1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Is regime change coming to Latin America? Is Nicholas Maduro 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: going to be in power for much longer in Caracas? 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: Plus a shockingly good GDP report when it comes to 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: the third quarter in the year twenty twenty five. Also 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: a mass exodus from the Heritage Foundation, the latest when 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: it comes to the Internet sign fighting and all the 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: chaos within the conservative movements. And Ben Satz, former Center 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: of Nebraska turned president of University of Florida sharing some 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: horrific news, but his attitude is an inspiring one. I've 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: got details on today's episode of the Josh Hammershaw. So 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: for months now, the United States has been upping the ante, 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: has impressuring Nicholas Maduro, the successor to Ugo Chavez in 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: the failed socialist regime in Venezuela. Perhaps you're familiar with 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: the story by now, but in case you are not, 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: that essentially goes as follows. For a very long time, 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Venezuela was one of the economic power horses, one of 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: the engines they are in South America. They were punching 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: way above their weight when it comes to GDP per 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: capita and when it comes to basic economic resources, primarily 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: because Venezuela, uniquely among the nations of Latin America, is 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: blessed when it comes to hydrocarbons. The well known oil 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: and gas company Citgo. You probably filled up your car 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: at some point over the years at a Sitco station. 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: That is a Venezuelan oil company. They are part of OPEK, 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: the only country in Latin America that really is a 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: major player when it comes to the global qalanities market 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: for oil. So for a very long time, Venezuela was 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: a powerhouse down there in Latin America. Argentina for a 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: while was that way as well, prior to their own 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: descent into socialism. We'll see if Javier Malay can salvage 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: that country. That perhaps is an analysis and a story 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: for another day. But when it comes to Venezuela, fast 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: forwarding more or less to the president to the present. 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: So Madure has been in power for a while now. 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: There was a dispute election in Venezuela about six and 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: a half years ago. There was another Trump backed candidate 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: who almost gone to power, and there have been all 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: sorts of allegations of corruption. But Udera has been in 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: powered there for a while now, and the trumpministration perhaps 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: unexpectedly on the one hand, but not wholly unspectively on 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: the other hand, and all on path that in just 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: a second, there has been really pushing quite hard when 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: it comes to Maduro in Venezuela. And now I say 44 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: unexpectedly on the one hand, because when you think of 45 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and as foreign policy, you don't necessarily think 46 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: of regime change. You necessarily think of warmongering and swashbuckling 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: looking to pick fights. However, if you look carefully at 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: the administration's foreign policies oction especially it's out of the 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: gates moves. We go all the way back to January 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: almost a year ago and now the beginning of administration, 51 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: it actually was in hindsight at least somewhat easy to 52 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: see this escalation campaign against Venezuela coming. And what I 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: mean by that is that Marco Rubio's very first trip, 54 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: his very first foreign trip as Secretary of State, was 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: actually to Latin America. It was two three different Latin 56 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: American countries, if memory, and he did that to make 57 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: a point. In fact, Maria Anastasia O'Grady, who is the 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: Latin Affairs called the Western Hemisphere columnists when at the 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal and has been for a very long time. 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: There. 61 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: She pointed this out in the first week or two 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: of the Trump administration, again going back almost a year ago, 63 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: because Rubio, this symbolism was not lost on his first venue, 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 1: his first choice of international trip in this hemisphere. And 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: this goes back a very long time. As we discussed 66 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: this on the show May Times. The Monroe Doctrine, which 67 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: eponymously goes back to the early nineteenth century President James Monroe, 68 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: which was corroborated by the Roosevelt Corollary, which was a 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: similar proclamation issued by Teddy Roosevelt in the first decade 70 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: of nineteen hundreds, and the Monroe Doctor the Trump Corollary, 71 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: which both more or less dand for the same principle, 72 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: is basically says the United States is not going to 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: shit back and let foreign powers meddle to mess in 74 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: our own hemisphere. You know, Gosh, Darner, We're gonna care 75 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: about our backyard. We're going to care about our backyard. 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: We're not gonna let you which back, and especially in 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: the era of Monroe, really meant to the European powers, 78 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: We're not going to let you meddle when it comes 79 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: to our concrete area of interest. This doctrine has actually 80 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: only become more important over the past call it fifteen 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five years, as the global economy has become 82 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: even more interconnected in a post Berlin Wall era, as 83 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: global terrorist networks, narco terrorists, shei hottest networks can now 84 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: continue to sprawl all across the world and exude a 85 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: lot of influence all across the world. Hesvola, for instance, 86 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: the Lebanese militia group backed by the Irani regime. Hesbola 87 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: has long had tremendous influence when it comes to Latin America. 