WEBVTT - Regime Change in Venezuela?

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<v Speaker 1>Is regime change coming to Latin America? Is Nicholas Maduro

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in power for much longer in Caracas?

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<v Speaker 1>Plus a shockingly good GDP report when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the third quarter in the year twenty twenty five. Also

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<v Speaker 1>a mass exodus from the Heritage Foundation, the latest when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the Internet sign fighting and all the

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<v Speaker 1>chaos within the conservative movements. And Ben Satz, former Center

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<v Speaker 1>of Nebraska turned president of University of Florida sharing some

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<v Speaker 1>horrific news, but his attitude is an inspiring one. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got details on today's episode of the Josh Hammershaw. So

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<v Speaker 1>for months now, the United States has been upping the ante,

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<v Speaker 1>has impressuring Nicholas Maduro, the successor to Ugo Chavez in

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<v Speaker 1>the failed socialist regime in Venezuela. Perhaps you're familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the story by now, but in case you are not,

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<v Speaker 1>that essentially goes as follows. For a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>Venezuela was one of the economic power horses, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the engines they are in South America. They were punching

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<v Speaker 1>way above their weight when it comes to GDP per

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<v Speaker 1>capita and when it comes to basic economic resources, primarily

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<v Speaker 1>because Venezuela, uniquely among the nations of Latin America, is

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<v Speaker 1>blessed when it comes to hydrocarbons. The well known oil

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<v Speaker 1>and gas company Citgo. You probably filled up your car

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<v Speaker 1>at some point over the years at a Sitco station.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a Venezuelan oil company. They are part of OPEK,

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<v Speaker 1>the only country in Latin America that really is a

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<v Speaker 1>major player when it comes to the global qalanities market

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<v Speaker 1>for oil. So for a very long time, Venezuela was

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<v Speaker 1>a powerhouse down there in Latin America. Argentina for a

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<v Speaker 1>while was that way as well, prior to their own

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<v Speaker 1>descent into socialism. We'll see if Javier Malay can salvage

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<v Speaker 1>that country. That perhaps is an analysis and a story

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<v Speaker 1>for another day. But when it comes to Venezuela, fast

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<v Speaker 1>forwarding more or less to the president to the present.

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<v Speaker 1>So Madure has been in power for a while now.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a dispute election in Venezuela about six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years ago. There was another Trump backed candidate

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<v Speaker 1>who almost gone to power, and there have been all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of allegations of corruption. But Udera has been in

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<v Speaker 1>powered there for a while now, and the trumpministration perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>unexpectedly on the one hand, but not wholly unspectively on

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, and all on path that in just

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<v Speaker 1>a second, there has been really pushing quite hard when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Maduro in Venezuela. And now I say

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<v Speaker 1>unexpectedly on the one hand, because when you think of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and as foreign policy, you don't necessarily think

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<v Speaker 1>of regime change. You necessarily think of warmongering and swashbuckling

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<v Speaker 1>looking to pick fights. However, if you look carefully at

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<v Speaker 1>the administration's foreign policies oction especially it's out of the

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<v Speaker 1>gates moves. We go all the way back to January

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<v Speaker 1>almost a year ago and now the beginning of administration,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually was in hindsight at least somewhat easy to

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<v Speaker 1>see this escalation campaign against Venezuela coming. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean by that is that Marco Rubio's very first trip,

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<v Speaker 1>his very first foreign trip as Secretary of State, was

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<v Speaker 1>actually to Latin America. It was two three different Latin

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<v Speaker 1>American countries, if memory, and he did that to make

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<v Speaker 1>a point. In fact, Maria Anastasia O'Grady, who is the

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<v Speaker 1>Latin Affairs called the Western Hemisphere columnists when at the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal and has been for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 1>She pointed this out in the first week or two

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<v Speaker 1>of the Trump administration, again going back almost a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>because Rubio, this symbolism was not lost on his first venue,

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<v Speaker 1>his first choice of international trip in this hemisphere. And

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<v Speaker 1>this goes back a very long time. As we discussed

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<v Speaker 1>this on the show May Times. The Monroe Doctrine, which

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<v Speaker 1>eponymously goes back to the early nineteenth century President James Monroe,

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<v Speaker 1>which was corroborated by the Roosevelt Corollary, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>similar proclamation issued by Teddy Roosevelt in the first decade

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen hundreds, and the Monroe Doctor the Trump Corollary,

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<v Speaker 1>which both more or less dand for the same principle,

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<v Speaker 1>is basically says the United States is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>shit back and let foreign powers meddle to mess in

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<v Speaker 1>our own hemisphere. You know, Gosh, Darner, We're gonna care

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<v Speaker 1>about our backyard. We're going to care about our backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna let you which back, and especially in

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<v Speaker 1>the era of Monroe, really meant to the European powers,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to let you meddle when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to our concrete area of interest. This doctrine has actually

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<v Speaker 1>only become more important over the past call it fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five years, as the global economy has become

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<v Speaker 1>even more interconnected in a post Berlin Wall era, as

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<v Speaker 1>global terrorist networks, narco terrorists, shei hottest networks can now

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<v Speaker 1>continue to sprawl all across the world and exude a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of influence all across the world. Hesvola, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lebanese militia group backed by the Irani regime. Hesbola

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<v Speaker 1>has long had tremendous influence when it comes to Latin America.

