WEBVTT - No More Weaponized Justice 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:07.880 I'm Josh Hammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.799 It wasn't long ago that the Democrat Lawfair complex under 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.200 the auspices of President Joe Biden, Attorney General Merrick Garland, 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:19.159 and epic scumbag quote unquote special counsel Jack Smith. It 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.640 was not that long ago that they were putting Donald 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.200 Trump and others, but namely the then past and future 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.040 President Donald Trump. They're putting him through the ringer in 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.320 every possible way imaginable. During the height of the Democrat 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.520 Lawfair from twenty twenty three into twenty twenty four, Donald 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.720 Trump was being prosecuted in not one, not two, not three, 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:42.080 but four different jurisdiction. Jack Smith was pressing federal charges 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.760 against President Trump in both Washington, d C. And in 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:48.320 the state of Florida. You had Alvin Bragg, the Soros 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:52.440 funded hack Alvin Bragg in New York City pursuing charges 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.560 on the whole storm of Daniels Michael Cohen's quote unquote 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:59.160 fraudulent bookkeeping saga. And then you had Fannie Willis with 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.440 her lover Nathan Wade in Fulton County, Georgia, the home 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.559 of Orlanda. You had them there pursuing Rico charges. Rico 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.160 the statute that Congress first advised to go after LaCOSA 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.520 Nostra or the mafia. Yes, apparently they thought in Fulton County, Georgia, 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.760 that this would be a good statute to use to 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:20.120 prosecute Donald Trump and his allies who litigated the twenty 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.160 twenty election. Just utterly astounding stuff. Well before you knew it, 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.000 Before you knew it, the Democrat law fair complex was 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:30.080 up in flames. Jack Smith was disqualified as the special 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.920 council in the Florida litigation if the Florida case that 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.000 he brought was the action stemming from the unprecedented mar 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.880 Lago raid in August of twenty twenty two. This is 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:43.520 a case pertaining to Donald Trump's allegedly allegedly illegal stashing 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.160 and hoarding of classified documents as a holdover from his 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.000 time in the White House from his first term. Well, 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.800 it was in the summer of twenty twenty four that 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:56.880 the Florida case was dismissed because the judge, Judge Cannon 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.360 in the Southern Dition of Florida, dismissed it because she said, 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.240 citing a Clarence Thomas concurrence of the US Supreme Court 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.639 in the Trump versus the United States case, Judge Cadden 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.160 persuasively argued that Jacksmith was actually not properly appointed as 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.440 a special counsel. Ultimately, Jack Smith, of his own accord, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.320 ends up withdrawing the DC case. The DC case being 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.440 his crown jewel. This is his prosecution, essentially alleging a 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.960 stolen election and have various forms of conspiracy to defraud 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.680 the United States. This is all essentially about January sixth. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.440 This is really the January sixth prosecution. Well well, well, well, 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.000 Jack Smith hadn't heard a whole lot from that guy. 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.200 Have we the tip of the spear, the tip of 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.079 the spear of the Democrat lawfare compicts. You see, think 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:44.000 about Joe Biden as the Palpatine and Merrick Garland essentially 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.200 as the Darth Vader. They were really the one two 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.640 punch who were who were overlooking all of this. And 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:51.680 when I say all of it, I actually mean all 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.400 of it. We have barely only scratched the surface with 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.680 what we know thus far about the extent of coronation 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.800 and collusion between these federal prosecutions and the state and 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.520 local prosecutions. I'm actually not even talking about the civil case, 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.120 the civil case that has since gone from Attorney General 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.440 Tis James in New York State, that's actually not even 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.600 a prosecution. It's technically a civil case. This is the 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.840 case against the Trump organization for allegedly trying to defraud 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.560 financial institutions when it comes to bank clons. Even holding 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.280 that aside, we have barely scratched the surface of what 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.280 we know about the coordination between Jack Smith and Fannie 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:28.120 Willis and Alvin Bragg, the two local prosecutors. We know 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.480 from Jim Jordan, the congressman from Ohio, who was able 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.520 to obtain records showing that there was an unusual amount 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.560 of visitation of the Biden White House from Alvin Bragg 