88 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: They are very cosed with many of the leading human 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: trafficking rings and transnational cartels when it comes to drug 90 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: smuggling and things like that. The administration started to look 91 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: into this ended up actually, this is quite a scandal 92 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: that went under the radar. The Obomba Instration ends up 93 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: actually shelving ended up deep sixing their investigation into the 94 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: ties between HESBA and the Mexican narco terrorist groups for 95 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: the simple reason that they didn't want to actually upset 96 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: the apple cart when it came to their sycophantic diplomacy 97 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: with the Iranian regime. So pretty pretty crazy stuff, frankly 98 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to that. But again, Maduro is now 99 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: back in the news and trumpstry. The Trump Minstration is 100 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: reasserting this Monroe doctrine here. In fact, they actually are 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: now calling it the Trump corollary. There was recently unveiled 102 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: the Trump and National Security Strategy, this formal document that 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: the Trump Ministration revealed recently, and they're literally calling it 104 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: actually the Trump corollary, which is obviously a play on 105 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: the Roosevelt corollary from one hundred and twenty years ago. 106 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: More or less so, those campaign has been escalating for 107 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: months and months. One of the key parts of this 108 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: campaign has been a series of narco terrorist strikes when 109 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: it comes to the Pete Hechsath Secretary of War led 110 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: strikes on many of these vessels that are essentially engaged 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: in trying to smuggle drugs from Venezuela, worked with the 112 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: cartels gain them to the Caribbean Sea, gets to the 113 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: Gulf Mexican cog entering god forbid, here in Florida where 114 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: I live, or in Texas or one of the other 115 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: when the other ports there along the Gulf of Mexico 116 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: and the Atlantic seaboard. That is the primary stipulated reason 117 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: of the Hegseth led narco terrorist strikes, which we have 118 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: assistently defended here on the Josh Hammer Show as a 119 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: matter of both foreign policy and as legal principle when 120 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: it comes to both statutory and constitutional inherent authority under 121 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: Article to the Constitution to engage in such preemptive, prophylactic, 122 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: targeted precision strikes. Here we defend that time and time again, 123 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: and we will continue. 124 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: To do so. 125 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Part of the or more recent part, though, building off 126 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: of these narco terrorist strikes, which there have been now 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: roughly two dozen more or less of the strikes. Part 128 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: of that is an increasing campaign against Nicholas Maduro himself. 129 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: So President Trump took to truth social over the past 130 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: week or so to announce that there's going to be 131 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a blockade there on Venezuela. It's not entirely obvious exactly 132 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: what that means in practice, to the best of my 133 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: knowledge of the US Navy does not have the entire 134 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: country cordons off when it comes to the seas, but 135 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: certainly Donald Trump and and the administration are upping the 136 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: pressure tremendously. In fact, Donald Trump actually was just here 137 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: in Palm Beach, Florida. In South Florida yesterday, he was 138 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: flanked at his sides by Pete Heggsauth, the Secretary of War, 139 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: on one side, by Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, 140 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: on his other side, talking tough with Nicholas Maduro. So, 141 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: for instance, here was Donald Trump speaking yesterday in West 142 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: pomp Beach, Florida. 143 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: Why should Maduro take your threat serious seriously? 144 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: And whatever he wants, what's your end? 145 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: What's your end? 146 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: We could do so as he could do whatever he wants. 147 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: We have a massive armada for him, the biggest we've 148 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: ever had and by far the biggest we've ever had 149 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: in South America. 150 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: He could do whatever he wants. 151 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 2: Whatever he wants to do, if he wants to do something, 152 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: If he plays tough, it'll be the last time he's 153 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: ever able to play tough. 154 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: So this has been the rhetoric of administration for a 155 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: while now. Nicholas Turro, for what it's worth, we played 156 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: a clip on the show maybe a week or two ago, 157 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: is making very light of the situation. He had this 158 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: absurd clip of putting on like a Mexican sombrero looking 159 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: hat and singing in English non Spanish the Bob Marley 160 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: song Don't worry, be happy, I mean talk about not 161 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: taking the threat seriously. You know, maybe he will learn 162 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: learn the difficult lesson of not taking down trum seriously. 163 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: We shall see. Now another element of what's going on here. 164 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned that Venezuela has oil connections. Now, the Socials 165 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: regime has typically run the oil wells dry, but they 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: are very close to other major petroleum hydrocarbon exporting countries 167 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: such as Iran. Now, Iran is not really a hydrocarbon 168 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: exporting country right now because of the various crippling sanctions 169 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: that have been on the country for a very very 170 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: long time now, but they are still very cozy when 171 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: it comes to Iran. In fact, the second oil tanker 172 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: that was just seized over this past weekend, and there 173 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: are rumors of a possible third oil tanker seizure as 174 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: well that also has has alleged Iranian connections there. So 175 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump getting asked yesterday in West Palm Beach what 176 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: happens again to the oil, A question that he's been 177 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: asked before there. But here's Donald Trump again yesterday in 178 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: West pomp Beach, far speaking of Venezuela. 179 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: Man oil. What are we gonna do with the oil 180 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: that we have? 181 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with what the oil that has been seized. 182 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: The United States sees one point nine million barrels of 183 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: oil on December tenth. 184 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep it. 185 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: Where's it? 186 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: Are we gonna sell it and put in the strategic. 187 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: May We'll sell it, will keep it, maybe we'll use 188 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: it in the strategic reserves. 