1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's podcast, sponsored by Hillsdale College. All thanks 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: hilldalet Hillsdale dot edu. I encourage you to take advantage 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: of the many free online courses there, and of course 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: I listen to the Hilldale Dialogue all of them at 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: q for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple, iTunes 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: and Hillsdale. 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: Guest hosting for the Great HU Hewitt. I am a 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: retired United States Army colonel. I am a former Los 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: Angeles trial lawyer. I'm the senior columnist of Toown Hall 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: dot com, and I am thrilled. I am thrilled today 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: to jump right in with my first guest, someone I 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: wanted to talk to for a long time, Sator Susan 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: Collins from the great state of Maine. Welcome to the 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: U Hewitt Show. 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Kurt. I'm a big admirer of yours, 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: the end of Hughes and it's great to join you today. 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: Well, boy, that's nice of you to say, Sator Collins. 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Will you aware that you have a rabid fan base 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: against the kind of hardcore conservatives like me who think 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: Genghis Khan was a little squishy? 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: Did you did you? 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: Did you? 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: Did you know? We were out there cheering you on. 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: I'm delighted to hear that. And I do meet several 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: people who recognize that I come from a state, indeed 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: a region, from the country, New England, where I am 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: the sole remaining Republican left in either the House or 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: the Senate in those six New England states. That's a 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: huge change from the way it used to be. 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm a military guy. You know, it 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: reminds me of the British holding out at Rourke's drift 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: against overwhelming forces. But you've got you've got a big 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: election coming up, and you're you're facing uh, well, you're 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: not sure which You've got two primary opponents. One of 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: them's maple syrup Spanberger, the other's maple syrup Stormtrooper. How 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: do you send how do you assess this Democrat primary? 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: Well, I've tried to stay out of the primary, but 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: I'll tell you I've watched it with great fascination. We've 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: got a two term liberal governor who is leaving the 40 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: state in bad condition fiscally, from a tax perspective, education, 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: you name it. She is the one Janet Mills who 42 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: had the big fight with President Trump where I'm solidly 43 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 3: on President Trump's site about transgender athletes competing in girls 44 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: and women's sports. I don't think that's fair. I think 45 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: it's contrary to the whole purpose Subtitle nine to provide 46 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: athletic opportunities to. 47 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 5: Girls and women. 48 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: But Janet Mills is on the signe of on the 49 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: side of having transgender athletes be able to compete on 50 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: girls sports teams, and I just don't think that's fair 51 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: or say. And then on the other side is a 52 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: guy named Graham Platner. He appears that well, he is 53 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: advised by the same people who advised mon Damie in 54 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 3: New York, and he is incredible. He's the one who 55 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: had a Nazi tattoo for eighteen years on his chest 56 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: and then pretended that he didn't know what it meant. 57 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: Not very credible, but he has been endorsed by Bernie Zanders. 58 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: Governor Mills has been endorsed by Chuck Schumer. So it's 59 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: going to be very interesting. 60 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: Primary Well, Senator Collins, I'm not sure what's worse with 61 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: this Grand Platin or guy that he he had a 62 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: Nazi tattoo etched into his pecks and didn't know what 63 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: it was, or he had a Nazi tattoo etched into 64 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: his pecks, and he did. I mean, look, I'm a Californian. 65 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: I've been to Maine once I saw him moose. It 66 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: was a beautiful state. But Maine Maners are are different Maners. 67 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: You know, they're stubborn. Of course, the twentieth Maine under 68 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: Joshua Chamberlain famously saved the Union Line at Gettysburg. And 69 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: I am a military guy, and. 70 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: You guys do your own thing. 