1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: stop sending your kids to college. 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The Charlie Kirk Show 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 21 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: my family, friends and viewers. 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. I wanted 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: to bring on Michelle Tandler. She had a tweet that 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: when extraordinarily viral about mom Donnie's new tenant director in 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: New York City. She is now the head. Her name 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: is Cea Weaver and she is boy is she a peach? Blake, 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: she is an absolute peach. And to help us unpack 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: just what a peach she is, wanted to bring in 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: Michelle Tandler. She has her website is Notes from the 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: Front dot com. She is based in New York City. 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: She's fighting the good fight. Michelle, welcome to the show. 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: Hi, thank you for having me. 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely very good to have you. Your tweet was illuminative, 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: It was illuminating, and it was crazy because she scribbed 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: her social media accounts in her crazy tweets. But you 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: grabbed these and screenshotted them and made sure the world 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: still had access to them. And Blake, why don't you 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: just set the table for why this is important because 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: there's two real competing visions, right, yeah. 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, So we want to talk about this. Obviously, it's 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 5: especially big news yesterday. So yesterday President Trump announces he's 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 5: going to take steps to stop very large institutional investors. 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 5: Black Rock is the meme one. But there's others from 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 5: owning single family homes, and this was a hobby horse 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 5: of Charlie's. He talked about the need. You need ownership, 47 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 5: You need people to own a stake in society. So 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 5: we talked a lot about young families owning homes getting 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 5: access to those things. Now, housing affordability is also a 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 5: topic on the left. Both sides talk about it, and 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 5: Charlie would talk about that choice Mam Donnism versus maga. 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 5: And so I think President Trump's actions are hopefully, you know, 53 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 5: the Maga version of this, but we are seeing Mam 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 5: Donnie is sort of the avatar for what the left 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 5: is considering to do on housing. And he has this 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 5: new advocate for tenants or whatever. Her office is, Sea Weaver, 57 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 5: and she has some very radical takes of her own 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 5: that I think are a good insight into. 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: What Oh it's an insight peering into the leftist mind 60 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: in very scary way. 61 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 5: So, Michelle, why don't you just take this away from us? 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 5: What you logged a bunch of her statements. You were 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 5: very clever. You logged all the things she'd said before 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 5: they got any attention, before they could get deleted. 65 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: What were you able to find. 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I wish I had captured more. I took these 67 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 6: back in September, actually, when she first was sort of 68 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 6: I first came across her her as a person, her 69 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 6: Twitter account and just saw a lot of stuff that 70 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 6: was pretty concerning. 71 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: So I took some screenshots back in September. 72 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 6: I was planning to write a thread on her views 73 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 6: on housing, since she was the housing advisor for his campaign, 74 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 6: which I thought was pretty relevant. Housing in New York 75 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 6: City is one of the most important topics politically. We 76 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 6: have a huge housing shortage. I believe the vacancy rate 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 6: is something like one point four percent. The cost of 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 6: housing is astronomical here, and I have for a long 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 6: time believed that the reason the cost of housing is 80 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 6: so high here is because of progressive housing policies, things 81 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 6: like rent control, rent stabilization, zoning restrictions, a lot of 82 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 6: bureaucracy and red tape on building. It's not a very 83 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 6: developer friendly city. I don't have enough knowledge to be 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 6: able to speak to how friendly it is towards landlords, 85 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 6: but I can certainly say see a Weaver does. 86 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: Not seem friendly towards landlords. 87 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 6: She seems to have a very very defined view of 88 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 6: landlords as being evil, which I just think is short 89 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 6: sighted and wrong. 90 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: You know, I don't. 91 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 6: These housing units don't just like fall from the sky, 92 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 6: pre fab pre made for people to inhabit like. It 93 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 6: takes a lot of people to create a housing unit 94 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 6: and a lot of people to keep a housing unit operating. 95 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: And a lot of her beliefs are pretty destructive in 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 6: my opinion. So I screenshot a bunch of her stuff also, 97 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 6: just some of her other views that were pretty offensive. 