189 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: We're keeping it. We're keeping the ship. 190 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: So look, and that should be the reaction. I mean, 191 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: that should be the stance there if you're going to 192 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: get involved in the game of international seizure of oil 193 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 1: tankers sanctioned oil tankers. To be clear, and there is 194 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: plenty of legal justification for dealing with the United States 195 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: has done. The DOJ isn't working hard to get those 196 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: those legal memoranda and papers in place, And so far 197 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: I've been pretty persuaded by what I have seen there 198 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: from i legal front there. But when it comes to oil, 199 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, what else are you gonna do. 200 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Of course you're going to take oyal there. I mean 201 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: that's kndu's Donald Trump both troll and also taking the 202 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: common sense and just utterly logical position. Now the big 203 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: question is where does this go from here? Now? I 204 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: was filling in on radio earlier today for Mark Davis 205 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: on six sixty Am. The Answer the Sale and affiliate 206 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: in Dallas Fort Worth, and I brought on a guest, 207 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: Rich Goldberg, who's a foreign policy specialist, to talk about 208 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: this and other issues. Now. Rich is not particularly persuaded 209 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: that there's going to be massive escalatory action there. He 210 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: does not takes particularly seriously the threats of Shi Jimpang, 211 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: ro Vember, Photon, are various other Maduro Venezuelan allies to 212 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: get involved and to potentially meddle further. I think that's 213 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: probably accurate for the very simple reason that China and 214 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: Russia didn't lift a finger to try to rescue their 215 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: Iranian ally during the Israel Iran War during the Twelve 216 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: Day War back in June. This kind of went under 217 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: the radar a little bit there. But let's not forget 218 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: that Iran's vaunted allies. I mean, if you go back 219 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: to that and the whole argument that this conflict when 220 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: in Gulf America in World War Three, thousands and thousands 221 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: of dead US soldier, sailors, marines. That was the whole 222 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson argument. That argument was predica in the fact 223 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: that China and Russia would get involved. Okay, you can't 224 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: have World War three if it's just Iran. You need 225 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: China and Russia to get involved. There. They didn't. They 226 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: didn't lift a finger. They did absolutely positively nothing. So 227 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: what exactly these argument that they would get involved then 228 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: in venta as well as well. I think that rich 229 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: Goldberg frankly is right. I'm not buying the notion that 230 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: puter hu Jinping would bother to get involved. Putin still 231 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: has his hands more than full when it comes to 232 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Zelenski and the Ukrainian Theater. He's still sitting down with 233 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner when it comes to trying 234 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: to get some sort of deal inked out, ironed out 235 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: when it comes to trying to get off rammed here, 236 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: that he can politically live with, that he will not 237 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: be toppled for when in the Kremlin, that he can 238 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: take back to the Russian people, and that they will 239 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: not basically decapitate him out of frustration at at the results. 240 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: I don't think she Gimping is really going to get 241 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: involved either. H Jinping has plenty of his own problems 242 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: there when it comes to the Indo Pacific. The Chinese economy, incidentally, 243 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: is is really shrugging right now, and the real estate 244 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: market above all. So the notion that China go ahead 245 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: and over extend their influence when it comes to trying 246 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: to bail out what a socialist backwater that's dried out 247 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: the oil wells, I'm not really necessarily buying that either. 248 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: There. 249 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: Now, it's also true that the MAGA coalition, Donald Trump's 250 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: supporters did not necessarily vote for a land war. I 251 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: think that's a very common sense thing to say, is 252 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: that very few people who vote over Donald Trump thought 253 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: that they were voting for fresh hostilities and a regime 254 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: change war in Latin America. But the point is this. 255 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: The point is that there are any number of things 256 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: that the United States can do to try to softly 257 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: or more quietly, try to persuade Nicholas Maduro to step down, 258 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: to abdicate his leadership. Look at what happened to Bashar 259 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: al Assade. Now, admittedly that was led by a bunch 260 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: of ragtag Chihatis led by this guy al Shara who's 261 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: still currently in charge of Damascus. But after assad was 262 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: toppled in Damascus just about a year ago. Last December, 263 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: he was on the next plane to Moscow, and you 264 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: haven't heard his name since then. I mean he's essentially living, 265 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, as in the winn Is protection program, basically 266 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: Vladmir Putin in Russia style. That's what Bashar Alosad has 267 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: been doing for the past year now. So I think 268 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: the idea here, if I'm trying to guess what Donald 269 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Trump and Pete had Seth and Marco Ruby are thinking, 270 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: is to try to get Nicholas Maduro to take the 271 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: Bashar al Assade offer and then to abscond to China 272 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: or Russia or I mean maybe even Havana, Cuba, if 273 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: you want to get some nice cigars. I'm being tongue 274 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: in cheek. I don't think. I don't know why you 275 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: necessarily choose there. I think the Cuban regime is probably 276 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,359 Speaker 1: on thin ice too, for very similar reasons as Venezuela. 277 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: There's a lot of speculation that it could be two 278 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: for the price of one. If you get Maduro to abdicate, 279 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: maybe the Castro regime in Cuba could be next possible. 280 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: Probably wishful thinking, honestly, I mean, given how long they've 281 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: been in power. But they are very much tied at 282 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: the hip, is the basic argument there. I want you 283 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: to understand this point though. There are a lot of 284 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: folks in the right of center commentarian who have looked 285 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: at the failures of the United States when it comes 286 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: to a Rock and Afghanistan, and let's be very clear, 287 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: they are absolute failures. I have been critical for my 288 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: entire political commentary adult lifetime when it comes to the 289 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: foreign policy failures of Iraq and Afghanistan. I have been 290 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: deeply critical of the foreign policy doctrine that America has 291 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: an interest in exporting and promoting democracy, which is the 292 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: Bush two point zero neo conservative creed. That's not my stance. 