1 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of 2 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: hours of Dennis's lectures courses in classic radio programs had 3 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles. Go to Dennis Prager 4 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: dot com. 5 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: To be or not to be? That is the question? 6 00:00:50,239 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: Where was God? 7 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: Isn't God supposed to be good to love us? 8 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: Does God want us to supper? 9 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: Ten years? You're not Dennis yet? 10 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: Why did you go come here? 11 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: Who are you? 12 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: Bruce? 13 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: I'm God bingo yatzi? 14 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: Is that your final answer? 15 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 5: Our service has God bing ding ding ding ding ding 16 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 5: ding ding. 17 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: Well, it was nice to meet you guys. Thank you 18 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: for the Grand Canyon and good luck with the apocalypse. 19 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 6: Hi, everybody, this is Tennis Prager and this is the 20 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 6: Ultimate Issues Hour. Every week this hour is devoted to 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 6: some great issue of life. I hope we have gathered 22 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 6: them up into some CD or downloadable thing because it's 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 6: a real course in life, and whether you agree with 24 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 6: me or not on any given subject, it's truly secondary. 25 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 6: These are great issues, whatever whatever arena you come from. 26 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 6: I am going to discuss today political correctness. What is 27 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 6: it and why does it exist? The term is used 28 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 6: regularly and it is an extremely important subject. Hence it 29 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 6: qualifies for the Ultimate Issues Hour. So what is it? 30 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 6: Political correctness is? And I'm giving my own, my own 31 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 6: understanding of it. If you have a different one, you 32 00:02:18,079 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 6: are certainly welcome to offer it. But it is essentially 33 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 6: the inability to state certain things, certain truths. See that's 34 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 6: the key thing here, certain truths because they may offend 35 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 6: certain people or certain groups. Or there are two elements 36 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 6: to political correctness that it might be deemed offensive by 37 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 6: some members of some groups. And the other definition is 38 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 6: it might be painful for some people to recognize. There 39 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 6: are two separate categories. They may be related. One is hurtful, 40 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 6: the other is or offensive if you will, and the 41 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 6: other is just painful. And I will give you examples. 42 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 6: Please understand that political correctness must entirely be a matter 43 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 6: of truth that can't be said, lies that are offensive, 44 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 6: Lies that are painful, can't be said, not because they're offensive, 45 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 6: not because they're painful, but because they're lies. 46 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: All right. 47 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 6: That's the issue here, and that is instrumental to the 48 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 6: whole discussion. It's going to be a difficult hour to 49 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 6: do because by definition, I am going to offend certain sensibilities. 50 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 6: My intent let me say, at the outset is zero 51 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,559 Speaker 6: to offend. Why would I want to do that? It's pointless, 52 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 6: it is it just increases tension. I have no desire 53 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 6: for it. It is not the way I conduct my 54 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 6: life or my show. But it is inevitable to talk 55 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 6: about political correctness that if you give examples, somebody who 56 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 6: is politically correct will be offended. So let me tell 57 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 6: you in advance, that is the last thing I wished 58 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 6: to do. I gave an example. We talked about this 59 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 6: once when I spoke about stereotypes. So the issue about 60 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 6: there are two issues about stereotypes, not whether they're offensive, 61 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 6: whether they are true, and whether you apply it to 62 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 6: every member of that group. Right, that's the question, and 63 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 6: number one is it true? And number two is the 64 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 6: general Is the generalization true? But number two, do you 65 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 6: apply it to every member of the group. That's totally wrong. 66 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 6: That's totally wrong. That's the reason you can live with 67 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 6: stereotypes and not be a bigot. You can say in 68 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 6: general X or Y about a group, but that doesn't 69 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 6: mean that every time I meet a member of that 70 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 6: group that applies. That's everyone is an individual. So I 71 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 6: don't know if that applies. All right, So again, let 72 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 6: me make something clear political correctness, that the reason it 73 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 6: is damaging is that it fights truth. It is meant 74 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 6: or is designed to stop people from being offended. 