1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: Build Different is a production of the American Association of 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Christian Counselors. To support this podcast and learn how you 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: can help us to promote all our biblical content, spread 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: the Gospel, and provide mental health resources and training to 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: people everywhere, just go to aaccfoundation dot org. Again, that's 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Aaccfoundation dot org. Welcome to Built Different. I'm Zach Clinton, 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: your host, and each week I come to you exclusively 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: on the Life Audio podcast network. 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Now let's roll. 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Before I introduced our very special guests, I wanted to 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: introduce somebody that's very special to me and to ignite 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: I introduced him a little bit last night. 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: He is the CEO of the. 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: American Association of Christian Counselors. In our affiliated Ministries at 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: Extraordinary Women and Ignitements Impact Weekend. 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: He happens to be my brother in law. Let me 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: say this, he. 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: Is probably the biggest die hard Ohio State Washington Commanders 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: fan I've ever met in my life. 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: Can you please help me? 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to stage, mister Ben Allison. 31 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 3: The Ohio State, the Ohio State. 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: He likes to say, we are going to be co 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: hosting this interview with a very special guest again. He 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: was mister football in the state of Indiana. He happens 35 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: to be a national champion at the Ohio State University, 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: all pro wide receiver, setting records, doing incredible things with 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders. He where's number seventeen? They call him 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: scary Terry. 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: Can he help me? Welcome to the United States. 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: Let's bring him out of the tunnel. Somebody get on 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: your feet, Let's get out. Let's bring him out. 42 00:01:59,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Help me? 43 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: Well say Terry, the come definite. 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: We take a much better man, fellas. 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna have some fun here with Terry for a moment, because. 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: We wanted to. 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: I heard that we are before we've been to the 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: serious stuff. 49 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: Terry. 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: We want to have some fun because we want to 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: know the details, you know behind all the different things, 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 2: and so we're gonna do a little speed round maybe. 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: First thought. First word that comes to mind. 54 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: Commanders have the seventh pick of the upcoming draft. Should 55 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: they draft offense or defense. 56 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: I think we're in a very unique situation. I think 57 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: we could go best player available. I think we've done 58 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: a really good job in free agency so far. When 59 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: you get the top ten pick, I mean, I think 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: another receiver, Jeremiah Love. There's some great Buckeye defensive players 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: as well, so you know, I think we'll probably go 62 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: best player available. 63 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: Awesome. 64 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 5: When it comes to the nfcast, we got all sorts 65 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 5: of teams in there. 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: Which one do you like to beat the most? Uh? 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 4: Eagles Eagles. 68 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: I gotta say the Eagles man their fans, they're very passionate. 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: They can be a little rough, but there's nothing like 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: going into Philly and getting to win because it's a 71 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: tough environment. 72 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 4: Dallas is very close second, though, come on, come on, I'm. 73 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: A Steeler fan, so I like it when you guys 74 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: beat the Calvil that the cow girl. 75 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: I should say. 76 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: Anyways, Terry, you are one of the sharpest route runners 77 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: in the league. You've made some dudes fall broken some ankles. 78 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: What's your favorite route to run? 79 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: I probably like to say a post corner, okay, and 80 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: so we call like a shaker out and it's a 81 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: double move. But a fast guy like myself, you have 82 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: to respect if I run that post and as soon 83 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: as I see your hips turn it as a dB, 84 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: I break it off. 85 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: To the outside and that balls on time. See you 86 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: che's kiss. That's awesome. 87 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 5: Hey, you have to play against a bunch of tough 88 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 5: corners in our league. Of all the corners, which one 89 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 5: you have to tighten your shoelaces a little bit more on? 90 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: I probably say Patrick Satan from Denver. He's one of 91 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: the best vb's in the league for a very long time. 92 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: Very physical, fast, very long arms. It's a battle. So 93 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: when we played Denver this year, him and I went 94 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: at it a little bit and it was a good time. 95 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about a wide receiver running a slant, running 96 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: into linebacker territory. 97 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: You know you gotta be thinking like, here come the 98 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: footsteps type of thing. 99 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 100 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: Is there a guy in the league that hits the 101 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: hardest in your opinion? 102 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: I don't say. 103 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: My hardest hit was probably Devin White linebacker. 104 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: I think he's maybe in Vegas right now. 105 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: When he was in Tampa, I caught like a screen 106 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: pass and he hit me. The hit wasn't bad is 107 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: the way he fell on me and I got up, 108 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: I thought my shoulder was out of place. 