1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: Build Different is a production of the American Association of 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Christian Counselors. To support this podcast and learn how you 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: can help us to promote all our biblical content, spread 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: the Gospel, and provide mental health resources and training to 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: people everywhere, just go to aaccfoundation dot org. Again, that's 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Aaccfoundation dot org. Welcome to Built Different. I'm Zach Clinton, 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: your host, and each week I come to you exclusively 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: on the Life Audio podcast Network. 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Now let's roll. 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: I'll be your host today, doctor Zach Clinton, and today 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: I'm joined by two very special guests whose combined decades 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: of mental health treatment and coaching experience have helped guide 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: so many to find freedom in Christ. To doctor Carl 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: Benzio and Roseanne Forte. Doctor Benzio is a board certified 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: psychiatrist with more than thirty years of clinical experience. He 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: serves as medical director for us HERE at the American 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: Association of Christian Counselors and is also the co founder 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: and medical director of Honey Lake Clinic. 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: Also joining us is. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: Roseanne Forte, a certified alcohol free coach and founder of 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: The Plans He Has for Me, a Christian devotional program 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: that helps people break free from alcohol dependency and other 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: destructive habits. Together, Carl and Roseanne have written a new 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: devotional release this past August titled Transformed by His Promises, 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: a twelve week devotional for freedom from the psychological slavery 35 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: of life interfering behaviors. Doctor Benzio, first and foremost, thank 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: you for joining us. 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: Hey, great to be with you, Zack and all your listeners. 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: Brother and Roseanne, thank you so much for joining us. 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for having This is going to be a wonderful conversation. 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: I've been looking forward to it the entire time. But 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: we're here at the AACC twenty twenty five United World Conference. 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: This is the last day and God has done something special. 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 2: I feel like his peace and his presence has been 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: known and felt and clearly in such divided times, in 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: this cultural moment, gatherings like this matter, Doctor Carr, I'd 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: like to start with you. What is this gathering maybe 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: meant to you and why is it so important? 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's whenever we're out there practicing, oftentimes 49 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 5: as Christians in the behavioral health space, there's a lot 50 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: of isolation. You feel like you're the only one who's 51 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 5: fighting this fight. And whenever you come and you see 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 5: seventy five hundred eight thousand people all on the same page, 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 5: all on the same team, all pretty equipped with some 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 5: special skills, you know. To me, I call them special forces. 55 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 5: We're in a spiritual war. The battlefield is the mind, 56 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 5: and the people here are the special forces, the Army Rangers, 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 5: the Green Beret, the Delta Force. And it's nice when 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 5: we come together and we get on the same page 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 5: and have the same strategy because we know Satan has 60 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 5: this he's fighting, he's using the cultural battles and trying 61 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 5: to distort truth and help us believe lies and live 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 5: in fear. And there's been just a powerful piece that's 63 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 5: here to push away that fear and to see each 64 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 5: other as allies to come together as one big body. Okay, well, 65 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 5: how are we gonna go fight? I like to try 66 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 5: to figure out if I can be a Daniel and 67 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 5: a Joshua. Those are my aspirations. So to be wise 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 5: is Daniel, but to be a fighter and courageous like Joshua. 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: And I think having this kind of group. 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 5: Together, and the amazing people that at the AACC we 71 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 5: get to work with, and the partnerships and collaborations not 72 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: just people on the front lines, but big organizational teams 73 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 5: coming together to produce pretty profound things I think over. 74 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: The next couple of years. 75 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, you know it's funny because I was talking 76 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: to our team before the week even kicked off, and 77 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: I was saying, it's fascinating that we chose this theme 78 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: of United three years ago. We've been praying over what 79 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: should be the theme for twenty twenty five, and God 80 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: placed it on our hearts. Let's call it the United 81 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: World Conference, And in this cultural moment, it's very fitting 82 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: because we need unity now more than ever. Roseanne, for 83 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: you personally, maybe even just echoing some of the things 84 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: that doctor Carl just mentioned, what is this event in 85 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: gathering meant to you as well. 86 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I love the fact that you mentioned the name 87 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 6: of the Conferences United, because I think what I feel 88 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 6: most is being together with this many people who just 89 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 6: care about other people, that just want to use their 90 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 6: backgrounds and circumstances to spread the Word of God and 91 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 6: help people get out of you know, what I call 92 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 6: the abyss and darkness of mental. 93 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Health and. 94 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 6: Really thrive and just being together with all these really 95 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 6: talented people is incredible. It's incredible to learn from some 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 6: of the best minds and collaborate with so many. 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: You know what I love about you guys and your 98 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: collaboration just in this devotional. But you guys bring very 99 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: unique perspectives to this line and work in this field, 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: in this ministry. But doctor Carl your perspective from a 101 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: psychiatrist who specializes in decision making science, and Roseanne obviously 102 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: your perspective as a certified alcohol free coach clinically very 103 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: different perspectives, personally different perspectives. But you guys have unique 104 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: stories and testimonies around this as well. I'd love doctor 105 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: Carr just for you to share a little bit about 106 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: how some of your story has been able to be transformative, 107 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: not only in the lives of countless individuals across the world, 108 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: but specifically as it relates to this new resource we're 109 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: about to unpack. 110 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so ever since how I was five years old, 111 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 5: godly decision making on my heart. Always wanted to be 112 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 5: somebody that helped people with decision making. I was a 113 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 5: bad stutter, got bullied, got made fun of, and why 114 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 5: do people make those kind of decisions? So I don't 115 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 5: know how many people want to be a psychiatrist when 116 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: they're five years old, but that's sort. 117 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 4: Of what I wanted to do. 118 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: God's blessed me as a psychiatrist in many different ways 119 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 5: and opportunities. But I struggled with anxiety, with depression. I 120 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 5: got caught up in alcohol, drug use, much loss, much hurt. 121 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 4: Much pain. 122 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 5: It culminated and getting arrested while I was in medical 123 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 5: school for six felony counts, evgraated assault and was in jail. 124 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 5: Was in jail that Jesus spoke to me and said, Carl, 125 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 5: you made me your savior when you're a little kid, 126 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 5: but you didn't make me the lord of your life. 127 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 5: Make me the lord of your life. I'm going to 128 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 5: teach you things about decision making that will renew your mind, 129 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 5: transform your life, and help you transform other people's lives 130 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 5: as well. Well. At that time, I didn't really know 131 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 5: how I was going to transform other people's lives. I 132 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: just was trying to figure out, how do I just 133 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: get out of jail, and you know, how do I 134 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 5: get my life moving forward in the right direction. So 135 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 5: over a few years it took me to sort of 136 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 5: dig out God working on my life, and I started 137 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 5: mirroring my faith and Christian beliefs and understanding of the 138 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 5: Word to the psychiatric principles that I was learning in 139 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 5: my higher education. And it just became so apparent that 140 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 5: these two things need to go together and that's where 141 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 5: we get the most powerful healing process. And so in 142 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 5: my healing I developed a curriculum and that I've been 143 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 5: able to teach and utilize in private practice and at 144 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 5: Honeylake Clinic and people in Poland and Ukraine, Uganda, Iraq 145 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 5: all around the world in very conflict riddled situations. It 146 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: works because it brings the truth, the truth of God's 147 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 5: Word into people's minds so they can wrestle with it, 148 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 5: so they can understand it and understand how God designed 149 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 5: their mind to work to be able to spit out decisions. 150 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 5: When we do that, that renews our mind, That neuroplasticity 151 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 5: right rewires the brain and allows transformed living. So that's 152 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 5: what Roseanne and I is. She heard me talk about 153 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 5: these kinds of principles. Says, hey, look, that's sort of 154 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: interesting thing that I've been writing about. Let's collaborate on 155 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: a book together about this. And that's sort of what 156 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 5: brought us together, that how do we bring God's truth? 157 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 5: How do we modify people's belief systems. Because beliefs affect decisions. 158 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 5: Decisions affect neurochemistry. So we need to work on those beliefs. 159 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 5: And so we want to bring those biblical beliefs the 160 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 5: b I B l E. The best instruction book we're 161 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 5: living every day. Want to bring that into people's minds 162 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 5: so they can live goided lives. And that's where the 163 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: abundant life really resides and comes from. 164 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to stop this right there and jump into 165 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: say you're listening to Bilt Different, I'm Zach Clinton. We 166 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: need to break for a brief message from our sponsors. 167 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: I'll be back with our guests to keep the conversation flowing. 168 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: Right after this, you're listening to life Audio. Every time 169 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: I hear testimony Doctor Carl, I'm always just inspired of 170 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: the goodness of God and I love you that line 171 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: you always share that there was a point where a 172 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: lot of us have made Him the savior of our lives, 173 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: but it's a choice to make Him the Lord of 174 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: our life every single day, decision by decision, moment by moment. 175 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: And Roseanne, I'm sure you have a testimony being a 176 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: certified alcohol free coach. I would love to just hear 177 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: a little bit more about what God has placed on 178 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: your heart and through your story and testimony. And I 179 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: know you add such incredible depth and value to this 180 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: particular devotional, but I haven't heard your story, so I'd 181 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: love to hear the nuts and bolts. 182 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, it took me a little longer than doctor Carl 183 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 6: to come to this godly decision making point in my life, 184 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 6: but that is where doctor Carl and I are really connected. 185 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 6: I was not a Christian growing up. I did not 186 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 6: give my life to Christ until about thirty three years old, 187 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 6: and I was in the world. I started drinking at 188 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 6: thirteen years old. I wanted, you know, I want to 189 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 6: be the cool kid. And then I became a Christian 190 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 6: and gave my life to Christ, but I didn't really 191 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 6: understand the obedience part of it. 192 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: And what. 193 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 6: Really sticks out to me is I really love Jesus. 194 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 6: Like I went all in, I started teaching the Bible, 195 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 6: I started speaking, and I just kept making decisions that 196 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 6: were more worldly, and I don't you know, I had 197 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 6: one foot in and one foot out, and I just 198 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 6: don't recommend that as a good lifestyle because in addiction, 199 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 6: nobody plans on engaging in substances or behaviors and then 200 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 6: finding out that they can't stop them. And that's kind 201 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 6: of what happens. We trip over a line and we go, wait, 202 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 6: this is interfering with my life, let me stop, And 203 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 6: then you go, how come I can't? And we start 204 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 6: wrestling with it and developing a lot of shame and 205 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 6: the process, especially in the church, you know, that was 206 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 6: really really hard for me because I'm supposed to have 207 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 6: it all together. God's word is about you know, and 208 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 6: you hear these testimonies about people that just miraculously changed, 209 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 6: and that wasn't happening for me, and I didn't understand how. 210 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 6: And my situation got to a really really bad place, 211 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 6: and I was hiding it from everyone pretty well, and 212 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 6: I ended up there were I didn't like any of 213 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 6: the church programs that were available to me. I was 214 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 6: very resistant to a lot of the church programs. So 215 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 6: I went outside the church and somebody challenged me to 216 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 6: a ninety day, ninety day program to change my relationship 217 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 6: with alcohol. I'm like, well, I don't want to quit forever, 218 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 6: but ninety days I can do. And I want to 219 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 6: see what life is like. And my life was so transformed, 220 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 6: I was like, I need the secret sauce. Can I 221 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 6: work with you? Can I learn more? I want to 222 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 6: teach other people, you know, It's that give back thing. 223 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 6: So I started working for them and enrolling people and 224 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 6: talking about the transformation and finding lots of Christians in 225 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 6: the same like there's so much shame. And as I 226 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 6: was learning the science, I was like, wait a minute, 227 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 6: you guys are teaching God's word without God. You're teaching 228 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 6: the kingdom without the king. And so I started just 229 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 6: matching up scripture and what they were teaching and sharing 230 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 6: it with some of the clients that we had in 231 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 6: the coaching program, and they're like, Wow, this is good, 232 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 6: love this, you know, And so that's kind of what 233 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 6: brought me to the first devotional. And again, I was 234 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 6: listening to doctor Carl a couple of years ago and 235 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 6: he's like, hey, yeah, seven thousand and eight thousand people there, 236 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 6: and somehow I end up in the same room with 237 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 6: Doctor Carl, only God, and he's like, here are the 238 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 6: five things that you need in place to transform your life. 239 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 6: And I kept running up and I go, hey, I 240 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 6: think I did that with this devotional and he's like. 241 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: Really, so that's what got us talking. 242 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 6: And like he said, you know, he's like, we're saying 243 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 6: these principles are for not only alcohol but all life. 244 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 6: Interfering behaviors is the word we ended. 245 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: Up with, behaviors. It was actually the World Conference of 246 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: twenty three is where we met. 247 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, you guys, that's fascinating. I love that. God speed. 248 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: Two years later, twenty twenty Fibro Conference, you guys have 249 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: already released this new incredible resource that we're just about 250 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: to unpack. And as you're saying that, you know, my mind. 251 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: Roseanne just went to the idea that underlying addiction is 252 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: often addiction is typically a secondary issue. There's often something 253 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: whether it's overlooked, whether it's being or feeling forgotten, whether 254 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: it's feeling dismissed, and then there's this longing that we 255 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: have to be accepted, and so we'll reach for anything 256 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: to number and esthetize that pain and feel that God 257 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: shaped void in our lives. But then that's why I 258 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: think one of the greatest dangers in our faith is forgetfulness. 259 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: And I think that's the power behind this devotional. Right 260 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: is transformed by His promises. It's almost a practice of remembrance. 261 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: A twelve week devotional for freedom from the psychological slavery 262 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: of life interfering behaviors. Doctor Benzi, if you would obviously 263 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: this is a very not just trusted resource, but I 264 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: know that you guys take great pride and joy in 265 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: creating it for our audience. 266 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: What's at the heart of this devotional if you'd say, my. 267 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 5: Friend, well, I think that decisions impact our brain circuits, right, 268 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: so our life goes the direction of our decisions. When 269 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: we do a push up and we look in the mirror, 270 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 5: we do a push up, and then we look in 271 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 5: the mirror again. Well, we don't really see macroscopic changes, 272 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 5: but microscopically amazing things are happening at our bone or 273 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: muscle or muscle sell or tendons or ligaments. We don't 274 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: notice it. We don't have good radar for that change. 275 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: But that allows us to do another push up the 276 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 5: next day, then two push ups, and then five push 277 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 5: ups at the end of the week, and then twenty 278 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: push ups two weeks later, thirty push ups by the 279 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 5: end of the month, and all of a sudden we 280 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 5: look in Wow, now there's macroscopic changes. And so what 281 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: this does is it helps a person start to make 282 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,359 Speaker 5: those little decisions based on his promises. So we're incorporating 283 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 5: the truth, healthy beliefs to modify their decisions. So now 284 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 5: they make healthy decisions, do that good push up, and 285 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 5: that good push up allows microscopic change to happen, and 286 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: day after day, that microscopic change evolves into macroscopic change. 287 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 5: So a lot of programs like she was talking about, 288 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 5: sometimes programs have non truth associate with them, and they're 289 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 5: trying to do behavior mod based on non truths. We 290 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 5: want to bring God's truths, his promises so we can 291 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 5: remember them, hold on to them, but not just be 292 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 5: this is my intellectual understanding, but this is the actual 293 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 5: truth that's going to guide my Monday through Saturday decision making, 294 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: so I can really renew my mind, rewire my brain, 295 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 5: and transform my life. 296 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: So it's beliefs. 297 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 5: Impact decisions, Decisions impact brain circuits. Brain circuits impact the 298 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 5: rest of our living. 299 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: Brizianne. 300 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at the title here, and life 301 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: interfering behaviors kind of stands out to me because I know, 302 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: as doctor Carl is alluding to that, our decisions determine 303 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: our direction and our direction to termins our destiny. But 304 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm interested what might be some of the most common 305 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: life interfering behaviors that maybe you see working on the 306 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: front lines that you'd say, man, that really robs us 307 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: of not just remembering God's promises but living in the 308 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: flourishing life that He's destined design for his children. 309 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 6: I think, without labeling them, let me let me tell 310 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 6: you what they might look like. Yes, they're stealing our time, 311 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 6: time that we could be spending doing something else, having 312 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 6: relationship with something else. They might be stealing our devotion 313 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 6: to God or keeping us in shame away from God. Right, 314 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:47,479 Speaker 6: they are stealing our relationships with other people. There's somehow 315 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 6: even if you go through I'm checking my cell phone 316 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 6: too often I'm gaming. You know, these things are stealing relationships, 317 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 6: They're stealing productivity, They're stealing our our devotion to God. 318 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 6: And at some point we go, gosh, I just need 319 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 6: to stop this. It's interfering with everything. So now what 320 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 6: could that be? It could be checking your cell phone, 321 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 6: it could be pornography, it could be shopping gambling. Right, 322 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 6: if you think of anything that causes fractured relationships, loss 323 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 6: of productivity, or a loss of connection with your heavenly father, 324 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 6: those you know. And that's why I like the broad 325 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 6: brush of life interfering behaviors because I think it puts 326 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 6: us on the same class we all. Because if you 327 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 6: tell me you don't have any life interfering behaviors, I 328 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 6: might say, well, I think we ought to check line. 329 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 6: And so it's so brought. 330 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: I like to describe it as what it's. 331 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 6: Stealing from your life to decide whether or not you 332 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 6: have one. 333 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: I hapen to. 334 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 5: Find addiction is something that we go to other than 335 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 5: God in a repetitive, habitual or patterned way to get 336 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 5: our needs met. And so we all go to something 337 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 5: other than God periodically to get our needs met, whether 338 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 5: it's power, whether it's control, my agenda, my education, isolation, 339 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 5: you know, quiet time, people, pleasing, getting the attention of others, 340 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: being important, being loved. Some of those things are nice things, 341 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 5: but sometimes they interfere with us going to God first 342 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 5: for those situations rather than relying on him. We're relying 343 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 5: on sort of the created or stuff that we've manufactured, 344 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 5: rather than going to Him and then him allowing him 345 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 5: to direct us to, you know, whatever, that particular situation 346 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 5: that He wants to provide for us to use to 347 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 5: get those needs met. 348 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: Doctor Carl, I want to go back to you here 349 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 2: for a moment because you just touched on something the 350 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: word patterns, and you guys mentioned even in your title again, 351 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: psychological slavery. I think in culture today we are riddled 352 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: with fear, and I think rumination is typically that psychological 353 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: obsession with our own pain, where it's the thing that 354 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: we stay up late, sleep deprivation. Right, it's the first 355 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: thing on our mind in the morning, the last thing 356 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: on our mind every single evening, keeps us up at night. 357 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: It's all we can talk about. 358 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: Sometimes it almost seems like we just get entrenched with 359 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: the self and the challenges we might be enduring. Speak 360 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: to this pattern of what psychological slavery really looks like 361 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: on a practical level for audience. 362 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that we've all experienced pain in our 363 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 5: life and nobody likes pain. No, you know, we always 364 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 5: tell other people no pain, no gain, And in our 365 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: personal life. You know, hey, God, can this cut pass 366 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: for me? 367 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 4: Right? 368 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 5: You know I don't want this homework assignment. I've gotten 369 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 5: plenty of homework assignments already. Can I just have a 370 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 5: season of no homework or no training or no pain. 371 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 5: So we all have hurt in our life. We all 372 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 5: have pain, and we've grown to I want to avoid this, 373 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 5: but we've also figured out ways to sort of self 374 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 5: medicate instead of using Him to be our medicine to 375 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 5: bring our healing. So, you know, my life versus Isaiah 376 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 5: twenty six to three, I have on my bracelet. He 377 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 5: gives him perfect peace, whose mind is fixed on the 378 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 5: because he trusts you, So I always think, but I'm 379 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: not at ease when I don't have perfect peace. My 380 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 5: mind must be fixed on something else. So I must 381 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 5: have some other patterned way. And I have my own 382 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 5: pet things that hopefully there are a lot less than 383 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 5: they were when I was twenty and thirty and forty, 384 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 5: and I trim a few of them off the list. 385 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 5: But unfortunately we're all in this healing process. But a 386 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 5: powerful verse to me is Proverbs four twenty three. So 387 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 5: in Proverbs four twenty three, it says, guard your heart, 388 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 5: or above every charge, look at your heart, or dig 389 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 5: deep into your heart, above every command, for out of 390 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 5: it flows the wellspring of life, or the matters of life, 391 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 5: or the decisions of your life. And so we're often 392 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 5: thinking of that versus a well, let me put a 393 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 5: wall around me to keep bad stuff out. I don't 394 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 5: want pornography, I don't want evil things. I don't want seances, 395 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 5: I don't want drugs. I don't want to be unequally 396 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 5: yoked all that bad stuff, evil. 397 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 4: Stuff I want to keep out. I want to guard. 398 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 4: I want to have by walls up right. I want 399 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 4: to be owned up in the castle. 400 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 5: But what we don't realize is our defenses are supposed 401 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 5: to protect against attacks foreign, but also attacks domestic. So 402 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 5: we already have attackers inside the fortress that we're really. 403 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 4: Not aware of. 404 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 5: So all our guards up on the wall are looking out, 405 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 5: but we don't have guards that are looking in. And 406 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 5: I think, what we miss out in the church a 407 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 5: lot of time is we're not really looking in at 408 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 5: our heart. We're supposed to examine our heart, but we 409 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 5: think that God examines our heart that we don't. 410 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: But we need to be examining. 411 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 5: Our heart as well in the process to figure out, well, 412 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 5: what are those patterns, what are those hurts? What are 413 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 5: those sort of pet things I go to to self 414 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 5: medicate to soothe? Is it food? Is it ESPN? Is 415 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 5: it staying up late? Is it a video game? Is 416 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 5: it my screensography? Is it work, workaholism? Is it my kids? 417 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 5: And you know they're my obsession. There could be a 418 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 5: whole bunch of things, some nice, some not so nice 419 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 5: that Satan has allowed us to sort of build up 420 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 5: and put on the hierarchy and push God out of 421 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 5: that throne of our life. And so what we try 422 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 5: to do in the book is give you an opportunity 423 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 5: to give some truth. Yes, give a little examination in 424 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 5: the mindful minute of the truth, but then journal about that, 425 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 5: to really look inside, to sort of see, well, what 426 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: are some of those attackers, those saboteurs that are already 427 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 5: inside our heart that are tripping us up, that are 428 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 5: sabotaging our life that are keeping us in bondage. How 429 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 5: can we free ourselves from those How can we replace 430 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 5: some of those lives with God's truth, with his promises 431 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 5: to lead us into freedom from that bondage. 432 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: You mentioned the Mindful Minute, and I was just opening 433 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: this up and recognizing the layout. I think this is 434 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: perfect because it starts with the verse, it starts with 435 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: the promise and Roseanne. I know doctor Carl just mentioned 436 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: several verses, even his life vers right there on a bracelet, 437 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: but I would love to hear a couple of promises 438 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: that maybe have carried you through. I think we're all 439 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: in the process of recovery, But what are a couple 440 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: of those promises you cling to. 441 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just listening to doctor Kyle about his verses, 442 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 6: and it's funny how each of us has scripture that 443 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 6: sings to us, and mine is Galatians five one. It 444 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 6: is for freedom that Christ set us free. Stand firm, then, 445 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 6: and do not submit to a yoke of slavery, and 446 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 6: that is you know, psychological slavery. 447 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: Right. We Christ died for us. 448 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 6: And it's taken me a while to realize what this 449 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 6: is really helping me. Understand as I do this ministry, 450 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 6: he is developing in me a fruit of the Holy 451 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 6: Spirit of self control, by being in his word, by 452 00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 6: practicing meditation on his word, by practicing gratitude, by reflecting. 453 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 6: As doctor Carl said, you know, putting this in your heart. 454 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 6: It's not mind knowledge, which I had, but it's it's 455 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 6: allowing it to sink into your heart so that you 456 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 6: live it every day. 457 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, you know several verses that stand out 458 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: to me. I think of Romans eight twenty eight, where 459 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: we know that all things work together for the good 460 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: of those who love God and who have been called 461 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: according to His purpose. 462 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 3: But that verse was a promise that man. 463 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: I wrestled with for a long time, because I say 464 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: it often, and somebody taught me this years ago that 465 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: my definition of good might look a little bit different 466 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: than God's. So I wrestled with that because I'm like God. 467 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: You know, if it ain't good yet, you're not done yet. 468 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: I get that. But like man, my good looks like 469 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: easy and comfortable and convenient and successful. But then the 470 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: very next verse Romans eight twenty nine, it says for 471 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: those he four knew, he also predestined that they might 472 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: be conformed to the image of his son. That's the 473 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: promise that even in the midst of whatever you might 474 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: go through, if it can conform you back to the 475 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: image of Jesus, that's God's definition of good right there. 476 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: And so recognizing that these promises and remembering on them 477 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: and reflecting on them are imperative. But you said something 478 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: rose in the word gratitude. You, guys, easily could have 479 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: just had the left side and had the verse in 480 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: the mindful minute and then the prayer and then on 481 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: the right side. You could have just had an open 482 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: page to journal and reflect. But you intentionally put a 483 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: segment up top as it relates to daily gratitude a. 484 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 3: Verse or not even a verse. 485 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: A quote that comes to mind was one of my 486 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: hardest moments of life. There was a quote that I 487 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: meditated on by Nancy Lee Demas, and she said the words, 488 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: I have recognized that no matter what I come up 489 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: against in my life, I can respond in one of 490 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: two ways. I can whine or I can worship. And 491 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: then she said this, but it's impossible to worship without 492 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: giving thanks. Doctor Carl speak to the importance of gratitude 493 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: and why you guys, wanted to intentionally include that section 494 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: in this devote. 495 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think gratitude is about thinking outside yourself. You know, 496 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 5: so many times when we're stuck, when we're falling into 497 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 5: bad patterns, unhealthy living, there's things that are controlling us. 498 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 5: We get very introspective and we get sort of locked 499 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: inside with a shame, with guilt or with me centeredness 500 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 5: or pointing fingers at others and I'm not getting what 501 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 5: I need or if it was only this, I would 502 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 5: be able to get my life unstuck. And with gratitude, 503 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 5: we start to look outside ourselves. We start to be 504 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: thankful to God. We start to look at the positive 505 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: that He is in our life. He is impacting your life. Wow, 506 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: He's blessed me with so much stuff. Like you said earlier, 507 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 5: you know, we suffer from forgetfulness, you know, amnesia so 508 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 5: many times, and we sort of blow through all the 509 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 5: amazing blessings that we have even just to live in 510 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 5: this lifetime, you know, compared to the Middle Ages or 511 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 5: barbaric times. 512 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: Or you know, much more terrible times. 513 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 5: You know, there's so many things that we can be 514 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: grateful for that allows us to see beyond ourself and 515 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 5: then to hopefully then start to serve others because we 516 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: have a lot of skills, we have a lot of abilities, 517 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 5: we have a calling from God in so many different ways. 518 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 5: So it allows us a perspective that starts to align 519 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 5: with you. To me, Jesus is the wonderful counselor the 520 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 5: great physician, but those together he's the perfect psychiatrist. Right, 521 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 5: so as a psychiatrist he has this healing prescription Matthew thirteen, 522 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 5: verse fifteen. If we see with our eyes here, with 523 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 5: our ears understanding our heart and turn, he would heal us. 524 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 5: And so that's seeing right. We need to see clearly, 525 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 5: and I think gratitude learning gratefulness allows us that opportunity 526 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 5: to see God more clearly, see me more clearly, and 527 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 5: see my circumstances from a godly perspective. 528 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 6: The really cool thing about the devotional and that writing 529 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 6: down of gratitude is if you are putting something to 530 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 6: the side that's life interfering, you get to document, for 531 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 6: eighty four consecutive days how your life is improving. I'm 532 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 6: sleeping better, I had better conversation with my kids, I'm 533 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 6: more productive at work. And so you can follow the 534 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 6: progress of how God is transforming your life, and you're 535 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 6: writing it down, and if I get any any testimonies, 536 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 6: that's that's a very common testimony. 537 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: The gratitude. The gratitude yah. 538 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 5: And those are those microscopic changes that then lead to 539 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 5: microscopic changes. And those microscopic changes just aren't an ethereal 540 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 5: microscopic change. Those are rewiring that's happening in your brain. 541 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 5: So just like paths in the woods, you know, if 542 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 5: you stop using that crappy path, well, it's going to 543 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: start to have bramble and bushes and weeds that grow 544 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 5: in and cover that path. And as you start this path, 545 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: it's a little tough to get this path. But the 546 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 5: more you go into that path, the more it becomes smooth. 547 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 5: The branches are kicked out of the way, the stones 548 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: are moved out of the way, and it gets easier 549 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 5: and easier each one day, day, seven, day, fourteen, day 550 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 5: twenty one. Now this path becomes much more easier to 551 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 5: fall into, and the old path starts to get covered 552 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: up and a lot harder to fall into that pattern. 553 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 5: So that's that neuroplasticity that we wanted to incorporate those 554 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: principles to allow a person to make those subtle decisions 555 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 5: through gratefulness and reflection to allow those little microscopic changes 556 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 5: to lead into macroscopic changes, those neuropathways to get rewired. 557 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 5: So that's what we say, it's renews to mind, rewires 558 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 5: the brain. 559 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: I have one more question for each of you, Roseanne. 560 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: Beginning with you, I'm just thinking about a person out there. 561 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: And we know and the neuroscientific space this idea of 562 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: neuroplasticity that the brain can change, it can adapt over time, 563 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: but there might be somebody out there that feels just 564 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: completely stuck in this season of life and they feel like, man, 565 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: change doesn't even feel possible for me. It's a sort 566 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: of hope and encouragement you'd offer that person. 567 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, when I started this process, I don't think people 568 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 6: can see me, but I'm actually I quit drinking at 569 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 6: sixty years old, and I meet a lot of peeople 570 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 6: in their thirties or forties that say it's too. 571 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: Late for me. 572 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 6: So my story is, Nah, it's not too late. It's 573 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 6: not too late. I feel like a completely new and 574 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 6: transformed human being, and I want people to understand that 575 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 6: that is the enemy talking to you. God has a 576 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 6: plan for your life. He wants to use your story 577 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 6: and follow those people that are leading you and promising 578 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 6: you something different that have gone to the other side, 579 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 6: and God promises you can with him, you can get 580 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 6: to the other side. So that's that's definitely the message 581 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 6: I'd like to send to people. 582 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: I would even add he wants to use it, but 583 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: he's also in it. You may not feel like it 584 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: in this moment, but I'm even reflecting on Isaiah chapter 585 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: forty three, verse two. When you pass through the waters, 586 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: his word says, I will be with you. And when 587 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. 588 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned. 589 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: The flames will not. 590 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 3: Set you a blaze. 591 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: He's a good, gracious God, and he doesn't promise the 592 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: absence of pain, but he always promises his presence in 593 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: the midst of it. That's one of my favorite promises, 594 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: Doctor Carl. Every devotional has a prayer. My last question 595 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: that I want to give to you is what is 596 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: your prayer for the audience memory that picks up a copy. 597 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: Of this book. 598 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, my prayer is that just like whenever I heard 599 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 4: Lord and spoke to me, and I heard from Lord, 600 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: Authority and Authority author I'd always thought I was the 601 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 4: one who was most qualified to write this, How does Carl. 602 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 5: Get the most out of Life Instruction Manual? I knew 603 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 5: me better than anybody else. I love me more than 604 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 5: anybody else. I knew my sins, I knew my weaknesses, 605 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 5: I knew my heirs, I knew my future. 606 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 4: I knew my gifts better than anybody. 607 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 5: So there's nobody more qualified to write that book than me. 608 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 5: But when I heard Lord Authority author, I realized that 609 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 5: he's the one way more qualified to write the hot 610 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 5: does Carl get the most out of Life Instruction Manual? 611 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 5: And that's the Bible, the best instruction book for living 612 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 5: every day. So my prayer for people would be that 613 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 5: they come to that realization that they've been trying to 614 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 5: write their own instruction manual, and that to realize. 615 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: It doesn't work. It's not going to work. 616 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 5: I tried mine, and I rip out that chapter that 617 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 5: didn't work, chuck it, rewrite it that didn't work, put 618 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 5: it out, rewrite it. And I got sick of doing that. 619 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 5: And it took me to get to jail to wake 620 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 5: me up to think, to realize that I can't be 621 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 5: that arrogant to think that I can actually write the book, 622 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 5: that he's already written the book. So to have that 623 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 5: humility of admit that, well, I don't have the power 624 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 5: to write the book. I can't write the book. I 625 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 5: don't have that, and thankfully I don't. It's already been 626 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 5: written and it's a perfect book. It's a wonderful book. 627 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 5: And he's the author of great comebacks. So for anybody 628 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 5: out there who's listening, who's struggling, God has a great 629 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 5: comeback story for every one of us as long as 630 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 5: you follow his book, that instruction Manual. And just like 631 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 5: Roseanne myself, you know, I came from jail and now 632 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 5: I'm impacting thousands and maybe even millions of people in 633 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 5: the different works and activities that I do at Honeylake 634 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 5: Clinic and AACC and beyond we get to impact some money. 635 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 5: We're so blessed that way. I would never thought that 636 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 5: forty years ago. But he has an incredible comeback story 637 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 5: for every listener out there in the audience if we 638 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 5: start to use his instruction manual, because that's really going 639 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 5: to guide our thoughts, rewire our brains, and heal us 640 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 5: even below the neck cardiovascular issues, cancer issue, those kind 641 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 5: of things that spirit mind body integration. God so incredibly 642 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 5: wired us and put us together. Now we can harness 643 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 5: all that superpower that sent us through that godly decision making. 644 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 3: Amen and Amen. 645 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: I challenge and encourage each of our audience members to 646 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: go and pick up a copy of this new book 647 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: transformed by his promises, a twelve week devotional for freedom 648 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: from the psychological slavery of life interfering behaviors Rosane. 649 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: Where can our audience members go to pick up. 650 00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 6: A copy anywhere fine books are sold actually Amazon, our 651 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 6: Barnes and Noble or wherever. 652 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 653 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: In Roseanne Working, our audience go to find out more about. 654 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 6: You www dot choose freedom dot Today. 655 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: Doctor Carl Working, our audience members go to find out 656 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: more about you. 657 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, doctor Carlbenzio dot com, and all the socials at 658 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 5: doctor Carl Benzio and we were number one on the 659 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 5: Amazon bestseller list in positive psychology I'm on, which is 660 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 5: an incredible secular space, Christian counseling and cognitive neuroscience, So 661 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 5: an incredible diversity of topics in this very simple, easy 662 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 5: to read devotional. 663 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: Again, I challenge and encourage each of our audience members 664 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: go pick up a copy today transformed by his promises, Roseanne, 665 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: doctor Carl, thank you so much for your time in 666 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: joining me today. Roseanne, thank you, thank you for having 667 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: me fact, doctor Carl, thanks you. 668 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 4: Gray with his usual Zach