75 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: But and that's good. 76 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 6: I don't there is no good in needlessly offending people, 77 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 6: of course not. But on the other hand, it is 78 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 6: It is a world built on lies if you can't 79 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 6: say certain things just because somebody or someone will be offended. 80 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: All right, So again there were two. 81 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 6: Let me begin with not the offensive part, but the 82 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 6: hurt the painful part. 83 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: All rights. 84 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 6: As an example, the best example of painful truths that 85 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 6: cannot be said and therefore become politically incorrect, has to 86 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 6: do with the differences between men and women. In the 87 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 6: nineteen sixties nineteen seventies, a lid was put on truth 88 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 6: telling about the sexes. The only thing you could say 89 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 6: about the sexes you could say really two things. One 90 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 6: you could criticize men all you like, patriarchy, sexism, et cetera, 91 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 6: et cetera, machismo, anything you like. The other is that 92 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 6: you can say that there are that you have to say. Essentially, 93 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 6: there are no differences inherent between the sexes. The moment 94 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 6: you spoke about inherent differences, then you were You were then. 95 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: Entering a painful truth. 96 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 6: When the president of Harvard, Lawrence Summers, who is now 97 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 6: a major economic advisor to President Barack Obama, when Laurence 98 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 6: Summers at Harvard as president, spoke about the question, which 99 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 6: he did interestingly enough, as one who wanted to advance women, 100 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 6: why are there so many fewer women in the sciences 101 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 6: and in math? And he offered as a theory said, well, 102 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 6: it is we need to study whether or not there 103 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 6: are certain inherent factors in the way the brains of 104 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 6: a man and the brain the brain of a man 105 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 6: in the brain of a woman function. That may be 106 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 6: a part of the reason that accounts for a fewer 107 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 6: women in the sciences and especially in math and engineering. 108 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 6: And I'm paraphrasing here for that, he was essentially removed 109 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 6: for that essential he was removed from the presidency of 110 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 6: Harvard University. The politically correct professors could not tolerate what 111 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 6: he said. 112 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: A woman. 113 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 6: I'll never forget the MIT professor who was present in 114 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 6: the room, who said she felt nauseous, she wanted to 115 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 6: throw up. An Mit professor, she wanted to throw up 116 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 6: when she heard that, why is this political correctness? Because 117 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 6: he was talking about a truth that was painful to 118 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 6: hear that perhaps the brain of women militated against their 119 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 6: pursuing math and engineering or some of the sciences. I 120 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 6: don't find it painful. It doesn't mean a thing to me. 121 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 6: If the question that I have is only is it 122 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: true or false? It has nothing to do with inferiority. 123 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 6: It has nothing to do with superiority. I'm all at math, 124 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 6: I'm awful at science and engineering. I don't feel inferior. 125 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 6: My brain is not registered in that arena. So what 126 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 6: so I didn't pursue it, but the idea that it 127 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 6: might be. We know that men's brains and women's brains 128 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 6: are different. 129 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: We know it. 130 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 6: I mean, it's a physical fact. So why would it 131 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 6: be odd if somebody had said, if a Harvard president 132 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 6: had gotten up and said, women are inherently more intuitive 133 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 6: than men, would anybody have demanded? Would men have demanded 134 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 6: that he resigned? Would a man say and wanted to 135 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 6: throw up? He'd either say, well, he's either right or 136 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 6: he's wrong. 