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.600 and or Fannie Willis. Who were they meeting. Were they 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.960 meeting with the White House Counsel's office, Were they meeting 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.840 with the big guy himself. There's a lot left to 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.080 uncoffer and as part of this investigation to try to 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.160 learn the truth about just what exactly went down during 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.600 those those horrific years where the Democrat law fair complex 0:03:55.760 --> 0:04:01.680 took this country to unprecedented, unprecedented, un shartered places. When 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.080 it comes to the use of the prosecutorial power of 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.160 the States in order to target an attempt to bankrupt 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.960 and incarcerate your political enemies. We are barely barely getting 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.480 this ship rolling and House Republicans had Jack Smith. We 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.680 haven't heard from him in a while. He trotted out 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.240 before the House Juuary Committee on Thursday, January twenty seconds, 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.640 and boy was it a doozy. There was just a 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.159 lot of back and forth from this hearing so much 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.720 good stuff to talk about. Brandon Gill, recent guest here 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.880 on the Josh Hammer Show, Connors and Brandy Gill going 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:36.400 absolutely scorched earth on Jack Smith. A lot of absolute 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.480 fire in that exchange from Congressman Gill, Congressman ship Roy, 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:43.160 someone else who was very, very very animated about what 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.920 Jack Smith was doing as a result of his January 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.440 sixth probe, which is very closely tied to the still 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.240 ongoing extent of our attempt to learn more about Arctic frost, 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.000 which again was this January sixth related fish nets, this 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.760 fish net of the Merrick Garland era DOJ trying to 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.000 subpoena and acquire a lot of information, essentially just trying 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.279 to figure out who was involved in any extent whatsoever 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.600 when it comes to January sixth, the worst day in 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.600 the history of humanity and events, Congressman Ship Roy, much 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.200 like his former boss and his fellow Texan Ted Cruz, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.839 recently found out that his phone records were apparently subpoena 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.239 As a result of this, Jack Smith, Merri Garland, doj 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:26.400 Arctic Frost, hullablu. Here was Congressman ship Roy grilling Jacksmith? Boy? 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.080 Was he animated? Go ahead and watch this one? 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:32.720 Is this the complete list right here? Let me ask 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:37.440 you this, Am I on this list? Did you target 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.840 my records and subpoena my phone tool records? 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.520 My understanding is your records were subpoenaed by prosecutors before 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:48.560 I became Special counsel. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.480 Well's Stafford put this up on the screen. Thankful for 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.440 the great staff who discovered the email where I learned 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.080 for the first time a few weeks ago, did my 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:01.520 phone records were indeed targeted? We called AT and T 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.159 and we've learned that they were given to the Department 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:08.440 of Justice, as this email indicates, because I had been 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:12.799 in communication with Scott Perry. What are my colleagues here 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.000 in Congress who literally had his phone taken from him 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.440 in front of his family, and of course that we've 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.680 already talked about in this document. It talks about you 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.240 could be in violation the privilege by even obtaining and 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.039 possessing this information if the member objected to the disclosure. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.320 This happened four years ago, in May of twenty twenty two, 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.400 and I couldn't object because I didn't know. I didn't 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:33.880 know until about three weeks ago. 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.039 And Chip Roy actually went on and on in this exchange, 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.200 and he's obviously anime and as he should be, both 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.599 fat that he was caught up in this outrageous Arctic 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:45.720 frost drage. Another amazing point that comic Manroy mede in 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.479 that exchange was he noted that Jack Smith, you were 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.920 actually disqualified. You were disqualified from the Florida case by 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.880 Judge Aileen Cannon. His appeal never ended up materialized when 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.880 the clock essentially ran out. Well, we recently had a 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.640 case where another another acting used a turn. In this case, 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:05.640 the Trump nominated Lindsay Halligan in Virginia. She was also 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.200 ruled she was incorrectly ruled, but she was ruled nonetheless 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.320 to be improperly serving as he was attorney after the 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.240 clock right now. The weeds are not part of our 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.600 conversation here. But the federal judge in that case ruled 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.640 that a prosecutor who continues to sign his or her 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.920 name in court filings after a disqualification order should face 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.960 disciplinary action or disbarment. And as chip Roy said, the 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.440 Jack Smith, isn't that like, bro isn't it literally exactly 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.880 what you did? And Jack Smith had no answer whatsoever. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.760 I mentioned Congressman Brandon Gil, Chiproy's colleague from the text 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:38.400 Republican delegation, and boy, Congressman Gil really was just letting 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.360 it up. Yet again. Let's go ahead and ask you 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.120 watch a clip of Brandon Gill just ripping into Jacksmith. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.520 How many days after Kevin McCarthy was sworn in his 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.520 speaker did you subpoena his records? 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.320 I don't recall, but those two things had nothing. 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:56.200 It was sixteen days after becoming the highest ranking Republican 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:00.160 in the House of Representatives, usubpoenaed his toll records. Do 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.200 you agree that that might reasonably be considered a violation 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:04.440 of the speech of debate clause? 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.160 I do not, and I want to be clear that 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:09.840 the toll we. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.320 Were collecting month's worth of phone data on the Republican 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.600 Speaker of the House, the leader of the opposition, right 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.360 after he got sworn in as speaker, all around the 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.680 time of a major vote. That sounds like a flagrant 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.960 violation of the speech or debate clause to me, and 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.000 I think most people agree with me. And Speaker McCarthy 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.680 had no recourse, did he, because you issued a non 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.360 disclosure order ensuring that neither he nor any of the 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.240 American people knew about the subpoenas. 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:36.760 Is that right? 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.320 The toll record, the non content toll record subpoena is 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.199 we did secure non disclosure orders for those subpoenas. You did. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.000 And let me ask you, mister Smith, at the time 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.240 you secured those non disclosure orders, was Speaker McCarthy a 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:51.880 flight risk? 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.760 The non disclosure order was based on concerns about it. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.440 Was Speaker McCarthy a flight she was not all right? 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.440 So just brutal stuff there again, subpeding the opposition party 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.880 Speaker of the House. I mean, who does Jacksmith frankly 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.520 think that he is And don't just take it actually 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:14.320 from the Republican congressional delegations. Actually was CNN's own in 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:18.160 house legal analyst Ellie Honig, who actually herself conceded on 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.520 CNN that Jacksmith didn't look so great about his attempt 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.679 to rush these prosecutions prior to the election. Let's go 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.640 ahead and fire this one on from CNN to your. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.080 Question, Brianna, the last congressman we saw point brought up 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.680 the fact that Jack Smith demanded a trial date four 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.160 months out, five months out in a case involving thirteen 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.440 million pages of documents. There is no defense layer in 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.800 the country who can constitutionally prepare for trial and defend 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.240 his client on that short of time frame. And the 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.480 implication was you were rushing to get this in before 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.160 the twenty twenty four election. Jacksmith did not defend himself, 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:50.679 by the way, he didn't say a word about that, 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.480 which I found straight. Yeah, it's true, right, it's true exactly, 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.640 and before the election exactly. And Jacksmith has always maintained 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.719 this veneer that he never thought about the election. Of 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.200 course he did. Why would you demand such a quick 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:02.640 trial day? 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.839 Okay, so the jig is up. The jig is up, Jack, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.080 That's really what we're getting at here. The jig is 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.400 just totally up. You've been exposed for what many of 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.440 us knew. You were all along a complete and utter 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:20.319 partisan hack, the front facing part of the Biden Garland 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.959 Democrat law fair phalanx, taking us to the rudeous brink 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:31.320 of tinpot Latin American dictatorship sub Saharan Africa. Incarcerate, prosecute, 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.680 and destroy your political opponents under the quote unquote rule 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.240 of law by any means necessary. Jack Smith, if he 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.480 had any if he had any sense of decency, any 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.640 sense of shame, would hide his head in a bag 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.240 for the rest of his adult's life. Frankly, he should 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.560 go back to Holland, which memory serves where he actually 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.640 came back the United States from he was living in Europe. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.240 Unbelievable stuff. So now what now? 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:55.320 What? 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.680 I want to see charges filed. I want to see 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.160 investigations further and charge just filed. I want to know, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:02.760 and I think most American voters want to know the 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.360 exact extent of the collusion between Jack Smith, Fannie Willis, 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.880 Alvin Bragg, and potentially others. Maybe it's James who knows. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.439 Let's see where the inquiry leads. There are statutes on 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.400 the book for this. There's a criminal Statute eighteen US Code, 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:17.320 Section two forty one, a criminal conspiracy against rights where 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:21.360 you conspire to deny the constitutional rights of others. Well, 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.520 that's what they did in this particular case. They're the 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:28.040 speedy trial, the speedy trial clause. That's constitution rights, free speech, 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:32.400 definitely constitution rights. I want to see charges brought. The 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.760 American people need justice. How many massive scandals can we 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.800 endure without getting justice or any accountability and just go 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.440 on like as nothing. No, the time for justice is now. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.760 And in this case, justice means ending politicized justice and 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.920 actually getting charges filed and the investigators continuing. When it 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.600 comes to the dirt bag, quote unquote Roney, Special Council 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.000 Jack Smith say with us, with the break, folks, we 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:04.040 will be right back. Welcome back. So the big story 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.480 in Washington, d c. Itself today, addition to the fallout 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:11.240 from Jack Smith's really fire interrogation yesterday at the House 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.440 Usual Community, the big story today is that this is 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:17.360 the annual March for Life. So, first of all, God 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.679 bless you if you are there in Washington C. If 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.080 you are marching for life, in the March for Life. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.280 I have not actually ever participated in the Washington d 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.160 C Big National March for Life. I participated in other 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.840 local marches for Life. I most clearly remember doing so 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.800 in Chicago when I was in law school in Chicago, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.360 when it was really really could it happens in January 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.679 every year, it happens on the anniversary of the Roe 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.199 versus Wade decision from nineteen seventy three, and I just 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.120 remember going out with some of my classmates who were 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.599 also involved as I was in the Law Students for 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.720 Life chapter. I remember going out there in downtown Chicago 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.880 in quite literally sub zero temperatures. But it's worth it. 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.400 It's really worth it, because there is nothing more important 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:01.280 Franklin in the realm of policy, policy and law then 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.199 this particular issue. I mean, how could it be forget 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.120 about faith? For a second, Faith is obviously deeply important. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.840 We're all about faith on the show. We're all about 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.319 the religion. Religion, We're all about the Bible. My syndicate 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:13.880 a calm that just came out earlier today. You can 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.199 find that out that Newsweek, various sale media properties such 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:18.960 as town Hall, PG Media and so forth. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:19.120 There. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.360 My comm today is about the Ten Commandments litigation in 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.320 the US corpiols for the fifth circuit, which which we 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.520 discussed earlier this week on the Josh Ammershow so, we're 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.760 all about faith, but you don't even need to go 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.160 through a biblical or religious lens in order to land 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.439 on the right side of the pro life issue. I've 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.080 been passionate about this issue for so so long, since 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:43.120 well before I had my own religious observant awakening in Adulton. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.199 Because all you need is a modicum of common sense, 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:50.960 a modicum of understanding of a basic biology, a basic embryology. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.000 You know, I was reading this, I got acquainted connected 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.280 to this PhD student at the University of Chicago, if 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.520 memory serves it was there in Northwestern won the Chicago 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.000 based schools, and he got PhD at this point probably 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.360 six seven years ago. And his studies dissertation that he 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.880 did was, among things today, was he took a global 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:14.000 survey of biologists. His survey was roughly four to five 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:18.000 thousand biologists there, and he asked them, among other questions, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.600 when does life begin, and the percentage who said the 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:25.280 life begins at fertilization, which made pro lifers call conception. 