to the University of Alabama, it was such 86 00:04:41,820 --> 00:04:46,140 Speaker 2: a serious decision for me. So I had seen in 87 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,070 Speaker 2: my own life, my parents, you and dad, Whenever it 88 00:04:50,089 --> 00:04:53,310 Speaker 2: came to really big decisions, you actually would pray. Dad 89 00:04:53,330 --> 00:04:57,420 Speaker 2: would pray and would even fast. And so when I 90 00:04:57,460 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: was deciding about this decision in my own life, it 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,330 Speaker 2: was birthed out of a place of praying and fasting. 92 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:07,830 Speaker 2: And so I thought, well... That's how my dad oriented 93 00:05:07,910 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: his life when it came to big decisions. I feel 94 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:12,820 Speaker 2: like that's something I should do. So I wasn't like 95 00:05:12,860 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: I heard an audible voice during those three days that 96 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,580 Speaker 2: I really was intentional about praying and fasting. But I 97 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:21,210 Speaker 2: really got the sense of you're trying to be obedient. 98 00:05:21,930 --> 00:05:24,650 Speaker 2: And so through that obedience, choose where you want to 99 00:05:24,670 --> 00:05:27,130 Speaker 2: go and I will be with you. And that led 100 00:05:27,150 --> 00:05:29,770 Speaker 2: me to deciding to go to the University of Alabama. 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:35,100 Speaker 2: So even before me choosing the transition, there was the decision. 102 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: And so it was the decision that also led to 103 00:05:38,020 --> 00:05:41,180 Speaker 2: a time of prayer, a time of just dedicating to 104 00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:45,289 Speaker 2: the Lord, really seeking Him, kind of pausing just outside 105 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:48,029 Speaker 2: noise and really trying to hear and see like what 106 00:05:48,089 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: God is. doing, moving, and saying in my own life 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,380 Speaker 2: and even around me. But then as I went to school, 108 00:05:54,400 --> 00:06:00,229 Speaker 2: that was such a catalytic experience because I had the tools, 109 00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:02,570 Speaker 2: but now I actually got to use the tools in 110 00:06:02,610 --> 00:06:05,420 Speaker 2: my toolbox. when you're in a season of comfort or 111 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,780 Speaker 2: in a state of comfort, you have maybe things in 112 00:06:08,820 --> 00:06:12,110 Speaker 2: your arsenal, but you're not necessarily using them at your disposal, 113 00:06:12,140 --> 00:06:14,770 Speaker 2: but just because things are easy. But when you are 114 00:06:14,850 --> 00:06:18,890 Speaker 2: faced with adversity, a challenge, something different, an obstacle, transition, 115 00:06:18,910 --> 00:06:20,690 Speaker 2: it kind of puts you in this place of like, 116 00:06:20,970 --> 00:06:22,510 Speaker 2: how are you going to face this? What are you 117 00:06:22,529 --> 00:06:25,130 Speaker 2: going to do with it? And so I took that 118 00:06:25,210 --> 00:06:28,210 Speaker 2: as another opportunity to go to the Lord, especially in 119 00:06:28,570 --> 00:06:32,570 Speaker 2: my prayer life. So again, it was really catalytic because 120 00:06:32,650 --> 00:06:36,060 Speaker 2: it took me, to a place where I had to 121 00:06:36,100 --> 00:06:37,940 Speaker 2: do things truly on my own. I didn't have a 122 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: church home at the time. I didn't have any friends. 123 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:43,339 Speaker 2: I didn't have any family nearby. And so it was 124 00:06:43,460 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: really just a solo experience. And I think out of 125 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: that birthed a deeper intimacy and relationship and even just 126 00:06:52,220 --> 00:06:55,350 Speaker 2: like closeness with the Lord. I wasn't pretty, but it 127 00:06:55,390 --> 00:06:59,110 Speaker 2: was very real. So I think that led me to 128 00:06:59,150 --> 00:07:04,380 Speaker 2: a place of communicating and communing with Jesus. in a 129 00:07:04,460 --> 00:07:08,220 Speaker 2: way where there wasn't really any holding back. And now 130 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,230 Speaker 2: I kind of did that through journaling, also through like talking, praying, 131 00:07:12,290 --> 00:07:13,930 Speaker 2: things like that. But at the time I was really 132 00:07:13,970 --> 00:07:16,450 Speaker 2: big into journaling. I look back in my prayer journals 133 00:07:16,530 --> 00:07:19,110 Speaker 2: and it's really funny how much of an emotional rollercoaster 134 00:07:19,150 --> 00:07:21,190 Speaker 2: I was. One day I was like, Lord, where are you? 135 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:23,970 Speaker 2: I don't think you're here. I'm all by myself. And 136 00:07:24,010 --> 00:07:26,790 Speaker 2: the next day was like, God, you're the God of miracles. 137 00:07:26,810 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: You answer prayers. What's going on? 138 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,500 Speaker 1: Welcome to life, right? Up and down, up and down. 139 00:07:34,660 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Remind me of the original question. I kind of like 140 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: took us on a, you know, a tangent. 141 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,370 Speaker 1: Well, before we go back to the original question, I'm 142 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:42,290 Speaker 1: going to take you back to something that you said, 143 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:45,550 Speaker 1: which was that you had seen that when we had 144 00:07:45,590 --> 00:07:49,570 Speaker 1: to make big decisions, especially your dad, that he fasted 145 00:07:49,590 --> 00:07:53,010 Speaker 1: and we prayed. And I know what you're referring to 146 00:07:53,190 --> 00:07:55,620 Speaker 1: when your dad fasted over a really big decision and 147 00:07:55,810 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: you were only, what, eight, nine years old? 148 00:07:59,740 --> 00:08:02,430 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. in like fourth grade, but I 149 00:08:02,470 --> 00:08:04,590 Speaker 2: was really aware. That's the thing. It's like, even if 150 00:08:04,630 --> 00:08:06,630 Speaker 2: you're young, you're very aware of what's going on in 151 00:08:06,650 --> 00:08:08,250 Speaker 2: your home. You're very aware of what's going on in 152 00:08:08,270 --> 00:08:10,670 Speaker 2: your family. You are very aware and in tune of 153 00:08:10,690 --> 00:08:13,570 Speaker 2: like how your parents are responding, reacting to things. 