137 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: Fine. 138 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 6: Now, of course that's not provable because intuitive is a 139 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 6: subjective term, and therefore it's not provable, like the question 140 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 6: about math science engineering, it's not as empirically establishable. But 141 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 6: there are many many truths, and there are many opinions 142 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 6: that can't be cited because they are things that people 143 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 6: don't want to hear. They're painful, not offensive, painful. For example, 144 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 6: if I were to go on a college campus and say, ley, 145 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 6: young women here, I just want to tell you that 146 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 6: I strongly advise that if you find a wonderful guy 147 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 6: while you're in your twenties, get married, even if you're 148 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 6: not ready with your career that you anticipate having, because 149 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 6: it is easier to attract a man at twenty five 150 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 6: than at fifty five. I would be booted out of 151 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 6: the college auditorium, even though what I said was demonstrably true, Okay, 152 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 6: because it's painful to hear. So one aspect of political 153 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 6: correctness is is it painful? The other aspect is is 154 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 6: it offensive? I'll talk about that when we come back 155 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 6: on the Ultimate Issues hour on the Dennis Prager Show. 156 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 157 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 158 00:11:36,760 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 6: Need you're listening to The Dennis Prager Show. The ultimate 159 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 6: issues hour. The ultimate issue today is what is political correctness? 160 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 6: And it is so difficult because by nature, if I'm 161 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 6: going to be honest, some people will be offended. It 162 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 6: is the last thing I want to do. But it 163 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 6: has to be grappled with. We have to try to 164 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 6: understand it. If you differ with my understanding of it, 165 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 6: then the police do call one eight Prager seven seven six. 166 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 6: There are two aspects to review here. One is that 167 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 6: it is a politically incorrect statement. Is a something true 168 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 6: that is painful? True that is painful, is especially especially 169 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 6: within a male female context, about the differences between men 170 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 6: and women, and it drives a lot of people crazy 171 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 6: who have a vested interest, for whatever reason, and I 172 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 6: don't know what that reason is, to believe that men 173 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 6: and women are essentially the same. And so when you 174 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 6: speak about certain truths that men are far more likely 175 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 6: to see women as sex objects than men to see 176 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 6: than women to see men as sex objects. As an example, 177 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 6: not amen, but men. It's so obviously true, Yet it's 178 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 6: for whatever reason it is painful for some people to hear. 179 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 6: I would think it would be painful for men to 180 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 6: hear because it doesn't speak so well about men, and 181 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 6: yet it is women who who have been taught to 182 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 6: find that objectionable. And uh so, any any mention of 183 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 6: differences that uh that girls play with tea sets and 184 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 6: uh and dolls more readily than boys do, that is 185 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 6: politically incorrect statement. 186 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: Is it true? 187 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 6: Of course it's true, But but it runs against it 188 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 6: runs against what is called political correctness, a way of 189 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 6: seeing the world that people wish were true. It's wishful thinking. 190 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 6: It's political correctness is a form of immaturity. It is 191 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 6: wishful thinking that a childlike person would have and adults 192 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 6: should grow up and realize that these these differences, these 193 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 6: truths are are there. I mean, it's almost politically incorrect 194 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 6: to say that people are not basically good because it 195 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 6: shatters a childlike and childish view of humanity is basically good. 196 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 6: So again, though I have to emphasize it, it has. 197 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: To be true. 198 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 6: If something is not true, then of course it's going 199 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 6: to be offensive. Of course, and even if it's true, 200 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 6: some people may do it to offend. But that's a 201 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 6: separate issue. The other is so one is painful and 202 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 6: the other is hurtful. It shouldn't be hurtful, but or 203 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 6: and maybe the distinction between painful and hurtful is a 204 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 6: subtle one. Maybe you can just combine them and that's fine. 205 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 6: I'll give an example there. If one speaks about the 206 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 6: greater rates of criminal violence among African Americans, all right, now, 207 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 6: the issue there becomes really whether or not it is offensive. 