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.000 It's the same thing. The egg is fertilized, there the 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:32.400 percentage of the biologists PhDs who said fertilization was over 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.240 ninety five percent. I don't hear the exact number, but 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.840 it was really, really, really high. There is no debate 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.600 in the scientific literature that life as we recognize it, 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:45.720 meaning a distinct genetic code, distinct DNA, et cetera, forms 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.360 at the moment that sperm fertilizes egg. And it is 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.080 perhaps for that reason that the pro life fight has 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:56.040 always been about trying to end abortion. You know, there 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.520 was this information operation that happens around the time of 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.600 the Jackson Versus Women's Health Formance decision, the massive Supreme 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.920 Court decision at the Court that came out in the 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.800 summer of twenty twenty two, three and a half years ago. Now, 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.160 there was this misinformation operation coming from the left. Oh, 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.680 you guys won. Okay, you know, like golf clap. You know, 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.560 we hate it, but you guys won. There you got 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.760 abortion kicked back. The States say it's no longer a 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.880 Fourteenth Amendments constitutionalized issue. There, game over. Let's call it truce, 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:26.800 to which I said, uh, what truce? This is not 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.480 the result here, buddy. I'm really happy. I'm really really 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.360 happy that the Dobbs case went the way it did. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.720 Trust me, in fact, was actually my own former boss, 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.000 Judge James Hoe, of these corpials for the Fifth Circuit, 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.200 who sat on the lower court panel in the Fifth 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.240 Circuit out of this underlying Mississippi abortion law that ends 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.320 up getting litigated there. So I followed that case very 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.800 very closely from its earliest instantiation. By the way, a 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.240 sign note before we proceed, I think it's also important 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:53.600 to note that we still don't have an answer. By 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.920 the way, to the leak, I mean, I think like 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.640 I'm the only one who still thinks about this. There 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:02.760 was a leak of the sam Alito Penn's majority draft 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.840 opinion in the Dobbs case. That thing leaked to Josh 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.680 Gerstein and his co author of Politico. In early May 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:13.160 twenty twenty two. The Court did some sham investigation, some 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.600 internal investigation where they said, our hands are tied. We 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.800 don't know what we're doing here. What I mean, the 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.440 pool of people who this could be is literally under 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.160 one hundred. We're talking like sixty to seventy eighty people. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:30.040 The most the justice, they're lawkirks, the janitorial staff, I mean, 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.640 the list of people who possibly could have had access 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.120 to that is really small. We should know, we really, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.000 really really should know who leaked that opinion. And I 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.000 think the travesty Frankie that we don't know who it is. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.440 But in any event, Dobbs comes out and it's a 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:47.800 very standard history and tradition originalistic opinion from Justice Leo. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:52.160 There the issue kicks back to the legislatures. Legislature is implural, 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.080 by the way, not just the States, but also the Congress. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.320 Congress has an absolute role to play when it comes 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.160 to abortional legislation. Do not let anyone tell you that 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.120 there is no role to play for Congress when it 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.280 comes to trying to legislate on the abortion issue. Section 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.080 five to the Fourteenth Amendments, known as the Enforcement Clause, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:15.000 permits Congress to legislate to enforce sections one through four 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.000 of the Fourteenth Amendments as necessary. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:17.760 Well. 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.520 Section one fourteen Amendments has the Equal Protection Clause, which 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.000 says that all persons must be treated equally purposiest of 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.000 the law. I'd argue for many years actually that under 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.879 the original understanding of the Equal Protection Clause of eighteen 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:35.400 sixty eight that unborn human beings ought to be construed 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.680 as persons. Congress should legislate, and God willing, ideally you'll 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.440 have a court who actually rule on these fourteen Amendment 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:46.119 lines for constitutional parenthood, constitutional personhood. Excuse me, because that 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.200 really is what ought to happen. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:48.439 Now. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.600 The jodministrant has recently been something of a mixed bag 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.679 when it comes to the pro life issue. So just 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.320 this week, timing it to the March for Life, administration 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.800 to the great credit, is announcing that they are expanding 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.760 what's known as the Mexico City policies. So the Mexico 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.359 City policy is a long standing ban on US taxpayer 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.679 subsization of abortions overseas, essentially ever since Ronald Reague announced 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.680 this thing back in nineteen eighty four. You have Republican 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.960 presidents that institute it, Democrat presidents that rescind it, Republican 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:14.640 presidences put it back in. It's basically just an ever, 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:19.040 just a total never ending seesaw. So the trumpministration correctly 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.159 and laudably nobly expanding the Mesco Citney policy now to 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.359 cover not just subsization for abortions overseas, but also subsization 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.919 for gender ideology and DEI programs overseas as well. So 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.040 that's very good. Unfortunately, some other stuff administration has been 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.560 less good. So recently, Donald Trump speaking at the Kennedy 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.560 Center or the Trump Kenny Center, I guess as we're 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.880 renaming it. Trump was talking to Republicans in Congress, encouraging 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.199 them to be flexible on the Hide Amendment. Well, the 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.400 High Amendment is a long standing provision that prevents US 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:55.000 taxpayer subsization of abortion. Domestically, that there will be no 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.960 taxpayer funds that subsize abortion through Medicaid, Medicare, or Title 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.440 ten or any other federal programs. That would be a disaster. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.080 There's no need to go weak on the High Amendment, 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:12.000 the notion that American should not be subsidizing abortion. It's 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.600 actually a very politically popular issue. Republicans do not run 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.119 away from that for a second. That, with all due 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.560 spectmister President, that is very very bad advice. It would 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.360 be a tragic error, and frankly, it would just be 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.960 a total disaster. Similarly, it seems to me that the 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:30.000 FDA and HHS more generally, under Secretary Bobby Kennedy and 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.240 his underlings there at the FDA are going way way 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.720 too soft on the abortion pill, on MiFi pristone, which 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.040 is known to have extremely dangerous side effects. There, biff 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.760 a pristone should not be readily publicly available. You should 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:44.760 not be able to just walk into a CVS or 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:49.800 a Walgreens and obtain this drug. It's a legitimate debate 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.200 as to whether or not, if abortion is illegal, should 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.199 this be legal in the first place? There, I think 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.159 a lot of us, frankly would say notes that, but 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.960 at a bare minimum, at a bare minimum, this is 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:02.840 not a safe, effective, necessary medication as the abortion law 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.359 describes it. There, and Josh Hawley has been at the 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:08.160 tip of the sphere of the Republican legislators pushing back 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:12.280 against that, to his great credit. Now, the broader point 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.399 is this to take us back to the March for 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.760 life and Dobbs and Roe versus Wait, we're not stopping. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:20.880 We in the pro life community, and I've been passed 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.520 by this issue for my entire adult life. I consider 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.200 lightlave Rose a friend. I've spoken with the Live Action conferences. 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.160 I found that my Lastuents Live chapter, I'm all in 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.680 on the right to life issue. We are not stopping 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:37.520 until there is abortion abolition in America. We are not 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:43.120 stopping until abortion goes the way of chattel slavery. Yes, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.560 those two issues actually are essentially one and the same. 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.440 Slavery was the subjugation of human beings, treating some human 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:57.679 beings as not human beings. Abortion similarly is to treat smaller, tiny, 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:02.000 microscopic human beings as if they are not human beings legally, 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.600 speaking of the exact same fabricated, made up constitutional standard, 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.800 so called substant due process. That's what gave us slavery 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.040 again in dred Scott's and that's what gave us abortion Roverswade. 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.679