109 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my, you. 110 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: Know, but nowadays these linebackers are running four to four, 111 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: so I'm trying to make one guy miss. But if 112 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: I see two guys, I'm probably going down. 113 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 4: I live to see another play. 114 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 5: I know you're a competitive dog outside of yourself. Here's 115 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 5: the most competitive guy on the team. 116 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: I probably have to say Jaden Daniels. Jaden is an 117 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: unbelievable competitor. I don't care if we shooting hoops in 118 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: the locker room. He wants to win everything. 119 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: I'll say this, he's looking pretty sharp today in the 120 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: shoe he's looking for. And I gotta asked the question 121 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: in the locker room, besides yourself, Terry, who's the best 122 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: dressed man? 123 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 4: That's dress man? I probably have to say Larimi Tunzel. 124 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: We just recited LT, and I don't think lineman O 125 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: line d line get enough respect when it comes to 126 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: their clothing. But LT kind of dresses as we call 127 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: a small guy. So like the DB's, the receivers are 128 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: kind of more. You're like, you're gonna put on all 129 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: the swag and things like that. But lt could put 130 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: he could put it on. He could put some good 131 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: fits together. So I say him, Hey. 132 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 5: Coach dan Quinn's changed the culture in the locker room. 133 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: You could describe them in one word, what would it be? 134 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: Passionate. 135 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: Everything he does he does it with passion. The way 136 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: he coaches us on the field, the way he leads 137 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: our team meetings each and every morning, the way he 138 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: cares about the guys in the locker room, the relationship 139 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: that he's built. He's passionate about everything, and he's truly 140 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: a servant leader, which is great to have as your 141 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: head coach. 142 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: Terry favorite moment, favorite catch in your career this far. 143 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: I'd probably have to say so. I'm from Indianapolis, grew 144 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: up a Colts fan. We played them a few years back. Yeah, 145 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: I see a few is out there. I made a 146 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: catch back I think it's twenty twenty two, basically a 147 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: game winning catch against Stefan Gilmour, one of the best 148 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: corners to play the game. Two minute drive balls up 149 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: in the airs, me versus him, I come down with 150 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: it on the one yard line. I had one hundred 151 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: pe at that game, you know, So I had one 152 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: hundred people at that game, grew up in Indianapolis, and 153 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: to make that catch in that moment to help win 154 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: the game, I knew the Lord truly created that moment, 155 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: not just for my team, but for me to experience 156 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: that kind of joy in full circle moment. 157 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: This is a yes or yes question, all. 158 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 5: Right, the Commanders winning the Super Bowl this year. 159 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: See, I can't do that. 160 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm the type of person where I don't like to 161 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: make guarantees too early. What I will say is last 162 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: year didn't go as we hoped. Twenty twenty four was awesome. 163 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: We fell short, But there's something about when you get 164 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: knocked down and coming back with a different type of 165 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: hunger and a different type of confidence. And you can 166 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: tell the front office is doing with their job to 167 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: bring in. 168 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 4: The right pieces and players. 169 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: And as a leader, I'm training my butt off to 170 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: be ready when we come back in April to get 171 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: things going. So I like where we're at going into 172 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: the season, and if we can keep the injury bug 173 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: away and build this team, I think there's no. 174 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: Reason why we can't be compete in the end. 175 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: Mom Terry, I know that these have just been some 176 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: fun questions up the front. 177 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: But obviously our theme this year. 178 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: At Ignite is forced through the fire, rooted and anchored 179 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: and joke twenty three versus ten. But he knows the 180 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: way that I take, and when he has tested me, 181 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: I will come forth as gold. And so I want 182 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: to go back in time and talk about your formative 183 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: years here for a second. Because you don't just become 184 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: mister football in the State of Indiana. You just don't 185 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: become a star wide receiver at Ohio State and the 186 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. There have to been something that was just 187 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: formed within you that's kind of into your DNA. I'm 188 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: thinking about your parents, your family. Take us into the 189 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: backwater of your story if you would. 190 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 191 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: So, like I said, I grew up in Indianapolis, Indiana. 192 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: I have one sister, she's twenty eight years old. I'm thirty, 193 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: and my parents, Terry Senior and Grace McLaurin, they raised 194 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: us middle class family growing up in Indianapolis. Both my parents, 195 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, went to college and worked every single day. 196 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: And I think that's the number one thing I. 197 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: Took away from my growing up was seeing the work 198 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: ethic and the way that they got up every single 199 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: day whether they felt like it or not, the sacrifices 200 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: they made for my sister and I to have better 201 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: opportunities that they had. 202 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: They were both first. 