1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Life Audio, Hey, their friend, Welcome to the Compared To Podcast. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: This is the podcast for you if you've ever struggled 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: with comparison, and that's what we're talking about today. My 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: guest is Nicole Renard. You might know her as Nicole 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: the Nomad. She's a super interesting lady who competed in 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: pageants and was on Next Level Chef and has quite 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: a following on social media. But today she's here to 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: talk about the ways she's struggled with and overcome comparison. 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: And she's another one of our interviews. 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Like 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: this is better than any new plan you could start. 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: Check out that book, the forty Day Body masurec Book, 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: and all of my books today on Amazon. Nicole Renard, 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Compared to You Podcast. 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: Hello, thank you for having me. 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: Well it's so fun to be with you. I mean, 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: our partners that we share set us up. But when 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: I read your bio, I got super excited for a 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: number of reasons. 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Yes, this is so fun. 48 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: Reason one, so you and I have something in common. 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: I was also on a cooking show, although mine was not. 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: Shall we say, maybe it's prestigious. That's the when you 51 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: were on, because I was on nailed it. Yeah, that's awesome, 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: but you were right right where like it was, we 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: were set up to fail. I oh, my cake was 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: so bad, Nicole that they were They filmed our episode 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: as episode three of the first season. They moved the 56 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: show up to episode one because my cake was so 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: epically awful. 58 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: That actually an error. 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: Message on Netflix. It used to be that you saw 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: like my cake for a four error message. So anyway, 61 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: that's my claim. That's amazing. But you were on next 62 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: level chef. Yes, and I have to confess, like I'm 63 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: a huge Gordon Ramsey fan. 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 2: Oh who is it? I feel like everybody loves Gordon 65 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: and Ramsey. 66 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: That was that. 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: It was life changing, truly. I mean I feel like 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: I could write a book and maybe I will one 69 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: day about my experience. But it was one of the 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: coolest things I've ever done. It also was the hardest, 71 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: probably most stressful thing I've ever done. 72 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I've. 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Ever been so scared in my whole life because and 74 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: I don't even know if a lot of people know this, 75 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: but that if you follow me, you do that. I 76 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: just I felt like I shouldn't have been there. I 77 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: was the least experienced, the least qualified person to be 78 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: on that show. I'm not a formally trained chef by 79 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: any means, and I had just started my culinary journey. 80 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: So when I got the call that I was on 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: the show, I was convinced they had made a mistake. 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: I was like, You've got the wrong girl. And I 83 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: was so scared. But I'm so glad, I said, yes, 84 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm so glad I had the experience because I learned 85 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: so much through that journey. 86 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: Well, Nicole, can we go there? Because yes. What I 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about today was comparison. And it kind 88 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: of sounds like what you're saying underneath your what you're 89 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: saying is that you were comparing yourself to who all 90 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: the other contestants would be in their credentials. 91 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: I mean, in an environment like that it's hard not to. 92 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: And I know, I mean, you go into every day think, 93 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: you know, don't compear yourself to other people. But when 94 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: I was in a green room with that we started, 95 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: I think we started with twenty four and all of 96 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: them had way more experience than me, and we had 97 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: to go through the audition process, and I just it 98 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: took everything in me to remember that I was there 99 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: for a reason and that God had called me to 100 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: something unique. And again, it felt so random that I 101 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: was there that I'm like, there's got to be a reason, 102 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: and so I had to hold on to that and 103 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: truly leaning on the Lord for everything during that experience 104 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: beca I could not do that on my own. 105 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I love that, And I get 106 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: it when you say it was scary. I mean my 107 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: show was not scary in the same way, But I 108 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: don't know if it was that I would assume it 109 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: was this way on next level chef, I mean, the 110 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: producers are kind of adding a level of intensity, and 111 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: so we were kind of getting like yelled at to 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: the point where I had frozen to the like my 113 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: hands were covered in like funet and cake ball materials 114 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: and all the things and I didn't. I could not 115 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: see the sink, Like I was like, there's no sink. 116 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: I was just blind to trying to help my hands. 