98 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 6: She has a lot of really offensive things to say 99 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 6: about people of different racial categories, et cetera, and they 100 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 6: just Yeah, when she was announced in an abosition of power, 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 6: I shared it. 102 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: I've got one of them here, impoverish the white middle class. 103 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: She said that in twenty eighteen. 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: That was just like a definitive statement, like impoverish. 105 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 5: Them, impoverish the white middle class. Home ownership is racist 106 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 5: slash failed public policy. 107 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, she hates gentrification too. I mean, what's so give 108 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: us read one of one of the one of your 109 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: favorites here, Michelle. 110 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know we can just start that one's perfect. 111 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 6: That's the one I started my thread with. There is 112 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 6: no such thing as a good gentrifier. Only people who 113 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 6: are actively working on projects to dismantle white supremacy and capitalism, 114 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 6: and people who aren't. 115 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: I found that fascinating. 116 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 6: First of all, she lives in a gentrifying neighborhood, and 117 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 6: for people who aren't. From word gentrifying, it usually refers 118 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 6: to people who move into neighborhoods that are historically poorer 119 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 6: or more filled with people of color. So it's, you know, 120 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 6: a term that yous used to describe whiter, richer people 121 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 6: moving into those neighborhoods. I mean, from what I understand, 122 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 6: Sea Weaver lives in Crown Heights, which is historically a 123 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 6: working class, mostly Jewish and black neighborhood in Brooklyn. 124 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so she lives there. 125 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 6: I think she's written that going to the suburbs is wrong, 126 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 6: moving into the city is wrong, she seems to believe. 127 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 6: I'd be curious to note her views on what kind 128 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 6: of housing is okay in her mind. I guess public housing. 129 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 6: She has a lot written about how she wants all 130 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 6: of us to live in public housing. 131 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: I can share some of those. She says, you. 132 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 6: Know, public housing for everyone, rent control and public housing 133 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 6: for everyone, Massive government interventions to solve gentrification. Yeah, she 134 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 6: is again the private market. 135 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a This is one from twenty seventeen, 136 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: so I'll make sure the team has it here. This 137 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: is a really amazing one that you've pulled. This country 138 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: built wealth for white people through genocide, slavery, stolen land 139 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: and labor. Labor, white supremacy built the North and the South. 140 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: So deep thoughts from se A Weaver, who we also 141 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: found out is her mom lives in a one point 142 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: four million dollar craftsman and the Daily Mail apparently tried 143 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: to confront her about this partly because of your tweet 144 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: going so viral. Michelle, I think you really helped shine 145 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 3: a light on Sea Weaver and some of the crazy things. 146 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: And she burst into tears and ran away, and there's 147 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: all these these images of her. I think, I think 148 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: she's never really had the spot spotlight put on her, 149 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: and yet mom Donnie is standing by her in this 150 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: newly revitalized office for I guess tenant rights. What new 151 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: powers have? Yeah? What what new powers has he bestowed 152 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: upon this office? You say it's revitalized, what what? What 153 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: is she actually in charge of? What power does she have? 154 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: Unclear? 155 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 6: I think that's actually going to be the most interesting 156 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 6: thing to be looking at over the next couple of 157 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 6: years is how much power does the New York City 158 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 6: Mayor's office have. 159 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: There's a lot of unknown there about checks and balances. 160 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: From what I. 161 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 6: Can tell, I think she'll be focused on the topics 162 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 6: that she's been writing about a lot, so hearing organizing 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 6: tenants basically, and you know, if you look, I don't 164 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 6: know if you have the clips up of her videos, 165 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 6: but she's pretty explicit. 166 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: She basically says, I don't know. 167 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 6: If you're able to get to it now, but she 168 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 6: basically says, what we want to do is have we 169 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 6: want to drive. 170 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: Down the value of housing. 171 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 6: So we want to have lawsuits against the landlords. We 172 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 6: want to have organizing, we want to have complaints, we 173 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 6: want to have rent control like that. 174 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: She has sort of a list. 175 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 6: Of weapons we'd say, we've got to bring down the 176 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 6: value of real estate. 177 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is this echoes something that Mamdannie said 178 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: in his when he was sworn into office, where he 179 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: says we're going to get rid of rugged individualism and 180 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: we're going to replace it with collectivism three fourteen. This 181 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: is her take on it. 182 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 7: I think the reality is is that for centuries we've 183 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 7: really treated property as an individualized good and not a 184 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 7: collective good, and we are going to and transitioning to 185 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 7: treating it as a collective good and towards a model 186 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 7: of shared equity will require that we think about it differently, 187 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 7: and it will mean that families, especially white families, but 188 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 7: some POC families who are homeowners as well, are going 189 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 7: to have a different relationship to property than the one 190 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 7: that we currently have. 191 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: So she's going to seize property from white families. 192 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 6: The part that I found so fascinating about that clip 193 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 6: is it starts with for centuries, for many centuries. 194 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 4: It's like, yes, for many centuries we've had private property. 195 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 3: Like actually, yeah, like. 196 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: That's what our modern world is based on. 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You have 224 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: a website that is Notes from the Front because you're 225 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 3: fighting the good fight in a very blue, very dystopian 226 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: new world with mom Donnie as your as your mayor, 227 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: and you've got absolute communists that are now appointed to 228 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: really powerful positions. We're sort of trying to figure out 229 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: how powerful Sea Weaver is going to be. Let's play 230 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: one more clip from this this peach of a of 231 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: a of a lady. Uh, just an awful, awful way 232 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: of looking at the world. Three sixteen. 233 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 8: People like home ownership but has say, like control, and 234 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 8: that's been perverted by like deep racism and deep classism 235 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 8: in our society. 236 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 7: So like we have to not have a existing class 237 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 7: of society and so that's something we need to think 238 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 7: about like deeply. 239 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: But you know. 240 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 8: We it's about to me, it's about control. And why 241 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 8: rent control is really important is because rent control alters 242 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 8: the dynamic, the power dynamic between renters and who owns 243 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 8: the building. 244 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: So it's all about control. Apparently people like having. 245 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 5: Well, so what it is here is this is clearly 246 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 5: a woman with a giant just a giant ball of resentment. 247 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 5: That that is that's really what motivates her. I mean 248 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: some of the stuff I don't even think we've gotten 249 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 5: a chance to read it yet, But she has stuff 250 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 5: where she's like, oh, I wish, oh yeah, really needing 251 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: to repress the desire for revenge right now, I wish 252 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 5: I believed in God so I could believe that all 253 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: men who take credit for women's work, and all white 254 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 5: men who take credit for the work of women of color, 255 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 5: would one day burn Like that is not an emotionally 256 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 5: well calibrated individual. 257 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: She's a She's a ball of resentment. 258 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 5: She grew up in a completely normal family, in a 259 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 5: relatively nice neighborhood. She's had a huge amount of opportunity. 260 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 5: She has an incredibly comfortable life offered to her by 261 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: the bounty of civilization and let's be frank, the bounty 262 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 5: of free markets. Because if she was stuck in an 263 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: actual legit communist country, she'd be hosed. 264 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: Her life would be terrible, and. 265 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 5: Delta should kick all white people and Christmas outfits off planes. 266 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 5: She's spent years posting depressive resentment against her neighborhood, her community, 267 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 5: people who are white like herself, implicitly against her parents, 268 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 5: whatever she may feel about them, and she's now manifesting 269 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 5: all of her personal resentments as a political platform. 270 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: And that's actually a lot of the modern. 271 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 5: Left is it's taking personal gripes and grievances and justifying 272 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 5: them on the grounds of actually, I have a revolutionary 273 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: political platform. 274 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: That's how it functions here. 275 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: Uh, Michelle, I totally agree, by the way, And there's 276 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: a whole spiritual dynamic. I think that tweet you pulled 277 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: is like very telling because the left oftentimes tries to 278 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: replace God with some sort of you know, mission here 279 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: on earth that to fill the gaping void in their hearts. 