154 00:08:13,930 --> 00:08:15,970 Speaker 1: And the point I want to make, Ashton, that you 155 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:18,490 Speaker 1: made so beautifully for me is that if you are 156 00:08:18,510 --> 00:08:22,330 Speaker 1: a parent right now, don't ever think that what you're 157 00:08:22,370 --> 00:08:24,950 Speaker 1: doing is not somehow rubbing off on your children or 158 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,550 Speaker 1: your grandchildren. Because that's what happened to you. And Ashton, honestly, 159 00:08:28,730 --> 00:08:32,910 Speaker 1: until you went off to college and I saw you pray, 160 00:08:32,929 --> 00:08:37,780 Speaker 1: I had absolutely no idea that you had observed how 161 00:08:37,860 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: prayer and decision-making went hand in hand. So I just 162 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,020 Speaker 1: want to encourage everybody that's out there listening, you know, 163 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,949 Speaker 1: that your kids and your grandkids, they're watching how we live. 164 00:08:46,990 --> 00:08:49,620 Speaker 1: And I'll be it. so imperfectly, right? Because none of 165 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,660 Speaker 1: us are perfect. But I want to jump to when 166 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:54,780 Speaker 1: you went off to school, because again, as I mentioned, 167 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,540 Speaker 1: a lot of people are in transition right now. And 168 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: one of the things that when you have a loved 169 00:08:59,950 --> 00:09:02,290 Speaker 1: one that's in transition is that you kind of want 170 00:09:02,309 --> 00:09:06,390 Speaker 1: to rescue them. But if you rescue them, sometimes they 171 00:09:06,429 --> 00:09:10,850 Speaker 1: don't learn the resilience and that they have both within 172 00:09:10,870 --> 00:09:14,050 Speaker 1: themselves and the dependence that they can have on the 173 00:09:14,090 --> 00:09:17,230 Speaker 1: Lord and they can grow. And so, like you said, 174 00:09:17,250 --> 00:09:19,370 Speaker 1: we're kind of out there. And the fact that you 175 00:09:19,410 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: had to do it on your own, it wasn't a 176 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,540 Speaker 1: bad thing. I guess what I want to say is like, 177 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,380 Speaker 1: even if your child is in kindergarten or what, I mean, 178 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,500 Speaker 1: there's an appropriate helping them. I'm just throwing them to 179 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: the wolves. But you don't want to like rescue every 180 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: little thing. Otherwise, they don't learn that there is something. 181 00:09:36,030 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to take someone's struggle away if 182 00:09:38,460 --> 00:09:41,700 Speaker 2: that's going to lead them to being stronger, more mature, 183 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: more like Christ. I think that in transition, however you 184 00:09:45,580 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: want to say it, or change, I think we're just 185 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,810 Speaker 2: so afraid of change that we do everything we can 186 00:09:51,870 --> 00:09:54,910 Speaker 2: to avoid things that feel hard. But the things that 187 00:09:54,970 --> 00:09:58,750 Speaker 2: feel hard actually lead us to be more like Christ, 188 00:09:58,809 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: more complete in Christ if we allow it to. So 189 00:10:02,220 --> 00:10:05,020 Speaker 2: it's this perspective shift that I think if you're listening 190 00:10:05,059 --> 00:10:07,940 Speaker 2: and you're someone who's like observing or experiencing on the 191 00:10:07,980 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: other side, more of a backseat approach of watching someone 192 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,429 Speaker 2: you love going through a hardship transition change, know that 193 00:10:16,770 --> 00:10:21,700 Speaker 2: your biggest contribution is actually like supporting them through it, 194 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: not taking it away from them. Taking it away from 195 00:10:24,940 --> 00:10:28,620 Speaker 2: them is going to create, not necessarily create, but there's 196 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,470 Speaker 2: an option of creating a really soft individual, someone who 197 00:10:33,050 --> 00:10:37,010 Speaker 2: doesn't know how to go through hard things or kind 198 00:10:37,190 --> 00:10:40,170 Speaker 2: of process through them, heal through them, depend on the 199 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:42,510 Speaker 2: Lord through them. You don't want to become a pain 200 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:45,070 Speaker 2: avoider because that's just like not how life is lived. 201 00:10:45,130 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: And then you're creating someone who would like isn't prepared 202 00:10:47,910 --> 00:10:50,020 Speaker 2: for the world and then they're in their 30s or 203 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: they're in their 20s or their 40s and they're like 204 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: wait this is not the life I thought I was 205 00:10:53,900 --> 00:10:56,140 Speaker 2: going to live and then they do everything they can 206 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: to avoid the things that are hard and it's like 207 00:10:58,020 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: no that's just life it's good it's bad it's ugly 208 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:04,820 Speaker 2: it's hard it's beautiful it's good but if we avoid 209 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: that then we don't actually get to grow you only 210 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,380 Speaker 2: just stay at one level of who you are and 211 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,750 Speaker 2: like that's just not what God has for us Like 212 00:11:11,790 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: you only experience like one layer of who Jesus really is. 213 00:11:15,940 --> 00:11:17,980 Speaker 2: You don't get to see like the nitty gritty Jesus. 214 00:11:18,020 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: You get to see some other version of him. And 215 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: like when you know a nitty gritty Jesus, you're like, 216 00:11:22,420 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm never going back. 217 00:11:24,260 --> 00:11:28,189 Speaker 1: Ashton, when you know a nitty gritty Jesus, you're never 218 00:11:28,250 --> 00:11:31,630 Speaker 1: going back. Oh, that's a mic drop. That's a mic drop. Okay, 219 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:34,250 Speaker 1: we're going to take a quick break. And when we 220 00:11:34,270 --> 00:11:36,670 Speaker 1: come back, I have more questions for you. And I 221 00:11:36,670 --> 00:11:38,910 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear how you answer so that we 222 00:11:38,929 --> 00:11:43,780 Speaker 1: can all just learn and grow through your wisdom. Okay, 223 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,660 Speaker 1: so Ashton, you're talking to us about just the importance 224 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:52,130 Speaker 1: of helping someone through a transition, not rescuing them from 225 00:11:52,170 --> 00:11:54,670 Speaker 1: the transition, because then it helps us, as you said 226 00:11:54,750 --> 00:11:57,810 Speaker 1: right before the break, know the nitty gritty Jesus, the 227 00:11:57,910 --> 00:12:00,429 Speaker 1: one that's like down there in the dirt with you, 228 00:12:00,650 --> 00:12:03,340 Speaker 1: the one that's like, I got you, girl. I'm right 229 00:12:03,380 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: here wrestling with you. So, you know, you went off 230 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: to college. Like you said, you were all by yourself. 231 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: You didn't have a single friend, no family, nothing like that. 232 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,390 Speaker 1: Tell us just quickly about the day. Do you know 233 00:12:14,410 --> 00:12:15,489 Speaker 1: what I'm going to ask you right now? 234 00:12:15,850 --> 00:12:17,070 Speaker 2: My first day of college? 