293 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: My stance is basically the Donald Trump stance, which is 294 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: a conservative nationals realist form of foreign policy. There. But 295 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: a lot of folks who have also been shocked and 296 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: horrified by the Iraq and Afghanistan boondoggles have overlearned the 297 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: relevant lesson when it comes to so called regime change. 298 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: Regime change is not necessarily is not necessarily this horrific word, 299 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: hush hush, You can't say it that. A lot of 300 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: the folks on the hard isolationist Tucker wing of this 301 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: broader conversation want it to be we should be skeptical 302 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: of the United States imposing regime change unless, for instance, 303 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: they've already been grievously wounded. It would be a very 304 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: simple operation, like literally simple, not like quote unquote simple, 305 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: like we saw in Iraq and O three and so forth. 306 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: There. 307 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a very very limited case, limited case for 308 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: a true US imposed military game change there. But consider 309 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: the possibility that many, perhaps most, forms of regime change 310 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: don't have to happen from US military force. A regime 311 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: change taking a phase value, maybe I'm being literalists. Literally 312 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: just means a change in regime, and unless you're a moron, 313 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: you should be able to recognize. Indeed, it ought to 314 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: be axiomatic that there are various regimes around the world 315 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: that the American national interest would be buttressed by, would 316 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: be elevated by if that regime were not in power. 317 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: Is it not obvious that America's interest in the Indo 318 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: Pacific would in theory be better if there were a 319 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: regime change in Beijing, If the Chinese Communist Party were 320 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: to bow out and you get some reasonable actors in 321 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: place there really, of course, the American national interests would 322 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: be enhanced by that form of quote unquote regime change. 323 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: How about soft regime change in Russia if we got 324 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: a leader in the Kremlin who would just make total 325 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: peace with NATO. I mean, and this is kind of 326 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: like fairy land, you know, like the land of you know, 327 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: of unicorn farts and rainbows. Maybe it's kind of a 328 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: good dream. But I'm just making a theoretical intellectual point, 329 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: which is that, of course there are situations where there 330 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: could be a change in regime that were down to 331 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: the American national interest. And the very simple point is 332 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: that a change of the social regime in Venezuela is 333 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: one such case. Is that what's gonna happen here? Is 334 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: that how it's going to play out? Are we going 335 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: to get Nichols m Duro taking the bashar al asade options, 336 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: looking all this pressure around him, looking at Trump with 337 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: a tough talk, looking at the naval blockade, Trump talking 338 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: about this armada when it comes to the shifts again, 339 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's a literal three and sixty degree blockade. 340 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: But there are there's a lot of US military equipment 341 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: and vessels there now in US Southern Commands led by 342 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: the USS Gerald Ford Striker Group. Is Maduro going to 343 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: get the message? Is he banking on a bailout from 344 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: Putin or a huge imping that's not going to come. 345 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. Your mileage may vary there. But what 346 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I do know is that when it comes to the 347 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: notion of regime change, I would caution you against over learning, 348 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: against over learning the lessons of a rock in Afghanistan. 349 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: There are some regimes that really ought to go. There 350 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: are some regimes that, in theory them going would enhance 351 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: the American national interest. 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Watch the new trailer now at Pentragon Series 375 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: dot Com in other news taking it back to the 376 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: home front, because Venezuela is not the only thing going on. 377 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: I was doing live radio this morning when the latest 378 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: economic report came out, as have we now actually have 379 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: official government data on the Q three, that is Q 380 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: three twenty twenty five, most recent quarter. The ends when 381 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: it comes to the GDP gross domestic product growth. Those 382 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: numbers coming in courtesy of the US Commerce Department four 383 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: point three percent. The inflation just number is coming in 384 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: at four point three percent annualized growth for July through 385 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: September twenty twenty five. That is a lot higher. That 386 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: is a lot higher than what the eCOM is polled predicted. 387 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: The consensus that I saw was roughly a full point 388 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: lower than that three point two percent forecast was among 389 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: the cocomas polled by the Wall Street Journals a one 390 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: point one percent ahead of that. That's even an increase 391 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: when the previous quarter three point eight percent. So look, 392 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: whatever you might think about truck tariffs, and I think 393 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: reasonable minds can vary when it comes to trade in general. 394 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: When it comes to this trade off between lower prices 395 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: and domestic production, these are these These are these are 396 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: value judgments. These are value judgments upon which are reasonable 397 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: people who hold reasonable differing values can indeed disagree. But 398 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: whatever there is to say about that, the economy is reving, Okay, 399 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: the economy is clearly revving. And this is going to 400 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: be just further wined at Donald Trump's sales from his 401 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: speech at the White House last Wednesday evening, six days 402 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: ago where he gave this speech touting the economy and 403 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: saying that it's doing really well. And now there is 404 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: further evidence, I would say to tremendously really underscore the 405 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: exact point that that he is making. Again, the terriffs, 406 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: whatever I think of them, are clearly not having an 407 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: effect at all at all. For that matter, when it 408 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: comes to the gross domestic product, the terriffs went in place, 409 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: at least the first slew of them went to place 410 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: in early April. That was Donald Trump's so called Liberation 411 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: Day speech at the Rose Garden of the White House there. 412 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: And now we've had a quarter and a half, we've 413 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: had basically two quarters, close to two full quarters when 414 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: it comes to GDP data, and guess what, the ECAMI 415 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: is still just reving along just fine. Let's got now 416 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: in watch Mark Tepper of Strategic Wealth Partners at the CEO. 417 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: He was on Fox Business talking about this new GDP report. 418 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: We are looking right now at the GDP number at 419 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: four point three percent is the actual number versus an 420 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: estra of three point three percent? 421 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: Mark Tepper? 422 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: Your reaction, So last week we talked about inflation coming 423 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: in lower than expected. Now economic growth is one full 424 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: percentage point faster than expected. It was supposed to come 425 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: in at three point three, came in at four point three. 426 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 3: This is a direct result of everything President Trump has 427 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: put in place. Net exports are on the rise because 428 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: of Trump's tariff policy, which is leveling the trade playing field. 429 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 3: AI's increasing productivity, businesses are investing in spending, and the 430 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: consumer remains strong. And just think next I think, well, 431 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: next quarter they'll end up getting an extra one hundred 432 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 3: and fifty billion dollars in refund checks that they can 433 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: then deploy and spend as well. So great number. 434 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: Now, the key thing on the economy is this, Whatever 435 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: the data may say, as we was playing time and 436 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: time again, perception is politics in general, but especially when 437 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: it comes to the economy. So at the same time 438 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: that this excellent Q three GDP number is coming out, 439 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: I mean, four point three percent growth is really quite good. 440 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Is already speaking, what you really seek to achieve in 441 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: a first world developed a community like the US is 442 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: over three percent growth, four or five or five plus 443 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: percent growth. That's that's really desirable, really desirable there. So 444 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: this is this is number of the Donald Trump should 445 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: be proud of. At the same time. At the same time, 446 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: there was a poll that I saw from over the weekend, 447 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: a poll that was that was conducted by the American 448 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: Research Group that I saw trending on social media that said, 449 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: is your household financial situation better or worse off than 450 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: it was a year ago? And unfortunately for the President, 451 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: this poll showed sixty five percent American and say that 452 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: their household finanal situation is actually worse off compared to 453 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: last year, compared to seven percent that say it is 454 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: better off. The rest say that there's been no real change. 455 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: That's a problem. Now, making that connection between actual raising, 456 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: elevating GDP, actual macroeconomic data more generally that is trending 457 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: in a sound direction when it comes to inflation, when 458 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: it comes to GDP, when it comes to all the 459 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: various metrics there. Making that connection between that, and then 460 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: making the median American person actually feel that that is 461 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: easier said than done. That is the role for statesmen, 462 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: That is the role for first class politicians there. But 463 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: at least when it comes to the messaging, what we've 464 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: encouraged the President and his team to do on this 465 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: show is to try to show as much empathy as possible. 466 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: Don't be raped the American people. Don't say the ecmmyne 467 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: is great, you should be grateful for it. That is 468 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: the mistake that Joe Biden made. That's a mistake that Kareem, 469 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: Jean Pierre and the other idiots of the Biden regime 470 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: did over and over and over again. They epically botched 471 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: the commune. That's how we got to nine point one 472 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: er scent inflation three and a half years ago. In 473 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: the summer twenty twenty two, they epically boss you, and 474 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: then they say, basically, shut up and be grateful for it. 475 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: That's not a winning message. That is not a winning message, guys. 476 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Trump's doing that, by the way, 477 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: but I did hear at least some shades of that. 478 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: During his talk at the White House last week. He also, correctly, 479 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: into his great credit emphasized this is very much a 480 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: work in progress as well, so good, so continue to 481 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: emphasize that it's a work in progress. I understand that 482 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: some of you are not necessarily feeling what the economy 483 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: and the economists tell me is happening with the data there. 484 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: We are working every day to make sure that you 485 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: can fill up your truck at the pump and not 486 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: have to worry about breaking the bank count. I want 487 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: to make sure that you can go to the grocery 488 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: store and make sure that you're not making any trade 489 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: offs when it comes to what to feed your family 490 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: over the weekend. You know, basic things like that. Just 491 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: show a little more empathy, frankly, and I think that 492 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: would actually go a very long way. But for now, 493 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: the economic data looking really, really, really good when it 494 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: comes to the Trump administration, and that is a tremendous 495 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: credit fring. That is to the great credits of Kevin 496 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: assets to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and really just all 497 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: the folks general there, Scot p Assent of the Treasury Secretary, 498 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: all the folks on the economic team, they deserve a 499 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: lot of a credit. 500 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: Now. 501 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: I mentioned at the outset, and this is all staying 502 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC. This exodus of talent from the Heritage 503 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Foundation is starting to make some ways so to recavocate 504 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: you even follow this story and we'll cut up the 505 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: chase quickly here because this happened a while ago at 506 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: this point there in late October, shortly after Tucker Carlson 507 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: hosted the Neo Nazi Nick Funtiss on a show for 508 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: a puffball interview. Shortly after that, Kevin Roberts, the president 509 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: of the Herridge Foundation, released a pretty horrific video. And 510 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: I don't like christ and Kevin because I've had very 511 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: cordial relations with Kevin for many years. I think he's 512 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: a decent human being. But he made an egregious error 513 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: here in this video. And he basically defended the video 514 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: and staid there's essentially nothing Tucker could do that would 515 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: make him persona non grata when it comes to a 516 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: relationship with him at the Heritage Foundation. And the repercussions 517 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: have been nothing less than astonishing. This entire anti Semitism 518 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: task force that they had set up a Heritage left. 519 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: They lost various members of the board's trustees, a handful 520 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: of them actually by now, they lost some of their 521 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: most iconic senior fellows at the organization, people like Chris Dumouth, 522 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: people like Stephen Moore, And now just over the past 523 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: few days, somewhere between a dozen and a half and 524 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: two dozen employees, including the vast bulk of the economic 525 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: team and the legal team, have picked up and left 526 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: from the Herriage Foundation. They've either been fired or they've resigned, 527 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: including people who've been affiliate with Heritage for a very 528 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: long time. I mean to name just one name, Hans 529 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: von Spakowski, who is a specialist when it comes to 530 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: election law, when it comes to voter fraud, when it 531 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: comes to election integrity, illegal immigration. Hans is a first 532 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: rate scholar. He's been a Heritage for a very long time, 533 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: one of the national experts in his particular field. He resigned. 534 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: He resigned just yesterday, literally hours actually after he was 535 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: made the inter head or interim co head of the 536 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: Mease Legal Center, because the rest of the Legal Center 537 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: was either fired or resigned. By the way, the MEAs 538 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: of the Edwin Meaes Legal Center is a former Ronald 539 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: Reagan Attorney General, Edwin Mests, who's long and doubted that position. 540 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: He actually went ahead himself and took his namesake. He 541 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: took the me Center. That is literally Ronald Reagan Attorney General, 542 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: took the me Center out of Heritage and moved it 543 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: with most of the rest of the staff to AAF 544 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: Americans Advancing Freedom, which is the organization affiliated with Mike Pence. 545 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: Now we're not huge Mike Penn's fans necessarily here on 546 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: the show, and we can quit bal as to whether 547 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: or not that organization is going to save the day 548 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: when it comes to the American rights. I think probably not. 549 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: And I would have liked to have seen some of 550 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: these folks who were either shown the door or resign 551 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: Heritage end up at some other organization that didn't have 552 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: the taint of Mike Pence. But this is just a massive, massive, 553 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: five alarm fire at this point for the Heritage Foundation. 554 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: And it's very difficult, frankly for me to see how 555 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: they can how they can restore their credibility. I mean, 556 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: what exactly can you do at this point? You've lost 557 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: god knows how much money when it comes to donations, 558 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: You've lost god knows how much influence when it comes 559 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: to various members of the board who resigns, when it 560 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: comes to senior fellows of some of your most iconic people. 561 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: There what exactly is left of the Heritage Foundation team? 562 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: And I won't reveal sources, but I'm still friendly or 563 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: friends with plenty of people inside the building and the 564 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation headquarters. And what I am told what I 565 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: am told is that if bad people are hired to 566 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: replace the folks who left. So if they want to 567 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: double down on this Tucker friendly direction, they want to 568 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: hire a bunch of groper economists, for instance, whatever the 569 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: heck that even means, then I think there are going 570 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: to be other divisions, other teams of scholars at Heritage 571 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: who will exit stage left asap. So this is nothing 572 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: less than a catastrophic self inflicted wound. And if it's 573 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: self inflicted wounds that came from the place of doctor 574 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 1: Robert speaking of a half Heritage, that they are no 575 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: longer actually valuating principles and convictions and policies and subjective ideas. 576 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: What it means to be conservative? What is conservatism? What 577 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: is the American rights? Why does this matter? 578 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: There? 579 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: Rather announced Kevin Roberts in this now infamous video. He 580 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: announced that they are going to prioritize, among other things, 581 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: their relationship with Tucker Carlson. And this has been just 582 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: part of this now two month long saga. It's a 583 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: story that's not dying. I mean, I mean, it's kind 584 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: of crazy. Here, We're almost two months after this and 585 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: you're still having this mass excess of people from Heritage. 586 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: Where does it end? I have no idea, And frankly, 587 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: for the folks who are currently on the board at Heritage. 588 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: How are you guys letting this happen exactly? I mean, 589 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: how are you letting this much damage, this much carnage 590 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: happened to the institution. You know, that's frankly another question 591 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: that also be asked here as well. But this is this, 592 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: of course, happening in the broader context of the turning 593 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Point USA and FEST conference that we spoke about a 594 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: great length on yesterday's show. This ongoing debate as to 595 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: what the right stand for, what are the parameters, what 596 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: who is part of the rights, who is not part 597 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: of the rights. Should we listen to certain crank conspiracy 598 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: podcasters or should we not? Interesting clip that I came 599 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: across from Mike Huckabee, former governor of Arkansas, currently the 600 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: US Ambassador to Israel, all rounds, good men, good American. 