280 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: But Michelle on the ground in New York, what is 281 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: it like? I mean, are people talking about this this 282 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: person a lot? Is she is her profile raising because 283 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: of how extreme some of her views are. 284 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, And by the way, I completely agree there's a 285 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 6: spiritual element. We don't know what's in her heart or mind, 286 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 6: but it's certainly I don't I've never met someone who 287 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 6: has like a deep sense of peace writing that they 288 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 6: want to see people burn. No, the yes, people are 289 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 6: talking about this. It went viral beyond. 290 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: What I could have ever expected. People are nervous and scared. 291 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't have many friends who are Mum 292 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 6: Donnie fans. 293 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: Most people. 294 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 6: People are scared for a number of reasons. People are 295 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 6: scared about what's going to happen in public safety. You know, 296 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 6: mum Donnie has a long track record of saying very 297 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 6: very negative things about the cops. I think people are 298 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 6: very nervous. We're going to see a huge walk out 299 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 6: and a lot of cops like retiring earlier, quitting, which 300 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 6: could impact public safety. People are nervous about just his 301 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 6: general lack of job experience. I don't think he really 302 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 6: worked for his first six years after college. He's had 303 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 6: like a bunch of different stints. But people are nervous 304 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 6: about its ability to run the complexity of the city, 305 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 6: things like sanitation, transportation. Obviously, landlords are nervous, Like what's 306 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 6: concerning is I think mayor mum Donnie agrees with Sia. 307 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 6: If you go to the last tweet in the thread, 308 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 6: it shows Mumdannie saying back in twenty twenty. People often 309 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 6: ask what socialists mean when we say we want to 310 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 6: decommodify housing. Basically, we want to move away from a 311 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 6: situation where most people access housing by purchasing it on 312 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 6: the market and toward a situation where the state guarantees. 313 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 4: High quality housing to all. 314 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 6: So, you know, people are wondering, why isn't he firing 315 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 6: her after all these tweets have come out. I think 316 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 6: the reason is because he agrees, I mean she that 317 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 6: was I think how I originally came across her, I 318 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 6: don't know. 319 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: I saw that she was retweeting this. 320 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 6: But anyway, so this is this is a belief system. 321 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 6: It's anti I would say it's anti American. It's definitely 322 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 6: anti the constitution to say we want, you know, the 323 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 6: state to manage housing for everybody. I don't think anybody 324 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 6: wants to live in state owned housing. And for that, 325 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 6: there are actually a lot of people who do live 326 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 6: in state managed housing. Here in New York City, we 327 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 6: have I think one hundred and seventy eight thousand units 328 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 6: of NISCHA and New York City Housing Authority. They have 329 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 6: a reputation for being in horrible disrepair. There are tens 330 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 6: of billions of dollars of unfixed. 331 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: Repairs at stake right now. 332 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 6: I would love to see the mayor and see a 333 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 6: focus on Nitscha. In fact, I actually think Sia should 334 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 6: move over to NIGHTSCHA. I don't think she should be 335 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 6: living in a free market unit. If she's against the 336 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: free market, I think she should show solidarity with her 337 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 6: constituents and move into a public housing unit. 338 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 4: She'd have ability if she did. 339 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 3: You should tweet that and I will retweet it. But 340 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: that I mean absolutely, And I think that the fact 341 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: that there already is this sort of socialist government run housing, 342 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: you know, vertical within the New York City government, and 343 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: it's being run poorly. It sounds like notoriously bad, shows 344 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: that this is going to end in a very bad position. 345 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: Michelle Tandler, thank you for capturing these tweets. Thank you 346 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: for joining us. I think this is just a fascinating 347 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: insight into a really radical person that represents I think 348 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: Blake's right, sort of a larger swath of the left 349 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: than we really care to believe. But I think it's true. 350 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: There's a lot of these crazies out there, and now 351 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: they're getting into positions of power, which is terrifying. Michelle, 352 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: thank you for joining us, Thank. 353 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 4: You for having me. 354 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 9: This is Lane Schomberger, chief investment officer and founding partner 355 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 9: of y REFI. It has been an honor and a 356 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 9: privileged to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to 357 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 9: endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us, and 358 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 9: we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point 359 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 9: for years to come. 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That is 377 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: y r e f y dot com Private student loan 378 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: debt relief, y rec com. 379 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: We are monitoring the press conference with Vice President Jade 380 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: Vance and Caroline Levitt. It is ongoing right now. They're 381 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: talking about the Minnesota stories ice all of those good things. 382 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: But right now in studio we have doctor Kent Ingle 383 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 3: who has a book out that came out in October, 384 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 3: College Without Communism. You can see it right here. Let 385 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 3: me move it over and if you can't, probably see 386 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: it on your screen. But right up here it's actually 387 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: got an endorsement from Charlie. He sent it in on 388 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: September eighth, his endorsement, which is two days obviously before 389 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: September tenth, when we lost him. So that says something 390 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: right there. He says about the book, college education has 391 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: become rotten to its core, but it doesn't have to be. 392 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 3: Higher education began as a Christian endeavor, and in College 393 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 3: without Communism, doctor Kent Ingle and Joshua Lisek explain how 394 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: we can undo the damage and restore college as it 395 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: is meant to. And so doctor Engele, welcome to the 396 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: Charlie kirkshow. 397 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. 398 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 10: What a privilege to be here, So thank you for 399 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 10: your kind invitation. 400 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: You are a pleasure to have you. You are the president 401 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: of Southeastern University based out of Lakeland, Florida. You got 402 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: thirteen thousand students on that campus alone. 403 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 10: Not that campus, about four thousand students. 404 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 3: Okay, but yeah, but you have satellite campuses and you 405 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: have one right here in Phoenix as well. So tell 406 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 3: us about this book. I mean you obviously know something 407 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: about this. You're creating a network of universities and college 408 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 3: campuses that partner with local churches often that doesn't have 409 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: communism in it, which is has become a radical idea. 410 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 10: Absolutely, yeah, tell us. Yeah, Well, first of all, as 411 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 10: a president who is on the front lines of having 412 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 10: the privilege to invest in a generation that we believe 413 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 10: God is raising up to make a difference in this world, 414 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 10: come alongside their life. The original intent of higher education 415 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 10: is focused on spiritual and moral development. When you get 416 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 10: the chance to be able to pursue truth and able 417 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 10: to pursue character development and shape virtuous leaders, all in 418 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 10: the purpose of helping these students discover their divine design, 419 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 10: the way God made them, the way God created them. 420 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 10: We're reminded in Ephesians two ten, you are a masterpiece 421 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 10: created in Christ Jesus to do good things which He 422 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 10: prepared long ago, well, how long ago? We know in 423 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 10: Psalm one thirty nine, before you took your first breath, 424 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 10: God was creating you and making you in your mother's womb, 425 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 10: and you would be able to go on. And we 426 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 10: tell every student that comes our way, you're a solution 427 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 10: to an issue, to a challenge, to a people group 428 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 10: in this world, and we get the privilege to pour 429 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 10: education into your life so that you can be a 430 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 10: good steward of that. But what's sad is we see 431 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 10: so many universities and colleges, and of course as of late, 432 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 10: we see that in a lot of the Ivy League colleges, 433 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 10: but that have drifted from this original understanding of how 434 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 10: education started. It was all about formation, all about discipleship, 435 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 10: all about the integration of truth, faith and learning. And 436 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 10: they have drifted. What they've done is they've traded truth 437 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 10: for ideology, and they've traded wisdom for indoctrination and for 438 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 10: freedom of thought to conformity. And so we need to 439 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 10: create a new framework that helps us to make sure 440 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 10: that we get education back on track doing the very 441 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 10: thing that we're supposed to do, provide stewardship for these 442 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 10: amazing students that God sends our way, and we're delighted 443 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 10: to do that. And not only do we get it 444 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 10: back to its original purpose, but here's the deal, we 445 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 10: also have to hit the three most important issues in 446 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 10: higher education today. How are we providing great access, how 447 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 10: are we providing affordability, and how are we providing experiential 448 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 10: educations that actually what they're learning in the classroom, they 449 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 10: actually get to do it right at the same time 450 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 10: and get out into the workforce and do things that 451 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 10: will make a difference on have an impact in their communities. 