235 00:12:17,309 --> 00:12:17,469 Speaker 1: Yes. 236 00:12:18,750 --> 00:12:19,790 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go into it. 237 00:12:19,790 --> 00:12:20,390 Speaker 1: Okay. 238 00:12:20,950 --> 00:12:23,750 Speaker 2: One thing that I, and maybe this will help you, 239 00:12:23,830 --> 00:12:25,350 Speaker 2: if you're a person and you're like, okay, I want 240 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:28,570 Speaker 2: to help my family, my friend. my daughter, my son, 241 00:12:28,990 --> 00:12:31,610 Speaker 2: whoever it is, if they don't already have like some 242 00:12:31,630 --> 00:12:35,430 Speaker 2: things determined to make them successful through their transition, that's 243 00:12:35,470 --> 00:12:37,449 Speaker 2: a great way to also help them in a more 244 00:12:37,490 --> 00:12:40,630 Speaker 2: like tangible sense other than just like praying. Because I 245 00:12:40,690 --> 00:12:43,210 Speaker 2: went in and I communicate this because I'm very verbal 246 00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:44,980 Speaker 2: and I remember telling you this. I want to get 247 00:12:45,010 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: involved in like a Christian organization and I want to 248 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,939 Speaker 2: find a church because that's like where I'm going to 249 00:12:49,980 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: find my friends and my people. And so if you 250 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:55,300 Speaker 2: have a high schooler who's like going to high school, 251 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,220 Speaker 2: they're going to be a freshman, talk to them about 252 00:12:57,260 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: having like, you're going into this new season of life. 253 00:12:59,540 --> 00:13:00,860 Speaker 2: What are we going to do? What are you going 254 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,860 Speaker 2: to do in order to like live your best self 255 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,860 Speaker 2: or like live your best life in the best way 256 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: that God wants you to? So let's find some Christian 257 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: groups or like, is there like a mentorship program that 258 00:13:10,420 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: will like help you through your high school years? Just 259 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,420 Speaker 2: things like that, I think also can alleviate maybe some 260 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:18,950 Speaker 2: like fear or stress or anxiousness that you might be 261 00:13:18,990 --> 00:13:22,590 Speaker 2: experiencing as you watch someone go through a change. But 262 00:13:22,970 --> 00:13:25,010 Speaker 2: going back to what you were asking, my first day 263 00:13:25,030 --> 00:13:27,790 Speaker 2: of college, just again, I'm very visual. So like it 264 00:13:27,809 --> 00:13:31,510 Speaker 2: was a really muggy, ugly day in Alabama. I was 265 00:13:31,690 --> 00:13:34,689 Speaker 2: so sweaty and I had an 8 a.m. class, which 266 00:13:34,750 --> 00:13:37,689 Speaker 2: I never would recommend. Do not sign up for an 267 00:13:37,690 --> 00:13:40,010 Speaker 2: 8 a.m. You will regret it for the rest of 268 00:13:40,030 --> 00:13:45,090 Speaker 2: your life. Anyways, I go to class and it finishes. 269 00:13:45,210 --> 00:13:47,550 Speaker 2: And obviously, like you're not in school for seven hours 270 00:13:47,610 --> 00:13:50,370 Speaker 2: a day. College is like so sporadic. And I was 271 00:13:50,490 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: pretty much done. That's all I had on my calendar. 272 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,500 Speaker 2: And I didn't have anyone and know anyone. And me 273 00:13:56,540 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: being super extroverted, being very social, that just felt really intimidating. 274 00:14:01,420 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: And so I just did what any normal college kid 275 00:14:04,780 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: would do. I just went back up to my dorm room. 276 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,910 Speaker 2: And I remember sitting there and I just felt so alone. 277 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:13,370 Speaker 2: And I was like getting really sad, just feeling really 278 00:14:13,470 --> 00:14:16,430 Speaker 2: overwhelmed with all of these super anxious thoughts like, oh 279 00:14:16,450 --> 00:14:18,210 Speaker 2: my gosh, did I make the biggest mistake? Why did 280 00:14:18,230 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: I move here? I don't know anyone. This just feels 281 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,300 Speaker 2: so foreign. The culture is different. I don't know if 282 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,460 Speaker 2: this is the right thing. Like just doubt after doubt 283 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: after doubt after doubt. And then I was like, I 284 00:14:27,940 --> 00:14:29,980 Speaker 2: need to talk to someone. So I called you. It 285 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:32,470 Speaker 2: was like, I don't even know, probably like 930 in 286 00:14:32,490 --> 00:14:35,470 Speaker 2: the morning, Alabama time. And I was like, oh my gosh, like, 287 00:14:35,570 --> 00:14:37,650 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. Like, I had my 288 00:14:37,690 --> 00:14:40,410 Speaker 2: first class. I don't know. I have to make a mistake. 289 00:14:40,830 --> 00:14:42,870 Speaker 2: And you had given me such great advice. You're like, 290 00:14:42,930 --> 00:14:44,790 Speaker 2: first of all, get out of your room. Like you 291 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: are isolated and like your person needs to be outside, 292 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:50,890 Speaker 2: which is so true. I'm an outdoor dog. So I 293 00:14:50,910 --> 00:14:53,330 Speaker 2: needed to be outside with people, even if I wasn't 294 00:14:53,370 --> 00:14:56,770 Speaker 2: talking to anyone. Just being around people, like, seriously can, like, 295 00:14:56,830 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: save your soul. Like, especially now in my life as 296 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: a mom, I'm like, I'm just going to the grocery store. 297 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:01,820 Speaker 2: I'm not going to buy anything. I'm just going to 298 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: see someone. Like, why is he another adult? 299 00:15:06,580 --> 00:15:11,650 Speaker 1: The cheapest therapy ever. Go to the grocery store. Exactly. So. 300 00:15:13,090 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: Anyways, and you were like, bring your Bible, like just 301 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:16,910 Speaker 2: go outside and like have a quiet time. It doesn't 302 00:15:16,930 --> 00:15:19,210 Speaker 2: matter where, just go somewhere. So I went to our 303 00:15:19,270 --> 00:15:22,830 Speaker 2: quad around campus, which is like this huge field and 304 00:15:22,870 --> 00:15:26,910 Speaker 2: like all the classrooms and just, yeah, different halls surround it. 305 00:15:26,970 --> 00:15:29,390 Speaker 2: So it's like a very much like a central space 306 00:15:29,470 --> 00:15:31,750 Speaker 2: on campus. And I sat on a bench and I 307 00:15:31,770 --> 00:15:35,410 Speaker 2: was reading my Bible and this girl randomly came up 308 00:15:35,470 --> 00:15:37,970 Speaker 2: to me and was like, hey, I never do this, 309 00:15:38,050 --> 00:15:40,290 Speaker 2: but I saw you reading your Bible and And I 310 00:15:40,390 --> 00:15:42,900 Speaker 2: wanted to invite you to this college group that we 311 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: have on Thursday nights. And I immediately was like, oh 312 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:49,380 Speaker 2: my gosh, like, thank you, God. Like, this is such 313 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: an answer to prayer. And it happens to be the 314 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: church that I ended up going to for the rest 315 00:15:54,780 --> 00:15:57,540 Speaker 2: of my college career. I ended up interning with them 316 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: my senior year. And that church was like such a 317 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: blessing in so many ways with my own faith, my 318 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:07,940 Speaker 2: own like community. And like now in retrospect, So much 319 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: of like my prayer life expectancy kind of like perspective 320 00:16:12,380 --> 00:16:16,250 Speaker 2: on what prayer is really came out of that church. 