203 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: Generation of college graduates, and so to set a platform 204 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: to when now their kids were both fortunate to be 205 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: college graduates. And the work ethic that it takes to 206 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: achieve anything in life that's truly grounded me. And so 207 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: when I approach things in life, I try to take 208 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: a day one mentality but also know that it's the 209 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: endurance that wins the race. It's the knowing you're going 210 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: to get knocked down. There's going to be some nose, 211 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: there's going to be some not yet, There's going to 212 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: be those moments where you may question. 213 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: Is this for me? 214 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: But the persistence in that work ethic is always going 215 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: to be the anchor that allows you to see the 216 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: other side until he gets that destination. And so that's 217 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: the number one thing I take away from my parents 218 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: is their work ethic and their passion for continuing to 219 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: better themselves and their family. 220 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 4: And that's something that I will forever live with you. 221 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, in this life, you're going to experience different trials. 222 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: You've told a story before about even though you're an 223 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 5: amazing athlete, being cut from. 224 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: Your I think a baseball team. 225 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 5: You share that story, how your parents got involved, how 226 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 5: you were resilient beyond that. 227 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my first I would say rejection in 228 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: life that I experienced. I was grew up playing football, baseball, basketball, 229 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: played all three sports. But when I got to high school, 230 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: first of all, I was like five four, one hundred 231 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: and twenty five pounds. 232 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: So for all you. 233 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: Guys are out there, maybe young men who were hearing me, 234 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: just continue to be patient, to eat your vegetables and. 235 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: You have a chance to continue to grow. 236 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I loved baseball and I tried out for 237 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: the freshman baseball team, and I was the fastest. 238 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 4: Guy on the team. I'm like, Okay, I may not 239 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 4: hit the best, but I can still a few bases, 240 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, you throw me out there. But 241 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 4: so we're on the last practice and I remember like 242 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: it was yesterday. 243 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: It was me and another one of my friends. We 244 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: get called into the coach office separately, but he says, hey, Terry, 245 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: the coach at the time, you know, we don't think 246 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: your bat speed and your mechanics are what we're looking 247 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: for at this level. I think that it would be 248 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: best if you maybe pivot and you're not going to 249 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: make the team. And my heart dropped in that moment 250 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: because that was the first time that I really be 251 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: told know in sports, the Lord blessed me immensely with 252 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: a lot of skills and talents, and so I was 253 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: fortunate to be one of the better players on each 254 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: team that I played on growing up, and so get 255 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: into a space where I was really excited to step 256 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: into this new journey of high school baseball and to 257 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: be told that you're cut from the team. Not only 258 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: the embarrassment that I felt. You know what I mean, 259 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: you're not making the team. Everybody knows you're trying out. 260 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: You're Terry McLaurin. How do you you know what I mean? 261 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: So I felt that a little identity hit at that time. 262 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: And I remember coming home and my mom's laying on 263 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: the bed and I go, well, she's excited to hear 264 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: the news. I'm like, well, I just got to come 265 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: from the baseball team, and I think I'm down to 266 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: my last strike, What do you mean by that? And 267 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I kind of gave up basketball because 268 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us see me five four 269 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: guards in the NBA. So I had kind of given 270 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: that up and lost the love for basketball. Football was 271 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: still my number one sport, but baseball was essentially kind 272 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: of being taken away from me. And I said, I'm 273 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: down to my last strike meeting football, and she said, well, 274 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: it's your best it's your best sport, it's your best opportunity, 275 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: and I'm going to be here for you and I'm 276 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: gonna help you get through this. And what that moment 277 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: taught me, it taught me a no doesn't mean a 278 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: know all the time, and sometimes are not yet A 279 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: know is often a time where the Lord is pivoting 280 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: you into a better direction. I truly feel like if 281 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: I didn't put all my focus into football at that moment, 282 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd. 283 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: Be sick year. 284 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: Because in that next year, I not only grew eight inches, 285 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: but I gained fifty pounds before my training and I 286 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: started to see myself come into my own as a 287 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: football player, and being cut allowed me to experience for 288 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: the first time. 289 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 4: Not quote unquote being good enough. 