71 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: And I just don't see, you know, someone who's very, 72 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: very liberal but pretending not to be, or almost an 73 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: outright communist with you know, a little of the SS 74 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: kind of blended on in. I just don't see the 75 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: state going for them when they have you who they 76 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: know and they trust. And I understand that you walk 77 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: down the street and you pretty much know everyone you meet. 78 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: Well, I've worked very hard for the state of Maine, 79 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: and part of that is showing up for work. I 80 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: have never missed the role called vote in all of 81 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: my years in the Senate. That's a record, and it 82 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 3: reflects the work ethic that I learned growing up in 83 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: the great State of Maine. And you're right, Mainers like 84 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: common sense they're pragmatic, and they're famously independent in how 85 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: they vote. In twenty twenty, when a lot of the 86 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: posters just wrote me up, I've won by nine percentage 87 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: points in a state that Joe Biden carried by nine 88 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: percentage points, so they often split their ticket. And you're 89 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 3: right that I've had the great pleasure and honor of 90 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: getting to know many of my fellow Maynards personally. That's 91 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: an advantage of representing a state of one point three 92 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: million people. 93 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: Well, one thing we hardcore conservative Susan Collins fans real 94 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 2: respect is you not only stand up for your state, 95 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: but just stand up for the country too. Right now, 96 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: we're trying to rebuild our military, particularly the Navy, which 97 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: of course hurts me because I'm an army guy. But 98 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: you got prioritize You've of course got the bath Iron 99 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: works up there, and you are a senior appropriator. 100 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: How are you how is your work. 101 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: To build up the navy by building up what's going 102 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: on at your shipbuilding facilities, helping our navy get back 103 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: to the pre eminent status it should have. 104 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: Well, you've raced a really import or issue because under 105 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: the Biden administration, the Biden administration was not funding our 106 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: military as it should have. It wasn't deeven compensating for inflation. 107 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: And we used to have the biggest navy in the world. 108 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: Now we have two hundred ninety three battle force ships 109 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: and China has three hundred ninety five and it's projected 110 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: to exceed four hundred and thirty five ships by the 111 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: year twenty thirty. That is inexcusable. So I have worked 112 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: very hard to try to increase the size of our 113 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: naval fleet so that and we've learned how important it 114 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: is by the operations in the Dead Sea, for example, 115 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: in taking on the missiles from a ron during the 116 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: Twelve Day War. So that is something where I'm very 117 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: proud of the contributions that main makes. We do have 118 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: bat Ironworks, which builds the best destroyers imaginable. And there 119 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: are only two combatant shipyards left in surface combatant shipyards 120 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: left in the United States, and I'm very proud of 121 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: one is in the state of Maine. And we also 122 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: punch above our weight by having the Portsmouth Nable Shipyard 123 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: and Kiddery, Maine, which overhauls and refuels nuclear submarines. And 124 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: we have a pre Whitney plant that makes parts for 125 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: the F thirty five. So those are always that Main contributes. 126 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: But I'm looking not only at the fact that it 127 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: produces great job some Maine and that Main contribute so 128 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: much to our national security, but the fact that we 129 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: were able to this year increased our defense spending and 130 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: provide a pay raise of three point eight percent. 131 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you, Senator Collins. I really appreciate 132 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: you coming on the Hugh Hewitt Show. Good luck in 133 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: your run against Maple Syrup Spamberger and Maple Syrup Stormtrooper. 134 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter. We got a lot more 135 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: to come to stick around. Welcome back to the Hrewitt 136 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: Show and guest host Kurt Schlichter. Among my other resume entries, 137 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: thirty year trial lawyer. 138 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 4: I fought the law. I don't think the law won. 139 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: I think I think it was a I think it 140 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: was a push. I'm joy now by a guy who 141 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: is my lawyer, who has been my lawyer in the past, 142 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: who is a Supreme Court litigator and an all around 143 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: great guy, my friend run coleman Esquire, Hi Ron, Welcome 144 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: to Hugh hewittt Show. 145 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 5: No Weak readings from New Jersey. 146 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: Card Well, I'm in California. We're sharing the misery. Hey, 147 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: you have litigated at the Supreme Court. You're a federal 148 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: court litigator. I've litigated in the federal courts, and I 149 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: think a lot of people out there don't really understand 150 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: kind of what's happening. 151 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: They have a sense. 152 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: That this doesn't sound right, And my contention is they're 153 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: absolutely correct. I think the district courts particularly, but also 154 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: the higher courts, circuit courts of APO and the Supreme 155 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: Court are literally going insane. 