321 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: And it really started with that one girl saying yes 322 00:16:20,250 --> 00:16:23,330 Speaker 2: to the call of just inviting me. And then that 323 00:16:23,390 --> 00:16:25,550 Speaker 2: came out of me saying yes to my mom saying 324 00:16:25,570 --> 00:16:31,250 Speaker 2: go outside. So anyways, that was such a pivotal day 325 00:16:31,290 --> 00:16:35,050 Speaker 2: like in my life because I her saying yes and 326 00:16:35,090 --> 00:16:37,290 Speaker 2: being obedient to the Holy Spirit and then me saying 327 00:16:37,310 --> 00:16:40,350 Speaker 2: yes and being obedient to the Holy Spirit led to 328 00:16:40,410 --> 00:16:43,850 Speaker 2: such great fruitfulness where 11 years later, we're having this 329 00:16:43,890 --> 00:16:44,770 Speaker 2: conversation about it. 330 00:16:45,310 --> 00:16:47,630 Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember that call like it was yesterday because 331 00:16:47,650 --> 00:16:50,110 Speaker 1: I remember you were crying like, I thought everybody's at 332 00:16:50,130 --> 00:16:52,490 Speaker 1: a college. It's supposed to be the best time of 333 00:16:52,510 --> 00:16:57,500 Speaker 1: your life and I'm so miserable. And I remember telling you, okay, sweetheart, 334 00:16:58,270 --> 00:17:02,550 Speaker 1: everybody feels this way. You're so normal. Like, Go look 335 00:17:02,570 --> 00:17:04,810 Speaker 1: at the girl next door in her dorm room. Like 336 00:17:04,950 --> 00:17:07,820 Speaker 1: she's probably having the same conversation with her mom. Go 337 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: look at the other girl on the other side. She's 338 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: probably having the same and just kind of validating like 339 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: your experience, which I think personally is really helpful. is 340 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,820 Speaker 1: to validate somebody's emotions and just help people know like, 341 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:23,660 Speaker 1: you're not crazy. Everybody feels this. You're going to be okay. 342 00:17:23,940 --> 00:17:27,260 Speaker 1: This is so normal and it's okay that you feel 343 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: that way, but go outside, you know, let's think of 344 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:33,550 Speaker 1: some action plans and don't just sit in the emotion 345 00:17:33,670 --> 00:17:36,689 Speaker 1: of it. validate the emotions, but then let's move forward. 346 00:17:36,830 --> 00:17:39,310 Speaker 1: But I love that, that chain of events then, because 347 00:17:39,369 --> 00:17:42,530 Speaker 1: you did that, and then this gal was obedient, which 348 00:17:42,810 --> 00:17:44,669 Speaker 1: must have been really scary for her. But she did 349 00:17:44,690 --> 00:17:46,790 Speaker 1: it anyway, and little did she know, you would end 350 00:17:46,830 --> 00:17:49,230 Speaker 1: up on a podcast talking about prayer. I know. 351 00:17:49,450 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: Who's that girl? I know. 352 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,140 Speaker 1: You should find her, Ashton. But this is really cool 353 00:17:53,180 --> 00:17:57,430 Speaker 1: because it was in college where it Prayer really gripped you. 354 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:59,470 Speaker 1: And I will have to say, I'm going to say this, honestly, 355 00:17:59,650 --> 00:18:01,570 Speaker 1: like even though we started off, you and I, this 356 00:18:01,609 --> 00:18:04,850 Speaker 1: podcast talking about how you watched dad and I kind 357 00:18:04,869 --> 00:18:07,410 Speaker 1: of fast when we had a big decision, I would 358 00:18:07,450 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: have to say that we pray. Prayer is a big 359 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,940 Speaker 1: part of our lives, but I would never put myself 360 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: in the category of, oh, like you're some big prayer 361 00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: warrior or you're some big, I put myself in the 362 00:18:18,780 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: category of like, I'm a Christian. and I talked to God, right? 363 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,150 Speaker 1: And the reason I'm saying that is because what God 364 00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:29,649 Speaker 1: has done in your life is it supersedes anything. It's 365 00:18:29,730 --> 00:18:32,790 Speaker 1: from the Lord. It supersedes anything that you learned growing up. 366 00:18:33,150 --> 00:18:36,910 Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about how prayer even 367 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:39,810 Speaker 1: became interesting to you, because let's be honest, a lot 368 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: of people think it's boring and something that you felt 369 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,300 Speaker 1: confident in because a lot of people feel very insecure 370 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,219 Speaker 1: in their prayers. So talk to us a little bit 371 00:18:49,260 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: about that. 372 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,090 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I would even say that goes back 373 00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:55,270 Speaker 2: to just like me growing up. Like I actually thought 374 00:18:55,290 --> 00:18:58,689 Speaker 2: about this the other day where I, this sounds so 375 00:18:58,750 --> 00:19:00,869 Speaker 2: funny now. Now I don't even care. I don't give 376 00:19:00,910 --> 00:19:02,670 Speaker 2: a rip about what I sound like, what I look 377 00:19:02,690 --> 00:19:05,149 Speaker 2: like when I pray, like doesn't matter. But I wasn't 378 00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:08,369 Speaker 2: always like that, especially praying in front of people. I 379 00:19:08,430 --> 00:19:10,570 Speaker 2: remember our youth group at the time, like when I 380 00:19:10,590 --> 00:19:12,870 Speaker 2: was in middle school and high school, they had like 381 00:19:12,990 --> 00:19:16,889 Speaker 2: a prayer session or group. before Sunday services. And I 382 00:19:16,930 --> 00:19:19,230 Speaker 2: was at the time like really wanting to get involved. 383 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:21,570 Speaker 2: That's like really when I made a decision for myself 384 00:19:21,609 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: to follow the Lord. And so I felt like that's 385 00:19:24,460 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: something I should go to. But I remember physically like 386 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,530 Speaker 2: my eyes were shut and I really felt like I 387 00:19:29,550 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: should pray, like I should pray out loud. But I 388 00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: remember like I would get this sensation like I was 389 00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:36,350 Speaker 2: spinning like my head, my brain felt like it was 390 00:19:36,530 --> 00:19:39,169 Speaker 2: actually spinning. I would get sweaty. And then I would 391 00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:40,669 Speaker 2: just get nervous and be like, I'm out. Like I'm 392 00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:42,730 Speaker 2: not doing it. I would like get to the point 393 00:19:42,750 --> 00:19:44,729 Speaker 2: of like, I'm going to say something. And then all 394 00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: of these physical manifestations happen and I'd be like, I'm 395 00:19:47,780 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: not doing it. 396 00:19:48,580 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm just here. 397 00:19:49,060 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: Eventually, I got over that. But oh my gosh, the 398 00:19:52,780 --> 00:19:54,980 Speaker 2: amount of times I've stumbled on my words, have said 399 00:19:55,020 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: something wrong, misquoted a scripture. The Lord knows my heart. 