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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't long ago that the Democrat Lawfair complex under

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Speaker 1: the auspices of President Joe Biden, Attorney General Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 1: and epic scumbag quote unquote special counsel Jack Smith. It

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Speaker 1: was not that long ago that they were putting Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump and others, but namely the then past and future

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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump. They're putting him through the ringer in

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Speaker 1: every possible way imaginable. During the height of the Democrat

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Speaker 1: Lawfair from twenty twenty three into twenty twenty four, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump was being prosecuted in not one, not two, not three,

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Speaker 1: but four different jurisdiction. Jack Smith was pressing federal charges

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Speaker 1: against President Trump in both Washington, d C. And in

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Speaker 1: the state of Florida. You had Alvin Bragg, the Soros

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Speaker 1: funded hack Alvin Bragg in New York City pursuing charges

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Speaker 1: on the whole storm of Daniels Michael Cohen's quote unquote

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Speaker 1: fraudulent bookkeeping saga. And then you had Fannie Willis with

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Speaker 1: her lover Nathan Wade in Fulton County, Georgia, the home

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Speaker 1: of Orlanda. You had them there pursuing Rico charges. Rico

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Speaker 1: the statute that Congress first advised to go after LaCOSA

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Speaker 1: Nostra or the mafia. Yes, apparently they thought in Fulton County, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: that this would be a good statute to use to

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Speaker 1: prosecute Donald Trump and his allies who litigated the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty election. Just utterly astounding stuff. Well before you knew it,

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Speaker 1: Before you knew it, the Democrat law fair complex was

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Speaker 1: up in flames. Jack Smith was disqualified as the special

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Speaker 1: council in the Florida litigation if the Florida case that

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Speaker 1: he brought was the action stemming from the unprecedented mar

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Speaker 1: Lago raid in August of twenty twenty two. This is

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Speaker 1: a case pertaining to Donald Trump's allegedly allegedly illegal stashing

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Speaker 1: and hoarding of classified documents as a holdover from his

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Speaker 1: time in the White House from his first term. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was in the summer of twenty twenty four that

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Speaker 1: the Florida case was dismissed because the judge, Judge Cannon

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Speaker 1: in the Southern Dition of Florida, dismissed it because she said,

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Speaker 1: citing a Clarence Thomas concurrence of the US Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: in the Trump versus the United States case, Judge Cadden

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Speaker 1: persuasively argued that Jacksmith was actually not properly appointed as

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Speaker 1: a special counsel. Ultimately, Jack Smith, of his own accord,

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Speaker 1: ends up withdrawing the DC case. The DC case being

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Speaker 1: his crown jewel. This is his prosecution, essentially alleging a

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Speaker 1: stolen election and have various forms of conspiracy to defraud

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Speaker 1: the United States. This is all essentially about January sixth.

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Speaker 1: This is really the January sixth prosecution. Well well, well, well,

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith hadn't heard a whole lot from that guy.

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Speaker 1: Have we the tip of the spear, the tip of

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Speaker 1: the spear of the Democrat lawfare compicts. You see, think

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Speaker 1: about Joe Biden as the Palpatine and Merrick Garland essentially

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Speaker 1: as the Darth Vader. They were really the one two

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Speaker 1: punch who were who were overlooking all of this. And

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Speaker 1: when I say all of it, I actually mean all

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Speaker 1: of it. We have barely only scratched the surface with

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Speaker 1: what we know thus far about the extent of coronation

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Speaker 1: and collusion between these federal prosecutions and the state and

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Speaker 1: local prosecutions. I'm actually not even talking about the civil case,

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Speaker 1: the civil case that has since gone from Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Tis James in New York State, that's actually not even

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Speaker 1: a prosecution. It's technically a civil case. This is the

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Speaker 1: case against the Trump organization for allegedly trying to defraud

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Speaker 1: financial institutions when it comes to bank clons. Even holding

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Speaker 1: that aside, we have barely scratched the surface of what

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Speaker 1: we know about the coordination between Jack Smith and Fannie

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Speaker 1: Willis and Alvin Bragg, the two local prosecutors. We know

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Speaker 1: from Jim Jordan, the congressman from Ohio, who was able

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Speaker 1: to obtain records showing that there was an unusual amount

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Speaker 1: of visitation of the Biden White House from Alvin Bragg

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Speaker 1: and or Fannie Willis. Who were they meeting. Were they

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Speaker 1: meeting with the White House Counsel's office, Were they meeting

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Speaker 1: with the big guy himself. There's a lot left to

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Speaker 1: uncoffer and as part of this investigation to try to

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Speaker 1: learn the truth about just what exactly went down during