290 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: But it also taught me that my identity is not 291 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: wrapped in being told no. 292 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: That although I may not. 293 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Have fit that team that coach that situation, there's moments 294 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: that God had for me in my future that I 295 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: was going to get that, Yes, I was going to 296 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: be validated. So I don't regret that moment at all. 297 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: It's honestly one of the turning puyment turning points in 298 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: my life early on because it allowed me to experience 299 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: the world's version of rejection, but it recentered me into 300 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: a different passion that allowed me to take that chip 301 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: on my shoulder and direct it in a positive life. 302 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: I'm going to stop this right there and jump in 303 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: to say, you're listening to Built Different. 304 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm Zach Clinton. 305 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: We need to break for a brief message from our sponsors. 306 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: I'll be back with our guests to keep the conversation flowing. 307 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: Right after this, you're listening to Life Audio. Wow. You 308 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: talk about God's delay is not his denial. Sometimes it's 309 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: just his divine redirection, and God redirects you into the 310 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: sport of football, which you kind of centered on, and 311 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: clearly you're continuing to live out that passion in that 312 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: calling today, but you get called to go to the 313 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: Ohio State University, and man, you had some dudes around you. 314 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: Because if I'm not mistaken I read about it, I 315 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: think you waited two or three years before you really 316 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: broke into the mold. And sometimes, Terry, that's a long wait. 317 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: There's some dudes who would easily give up in the 318 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: midst of that or just kind of dip out rather 319 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: than dig in. How did you learn in the patient 320 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: and in the waiting seasons of life not to waste 321 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: that weight. 322 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 4: What you just said is true is the waiting season. 323 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: And I think I know I've experienced in my life 324 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: where it's been tough for me to wait because I 325 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: feel like I'm so deserving of this opportunity or this 326 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: chance to play at Ohio State at that moment, or 327 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: I put in so much time and work and effort 328 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: like my peers, and it seems like they're getting the Yes, 329 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: they're getting the benefits, and I'm not knowing that. I 330 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: feel like I'm deserving and worthy and putting mister. And 331 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: when you go to a program like Ohio State, everybody 332 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: was mister football. Everybody was the best in their their 333 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: their their region, their state, and so my time at 334 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: Ohio State really hone my my work ethic and hone 335 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: my confidence because it forced me to red shirt my 336 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: fresh year, which means you don't play, you don't travel. 337 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: So I was basically scout time receiver each and every week, 338 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: and when they would go away games, I clean my 339 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: dorm and hang. 340 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 4: Out and eat a little bit and uh. 341 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: But during that year of development, I really got to 342 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: focus on myself. I knew my ball skills weren't quite 343 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,479 Speaker 1: the best. 344 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: I knew I had to get stronger and faster. 345 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: So it allowed me to really take the time to 346 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: pour into what's going to help me be prepared for 347 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: when I'm ready to step into that role. And I 348 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: think that was another divine way of the Lord saying 349 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: not yet. I have something greater for you, but you're 350 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: not ready yet. And what I've learned through that those 351 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: times countless that we're going to continue to go over 352 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: was countless times are not yet. I know for a fact, 353 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: living here thirty thirty years now that every time I'm delayed, 354 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: I get excited because I know God has something better 355 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: than I may have played a thought for myself, and 356 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: He's just trying to make sure that I'm ready for that, 357 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: because sometimes if we get what we want earlier or 358 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: before we're ready for it, when we step into that 359 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: season of our life, will fumble it away. We may 360 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: screw it up, we may not maximizing the way the 361 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: Lord allow. And so I've learned through those times in 362 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: college and high school and my experience in NFL, those 363 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: not yet are times to continue to grow and continue 364 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: to lean into the Lord, and he's preparing you in 365 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: a way that you could be ready for those moments. 366 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: So I didn't start to really my fourth year, and 367 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: my best year was my fifth year, and I got 368 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: to a point where I was like, it's football even 369 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: for me, Like is my NFL dream even going to 370 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: come true? 371 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: I had doubts. I had a lot of doubts. 372 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: And you know, my dad always told me, I'll never 373 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: forget this. He told me, the Lord is building you differently. 374 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: He's building you in a way that's going to allow 375 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: you to be prepared for what you're dreaming and what 376 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: you're preparing for. 377 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: And when you're. 378 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: Going against you know, you got guys like Ezekiel, Elliott Curtis, 379 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: Samuel Michael Thomas. 380 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: I mean the list goes on and on and on. 381 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: There's only one ball. 382 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: That go around too, and so it allowed me to 383 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: also step into a servant role. I was Forcunate to 384 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: be a two time captain during my time there, and 385 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: it allowed me to serve in a different way and 386 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: see my leadership come to light and to notice that 387 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: the Lord had not only gave me the gifts and 388 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: the talents to be a tremendous football player, but he 389 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: gave me leadership and leadership and development skills as well 390 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: to help the guys on my team. 391 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 4: I love that. 392 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 5: Let's transition from the Ohio State to the Washington Redskins 393 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: at the time in football. 394 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: Team now Commanders. Draft Knight twenty nineteen. Yeah, what was 395 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: that like? 396 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 5: What were you anticipating? How are the nerves? Just just 397 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 5: give us a brief peak into your life there. 398 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: Draft Knight was wild, honestly, you know, I had seen 399 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: I had heard from my agent and other pundits that 400 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: I could possibly go from the first. 401 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: Round to the third round. I come out of Ohio State. 402 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: I only had thirty three catches my last year, I 403 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: led the country in yards per catch. 404 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 4: But I was very fortunate that. 405 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: Laura allowed me to have an opportunity to go to 406 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, which is the highest honor you can 407 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: have as a senior football player, to come to Mobile, 408 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: Alabama and compete against the other great seniors NFL prospects. 409 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: And I did really well at that camp. 410 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: I got invited to the Combine, ran a four three five, 411 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: did all the testing and things like that, did really well, 412 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: and so I worked my way up into really the 413 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: first three rounds. 414 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: I went from being undrafted. I went from. 415 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: Being someone who may not even make it to the NFL. 416 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: That's the reason why I came back my fifth year, 417 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: to be able to have another year of development, to 418 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: be prepared for my dream. 419 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: And so Draft night, you. 420 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: Know, I knew I wasn't probably going in the first round. 421 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 4: So first round, I believe is third. 422 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Friday, Thursday or Friday, and then rounds two and three 423 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: or the next day, day two. 424 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: So I watched the first. 425 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: Round with my parents and my girlfriend who's now my wife, 426 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: and just watching the names go by, watching the names 427 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: go by, and day two came around, so we had. 428 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: A nice celebration at my house. 429 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: My mom set up everything and I have my closest 430 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: friends and family come there and you don't have no 431 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: clue where you're going, Like, hey, you really don't, I 432 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: mean you can. I got interviewed by the Redskins at 433 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: the time one time during the whole process, so I'm like, okay, 434 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: they didn't bring me in for a visit. 435 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm gonna get drafted there. So 436 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 4: quick funny story. 437 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: One of my good friends, Uh, he's coming to the 438 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: uh to the celebration we're having, and he's running a 439 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: little late. So we're probably halfway through the third the 440 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: third round, and uh, I think Green Bay is on 441 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: on the clock, so everybody's watching the TV's all the 442 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: TV's on the clock. And I get a call if 443 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: for anybody doesn't you're supposed to keep your phone open, 444 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: like nobody's supposed to be calling. 445 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 4: You're supposed to keep it open for NFL teams. 446 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: So I get a call and it's my friend and 447 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like hey, bro, Like he's like, yeah, I'm 448 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: parked down the I'm parked down the street, Like, uh, 449 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: how do I get to your house? I'm like, bro, 450 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: I got to keep this line open. The Tens could 451 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: be calling me. So I go outside to take the call. Right, 452 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: So I come back in. Everybody's I mind you. Everybody's 453 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: at my doorway like are you a packer? 454 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: Are you a packer? 455 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, it was just Terarot made my friend. 456 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: And everybody's oh, you know, Like that's how intense it is. 457 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: Every single call, waking moment is just like you know, 458 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: but I get this. I get this call of two 459 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: O two area code, so it's DC and it's Jay 460 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: Gruden and he was like, hey, you know, we want 461 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: to draft you with our third round pick. We want 462 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: to pair you with Dwayne Haskins, and uh, you know, 463 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: we're ready for you to be a Redskin. And just tears, 464 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: like I get emotional right now, just tears knowing that 465 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: all those moments that I've waited for, prayed for, dreamed of, 466 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: oftentimes had doubts that would happen. At that moment when 467 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: you hear your name called, nothing else matters because you 468 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: know your foot is in the door. And that's all 469 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: I've ever asked for my entire life is an opportunity 470 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: to compete, an opportunity to. 471 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 4: Have my foot in the door. 472 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: Because again my work ethic, the Lord has blessed me 473 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: with a work ethic where I know I'm going to 474 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: outwork most of the people I compete against. I just 475 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: wanted the opportunity to be an NFL player and try 476 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: not to get too long winded. But they drafted me 477 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: to be a special teams player. I was the number 478 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: one special teams player coming out of the draft because 479 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: of my ability to chase down on punt team and 480 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: be a gunner one ball, go around, and really have 481 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: a lot of stats. But I get there and I'm 482 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: running on special teams. I'm running on special teams, and 483 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: a week before the first game of the season, there's 484 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: like cuts and few are our receivers get cut And 485 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: I go to the special teams board looking to where 486 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: my name is for practice. 