156 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: Am I off base? 157 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 6: No? 158 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 7: And anyone who doesn't understand isn't very good company because 159 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 7: it is incomprehensible. 160 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 8: You know. 161 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 5: It's one thing to say. 162 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 7: Judges have political preferences and some of them are activist 163 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 7: with perspect to certain issues, but examination, I mean, look, 164 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 7: we know that there are a couple of judges back 165 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 7: at where you are, and there are a couple of 166 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 7: judges in Boston, and there's a judge in Maryland. You know, 167 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 7: there are lunatic judges who have been the go to 168 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 7: judges for crazy orders. But what really makes you wonder 169 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 7: about whether we can get anything done at all is 170 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 7: what happened in the District of Columbia federal courts, both 171 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 7: at the appellate level and far more at the district 172 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 7: court level, including in the courtroom of a judge before 173 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 7: whom I had a very successful trial outcome almost a 174 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 7: year ago today on a non political case. 175 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 5: Of the chief judge. 176 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 7: There The only way to describe it, Kurt is a 177 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 7: mind virus. It's so irrational. Have these, especially DC, but 178 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 7: many many other district court judges who have been traditionally 179 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 7: a cadre of people that you can count on. 180 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 5: To basically called both the strikes. That's over. We lost that. 181 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: Well, ron uh, you know, I would go to court, 182 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: federal court. I argue in front of the Ninth Circuit. 183 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: I think the smartest judge I argued in front of 184 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: the Ninth Circuit was a guy named Paul Watford who 185 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: was appointed by Obama and he is a very liberal guy. 186 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: I was in a totally non political case. Guy asked 187 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: brilliant questions, totally prepared. There were other judges who were 188 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: well not so great. 189 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 6: You know, And. 190 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: You know people say, well, I've never lost a trial, Oh, 191 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: you've done two trials in your life, because I mean, 192 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: it's it's crazy talk. They don't understand that for normal cases, 193 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: judges are usually normal. Every once in a while you 194 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: get one of they go against you. Sometimes you're, oh, okay, 195 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: I understand why I don't agree, but the other guys 196 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: had had some good points and you know, okay, I lost. 197 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: Are times they not not a great ruling, but this stuff, 198 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: you know when they're when instead of citing actual law, 199 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: they use huge block quotes of nineteen eighty four. That's 200 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: that doesn't happen in the regular practice of law. 201 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 7: Well, and that tells you as a general rule, I'm 202 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 7: pretty sure that they're letting clerks go to town in 203 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 7: writing those opinions. I remember about twenty years ago when 204 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 7: people started when clerks started slipping lyrics from the talking 205 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 7: heads into opinions and stuff like that was sort of 206 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 7: like a high mom kind of gag. 207 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 5: But we're past that now. 208 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 7: I mean, we've had district court judges, including judges show 209 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 7: you know, nominated by Republicans, and that's let's tick a pin. 210 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 5: In that topic. Yeah, come back to yes who have. 211 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 7: It's essentially excreted their their their mental affluent into opinions 212 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 7: and in a way that just would have been unthinkable 213 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 7: before because of what Donald Trump does to normal minds. Look, 214 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 7: and you've got You've got to Have you ever been 215 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 7: in front of U. Brier the Younger, No, I never was. 216 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: He sits in San Francisco, that would be the Northern District, California. 217 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: I've been in other courts. 218 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 7: He is an incredibly you know I'm saying this, but 219 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 7: but really intellectually dishonest. 220 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 221 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: I mean there's a guy who just. 222 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 7: You know, I spoke when you and I last saw 223 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 7: each other, and impression we were both at mat Cony 224 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 7: and my subject there. 225 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: Was the socialization of the judiciary, and. 226 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 7: I think a lot of people were duck by some 227 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 7: of the points I was making about how judges. 