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<v Speaker 1>iTunes and Hillsdale Born in Gloria and Emangrace America. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>to hewittt. Earlier today, the House of Representatives passed the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate approved Mini Buss, five appropriations bills and a two

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<v Speaker 1>week extension of the Department of Homeland Security funding. So

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<v Speaker 1>the government has reopened. I'm going to talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>and a few other things. Was Texas Senator John Cornyan

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<v Speaker 1>to start this hour. Senator, good to see you again,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope you're not as cold as DC looks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad the government's reopened. Can I begin, though, in

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<v Speaker 1>the lone Star state, sir, with what happened over the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend in the United States Senate district or A district

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<v Speaker 1>that went by seventeen points for Donald Trump got won

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<v Speaker 1>by a Democrat by fourteen points. What's that all about, Senator?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're all scratching our heads and trying to learn

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<v Speaker 2>the lessons that the public is trying to teach us.

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<v Speaker 2>But to start with, only about fifteen percent of registered

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<v Speaker 2>voters participated. Special elections are notorious for unpredicted, unpredictable results

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<v Speaker 2>because a small minority of voters have a disproportionate impact. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have another shot at this in November. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think what it also says is that candidate quality matters,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can't take things for granted, even in deep

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<v Speaker 2>red Texas and so as you know, that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about this coming November.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yesterday on the commentary podcast editor, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>member of that, but they were talking about you and

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Pakistan and the congressmen. They think it's nuts,

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<v Speaker 1>just like I think it's nuts that you've got a primary,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think you got a layup in November. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you might have to have you might have to use

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<v Speaker 1>your shoulder a little bit on that layup, but you

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<v Speaker 1>still got a lap. And none of us think that

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<v Speaker 1>the Attorney General can win. Is that sort of dawning

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<v Speaker 1>on people?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, the most recent polling shows that James Taller Rico,

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<v Speaker 2>who seems to be leading in the Democratic primary, would

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<v Speaker 2>be tied as of today with the Attorney General if

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<v Speaker 2>he were the nominee. Of course, that's before he's carpet

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<v Speaker 2>bombed the Attorney General, if he were the nominee, with

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<v Speaker 2>all the negative baggage that he's been carrying, the scandals

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<v Speaker 2>that he's been at the center of for a long

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<v Speaker 2>time now. So I think two things could happen. One

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<v Speaker 2>is he could lose, and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Second it would be, even if he could win.

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<v Speaker 2>By the skin of his teeth, it would cost hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of millions of dollars that we could use to spit

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up Senate seats in Georgia, in Michigan, in

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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire, and save our Senate seat in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>which will be a very expensive seat. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I would call the business case for my candidacy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot bigger than just me.

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<v Speaker 1>The business case for your dandency is you're one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent with President Trump, you're one hundred percent with the Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've been there a while and you've got seniority.

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<v Speaker 1>The business cases, it makes sense for Texas, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I've endorsed you and everybody else with sort of

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<v Speaker 1>common sense, as John Corny should win. But can we

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<v Speaker 1>run through the dates so that this audience at least

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<v Speaker 1>knows to turn out and vote on the right dates.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to be a primary, then there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a runoff. When are both of those?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you asked. So the primary is March the third.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the earliest primary in the country, and it's important.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, with a special election, it shows what

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<v Speaker 2>a small turnout can do in terms of unexpected results.

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<v Speaker 3>Early voting.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a very generous early voting period that starts

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<v Speaker 2>February of the seventeenth, so February the seventeenth.

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<v Speaker 3>With the primary on March the third.

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<v Speaker 2>If nobody gets the majority, which is likely to happen

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<v Speaker 2>with three candidates in the race, the runoff is in May,

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<v Speaker 2>ten weeks later, May the twenty sixth, and that's even

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<v Speaker 2>probably with a smaller turnout.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're encouraging everybody we.

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<v Speaker 2>Can to vote, and I hope all your listeners will.

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<v Speaker 3>Join us in voting on March third. If not before, well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all over to Texas and we want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure they turn out. I also will send you to

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Cornyan's campaign website. I don't think he can say

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<v Speaker 1>it unless he's out of the Senate. But it's John

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<v Speaker 1>Cornyan dot com. I can tell you where it is,

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<v Speaker 1>Johncornan dot com. Now, Senator, tell me a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about this Safe Act. That's the Safeguard America's Voter Eligibility Act,

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<v Speaker 1>And it became a subject to controversy on the House

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<v Speaker 1>FLOORI today, and I don't know why. Can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why it's controversial either, because for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time there's been a bipartisan consensus that voter ID

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<v Speaker 2>is a legitimate tool to use to protect the integrity

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<v Speaker 2>of the ballot, to make sure that only qualified voters

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<v Speaker 2>can vote. So the SAVE Act is a design to

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<v Speaker 2>basically put that into federal law. Now, there's some folks

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<v Speaker 2>who believe that the federal government doesn't have any roles,

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have any role in state run elections. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>the states should run elections, but I think at a

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<v Speaker 2>very basic minimum, it's not too much to ask that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody be an American citizen and have a voter ID.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the debate in the House was whether

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<v Speaker 2>they ought to attach it to this temporary appropriations package,

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<v Speaker 2>and Senator Thune, at my urging and others, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>we'll put that on the floor here in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Senate soon, and so we'll have a shot at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, all right, now I want to switch over to

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Homeland Security, which is on a two

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<v Speaker 1>week ticker. Then it runs out of money, except it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't run out of money. Sentator Cotton told us yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>that in the one Big Beautiful Bill last year, you

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<v Speaker 1>gave him a big dollar of money. So ICE is

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<v Speaker 1>not going anywhere. So once again the Democrats have walked

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<v Speaker 1>themselves into a corner. And I'm wondering, is there any

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<v Speaker 1>part of the caucus that wants to use this as

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<v Speaker 1>an occasion for some votes on things like the dreamers.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure the dreamers get in, but meanwhile keep administrative

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<v Speaker 1>warrants for deportation. What is the conversation around the DHS bill.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the last appropriations bill. Are we going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>it into a circus or are there going to be

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<v Speaker 1>serious legislating here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? This is really this is more performance are like

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<v Speaker 2>you pointed out in the Working Family Tax Cuts Act,

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<v Speaker 2>Work Big beautiful bill. We funded the Department full Land Security,

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<v Speaker 2>Border Security, the border wall, and so this is not

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<v Speaker 2>about whether ICE is going to be funded. It is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be about whether FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management

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<v Speaker 2>Agency TSA, the Transportation Security Agency, whether they will be

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<v Speaker 2>funded or whether we'll have to go to a continuing

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<v Speaker 2>resolution through the end of the year. We have come

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<v Speaker 2>a long way to actually pass almost all the appropriations

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<v Speaker 2>bill this year with this hiccup. But of course the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats couldn't refuse to take advantage of any opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>try to try to put on a show over ICE

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<v Speaker 2>and what's been happening in Minnesota and Minneapolis tragic outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's two lessons to learn. One is sanctuary cities

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<v Speaker 2>are bad. Sanctuary states are bad because this transfer could

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<v Speaker 2>incur out of public view in the county and local jails.

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<v Speaker 2>And secondly that it's a big mistake to interfere with

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<v Speaker 2>the federal law enforcement operation because bad things can happen

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<v Speaker 2>if including by accident CENTA.

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<v Speaker 1>I've written at length today for Fox News that a

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<v Speaker 1>deal o lot to be presented at Democrats in this

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<v Speaker 1>two week window, which is we'll get the Dreamers done well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll give regularization, not citizenship. They don't ever get the vote,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll give regularization to the dreamers if you give

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<v Speaker 1>us rules that shut down sanctuary cities and sanctuary states,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, funding cutoffs. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are asking, but I think you guys got to

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<v Speaker 1>really jam them on the fact that they've brought the

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<v Speaker 1>spotlight to bear on sanctuary cities, because that is not

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<v Speaker 1>a winning issue for them.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but they seem sort of well, can I say this?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I say they're kind of stuck on stupid. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not really interested in solving a problem, and that's the problem,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's the enhanced subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're happy to work through those issues. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump was elected on border security. The border is

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<v Speaker 2>now secure, but we've got to get people who came

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<v Speaker 2>in during the four years of open border policies by

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden administration out of the country, especially the criminals

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<v Speaker 2>and people have exhausted their appellate review of their legal

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<v Speaker 2>avenues or relief. But I don't know really whether the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats actually want to solve that problem, particularly for the

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<v Speaker 2>Dreamers that they talk about out for you know, all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and then when an opportunity is presented to

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<v Speaker 2>them to do something about it, as it has been,

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<v Speaker 2>including during President Trump's first term, they blow it by

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<v Speaker 2>asking for the sun and the moon and turning down

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<v Speaker 2>a perfectly good negotiated product. So I'm not optimistic, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we got to keep trying.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I want to I hope you guys do offer

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<v Speaker 1>them the Dreamers in exchange for some crackdown on sanctuary cities.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to close by asking you about the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I don't think you can give. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of administrative warrants issued for deportation, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been in the law of the land forever you were

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<v Speaker 1>a judge, you were a justice. You know that they're

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<v Speaker 1>only seven hundred District court judges will never deport even

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand people. If we've got to get district

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<v Speaker 1>court judges to sign these warrants. Is that? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>an insane ask on They can't be serious, are they?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I think again, they're trying to put on a show

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<v Speaker 2>for their base, which basically is the same people who

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<v Speaker 2>brought you defund the police and abolish ice, and they

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<v Speaker 2>want to put any obstacle in the path of legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement of our immigration laws that they can, including

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<v Speaker 2>making them, you know, take them up their masks so

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<v Speaker 2>they can be docksed and harassed by these people that

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen on the news.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is an unnecessary step.

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<v Speaker 2>As you knows as a lawyer, these are administrative proceedings

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<v Speaker 2>to actually get an arrest warrant. It's not a criminal

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<v Speaker 2>proceeding per se. It's people who've exhausted all of their

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<v Speaker 2>legal remedies and simply refused to leave the country.

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<v Speaker 1>By Mark sand firm on that, and thank you, Senator Cornyan.

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<v Speaker 1>Johncornyn dot com remember those days. March third and in

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<v Speaker 1>May tenth, Johncornyn dot com, I'll be right back in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay two. Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewett. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy to welcome John Ashbrook, one of the fellas of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ruthless podcast. They've been on the road. They were

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia last week. I want to thank John for

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<v Speaker 1>being kind to one of my friends, Jim, who I

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<v Speaker 1>hope got to attend the event. And then I listened

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<v Speaker 1>this morning to them talking about the theater kids and

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats. But John Ashbrook First of all, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be ninety degrees in California tomorrow. Are you sure

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to bring the Ruthless Podcast out west

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<v Speaker 1>for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on my way there as soon as we get

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<v Speaker 4>off the air right now, Hugh, I've had it with

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<v Speaker 4>the cold. You know, I grew up in the cold

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<v Speaker 4>in your home state of Ohio, and I just need warmth.

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<v Speaker 5>I need to go to Florida. I need to go

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<v Speaker 5>to California.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to go somewhere that is not going to

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<v Speaker 4>be what it is right here in Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>A few weeks every winter out of DC. Is what

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<v Speaker 1>does the body and mind of a journalist? Good John,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you. I just had Senator Corner on,

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<v Speaker 1>great guy, and I asked him about the ninth Senatorial

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<v Speaker 1>district in Texas, which went from being a Trump plus

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen district in November of twenty twenty four to a

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat winning it by seventeen over the weekend. Now, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a special election, but it's the state senate district.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bigger than the congressional seat. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that message is being sent?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, obviously he knows the state of Texas. Much much

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<v Speaker 4>better than I do. But I'll tell you, Hugh, every

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<v Speaker 4>single one of these special elections and the governor's elections

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<v Speaker 4>in New Jersey in Virginia in twenty twenty five should

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<v Speaker 4>serve as a wake up call to Republicans that these

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<v Speaker 4>midterms are for real, that every candidate has to run

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<v Speaker 4>their ass off if they want to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>get across the finish line next November, and if they

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<v Speaker 4>don't have a good campaign. It's based on the fundamentals

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<v Speaker 4>that it takes to win. It's not like who can

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<v Speaker 4>tweet the best, although that's part of it. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>who raises the most money, although that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's who has an organization that is built to win

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<v Speaker 4>in a difficult environment.

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<v Speaker 5>And there is no way around the.

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<v Speaker 4>Fact that Republicans are in a difficult environment this fall.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's historically difficult for any party in power,

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<v Speaker 4>and Republicans do not have Trump on the ballot in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty six. Now the President is working over time

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure that he is helping these candidates. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Maga Inc. His principal outside pack, I think raised three

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<v Speaker 4>hundred million dollars or something like that. I may be

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<v Speaker 4>even like short changing that number, and he is going

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<v Speaker 4>to take this primary or I'm sorry, this midterm election

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<v Speaker 4>very seriously.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's not enough.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, every single one of these candidates needs to

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<v Speaker 4>find it within themselves to take what the president is

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<v Speaker 4>offering and complement that in a way that only they

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<v Speaker 4>can on a local level. If they don't do it,

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<v Speaker 4>if they're not run hard, that's a recipe for disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of two things is true. Either everything depends

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<v Speaker 1>upon the economy or it doesn't. And if everything depends

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<v Speaker 1>upon the economy, were in good shape because four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half percent and then almost five percent growth, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have another great quarter. It's not the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost caught up with Biden inflation. But if that's

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<v Speaker 1>not true, then immigration enforcement is driving that result. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think voters are turned off by immigration enforcement.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's some of that in suburban parts of

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<v Speaker 4>the country. But you have to remember the mandate that

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump was given. It's seventy seven million votes in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four. People want safety, They wanted our borders

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<v Speaker 4>to be closed, and they want the criminals to be

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<v Speaker 4>deported from this country. I interviewed Tom Homan. I know

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<v Speaker 4>you've talked to him before, to Hugh, and I asked

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<v Speaker 4>him a very specific question about sanctuary cities because it's

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<v Speaker 4>on my mind as a guy who lived through nine

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<v Speaker 4>to eleven. Are these sanctuary cities becoming rendezvous points for

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<v Speaker 4>terrorists who found their way from the other hemisphere across

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<v Speaker 4>the Mexican border and into our country during the Biden years?

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<v Speaker 4>Are these sanctuary cities turning into rendezvous points for people

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<v Speaker 4>who are fighting age men who really want to do

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<v Speaker 4>damage to our country? And he said the answer to

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<v Speaker 4>that was yes, And it's a terrifying thought, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>something that has to be solved. It's not a particularly

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<v Speaker 4>part is an issue. I mean, it's seventy thirty, eighty twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>You have so many people in this country who want

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<v Speaker 4>to get the border under control. President Trump did that.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to get the terrorists, the murderers, people who

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<v Speaker 4>are here to do wrong. They want them out. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I think Tom Homan is trying to do.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what our president is trying to do. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's a particularly I think that's a

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<v Speaker 4>good issue for Republicans heading into the midterm. The economy.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if you listen to Scott bessont, very smart guy,

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<v Speaker 4>well respected in DC, well respected in New York, from

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<v Speaker 4>people of all political stripes. Scott Besson is very bullish

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<v Speaker 4>on the economy in twenty twenty six because this is

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<v Speaker 4>the year that some of those tax cuts and things

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<v Speaker 4>that were in the Big Beautiful Bill come into play.

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<v Speaker 4>And so, I mean, he knows more about the economy

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<v Speaker 4>than I do. I'm going to rely on his judgment,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do think that those two issues, economy and

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<v Speaker 4>safety are going to be the highly determinative of this midterm.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, John, I think the softest part of President Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>coalition suburban women who have incomes they don't want to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like grandma's being deported. They don't like children

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<v Speaker 1>being deported. They don't like mothers being deported, dropping off kids.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like it. They react viscerally against it because

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<v Speaker 1>they're mom.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question is, is there an opportunities Democrats have

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<v Speaker 1>put themselves in the corner. They've held up funding for DHS.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we give them the Dreamers Act in exchange for

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<v Speaker 1>cracking down on sanctuary cities, cutting off funding for any

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<v Speaker 1>sanctuary city or state. Do you think we can make

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<v Speaker 1>them an offer they can't refuse and at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time somehow mollify that very uneasy part of the Trump coalition.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm skeptical Hugh, that Democrats are in a deal

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<v Speaker 4>making mood on the subject of immigration. You know, they

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<v Speaker 4>have shifted so far in their party from where they

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<v Speaker 4>were twenty years ago when they were saying that they

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<v Speaker 4>wanted our borders to be controlled, that they wanted criminal

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<v Speaker 4>illegal aliens to be deported. You remember that Obama himself

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<v Speaker 4>deported three million people during his time in office. But

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats have completely shifted on this issue, and there are

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<v Speaker 4>so many reasons why. I'm not sure, given their sources

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<v Speaker 4>of funding, given how tight they are with the hard left,

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<v Speaker 4>and their own civil war going on within their own part,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure they're in a deal making kind of mood.

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<v Speaker 1>What should we make I turned down the dreamers, John,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody talks about the dreamers. I've been here literally on

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<v Speaker 1>the road about it for twenty years. Can we not

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<v Speaker 1>offer that to them with something stabled to it and

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<v Speaker 1>make them turn it down or accept that plus dreamers

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<v Speaker 1>plus X and we get the name X.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, here's the thing. I think that even if

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<v Speaker 4>Trump were to offer something like that today, I think

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats would say, yeah, thank you, that's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>get the votes. Here's I want more, and here's my more.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I want the names and addresses of every

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<v Speaker 4>ICE agent written on their chest so that we can

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<v Speaker 4>dox them and find them and intimidate them out of

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<v Speaker 4>doing their jobs.

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't think that we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Capable Republicans being we capable of satisfying the left on

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<v Speaker 4>this subject.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're in transigent.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>You look at how they're operating in some of these cities.

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<v Speaker 4>Minneapolis is probably the most noteworthy example where they're dding

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<v Speaker 4>up these checkpoints.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard about that today, unbelievable checkpoints in Minia. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Lilacs about that later today. John Ashbrook, get back,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, and I'm Joe Hewett. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to politics with David Drucker, but first get a pulse

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<v Speaker 1>on from the Beltway on what you think is happening

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<v Speaker 1>in Iran today. Already a shaw He drone was shot

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<v Speaker 1>down by an F thirty five flying from the Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 1>A second drone has been dispatched by Iran towards the Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 1>No word yet on what happened there. And six Arenian

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<v Speaker 1>gunboats attempted to seize a US flagged oil tanker that

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<v Speaker 1>managed to get under speed and under the protection of

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<v Speaker 1>the US Navy ship before boarding. That's not That's not

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<v Speaker 1>the activity, David, of a country that wants to deal seriously.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, one if they ever wanted to deal seriously.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's the Irian regime. And every president, one

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<v Speaker 6>way or the other has found out that the that

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<v Speaker 6>they negotiated bad faith and they're malevolent, and that's the

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<v Speaker 6>way they want to be. Like I think, I think

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<v Speaker 6>everybody in Washington generally is consumed by domestic drama. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>whether or not the House and Senate we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>get the US get the government out of a shutdown

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<v Speaker 6>with a deal that the President brokeer with Minority Leader

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<v Speaker 6>Chuck Schumer in the Senate. Looks like we're headed in

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<v Speaker 6>that direction, but I think there's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 6>more discussion about this.

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<v Speaker 5>I was talking to somebody who.

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<v Speaker 6>Spent a lot of time a lot of his career

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<v Speaker 6>in the intelligence community earlier this morning. It's something that

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<v Speaker 6>came up in conversation. Usually Trump is very concerned about

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<v Speaker 6>the credit ability of the military threats that he makes.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of his negotiating in other ways can be

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<v Speaker 6>blustering for effect, but he's usually been careful about when

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<v Speaker 6>he threatens military action. And so I think a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of people are waiting to see, with the hardware that

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<v Speaker 6>we sent to the region whether or not anything is forthcoming.

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<v Speaker 1>David, what is the expectation of the people that you've

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<v Speaker 1>talked to. I believe he's going to rock their world.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a timetable, but because of what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, he does follow through. I do believe he

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<v Speaker 1>also like to have a legitimate diplomatic option on the table,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're walking away from it. Even before Jared Kushner

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<v Speaker 1>and Steve Whitcock, get the Turkey. This is not the

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<v Speaker 1>action of anybody of a regime that wants to deal.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we should, I mean, I realize we have to

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<v Speaker 5>do this. So it looks like we tried.

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<v Speaker 6>But we shouldn't even waste our time. Not with the Iranians,

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<v Speaker 6>but lots of people. It's worth wasting your time because

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<v Speaker 6>you never know with them. It's I mean, it's so predictable.

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<v Speaker 6>It can make me look like a genius, and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>no genius. Look, Hugh, I think the confusing part is

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<v Speaker 6>the president president threatened severe military action if they killed

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<v Speaker 6>their own people. He then said, well, I have assurances

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<v Speaker 6>nobody's getting killed. We then found out people were getting

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<v Speaker 6>killed and in massive numbers, and then nothing appeared to

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<v Speaker 6>be happening. Then we send people to the region, we

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<v Speaker 6>sent hardware and you know, military assets to the region,

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<v Speaker 6>and now we're in a in a holding pattern. And

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<v Speaker 6>usually when the president does something big, it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 6>stretch it out this way, or he doesn't foreshadow and

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<v Speaker 6>it's just you think he does. In retrospect, it looks

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<v Speaker 6>like he was foreshadowing it, but it's more like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>he took out Sulimani. Oh, he snatched Maduro, So this

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<v Speaker 6>is just different than the way he usually handles things.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think we're going to look back. I'm giving

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<v Speaker 1>him till the middle of March because it does take

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<v Speaker 1>a while to set up the bad system in Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Israel's well defended, but Saudi Arabia is not.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the Iranian short term missile numbers. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>real threat that they need air defense for. So I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that, But I was just wondering, is the general

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<v Speaker 1>expectation among the people you talk to that we have

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<v Speaker 1>a battle coming with Iran?

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<v Speaker 5>I'd say it's mixed.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I talk to some people who think Trump blinked,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, particularly when he talks about trying to

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<v Speaker 6>cut a deal for a nuclear program that was supposedly obliterated,

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<v Speaker 6>And then you talk to other people who are like, no,

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<v Speaker 6>the guy always follows through when he makes threats like these,

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<v Speaker 6>right when he delivers the red line threat. In fact,

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<v Speaker 6>usually he doesn't really deliver the red line threat.

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<v Speaker 5>He just acts.

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<v Speaker 6>So what I'm hearing are mixed perceptions about what the

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<v Speaker 6>president is doing and will do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he will end up hurt politically and the

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<v Speaker 1>world will be much worse off if he doesn't act.

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<v Speaker 1>But we will see. Now, the state Senate district number

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<v Speaker 1>nine in Texas went for Donald Trump by seventeen points.

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<v Speaker 1>It went for the Democrat on Saturday by fourteen team point,

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<v Speaker 1>same district a year and a half apart.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's it tell yet, well, it tells me that Republicans

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<v Speaker 6>have a real rough midterm election on their hands, at

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<v Speaker 6>least as it stands now these You know, what I've

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<v Speaker 6>learned about special elections over twenty plus years of covering

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<v Speaker 6>them is it's not the outcome that matters, it's the trend.

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<v Speaker 6>And this isn't an outlier in terms of all of

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<v Speaker 6>the special elections we have had since Trump's second inaugural.

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<v Speaker 6>This fits with a pattern of heavy Democratic overperformance. This

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<v Speaker 6>also happens to be a suburban district. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I know Terren County and Fort Worth a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit. I have family there. It was a surprise,

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<v Speaker 6>But I think you know two things to read from it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that it shows you that people can get

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<v Speaker 6>quite uncomfortable with this president when the provocative rhetoric and

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 6>the zillion things that he gets focused on overshadow the

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 6>things that they want him to focus on. That maybe

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 6>he is, but it's a possible to see because of

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<v Speaker 6>the way he functions. Number Two, the Democrats nominated somebody

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<v Speaker 6>who was like a viable, normal Texas politician. Right, he's

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<v Speaker 6>a union guy, he's an Air Force vet. He talked

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<v Speaker 6>about the issues they care about. He didn't talk about

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<v Speaker 6>social issues and definitely not in a way that's going

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<v Speaker 6>to turn off suburban conservatives. And so it shows you,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, as Democrats, when you nominate somebody who voters

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<v Speaker 6>are going to like, you can do better. And you know, Republicans,

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 6>it shows you that partisan partisan drawing seats and the

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<v Speaker 6>way people always vote, it's never good enough in a

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<v Speaker 6>midterm elections, particularly when you control the House, the Senate,

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<v Speaker 6>and the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me then, what Abigail Spanberger is doing, because

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed to me she ran as one of those

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<v Speaker 1>moderate Democrats that are left. But everything I've seen, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>been on the West Coast for a few weeks. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back next week. She's lurched way to the left,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that Breeze moves or walks is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be tacked and Virginia.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, first, you know a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>these proposals are coming out of the Democrats and the

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<v Speaker 6>Virginia Legislature.

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<v Speaker 5>Who you know, go figure, you know, you win a.

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<v Speaker 6>Big election and people think that they voted for everything

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<v Speaker 6>you ever talked about.

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<v Speaker 5>So let's see what she accepts and what she rejects.

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<v Speaker 6>Number two, she's not on the ballot, right, And how

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<v Speaker 6>many times have we seen this? You run one way

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<v Speaker 6>and then you say, you know, then you say to

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<v Speaker 6>yourself and I give all the politicians been over the doubt.

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<v Speaker 6>I want what's best for people. This will be best

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<v Speaker 6>for people. This is what I'm gonna do. But what

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<v Speaker 6>I would say is, as a regard to Spanburger, let's

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<v Speaker 6>see what she accepts and see what she rejects. But

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<v Speaker 6>Virginia Democrats in the legislature are making the mistake of

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<v Speaker 6>veering away from what won them that election.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt, I agree with you, and I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>our resident correspondent in the Twin Cities, James Lilyx dot

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<v Speaker 1>substack dot com humorist extraordinaire James. I was thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>you this morning listening to the Ruthless podcast as they

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<v Speaker 1>replayed the audio and video of a checkpoint that has

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<v Speaker 1>been set up in the Twin Cities by anti Ice protesters.

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<v Speaker 1>They're using palettes, shipping pallets to block traffic to check

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<v Speaker 1>people's IDs to see if they're not Ice agent. Has

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<v Speaker 1>that happened to you yet?

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<v Speaker 5>That hasn't happened to be yet?

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 7>I was considering the other day putting on some big

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<v Speaker 7>Blaze or Oakley sunglasses of the type that are apparently favored

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<v Speaker 7>by ICE agents and just sort of trying to drive

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<v Speaker 7>by one of those checkpoints and see if they stopped me,

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<v Speaker 7>And then you know, I have you know, no great

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<v Speaker 7>fear of a single whistle, but the idea surrounding my car,

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 7>these people blowing on their whistles like like holler monkeys

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 7>that had aspirated a bag full of birthday party favors.

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<v Speaker 7>It doesn't appeal to be so I haven't done that yet.

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<v Speaker 7>What I love about it, though, is the idea of

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:38.719
<v Speaker 7>building a border, interrogating people who have crossed that border,

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 7>and then asking them for their papers and to prove

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 7>their legitimacy, and having been at that spot. The irony

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 7>of this flies so far over the heads of these

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 7>people that I am surprised it doesn't require FAA approval.

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<v Speaker 7>They're in actually an area where the airport is, and

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<v Speaker 7>I can just see a pilot's sighting as he's making

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<v Speaker 7>a landing that we have the irony that's flying over

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<v Speaker 7>the heads of these protesters right outside our window.

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<v Speaker 1>Here change these people? Who are these people? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>from the Twin Cities?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I mean yet are there are there tourists of

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<v Speaker 7>absolutely so?

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<v Speaker 5>Are those people who.

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<v Speaker 7>Say, hey, babe, it's going down in Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 5>It's time for the revolution, let's go.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, But for the most part, no, they are well

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<v Speaker 7>meaning Minnesotans who have for whatever reason, ideological pre election

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<v Speaker 7>because they've been on Facebook and soaking up the rage

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 7>and the rest of it and they want to be

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 7>part of it, or they just have an overwhelming desire

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 7>to shout the F word as many times as possible.

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<v Speaker 7>I have done so, and do so for genuine reasons.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, they're not out there. Not everybody out there

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<v Speaker 7>is saying I'm opposed to ice. Oh, and I also

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 7>want the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not true.

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<v Speaker 7>You've just got an awful lot of Minnesotans of a

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<v Speaker 7>liberal stripe, progressive stripe, and that's got a lot more

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<v Speaker 7>left in the last few years as I've been here.

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<v Speaker 5>Who are They're doing it because they believe in.

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<v Speaker 1>It now, James, the question is, though you say irony

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 1>flies above their head, Nevertheless, they are antifa, anti fascist.

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<v Speaker 1>They're erecting borders and checkpoints. It's the thing that Stasse

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<v Speaker 1>used to do to stop people from leaving East Berlin

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<v Speaker 1>to go to West Berlin. Do they not get that

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>irony or do they not remember West Berlin.

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<v Speaker 7>No, absolutely not no. And of course we all know

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 7>the fall of the wall was in a sense of

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 7>tragedy because East Germany was so very good on women's

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<v Speaker 7>rights and employment and the rest of it. So it's

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 7>kind of a mixbake there you No, not at all. No,

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 7>the irony of it, It doesn't they're not all Antifa.

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 7>Some of them are Antifa adjacent, or there people who

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 7>are down for the cause or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But the idea that the city should allow there.

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<v Speaker 7>To be a parallel government and police force that's moving

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<v Speaker 7>around and determining who shall and shall not pass is

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 7>one of those things that has to be extirpated immediately.

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<v Speaker 7>Otherwise you get parallel police in parallel law enforcement in

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<v Speaker 7>your very city, and that that can't stand.

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<v Speaker 5>So one of these was dissembled.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw and read it that there was somebody approvingly

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 7>saying that the police seemed to be sympathetic to the

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<v Speaker 7>cause man, because they were apologetic and they were really

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 7>nice about it, and they took everything down to the

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 7>other but they didn't arrest anybody. So it's like they

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 7>felt bad about what they had to do. No, I

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 7>don't think they felt bad about what they had to do.

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 7>I think they were rolling their eyes of the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that they had to go and drag some out.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the middle of the street.

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<v Speaker 1>This is news to me. So escape from Minneapolis as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the police have come and taken the pseudo checkpoints down.

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<v Speaker 7>One of them that I saw, the one that's on Senar.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not so sure about there.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's not as if every single act but

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<v Speaker 7>a point of egress in the city has been choked

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 7>off by chanting mobs. That's not the case.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's I think it's about two or three.

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<v Speaker 7>It's irritating to the people who have to slow down

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<v Speaker 7>and present in the own show that they're not the

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<v Speaker 7>bad guy. What time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you do people really slow down and show ID

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<v Speaker 1>to non.

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<v Speaker 7>Uniform No not everybody, No, not everybody. They will wave

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 7>you through you look jet oh look at you. You're

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 7>driving a Volvough You've got to co exist. Come bumper

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 7>stick from the back. You have a nope, you know

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 7>you're you're probably one of us. You got gray hair,

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 7>or you got purple hair, or you know, you got

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 7>a little kid and the well wait a minute, they

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 7>got a little kid. Where do they get that little kid.

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<v Speaker 7>They could have snatched them out of school like the

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<v Speaker 7>rest of the fifteen thousand and five year olds that

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 7>are apparently throng and Bishop Whipple Center.

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<v Speaker 5>No, they waved them through.

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<v Speaker 7>It's the big trucks, the big trucks that apparently are

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 7>occupied by burley men who maybe just I don't know,

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 7>go to work because they're burly guys who hammer nails

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 7>and fixed plumbing for a living.

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<v Speaker 1>And are the people that learned the other trucks at

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<v Speaker 1>home depot with the drywall.

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<v Speaker 5>Which I was at home.

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<v Speaker 1>You are, yes, so you were at home depot or

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<v Speaker 1>you stopped on your way there.

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<v Speaker 5>The last night.

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<v Speaker 7>And the funny thing about it is is that I'm

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 7>living my life in such a normal fashion that I'm

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 7>not in a defensive crouch for fascism to come and

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 7>swoop down and carry me off in every second. And

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 7>I suppose that's privilege. But there was no tension, there

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 7>was no worry at home Depot. It's just home depot

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 7>in the suburbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what That's why you are invaluable to the

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>rest of the country. The rest of the country thinks

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the Twin Cities crazy. We believe that Timry and the

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>demonstrators are all nuts and that you are surrounded by nuts.

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>But you're not.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm not, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 7>Now I know for certain that if I walked up

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 7>the street, there's a house that's got all of the

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 7>signs that are in favor of all of the current things.

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 7>What do we do today, Let's swap out the Ukraine

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 7>sign put in the gaza side. It's got in this house.

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 7>We believe in a variety of unsubstantiated desertions. It's got

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 7>to support the public workers, support the federal workers. Its

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 7>festooned with every single protestation that you can possibly imagine.

0:34:57.560 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 7>And I know that if I walk by that house

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 7>and tip my to the person who came outside, that

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 7>it would be friendly. Because the assumption is if you

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 7>live in this town, you think the right things, you're

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 7>one of the good people.

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, do they have?

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 7>Just a second time in two weeks, twenty five years,

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 7>it's been are.

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 5>Are you losing it?

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 3>I am loving?

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I moving beging to be wrong? Does the sign? Does

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the house with the sign have anything on it about

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the thirty thousand Iranians that a remode down by the regime.

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<v Speaker 7>No, absolutely not. That would be unfortunate. That may be unfortunate,

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<v Speaker 7>but unfortunately, as a lot of these things, it would

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<v Speaker 7>embolden the wrong people to say so, it would embolden

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<v Speaker 7>Donald Trump, it would embolden the Islamophobes, it would embolden etcetera, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you know, thirty thousand people were murdered

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago and the house with the sign doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>note it. I'm amazed by that. The ironies in Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 1>never failed to make James lyas can be read at

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<v Speaker 1>James Lyc dot substack dot com James lyct substack dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week, we hope he's still free. That's we check

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<v Speaker 1>in weekly the Chambe and make sure he's still living

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<v Speaker 1>in the free city of the Twin Cities. Stay to

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<v Speaker 1>in America.