452 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people. One of Charlie's favorite things 453 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: to say was that the root word of education means 454 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 3: to lead forth, to bring about something which is potentially 455 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 3: present in that student. And so much of education has 456 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: turned into a conversation what do you feel, what do 457 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: you think you put in? Or to like figure out 458 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: what they already think I mean? And really you need 459 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: to have leadership leading students towards something that is defined, 460 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: that is clear. And I feel like so much of 461 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: modern education has become aimless, you know, secular rot, brain rot, 462 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: and you know, I was looking it up. So of 463 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: the ivs you mentioned at Harvard, Jale, Dartmouth, Congregationalist, Puritan. 464 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 3: They were started as institutions by those denominations. Princeton was Presbyterian, Congregationalist, 465 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: Brown Baptist, and Columbia Anglican. Pen and Cornell were non sectarian. 466 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very that's a very pen thing to y. 467 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but still deeply influenced by Protestant culture at the time. 468 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: Blake went to one of the ivys. So we won't 469 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: hold that again. Throw it up. So give us some 470 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 3: examples of how you say, you said college without communism, 471 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: how Christians can reclaim truth in higher education. Give us 472 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: some examples of how communism has infiltrated higher education that 473 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: maybe they're not aware of, maybe our audience would not 474 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: be aware of. 475 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, what they do is they beget. And I 476 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 10: see it so often. I've seen so many students from 477 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 10: our local church and from our community that have chosen 478 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 10: to go to a state college or to a private 479 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 10: college that doesn't focus on the foundational issues. And what 480 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 10: happens is they're told truth is relative, that faith is, 481 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 10: you know, not part of what we really believe shapes 482 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 10: our lives. They look at patriotism as naive and and 483 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 10: then they look at this whole idea that moral clarity 484 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 10: is fluid and it's all opinion, and that's what shaping 485 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 10: these students at these classes. In fact, what's crazy to 486 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 10: me is is the president of Harvard, President Garbage, just 487 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 10: came out just a few days ago and said we 488 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 10: were wrong. Yeah, we went too far. We should not 489 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 10: have allowed faculty activism in the classroom and for them 490 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 10: to be in to form political thought that was more 491 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 10: conformative rather than being able to reason together. And that's 492 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 10: what I loved about Charlie, and that's what we resonated. 493 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 10: And Charlie had the privilege to visit with Charlie on 494 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 10: our campus, our traditional campus there in Lakeland, about three 495 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 10: years ago, and we talked about these very issues. And 496 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 10: I love that he understood his divine design, He understood 497 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 10: what God called him to do to come alongside this 498 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 10: next generation, to help form them so they could live 499 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 10: out truth, they could live out what it means to 500 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 10: have a call of God upon their lives, to make 501 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 10: a difference in this world, and to get education that 502 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 10: would simply become stewardship for their life. And I love 503 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 10: how he chose the greatest place to do that, the 504 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 10: University why because that's the place where they are forming character, 505 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 10: they are pursuing truth. You have the ability to dialogue 506 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 10: and reason together and talk about thoughtful engagement that will 507 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 10: hopefully give you the tools that will connect you to truth. 508 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 10: And of course, true education is connecting to truth that 509 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 10: we understand is a person and that's Jesus Christ. Jesus said, 510 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 10: I'm the Way, the Truth and the life. And if 511 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 10: you abide in my word, and we know the word 512 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 10: is Christ because for John chapter one talks about the 513 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 10: Word became flesh lived among us, full of truth. And 514 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 10: so if we can connect students to truth and declare 515 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 10: that truth in their lives, they're going to be able 516 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 10: to live lives of purpose and lives that fulfilled destiny 517 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 10: that God has for them and to make a difference 518 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 10: in these communities. That's why we're also about going into 519 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 10: communities nationwide. We also know that students can't necessarily come 520 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 10: to our traditional campus, but why can't we go to 521 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 10: them and help shape their lives with truth and character development, 522 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 10: information and all the things that are important to be 523 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 10: a good steward of God's call upon your life. 524 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 5: About the traditional campus, so as college has spiraled out 525 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 5: in cost, and it's you know, you started to see 526 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 5: the backlash to it, more people not going or curtailing 527 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 5: it to save money. There have been people who have 528 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 5: said this is an anachronism that you can learn as 529 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 5: well online. 