228 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 5: Judges are people somewhat like you. 229 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 7: And me, different in many ways, but make less. They 230 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 7: have friends, they have colleague, they have families. They look 231 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 7: to see what other people are saying, but also, unlike 232 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 7: when you and I were starting out, they look to 233 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 7: see what or their or their neighbors look to see 234 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 7: what is the real time reaction to what they're doing. Yes, 235 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 7: that's true. Now you mentioned the Republican nominated judge. Let's 236 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 7: stick a pin in it. Well, let's stick a pin 237 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 7: and deflate that whole notion. 238 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: Why is it that Republican judges appointed by a Republican 239 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: sometimes sound like judges appointed by Biden. 240 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 5: So there are three reasons. 241 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 7: One is, there are a lot of judges that have 242 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 7: always been kind of a political. Political chops were not 243 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 7: really as much of a part of the job description 244 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:21,119 Speaker 7: of a federal judge as they are now. So sometimes 245 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 7: someone would approach a Republican or a Democrat in the 246 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 7: White House to say, you know, here's a guy who 247 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 7: should be a judge, and it's not. 248 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 5: Depending on the district there. 249 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 7: Look in New York, there's a line out the door 250 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 7: for Southern District of New York. 251 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 5: Yes, judge ships. But in other. 252 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 7: Districts where the salary goes a lot further yep, and 253 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 7: where there are a lot fewer really experienced, really highly 254 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 7: able candidates, it's a pretty plumb job. That's one reason. 255 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 7: Another reason is the blue slip system by which the Senate, 256 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 7: in its characteristic method of self castration, has you know, 257 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 7: and in an environment where college reality once meant something, 258 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 7: or at least it seemed to mean something, said hey, 259 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 7: let's out of respect for the state senator from a 260 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 7: given state, the president is going to give that senator 261 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 7: essentially veto power over who was nominated from his state. 262 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 7: There's no reason on earth to continue that practice. 263 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: It's a disaster for the courts of appeal. 264 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 7: Right they only for district court and which which are 265 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 7: always always contained by one state. 266 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, that's uh, that's our time. We could 267 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: go on and on about the court system. And if 268 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: you want to hear more from Rawn, go find the 269 00:17:58,680 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: Ron Coleman podcast. 270 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: I been on it. 271 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: It is terrific. He is one of the smartest cats 272 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: out there. I know I've hired it. I'm Kurt Schlichter, 273 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: guest host for the Great Hugh Hewitt. 274 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show. 275 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: IM guest has Kurt Schlichter, the senior Promistownhall dot com, 276 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: thirty year trial lawyer and as relevant especially here, retired 277 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: United States Army Infantry colonel. And when I retired about 278 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: eleven years ago, I made a commitment to attempt to 279 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 2: avoid interacting with flag officers to the extent possible. I'm 280 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 2: making an exception for this one. Admiral Mark Montgomery is 281 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: here and we're going to talk about Iran, Sir, how 282 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: are you doing today? 283 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 6: Hey fine, Dicky Kirk, good to see you, and thanks 284 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 6: for a green to talk with an admiral. 285 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: Well, you're also in the navy like my entire family, 286 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm the green sheep. But let's make this a joint operation, 287 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: and let's talk to the people who are probably a 288 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: little confused about what's happening as they look at the 289 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: big board and see all the pieces moving in. How 290 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: do you assess the current situation around Iran and our 291 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: readiness to provide the president with options foreign attack ranging 292 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: from basic strikes to perhaps regime change. 293 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, you know, and you're right it could look confusing. 294 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 6: What's happened over the last four weeks is that the 295 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 6: United States has set the conditions the Department of Defense 296 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 6: has so that they can conduct whatever operations the president desires. 297 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 6: They'll they've now prepared for him multiple plans and branch plans, 298 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 6: different opportunities, you know, so that he can choose the 299 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 6: degree to which he wants to impose his will on Oran. 300 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 6: And you know, if we'd gone four weeks ago, would 301 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 6: have been extremely limited, and you'd have been balancing what's 302 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 6: called risk to mission and risk to. 303 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 9: Force with our ground forces. 304 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 6: That are that are vulnerable in the Middle East to 305 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 6: a blistic missile counterattack. But what we've done now is 306 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 6: created the conditions where we have both the offensive and 307 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 6: defensive systems in place that the President has a. 308 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 9: Much wider range of options. So this is perfect. 