487 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 4: I don't see my name. I'm like, oh, I'm cut. 488 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: Like nothing's guaranteed in the league, Like even as a 489 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: third round pick, you may get guaranteed one year, that's it, 490 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: but you can still get cut if you're not performing. 491 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: And I go to the coach, I'm like, yo, I'm 492 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: not on the special team. I'm starting on every specially, 493 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: why am I not there? And he said, I need 494 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: you to go talk to the head coach. So I 495 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: talked to Jay Gruden. He was like, Yeah, You're gonna 496 00:22:53,760 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: be the starting X receiver. Wow, I just came from 497 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State and I was probably the fourth receiver. You're 498 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: telling me I'm coming to an NFL team when you 499 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: guys drafted me to be a special teams guy only 500 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: and hopefully I could be a receiver, And you're telling 501 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: me I'm about to be the starting receiver for an NFL. 502 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 4: Team and we play the Eagles in two weeks. Got it? 503 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: You know, like it was unbelievable. 504 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: But in that moment, that validation that I got from 505 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: the Lord, it was everything for me because I knew 506 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: this was a moment he curated for me. All those 507 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: not yet, all those no's, all those times, in the 508 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: moments I was working in the indoor, why nobody was 509 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: looking catching hundreds of balls a day, running routes time 510 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: and time again and seeing no reward. In that moment, 511 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: I think it reminds me of Galassians six'. Nine you, 512 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: know do not get tired of doing good for indue. 513 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: Season he will reap a. HARVEST i read that verse 514 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: over my life, constantly because oftentimes you could get discouraged 515 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: because the work that we're putting. In we're not seeing 516 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: the fruits of that, yet but in that. 517 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 4: Verse is truly. 518 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: Depicted of what discipline and hard work, consistently no matter 519 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: what your surroundings look, like there will be an opportunity 520 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: for you to step in and be. Ready AND i 521 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: THINK i carry that tremendously now because every moment THAT 522 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: i walk INTO i Know i'm prepared for Because i've 523 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: been waiting and working for that. Moment SO i just 524 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: had to share that background of how. 525 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 4: The draft night. 526 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: Went So washington caused, me you, know. Tears everybody's, happy 527 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: and it was the best day of my life BECAUSE 528 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: i truly was able to say THAT i was drafted 529 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: to THE nfl and my dream was coming. 530 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: True you, KNOW i believe this about, You, terry that 531 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: it's our preparation in times of peace that's the greatest 532 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: predictor of our behavior in times of. 533 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: War it's WHAT i shared last. 534 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 2: Night preparation predicts, performance especially in the midst of our. 535 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: Pain And god's doing something special through you throughout your. 536 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: Career you're incredibly, Gifted you're incredibly. 537 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: Talented god is using football as a platform for you 538 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 2: to continue to be unashamed about the. Gospel but you're 539 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: also you haven't been a stranger to suffering in THE. Nfl, 540 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 2: YES i think about just the mental health advocate that you, 541 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: are just your openness to be, vulnerable to have other 542 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: men to ask for. HELP i think about the loss 543 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 2: of a brother In Dwayne. 544 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 3: Haskins you brought him. 545 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: UP i think about injury and coming back from, injuries 546 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 2: so many different. Hardships WHAT i would just love to 547 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: post a question for, You, terry is in our moments of, 548 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 2: POWERLESSNESS i believe That god draws us closer to and 549 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: reveals the character of his heart the. Most what Has 550 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: god revealed you in the midst of these challenging times 551 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: that you've even faced here? 552 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: Recently The lord has shown me that he will never 553 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: leave nor forsake. Me and he's the Same god that 554 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: was with me WHEN i got cut in high. School 555 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: he's the same guy that was with me WHEN i 556 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: broke records For. 557 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: Washington and he's the same guy who's with. 558 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: Me right now Where i'm walking into a new season 559 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: of my life as a, husband as an eighth YEAR NFL. 560 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: Vet So god doesn't change his constant love and mercy 561 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: is forever chasing me down and for a lot of my. 562 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Life i've been saved SINCE i was fourteen years, old 563 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: and for a lot of my, LIFE i knew That. 564 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: God died for my. 565 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: Sins jesus died from my, sins and he was raised 566 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: from the, dead AND i now have. 567 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 4: Salvation but my life didn't look like A. 568 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: Christian this consistency of WHAT i was doing and saying 569 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: did not look like. That and so What he's shown 570 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: me is he is going to continually be my biggest. 