208 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 6: It is It should be clear within context. If the 209 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 6: purpose of a person is racist, meaning that somebody wants 210 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 6: to make a charge that blacks are inherently more violent, 211 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 6: that is offensive. And it's a lie. So it's got 212 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 6: a double whammy. So it's and it's offensive because it 213 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 6: is a lie. It means you just want to say 214 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 6: something bad about blacks. But if one wants to make 215 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 6: a better society for both black and white Americans or 216 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 6: any other any other national group that has blacks and 217 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 6: whites in it, and where you have this particular problem, 218 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 6: then acknowledging the greater rates of violence among among among 219 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 6: black males, and of course it's black males, not black females, 220 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 6: then that that's not it shouldn't be offensive. Rather, a 221 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 6: serious black says it's true, and we got to work 222 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 6: on it, instead of calling such a person like Uncle Tom. Look, 223 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: it is to say truths that are painful is very 224 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 6: hard because you get mulled for it. But nevertheless, Yeah, 225 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 6: my deepest belief is society crumbles under lies more than 226 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 6: any other single bad thing. Lies make society disappear, and 227 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 6: so we have to fight political correctness with all of 228 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 6: our weapons, and our weapons are truth. But truths that 229 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 6: are stated with a noble purpose, not to offend. Get 230 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 6: that truth stated with a noble purpose. The only purpose 231 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 6: of pointing out the greater rates of violence among black 232 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 6: males than among non black males is to help society 233 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 6: and to help blacks. That should be the only reason 234 00:17:12,679 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 6: you pointed out. If you point out because you are 235 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 6: just angry or you want to hurt blacks, well then 236 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 6: that is offensive. There is such a thing as offensive. 237 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 6: The fact that I find political correctness to be a 238 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 6: lie and dangerous doesn't mean that there aren't offensive statements 239 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 6: you could make. Even within jokes. There are ethnic jokes 240 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 6: that are just funny, and there are ethnic jokes that 241 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 6: are cruel. It is not possible to tell, in my opinion, 242 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 6: you cannot tell a joke that's funny about lynching. Lynching 243 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 6: is beyond the pale. There is no funny joke. There 244 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 6: is no funny Holocaust joke. You can tell funny jokes 245 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 6: about Jews, and by golly, I have in private. That's 246 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 6: that's a separate issue. That's why you have to know 247 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 6: does the person wish to offend? And there were certain 248 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 6: things that are gratuitously cruel. You don't you don't. You 249 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 6: don't mock suffering, human suffering. You can mock traits, but 250 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 6: you can't mock suffering with me. That's a big deal. 251 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 6: That's where there is ethnic humor I can laugh at, 252 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 6: and there is ethnic humor. 253 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: I cannot laugh at. 254 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 6: The fact that they're I mean the political correctness. I mean, 255 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 6: the most obvious one right now is you can't tell 256 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 6: the truths about Islamic terror. You can't even use the 257 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 6: word Islamic ad terror. 258 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: You can't yet yet. 259 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 6: Are are you more likely if you are hit by 260 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 6: a terrorist in the Western world today, or for that matter, 261 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 6: outside of Sri Lanka essentially, or outside of Columbia. I mean, 262 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 6: there are there are non Muslim terrorist groups, obviously, but internationally, 263 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 6: the the the only international uh terror organizations. 264 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: Are are Muslim. 265 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 6: I'm not saying their mainstream I'm not saying it's inherent 266 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 6: to Islam. Those are separate issues entirely. But you can't 267 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 6: even say that even though it's true. That's the it's 268 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: the war on truth about political correctness that is dangerous. 269 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 6: All right, I will take your call when we come back. 270 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 6: This is a rather significant subject. Remember, the war against 271 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 6: political incorrectness, the war on behalf of political correctness, is 272 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 6: really a war against truth. And you can't you can't 273 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 6: make a good and decent society based on lawes. It's 274 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 6: an ad it advocates lying. That's what political correctness in 275 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 6: its essence is about. One eighth Praguer seven seven six, 276 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 6: The Ultimate Issues Hour on the Dennis Prager Show. 277 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 278 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 279 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 6: All Right, everybody, Dennis Prager here, and I hope you 280 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 6: have been less I mean carefully. 