530 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: You can maybe learn using it. 531 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 5: You can self teach yourself a lot of things, and 532 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 5: that going to a campus in person, it's almost like 533 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 5: a luxury consumer good. All these campuses they just built 534 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 5: a bunch of fun stuff here. Check out our gym, 535 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 5: check out our theater, check out our big dorms, and 536 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 5: they just made it a big consumer good. You go there, 537 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 5: you party and have a fun time for four years. 538 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 5: And if you can afford that, great, but most a 539 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 5: lot of people can't, and there's going into debt for this. 540 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 5: What's the case to be made for an in person 541 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 5: traditional college campus shorn of those things, like what's the 542 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 5: value that does still provide ad in a true college? 543 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 10: Yeah? Well, first and foremost, I think a traditional campus 544 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 10: offers things that obviously other types of delivery models can't. 545 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 10: And I think an in person opportunity is to create community. 546 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 10: What's it like to live in community that can pursue 547 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 10: what higher education is all about? Together and there's something 548 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 10: about being face to face in a way where you 549 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 10: can reason with each other, dialogue with each other, learn 550 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 10: with each other. If it's done with that original commitment 551 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 10: of what higher education should be, that formation, and then 552 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 10: you have all aspects of life because it's about a 553 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 10: holistic development. It's about physical, mental, emotional, all those kinds 554 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 10: of things. Those things can happen on a residential, traditional 555 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 10: way if it's guided and it's committed to what the 556 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 10: original purpose is all about. So I think that's what 557 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 10: makes it unique. But again, we want to be able 558 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 10: to provide. Which is an important issue to hire it 559 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 10: today is accessibility, and I think that's why we have 560 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 10: seen the tremendous growth that we've had. When I first 561 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 10: came to Southeastern University almost fifteen years ago, the student 562 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 10: body is about two thousand. But we started to look 563 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 10: at what are the issues in higher ed and that 564 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 10: is accessibility. How are we are we first of all 565 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 10: offering the need oriented educational programs The workforce is calling 566 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 10: forth and we constantly are changing and updating that. And 567 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 10: then look at the accessibility of delivery. How are we 568 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 10: delivering education? There are the those that want that traditional experience. 569 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 10: There maybe they're athletes, they want that co curricular development 570 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 10: and the sports programs, things like that. And then but 571 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 10: you also want students to be able to have access 572 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 10: in other ways too, So how do you deliver that? 573 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 10: So we provide online learning, We go out into communities 574 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 10: and create campuses and communities and serve and we partner 575 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 10: with a lot of churches because churches are on the 576 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 10: front lines of shaping culture and we want to come 577 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,719 Speaker 10: alongside and provide educational So I think again, access to 578 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 10: education is important to students, and if we recognize that, 579 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 10: then we can also hit the affordability issue. And that's 580 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 10: the problem with and I love Charlie talking about all 581 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 10: the time about the scam of education. You know, you 582 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 10: look at first of all the drift from truth, but 583 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 10: then they saddle students with all this debt. How do 584 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 10: you go about providing a way that students can actually 585 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 10: graduate debt free. And that's what we've done with our 586 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 10: campuses across the nation. We actually can go into communities 587 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 10: like right here we have SEU Arizona. It's housed at 588 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 10: Dream City Church and it is a flourishing college there. 589 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 10: But we can cut the cost of that educational program 590 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 10: by two thirds. 591 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: Think about it, every single dollar you spend is either 592 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: supporting your values or working against them. In today's economy, 593 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 3: where you spend your money, it really matters, and that's 594 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: how we take back our country. Patriot Mobile is leading 595 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: the way as America's only Christian conservative wireless provider, and 596 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: you can switch today without sacrificing quality or service. 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That's Patriotmobile dot com slash Charlie. 616 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: Or call nine seven two Patriot and make the switch today. 