309 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 6: And by the way, it doesn't hurt our assets to 310 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 6: get in theater do cycles, you know, the aircraft to 311 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 6: do cycles, the aircraft, carriers, the destroyers, they get. 312 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 9: To operate in that environment. 313 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 6: For the air defension, I'm not as worried because they're 314 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 6: basically returning to where they were, you know, two months before. 315 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 9: But for these other assets, this was actually very useful. 316 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 9: So look, we're in a much better position. 317 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 6: Today than we were at the peak of the protest 318 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 6: three or four weeks ago when the President first brought 319 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 6: up this issue. 320 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: Well, Admiral Montgomery, I know what my guys would be 321 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: doing if I was a Batowan commander over there. But 322 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: the Army's not taking the lead on this mission. The 323 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: lead is the United States Navy. What does it And 324 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: you've got unique experience there day to day. What does 325 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: your carrier battle group look like? What is it doing 326 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: every day? As it waits for the President to provide 327 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: orders to attack, to not attack, to do something else. 328 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 6: That's a great point. And you know, and it would 329 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 6: be fair here. This is going to be an air 330 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 6: an air an aviation issue for which the Navy could 331 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 6: be the predominant force. 332 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 9: It'll be close with the with the Air Force. 333 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 6: So the two of them working together, and you know, 334 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 6: and we're used to this after twenty plus years in 335 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 6: the Middle East working side by side. But it's going 336 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 6: to be Navy and Air Force. Now what's interesting here 337 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 6: is the Navy, though, is going to be the ones 338 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 6: for maintaining that proficiency, the day night proficiency for landing 339 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 6: and taken off from aircraft carriers. 340 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 9: That's just a constant. 341 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 6: There's this constant drumbeat of steady state activity in the 342 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 6: background to ensure that the maximum number of pilots are 343 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 6: proficient in day and nighttime operations, the maximum number of 344 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 6: planes are ready for up. You know, you have four 345 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 6: fighter attack squadrons. Usually they each have twelve planes. You know, 346 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 6: sometimes they have one or two that are of deep mantag, 347 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 6: so be yanking those out as fast as they can 348 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 6: so they can offer the you know, the the centcom 349 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 6: commander through his Air Operations Command the Air Force three star. Hey, 350 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 6: here are the number of assets we have available. Here's 351 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 6: the munitions we have on the carrier. That's anything they're doing. 352 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 6: Their consulships, the logistics ships are pulling up the amoships 353 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 6: providing them with the maximum you know, spread of weaponry. 354 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 6: And the same thing's happening at Aludd and other airfields 355 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 6: that we're spreading our Air Force assets. There's a significant 356 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 6: number of F fifteen, F thirty five, F sixteen's even 357 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 6: a tens spread. 358 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 9: Throughout that area. 359 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 6: And we both counter drone but also cost and positioned weapons. 360 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 9: So that's all happening. 361 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 6: One thing I would also mention is we always maintain 362 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 6: in the United States B two B one B fifty 363 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 6: two long ring strike capability that is always available globally 364 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 6: on you know, twelve to eighteen hours kind of notice 365 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 6: for thirty plus hour flights that can impose their will 366 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 6: as well, and that'll all be involved. 367 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: Well. Listeners, a Hugh Huge show. 368 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: I want to point something out to you what Admiral 369 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: Montgomery said, Why this guy is a professional, why you 370 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: should listen to what he's saying. Did you hear the 371 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: word logistics. Look, amateurs focus on the operations part. You 372 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 2: gotta be good at and you gotta be able to 373 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: do it. A professional is going to talk logistics. Sir, 374 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 2: you anticipated my next quite my question, which was going 375 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: to be about AMMO ships, about oilers, about battle damage capabilities. 376 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: Are we ready to support an extended fight more than 377 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: two or three days, where we're expending munitions, where we're 378 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: running out of oil, where those ships need to be 379 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: refueled and refit. 