281 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 2: Was that right for a talk show host to say? 282 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 6: Even because it's such an important subject and so rarely 283 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 6: clearly defined, And that is political correctness. And the issue, remember, 284 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 6: is ultimately not offense or painful. The ultimate issue is truth. 285 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 6: It's a war against truths in the guise of not 286 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 6: wanting to offend anybody. And even if the person really 287 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 6: is politically correct because they're afraid of offending anybody, it's 288 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 6: still a war against truth. Lies about groups are lies, 289 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 6: and they are defamatory, and they're libels. That's a separate 290 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 6: issue that's truly bad. Lakewood, New Jersey and Mark Kello, 291 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 6: Mark Dennis. 292 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 4: Praeger, Hi, Dennis Hi. What I wanted to say was 293 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 4: I think that one element besides the blocking out of truth, 294 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: I think there's an element that's very negative for the 295 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: victims because they tend to What happens is is that 296 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: they tend to start defunding themselves in the terms of 297 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: the people who offend them, and they don't get a 298 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: chance to develop their own self positive self definition. 299 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 6: That's a very intelligent point, very intelligent point. That's such 300 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 6: an important point, as if the person's truth about the 301 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 6: group means it's about me, right right, yes, very good. 302 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 6: Back to the example that I gave, and please forgive 303 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 6: me if you don't like this example, but if you 304 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 6: want me to use a different one, I'll use a 305 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 6: different one. But if one is talking about making a 306 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 6: better America and about crime, and one mentions that there 307 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 6: is a disproportionate amount of violence committed by by black mails. 308 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 6: Then why would a black be offended? Now, if the person, 309 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 6: as I said, if the person intends to hurt blacks, 310 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 6: then it's offensive. If the person intends to help blacks 311 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 6: and helps help America, it's not offensive. It's just a 312 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 6: sad truth. But my caller makes a very interesting point. 313 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 6: He said, maybe it's because the person hearing it internalizes 314 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 6: it as if you're saying it about all of us. 315 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 6: But of course not, of course not. And by the way, 316 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 6: I know he's right because so often I am misquoted 317 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 6: as saying, oh, Prager said, all as for example, the 318 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 6: men women thing, you know, all women can't be good engineers. 319 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 6: I happen to know a young woman who will probably 320 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 6: be a brilliant engineer. She's brilliant, and she probably will 321 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 6: make a spectacular engineer. But it doesn't negate the truism 322 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 6: that most women don't don't for whatever reasons, And I 323 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 6: don't believe they're cultural want to winter engineering. Why are 324 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 6: so many women into medicine? It was cultural to be 325 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 6: only only men went into medicine two generations ago. All right, 326 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 6: one eighth Prager seven seven six Tampa, Florida. David, Hello, David, 327 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 6: Dennis Prager, Yeah, hey Dennis, Okay, thanks? 328 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: Hey. 329 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: What is political correctness? 330 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: To me? 331 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: The ultimate definition of it is tyranny with manners. 332 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: Tyranny, tyranny with manners. What does that mean? 333 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: Well, what I mean by that is people really don't 334 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: believe in the niceties of political correctness. They're basically forced 335 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: to be politically correct out of fear of lawsuits and 336 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: being fired. 337 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 2: Or being called a bad name that's right, yes, right. 338 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: Or even thrown in prison like in Europe. 339 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: So what is it? 340 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 6: What of the manners the manners are among the tyrants 341 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 6: or what is that what you're saying? 342 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: Right? 343 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 3: They use these nice of these as manners, as good manners, 344 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: pass it off as good manners when actually, like you said, 345 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: a war against truth. But it's more than that, because 346 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: the only victims of political correctness are the white males. 347 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: It's basically a war against the white male. 348 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 6: Oh, that's an interesting subject, and I think there's a 349 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 6: lot of truth to that. Since you can say anything 350 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 6: about the white male and for whatever reason, there are 351 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 6: no politically correct problems with regard to him, that is correct. 