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Speaker 1: those those horrific years where the Democrat law fair complex

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Speaker 1: took this country to unprecedented, unprecedented, un shartered places. When

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Speaker 1: it comes to the use of the prosecutorial power of

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Speaker 1: the States in order to target an attempt to bankrupt

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Speaker 1: and incarcerate your political enemies. We are barely barely getting

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Speaker 1: this ship rolling and House Republicans had Jack Smith. We

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Speaker 1: haven't heard from him in a while. He trotted out

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Speaker 1: before the House Juuary Committee on Thursday, January twenty seconds,

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Speaker 1: and boy was it a doozy. There was just a

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Speaker 1: lot of back and forth from this hearing so much

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Speaker 1: good stuff to talk about. Brandon Gill, recent guest here

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Speaker 1: on the Josh Hammer Show, Connors and Brandy Gill going

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Speaker 1: absolutely scorched earth on Jack Smith. A lot of absolute

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Speaker 1: fire in that exchange from Congressman Gill, Congressman ship Roy,

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith was doing as a result of his January

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Speaker 1: sixth probe, which is very closely tied to the still

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Speaker 1: ongoing extent of our attempt to learn more about Arctic frost,

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Speaker 1: which again was this January sixth related fish nets, this

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Speaker 1: to figure out who was involved in any extent whatsoever

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Speaker 1: when it comes to January sixth, the worst day in

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Speaker 1: the history of humanity and events, Congressman Ship Roy, much

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Speaker 1: like his former boss and his fellow Texan Ted Cruz,

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Speaker 1: recently found out that his phone records were apparently subpoena

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Speaker 1: As a result of this, Jack Smith, Merri Garland, doj

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Speaker 1: Arctic Frost, hullablu. Here was Congressman ship Roy grilling Jacksmith? Boy?

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Speaker 1: Was he animated? Go ahead and watch this one?

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Speaker 2: Is this the complete list right here? Let me ask

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Speaker 2: you this, Am I on this list? Did you target

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Speaker 2: my records and subpoena my phone tool records?

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Speaker 3: My understanding is your records were subpoenaed by prosecutors before

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Speaker 3: I became Special counsel.

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Speaker 2: Well's Stafford put this up on the screen. Thankful for

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Speaker 2: the great staff who discovered the email where I learned

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Speaker 2: for the first time a few weeks ago, did my

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Speaker 2: phone records were indeed targeted? We called AT and T

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Speaker 2: and we've learned that they were given to the Department

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Speaker 2: of Justice, as this email indicates, because I had been

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Speaker 2: in communication with Scott Perry. What are my colleagues here

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Speaker 2: in Congress who literally had his phone taken from him

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Speaker 2: in front of his family, and of course that we've

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Speaker 2: already talked about in this document. It talks about you

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Speaker 2: could be in violation the privilege by even obtaining and

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Speaker 2: possessing this information if the member objected to the disclosure.

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Speaker 2: This happened four years ago, in May of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: and I couldn't object because I didn't know. I didn't

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Speaker 1: And Chip Roy actually went on and on in this exchange,

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Speaker 1: and he's obviously anime and as he should be, both

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Speaker 1: fat that he was caught up in this outrageous Arctic

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Speaker 1: frost drage. Another amazing point that comic Manroy mede in

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Speaker 1: that exchange was he noted that Jack Smith, you were

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Speaker 1: actually disqualified. You were disqualified from the Florida case by

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Speaker 1: Judge Aileen Cannon. His appeal never ended up materialized when

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Speaker 1: the Trump nominated Lindsay Halligan in Virginia. She was also

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Speaker 1: ruled she was incorrectly ruled, but she was ruled nonetheless

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Speaker 1: clock right now. The weeds are not part of our

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Speaker 1: that a prosecutor who continues to sign his or her

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Speaker 1: name in court filings after a disqualification order should face

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Speaker 1: disciplinary action or disbarment. And as chip Roy said, the

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith, isn't that like, bro isn't it literally exactly

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Speaker 1: what you did? And Jack Smith had no answer whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Congressman Brandon Gil, Chiproy's colleague from the text

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Speaker 1: Republican delegation, and boy, Congressman Gil really was just letting

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Speaker 1: it up. Yet again. Let's go ahead and ask you

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Speaker 1: watch a clip of Brandon Gill just ripping into Jacksmith.

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Speaker 4: How many days after Kevin McCarthy was sworn in his

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Speaker 4: speaker did you subpoena his records?

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Speaker 3: I don't recall, but those two things had nothing.