117 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: But like it is, it's so intense. 118 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, And I had to keep reminding myself 119 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, this is a TV show. 120 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: They're producing a television show, so there has to be 121 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: that leve ful of drama and excitement and pressure, which 122 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: is why the stakes are so high on Next Level Chef. 123 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: But it truly was one of the most intensive I've 124 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: ever done, and I tell people all the time that 125 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: it's fifty percent of mind game. Sure, you have to 126 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: know how to cook, and you have to be a 127 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: good chef, but at the end of the day, you 128 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: also have to play the mental game of not psyching 129 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: yourself out or I think a lot of the people 130 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: that went home early on in my season they checked 131 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: out in their brain first, and I started to notice that. 132 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's the people that are losing confidence 133 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: or who are doubting themselves or comparing themselves, and it's 134 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: getting to them to the point that they end up 135 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: getting eliminated. So it's such a crazy thing. 136 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, but you are not a stranger to intense 137 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: competition because you did pageants, right, Yes, I mean, how 138 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: are the situation similar in. 139 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: A lot of ways. I mean a lot of what 140 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: I did growing up, My extracurriculars were competitive by nature. 141 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: I grew up as a dancer, and so my company 142 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: competed across the country and across the state, and I 143 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: was I just grew up used to either being on 144 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: stage or being in front of judges and having my 145 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: performance being critiqued or just and the award or level 146 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: of placement was determined by that. And so from a 147 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: young age, especially before I knew who I was, before 148 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: I was really solid in my identity and who you know, 149 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: who I was in Jesus, it was hard for me 150 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: to just know what to do with that. When you 151 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: know you're trying your best, you've trained, you've put in hours, 152 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: and you want to do well, and then maybe you 153 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: get a placement that was lower than what you wanted, 154 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: or you didn't place at all. Like those things were 155 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: really hard for me, and then it's it's only natural 156 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: to look at the girl next to you or the 157 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: world the girl who did place higher, and say, well, 158 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: I guess I'm not as good as that, or I 159 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: guess I must not have been as pretty or smart 160 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: or eloquent or you know, well spoken, and those things 161 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: don't also always necessarily mean that, but it's hard to 162 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: not equate it to that in the moment. So it 163 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: took me years of going through not only the competitions, 164 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: but just the mental work and the heart work of 165 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: understanding that at the end of the day. And I 166 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: didn't figure this out until like the end of my 167 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: journey competing and when I stopped. But at the end 168 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: of the day, if all of that was stripped away, 169 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: whether or not I win, whether or not I don't 170 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: place it all. Nothing I do or don't do, or 171 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: achieve or don't achieve changes the fact that I'm a 172 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: human creative with purpose and that I have value that 173 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: is given to me through Christ and that cannot take 174 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: that away. Nothing can. And when I realized that, it 175 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: unlocked something within me that then moving forward, when I 176 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: would compete, like let's say what's on next, old chef. Yes, 177 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: it was scared, but I still I had that confidence 178 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: of like, Okay, if I do get eliminated today, I'm 179 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: going to be okay because God still loves me and 180 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: I still have value and I'm scared out of my mind, 181 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: but it's gonna be okay. 182 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: I love that. That's a good word. So is that 183 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: what you say to yourself in your head? Like you're 184 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: at next level chef, you want to freak out? What 185 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: are you saying to yourself? God still loves me. I 186 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: have value, like do you have any? 187 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: I so many things, so many things. I feel like 188 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: I was in prayer the whole time I was there. 