352 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 6: You can say he's racist, you could say he's imperialist, 353 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: you could say he's macho, you could say he loves violence, 354 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 6: you could say he's patriarchal, and you're fine, that's right, 355 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 6: that is true. So there is a political correctness. The 356 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 6: very doctrine has an agenda, of course it is. But 357 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 6: my biggest anger is not its agenda. My biggest anger 358 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 6: is the war on truth that you are held back 359 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 6: from it. A reminder, by the way, that you can 360 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 6: get all of my shows in pristine clarity through prager 361 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 6: Topia back. 362 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: In a moment. 363 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 6: You're listening to the Dennis Prager Show. This is the 364 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 6: Ultimate Issues hour. Every week at this time I discuss 365 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 6: some great issue of life. I wish I had the 366 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 6: list in front of me. Give you examples of what 367 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 6: we've done, and they're all available. By the way, if 368 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 6: you subscribe to prager Topia, you get all my shows 369 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 6: downloaded a beautifully commercial free, highest fidelity. Just go to 370 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 6: Dennis Prager dot com, Pragertopia dot com, or prager Radio 371 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 6: dot com. That's pretty easy. Now, all right, let me 372 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 6: take some more of your calls. I'm talking about political correctness, 373 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 6: and this is so important. It is truths that cannot 374 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 6: be said that is, that is, in a nutshell, what 375 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 6: it is. If it's a lie, then of course it 376 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 6: shouldn't be said, whether it's offensive or not. Lies shouldn't 377 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 6: be said. But if it's offensive, first of all, we 378 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 6: should really do a show on when people take offense. 379 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 6: Maybe that's a happiness hour. I don't know, but maybe 380 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 6: it's it's just any hour, but we should put that down. 381 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 6: People take offense too easily, and it is. It is 382 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 6: a real problem. And it depends on what you're what 383 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 6: you want to do with what you're saying. Do you 384 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 6: want to hurt the group or do you want to 385 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 6: help the group or do you want to just make 386 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 6: a truth? These are all factors in what we say. 387 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 6: Let me take some examples here from your calls in 388 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 6: Ocean excuse me in Long Island, New York. It's Rachel Hi, 389 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 6: Rachel Dennis. 390 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 7: Hi, how are you. 391 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm well, thank you. 392 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 7: I just wanted to say that I agree one hundred 393 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 7: percent with everything that you say about politically correct and 394 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 7: it being the truth and people being afraid to hear it. 395 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 7: My question is when I have intellectual friends who are 396 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 7: on the left, and they would say, when you say that, 397 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 7: you have to ennoble. You have to when you say something, 398 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 7: it has to be for a noble reason. How could 399 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 7: you know that? I think that's what they would counter. 400 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 7: They would say, how do you know if someone is 401 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 7: being noble and I'm wondering how you would suggest? 402 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 6: Answering that, well, you know it the same way you 403 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 6: would know it. First of all, you don't always know it, 404 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 6: but you know it. A lot of the time you 405 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 6: ask the person, why are you making the point. I'll 406 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 6: give you an example. There are people who have called 407 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 6: up my show knowing I'm Jewish, and they have said, 408 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 6: you know, Jews are disproportionately represented in the media, to 409 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 6: which I immediately answer, you're right, what is the point? 410 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 6: And they they they Then they they have no answer 411 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 6: because in most cases, though, the people who make that 412 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 6: point are angry at Jews for whatever reason. So that's 413 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 6: that's not a point to a noble that's because I'm 414 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 6: just angry and I want to lash out. Of course, 415 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 6: it means nothing. It has no effect to any of them. 416 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 6: Use it to further Jewish causes. I wish. I mean, 417 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 6: you know, it's the last thing that they care about 418 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 6: is to promote Judaism or or or help Israel. That's 419 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 6: that's the last thing that most Jews in the media 420 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 6: care about. So that's an example, or or a whole 421 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 6: host of examples. But if somebody says, but by the way, 422 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 6: it remains a truth, Jews are disproportionately represented in the media. 