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Speaker 4: It was sixteen days after becoming the highest ranking Republican

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Speaker 4: in the House of Representatives, usubpoenaed his toll records. Do

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Speaker 4: you agree that that might reasonably be considered a violation

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Speaker 4: of the speech of debate clause?

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Speaker 3: I do not, and I want to be clear that

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Speaker 3: the toll we.

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Speaker 4: Were collecting month's worth of phone data on the Republican

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Speaker 4: Speaker of the House, the leader of the opposition, right

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Speaker 4: after he got sworn in as speaker, all around the

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Speaker 4: time of a major vote. That sounds like a flagrant

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Speaker 4: violation of the speech or debate clause to me, and

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Speaker 4: I think most people agree with me. And Speaker McCarthy

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Speaker 4: had no recourse, did he, because you issued a non

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Speaker 4: disclosure order ensuring that neither he nor any of the

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Speaker 4: American people knew about the subpoenas.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: The toll record, the non content toll record subpoena is

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Speaker 3: we did secure non disclosure orders for those subpoenas. You did.

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Speaker 4: And let me ask you, mister Smith, at the time

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Speaker 4: you secured those non disclosure orders, was Speaker McCarthy a

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Speaker 4: flight risk?

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Speaker 3: The non disclosure order was based on concerns about it.

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Speaker 4: Was Speaker McCarthy a flight she was not all right?

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Speaker 1: So just brutal stuff there again, subpeding the opposition party

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Speaker 1: Speaker of the House. I mean, who does Jacksmith frankly

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Speaker 1: house legal analyst Ellie Honig, who actually herself conceded on

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Speaker 1: to rush these prosecutions prior to the election. Let's go

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Speaker 1: ahead and fire this one on from CNN to your.

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Speaker 5: Question, Brianna, the last congressman we saw point brought up

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Speaker 5: the fact that Jack Smith demanded a trial date four

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Speaker 5: months out, five months out in a case involving thirteen

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Speaker 5: million pages of documents. There is no defense layer in

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Speaker 5: the country who can constitutionally prepare for trial and defend

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Speaker 5: his client on that short of time frame. And the

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Speaker 5: implication was you were rushing to get this in before

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Speaker 5: the twenty twenty four election. Jacksmith did not defend himself,

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Speaker 5: by the way, he didn't say a word about that,

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Speaker 5: which I found straight. Yeah, it's true, right, it's true exactly,

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Speaker 5: and before the election exactly. And Jacksmith has always maintained

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Speaker 5: this veneer that he never thought about the election. Of

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Speaker 5: course he did. Why would you demand such a quick

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Speaker 5: trial day?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the jig is up. The jig is up, Jack,

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Speaker 1: That's really what we're getting at here. The jig is

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Speaker 1: just totally up. You've been exposed for what many of

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Speaker 1: us knew. You were all along a complete and utter

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Speaker 1: partisan hack, the front facing part of the Biden Garland

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Speaker 1: Democrat law fair phalanx, taking us to the rudeous brink

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Speaker 1: of tinpot Latin American dictatorship sub Saharan Africa. Incarcerate, prosecute,

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Speaker 1: and destroy your political opponents under the quote unquote rule

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Speaker 1: of law by any means necessary. Jack Smith, if he

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Speaker 1: had any if he had any sense of decency, any

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Speaker 1: sense of shame, would hide his head in a bag

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Speaker 1: for the rest of his adult's life. Frankly, he should

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Speaker 1: go back to Holland, which memory serves where he actually

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Speaker 1: came back the United States from he was living in Europe.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable stuff. So now what now?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: I want to see charges filed. I want to see

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Speaker 1: investigations further and charge just filed. I want to know,

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Speaker 1: and I think most American voters want to know the

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Speaker 1: exact extent of the collusion between Jack Smith, Fannie Willis,

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Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg, and potentially others. Maybe it's James who knows.

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Speaker 1: Let's see where the inquiry leads. There are statutes on

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Speaker 1: the book for this. There's a criminal Statute eighteen US Code,

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Speaker 1: Section two forty one, a criminal conspiracy against rights where

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Speaker 1: you conspire to deny the constitutional rights of others. Well,

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Speaker 1: Who do we have here who we are letting in

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Speaker 1: to affect our policymakers and affect all the levers of

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Speaker 1: power in Washington, See and so forth. It certainly affects culture,

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Speaker 1: everything down from language to day to day customers, mannerisms,

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Speaker 1: how we think about American civics, American sense of self,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. And most importantly, it gets the very nature

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Speaker 1: of who we are. Who is the we, the people

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Speaker 1: that are sovereign in this country per the preamble of

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Speaker 1: the United States Constitution. So I care a lot about immigration,

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Speaker 1: and I've been following the Trump ministrations immigration efforts since

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Speaker 1: day one. I olthough we would kind of just pause

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Speaker 1: and take stock a little bit of how things are

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Speaker 1: going thus far for the Trump miministration when it comes

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Speaker 1: to an immigration perspective. And I started thinking about this

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Speaker 1: a lot because just a truly delectable headline, a delectable

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Speaker 1: headline that I saw just with pastcal days, which is

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Speaker 1: that Mahmu Koldili. You remember him, the utter miscreant, the malcontent,

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Speaker 1: the former Columbia University graduate student there of some sort

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Speaker 1: of Syrian background who became just a total total stooge

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Speaker 1: of the of the pro Hamas Kafia clad cause there,

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Speaker 1: known primarily for his shrieking about the Zionists and the Jews,

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Speaker 1: and the this and the that there. The Trump minstration

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Speaker 1: has been trying to deport this guy for almost a

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Speaker 1: year now, which, by the way, first thing is note insane, insane.

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Speaker 1: These are political questions. For two centuries the United States,

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Speaker 1: the courts did not get involved when it comes in

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Speaker 1: immigration law. There's a long standing doctrine in federal courts

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Speaker 1: known as the plenary power doctrine, which essentially means that

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Speaker 1: the political branches Article on in the Congress and Article

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Speaker 1: two the executive branch have cleinaries that that is to say,

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Speaker 1: absolute power and when it comes to the ability and

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Speaker 1: the discretion, so if they are so inclined to an

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Speaker 1: extent to enforce this nation's immigration laws. That's why, properly speaking,

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Speaker 1: I've been arguing for a long time that this actually

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Speaker 1: I don't think really such thing as guaranteed Article three

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Speaker 1: judicial review when it comes to immigration enforcement. Legislation of

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Speaker 1: congressponds to legislation on top of that, and say, okay,

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Speaker 1: the court should have I say, here, that's their progative.

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Speaker 1: They're allowed to legislate in that arena there, that's not

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Speaker 1: constitutionally required. In fact, the very first time, the very

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Speaker 1: first time I love this fact, the very first time

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Speaker 1: that the United States Supreme Court ever ever said that

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Speaker 1: a federal immigration statute was unconstitutional. It came in two

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Speaker 1: thy eighteen, the first Trump term, in a case called

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Speaker 1: Sessions versus Demaya, which is a constitutional void for Vaguans statute.

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Speaker 1: It was actually really our first indication that Neil gors

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Speaker 1: sister is going to go a little wobbly when it

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Speaker 1: came to legal aliens, and eventually we learned to have

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Speaker 1: been the boss dot case transgenderism. Neither here nor there

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Speaker 1: anyway in saying that the courts have been as involved

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Speaker 1: as they are. The immigration issue is really ground zero

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Speaker 1: of what I refer to as the anti Trump digital insurrection.

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Speaker 1: But they've been trying so hard. Mark Rubio was talking

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Speaker 1: a lot in those early months about mach mu Khalil,

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Speaker 1: who is the embodiment, the embodiment of someone who should

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Speaker 1: not be here. Is here on a visa. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter whether it's a green card, whether it's a Taurus visa.

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Speaker 1: Who cares, You're not a citizen. You're here as legal alien,

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Speaker 1: and you are cheering on the US recognized foreign terrorist organizations.

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Speaker 1: I got news for you buddy out, like literally leave,

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Speaker 1: get the heck out of here. And people say due process,

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Speaker 1: due process. No, that's not how it works. If you

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Speaker 1: are an alien, I would argue legal or illegal. There's

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Speaker 1: a case in nineteen fifty three at the Upreme Court,

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Speaker 1: a case called Shaughnessy, Justice Robert Jackson. Just Robert Jackson,

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Speaker 1: by the way, who was known as a champion of

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Speaker 1: due process, who was the prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials

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Speaker 1: against the Nazis there, this guy is no kind of

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Speaker 1: anti due process slouch, so he writes in this immigration

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Speaker 1: case called Shaughnessy versus the United States ex. Real Mese

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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty three, Justice Robert Jackson writes, quote due process.

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Speaker 1: It does not invest any alien with the right to

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Speaker 1: enter the United States, nor confer on those admitted the

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Speaker 1: right to remain against the national will. You see that

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Speaker 1: the national will when the national will meaning we the people.

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Speaker 1: There's that thing again, when we the people say Sayonara, sucker,

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Speaker 1: you're out of there now. If Congress wants to provide

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Speaker 1: additional additional due process appard, if Congress wants to say

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Speaker 1: that you have a guaranteed Article three, Federal Court hearing

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Speaker 1: to contest a deportation proceeding. I guess they're within their

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Speaker 1: rights to do that. That would be utterly asinine. I

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Speaker 1: have no idea why in the world they would ever

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Speaker 1: do such a thing. But we the people do fundamentally

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Speaker 1: call the shots here when it comes to immigration. So

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Speaker 1: apparently Mack Mukhalil, he gets back to where we start here,

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Speaker 1: he's finally going. He's going all the way to Algeria.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely just love this. So Tristia McLoughlin, who is

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Speaker 1: the DHS Assistant Secretary of Public Affairs, said about Mack

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Speaker 1: muccleil quote, it looks like he'll go to Algeria. That's

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Speaker 1: what the thought is right now. So it looks like

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Speaker 1: he will probably go to Algeria. I just love this.

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Speaker 1: I can't help a smile. Hopefully there will be much

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Speaker 1: much more to come, the so called Maryland man, Kilmar

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Speaker 1: Abrigo Garcia. Hopefully that guy leaves and never comes back.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully all these other pro Hamas freaks, these Cathia Clyde radicals,

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Speaker 1: the people on the campuses, the people in Yearborn, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: wherever you are, if you are here and you support

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Speaker 1: foreign terrorist organizations, you are here against the national will

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Speaker 1: by definition, and you should go. You should leave, and

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Speaker 1: if you don't leave, then we will force your hand.

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Speaker 1: More generally speaking, it's worth noting that this is the

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Speaker 1: first year in a very very long time now the

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Speaker 1: number of immigrants living in the United States is actually declining.

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Speaker 1: So after fifty years of essentially year in, year out

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Speaker 1: immigrant growth, by June twenty twenty five, last summer, so

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Speaker 1: America's immigrant population had decreased by more than a million.

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Speaker 1: So then you kind of fast forward to current data,

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Speaker 1: and we've had a substantially substantial decline in the percentage

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Speaker 1: of immigrants who are here. So a lot of it

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Speaker 1: actually is self deportation. A lot of it really is

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Speaker 1: coming through this CBP one app The administration is essentially

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Speaker 1: offering a fee if you want to go ahead and

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Speaker 1: voluntarily self deport DHS saying in a press release of

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Speaker 1: about a month ago that six hundred and five thousand

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Speaker 1: people overall have been deported since inauguration day last January twentieth.

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Speaker 1: A fascinating poll that I saw New York Times Sienna Politics,

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Speaker 1: which I saw a courtesy of Ryan Gradusky, a blogger

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Speaker 1: who is very, very good on these issues. So New

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Speaker 1: York Times Sanna poll essentially asked, do you support or

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Speaker 1: oppose Donald Trump's Administration's his administrations and deportation of illegal aliens.

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Speaker 1: So the overall breakdown is you have fifty to forty

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Speaker 1: seven net approval, which, by the way, I mean, how

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Speaker 1: many times the media try to bamboozle you and convince

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Speaker 1: you of the contrary. How many times have you heard

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Speaker 1: that Trump's immigration policy is a net loser, that He's

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Speaker 1: going to totally lose it with women and Hispanics? Whatever, No,

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Speaker 1: the American people support this narrowly, but it's a fifty

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Speaker 1: to forty seven issue. Men deeply supported by nineteen points,

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Speaker 1: Women slubly unsupportive, White voters supported by eleven points. Hispanics,

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Speaker 1: by the way, still forty two percent support. It's bare

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Speaker 1: this policy, these policies are barely underwater with Hispanics. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying it. I'm not buying the polling hysteria

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Speaker 1: on this really really whatsoever. Now, if you look further

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Speaker 1: down the cross tabs in this particular New York Times

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Speaker 1: sian Ne pol, you will see that some of these

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Speaker 1: some of these cross tabs have swung back to the

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Speaker 1: median from twenty twenty four to twenty twenty four, this

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Speaker 1: great realignment election where Don from only loses Hispanic voters

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Speaker 1: by three points, competes very nicely with female voters, with women,

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Speaker 1: a younger voters, etc. Or there So some of it

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Speaker 1: is regretting to the mean a little bit. Republicans very

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Speaker 1: much should keep an eye on that. But the most

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Speaker 1: important point is this immigration has to be enforced, whether

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Speaker 1: it is in Minneapolis with ice, whether it is in Dearborn, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: whether it is pertaining to mach Mu Khalil in or

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Speaker 1: around the Columbia University campus in Morning Slide Heights in

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Speaker 1: New York City. Immigration law must be enforced. One because

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Speaker 1: it's the law, and federal law is supreme this country,

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Speaker 1: both as a basic moral matter and legally under Article

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Speaker 1: six of the Constitution. But immigration law must be enforced

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Speaker 1: additionally for the very simple reason that it's really important,

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Speaker 1: that is really really important that we know who is

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Speaker 1: in the country and who is not. We don't even know.

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Speaker 1: We literally do not know how many illegal aliens are

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Speaker 1: currently in this country. I've seen estimates as high as

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Speaker 1: just eight million. That just Joe Biden let in When

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Speaker 1: I sat down with Larry Elder out in California earlier

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Speaker 1: this week on air, Larry said that he'ser potentially as

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Speaker 1: high as thirty million, potentially if memory sort of. I think

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Speaker 1: that's what Larry Elder said. I mean, we literally do

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Speaker 1: not know, but we should because we're a people, and

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Speaker 1: we're a country, and we have borders, and we're a nation,

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Speaker 1: and you have to know who is here and who

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Speaker 1: is not here for every possible reason, and for crime,

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Speaker 1: for security, for the economy, for benefits, for this. So

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Speaker 1: continue the self deportations, with the CBP one app, get

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Speaker 1: e verified, get workforce enforcement, and the biometric visa fraud,

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Speaker 1: and get these bumps the heck out of there. The

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Speaker 1: polling is not as bad as media says. In fact,

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Speaker 1: in many ways it's actually good. Stay the course, mister President,

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Speaker 1: Stay with us. We'll be right back. The World Economic

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Speaker 1: Forum at Davos, the great globalist junket, coming to an

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Speaker 1: end on Friday, January twenty third. A lot of the

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Speaker 1: talk was about Greenland. It seems, as we discuss on

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Speaker 1: Thursday Show, it seems that Donald Trump came to something

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Speaker 1: of an agreement with NATO with Marcrucci the General Secretary

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Speaker 1: of NATO, perhaps with the Kingdom of Denmark as well.

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Speaker 1: We are still waiting for some of those details to materialize,

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Speaker 1: but it appears that at a bare minimum, the United

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Speaker 1: States will have increased access to Greenlands. Personally, personally, if

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Speaker 1: I'm putting my cards on the table, I actually support

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Speaker 1: going further. I hope that an actual deal can be

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Speaker 1: reached for the United States to actually formally acquire Greenlands

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Speaker 1: as much as we have acquired any number of territories

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Speaker 1: in American history. As I mentioned, we have a history

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Speaker 1: actually acquiring territory just from the Danes. The US Virgin

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Speaker 1: Island stay were formerly known as the Danish West Indies

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Speaker 1: prior to the US purchasing them via a treaty in

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen. We will see where that goes. But other

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Speaker 1: news coming out of Davos we saw on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: of the junket we saw the formal unveiling of Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's Board of Peace. You've been talking a lot about

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Speaker 1: this Board of Peace, which is basically his vision. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a little unclearfying what exactly the vision is. So

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Speaker 1: the border piece is an international conglomerates, whereas a lot

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Speaker 1: of nations involved there, and a lot of folks are

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Speaker 1: saying that this looks like it has potential to rival

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Speaker 1: the Nine Nations. Donald Trump not actually putting down those rumors.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he's actually been fed in the flames potentially

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Speaker 1: trying to get a rival to the Nine Nations there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Nine Nations is just an absolute wretched

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Speaker 1: hive of scum and villainy, to use the Star Wars analogy,

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Speaker 1: and it really should go the way of the Dodo

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Speaker 1: Perd sooner rather than later. So the etend is an

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Speaker 1: attempt to phase out the UN with some good old

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Speaker 1: fashioned American leadership that I find myself pretty supportive of it.

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Speaker 1: Now they're starting, they're starting this Board of Peace thing

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Speaker 1: in Gaza. The first task, per Donald Trump and per

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Speaker 1: Steve Whitkoff, Jared Kusner and the others who are involved

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Speaker 1: with the border piece, the first task is to demilitarize

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Speaker 1: and rebuild Gosa, which, to put them mildly easier easier

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Speaker 1: set than time. Now, a number of countries have already

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Speaker 1: announced that they are signing on to this Board of

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Speaker 1: Peace initiative from Donald Trump, a lot of Arab countries.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to read through some of them. Here

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Speaker 1: we have Bahrain, Morocco, you have Argentina and Drhagimla. You

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Speaker 1: have Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Hungary, Indonesia, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Costvo, Pakistan, Paraguay, Kattar,

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the uae Uzbekistan and Mongolia. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of countries, frankly, a lot of Muslim and or

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Speaker 1: Arab countries. You will notice that a lot of the

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Speaker 1: countries that are not signing up thus far are actually

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Speaker 1: a lot of the European powers, right, So France, Germany,

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Speaker 1: the UK are not getting involved thus far. They are

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Speaker 1: upset that Russia, frankly, has been invited that essentially their region.

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Speaker 1: They're also just a little upset over Donald Trump's shall

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Speaker 1: we say, aggressive negotiations when it comes to his attempts

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Speaker 1: to acquire greenlands for the United States. So the traditional

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Speaker 1: European powers are not there. Neither is Canada. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump having a little bit of back and forth

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Speaker 1: on Thursday evening with Mark Karney essentially disinviting him from

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Speaker 1: joining there. So this this somewhat funny and also somewhat

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Speaker 1: perplexing and bemusing tension between the United States and our

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Speaker 1: dubiously friendly northerly neighbors continues. So Dnald Trump obviously a

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Speaker 1: big fan of this board. And here was President Trump

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Speaker 1: in Davos this week talking about the Board of Peace

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Speaker 1: that he has just now launched.

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Speaker 6: We have a lot of great people that want to join.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be the most prestigious board ever formed.

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Speaker 6: The President is a member. We have major countries and

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Speaker 6: some need parliamentary approval, but for the most part, everybody

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Speaker 6: wants to be on. I have a little bit of

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Speaker 6: the opposite problem. People want to be on and we

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Speaker 6: didn't ask them. They want to get on, but we'll

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Speaker 6: look at the countries. So we're going to have it.

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Speaker 6: I think it's the greatest board ever formed. And we

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Speaker 6: call it the Board a piece. That's what it is,

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Speaker 6: all right.

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Speaker 1: So classic Trumpian hyperbole, bragadoshia, the greatest board ever formed. Okay,

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Speaker 1: your minelage may vary, mister President, but it's start. I suppose,

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Speaker 1: by the way, real quick he was meeting there, as

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Speaker 1: you saw in the video with President l CCI of Egypt.

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Speaker 1: I wish that the United States under President Trump was

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Speaker 1: exerting more pressure on Egypt than we currently are. Egypt

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Speaker 1: holds the cards to a lot of these thorny issues

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Speaker 1: currently affecting the Middle East and beyond. Egypt is the

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Speaker 1: only country other than Israel that has a land border

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Speaker 1: with Gaza. And more to the point, Egypt is the

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Speaker 1: second largest recipients, the second large recipients of the United

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Speaker 1: States foreign aid on a year in year basis. The

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Speaker 1: only country higher again is is Israel. So Egypt gets

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Speaker 1: a lot of money for various reasons that mostly go

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Speaker 1: back to the history of nineteen seventies nineteen eighties. Neither

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Speaker 1: here nor there for present purposes. The point is that

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Speaker 1: the US has a ton of leverage, a ton of

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Speaker 1: leverage on Egypt if it inclines to use it there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not entirely sure that we're actually getting out

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Speaker 1: of that relationship what we should be getting there now.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of questions about this whole border piece,

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Speaker 1: which again is starting in Gaza. I mentioned the countries

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Speaker 1: that have signed up for it. You'll notice that Katar

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Speaker 1: and Turkey are two of them. This is emerging as

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Speaker 1: something of a sour point of a point of disagreements

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Speaker 1: between President Donald Trump and Prime Minister bb Netanyahu Netiyah,

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Speaker 1: who has been adamant he's not saying that no Arab

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Speaker 1: countries can't be involved. I think he has probably has

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Speaker 1: no problem of fact, I guess with Bahrain, the UAE,

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Speaker 1: probably even Saudi Arabia being involved here when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the post Gaza demilitarization and reconstruction. But Netilla who

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Speaker 1: has stridently, stridently objected to Katar in Turkey in particular

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Speaker 1: being involved because Katar under the ruling Altani family and

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Speaker 1: Turkey under their quarter century long now strong men recip

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Speaker 1: type Erdawa. They are massive sponsors and bank rollers of

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Speaker 1: the Muzzi Brotherhood and huge sponsors of Hamas, the specific

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Speaker 1: Palisane Arab offshoot of the International Brotherhood. And Netiao has

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Speaker 1: made very clear that he does not intend to allow

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Speaker 1: Katar and Turkey into the Gaza strip. So something here's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to happen. I mean Donald Trump's talking, I

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Speaker 1: mean they're on the list, they are literally on the list.

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Speaker 1: Katar in Turkey and Natiyah was saying that they can't

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Speaker 1: be involved there. And again I mentioned that Egypt controls

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Speaker 1: one corridor into Gaza. They don't really do much with

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Speaker 1: that corridor, but Israel holds most of the keys to

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Speaker 1: Gaza there, So how that's going to play out, especially

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Speaker 1: coming after this extremely warm visit the natsignat who just

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Speaker 1: had to Trump in Florida in late December through New

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Speaker 1: Year's Eve. Especially also given the backdrop, given the backdrop

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Speaker 1: of the whole Iran the whole Iran confrogation. Let's not

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Speaker 1: forget that. Donald Trump also just over the past day

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Speaker 1: or so threatens yet again it said that an armada

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Speaker 1: and armada which is an old school term for a

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Speaker 1: very very big naval and air demonstration of military superiority

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Speaker 1: and armada is headed to the Persian Gulf. We already

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Speaker 1: have a ton of assets there. The US is Abraham Lincoln.

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Speaker 1: This aircraft carry strike group has been headed towards the

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Speaker 1: Gulf from the South China state. Just to reiterate my

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Speaker 1: stance on the Iran issue right now, I would not

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Speaker 1: have encouraged Donald Trump to draw the red line that

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Speaker 1: he drew, But he drew a very clear red line

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Speaker 1: against the Iranians slaughtering their own people, and they stomped

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Speaker 1: all over the bread line. So it is my contention

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Speaker 1: I've been arguing for some time now that the red

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Speaker 1: line must now be enforced. I can't say who I

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Speaker 1: heard this from, but I did hear from a somewhat

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Speaker 1: reliable source that potentially could see the President acting on

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Speaker 1: that as soon as this weekend. Again, we'll see if

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Speaker 1: that transpires, but stay tuned for that now. At the

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Speaker 1: same time, the focus of this border piece is not

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Speaker 1: just Iran, but is really just Gaza. Gaza is their

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Speaker 1: number one initiative. In fact, Mark Rubia said about the

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Speaker 1: border piece quote, we are here today because the President

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Speaker 1: Trump's vision. If we go back just a few months ago,

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Speaker 1: people thought that what was happening in Gaza was impossible

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Speaker 1: to solve. No one thought that we would ever come

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Speaker 1: to a resolution without more fighting and more bloodshed. So

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Speaker 1: the focus really is on in Gaza. And my big

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Speaker 1: point when it comes to Gaza in particular is this,

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Speaker 1: The problem with Gaza is the people of Gaza. I've

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Speaker 1: heard a lot of shatter this week. There are these

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Speaker 1: kind of statements of Jared Kushner talking about he's going

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Speaker 1: to go in with this Kushner family real estate expertise

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Speaker 1: and try to rebuild Gaza. I mean, let's try to

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Speaker 1: get like the four seasons and conmunis and you know,

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Speaker 1: the Ritz Carlton and Gaza City. And I'm being a

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Speaker 1: little facetious here, but that's more or less what they're saying.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm trying to think this through. Is

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Speaker 1: that possible when like you have these hotels and condos

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Speaker 1: whatever over hundreds and hundreds of miles of terror tunnels,

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Speaker 1: the Hamas terror tunnel. I mean, how's that going to

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Speaker 1: go away? But the bigger point is even this, what

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Speaker 1: about the radicalized Arabs in Gaza, all one and a half,

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Speaker 1: the two million, whatever the exact population is. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: what are you going to do with them? You're going

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Speaker 1: to try to denazify them after kind of like what

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Speaker 1: we did to the Germans after World War two? Good luck?

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Speaker 1: Good luck? Radical Islam is quite a beast. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure that denotification of this incredibly radicalized jihad, terror supporting organization,

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Speaker 1: of this population that supports Hamas palacining as Lama Chihad

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Speaker 1: al Kaita isis these people the poll in favor of

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Speaker 1: suicide bombings, all these terrible forms of murders jihad, I'm

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Speaker 1: not un telling sure how that's gonna happen. Frankly. So look,

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I would love this to succeed.

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Speaker 1: Everyone wants to see Gaza be made great again, let's

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Speaker 1: call it. Everyone wants that. I'm genuinely not sure exactly

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Speaker 1: how we get from point A to point B. I'm

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Speaker 1: not telling sure, Frankly, that's Steve whick caff and Jack

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Speaker 1: Kushner know either, But I certainly know that I'm wishing

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Speaker 1: them the best of luck again. As long as katarn

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Speaker 1: Turkey guys really just cannot be involved here. That is

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Speaker 1: such a freaking insult. Hope you, Jeordy. Today's show folks,

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Speaker 1: have a wonderful evening and a great weekend. Josh Hammer

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Speaker 1: signing off, we will see you on Monday. The Josh

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