617 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: You were just telling me a story about your visit, 618 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: uh Romania, Yeah, Romania, and tell us about how that 619 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: impacted the writing of this book. 620 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 10: Yeah. Well, yeah, this this book, I share the story 621 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 10: of why I'm so passionate about this issue. My wife 622 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 10: and I had the privilege in the early nineties to 623 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 10: write after Chaschscue government had fallen, so they were reeling 624 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 10: from the effects of the devastation of communism in the 625 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 10: nation of Romania. And we had the privilege to go 626 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 10: there to adopt three of our three children. And I 627 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 10: remember going there and I was just shocked at what 628 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 10: I saw. I saw a nation that was impoverished and 629 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 10: oppressed and spiritually bankrupt. And we went to all these 630 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 10: orphanages around the country and thousands upon thousands of children there, 631 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 10: and several of these orphanages. We would walk in room 632 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 10: after room and there would be thirty forty babies lying 633 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 10: on a cold floor, underfed, uncared for. And what was 634 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 10: wild is the eeriness of it being silent. You would 635 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 10: think with all of those babies, they'd be crying and 636 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 10: all that, and you would look and there would be 637 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 10: this distant stare, even at that infant, because there was 638 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 10: a lack of love and care. And I'll tell you 639 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 10: it's not because the parents who abandoned them didn't love them. 640 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 10: They couldn't afford them. Because of course, communism comes in 641 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 10: rooted in Marxism, and you add socialism comes in promising, 642 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 10: you know, opportunity and equality. But what happens is the 643 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 10: state takes control and you're left with control, and you're 644 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 10: left with an impovery state, stripped away from the very 645 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 10: freedom that allows you to flourish and have hope. And 646 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 10: we were able to We talk about this all the 647 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 10: time with our three children. You know, we have the 648 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 10: privilege to rescue them and bring them to America, and 649 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 10: our home became their home. And what a privilege it 650 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 10: has been to come alongside them and helping them to 651 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 10: fulfill what God design them to be. Yeah. 652 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: Well, and it sounds like you're children have gone on 653 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 3: to do pretty good things too. Yes, So we'll leave 654 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 3: that for another conversation. I did quit quickly here. We've 655 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: got two minutes left here. You say, in chapter three 656 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: you asked the question what happens when conservative students get 657 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 3: a liberal education? This is a massive question that Charlie confronted. 658 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 3: What do you explain in your book? 659 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, here's what happens. I've seen these students, these good, 660 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 10: strong conservative students that go to a place like this 661 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 10: and after just a short period of time, their faith, 662 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 10: they start questioning their faith, they start questioning their values 663 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 10: that you know, they were raised in their home. And 664 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 10: again it's because of this intentional design to lead them 665 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 10: off the path of truth, that truth is just a 666 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 10: relative thing, and that your faith is really outdated and 667 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 10: you should question that. And so they get this indoctrination 668 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 10: and it starts to lead them away and they want 669 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 10: to give up. When what we get to do at 670 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 10: a faith based university is quite the opposite of that. 671 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 10: We get to help them really get in tune with 672 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 10: truth and reality and character and morality and all the 673 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 10: things that are important to live a life. That will 674 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 10: give them joy, that will give them peace, that will 675 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 10: give them that sense that I am significant in what 676 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 10: God designed me to do and accomplish. And that's what's 677 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 10: so great. And I look at these universities that have 678 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 10: come in and this hasn't been by accident. They have 679 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 10: realized that the way you shape the world, the way 680 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 10: you shape a nation, is by starting in the classroom. 681 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 10: If you can shape the student, they will go out 682 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 10: and shape the culture. And that's why this issue is 683 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 10: so important that we make sure we're getting a hold 684 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 10: of these amazing students, letting them know that God has 685 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 10: a plan and a purpose for their life, and we 686 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 10: can provide that educational stewardship. 687 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 3: Well said doctor kent ingele College without Communism with an 688 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 3: endorsement from Charlie Kirk. It's an honor to have you here. 689 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: Thank you for coming me. God bless you. 690 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 9: For more on many of these stories and news you 691 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 9: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.