423 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: The question is why. Why is the point being made? 424 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 6: Just as if somebody would call up and say, you know, Dennis, 425 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 6: Blacks are disproportionately represented Black males in violent crime, I'll 426 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 6: say that is true. What is your point? Now, if 427 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: they have no point, they're just lashing out. But if 428 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 6: they have a point, therefore what we need to do 429 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 6: is X, Y and Z to work within the black 430 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 6: community uh to, uh to, uh I don't know, to 431 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 6: further fatherhood there uh to, to bring good values into 432 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 6: the inner city. 433 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: Then that's a good reason. So that's so you you 434 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: you know the answer, Rachel. To answer your friends by 435 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: asking the question why are you making the point? 436 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 6: Well, they would. 437 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 7: Say, why is the person who's politically. 438 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 8: Incorrect making Yes, that's right. 439 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 6: So the person making the politically incorrect point needs an answer. 440 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 6: Here is why I'm making the point. If they're just 441 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 6: doing it to lash out at some group, then it 442 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 6: is just anger. 443 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 7: Right, but if if there's an ulterior, a positive ultnation. 444 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: Yes that's exactly right. 445 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 7: Yes, that's right, okay, because that's that's always Their claim 446 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 7: is that there's no way of nothing. 447 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 6: Well, well, but so ask that's all. There is a 448 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 6: way of knowing. Ask why did you make the point? 449 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 6: It's as simple as that great question, and I hope 450 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 6: it was a great answer. Let's go to let's go 451 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 6: to Ron in Oceanside, New York. Killo Ron, Dennis Prager. 452 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, Dennis, this is Oceanside, California. But right, idea, listen, 453 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 8: I'm the ocean Side gangbuster. I run a side on 454 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 8: YouTube and I have been involved in neighborhood Watch reducing 455 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 8: the ethnic gang terrorism we're subjected to. And for many years, 456 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 8: the police would show up and if the person calling 457 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 8: them was a white person, the police would shrug it off, like, 458 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 8: you know, you need to be more reasonable and cooperative, 459 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 8: you need to stay inside or you might get hurt, 460 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 8: and then they would leave as well. I had confronted 461 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 8: the chief of police about that. He had me give 462 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 8: a presentation. I said, look, you don't give a break 463 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 8: to people because of their skin color. And I said, 464 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 8: what you do is you deal with the people causing 465 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 8: the problems, regardless of their skin color. And crime is 466 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 8: down forty two percent in the last four years. 467 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: Because people are prepared to be more honest. 468 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 8: Well, I go to the city hall meetings. I raised 469 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 8: my hand up. I said, raise your hand if you've 470 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 8: been terrorized because you're white, and a lot of people 471 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 8: look at me. Some people raise their hands. People come 472 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 8: up to me later go, look, I'm glad someone's bringing 473 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 8: this up because I can't. I got kids in the school. 474 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 8: My wife works for the city. 475 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well that's so, that's that's what I'm saying. 476 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 6: You're saying because people have been able to say people 477 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 6: need to be free to say things without at the 478 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 6: same time wanting to hurt. If your point is to hurt, 479 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 6: then yes, it's it's it's not worth making. But if 480 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 6: your point is to say what appears to you to 481 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 6: be true and may not be true, let's find out. 482 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 6: When Jesse Jackson said that if somebody's walking behind him 483 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 6: in certain parts of big cities, he hears footsteps and 484 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 6: he turns around, he sees it's a white man, He's relieved. 485 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 6: Was he being anti black? Was he being was he 486 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 6: being what was he being? He's being honest. It's a 487 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 6: it's a sad honesty. But it's not anti black. It's 488 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 6: anti black. If somebody ridiculously infers to that black means violent, 489 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 6: that is idiocy. Not to mention bigotry and everything else, 490 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 6: but to say that there is that specific problem. It's 491 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 6: a good thing. It's a good thing. If Muslim leaders said, yes, 492 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 6: we do have a problem, God, the world would reach 493 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 6: out to them with and embrace them with respect and love. 494 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 6: We'll be back at a moment. 