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Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to

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Speaker 1: Go start at turning point. You would say college chapter.

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Speaker 1: Go start at turning point, yould say high school chapter.

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Speaker 1: Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign

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Speaker 1: up and become an activist. I gave my life to

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Speaker 1: I have to do my best not to lose my voice.

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Speaker 1: I lost my voice two weeks ago. Not fun. It

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Speaker 1: is a hazard of kind of being in this business

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Speaker 1: right now. I don't even want to talk politics right now.

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Speaker 1: We all know that. Instead, I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: something that is bothering me, regarding the church, not caring

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we were at University of Georgia where we had

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Speaker 1: and I think you all know it, and that's why

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Speaker 1: George Barnom and George Barna is the gold standard of

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Speaker 1: Today. You see what the problem is. We're afraid the

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Speaker 1: But why is it that the vote, which is a

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Speaker 2: TikTok turns connection into community through small acts of understanding.

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Speaker 2: You can feel it in the comments in the thank

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Speaker 2: a place where respect opens the door for discussion, and

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Speaker 1: It's very simple, and I know a lot of you

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Speaker 1: guys are doing that, but it's not enough just to

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Speaker 1: You need to have a full time person on your staff.

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Speaker 1: Jack Kibbs has this who is literally the Salt and

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Speaker 1: to get involved locally. They're all these different things and

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Speaker 1: then so then all of a sudden, it's less of

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Speaker 1: My pastor in Athens, Georgia, thank you for coming yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome. I've always wanted to ask you this question.

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Speaker 1: Made you rethink a position or alter a position, rethink

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Speaker 1: will say that sometimes hearing first person stories not rethink

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Speaker 1: been very illuminating to me, and how college kids, how

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Speaker 1: They're looking for direct truth that resonates with them. And

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Speaker 1: this is the total misunderstanding of what your youth pastors

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Speaker 1: will tell you. By the way, if you guys want

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Speaker 1: to lose a church, hire a bad youth pastor. It's

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Speaker 1: seen it happen many times. They go to these cemeteries,

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Speaker 1: I mean seminaries, and then they come to your church.

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Speaker 1: They're filled with all this woke stuff. They'll build a

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Speaker 1: the They'll they'll build like a woke insurgent movement within

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Speaker 1: by the way, on the on the vice versa, good

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Speaker 1: youth pastors can make your church just flourish and can

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Speaker 1: grow beyond anything. So why does that matter Because the

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Speaker 1: idea of youth pastors will say as well, these kids

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Speaker 1: you talk about these topics. I don't find that to

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Speaker 1: be true. Actually, I think that precisely, crisply delivered truth

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Speaker 1: that is suffering and that is drowning in this sea

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Speaker 1: of sin. They don't need to be affirmed. They're affirmed

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Speaker 1: someone will say I am gay. I'll say, well, actually

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Speaker 1: you're acting gay, but being gay is not an identity

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Speaker 1: of which I accept. And if you guys, as a pastor,

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Speaker 1: are not willing to say that, I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: will go through some prayer, because as soon as we

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Speaker 1: admit or acknowledge that homosexuality is an identity, we've lost

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Speaker 1: the entire debate. We acknowledge that it can be a proclivity,

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Speaker 1: it can be an impulse, and it is certainly an action,

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Speaker 1: but it is not an identity. The only identity that

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Speaker 1: we as Christians care about is saved and unsaved. Those

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Speaker 1: are the only two identities that matter to God. Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys so much, to see you guys soon. Thank you

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