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<v Speaker 1>They are very cosed with many of the leading human

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<v Speaker 1>trafficking rings and transnational cartels when it comes to drug

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<v Speaker 1>smuggling and things like that. The administration started to look

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<v Speaker 1>into this ended up actually, this is quite a scandal

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<v Speaker 1>that went under the radar. The Obomba Instration ends up

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<v Speaker 1>actually shelving ended up deep sixing their investigation into the

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<v Speaker 1>ties between HESBA and the Mexican narco terrorist groups for

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<v Speaker 1>the simple reason that they didn't want to actually upset

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<v Speaker 1>the apple cart when it came to their sycophantic diplomacy

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<v Speaker 1>with the Iranian regime. So pretty pretty crazy stuff, frankly

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to that. But again, Maduro is now

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<v Speaker 1>back in the news and trumpstry. The Trump Minstration is

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<v Speaker 1>reasserting this Monroe doctrine here. In fact, they actually are

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<v Speaker 1>now calling it the Trump corollary. There was recently unveiled

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump and National Security Strategy, this formal document that

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump Ministration revealed recently, and they're literally calling it

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<v Speaker 1>actually the Trump corollary, which is obviously a play on

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<v Speaker 1>the Roosevelt corollary from one hundred and twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>More or less so, those campaign has been escalating for

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<v Speaker 1>months and months. One of the key parts of this

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<v Speaker 1>campaign has been a series of narco terrorist strikes when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the Pete Hechsath Secretary of War led

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<v Speaker 1>strikes on many of these vessels that are essentially engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in trying to smuggle drugs from Venezuela, worked with the

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<v Speaker 1>cartels gain them to the Caribbean Sea, gets to the

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<v Speaker 1>Gulf Mexican cog entering god forbid, here in Florida where

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<v Speaker 1>I live, or in Texas or one of the other

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<v Speaker 1>when the other ports there along the Gulf of Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>and the Atlantic seaboard. That is the primary stipulated reason

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<v Speaker 1>of the Hegseth led narco terrorist strikes, which we have

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<v Speaker 1>assistently defended here on the Josh Hammer Show as a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of both foreign policy and as legal principle when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to both statutory and constitutional inherent authority under

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<v Speaker 1>Article to the Constitution to engage in such preemptive, prophylactic,

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<v Speaker 1>targeted precision strikes. Here we defend that time and time again,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will continue.

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<v Speaker 2>To do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the or more recent part, though, building off

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<v Speaker 1>of these narco terrorist strikes, which there have been now

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<v Speaker 1>roughly two dozen more or less of the strikes. Part

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<v Speaker 1>of that is an increasing campaign against Nicholas Maduro himself.

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<v Speaker 1>So President Trump took to truth social over the past

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<v Speaker 1>week or so to announce that there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a blockade there on Venezuela. It's not entirely obvious exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what that means in practice, to the best of my

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of the US Navy does not have the entire

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<v Speaker 1>country cordons off when it comes to the seas, but

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<v Speaker 1>certainly Donald Trump and and the administration are upping the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure tremendously. In fact, Donald Trump actually was just here

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<v Speaker 1>in Palm Beach, Florida. In South Florida yesterday, he was

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<v Speaker 1>flanked at his sides by Pete Heggsauth, the Secretary of War,

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<v Speaker 1>on one side, by Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State,

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<v Speaker 1>on his other side, talking tough with Nicholas Maduro. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, here was Donald Trump speaking yesterday in West

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<v Speaker 1>pomp Beach, Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>Why should Maduro take your threat serious seriously?

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<v Speaker 2>And whatever he wants, what's your end?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your end?

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<v Speaker 2>We could do so as he could do whatever he wants.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a massive armada for him, the biggest we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever had and by far the biggest we've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>in South America.

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<v Speaker 3>He could do whatever he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever he wants to do, if he wants to do something,

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<v Speaker 2>If he plays tough, it'll be the last time he's

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<v Speaker 2>ever able to play tough.

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<v Speaker 1>So this has been the rhetoric of administration for a

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<v Speaker 1>while now. Nicholas Turro, for what it's worth, we played

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<v Speaker 1>a clip on the show maybe a week or two ago,

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<v Speaker 1>is making very light of the situation. He had this

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<v Speaker 1>absurd clip of putting on like a Mexican sombrero looking

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<v Speaker 1>hat and singing in English non Spanish the Bob Marley

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<v Speaker 1>song Don't worry, be happy, I mean talk about not

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<v Speaker 1>taking the threat seriously. You know, maybe he will learn

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<v Speaker 1>learn the difficult lesson of not taking down trum seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>We shall see. Now another element of what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned that Venezuela has oil connections. Now, the Socials

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<v Speaker 1>regime has typically run the oil wells dry, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are very close to other major petroleum hydrocarbon exporting countries

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<v Speaker 1>such as Iran. Now, Iran is not really a hydrocarbon

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<v Speaker 1>exporting country right now because of the various crippling sanctions

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<v Speaker 1>that have been on the country for a very very

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<v Speaker 1>long time now, but they are still very cozy when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Iran. In fact, the second oil tanker

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<v Speaker 1>that was just seized over this past weekend, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are rumors of a possible third oil tanker seizure as

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<v Speaker 1>well that also has has alleged Iranian connections there. So

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump getting asked yesterday in West Palm Beach what

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<v Speaker 1>happens again to the oil, A question that he's been

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<v Speaker 1>asked before there. But here's Donald Trump again yesterday in

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<v Speaker 1>West pomp Beach, far speaking of Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 3>Man oil. What are we gonna do with the oil

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<v Speaker 3>that we have?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do with what the oil that has been seized.

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<v Speaker 3>The United States sees one point nine million barrels of

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<v Speaker 3>oil on December tenth.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna keep it.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's it?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we gonna sell it and put in the strategic.

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<v Speaker 1>May We'll sell it, will keep it, maybe we'll use

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<v Speaker 1>it in the strategic reserves.

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<v Speaker 3>We're keeping it. We're keeping the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>So look, and that should be the reaction. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that should be the stance there if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get involved in the game of international seizure of oil

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<v Speaker 1>tankers sanctioned oil tankers. To be clear, and there is

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of legal justification for dealing with the United States

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<v Speaker 1>has done. The DOJ isn't working hard to get those

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<v Speaker 1>those legal memoranda and papers in place, And so far

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<v Speaker 1>I've been pretty persuaded by what I have seen there

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<v Speaker 1>from i legal front there. But when it comes to oil,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, what else are you gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you're going to take oyal there. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's kndu's Donald Trump both troll and also taking the

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<v Speaker 1>common sense and just utterly logical position. Now the big

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<v Speaker 1>question is where does this go from here? Now? I

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<v Speaker 1>was filling in on radio earlier today for Mark Davis

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<v Speaker 1>on six sixty Am. The Answer the Sale and affiliate

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas Fort Worth, and I brought on a guest,

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Goldberg, who's a foreign policy specialist, to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this and other issues. Now. Rich is not particularly persuaded

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<v Speaker 1>that there's going to be massive escalatory action there. He

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<v Speaker 1>does not takes particularly seriously the threats of Shi Jimpang,

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<v Speaker 1>ro Vember, Photon, are various other Maduro Venezuelan allies to

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<v Speaker 1>get involved and to potentially meddle further. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably accurate for the very simple reason that China and

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<v Speaker 1>Russia didn't lift a finger to try to rescue their

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian ally during the Israel Iran War during the Twelve

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<v Speaker 1>Day War back in June. This kind of went under

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<v Speaker 1>the radar a little bit there. But let's not forget

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<v Speaker 1>that Iran's vaunted allies. I mean, if you go back

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<v Speaker 1>to that and the whole argument that this conflict when

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<v Speaker 1>in Gulf America in World War Three, thousands and thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of dead US soldier, sailors, marines. That was the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker Carlson argument. That argument was predica in the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that China and Russia would get involved. Okay, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have World War three if it's just Iran. You need

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<v Speaker 1>China and Russia to get involved. There. They didn't. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't lift a finger. They did absolutely positively nothing. So

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly these argument that they would get involved then

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<v Speaker 1>in venta as well as well. I think that rich

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<v Speaker 1>Goldberg frankly is right. I'm not buying the notion that

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<v Speaker 1>puter hu Jinping would bother to get involved. Putin still

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<v Speaker 1>has his hands more than full when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>Zelenski and the Ukrainian Theater. He's still sitting down with

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner when it comes to trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get some sort of deal inked out, ironed out

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to trying to get off rammed here,

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<v Speaker 1>that he can politically live with, that he will not

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<v Speaker 1>be toppled for when in the Kremlin, that he can

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<v Speaker 1>take back to the Russian people, and that they will

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<v Speaker 1>not basically decapitate him out of frustration at at the results.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she Gimping is really going to get

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<v Speaker 1>involved either. H Jinping has plenty of his own problems

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<v Speaker 1>there when it comes to the Indo Pacific. The Chinese economy, incidentally,

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<v Speaker 1>is is really shrugging right now, and the real estate

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<v Speaker 1>market above all. So the notion that China go ahead

0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and over extend their influence when it comes to trying

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<v Speaker 1>to bail out what a socialist backwater that's dried out

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<v Speaker 1>the oil wells, I'm not really necessarily buying that either.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it's also true that the MAGA coalition, Donald Trump's

0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:33.720
<v Speaker 1>supporters did not necessarily vote for a land war. I

0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.000
<v Speaker 1>think that's a very common sense thing to say, is

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<v Speaker 1>that very few people who vote over Donald Trump thought

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<v Speaker 1>that they were voting for fresh hostilities and a regime

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<v Speaker 1>change war in Latin America. But the point is this.

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<v Speaker 1>The point is that there are any number of things

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<v Speaker 1>that the United States can do to try to softly

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<v Speaker 1>or more quietly, try to persuade Nicholas Maduro to step down,

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<v Speaker 1>to abdicate his leadership. Look at what happened to Bashar

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<v Speaker 1>al Assade. Now, admittedly that was led by a bunch

0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of ragtag Chihatis led by this guy al Shara who's

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<v Speaker 1>still currently in charge of Damascus. But after assad was

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<v Speaker 1>toppled in Damascus just about a year ago. Last December,

0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.400
<v Speaker 1>he was on the next plane to Moscow, and you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard his name since then. I mean he's essentially living,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as in the winn Is protection program, basically

0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Vladmir Putin in Russia style. That's what Bashar Alosad has

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<v Speaker 1>been doing for the past year now. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the idea here, if I'm trying to guess what Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and Pete had Seth and Marco Ruby are thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>is to try to get Nicholas Maduro to take the

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<v Speaker 1>Bashar al Assade offer and then to abscond to China

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<v Speaker 1>or Russia or I mean maybe even Havana, Cuba, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get some nice cigars. I'm being tongue

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<v Speaker 1>in cheek. I don't think. I don't know why you

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily choose there. I think the Cuban regime is probably

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<v Speaker 1>on thin ice too, for very similar reasons as Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of speculation that it could be two

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<v Speaker 1>for the price of one. If you get Maduro to abdicate,

0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe the Castro regime in Cuba could be next possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably wishful thinking, honestly, I mean, given how long they've

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<v Speaker 1>been in power. But they are very much tied at

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<v Speaker 1>the hip, is the basic argument there. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to understand this point though. There are a lot of

0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:15.760
<v Speaker 1>folks in the right of center commentarian who have looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the failures of the United States when it comes

0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to a Rock and Afghanistan, and let's be very clear,

0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.480
<v Speaker 1>they are absolute failures. I have been critical for my

0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:29.040
<v Speaker 1>entire political commentary adult lifetime when it comes to the

0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.800
<v Speaker 1>foreign policy failures of Iraq and Afghanistan. I have been

0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.840
<v Speaker 1>deeply critical of the foreign policy doctrine that America has

0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.400
<v Speaker 1>an interest in exporting and promoting democracy, which is the

0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Bush two point zero neo conservative creed. That's not my stance.

0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.200
<v Speaker 1>My stance is basically the Donald Trump stance, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a conservative nationals realist form of foreign policy. There. But

0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks who have also been shocked and

0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:56.680
<v Speaker 1>horrified by the Iraq and Afghanistan boondoggles have overlearned the

0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.480
<v Speaker 1>relevant lesson when it comes to so called regime change.

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<v Speaker 1>Regime change is not necessarily is not necessarily this horrific word,

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<v Speaker 1>hush hush, You can't say it that. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the folks on the hard isolationist Tucker wing of this

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<v Speaker 1>broader conversation want it to be we should be skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States imposing regime change unless, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>they've already been grievously wounded. It would be a very

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<v Speaker 1>simple operation, like literally simple, not like quote unquote simple,

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<v Speaker 1>like we saw in Iraq and O three and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's a very very limited case, limited case for

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<v Speaker 1>a true US imposed military game change there. But consider

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility that many, perhaps most, forms of regime change

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to happen from US military force. A regime

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<v Speaker 1>change taking a phase value, maybe I'm being literalists. Literally

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<v Speaker 1>just means a change in regime, and unless you're a moron,

0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you should be able to recognize. Indeed, it ought to

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<v Speaker 1>be axiomatic that there are various regimes around the world

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<v Speaker 1>that the American national interest would be buttressed by, would

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<v Speaker 1>be elevated by if that regime were not in power.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it not obvious that America's interest in the Indo

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific would in theory be better if there were a

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<v Speaker 1>regime change in Beijing, If the Chinese Communist Party were

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<v Speaker 1>to bow out and you get some reasonable actors in

0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.320
<v Speaker 1>place there really, of course, the American national interests would

0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.800
<v Speaker 1>be enhanced by that form of quote unquote regime change.

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<v Speaker 1>How about soft regime change in Russia if we got

0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.080
<v Speaker 1>a leader in the Kremlin who would just make total

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<v Speaker 1>peace with NATO. I mean, and this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like fairy land, you know, like the land of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of unicorn farts and rainbows. Maybe it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>good dream. But I'm just making a theoretical intellectual point,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that, of course there are situations where there

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<v Speaker 1>could be a change in regime that were down to

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<v Speaker 1>the American national interest. And the very simple point is

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<v Speaker 1>that a change of the social regime in Venezuela is

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<v Speaker 1>one such case. Is that what's gonna happen here? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that how it's going to play out? Are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to get Nichols m Duro taking the bashar al asade options,

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<v Speaker 1>looking all this pressure around him, looking at Trump with

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<v Speaker 1>a tough talk, looking at the naval blockade, Trump talking

0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.480
<v Speaker 1>about this armada when it comes to the shifts again,

0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking it's a literal three and sixty degree blockade.

0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:14.600
<v Speaker 1>But there are there's a lot of US military equipment

0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and vessels there now in US Southern Commands led by

0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.159
<v Speaker 1>the USS Gerald Ford Striker Group. Is Maduro going to

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<v Speaker 1>get the message? Is he banking on a bailout from

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<v Speaker 1>Putin or a huge imping that's not going to come.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Your mileage may vary there. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I do know is that when it comes to the

0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:35.480
<v Speaker 1>notion of regime change, I would caution you against over learning,

0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.880
<v Speaker 1>against over learning the lessons of a rock in Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some regimes that really ought to go. There

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<v Speaker 1>are some regimes that, in theory them going would enhance

0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the American national interest. That is not to say that

0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.879
<v Speaker 1>is not to say that the US itself has a

0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.359
<v Speaker 1>moral obligation to impose it the same way that that

0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the United States can, and in the past sometimes has

0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:05.200
<v Speaker 1>provided forms of morals clandestine material and supports to Iranian protesters.

0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama famously said that not doing so in two

0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.439
<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine during the Green Revolution Iran. Obama famous

0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.680
<v Speaker 1>has said that was one of his foremost failures of

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<v Speaker 1>foreign policy, and he had a lot to choose from

0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.239
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to foreign policy failures. That's the kind

0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.760
<v Speaker 1>of thing that the United States definitely can do in

0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.760
<v Speaker 1>a situation like this in Venezuela. There so the notion

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0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.440
<v Speaker 1>home front, because Venezuela is not the only thing going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing live radio this morning when the latest

0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.560
<v Speaker 1>economic report came out, as have we now actually have

0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.360
<v Speaker 1>official government data on the Q three, that is Q

0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.479
<v Speaker 1>three twenty twenty five, most recent quarter. The ends when

0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the GDP gross domestic product growth. Those

0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:30.040
<v Speaker 1>numbers coming in courtesy of the US Commerce Department four

0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.399
<v Speaker 1>point three percent. The inflation just number is coming in

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<v Speaker 1>at four point three percent annualized growth for July through

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty twenty five. That is a lot higher. That

0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>is a lot higher than what the eCOM is polled predicted.

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<v Speaker 1>The consensus that I saw was roughly a full point

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<v Speaker 1>lower than that three point two percent forecast was among

0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.679
<v Speaker 1>the cocomas polled by the Wall Street Journals a one

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<v Speaker 1>point one percent ahead of that. That's even an increase

0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.720
<v Speaker 1>when the previous quarter three point eight percent. So look,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you might think about truck tariffs, and I think

0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.760
<v Speaker 1>reasonable minds can vary when it comes to trade in general.

0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.520
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to this trade off between lower prices

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and domestic production, these are these These are these are

0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>value judgments. These are value judgments upon which are reasonable

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 1>people who hold reasonable differing values can indeed disagree. But

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<v Speaker 1>whatever there is to say about that, the economy is reving, Okay,

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.159
<v Speaker 1>the economy is clearly revving. And this is going to

0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 1>be just further wined at Donald Trump's sales from his

0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.880
<v Speaker 1>speech at the White House last Wednesday evening, six days

0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.119
<v Speaker 1>ago where he gave this speech touting the economy and

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.679
<v Speaker 1>saying that it's doing really well. And now there is

0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:39.600
<v Speaker 1>further evidence, I would say to tremendously really underscore the

0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:43.639
<v Speaker 1>exact point that that he is making. Again, the terriffs,

0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever I think of them, are clearly not having an

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.800
<v Speaker 1>effect at all at all. For that matter, when it

0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 1>comes to the gross domestic product, the terriffs went in place,

0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.119
<v Speaker 1>at least the first slew of them went to place

0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.120
<v Speaker 1>in early April. That was Donald Trump's so called Liberation

0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Day speech at the Rose Garden of the White House there.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we've had a quarter and a half, we've

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<v Speaker 1>had basically two quarters, close to two full quarters when

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it comes to GDP data, and guess what, the ECAMI

0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 1>is still just reving along just fine. Let's got now

0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>in watch Mark Tepper of Strategic Wealth Partners at the CEO.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on Fox Business talking about this new GDP report.

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<v Speaker 1>We are looking right now at the GDP number at

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<v Speaker 1>four point three percent is the actual number versus an

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<v Speaker 1>estra of three point three percent?

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Tepper?

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<v Speaker 3>Your reaction, So last week we talked about inflation coming

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<v Speaker 3>in lower than expected. Now economic growth is one full

0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.840
<v Speaker 3>percentage point faster than expected. It was supposed to come

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<v Speaker 3>in at three point three, came in at four point three.

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.360
<v Speaker 3>This is a direct result of everything President Trump has

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 3>put in place. Net exports are on the rise because

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 3>of Trump's tariff policy, which is leveling the trade playing field.

0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:54.119
<v Speaker 3>AI's increasing productivity, businesses are investing in spending, and the

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:58.560
<v Speaker 3>consumer remains strong. And just think next I think, well,

0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.879
<v Speaker 3>next quarter they'll end up getting an extra one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty billion dollars in refund checks that they can

0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 3>then deploy and spend as well. So great number.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the key thing on the economy is this, Whatever

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the data may say, as we was playing time and

0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 1>time again, perception is politics in general, but especially when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the economy. So at the same time

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that this excellent Q three GDP number is coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, four point three percent growth is really quite good.

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<v Speaker 1>Is already speaking, what you really seek to achieve in

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<v Speaker 1>a first world developed a community like the US is

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<v Speaker 1>over three percent growth, four or five or five plus

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 1>percent growth. That's that's really desirable, really desirable there. So

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>this is this is number of the Donald Trump should

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<v Speaker 1>be proud of. At the same time. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a poll that I saw from over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>a poll that was that was conducted by the American

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Research Group that I saw trending on social media that said,

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<v Speaker 1>is your household financial situation better or worse off than

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<v Speaker 1>it was a year ago? And unfortunately for the President,

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<v Speaker 1>this poll showed sixty five percent American and say that

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<v Speaker 1>their household finanal situation is actually worse off compared to

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<v Speaker 1>last year, compared to seven percent that say it is

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<v Speaker 1>better off. The rest say that there's been no real change.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a problem. Now, making that connection between actual raising,

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<v Speaker 1>elevating GDP, actual macroeconomic data more generally that is trending

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<v Speaker 1>in a sound direction when it comes to inflation, when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to GDP, when it comes to all the

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<v Speaker 1>various metrics there. Making that connection between that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>making the median American person actually feel that that is

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<v Speaker 1>easier said than done. That is the role for statesmen,

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<v Speaker 1>That is the role for first class politicians there. But

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<v Speaker 1>at least when it comes to the messaging, what we've

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<v Speaker 1>encouraged the President and his team to do on this

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<v Speaker 1>show is to try to show as much empathy as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be raped the American people. Don't say the ecmmyne

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<v Speaker 1>is great, you should be grateful for it. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the mistake that Joe Biden made. That's a mistake that Kareem,

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<v Speaker 1>Jean Pierre and the other idiots of the Biden regime

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<v Speaker 1>did over and over and over again. They epically botched

0:23:58.240 --> 0:23:59.719
<v Speaker 1>the commune. That's how we got to nine point one

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 1>er scent inflation three and a half years ago. In

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<v Speaker 1>the summer twenty twenty two, they epically boss you, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they say, basically, shut up and be grateful for it.

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 1>That's not a winning message. That is not a winning message, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that Trump's doing that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did hear at least some shades of that.

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<v Speaker 1>During his talk at the White House last week. He also, correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>into his great credit emphasized this is very much a

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<v Speaker 1>work in progress as well, so good, so continue to

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:26.199
<v Speaker 1>emphasize that it's a work in progress. I understand that

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 1>some of you are not necessarily feeling what the economy

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and the economists tell me is happening with the data there.

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<v Speaker 1>We are working every day to make sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>can fill up your truck at the pump and not

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about breaking the bank count. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you can go to the grocery

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<v Speaker 1>store and make sure that you're not making any trade

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<v Speaker 1>offs when it comes to what to feed your family

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. You know, basic things like that. Just

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<v Speaker 1>show a little more empathy, frankly, and I think that

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 1>would actually go a very long way. But for now,

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.439
<v Speaker 1>the economic data looking really, really, really good when it

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>comes to the Trump administration, and that is a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>credit fring. That is to the great credits of Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>assets to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and really just all

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the folks general there, Scot p Assent of the Treasury Secretary,

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 1>all the folks on the economic team, they deserve a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a credit.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned at the outset, and this is all staying

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, DC. This exodus of talent from the Heritage

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Foundation is starting to make some ways so to recavocate

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you even follow this story and we'll cut up the

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:25.959
<v Speaker 1>chase quickly here because this happened a while ago at

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<v Speaker 1>this point there in late October, shortly after Tucker Carlson

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>hosted the Neo Nazi Nick Funtiss on a show for

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a puffball interview. Shortly after that, Kevin Roberts, the president

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of the Herridge Foundation, released a pretty horrific video. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like christ and Kevin because I've had very

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>cordial relations with Kevin for many years. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a decent human being. But he made an egregious error

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>here in this video. And he basically defended the video

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and staid there's essentially nothing Tucker could do that would

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>make him persona non grata when it comes to a

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>relationship with him at the Heritage Foundation. And the repercussions

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>have been nothing less than astonishing. This entire anti Semitism

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>task force that they had set up a Heritage left.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost various members of the board's trustees, a handful

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.360
<v Speaker 1>of them actually by now, they lost some of their

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>most iconic senior fellows at the organization, people like Chris Dumouth,

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>people like Stephen Moore, And now just over the past

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<v Speaker 1>few days, somewhere between a dozen and a half and

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>two dozen employees, including the vast bulk of the economic

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>team and the legal team, have picked up and left

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>from the Herriage Foundation. They've either been fired or they've resigned,

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>including people who've been affiliate with Heritage for a very

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>long time. I mean to name just one name, Hans

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:43.719
<v Speaker 1>von Spakowski, who is a specialist when it comes to

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>election law, when it comes to voter fraud, when it

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>comes to election integrity, illegal immigration. Hans is a first

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 1>rate scholar. He's been a Heritage for a very long time,

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the national experts in his particular field. He resigned.

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>He resigned just yesterday, literally hours actually after he was

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<v Speaker 1>made the inter head or interim co head of the

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Mease Legal Center, because the rest of the Legal Center

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>was either fired or resigned. By the way, the MEAs

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of the Edwin Meaes Legal Center is a former Ronald

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Reagan Attorney General, Edwin Mests, who's long and doubted that position.

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 1>He actually went ahead himself and took his namesake. He

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>took the me Center. That is literally Ronald Reagan Attorney General,

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>took the me Center out of Heritage and moved it

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>with most of the rest of the staff to AAF

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Americans Advancing Freedom, which is the organization affiliated with Mike Pence.

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Now we're not huge Mike Penn's fans necessarily here on

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the show, and we can quit bal as to whether

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>or not that organization is going to save the day

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the American rights. I think probably not.

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>And I would have liked to have seen some of

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>these folks who were either shown the door or resign

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 1>Heritage end up at some other organization that didn't have

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the taint of Mike Pence. But this is just a massive, massive,

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>five alarm fire at this point for the Heritage Foundation.

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's very difficult, frankly for me to see how

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>they can how they can restore their credibility. I mean,

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>what exactly can you do at this point? You've lost

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 1>god knows how much money when it comes to donations,

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>You've lost god knows how much influence when it comes

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 1>to various members of the board who resigns, when it

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>comes to senior fellows of some of your most iconic people.

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>There what exactly is left of the Heritage Foundation team?

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And I won't reveal sources, but I'm still friendly or

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>friends with plenty of people inside the building and the

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Heritage Foundation headquarters. And what I am told what I

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>am told is that if bad people are hired to

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>replace the folks who left. So if they want to

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 1>double down on this Tucker friendly direction, they want to

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>hire a bunch of groper economists, for instance, whatever the

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>heck that even means, then I think there are going

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to be other divisions, other teams of scholars at Heritage

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>who will exit stage left asap. So this is nothing

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>less than a catastrophic self inflicted wound. And if it's

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>self inflicted wounds that came from the place of doctor

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Robert speaking of a half Heritage, that they are no

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>longer actually valuating principles and convictions and policies and subjective ideas.

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>What it means to be conservative? What is conservatism? What

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>is the American rights? Why does this matter?

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 2>There?

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Rather announced Kevin Roberts in this now infamous video. He

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>announced that they are going to prioritize, among other things,

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>their relationship with Tucker Carlson. And this has been just

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>part of this now two month long saga. It's a

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>story that's not dying. I mean, I mean, it's kind

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>of crazy. Here, We're almost two months after this and

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you're still having this mass excess of people from Heritage.

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Where does it end? I have no idea, And frankly,

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>for the folks who are currently on the board at Heritage.

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>How are you guys letting this happen exactly? I mean,

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>how are you letting this much damage, this much carnage

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>happened to the institution. You know, that's frankly another question

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>that also be asked here as well. But this is this,

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>of course, happening in the broader context of the turning

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Point USA and FEST conference that we spoke about a

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>great length on yesterday's show. This ongoing debate as to

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>what the right stand for, what are the parameters, what

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>who is part of the rights, who is not part

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>of the rights. Should we listen to certain crank conspiracy

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>podcasters or should we not? Interesting clip that I came

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>across from Mike Huckabee, former governor of Arkansas, currently the

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>US Ambassador to Israel, all rounds, good men, good American.

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>But where does that come from? You know, there's a

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>difference between dom and ignorant. Dumb is that a person

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>cannot process information. They just don't have the capacity. They

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>don't have an operating system, if I put it, than

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 2>computer language. Ignorance is that the data isn't there. What

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 2>we're dealing with is not an operating system problem. It's

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 2>a data problem. We have not downloaded the proper data,

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<v Speaker 2>the correct, the true data, into the minds of younger people,

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 2>and we've assumed that they're going to grow up intellectually

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 2>curious and intellectually honest, and that they will look for themselves.

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>But they're not. That's the problem. They're not looking. They're

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>taking it face value, what some podcaster says, and the

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>result is absolutely dangerous.

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>It's well said, it's well said. Look, our responsibility as

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>folks in the information business, as we discussed on yesterday's show,

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>is to elevate you. It is not to deflate you.

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>We are here to inform you, to give you informed, reasonable,

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>hopefully at least a semi sophisticated commentary on the day's events,

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>on the affairs of the day, of the week, the month,

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and so forth. There those who are involved in something

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<v Speaker 1>quite different than that, who are involved in what I

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>like to refer to as a brain rot op, in

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>a sprawling brain rot operation, they do not deserve your respect.

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>They don't deserve your time, your clicks, your download, or

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:47.479
<v Speaker 1>your concern. And at a certain point, if these folks

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<v Speaker 1>who think of themselves as being part of the coalition

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>are doing so much incredible damage to undermine that coalition's

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<v Speaker 1>very vitality, that coalitions very chances of success when it

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>comes to the ballot box, when it comes of defeating

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>our actual threats, which is the left something that I

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>couldn't agree more on than at some point those folks

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>perhaps not actually in the coalition. At the end of day,

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>if you were undermining your own purported cause, consider the

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>possibility that you were actually not part of that cause.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>If you are consistently shooting yourself in the foot at best,

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>or trying to sabotage things at worse, then consider the

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>possibility that you're out. There's no need to just continually welcome, welcome, Welcome,

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>into the tent there. So again, I think that there

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>was part of this is a noble backlash against the

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>cancel culture wars for a long time, and I was

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>very passionate about this. I've dedicated a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>speaking and writing and talking legal theory when it comes

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to Section two thirty in anti trust and common carriation.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent a lot of time unpacking America is big

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<v Speaker 1>tech censorship issue been a major major theme of our

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>show and my writings outside the show for a long time.

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>But to say that it was wrong for mainstream conservatives

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to be censored shadow band or d platforms during the

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Jack Dorsey era of Twitter for talking about things like

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the Hunter Biden laptop or about how transgenderism is alive.

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>That is very different. Righteous combination of shadow banning and

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>deplatforming for things like that. That is very different than

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>fast forward to today. For saying that it's quote unquote

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>cancelation to simply criticize someone else within the alleged purporterfold.

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Because that's what they're saying about those of us who

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem speaking up against the Tucker Carlson,

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Candice owns a Sammy. They're telling us that we're engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in cancelation. What again, No one's trying to cancel anyone.

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>This is a free country. Go to rumble, go to YouTube,

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>go to your Instagram, meals, TikTok, whatever the hell you

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>want to do, go get on there and monetize it

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to your heart's content. That's fine with me, That's fine

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>with anyone. I know. What we're saying here is who

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>is part of the twenty twenty eight coalition. And the

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>more that you welcome in the crazies. The more that major,

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>major iconic concern institutions like the hairsmon Nation play foot

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>seat with the crazies, the greater the chances of a

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<v Speaker 1>president's gavenusmwhere president aocr This is the part that I

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<v Speaker 1>wish more people understood. For every eighteen or nineteen year

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>old basement dwelling graper that you're trying to bring into

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the coalition, you're going to repulse three, four or five

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>relative normies, Hispanics, black men, Jews, all the various groups

0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:01.439
<v Speaker 1>that were coming increasingly to the Trump coalition, this whole

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 1>notion of the multi ethnic working class coalition. How many

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>times do we hear that buzzword? We heard a lot

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>because it was a real thing, young people. For goodness sake,

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>all these former elements of the Obama coalition have been

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>trending right word. It's an amazing thing. Don't mess it up.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I see a lot of people, frankly, that are interested,

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<v Speaker 1>if nothing else, in trying to muddy the waters, potentially

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<v Speaker 1>even mess this up. And that causes me great concern,

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<v Speaker 1>not really frankly as a Jew, but as an American

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to see America prevail. And the only way

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<v Speaker 1>that America prevails is for the right to prevail, and

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the right must be capable of prevailing, have the intellectual

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<v Speaker 1>fortitude to actually prevail, and that means, frankly, patrolling our

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<v Speaker 1>own boundaries. One final notes for today's show, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>something of a somber one. Ben sass the former senator

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<v Speaker 1>from from Nebraska and he became most recently the president

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<v Speaker 1>of the University of Florida. Your mileage may vary on

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Ben Sas as an individual. I certainly was not the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest fan of all of his exploits in the US Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>Sanctimonious Sassis on my former Senate staffers calt him and

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<v Speaker 1>those all sorts of investigative work from his time at

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Florida showing potential corruption there. Okay, your

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<v Speaker 1>mileage to me very like I said there. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>had my I've had my own prisons. But none of

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<v Speaker 1>that's really relevant for the posts that he posted earlier today.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's uh, it's really quite hard wrenching, galling stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ben Sas posted I'm only gonna read a snippet

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<v Speaker 1>of it. The full thing is available at his at

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<v Speaker 1>his x feed at Ben SaaS he writes, quote, Friends,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a tough note to write, but since a

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>bunch of you have started to suspect something, I'll cut

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 1>to the chase. Last week I was diagnosed with metastasized

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>stage four pancreatic cancer, and I'm gonna die. Advanced pancreatic

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>is nasty stuff. It's a death sentence, but I already

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<v Speaker 1>had a death sentence. But before last week two we

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>all do. I'm blessed with amazing siblings and half a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen buddies that are genuinely brothers. As one of them

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<v Speaker 1>put it, sure you're on the clock, but we're all

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>on the clock. Death is a wicked thief, and the

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>bastard pursues us all. Look, it's a lot longer of

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<v Speaker 1>a post. I could read more of it, but I

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>think you get the gist of it. Frankly from there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I read this and I thought back to

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<v Speaker 1>my childhood. I grew up, among other things, as as

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<v Speaker 1>a diehard fan of the New York Yankees baseball team.

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<v Speaker 1>My childhood bedroom was something of a shrine to the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Yankees. We have partial season tickets. I watch

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<v Speaker 1>virtually every game in fact my brother and I are

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>are childhood baby sitters were actually these two brothers who

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<v Speaker 1>were both bat boys for the Yankees in the mid

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineties. So I grew up steeped in the Yankees

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<v Speaker 1>Lord and my favorite player in the history of baseball

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<v Speaker 1>was the Yankee great Lou Garrick, who many folks remember

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<v Speaker 1>for being the cleanup hitter when Babe Ruth was batting third.

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<v Speaker 1>He was rep behind Babe Ruth in the nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven Yankees lineup, one of the greatest lineups in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of Major League Baseball, and Garrigan de was oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>overshadowed by Babe Ruth. He was an extraordinary basil player

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<v Speaker 1>in his own right, but as extraordinary as he was

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<v Speaker 1>a player, he was arguably even more extraordinary as a

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<v Speaker 1>human being. He grew up dirt poor as the son

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<v Speaker 1>of German immigrants in New York City and then became

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest basil players of all time. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was dealt a tremendous blow when he was diagnosed

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<v Speaker 1>way way too young with als the disease that is

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<v Speaker 1>now known as Lou Gharrig's disease. And in this clip

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>that perhaps you have seen. If not, you should really

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>watch it. This grainy black and white footage from about

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>eighty five years ago. Now more or less, they brought

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<v Speaker 1>out lou Garrey that thats the Yankees in nineteen forty one,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was in the final year ish of his

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<v Speaker 1>life for lou Geyrig Appreciation Day. He also, like Ben Sas,

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<v Speaker 1>knew that he was going to die. And what Ben's

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, What lou Gareg famously said was he was

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<v Speaker 1>not there to cry and to bemoan his bad luck,

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<v Speaker 1>his bad a lot in life. What he said was

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<v Speaker 1>today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face

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<v Speaker 1>of the earth. He said that he may have caught

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 1>a bad break, but he had an awful lot to

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<v Speaker 1>live for. It's one of the most inspiring things that

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard from a pro athlete, or one of

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<v Speaker 1>most aspiring things that I've ever heard from from frankly anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw shades of that in Ben SAS's post

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. The first thing to say is I offer

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<v Speaker 1>my whatever it's wor, my absolute sincereous, heartfelt condolences both

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<v Speaker 1>the center Sass and to his family, his children. Unspeakable stuff. Truly,

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<v Speaker 1>I simply cannot even imagine him. The broader message, perhaps,

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<v Speaker 1>is this, this is the most wonderful time of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>As we say this stretch between Thanksgiving a late no

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<v Speaker 1>November and New Year's Day Christmas coming up this Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>It's a time of the year to take stock of

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<v Speaker 1>the most important things of family and congregation and community,

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<v Speaker 1>and your children, your loved ones, your faith, God Almighty

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<v Speaker 1>in the heavens, and we're all made in the image

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<v Speaker 1>of God. That's the truth of Genesis one, verse twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>the verse that changed all of human history for the better.

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<v Speaker 1>God loves each and every one of us. He loved

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<v Speaker 1>lou Garrig, not necessarily because Lou Gary was a Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of fam Basse player. He loved Lou Garrey because Louke

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<v Speaker 1>Garrey was one of his sons. He loves Ben Sas too,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily because Ben Sas was a senator or the

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<v Speaker 1>president of Universe Parry, not because Ben Sas was one

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<v Speaker 1>of his sons. He loves me, and he loves you too.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have so much to be grateful for, and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps maybe this would be a particularly good time to

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<v Speaker 1>give your loved ones a particularly large hug and remind

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<v Speaker 1>them that you really, truly do very much love them

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