380 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 6: Yes, we are ready. I mean the good news. These 381 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 6: are both nuclear power aircraft carriers, but they still well 382 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 6: refuel you know, at a routine rate. You know, potentially 383 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 6: around once a week for aviation fuel for the for 384 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 6: the air wing. The destroyers have to refuel more frequently. 385 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 6: You're absolutely right, but that stuff's in play. It's normally 386 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 6: in the background in the Middle East. 387 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 9: But I promise you. 388 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 6: Excess capacity from the Pacific has probably flowed in with 389 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 6: the with the Lincoln Strike Group, and then the Ford 390 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 6: Strike Group can rely on stuff that's normally available in 391 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: the Mediterranean to support the destroyers. 392 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 9: I should mention we've also. 393 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 6: Put there's a good number of destroyers here, some with 394 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 6: each battle group, some spread out in the Arabian Sea 395 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 6: to keep an eye on IRGC actions around the straits, 396 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 6: or her moves Iranian Registry Guard corp on a station 397 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 6: moves some in the Red Sea keep an eye on 398 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: the Hooties, but they could still use their tomahawks around 399 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,239 Speaker 6: and then finally some off the coast of Israel. Not 400 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 6: part of the Ford Strike Group, but they're very explicitly 401 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 6: to do SM three, to do long you know, intermediate 402 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 6: range ballistic missile defense of Israel should they be counterstruck, 403 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 6: and of course they have tomahawks they can participate as well. 404 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 6: So everyone's both an offensive player and a handful of 405 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 6: these are also exquisitely defensive players to help respond to 406 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 6: an Iranian counterattack. 407 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: Sir, you're the commander of the one of the carrier battlegroups. 408 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: What questions are you asking of your commanders, your ship commanders, surface, subsurface, 409 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: and air wings. 410 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 6: So what you want to do is you want to 411 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 6: be pushing up immediately any kind of comms issue. You know, 412 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 6: there's always a little bit of perturbations and communications in 413 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 6: the You know you have redundant one, two, three satellite systems. 414 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 6: Are they all functional? You know, we have maximum communications, 415 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 6: because what you want is the ability for them to 416 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 6: tell you what they're seeing and for you to give 417 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 6: them guidance. Because we do command by negation, we expect 418 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 6: to tell our commanding. 419 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 9: Officers, here's what we want you to do. 420 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 6: You'll get an order, you execute, you tell me when 421 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 6: you're done, but you have to tell me if there's 422 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 6: a problem, and you have to tell me when you're done, 423 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 6: and so you need to know that that connectivity is there. 424 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 9: The other ones is are munitions. I think you're pretty good. 425 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 6: You know, once you load Tomahawk and you go out, 426 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 6: you know, Tomahawk stones suddenly have a problem on deployment saving. 427 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 9: There's standard missiles that you do your air defense with. 428 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 6: So you're asking about you know, communications, munitions, you know 429 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 6: that kind of stuff. And if I can break up 430 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 6: One other thing I should have mentioned right at the 431 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 6: very beginning, and that's the air force refueling. Because you 432 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 6: talked about logistics being the key here and you're absolutely 433 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 6: right to me, the most important thing is the is 434 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 6: the air force refueling aircraft. In fact, during the twelve 435 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 6: day Israel you know campaign against Iran that included the 436 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 6: United States. 437 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 9: On the last day and a half. Refueling really became 438 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 9: a center of gravity for them. 439 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 6: They have seven aging seven oh sevens that are all 440 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 6: sixty to seventy years old. The US has the great, 441 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 6: you know, the best, you know, the best and largest 442 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 6: refueling fleet in the world. It's not it's less than 443 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 6: we want, but I guarantee you it's been pushed forward. 444 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 6: It's operating out of Israel, it's operating out of the 445 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 6: Middle East, and and it will it will help both 446 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 6: the US Air Force, the Israeli Air Force, and the 447 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 6: US Navy. All three will tap off of those refuelers 448 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 6: because they're fantastic. 449 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 9: They have long on station times. 450 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 6: We have the best refueling pilots in the world, the 451 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 6: best planes, and we're able, and that's what allows you 452 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 6: to impose persistent cost on an adversary. 453 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: Well, General mart Montgomery, you just gave a very important 454 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: piece of information that Israeli forces can use American air 455 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 2: refueling assets. 456 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 5: I did not. 457 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: I was not aware of that. That's key, folks, Admiral 458 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: Mark Montgomery. Folks, listen to him. 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Ain't gonna work, not happening, not in 489 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: the cards. One of the fun things about guest hosting 490 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: for the Great Hugh Hewitt is I get to I 491 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: get to meet up with some old friends, and Bethany 492 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: Mandela is one of them. I've known her for gosh, 493 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: how many, like fifteen years since the early brightbun days. 494 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 11: Yes, And when they emailed me and told me that 495 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 11: you were guest hosting, I was like, absolutely not. I'm 496 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 11: not talking to that schlub. And there here I am. 497 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: Now you know you met me, people know we have 498 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: a history. Always great to talk to you, Bethany, I 499 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: got I've got a lot to cover with you, but 500 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to get your input. I know that you 501 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: are have been taking an interest in what's going on 502 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: in Maine and the primary between maple Syrup Spanberger and 503 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: maple syrup Stormtrooper, and I'm just I'm a little baffled 504 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: by this platin or guy. He etches a totin cough 505 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: an SS symbol into his packs and I'm not sure 506 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: which is worse that he knew it was a Nazi symbol, 507 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: or he didn't. 508 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 11: He knew. I know that for a fact. He bragged 509 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 11: about it to people. He used to call it my 510 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 11: tattan komph. And that was why when people came forward 511 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 11: to whomever, they came forward to media and they said, 512 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 11: I know that it's a totten comp because that's what 513 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 11: Graham told me. He knew. He knew it was a 514 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 11: totten comp for many, many years. And then he started 515 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 11: getting press questions, why do you have a Nazi tattoo? 516 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 11: And then all of a sudden he was. 517 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 4: Like, what I had no idea, let. 518 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 11: Me cover it up immediately. He is a really disgusting person. 519 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 11: And his fixation on the war in Gaza is not 520 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 11: unrelated to his Nazi tattoo for ten years. 521 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: Well, I would expect he's against the war in Gaza 522 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: after the first few hours, and probably highly in favor 523 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 2: of it. Look, look, I'm not saying I don't have 524 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: some objections Toyle Israel thought the war in Gaza. I 525 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: think Israel was far too kind and I think it 526 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: was far too gentle is And you know there are 527 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: Americans are nice people. They want to default to the 528 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: idea that people have a good heart and and want peace, 529 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: and that's you know, I've lived overseas, I've deployed, and 530 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: I know that that's simply not true. The thing you 531 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: do with your enemies is you crush them and obliterate 532 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: their capability for murdering you and your allies. 533 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 4: Am I am I off base. 534 00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 9: No you're not. 535 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 11: It's funny because I'm reading the Book of Joshua right now, 536 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 11: just for fun. Why not making my way through the 537 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 11: Book of Joshua and someone, not someone, Lots of people 538 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 11: come at me, like God wouldn't want the Jewish people 539 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 11: to do this, And I think to myself and I 540 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 11: say it usually have you read scripture? Have you read 541 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 11: what God told the Jewish people to do to the 542 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 11: people of I to the people of Jeric, like God 543 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 11: was very explicit, actually burn everything and kill everyone. So 544 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 11: this idea that Israel not bombing from the ground from 545 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 11: the sky and instead going from door to door to 546 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 11: make sure that they're not killing innocent civilians, I agree 547 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 11: with you. I think that Israel conducted this war perhaps 548 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 11: too ethically, if that's such a thing exists, because I 549 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 11: don't know what they expected after October seventh. But absolute, 550 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 11: complete devastation and destruction is what was necessary after that massacre. 551 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if look I was me colonel, 552 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: I was a commander, and I don't know how I 553 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: would look the mother of one of my troops in 554 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: the eye and say, well, you know, instead of flattening 555 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: that building I was taking machine gun fire from. I say, 556 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: your son in first, because the scumbag who was shooting 557 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: at us might have brought along his wife who was 558 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: loading mags for him, and I didn't want to hurt her. 559 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think he did. 560 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: I don't think it's morally wrong to take your own 561 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: side in a war. 562 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 11: No, No. And that's a frustration that I hear from 563 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 11: a lot of Israelis because I know people who have 564 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 11: died who were sent into a building to make sure 565 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 11: that it was empty before they detonated it, and it 566 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 11: was booby trapped and the person was killed. They chose 567 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 11: that method instead of just dropping an aerial bomb on 568 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 11: it and detonating it from the air. There's lots of 569 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 11: such stories, and there's lots of frustration on the side 570 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 11: of Israel, and it red pills Israelis honestly, because the world, 571 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 11: you know, accused them of conducting the war in such 572 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 11: an immoral way. Meanwhile, Israelis looked to their neighbors and 573 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 11: their friends, and their nieces and nephews, and they say 574 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 11: to themselves, Avikai died because that's not how we're conducting 575 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 11: this war. Forget you people, forget the UN, Forget all 576 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 11: of these international bodies. We know what we're doing, because 577 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 11: we're going to the funerals. 578 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: Well, I'm particularly disgusted by the Americans who side with 579 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: the people who killed not only over a thousand Israelis 580 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: and their dogs, but killed Americans. 581 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 4: They killed Americans, Bethany. 582 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: And they kill're not Americans, and they have got a pay. 583 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 11: They killed Americans on October seventh, and then they also 584 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 11: executed an American a year after holding him in captivity. 585 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 11: And what was really wild about what that. His name 586 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 11: was Hirsch Goldberg Poland he was born in California. He 587 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 11: was raised in Chicago and Richmond, Virginia, and his parents 588 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 11: went to the DNC on the stage at the Democratic 589 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 11: National Convention and begged for their son life. And one 590 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 11: week later their son was executed in a tunnel and 591 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 11: Gaza it showed so little respect for the fact that 592 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 11: I mean he was killed alongside five Israelis. There were six, 593 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 11: and there were six people who were killed after being 594 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 11: held captive and starved for a year underground. But that's 595 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 11: what that's what Hamas thinks of Americans. They were holding 596 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 11: three Americans hostage and execute and I'm sorry four. They 597 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 11: were holding four Americans hostage and executed one of them 598 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 11: in cold blood. 599 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 4: Well, this brings us to Iran. 600 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: And you know, I've been informed that you know, America 601 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: is making war on the people of Iran. No, the 602 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 2: Maulasa in Iran have murdered thousand, maimed thousands of Americans 603 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: in the last forty five years. I don't want to 604 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: hear about your stupid coup in nineteen fifty three. There 605 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: is no excuse that ever allows you to hurt Americans 606 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: and not die. And that's my position. I don't want 607 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: bethany on America that doesn't embrace retribution. I don't want 608 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 2: a conservatism that doesn't embrace get righteous retribution. That is 609 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: key to our whole ideology and our I mean. 610 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 11: These people are saying, these people are people who are 611 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 11: saying death to America, who have already killed Americans who 612 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 11: want to kill more Americans, and they're trying to develop 613 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 11: a nuke. I don't know what we're supposed to do 614 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 11: in this circumstance, but it seems like a pretty clear 615 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 11: solution to me. We have to stop them before they 616 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 11: kill us. 617 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's important, like I said, to take 618 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: your own side in the fight. And these radicals, uh, 619 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: these monsters have started a fight. 620 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 4: I say, we finish it. What do you say? 621 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I hope that that's what President Trump 622 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 11: intends to do. I don't know what all their solution 623 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 11: there is. 624 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: Well, look, he's got a lot of military forces in place, 625 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,959 Speaker 2: a lot of pieces moving on the checkboard. Maybe maybe 626 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: you have better information than I do. What is the 627 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 2: feeling of the Israeli people? Can we count on our 628 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: friends in Israel to help us finish the mullas we 629 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 2: have about fifteen seconds? 630 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 5: Oh yes, yes, no. 631 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 11: People are stocking up, the Israelis are planning their days 632 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 11: and hours for planning for a wark. 633 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 4: It's coming excellent. 634 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: As Michael Corleone said today, we take care of all 635 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 2: family business. 636 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 4: I'm Kirk Schlicker. Thank you, Bethany Mendel. This is the 637 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 4: Huqwit Show