189 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: I was just constant conversation with the Lord because every 190 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 2: moment I felt like I didn't know what to do 191 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: and maybe I'm not giving myself enough credit, like I 192 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: really it built my confidence in so many ways, and 193 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: I really did my best. I feel like it was 194 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: just stretched beyond what I thought I was capable of, 195 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: and my capacity grew in that season, but I still, 196 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: I think internally was freaking out, like it just internally 197 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: screaming the whole time. And so I would say, like, 198 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: Holy Spirit, highlight what I'm supposed to grab on the 199 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: platform and tell me what to do because I'm so 200 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: out of my element right now, and my hands were 201 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: doing things that I've never done before. I don't know 202 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: how I was pulling off some of these dishes, but 203 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: I just kept repeating, like God, I trust you, God, 204 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: I trust you. Jesus helped me, like every just little 205 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: breath prayers throughout the day, I truly think is what 206 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: sustained me. 207 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Now I need to go watch I don't 208 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: know that I watched your season. 209 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: Season it's season three. It's really great. 210 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: How far did you make it? 211 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: I made the top seven, which is way harder than 212 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: I thought. My goal was to make it through the 213 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: first episode, and then once I made it one, my 214 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: goal was top ten. So the fact that I made 215 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: it three episodes past top ten, it feels like a 216 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: huge accomplishment to me. 217 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. I can't wait to check it out. Well, man, 218 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not that old Nicole, but I got 219 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: a solid grip on this identity thing, which is super impressive. 220 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: Thank you your new mom. Did that add any new 221 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: layers to the tendency to compare yourself to others or 222 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: the identity? Yeah? 223 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely still struggle with that in different ways. 224 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: Now that I'm a first time mom, I think, well, 225 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody can relate to this, but 226 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: one thing I've always struggled with. Sometimes it's not so 227 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: much comparing myself to other people, but comparing myself to 228 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: my past self. It's like I'm comparing maybe on a 229 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: load day or a medium day, I'm comparing myself to 230 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: my peak. And because I have done so many I mean, 231 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: this is all relatives, so I don't even want to say, 232 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: like so many big things or so many cool things. 233 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: Because I've achieved so many, like outwardly big things in 234 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: my young adult life. It's really hard for me in 235 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: my thirties now to look back and not believe the 236 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: lie that I've peaked and that that's the best or 237 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: coolest that God's gonna do in my life, and that 238 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: it's kind of over, like I'm just washed up goods. 239 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: I don't believe that, But I would be lying if 240 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: I said that voice doesn't come in my head a lot. 241 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: And I have to be careful to not compare myself 242 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: to seasons that I'm not in, because I can just 243 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: as easily look back and see God's faithfulness and hand 244 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: in my life over the last fifteen years, and all 245 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: of those things are stepping stones. Like at the time 246 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: when I was twenty two and had just stepped off 247 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: the Miss America stage. I thought that was it. I 248 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: was like, I've peaked twenty two. That's the coolest thing 249 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: I'll ever do. That's the biggest thing. That's the biggest 250 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: way God's ever going to use me. Never even had 251 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: it in my brain that I would be on Gordon 252 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: like Gordon Ramsey Cooking Show. And it's not even to 253 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: say that that's cooler, bigger, better, or that's even the point. 254 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: It's literally not the point. But I think sometimes I'm 255 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: quick to give up on myself and say, well, I 256 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: don't know what else it could be, and I compare 257 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: myself to that. So I definitely struggle in that area. 258 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: But certainly social media and being in social media for 259 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: my career doesn't help. How easy it can also be 260 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: to compare myself to other moms, whether their first time 261 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: moms or moms who have more kids than me. I 262 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: have to be really careful about that and keep my 263 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: heart in mind in check. 264 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so you're on there all the time, 265 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: You've got a very popular account. Tell us a little 266 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: bit about like what you're posting about. But then I 267 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: want to hear, so what do you do like, what's 268 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: your regular strategy. Are you taking a day off? Are 269 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: you what do you say to yourself? 270 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely have more boundaries than I used to 271 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: to protect my piece and to protect my energy because 272 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: it can get out of hand really quickly, and I 273 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: try to take at least one day off, if not more. 274 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: I prioritize rest a lot differently now than I used to, 275 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: because my capacity is a lot smaller with so many 276 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: extra responsibilities. Now as a wife and a mother, it 277 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: looks so different than it did when I was single. 