571 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: Advocate WHEN i mess, UP i run to him for. 572 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: REPENTANCE i run to his love because OFTENTIMES i tried to, 573 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: hide AND i knew. That at the, TIME i didn't know, 574 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: that but NOW i know that is the enemy trying 575 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: to separate me from The. Lord he's trying to keep 576 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: me in bondage through my. Shame he wants to bring 577 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: up those difficult moments WHERE i felt short OR i 578 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: SAID i wasn't going to do that thing THAT i 579 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: SAID i wasn't going to, do BUT i did it. 580 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: Again he tries to hold me convicted in those moments 581 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: SO i don't seek The father's. Face and so now 582 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: in these moments of, trial, now in these moments of. 583 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: Difficulty after this last, season tearing my clawd off the 584 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: bone and getting hundreds of ccs. 585 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 4: Drained out of my leg for a month, STRAIGHT i 586 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: learned real. 587 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: SURRENDER i learned that control comes in the form of. 588 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: Worry And i'm a BIG i have been still struggle 589 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: with worrying BECAUSE i. 590 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 4: Don't know how that next moment is going to work. 591 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: OUT i don't know is the. Earlier Is god with? 592 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 4: Me AM i going to make it? 593 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: Through and the answer is, yes, Yes he never. Changes 594 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: he Never you never have to earn his. LOVE i 595 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: think that's where counterintuitive to how we are as, athletes 596 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: because we are judged by our, performance our, validity our 597 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: worth sometimes come from our, contracts our. Stats but With, 598 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: god you don't have to earn. That it's freely given to. 599 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 4: You and so is. 600 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: Repenting, Yes, TERRY i know we're fighting the flocks, here, 601 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: Man but HOW i really want to wrap. 602 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: Up i'm just thinking Of Joe chapter forty, two verse. 603 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: Five it Said i'd only heard of you with my 604 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: ears up to this, point but NOW i have seen 605 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 2: you with my. 606 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: Eyes god has clearly. 607 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: Made himself evident in and throughout the different steps of your, 608 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: life And i'm just thinking about one final word to 609 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: the men in this. Room we're going to leave, here 610 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: and hopefully they're feeling, ignited but they're going to go 611 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: back home as husband's right year of? Marriage is that, 612 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: correct your? Wife god's doing an amazing thing for you 613 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: as a. Husband i'm thinking about the fathers in the. 614 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: Room i'm just thinking about men that are going back 615 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: home into the midst of the. Battle in the, FIGHT 616 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: i think three of the most dangerous words that they 617 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: could say or believe ARE i got. This we need, 618 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: brothers we need friends for the. Fire we need to 619 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: have a deepened relationship With. God what's a final word of, 620 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: hope encouragement and motivation for this group of. 621 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: Men community is extremely. 622 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: Important having someone that can help disciple, you having someone 623 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: that can help hear what you're going, through having someone 624 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: that can help you create a life for yourself that 625 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: is reflective Of. 626 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: Lord AND i have a. 627 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: Mentor of, Mine Pastor Brett, fuller who is a pastor 628 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: Of Grace Covenany church In, chantilly and he's been our 629 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: chaplain for the commanders for extremely long time and he 630 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: discipled me since my first day walking in. There and 631 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: what's so, ironic it didn't Catch god by. SURPRISE i 632 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: truly BELIEVE i came To washington sure to be a 633 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: really good football, player to make an impact of my. 634 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: Community but In washington's WHERE i found my true identity In, 635 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: christ through, discipleship through a church, home through someone who 636 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,239 Speaker 1: loved me and cared for me WHEN i didn't love 637 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: and care for, myself and a lot of the, times 638 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: AND i felt like my validation came from WHAT i 639 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 1: can prove and WHAT i can do in, football AND 640 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: i felt like me trying TO i was a people 641 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: pleas still can be as. 642 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: Sometimes i'm still working through. 643 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: That but knowing my validation doesn't come from, man it 644 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: comes from The, lord and seeing what my identity is 645 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: In him has truly freed me up to step into 646 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: a place of confidence in my life to Where. 647 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie to any of you guys in. 648 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: Here this would have terrified me two or three years, 649 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: ago like genuinely standing up, here sitting up here and 650 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: sharing my, testimony sharing What god has done in my, 651 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: life BECAUSE i felt so, UNWORTHY i felt so. 652 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 4: BROKEN i felt LIKE i didn't deserve. 653 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: To be able to speaking on these topics BECAUSE i 654 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: struggle with these same sinful. DESIRES i struggle with these same. 655 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: Convictions and what The lord, does he treats it so 656 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: much different to. Man sometimes people, can you, know break our. 657 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: Heart people that we trust and love turn their back on, 658 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: us and we're left picking up the. Pieces but when 659 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: you put your faith in hoping The, lord he puts 660 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: those pieces back. Together and not only, that he builds you, greater, 661 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: stronger and better for his will and to further or 662 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: his kingdom because you sought. Him and so What i've 663 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: truly learned over this past, year, honestly through, marriage through my, 664 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: injury through contract, negotiations is true. 665 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: Surrender and surrender. 666 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: Looks like knowing that the Same lord that brought you 667 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: through the last moment that you didn't think you want 668 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: to make it, through he's the same guy who's with 669 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: you in the moment that you find yourself up. Against, 670 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: now come, on and that community that you have is extremely. 671 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: Important and one thing my pastor and mentor says is 672 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: read Your bible every. Day and the reason WHY i 673 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: feel like that is so important AND i still fall, 674 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: short you, know but because of, culture because of the 675 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: world that we live in social, media there's so many 676 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: ravaging thoughts and processes throughout this life that we're up, 677 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: against challenges as, men as, husbands as, fathers as. Friends 678 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: we have to have something that actively combats those negative 679 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: thoughts of the, enemy those strongholds that are on our, 680 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: mind those traumas that we've been. Through The lord will 681 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: break those change if you submit your life and your 682 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: ways to. 683 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 4: His so come to him as if you're talking to your. Brother. 684 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: Lord i'm broken right, Now, Lord i'm hurting. 685 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: Like lord wants that kind of relationship with, us whereas, 686 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: man he won't treat us like. Man, man it was, 687 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: like you're too. BROKEN i Don't, Yeah i've done enough with. 688 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: You god brings you in every single. Time his love 689 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: is so deep and so wide that we can't measure. 690 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: It here stretches from the east to the, west and 691 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: when we're in a moment of true, surrender we see 692 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: his glory in a way that you've never seen. Before 693 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: but it also means that we need, community other men 694 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: and women in our lives that can help us get 695 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: to the moments that we never thought we could get. 696 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: To my friend told, me you show me your, friends 697 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 4: And i'll show you your. 698 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: Future and so my dad was a great example of 699 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: how to be a, husband but also my pastor is 700 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: a great exam be a husband and a father and 701 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: a man in his. Community and SO i try to 702 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: surround myself with men who are not only challenging me 703 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: and making me, better but help me emulate the image Of. 704 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: Christ and knowing that we're all still we're going to 705 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: fall short because we're, sinners but the love Of christ 706 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: can continue to cover any, sin in any wrongdoing that 707 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: we've ever, done And he welcomes, us welcomes us with 708 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: open arms each and every time we have to run to. 709 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: Him try not to hide in your shame and think 710 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: that you've fallen off so far That god can't pick you. 711 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: Up he can pick you up every single, time and 712 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: you could come to exactly as you. Are you don't 713 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: have to have it all figured, out you don't have 714 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: to have every perfect word and perfect saying and know 715 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: every Single bible. 716 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 4: Verse you have a love For, christ you know That 717 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 4: he died for. 718 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: You you know that you're going to, heaven and you 719 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: want a life that is better than a life that 720 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: you can ever, imagine And. 721 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 4: He is there for. You so that's WHAT i would 722 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: say continue to. 723 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: Be hopeful and, confident lean on other, believers and bring. 724 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 4: Someone along with. 725 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: You you don't have to know Every bible. Verse you don't 726 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: know have to have the perfect. Words your testimony is. 727 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: Enough what you've been through in. 728 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 4: Your life is. 729 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: Enough the story of What god has brought you through 730 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: through any trial and struggle is. Enough and SO i 731 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: encourage everybody here to share that because sitting here two 732 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: or three years, AGO i would have been riddled with 733 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: fear and, anxiety WHICH i know comes from the. 734 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: Enemy he wants to hold you in bondage of that. 735 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: Fear because he knows the calling that The lord has 736 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: each and every one of your lives in, here and 737 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: his objective is to keep you separated From, him to 738 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: keep you strapped in that. Bondage so continue to seek his, 739 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: face continue to know it's a, journey and truly pray 740 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: for that endurance because that's what we all truly, need 741 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: is that endurance to be able to go through the 742 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: struggles and this trial of this. 743 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 4: Life but no glory. 744 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: Is on the other, side where these bodies that are 745 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: just vessels will be long gone in the, ground and 746 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: our spirits are the ones that won't be living on praising. 747 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: Him so that's WHAT i would. 748 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: Say FANTASTIC coasea chapter Two joseiah two says this that 749 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: even in the valley of a, ford even in the 750 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: valley of, suffering when we return to The, lord a 751 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: door of hope will be opened wide unto. Us WHAT 752 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: i hear From Scary terry is return to The lord 753 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: and bring somebody with. You, TERRY i just got asked 754 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: you have an armed because we got some footballs that we. 755 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 3: Would like me to. 756 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: DO i might have to take this suit jacket off 757 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: on