400 00:20:00,140 --> 00:20:04,050 Speaker 2: He's the one who sees all things. But it's okay. 401 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,690 Speaker 2: I think that a great place to start is take 402 00:20:07,710 --> 00:20:10,869 Speaker 2: the pressure off. The only prayers that suck are the 403 00:20:10,930 --> 00:20:14,450 Speaker 2: prayers that aren't prayed. So it's all good. And if 404 00:20:14,609 --> 00:20:17,430 Speaker 2: anyone is telling you otherwise, don't listen to it. That's 405 00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: literally not the truth. That's not from the Lord. He's 406 00:20:19,940 --> 00:20:22,260 Speaker 2: not afraid of what you have to say. He's not 407 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,020 Speaker 2: afraid of how ugly it's going to sound. He can 408 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: take it. So just start by starting. That's a great 409 00:20:28,940 --> 00:20:32,290 Speaker 2: place to be. So no barriers to entry. That's what 410 00:20:32,330 --> 00:20:34,530 Speaker 2: God wants to tell you today, right? There are no 411 00:20:34,570 --> 00:20:36,530 Speaker 2: barriers to entry when it comes to prayer. There are 412 00:20:36,609 --> 00:20:40,650 Speaker 2: ways to pray, but don't allow yourself to be stopped 413 00:20:40,750 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: because you don't think you know the ways to pray. 414 00:20:43,390 --> 00:20:46,250 Speaker 2: I think that when I was in college, what really 415 00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:49,889 Speaker 2: stirred a sense of confidence in me was that the 416 00:20:49,930 --> 00:20:51,290 Speaker 2: church I was going to at the time, they still 417 00:20:51,310 --> 00:20:53,950 Speaker 2: do this, they do 21 days of prayer. And I 418 00:20:53,950 --> 00:20:56,389 Speaker 2: remember I was on leadership in their college ministry. And 419 00:20:56,410 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: so it was required as a leader to go. And 420 00:20:59,490 --> 00:21:01,260 Speaker 2: at first I was like, whoa, this is a lot. 421 00:21:01,340 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: It was prayer and fasting. And so I did fast. 422 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,340 Speaker 2: I didn't do a physical fast at the time. I 423 00:21:06,380 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: was just doing a social media fast, which I highly recommend. 424 00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: But for 21 days, I would get up at 5.30 425 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,810 Speaker 2: and drive to the church campus. And from 6 to 7, 426 00:21:15,790 --> 00:21:19,590 Speaker 2: we would have a prayer service. And that was such 427 00:21:19,650 --> 00:21:25,450 Speaker 2: a wonderful discipline that opened my eyes to praying for 428 00:21:25,730 --> 00:21:28,429 Speaker 2: my own needs, praying for the needs of others, and 429 00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:32,100 Speaker 2: then really interceding for like the church, the church body, 430 00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: the world, and taking it, I think, just more seriously, 431 00:21:35,940 --> 00:21:38,660 Speaker 2: not that prayer has to be serious, but just the 432 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,290 Speaker 2: holy burden that we have to like pray and the 433 00:21:41,330 --> 00:21:43,510 Speaker 2: authority that God has given us. I think I really 434 00:21:43,550 --> 00:21:45,090 Speaker 2: learned that in that season of my life where I 435 00:21:45,090 --> 00:21:47,350 Speaker 2: was like, wow, God's given me a lot of authority 436 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:51,250 Speaker 2: to like pray certain things, proclaim certain things, say certain things. 437 00:21:51,609 --> 00:21:54,310 Speaker 2: And like, I need to do this. This is such 438 00:21:54,350 --> 00:21:58,430 Speaker 2: a great gift and like resource at my disposal. Like, 439 00:21:58,710 --> 00:22:01,490 Speaker 2: let's go. And then when I was around other people 440 00:22:01,590 --> 00:22:04,970 Speaker 2: doing that, that also was just so igniting to my 441 00:22:05,030 --> 00:22:08,340 Speaker 2: faith and like igniting to like my prayer life. Seeing 442 00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:11,219 Speaker 2: other people in all different stages, just like praying and 443 00:22:11,340 --> 00:22:14,379 Speaker 2: worshiping was so life-giving to me. And it was very 444 00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:17,780 Speaker 2: I was like, wow, there are people all over. I 445 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: don't know where they find themselves on their spiritual journey, 446 00:22:20,180 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: but they are here. They're committed and they're going to 447 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,010 Speaker 2: the Lord in prayer and worship. And like, I want 448 00:22:27,050 --> 00:22:29,390 Speaker 2: that and I want to be like that. So that 449 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:31,210 Speaker 2: kind of just stirred me on. So every kind of 450 00:22:31,550 --> 00:22:34,450 Speaker 2: season or new semester, they would have that. I would 451 00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:35,990 Speaker 2: go to it. And again, I would just have this 452 00:22:36,030 --> 00:22:38,990 Speaker 2: like really great, it was more than just like feeling great. 453 00:22:39,030 --> 00:22:41,629 Speaker 2: There was just such a sense of God moving. And 454 00:22:41,650 --> 00:22:43,970 Speaker 2: then when you do it with other people, it's so 455 00:22:44,550 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: like momentous. It's something where, you know, it's like riding 456 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,470 Speaker 2: a wave when you're a surfer. It's just like, you 457 00:22:49,490 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: just want to catch that wave. Like you want to 458 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: get on it. And so you don't want it to 459 00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:55,340 Speaker 2: crash before you can enjoy it. That's kind of like 460 00:22:55,380 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: how I would see it when it came to the 461 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,100 Speaker 2: 21 days of prayer experiences and worship nights and things 462 00:23:00,140 --> 00:23:00,420 Speaker 2: like that. 463 00:23:00,619 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: Now, what about if somebody is listening and they're like, gosh, 464 00:23:02,780 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: that sounds really great, but I don't live anywhere near 465 00:23:05,380 --> 00:23:07,899 Speaker 1: a church that does something like that. So how can 466 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: I kind of get excited about prayer and feel motivated 467 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,490 Speaker 1: and not feel like it's just this boring task? And 468 00:23:13,530 --> 00:23:16,410 Speaker 1: also I'm gonna ask a two-part question because you talked about, 469 00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:19,689 Speaker 1: you started to learn about like the authority. And I'm 470 00:23:19,730 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: thinking now even of like, the moms, the grandmothers, the 471 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,820 Speaker 1: friends that are like, I want to have authority in 472 00:23:25,859 --> 00:23:28,850 Speaker 1: my prayer over my loved ones, like maybe their salvation 473 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,530 Speaker 1: or that sort of thing. And really, gosh, I want 474 00:23:31,570 --> 00:23:34,389 Speaker 1: my prayers to stand in the gap for somebody that 475 00:23:34,410 --> 00:23:36,010 Speaker 1: I love. So talk to us about those two things. 476 00:23:36,670 --> 00:23:40,910 Speaker 2: I would say that if you are at a gospel-centered, 477 00:23:41,330 --> 00:23:43,709 Speaker 2: healthy church, there is some sort of like prayer that 478 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,380 Speaker 2: is available for you. And if there's not, maybe you're 479 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,820 Speaker 2: the one to start it. If you are listening to 480 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,780 Speaker 2: this and you're like, wait, this is like something I 481 00:23:50,820 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: want to consider, I would say, talk to your pastors 482 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: about that. Talk to a community group leader. Say like, 483 00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:57,859 Speaker 2: what do we have on prayer? And like, what can 484 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,609 Speaker 2: I learn? But on your own individual time outside of 485 00:24:00,650 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: like the corporate setting of church, I would just say 486 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,580 Speaker 2: what it looks like for me really realistically is I 487 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,830 Speaker 2: really like to coincide like prayer and also like worship. 488 00:24:09,910 --> 00:24:11,510 Speaker 2: I think that those have really helped me kind of 489 00:24:11,530 --> 00:24:14,390 Speaker 2: just like foster this heart and like this posture of 490 00:24:14,790 --> 00:24:18,470 Speaker 2: really seeing God, seeking God, being a little bit less distracted. 491 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,859 Speaker 2: So I would say that like put on some worship music. 492 00:24:22,550 --> 00:24:24,790 Speaker 2: And go to the scriptures like that is the best 493 00:24:24,890 --> 00:24:28,090 Speaker 2: way to just like start off. All of the Psalms 494 00:24:28,150 --> 00:24:30,669 Speaker 2: are pretty much prayers or songs to the Lord. And 495 00:24:30,730 --> 00:24:33,990 Speaker 2: so the Psalms are great. Jesus mentions like a bunch 496 00:24:34,030 --> 00:24:36,090 Speaker 2: of different ways of praying. There's a lot of prayers 497 00:24:36,109 --> 00:24:38,670 Speaker 2: that Paul talks about, like in the book of Ephesians 498 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 2: or just different books in the New Testament that are 499 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,740 Speaker 2: like literal prayers that you can adopt for yourself. and 500 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: like insert yourself into that prayer you are a child 501 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,860 Speaker 2: of God and like you've been given every spiritual blessing 502 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: and that all the different stuff like that I like 503 00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:53,969 Speaker 2: I would say like those are great places to start 504 00:24:54,170 --> 00:24:56,090 Speaker 2: you're never going to go wrong with praying scripture like 505 00:24:56,130 --> 00:24:58,429 Speaker 2: that's what you really should be praying and that I 506 00:24:58,470 --> 00:25:01,530 Speaker 2: think is a great honestly just like the backbone of 507 00:25:01,570 --> 00:25:05,100 Speaker 2: prayer ministry anyways is like praying what is already written 508 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,980 Speaker 2: and just like affirming that, speaking over your life. And 509 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,619 Speaker 2: there's a lot of power in that. You don't have 510 00:25:10,660 --> 00:25:14,260 Speaker 2: to come up with some like original good, like, whoa, Lord, 511 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: just pray what was written before you. 512 00:25:17,660 --> 00:25:19,620 Speaker 1: Like, give us an example of how you might do that. 513 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,580 Speaker 1: Insert into scripture. 514 00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,139 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I had something like that. But I'll 515 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,290 Speaker 2: just give you an example. We read the prayer group 516 00:25:25,310 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: last week, Romans 8. It says, therefore... there's no condemnation 517 00:25:28,859 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: for those who are in Christ Jesus. If you are 518 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: a Christian, that is you. So you could say like Ashton, 519 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,780 Speaker 2: there's no condemnation for you who are in Christ. If 520 00:25:36,820 --> 00:25:38,900 Speaker 2: you have a son or a daughter who is a Christian, 521 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,730 Speaker 2: you could say James is not condemned. Like he is 522 00:25:43,109 --> 00:25:46,210 Speaker 2: found new in Christ Jesus. There's no condemnation for him. 523 00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:49,649 Speaker 2: So if he feels any sort of shame condemnation, feeling 524 00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:52,369 Speaker 2: of not good enough, defeat. I pray right now that 525 00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:54,350 Speaker 2: that is not true over his identity, that he doesn't 526 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:57,209 Speaker 2: think that, speak that over himself. He has friends who 527 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,820 Speaker 2: affirm his identity in Christ, that his thoughts are oriented 528 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,570 Speaker 2: towards thinking that he is free and like he's free 529 00:26:04,590 --> 00:26:07,190 Speaker 2: in Christ and like there's no condemnation over him, that 530 00:26:07,250 --> 00:26:10,340 Speaker 2: he is completely seen through a lens of grace. That's 531 00:26:10,380 --> 00:26:13,020 Speaker 2: a great prayer to pray over someone that you know. Gosh, 532 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: the book of Ephesians is so good. I love the 533 00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:18,419 Speaker 2: book of Ephesians. There's so much like exhortation and encouragement 534 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: that we can receive and we need. Psalm 139, the 535 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: one that's all about like how God formed you and 536 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,330 Speaker 2: made you and sees you. If you're feeling like, oh 537 00:26:26,350 --> 00:26:28,870 Speaker 2: my gosh, where are you, God? Insert your name into 538 00:26:28,890 --> 00:26:32,109 Speaker 2: that scripture and say, God, you made Ashton the innermost place. 539 00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:35,010 Speaker 2: You see me even in like, where can I go 540 00:26:35,090 --> 00:26:37,510 Speaker 2: where you can't find me? Those are just a few 541 00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:38,390 Speaker 2: that are on top of my head. 542 00:26:38,990 --> 00:26:41,450 Speaker 1: That's so good. Okay, so you lead the prayer ministry 543 00:26:41,570 --> 00:26:44,429 Speaker 1: at our church and you just referred to Romans 8 544 00:26:44,430 --> 00:26:47,050 Speaker 1: and you did something last Friday that it was just like, Ashlyn, 545 00:26:47,150 --> 00:26:49,989 Speaker 1: I don't think I will ever forget the analogy that 546 00:26:50,050 --> 00:26:53,210 Speaker 1: you gave. It really impacted me. So do you mind 547 00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:53,730 Speaker 1: sharing that? 548 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:56,830 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not at all. One of my spiritual gifts 549 00:26:57,150 --> 00:27:01,730 Speaker 2: is like exhortation. So I love to champion people into one, 550 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,700 Speaker 2: seeing who they really are and like exhorting them into 551 00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:08,379 Speaker 2: being like, no, believe it. From that belief, live it. 552 00:27:09,230 --> 00:27:12,870 Speaker 2: So I was reading in my own time Romans 8, 553 00:27:12,869 --> 00:27:15,609 Speaker 2: and I really had this sense like, we need to 554 00:27:15,650 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: speak this out. And there's something here, obviously, Scripture. There's 555 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,740 Speaker 2: always going to be something there. But I took the 556 00:27:22,780 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: women and I told them as I got ready to 557 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,419 Speaker 2: kind of get prayer going. I always lead with Scripture. 