495 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 496 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Fragor's timeless wisdom. 497 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: If you have a brand on whom you think you 498 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: can't lie, you are lucky man. 499 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 5: If you found the reason to live on and not 500 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 5: to die, you are lucky Maniscott, don't. 501 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 6: Ten using st all right, everybody, you're listening to the 502 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 6: Dennis Prager Show. This has been the ultimate issues hour 503 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 6: defining political correctness, and the whole notion is a war 504 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 6: against truth in the guise of a war against offending anybody. 505 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 6: We shouldn't defend gratuitously, and people should not take offense easily. 506 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: Although of course there are. 507 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 6: Offensive comments that can be made that are made Elgin, 508 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 6: Texas Tommy, Hello Tommy. 509 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager, Hello, Dennis, how you doing. Hi? 510 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 9: I want to tell you a little story before I do. 511 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 9: I want a preface by asking you to go to 512 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 9: chick dot com and get a chance. It's like a 513 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 9: baby chicken chick dot com, and they'll tell you the 514 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 9: truth about the Roman Catholic institution and how the Muslim 515 00:34:17,279 --> 00:34:19,519 Speaker 9: religion actually is a off shot little bit all. 516 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 6: Right, all right, right, don't sneak in other points when 517 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 6: you had another one to make. 518 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 9: Go ahead, Hey, man, hey listen. I'm not from the North. 519 00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 9: I'm from the Chicago area and I moved to the 520 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 9: south here and I noticed the people down here don't 521 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 9: have a good sense of humor. They get offended, really 522 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 9: easy Northerners that kind of like to cut up and 523 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 9: crack jokes and stuff. And I had a guy at work, 524 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 9: Puerto Rican from New York, and we hit it off, 525 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 9: I thought, and we would tell we would tease each 526 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 9: other when we came on duty. And you know, he 527 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 9: would tease me and I tease him right back, and 528 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 9: I you know, I mean a fake joke. I was 529 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 9: a light hearted joke about Puerto Ricans being clouds, clouset homosexuals, 530 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 9: which I was just didn't mean it. You know, it 531 00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 9: was just a joke, it's all it. 532 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: Was, okay, and he got offended. 533 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 6: Let me just quickly because of the time fact that 534 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 6: we just have one minute to go here on these jokes. 535 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 6: Here is my view, generally speaking, it is not worth 536 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 6: telling people of other groups jokes about their group. Okay, 537 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 6: we can tell a in private, that's fine. It's like, 538 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 6: you know, it's my view of like using swear words, 539 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 6: I'm against it in public. I'm also against it primarily 540 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 6: generally in private, however, you talk to your wife, you know, 541 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 6: pillow talk, and you use an expletive. I don't think 542 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 6: it's a particularly big big deal when you're just emoting 543 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 6: about something. Likewise, with these jokes, it doesn't make you 544 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 6: a bigot if you confine it to your home table, 545 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 6: all right, where I remember there was a time when 546 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 6: they told school children report the class if your parent 547 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 6: told an ethnic joke, that doesn't make anybody a bigot. 548 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 6: It is, but it is not a wise thing to 549 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 6: tell people at the workplace jokes about their own group. Hey, 550 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 6: if they invite it, it's one thing. If you swap jokes, 551 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 6: it's quite another. But you know, look, there's wisdom to 552 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 6: in life, but political correctness and jokes are separate issues. 553 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 6: I'm talking about truths about male female differences as an example, 554 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 6: where it's a very bad thing for kids to grow 555 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 6: up thinking it's the same thing to be a male 556 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 6: and to be a female. This has been the Ultimate 557 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 6: Issues Hour. By the way, I mentioned that I'm teaching 558 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 6: Bible starting tomorrow night. It's actually starting tonight American Jewish 559 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 6: University and it is up at Pragerradio dot com. Thank 560 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 6: you for listening. 561 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: This has been timeless wisdom with Dennis Prager. Visit Dennisprager 562 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: dot com for thousands of hours of Dennis's lectures, courses, 563 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: and classic radio programs, and to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles.