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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome to the Fireside Chat. I'm Dennis Prager.
Speaker 1: This is number one hundred and this is number one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two. That's a lot. And we haven't
Speaker 1: missed a week in one hundred and seventy two weeks.
Speaker 1: That is that right, That's what's amazing. Well, how do
Speaker 1: I explain this to those of you who are new
Speaker 1: to me. It's just a chance to completely spontaneously offer
Speaker 1: you some thoughts about life, about America, about a whole
Speaker 1: host of issues, and take your questions. And that's really
Speaker 1: what it's about. It is ninety nine percent unrehearsed. So
Speaker 1: you'll say, what is the one percent? The one percent
Speaker 1: is I do give thought to what I will open
Speaker 1: up talking about. That's true. I do. Today's talk. Today's
Speaker 1: opening is so important that I hope number one seventy
Speaker 1: two will go viral. That's how important I think subject is.
Speaker 1: So I want to explain to you what I think
Speaker 1: is one of the two or three most important things
Speaker 1: people have clear about life in order to understand life
Speaker 1: and to have wisdom, which is the same thing as
Speaker 1: understand life. Human nature is not basically good. I've talked
Speaker 1: about this on many occasions. I have a prayer you
Speaker 1: video on it. People don't quite understand why it's as
Speaker 1: important as I know it is, and I won't give
Speaker 1: you all the reasons. It's so important to understand how
Speaker 1: profoundly flawed human nature is. I want to make something clear.
Speaker 1: There is good in human nature. There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: Otherwise you couldn't explain any goodness. There is goodness on earth.
Speaker 1: After all, there are people who are good. They work
Speaker 1: on themselves and they work on their nature, or in
Speaker 1: some cases they're just luckily born with a really good
Speaker 1: nature that is not the usual flawed nature. But the
Speaker 1: reason I'm raising it today is that to understand what
Speaker 1: is happening in America today, this is the key thing
Speaker 1: to understand. So I'll go to the conclusion and then
Speaker 1: I'll work backwards. If you understand how flawed human nature is,
Speaker 1: you will understand what a moral achievement America is. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's the key to what I want you to understand today.
Speaker 1: See if you have really mundane ingredients and make a
Speaker 1: terrific meal out of it, that's a big achievement. If
Speaker 1: you have spectacular ingredients, it's not as big an achievement.
Speaker 1: Given the ingredients of human and nature, what America baked
Speaker 1: itself into, if you will cooked itself into, is an
Speaker 1: astonishing achievement. But if you think people are basically good,
Speaker 1: which a lot of people, especially the well educated, because
Speaker 1: they don't understand much, and unfortunately I mean that literally,
Speaker 1: they think, well, human nature is good, So of course
Speaker 1: it's astonishing how terrible America is. If you start out
Speaker 1: with the appreciation of the raw material, then you marvel
Speaker 1: at how good America became. Of course, America has bad
Speaker 1: aspects to it, of course it does. How could it
Speaker 1: not look at the raw material human beings? Nation, what country,
Speaker 1: what tribe, what group has not had a profoundly flawed society.
Speaker 1: That's why, among other things, you have to compare America
Speaker 1: to other places. Who made us free? A place for
Speaker 1: as many people from as many backgrounds. Nobody not to
Speaker 1: say that all Americans are good. A lot of Americans
Speaker 1: are awful, in fact, more today than perhaps ever before
Speaker 1: in some ways, which is a very sad thing for
Speaker 1: me to say, because a very painful subject. But given
Speaker 1: again this raw material, it is astonishing what we made here,
Speaker 1: what Americans made here. So let me deal with this
Speaker 1: raw material. Very rarely I use notes, but there are
Speaker 1: so many lousy parts to human nature. I had to
Speaker 1: make a list of some of them. This is not
Speaker 1: an exhaustive list, and it's not in any order of importance.
Speaker 1: When you realize what people want, what animal mates them,
Speaker 1: and then you realize that this place has been pretty
Speaker 1: darn good with all its flaws. The flaws are completely understandable.
Speaker 1: The good parts are a riddle. The freedom, the opportunity,
Speaker 1: the working through the terrible origins that had racism in them.
Speaker 1: That is, it's an amazing achievement given human nature. So
Speaker 1: here are some parts of human nature I thought i'd
Speaker 1: share with you that are, shall we say difficult, no
Speaker 1: order of importance. A vast number of people, for example,
Speaker 1: yearn for power. Power. The desire to have power over
Speaker 1: other people is apparently very widespread. It is especially true
Speaker 1: in many men. And I must admit I have a
Speaker 1: flaw nature like anybody else. This is not one of
Speaker 1: my built in flaws. There is zero, zero desire in
Speaker 1: me to have power over anybody else. I don't I
Speaker 1: can't even I know it's there, I know how widespread
Speaker 1: it is, but I must tell you I have no
Speaker 1: relationship to it. It's one of the reasons I didn't
Speaker 1: run for office. It's one of the reasons I'm conservative.
Speaker 1: I want I don't want anybody that power over me either.
Speaker 1: I want me to have power over me. I want
Speaker 1: my moral co to have power over me. I want
Speaker 1: God to have power over me. And that's it. So
Speaker 1: I don't want to have power over anybody else. And that,
Speaker 1: by the way, that was the American founding dream, small government,
Speaker 1: so that you can develop individually to the best of
Speaker 1: your ability, without the most universal thing in the world
Speaker 1: strong government, princes, kings, queen, emperors, other governments, dictators, tyrannies.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. The human norm has been
Speaker 1: for the state to have power over the individual. America
Speaker 1: was founded to reduce the power of the state. There
Speaker 1: is no other country in the world founded on the
Speaker 1: basis of limited government. You know how this alone ran
Speaker 1: against human nature. People want power. That's why the America
Speaker 1: is divided into three co equal branches, the Presidency, the Congress,
Speaker 1: and the Supreme Court, because they didn't trust humans with power.
Speaker 1: Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. It's a famous
Speaker 1: statement by the British Lord Acton So that alone, it
Speaker 1: is astonishing how much freedom we made in America, not
Speaker 1: we Americans before me. Given the yearning for power number two,
Speaker 1: I could just spend time on that yearning for fame
Speaker 1: and recognition. So many people want to be famous, and
Speaker 1: so many people want recognition. That's part that's a reason
Speaker 1: so many people want to be politicians. Some politicians are
Speaker 1: in it for idealistic reasons. Most are in it because,
Speaker 1: you know, get you get a lot of fame if
Speaker 1: you're a senator. Just to give an example, and recognition.
Speaker 1: People ache for recognition. People. Half the people in Hollywood
Speaker 1: didn't enter it just because they love acting. If they
Speaker 1: just loved acting, they'd have joined a Shakespeare group in Boise, Idaho.
Speaker 1: But they want to have their name on a movie theater.
Speaker 1: They want to get an Academy award. Remember why do
Speaker 1: they so often say when they do get an Academy award? Everything? Okay, Feller,
Speaker 1: See when I talk about fame and recognition, he perkscept, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, little humility? Never heard of dog? So
Speaker 1: this is a massive desire. I want to be known.
Speaker 1: When I talk to kids, and I mean kids, I
Speaker 1: mean eighth graders. So what do you want to be
Speaker 1: when you grow up? So many answer famous. That's what
Speaker 1: you want to be is famous. That's depressing to me
Speaker 1: because then, by the way, I ask them, why would
Speaker 1: you like to be famous for? Now? If the kids
Speaker 1: said a cure for cancer, okay, sounds good to me.
Speaker 1: They just want to be famous, so they say for anything,
Speaker 1: so I say anything, you want to be famous for
Speaker 1: most hamburgers eaten in a day or in two hours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And by the way, that's what we do have. The
Speaker 1: yearning for people. What is Instagram if not a desire
Speaker 1: for recognition and fame. This is a huge thing in
Speaker 1: the human condition. Another terribly flawed aspect. Now, look, everybody
Speaker 1: wants recognition for the good and the achievements they've had.
Speaker 1: That's normal, that's good, there's no I have no issue
Speaker 1: with that. But to seek recognition, to seek fame as
Speaker 1: an end, that's a very big problem, and it leads
Speaker 1: to corruption in government because the people are not there
Speaker 1: to serve you. They are there to serve their fame
Speaker 1: and recognition. Number three, a yearning to be important. That's
Speaker 1: related to the other one. This is a or I'll
Speaker 1: add to that, a yearning to think you are wonderful.
Speaker 1: The whole woke thing is that, Oh, look at me.
Speaker 1: Look at how anti racist I am. Look at how
Speaker 1: I am fighting transphobia. Look at how I am fighting homophobia.
Speaker 1: Look at how I am fighting islamophobia. Look at how
Speaker 1: I am fighting. And then you name the evil that
Speaker 1: you wish to fight, you feel great about yourself. But
Speaker 1: what if, in fact, there just isn't that much to fight.
Speaker 1: This country is the least racist, multi racial country in
Speaker 1: the history of the world. It's one thing to afford
Speaker 1: racism and Jim Crow and when slavery, But in the
Speaker 1: early part of the twenty first century, there's just not
Speaker 1: that much in America. I proved it in an article.
Speaker 1: I wrote proofs that there were so little racism in America.
Speaker 1: And I'll give you just one because I don't want
Speaker 1: to go through all of that list, and that is
Speaker 1: micro aggressions. Microaggressions proves how little racism there is. They
Speaker 1: have to invent it. So if you say there's only
Speaker 1: one race, the human race, the University of California's lists
Speaker 1: of microaggressions says, that's a racist. There's only one race
Speaker 1: is racist. It's the opposite of racism. So there's another
Speaker 1: reason that human nature can lead to a disintegration of society.
Speaker 1: The yearning to think you're terrific and important and famous
Speaker 1: and so on. Next, sex, you know, you read about
Speaker 1: a Jeffrey Epstein, and you read about all these people,
Speaker 1: all these men who have sexually harassed or charged with
Speaker 1: sexual harassment, and all the other aspects of people, where
Speaker 1: sex is a very powerful drive. According to Freud, it's
Speaker 1: the most powerful drive, and that could lead, and it does.
Speaker 1: It leads to a lot of terrible stuff. It has
Speaker 1: to be kept in check. But who teaches kids that
Speaker 1: you have to keep yourself in check? For all of
Speaker 1: my adult life, I have explained the difference between a
Speaker 1: religious education and a secular education. When I had my
Speaker 1: religious Jewish education through twelfth grade, half day in Hebrew,
Speaker 1: half day in English, very rigorous education in Judaism, and
Speaker 1: kids with Christianity the same thing. You learn the biggest
Speaker 1: battle in your life is with you, or as I
Speaker 1: always put it, I was taught that the biggest problem
Speaker 1: in Denis Prager's life is Dennis Prager. But not in
Speaker 1: secular schools, you learn that the biggest problem in your
Speaker 1: life is something outside of you, like America. So while
Speaker 1: the religious are battling themselves, the secular not all this
Speaker 1: is a generalization, are especially on the left, they're battling America,
Speaker 1: not themselves. Mixed lack of wisdom. We're not born wise,
Speaker 1: and without wisdom, all the good intentions in the world
Speaker 1: are useless. In fact, good intentions without wisdom usually leads
Speaker 1: to evil. What is it the The road to hell
Speaker 1: is paved with good intentions, that's it. Why is that
Speaker 1: because those people don't have wisdom, They just have good intentions.
Speaker 1: Good intentions without wisdom leads to hell. And we're leading
Speaker 1: America to hell today all these good intentions. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: here to fight racism. I'm here to fight all these phobias.
Speaker 1: I'm here to fight capitalism. That's not wise. Lack of
Speaker 1: courage is a very, very normative part of the human condition.
Speaker 1: Very few humans are born courageous. You have to want
Speaker 1: to be courageous to be courageous. It doesn't come naturally
Speaker 1: to almost anybody. Some people have it naturally, very few do.
Speaker 1: So therefore you have this herd mentality. And I will
Speaker 1: admit I wrote about this in a recent column The
Speaker 1: Good American, that's what it's called. And how few Americans
Speaker 1: are exhibiting courage today. Oh, you want to close down
Speaker 1: my business with the lockdown, Governor Newsom, go right ahead.
Speaker 1: We won't protest. Yes, I can no longer feed my
Speaker 1: family properly, but I'm going to let my restaurant die.
Speaker 1: I won't even open it up. Or people wearing masks
Speaker 1: outdoors when they're walking their dog. This is a herd mentality.
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you not to wear a mask indoors
Speaker 1: when you go to a restaurant or when you go
Speaker 1: to a store. No, but it's a little scary to
Speaker 1: watch people walking pretty much alone outdoors and wearing a mask.
Speaker 1: That's a herd mentality. That's not science. Oh, how's this one.
Speaker 1: People don't yearn to be free. People yearn to be
Speaker 1: taken care of. I've talked about that on occasion. Liberty
Speaker 1: is a value, not an instinct. I'm talking to you
Speaker 1: about all these built in flaws in human nature, and
Speaker 1: we still built America the way it is. The yearning
Speaker 1: for utopia. People really believe that you could make a
Speaker 1: place where there's no more inequality, and there's no more hatred,
Speaker 1: and there's no more there's no such thing as no more.
Speaker 1: That doesn't exist. We can lessen, we can improve, and
Speaker 1: we have, but you can't have a place with none
Speaker 1: of these things. It doesn't exist except in the imagination
Speaker 1: of PhDs. In gratitude. Oh God, that alone explains what's
Speaker 1: going on in America. Human beings are not grateful by nature.
Speaker 1: I have a simple proof. How many times have you
Speaker 1: been told when you were a kid, or did you
Speaker 1: tell your kids say thank you? If we were naturally grateful,
Speaker 1: why would we have to be told ten thousand times
Speaker 1: say thank you? Because it doesn't come naturally. Gratitude is
Speaker 1: a value, not an instinct. Ingratitude is normal, and that's
Speaker 1: what That's what the left has for America. They are
Speaker 1: not only ungrateful, they teach others to be ungrateful. I
Speaker 1: would say that if I had to define the average BA,
Speaker 1: masters or PhD, it's a degree in ingratitude. That's what
Speaker 1: you get at our schools today. How can we produce
Speaker 1: ungrateful people? And ungrateful people are miserable human beings, both
Speaker 1: in their in both senses of miserable, unhappy, and the
Speaker 1: way they treat other people. Ungrateful people are awful people,
Speaker 1: and our schools produce them in the millions. Oh. Finally,
Speaker 1: the psychological impediments to being a decent person, even all
Speaker 1: the built in then there's other stuff that the person
Speaker 1: who just has physiological issues, you know, psychological physiological issues,
Speaker 1: which prevents them from appreciating what they have. So it's
Speaker 1: incredibly hard to make a decent society with this raw material.
Speaker 1: So America is divided between left and right. The right
Speaker 1: knows how flawed human nature is and says, Wow, what
Speaker 1: an achievement America is. The left doesn't acknowledge how flawed
Speaker 1: human nature is and looks at it and goes, what
Speaker 1: a miserable society. Okay, that's important stuff. If I'm allowed
Speaker 1: to say that myself, we begin with your questions. Take
Speaker 1: it away.
Speaker 3: Hi, my name is Sophia Duco. I'm seventeen years old
Speaker 3: and from Newport Beach, California. So at least half Americans,
Speaker 3: some seventy four plus million people feel they were robbed
Speaker 3: or their constitutionally granted voice in this past election. How
Speaker 3: do you suggest or what do you suggest these Americans
Speaker 3: do to cope with the fact that there appears to
Speaker 3: be somewhat of a double standard and one party seems
Speaker 3: to be above the law.
Speaker 1: Okay, look, Oh, it's true tens of millions of Americans
Speaker 1: are very suspicious with regard to the last election. But
Speaker 1: the question if I may, if I may sofia is
Speaker 1: even larger than that because people can dismiss it. Ah,
Speaker 1: you're crazy, you're paranoid, you you're hallucinating, You're you're making
Speaker 1: up stuff. So let's talk about stuff. The division in
Speaker 1: America that that can't be denied, the suppression of free speech.
Speaker 1: Half of America thinks it's okay and half of America
Speaker 1: thinks it's evil to suppress free speech. That's that's one
Speaker 1: we could all acknowledge that we have this massive division
Speaker 1: on I want when I fight, I fight using clarity.
Speaker 1: Clarity is my best weapon where I can have. It
Speaker 1: happens on my radio show. Look, I have thirty five
Speaker 1: years of practice of dialoguing and debating with people who
Speaker 1: don't agree with me, and I've learned a lot, obviously,
Speaker 1: and one of the things is, and it happens a lot,
Speaker 1: and it's very touching where someone who will call up
Speaker 1: and disagree with me, and then I'll give an answer
Speaker 1: very calmly, and then there's a little silence and they go, oh,
Speaker 1: And I always commend them because they actually listened to
Speaker 1: my answer and then took it in. So forty to
Speaker 1: fifty percent of America's young people think it's okay to
Speaker 1: suppress hate speech. They say, oh, we believe in free speech,
Speaker 1: but not for haste speech. But of course they don't realize,
Speaker 1: then they're not for free speech. Free speech includes hate
Speaker 1: speech or what you define as hate speech. Otherwise, what
Speaker 1: is the point of free speech? Otherwise free speech means
Speaker 1: there's only free speech for love speech. Then then there
Speaker 1: isn't free speech. Who's against free speech for love speech.
Speaker 1: Nobody's suppressing I love you. It's where people differ, and
Speaker 1: you then have been taught to label what you differ
Speaker 1: with hate speech. If somebody actually says I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fair for biological men to compete against biological women
Speaker 1: in sports, why is that hatred. You may differ with them.
Speaker 1: You may think it's fair. I think it's cheating, because
Speaker 1: if biological men can in fact compete against biological women
Speaker 1: in sports, then there's no reason for women's teams to
Speaker 1: begin with. If men don't have biological men. I'm not
Speaker 1: denying that there are men who believe that they are women,
Speaker 1: and I honor that. That's fine. If your name is Cynthia,
Speaker 1: now I will call you Cynthia, and I'm not being cute.
Speaker 1: That's a separate issue. But allowing you with your male
Speaker 1: body that you can't get rid of, allowing you with
Speaker 1: your male muscles, your male bone structure, your greater height
Speaker 1: in most instances to race against females. That's called cheating.
Speaker 1: Anti cheating. Okay, but what I just said would be
Speaker 1: labeled by Facebook as hate speech or the new term misinformation.
Speaker 1: It's misinformation that there's a need for women's teams and
Speaker 1: men's teams. If biological men can compete against biological women,
Speaker 1: then let us end men's teams and women's team Because
Speaker 1: you're denying that men have an advantage in sports. What
Speaker 1: I just said is so obvious that you have to
Speaker 1: have been brainwashed from early grades to believe otherwise. What
Speaker 1: I just said is not debatable. Now, I won't suppress
Speaker 1: your right to say something foolish, but I will acknowledge
Speaker 1: it is not debatable. Men biological the biology of males
Speaker 1: is advantageous, which is the only reason we have female
Speaker 1: teams and female track, right, That's the reason. Otherwise men
Speaker 1: and women would compete in every sport. But we know
Speaker 1: men have a physical advantage. They don't lose that advantage
Speaker 1: just because they say they're women. So, Sophia, it goes
Speaker 1: well beyond this election. The differences are so profound, So
Speaker 1: what did you want to know? How do you suggest
Speaker 1: what these Americans do. We have to articulate our position.
Speaker 1: There are tens of millions of us. We have to
Speaker 1: articulate our position constantly and eloquently. Will they shut you down?
Speaker 1: Yes they will, But it's harder to shut down seventy
Speaker 1: million people who keep talking, then two million people who
Speaker 1: keep talking, and sixty eight million who are afraid to
Speaker 1: speak up. What's our timing? Good, Chris Rolling, North Carolina
Speaker 1: Prager Force member Hi, Chris Hi, Denis Otto snoopy in
Speaker 1: Megan's arm. Well, that is nice. I hope when I
Speaker 1: am your age, Dennis, I have experienced the full enough
Speaker 1: life to have an ounce of the wisdom you possess.
Speaker 1: The issue is not that I've had a full life.
Speaker 1: I've had a full life. The reason that I have
Speaker 1: wisdom is because I was steeped in religion from a
Speaker 1: very early age. And it's because and this I don't
Speaker 1: even take credit for, I wanted wisdom from a very
Speaker 1: early age. You have to whatevery goal you want. You
Speaker 1: have to want it. You don't become a decent person,
Speaker 1: a good person, even just by being one. You have
Speaker 1: to you have to want to become one. You have
Speaker 1: to want to be wise, and you can become wise.
Speaker 1: That's the reason I have read wiser thinkers than me.
Speaker 1: But you don't learn wiser thinkers than you any longer.
Speaker 1: In American schools they dropped Shakespeare because he's a white male.
Speaker 1: But who cares if he's a white male. I only
Speaker 1: care if he has wisdom to impart. But the unwise
Speaker 1: are now teaching our kids how to be unwise. Uh
Speaker 1: so yes? So, now that Chris's question continues. In a
Speaker 1: recent fireside chat, you mentioned a moral obligation to be happy.
Speaker 1: Can you expand on the idea of being and not
Speaker 1: acting happy, especially in hard times? Thank you for everything
Speaker 1: you do. You're welcome, Thank you for your thank you. Well.
Speaker 1: My whole thesis is we have a moral obligation to
Speaker 1: act happy. We cannot impose our bad moods on others
Speaker 1: anymore than people impose their bad breath or bad body
Speaker 1: odour on others. And just like we wash away our odors,
Speaker 1: we should wash away our moods. So I'm adamant about that.
Speaker 1: Even if you're feeling bad, you can't inflict your bad
Speaker 1: mood on me. Now, I'm not talking about people who
Speaker 1: have no capability of controlling themselves because of physiological problems,
Speaker 1: the manic, depressive or the schizophrenic, for example. I understand that.
Speaker 1: I understand that if you just lost your child, you're
Speaker 1: not going to be walking around smiling. I'm well aware
Speaker 1: of this. My dearest friend from high school just lost
Speaker 1: his child, and I'm going through this with him, and
Speaker 1: I don't expect him to sit there and act like
Speaker 1: nothing happened. Or most of us most of the time,
Speaker 1: we should, in fact, try try to act happy, by
Speaker 1: the way, for our sake as much as for others,
Speaker 1: because how you act will in fact affect your feelings.
Speaker 1: Act X, you'll feel X. Okay. Craig thirty three, Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: this is the Craig. I know he is a nuisance.
Speaker 1: This guy's like a stalker. Tell him what are your
Speaker 1: Super Bowl predictions? So let me explain. I know why
Speaker 1: he asked this because he thinks I'm out of it now.
Speaker 1: You guys are witnesses. Not only did I know who's playing,
Speaker 1: I told you the quarterback's names. Is that correct? Okay,
Speaker 1: just want to make that clear. But since you asked
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Okay, that's not to say they will. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you what I think will happen. So I'll
Speaker 1: ask you something. Craig, who's going to win the Stanley Cup,
Speaker 1: to which he's going to say, what sport is that?
Speaker 1: I got him? He thinks that a guy named Stanley
Speaker 1: gives a cup away? Okay, got him back, didn't I.
Speaker 1: What's our state? Oh? We are? Let's see. Oh the
Speaker 1: next one is so good. Eric and Bent in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: One of my sons lives in Pennsylvania. Warmsbut for Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: about self discipline. So stay tuned for the next fireside chat.
Speaker 1: That's the best way to do it. Listen, folks, what
Speaker 1: I began with is really important. I marvel at what
Speaker 1: good has been produced in this country given human nature,
Speaker 1: and given how much corruption has torn down societies around
Speaker 1: the world because of human nature. That's basic to judging
Speaker 1: a society, given human nature, what did it produce? Okay?
Speaker 1: Thanks for being with me on behalf of auto. Don't
Speaker 1: why you hyperventilating? Okay, that's my man. Thanks for being
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