558 00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 2: That's how I always lead prayer. And I said... You 559 00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:35,619 Speaker 2: need to see this as Paul is your boxing coach. 560 00:27:35,810 --> 00:27:38,530 Speaker 2: And like, we are just living like the different rounds 561 00:27:38,570 --> 00:27:41,070 Speaker 2: of life. And when boxers take a break from like 562 00:27:41,230 --> 00:27:44,020 Speaker 2: one round, they sit down, they have the towel on 563 00:27:44,060 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: their neck, the guy squirting water in their mouth, and 564 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,340 Speaker 2: they take their mouth guard off. And they're just like, 565 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,889 Speaker 2: but Their coach is right in their ear. And like 566 00:27:52,930 --> 00:27:54,970 Speaker 2: they're down low and they're like kind of crouched down 567 00:27:55,020 --> 00:27:56,460 Speaker 2: and they're telling them like, all right, this is what 568 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: you have to do for your next round because you 569 00:27:57,940 --> 00:27:59,980 Speaker 2: got 10 more rounds. It's not like you're just going 570 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: to do this for like another two minutes. Like you 571 00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: have many more rounds to go. And like that's just 572 00:28:04,380 --> 00:28:07,260 Speaker 2: that's how life is. There are many more rounds to live. 573 00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: There are many more rounds to go. So what are 574 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,100 Speaker 2: you going to do? in your next round. And I 575 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,940 Speaker 2: kind of use that as a preface of like, that's 576 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,050 Speaker 2: what Paul, like that's Paul's posture to us in Romans 8. 577 00:28:20,050 --> 00:28:22,530 Speaker 2: And so like, don't listen to the crowd. That's like 578 00:28:22,650 --> 00:28:26,050 Speaker 2: watching the boxing ring. Listen to your coach and that's scripture. 579 00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:28,470 Speaker 2: And that's what Paul is writing to us. And so 580 00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:31,430 Speaker 2: as you're sitting there and you're catching your breath, remind yourself, 581 00:28:31,630 --> 00:28:34,010 Speaker 2: you are not condemned. You are victorious in Christ. There's 582 00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:36,540 Speaker 2: nothing that separates you from the love of God. You 583 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,700 Speaker 2: have a spirit of love and power and sound mind. 584 00:28:39,740 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: You're not given a spirit of fear. If you live 585 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 2: by the spirit, it's going to give you life and 586 00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: give you peace. And because you are a Christian, you 587 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: have that spirit. So don't live by your sinful nature, 588 00:28:48,820 --> 00:28:51,740 Speaker 2: live by the spirit. My whole analogy was just like, 589 00:28:52,220 --> 00:28:54,900 Speaker 2: You're a boxer. You're in the ring of life. You 590 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,190 Speaker 2: got to listen to your coach. And right now, your 591 00:28:57,230 --> 00:28:59,710 Speaker 2: coach is telling you Romans 8. So buckle up. 592 00:29:00,230 --> 00:29:03,110 Speaker 1: Buckle up, buttercup. Okay, then you read that over us. 593 00:29:03,370 --> 00:29:06,750 Speaker 1: And we all just visualized Jesus as our coach saying, hey, 594 00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:08,590 Speaker 1: I'm in your ear. This is what I want you 595 00:29:08,610 --> 00:29:10,510 Speaker 1: to know. And it was really, really powerful. 596 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,740 Speaker 2: Paul wrote it, but it's obviously inspired by the Lord. 597 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: It's Jesus who's the one who transformed us, not Paul. 598 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. My encouragement, if you're listening right now, 599 00:29:21,020 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: we finished this podcast and literally, I want you to 600 00:29:23,820 --> 00:29:26,660 Speaker 1: open up your Bible and read Romans 8 with that 601 00:29:26,740 --> 00:29:29,750 Speaker 1: in mind. And then think about it as maybe even 602 00:29:29,870 --> 00:29:31,650 Speaker 1: pray it for yourself and maybe pray it for one 603 00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:34,170 Speaker 1: of your kids or one of your grandkids or your spouse. 604 00:29:34,590 --> 00:29:36,910 Speaker 1: And just pray it like a coach and receive it 605 00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: like you're being coached. So Ashton, again, sit here and 606 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: talk to you all day because that's what we do. 607 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,300 Speaker 1: But is there any last thing that you would want 608 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: to say to our friends that are listening right now? 609 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,420 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just touch on like the second part 610 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,700 Speaker 2: of your question, which was talking about just like our 611 00:29:54,740 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: authority that we've been in. Because I feel like I'm 612 00:29:58,290 --> 00:30:00,290 Speaker 2: very practical. Like, thank you so much for all of 613 00:30:00,330 --> 00:30:02,350 Speaker 2: like the encouragement. But like, how do I practically live 614 00:30:02,370 --> 00:30:05,229 Speaker 2: this out? What do I do? So I would say 615 00:30:05,530 --> 00:30:08,370 Speaker 2: that kind of what we've just been discussing is like 616 00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: use scripture as your guide and believe your beliefs and trust. 617 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,530 Speaker 2: If you really believe that Jesus has sealed you with 618 00:30:17,550 --> 00:30:19,630 Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit and that what he said when he left, 619 00:30:19,690 --> 00:30:21,950 Speaker 2: which was you're going to do greater things than I did, 620 00:30:22,570 --> 00:30:25,910 Speaker 2: then believe that and believe that your prayers are the 621 00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: motion setters that make those greater things happen. So don't 622 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: count yourself out just because you may not have like 623 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,270 Speaker 2: the most physical or like digital footprint or influence that 624 00:30:38,290 --> 00:30:41,090 Speaker 2: doesn't matter like literally who cares the things that really 625 00:30:41,260 --> 00:30:44,740 Speaker 2: set like a spiritual tone in motion or like the 626 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,940 Speaker 2: wheel in motion is prayer People who have never experienced 627 00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:53,270 Speaker 2: or heard the gospel have amazing miraculous conversions because people 628 00:30:53,370 --> 00:30:55,730 Speaker 2: prayed for them. People interceded for them. People who are 629 00:30:55,910 --> 00:30:57,750 Speaker 2: so far gone that you would be like, you are 630 00:30:57,870 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: so lost. It's because of the prayers of moms, grandmothers, aunts, uncles, dads, sisters, 631 00:31:04,390 --> 00:31:07,980 Speaker 2: brothers who didn't stop praying that changed the course of 632 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,260 Speaker 2: that person's life. And so own your authority and know 633 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,620 Speaker 2: that you have authority. in Christ to pray certain things. 634 00:31:15,030 --> 00:31:18,030 Speaker 2: God isn't just saying like, oh, bind and loosen my 635 00:31:18,110 --> 00:31:20,110 Speaker 2: name just for the fun of it. Like he's saying 636 00:31:20,150 --> 00:31:23,210 Speaker 2: that because he said, I've given you this power. So like, 637 00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:25,620 Speaker 2: pray what you need to pray. And like, you don't 638 00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:28,130 Speaker 2: receive because you don't ask. So ask. It's not up 639 00:31:28,190 --> 00:31:30,050 Speaker 2: to us of when we get it or how we 640 00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:31,870 Speaker 2: get it or if we get it, but it is 641 00:31:31,930 --> 00:31:35,490 Speaker 2: up to us to pray those things. And so my 642 00:31:35,550 --> 00:31:39,190 Speaker 2: encouragement to you is whatever you're facing right now, one, 643 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,860 Speaker 2: surrender it to Christ because the blood of Jesus is 644 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: the most powerful thing. And if you claim your family 645 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: for Jesus, if you claim your marriage for Jesus, that 646 00:31:47,860 --> 00:31:50,780 Speaker 2: is such a holy and powerful prayer. And the devil 647 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,010 Speaker 2: is scared of that. And He's not bigger than you. 648 00:31:54,530 --> 00:31:57,870 Speaker 2: And just step into the authority that God has given you. 649 00:31:58,210 --> 00:32:01,410 Speaker 2: The most dangerous thing that the devil is afraid of 650 00:32:01,610 --> 00:32:05,290 Speaker 2: is an authoritative, empowered Christian. And he does his best 651 00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: work by making us feel complacent. He loves a complacent Christian. 652 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,940 Speaker 2: He loves a fearful Christian. No, don't be fearful. You've 653 00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:17,020 Speaker 2: been given a spirit of power and sound mind and 654 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: of love. And so use your prayers in order to 655 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,930 Speaker 2: shift that. what's going on in your life, in your world, 656 00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:26,090 Speaker 2: to like bless what's going on, to bless the transition, 657 00:32:26,150 --> 00:32:29,110 Speaker 2: to bless the change. God works all things together for 658 00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:32,150 Speaker 2: the good. So pray that and speak it out and 659 00:32:32,270 --> 00:32:34,770 Speaker 2: use your authority to just proclaim those things. 660 00:32:35,410 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: So good. And even as you're talking, Ashton, I'm realizing 661 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,980 Speaker 1: that I am witnessing one of the answers to my prayers, 662 00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:45,700 Speaker 1: which is what I prayed for you and your brother 663 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: and sister. And I prayed, Lord, help my children love Jesus. 664 00:32:51,550 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: even more than their dad and I love Jesus. And 665 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: I feel like that was a holy prayer that God 666 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: has been pleased to answer. So thank you so much 667 00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:04,970 Speaker 1: for being on the podcast. Thank you for being a 668 00:33:05,050 --> 00:33:07,530 Speaker 1: model to me of prayer because I've learned so much 669 00:33:07,690 --> 00:33:11,290 Speaker 1: from you about faith and believing. And like you said, 670 00:33:11,330 --> 00:33:13,330 Speaker 1: it's not up to us if we get it, when 671 00:33:13,370 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: we get it, how we get it. That's in the 672 00:33:15,170 --> 00:33:17,090 Speaker 1: hands of the Lord, but it is up to us. 673 00:33:17,710 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: that we ask and that we pray. We go to 674 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,020 Speaker 1: the Lord in prayer. So thank you so much, Ashton. 675 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: You're so welcome. Okay, one last thing I just want 676 00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:27,780 Speaker 2: to say. If you're in a place where you're like, 677 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this is actually like really moving me, 678 00:33:30,460 --> 00:33:34,230 Speaker 2: but I don't really know, get around people who stir 679 00:33:34,270 --> 00:33:38,060 Speaker 2: your faith and who have like stronger prayer walks or 680 00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: prayer moments or experiences, or who maybe are a little 681 00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:45,220 Speaker 2: bit more seasoned, get around people who are going to 682 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: elevate your faith, elevate your expectation, elevate your confidence in 683 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,500 Speaker 2: your prayer life, in your walk with the Lord, because 684 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,540 Speaker 2: that's only going to grow you and allow you to 685 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,110 Speaker 2: thrive and flourish and build in a sense of dependency 686 00:34:01,370 --> 00:34:03,730 Speaker 2: on the Lord and also just a confidence in talking 687 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:05,630 Speaker 2: to him, speaking with him and praying with him. 688 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:09,649 Speaker 1: So good. So good. Well, again, thank you so much 689 00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:12,610 Speaker 1: for being on the show. It was just my joy. 690 00:34:13,070 --> 00:34:14,859 Speaker 2: Oh, you're so welcome. I love being here anytime. 691 00:34:15,969 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: Well, wasn't that a great episode? I hope it was 692 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: just what you needed. I hope it motivated you to prayer. 693 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,379 Speaker 1: I hope it encouraged you if you are going through 694 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,379 Speaker 1: a transition or one of your loved ones is going 695 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,459 Speaker 1: through a transition. And hey, If you need prayer, you 696 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: know what? Ashton and I would be so, so honored 697 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: to pray for you. So here's all you have to do. 698 00:34:37,860 --> 00:34:41,969 Speaker 1: If you go on my website, DonnaJones.org, I have a 699 00:34:42,090 --> 00:34:45,170 Speaker 1: connect or contact, something like that. It says on my website. 700 00:34:45,310 --> 00:34:47,430 Speaker 1: If you click on that and you send me an email, 701 00:34:47,730 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: I will actually get that. And Ashton and I will 702 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,460 Speaker 1: pray for you. So please give us the honor of 703 00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: doing that for you if you need prayer in your life. 704 00:34:55,810 --> 00:34:59,380 Speaker 1: And again, the website is DonnaJones.org. And if you want 705 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,940 Speaker 1: to follow me on Instagram, it's Donna A. Jones on Facebook, 706 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,780 Speaker 1: Donna Jones Speaker and Author. Don't forget to subscribe because 707 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,770 Speaker 1: you don't want to miss a single episode. And as always, 708 00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:11,089 Speaker 1: my friend, I can't wait to see you next time 709 00:35:11,170 --> 00:35:13,510 Speaker 1: for That's Just What I Needed.