601 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: But where does that come from? You know, there's a 602 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: difference between dom and ignorant. Dumb is that a person 603 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: cannot process information. They just don't have the capacity. They 604 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: don't have an operating system, if I put it, than 605 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: computer language. Ignorance is that the data isn't there. What 606 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: we're dealing with is not an operating system problem. It's 607 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: a data problem. We have not downloaded the proper data, 608 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: the correct, the true data, into the minds of younger people, 609 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: and we've assumed that they're going to grow up intellectually 610 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: curious and intellectually honest, and that they will look for themselves. 611 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: But they're not. That's the problem. They're not looking. They're 612 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: taking it face value, what some podcaster says, and the 613 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: result is absolutely dangerous. 614 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: It's well said, it's well said. Look, our responsibility as 615 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: folks in the information business, as we discussed on yesterday's show, 616 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: is to elevate you. It is not to deflate you. 617 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: We are here to inform you, to give you informed, reasonable, 618 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: hopefully at least a semi sophisticated commentary on the day's events, 619 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: on the affairs of the day, of the week, the month, 620 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: and so forth. There those who are involved in something 621 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: quite different than that, who are involved in what I 622 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: like to refer to as a brain rot op, in 623 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: a sprawling brain rot operation, they do not deserve your respect. 624 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: They don't deserve your time, your clicks, your download, or 625 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: your concern. And at a certain point, if these folks 626 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: who think of themselves as being part of the coalition 627 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: are doing so much incredible damage to undermine that coalition's 628 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: very vitality, that coalitions very chances of success when it 629 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: comes to the ballot box, when it comes of defeating 630 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: our actual threats, which is the left something that I 631 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: couldn't agree more on than at some point those folks 632 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: perhaps not actually in the coalition. At the end of day, 633 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: if you were undermining your own purported cause, consider the 634 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: possibility that you were actually not part of that cause. 635 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: If you are consistently shooting yourself in the foot at best, 636 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: or trying to sabotage things at worse, then consider the 637 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: possibility that you're out. There's no need to just continually welcome, welcome, Welcome, 638 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: into the tent there. So again, I think that there 639 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: was part of this is a noble backlash against the 640 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: cancel culture wars for a long time, and I was 641 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: very passionate about this. I've dedicated a lot of time 642 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: speaking and writing and talking legal theory when it comes 643 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: to Section two thirty in anti trust and common carriation. 644 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time unpacking America is big 645 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: tech censorship issue been a major major theme of our 646 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: show and my writings outside the show for a long time. 647 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: But to say that it was wrong for mainstream conservatives 648 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: to be censored shadow band or d platforms during the 649 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: Jack Dorsey era of Twitter for talking about things like 650 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop or about how transgenderism is alive. 651 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: That is very different. Righteous combination of shadow banning and 652 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: deplatforming for things like that. That is very different than 653 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: fast forward to today. For saying that it's quote unquote 654 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: cancelation to simply criticize someone else within the alleged purporterfold. 655 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: Because that's what they're saying about those of us who 656 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: don't have a problem speaking up against the Tucker Carlson, 657 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Candice owns a Sammy. They're telling us that we're engaged 658 00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 1: in cancelation. What again, No one's trying to cancel anyone. 659 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: This is a free country. Go to rumble, go to YouTube, 660 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: go to your Instagram, meals, TikTok, whatever the hell you 661 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: want to do, go get on there and monetize it 662 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: to your heart's content. That's fine with me, That's fine 663 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: with anyone. I know. What we're saying here is who 664 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: is part of the twenty twenty eight coalition. And the 665 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: more that you welcome in the crazies. The more that major, 666 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: major iconic concern institutions like the hairsmon Nation play foot 667 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: seat with the crazies, the greater the chances of a 668 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: president's gavenusmwhere president aocr This is the part that I 669 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: wish more people understood. For every eighteen or nineteen year 670 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: old basement dwelling graper that you're trying to bring into 671 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: the coalition, you're going to repulse three, four or five 672 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: relative normies, Hispanics, black men, Jews, all the various groups 673 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 1: that were coming increasingly to the Trump coalition, this whole 674 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: notion of the multi ethnic working class coalition. How many 675 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: times do we hear that buzzword? We heard a lot 676 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: because it was a real thing, young people. For goodness sake, 677 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: all these former elements of the Obama coalition have been 678 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: trending right word. It's an amazing thing. Don't mess it up. 679 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: I see a lot of people, frankly, that are interested, 680 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: if nothing else, in trying to muddy the waters, potentially 681 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: even mess this up. And that causes me great concern, 682 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: not really frankly as a Jew, but as an American 683 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: who wants to see America prevail. And the only way 684 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: that America prevails is for the right to prevail, and 685 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: the right must be capable of prevailing, have the intellectual 686 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: fortitude to actually prevail, and that means, frankly, patrolling our 687 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: own boundaries. One final notes for today's show, and it's 688 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: something of a somber one. Ben sass the former senator 689 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: from from Nebraska and he became most recently the president 690 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: of the University of Florida. Your mileage may vary on 691 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: Ben Sas as an individual. I certainly was not the 692 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: greatest fan of all of his exploits in the US Senate. 693 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: Sanctimonious Sassis on my former Senate staffers calt him and 694 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: those all sorts of investigative work from his time at 695 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: the University of Florida showing potential corruption there. Okay, your 696 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: mileage to me very like I said there. And I've 697 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: had my I've had my own prisons. But none of 698 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: that's really relevant for the posts that he posted earlier today. 699 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: And it's uh, it's really quite hard wrenching, galling stuff. 700 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: So Ben Sas posted I'm only gonna read a snippet 701 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: of it. The full thing is available at his at 702 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: his x feed at Ben SaaS he writes, quote, Friends, 703 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: this is a tough note to write, but since a 704 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: bunch of you have started to suspect something, I'll cut 705 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: to the chase. Last week I was diagnosed with metastasized 706 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: stage four pancreatic cancer, and I'm gonna die. Advanced pancreatic 707 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: is nasty stuff. It's a death sentence, but I already 708 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: had a death sentence. But before last week two we 709 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: all do. I'm blessed with amazing siblings and half a 710 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: dozen buddies that are genuinely brothers. As one of them 711 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: put it, sure you're on the clock, but we're all 712 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: on the clock. Death is a wicked thief, and the 713 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: bastard pursues us all. Look, it's a lot longer of 714 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: a post. I could read more of it, but I 715 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: think you get the gist of it. Frankly from there, 716 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: you know. I read this and I thought back to 717 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: my childhood. I grew up, among other things, as as 718 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: a diehard fan of the New York Yankees baseball team. 719 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: My childhood bedroom was something of a shrine to the 720 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: New York Yankees. We have partial season tickets. I watch 721 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: virtually every game in fact my brother and I are 722 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: are childhood baby sitters were actually these two brothers who 723 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: were both bat boys for the Yankees in the mid 724 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties. So I grew up steeped in the Yankees 725 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: Lord and my favorite player in the history of baseball 726 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: was the Yankee great Lou Garrick, who many folks remember 727 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: for being the cleanup hitter when Babe Ruth was batting third. 728 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: He was rep behind Babe Ruth in the nineteen twenty 729 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: seven Yankees lineup, one of the greatest lineups in the 730 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: history of Major League Baseball, and Garrigan de was oftentimes 731 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: overshadowed by Babe Ruth. He was an extraordinary basil player 732 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: in his own right, but as extraordinary as he was 733 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: a player, he was arguably even more extraordinary as a 734 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: human being. He grew up dirt poor as the son 735 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: of German immigrants in New York City and then became 736 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: one of the greatest basil players of all time. And 737 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: he was dealt a tremendous blow when he was diagnosed 738 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: way way too young with als the disease that is 739 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: now known as Lou Gharrig's disease. And in this clip 740 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: that perhaps you have seen. If not, you should really 741 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: watch it. This grainy black and white footage from about 742 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: eighty five years ago. Now more or less, they brought 743 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: out lou Garrey that thats the Yankees in nineteen forty one, 744 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: when he was in the final year ish of his 745 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: life for lou Geyrig Appreciation Day. He also, like Ben Sas, 746 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: knew that he was going to die. And what Ben's 747 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: excuse me, What lou Gareg famously said was he was 748 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: not there to cry and to bemoan his bad luck, 749 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: his bad a lot in life. What he said was 750 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face 751 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: of the earth. He said that he may have caught 752 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: a bad break, but he had an awful lot to 753 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: live for. It's one of the most inspiring things that 754 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: I've ever heard from a pro athlete, or one of 755 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: most aspiring things that I've ever heard from from frankly anyone. 756 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: And I saw shades of that in Ben SAS's post 757 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: this morning. The first thing to say is I offer 758 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: my whatever it's wor, my absolute sincereous, heartfelt condolences both 759 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: the center Sass and to his family, his children. Unspeakable stuff. Truly, 760 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: I simply cannot even imagine him. The broader message, perhaps, 761 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: is this, this is the most wonderful time of the year. 762 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: As we say this stretch between Thanksgiving a late no 763 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: November and New Year's Day Christmas coming up this Thursday, 764 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: It's a time of the year to take stock of 765 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: the most important things of family and congregation and community, 766 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: and your children, your loved ones, your faith, God Almighty 767 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: in the heavens, and we're all made in the image 768 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: of God. That's the truth of Genesis one, verse twenty seven, 769 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: the verse that changed all of human history for the better. 770 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: God loves each and every one of us. He loved 771 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: lou Garrig, not necessarily because Lou Gary was a Hall 772 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: of fam Basse player. He loved Lou Garrey because Louke 773 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: Garrey was one of his sons. He loves Ben Sas too, 774 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: not necessarily because Ben Sas was a senator or the 775 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: president of Universe Parry, not because Ben Sas was one 776 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: of his sons. He loves me, and he loves you too. 777 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: We all have so much to be grateful for, and 778 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: perhaps maybe this would be a particularly good time to 779 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: give your loved ones a particularly large hug and remind 780 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: them that you really, truly do very much love them 781 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: as smartophos. Hope you like and subscribe to The Josh 782 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: hammershow wherever you get your podcast or video fee if 783 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,720 Speaker 1: you're just listening to show our video fee is available 784 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: at Newsweek's YouTube page, also available at the Salem News 785 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: Channel Salemnewschannel dot com. But for now, Josh Hammer is 786 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: signing off Onnday's episode of The Josh Hammers