278 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: And that change in my life happened very quickly, and 279 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: so I say this all the time, but I feel 280 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: like I'm recovering from the whiplash of how suddenly my 281 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: life pivoted. And it's all good things. I just was 282 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: so used to my pace and my stride as a single, 283 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: you know, self employed girl on Instagram and social media 284 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: doing all that to like, now I'm married. Now, now 285 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: I'm a mom and I have to slow down. That 286 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: was hard for me. But I started in the travels 287 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: food space and I've always faith has always been kind 288 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: of the foundation and pillar of what's behind my content. 289 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: But now I post a variety of lifestyle things. I 290 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: still do recipes on my page. I do a lot 291 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: of motherhood stuff. I do a lot of family stuff. 292 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: And so I tried to be led by the Holy 293 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: Spirit and truly just ask God, like, what do you 294 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: want me to do today? What do you want me 295 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: to create? Because at the end of the day, I 296 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: am here because of you, and I want to steward 297 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: this well and I need that divine wisdom or else 298 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 2: to me. I don't I want to just keep adding 299 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: to the noise. You know. I wanted to have meaning 300 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: and I wanted to have significance. 301 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, that's so important. And I 302 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying too. You know, I remember my 303 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: transition to motherhood. It was like, oh, the most important 304 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: thing I'm going to do today is change eight diapers 305 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: or phil a sippy cup. Like really, like this is 306 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: where it ends. And I can say now as a 307 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: mom of much older kids, it's like, oh, no, that's 308 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: not where it ends at all. Right, that's just the beginning. 309 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: But it is such an important season, and I think 310 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: it's just vital to have that kind of perspective like wow, 311 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: like okay, this might not feel as exciting but I'm 312 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: really investing something here and it's more important than any 313 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: of those other things I've ever done. 314 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: Arguably, one of my mentors just said something that really 315 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: encouraged me in a very specific context, but I think 316 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: it can be applied to a lot of situations in life. 317 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: Is like to always look at it from an internal 318 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: perspective and when you think about what this looks like 319 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: for eternity, the eternal deposits that you're making when you 320 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: know you choose to be selfless and you know, serve 321 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: your husband first, or serve your kids first, or serve 322 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: your friends first, Like those things are going to matter 323 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: in the end. And that helps me in moments where 324 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: it can be easy to give into my flesh or 325 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: be like, well I just want it this way or 326 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: this feels good in the moment, that I think is 327 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: helping me have a better perspective about those things too. 328 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good word. The Miss America pageant 329 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,359 Speaker 1: or the whole pageant world. Did you watch the documentary 330 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: that came out? It had it come out last year? 331 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: The Miss America documentary? 332 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: Oh I don't think I did. 333 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Huh as always right? To make it interesting, it had 334 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: to expose things or whatever behind the organization. I'm not 335 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: really interested in that. But you know, the pageant world 336 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: is to some degree, I know it's tried to change 337 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: over the years to some degree about how you look 338 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: and the pressure on women girls even in the pageant 339 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: world around that it is so intense, Like what did 340 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: you see around you? And I mean, did you feel 341 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: like you were able to shine light there? 342 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, And that's one thing I love about the 343 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: Miss America organization. Obviously, I only have my experience, and 344 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: I know every girl has a different experience who goes 345 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: through the program, And I just want to note that 346 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: it's so different based on where you are in the region. 347 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: Like the pageant world in Washington, where I grew up 348 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: is very different than the pageant world in Texas, and 349 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: is very different than the pageant world in Tennessee or Alabama. 350 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: So I honestly, I think if I grew up in 351 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: the South, I would have not competed. 352 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm too scared. That's fair. 353 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: The wombdom pagets. 354 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: In full makeup, yes, and that just. 355 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: Wasn't my experience, and I'm grateful for that. I was 356 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: always involved with organizations before I did Miss America that 357 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: focused on building confidence in young girls and developing life 358 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: skills that were going to help you get a job 359 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: one day. Learning how to interview, learning how to introduce 360 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: yourself and speak in public, and you know, how to 361 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: have table etiquette, those kinds of things which I think 362 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: are very helpful. And some you know, people will grow 363 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: up in a family where you don't get taught those things. 364 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: I think that is so vital. And so that's why 365 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: my parents allowed my sister and I to compete. And 366 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: then the Miss America organization was kind of an extension 367 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: of that, with the main goal being to give young 368 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: women scholarships to go to college. And so one of 369 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: my main reasons for competing is because I wanted to 370 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: go to Chapman University and it's expensive, but the scholarship 371 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: money I could receive through competing and not even winning, 372 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: but just you know, placing help pay for my college. 373 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: I received sixty thousand dollars through my ten years of 374 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: competing that allowed me to graduate college debt free. So 375 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: for that, I am forever grateful. And I think, although 376 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: you're going to hear the horror stories, and yes, there 377 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: are these stereotypes when it comes to pageants. I tried 378 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: to keep my blinders on and remember why it was 379 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: there and focus on those life skills that I was building. 380 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: So the times that I didn't walk away with the crown, 381 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: I would always ask myself, Okay, but what else did 382 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: I win? I won more public speaking skills, I made 383 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: so many new friends, I got a little bit of 384 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: scholarship money, and I nailed my interview or whatever it was, 385 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. I always tried to think about 386 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: those things because now that I'm out of it and 387 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: I'm an adult, and I look back at the opportunities 388 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: I've had because of you know, connections I made or 389 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: relationships I have in that world and the jobs it 390 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: brought me or whatever it is it was. Again, it's 391 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 2: all stepping stones. They were all things that were laying 392 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: a foundation to help me get to where I am 393 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: now and almost serve as a launching pad. So I 394 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: don't know if I answered your question. I feel like 395 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: I kind of went down a rabbit trail right there. 396 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: But for me, it was a very positive experience and 397 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: that outweighed the negative. 398 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, and I can just hear and 399 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: every answer you give just a tremendous amount of gratitude, 400 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: Like you really have a heart of gratitude, Nicole. Do 401 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: you know where they came from? I mean other than 402 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: the Lord? 403 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, really, I mean I think it's just the years 404 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: of Man. I feel like I have so many random 405 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: life experiences, high ones, low ones, everything in between, and 406 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: I always come back to this concept and idea and 407 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: truth really that I don't deserve any of it. All 408 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: of it's a blessing I as a human who was 409 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: born into sin, like, I don't deserve what I'm getting 410 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 2: in eternity. I don't deserve that. And so there's reason 411 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 2: to be grateful for literally everything. And we all know 412 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 2: that gratitude cannot exist at the same time as complaining. 413 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: And when I struggle with complaining, I have to go 414 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: back to, Okay, well what am I grateful for? And 415 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: that might seem silly, but it helps and it works, 416 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: and I just try every day to not fall into 417 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: that trap of grumbling and complaining, to just be joyful 418 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: and be gracious and be thankful. 419 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: I love it. That's amazing. You are wise man your years. 420 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's I think if you can master that 421 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: right life. 422 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not easy. I'm not perfect that I don't 423 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: want to come across the I'm just break all the time. 424 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm not. I definitely catch myself daily being like hmm, 425 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: there I was complaining again. 426 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: It's catching yourself that's important. Yeah's absolutely. Oh that's awesome. 427 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it well. So we share 428 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: was kind enough to sponsor these episodes, and you know 429 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: their goal is really to promote health, mind, body, and soul. Yes, Like, 430 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: what would you say your like best health tip is mind, body, 431 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: and soul. 432 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a great question for me. I have seen 433 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: a lot of success in my health holistically when I 434 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: have consistency in my life And that doesn't mean being 435 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: a slave to routine or you know, being so rigid 436 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: that there's no flexibility or joy. But I will say 437 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: when I established a morning routine that worked for me, 438 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: or or or night routine, like just some type of 439 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: structure to my life helped me feel more motivated, helped 440 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: me feel better about myself, helped me be more productive. 441 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: And again, once you established the structure, it can then 442 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: it can evolve, it can work, it can even change 443 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: in seasons, Like my routine now looks very different than 444 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: it did a year ago, but having some kind of 445 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: structure that helped me because I knew what to expect 446 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 2: and my body just kind of got in the rhythm 447 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: of almost like muscle memory of like Okay, what are 448 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 2: we doing today? And it changed the game for me. 449 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: So I think that can be applied to a lot 450 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: of different things in your life, whether that comes to 451 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: like your diet or your exercise habits, or even just 452 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: like having a good sleep routine, getting enough sleep, drinking 453 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: enough water, whatever it is. Having structure helped. 454 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: Me a lot. Yeah, yeah, that's really good, really good. 455 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: How about spiritually, what helps you thrive? 456 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: I think a little more kind of what this is same. 457 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: I was just talking about being consistent, having time every 458 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: day that I plan to spend with the Lord, and 459 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: for me, that works best when it is like a 460 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: specific time of day. Otherwise it doesn't happen. I've tried, like, oh, 461 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: I didn't you know to do it at this time 462 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: of day, but I'll do it later and then it 463 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: normally doesn't happen. I'm not saying that like I hit 464 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 2: that every day, but for me to have it planned 465 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 2: helps me to succeed. And so I just got in 466 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: a habit of reading my Bible every day, trying to 467 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: be inconsistent prayer throughout the day, whether it's folding laundry 468 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: or unloading the dishwasher or running to target, like talking 469 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: to God and bringing him into those moments and doing 470 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: life with him. That it's that concept of abiding and 471 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: staying connected to the source made it less intimidating. Because 472 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: I'm a first time mom. My daughter just turned one. 473 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: I don't have time to sit, you know, in my 474 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: comfy chair drinking coffee, reading the Word for an hour 475 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: in journaling. 476 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: I wish I did I miss those days. If you're single, 477 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 3: or if you are in a season of life, for 478 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: that as possible for you, soak that up anything, But 479 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: my reality is. 480 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: Not that right now, and so I do it when 481 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: I can, and I do it when she's around because 482 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: I want her to see that. I want my daughter 483 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: to remembering like, oh yeah, my mom had her Bible 484 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: open on the kitchen counter, like we were reading as 485 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: we were making breakfast, we were praying as we were 486 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: walking to the park, Like I want that to be 487 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: part just ingrained in who she is, that she can 488 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: talk to God wherever. 489 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that well Christmas is like 490 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: just right around the corner. What is Nicole the Nomad 491 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: going to be treating us too during a Christmas season? 492 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: Oh, some yummy holiday treats. This is a baking season 493 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: for me. I love baking in general, but during the 494 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: holidays it just feels extra magical. So hopefully some yummy 495 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: holiday recipes. Actually this weekend, I have five new holiday recipes, 496 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: desserts that you can make in under ten minutes, and 497 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: so people that are non bakers or don't love the oven, 498 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: these don't need to go in the oven, and they're 499 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: going to be fun and easy. But yeah, this time 500 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: of year two, I try to just scale back and 501 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: slow down because my year is just already so busy 502 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: and I want to rest well and well so that 503 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: I can start well in the new year. 504 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: That's a good word, Nicole. Tell everyone where they can 505 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: follow you. 506 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I'm Cold and Nomad on pretty much every platform. 507 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: So whatever you're on, Instagram, TikTok you to. But I'm 508 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: also on Snapchat, Pinterest, Facebook. If you type into Cold 509 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: and Nomad or just google the Cold the Nomad, my 510 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: website will pop up, or you can find all my 511 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: recipes and travel guides, but hopefully fingers crossed a cookbook 512 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 2: in the future. I post daily and weekly on all 513 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: the platforms, so I'd love to connect. 514 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: Awesome on the call. Thanks so much for being on 515 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: the show today. 516 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: Oh thank you for having me. 517 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: This is lovely and thank you for watching your listening. 518 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: I hope something today has helped you stop comparing and 519 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: start living. 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