WEBVTT - Should U.S. forces take Kharg Island?

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<v Speaker 1>night to Trey Yanks, carg Island is very much on

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<v Speaker 1>the menu, but he won't say if it's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about that and anything else in the Aaron Moore, Congressman,

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Harrigan, special Forces veteran Green Beerray, Congressman for North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina's first district. Congressmen, welcome back. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about the carg Island option?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Hugh, It's always great to be with you. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that all options need to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>table with Iran, with the exception of American boots on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. I think that that is just not something

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<v Speaker 2>that the American people are willing to saddle up for.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think we still have a lot of options

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of flexibility besides that to get this

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<v Speaker 2>outcome back on track. The President has been working so

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<v Speaker 2>hard to achieve, so I hope that that's not specifically

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<v Speaker 2>on the table.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you and I have talked before.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a difference between rescuing a down pilot

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<v Speaker 2>or taking very specific special operations action on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>to effectuate certain things.

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<v Speaker 3>But seizing and.

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<v Speaker 2>Holding ground in Iran, I don't think that's something that

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<v Speaker 2>my voters are ready to say yes to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Congressman is taking an island that's I guess ten

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<v Speaker 1>miles off the coast, the same as boots on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a very discreete operation. They'd have to do

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<v Speaker 1>a channel crossing to get any kind of offense, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think if you don't control the air, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to work very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the same thing, Yes, I think it is

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing, primarily because surrounding carg Island, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it is miles off to the Iranian coastline, are heights,

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<v Speaker 2>and from those heights, Iran has the ability to launch

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<v Speaker 2>down all sorts of bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Things on whoever ends up being on that island.

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<v Speaker 2>I think certainly the President has even said I think

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<v Speaker 2>you showed on your show that they still have some

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<v Speaker 2>fight left in them.

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<v Speaker 3>They absolutely do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we can't hit things that are buried well

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<v Speaker 2>within you know, the ground, their mountains, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they still have a capability to reach out

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<v Speaker 2>and touch Americans. We certainly have air superiority, We have

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of flexibility.

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<v Speaker 3>We are able to do some incredible things over Iran

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that the carg Island option, with all

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<v Speaker 2>the other options that are on the table to try

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<v Speaker 2>to put Iran in the box that we need him

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<v Speaker 2>to make better decisions. You know, the President's going to

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<v Speaker 2>make his choice.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, again, I just don't think the American people are

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<v Speaker 2>ready for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Option all right now. Some of the other things he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about with I'll get to Pickax Mountain in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>But what he talked about with Cray Yanks last night,

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<v Speaker 1>we're bridges and power plants. I want to make clear

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<v Speaker 1>to the audience. We know the law war. You know

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<v Speaker 1>the law war. They have to shave a duel, a purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>or they're not legitimate targets. They've got to serve the

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<v Speaker 1>IRGC or the ARTASH or they're not a legitimate target.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm quite certain there are a bunch of power

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<v Speaker 1>plants in Tehran that power of the iergc's command and

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<v Speaker 1>control center. So would you like to see that before

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<v Speaker 1>anything on the island happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to see that a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm so so frustrated, Hugh, that we're actually

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<v Speaker 2>in this position, because look, like I said.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got to put Iran in a box. What does

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<v Speaker 3>that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>We have to set the conditions where Iran has only

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<v Speaker 2>two choices. The first is to continue to pursue red

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<v Speaker 2>lines that are not tolerable to the United States in

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<v Speaker 2>the West or with their limited resources, they need to

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<v Speaker 2>take care of the ninety two million people in Iran

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<v Speaker 2>who are not part of the IRGC that want to

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<v Speaker 2>have some semblance of economic opportunity and quality of life.

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<v Speaker 2>We have not set the conditions for that to happen

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<v Speaker 2>in Iran, which is why we are dealing with the

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<v Speaker 2>problems that we have right here today, just like we

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<v Speaker 2>had on day one.

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<v Speaker 3>We need much better target selection, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That means that we have to go after their critical

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<v Speaker 2>infrastructure and we have to turn Iran into Afghanistan if

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to continue this war without it becoming

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<v Speaker 2>a forever war.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to put them in the box or we

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<v Speaker 3>have to leave. Those are the two options.

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<v Speaker 1>So now to Pickax Mountain. The reason I was focused

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<v Speaker 1>in on that is because every expert I listened to,

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<v Speaker 1>David Albright, Mark Dubowitch, Richard Goldberg, they all tell it

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<v Speaker 1>that's the place where the doomsday machine might be being created.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we do about that? Do you think our

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<v Speaker 1>penetrators can shake that to its core?

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<v Speaker 2>We have lots of options to deal with that from

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<v Speaker 2>the air, And yes, I think that what we did

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<v Speaker 2>in Midnight Night Hammer, what we did during the first

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<v Speaker 2>couple weeks of this latest Iranian conflict, I think absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>deals with the nuclear problem. And we can continue to

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<v Speaker 2>have persistent surveillance for those sites, and we can hit

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<v Speaker 2>them at will if they.

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<v Speaker 3>Show any type of activity.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think we've got lots of options on

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<v Speaker 2>the table to deal with this and keep Iran from

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<v Speaker 2>becoming a nuclear Iran, which is one thing that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>agrees about, even if they don't like this war. We

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<v Speaker 2>have to keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's turn now, Congressman Harrigan to the National Defense Authorization

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<v Speaker 1>Act typically the most bipartisan bill. It always passes, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit late some year, but it always passes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's stuck in the Senate. Are you surprised by this

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in the House.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised that this at this juncture. The NBAA

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<v Speaker 2>usually comes through in November December timeframe, although that's way

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<v Speaker 2>later than we want it to be. What is really

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<v Speaker 2>particularly concerning for me, though, is the appropriation side of

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<v Speaker 2>the House, not the authorization side, but the appropriation side.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the President has indicated, and I think everybody understands,

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<v Speaker 2>the world is a very dangerous place right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We're caught in a conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>We simultaneously are mid stride of a transition from old,

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<v Speaker 2>very exquisite, very expensive technologies to these new, less expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>yet very capable and scalable technologies.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to be able to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Those historic investments inside of our military to truly achieve

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump's vision of rebuilding our military. But I see

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of headwinds in Congress right now and impediments

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<v Speaker 2>to that happening. We have to make sure that our

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic colleagues are not playing politics to try to shape

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<v Speaker 2>the election in November, which I am actually very worried

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<v Speaker 2>that they are trying to do on the backs of

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<v Speaker 2>the defense bill and our troops.

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<v Speaker 3>That is Unamerican.

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<v Speaker 2>We all need to come together right now and we

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<v Speaker 2>need to get defense funded so that.

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<v Speaker 3>We do not have a defense disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there going to be a reconciliation three point zero,

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Eragan that folks exclusively or nearly exclusively on defense finding, boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what that is. Exactly what our leadership wants.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's what President Trump wants, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that that happens because we need that very badly. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>we aren't having something our Democratic colleagues vote for the

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<v Speaker 2>supplemental to resupply the munitions that we've depleted in the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian conflict, because they can't seem to find the courage

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, even though our military needs it. Their

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<v Speaker 2>base cannot extract that vote from their support of the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian conflict.

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<v Speaker 3>And they are unwilling to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are now having to shift the supplemental to

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<v Speaker 2>reconciliation to actually just resupply what we have expended and

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<v Speaker 2>allow the United States to address other contingencies that might

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<v Speaker 2>not be our choice around the world that we have

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<v Speaker 2>to be prepared for. But heugh all be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see the math in the Senate for this

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. So I think we are entering a very

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<v Speaker 2>very dangerous time for defense. Certainly all of us in

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<v Speaker 2>the House are going to put forward every effort.

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<v Speaker 3>To get this across the finish line.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be one hundred percent supportive of leadership here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know that we have the numbers to

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<v Speaker 2>get to an outcome. And math is very hard in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States Senate right now, and that could be

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<v Speaker 2>very problematic for defense.

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<v Speaker 1>If the House Busure Committee passes a reconciliation, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find fifty votes. You might lose. Sennry McConnell might

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<v Speaker 1>not be back from the hospital, But I would think

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<v Speaker 1>of the fifty two Republican votes that are left, you

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<v Speaker 1>could lose too, and so have the Vice President vote

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<v Speaker 1>for it. So I think I reconcilate what should the

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<v Speaker 1>number be, though Congressman Harrigan they have they got a

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<v Speaker 1>ballpark for reconciliation three point zero, because I'd go for

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you could get.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no question about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the House Arms Service Chair put out

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday that it's in line with the supplemental, which is

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<v Speaker 2>right around seventy billion dollars for defense. Now, again that

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<v Speaker 2>turns reconciliation, which should be forward looking dollars into rearward

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<v Speaker 2>looking dollars. That doesn't actually move the ball forward further.

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<v Speaker 3>But the problem here.

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<v Speaker 2>Is is that Number one, you've got to get it

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<v Speaker 2>past the moderates in the House who are looking at

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<v Speaker 2>either no offsets or offsets that are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult for them to swallow with an election coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you get it past the House, you still

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<v Speaker 2>have again a math problem in the Senate with onesie

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<v Speaker 2>two Z votes of people that just fundamentally aren't going

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<v Speaker 2>to support the president because they're not running for reelection.

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<v Speaker 2>They're turning out and they've got personal beefs with him

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<v Speaker 2>and him with them. And you've got some senators that

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<v Speaker 2>are up for reelection with votes that would be very tough.

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<v Speaker 3>For them to take.

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<v Speaker 2>And so look, I think it's plain and simple we

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<v Speaker 2>have to fund defense, but every single member has to

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<v Speaker 2>see it that way. We have to work together as

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<v Speaker 2>a team. If we can do that, we can get

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<v Speaker 2>it across the finish line. I just don't have full

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<v Speaker 2>confidence that that can happen, Hugh. And that's the most

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<v Speaker 2>honest answer I can give you.

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Pat. That's why I like having you on. You

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<v Speaker 1>always speak to your mind, tells what exactly is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you can go work with your colleagues on

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<v Speaker 1>the House floor to get that supplemental through and to

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<v Speaker 1>the reconciliation process, then double it, because I actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>think if the Democrats take either of the houses, either

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<v Speaker 1>the House of Representative of the Senate, we won't get

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<v Speaker 1>defense spending. We'll have another sequestration will be a disaster

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<v Speaker 1>because they're fundamentally anti defense. Pat Rarogan, good to see you,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina First District. Thank your friend. I'll be right

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<v Speaker 1>back with noa rockman, America take it.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, if we left right now, it would take them

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<v Speaker 4>twenty years to rebuild what they have. The only way

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<v Speaker 4>you can negotiate with these people to see strength, and

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<v Speaker 4>the only strength is military strength.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what we've done.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean literally two days ago we had a

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<v Speaker 4>deal and then they broke it at the last moment.

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<v Speaker 1>They broke it well Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewittt.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joined by Noah Rockman, senior writer for National Review.

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<v Speaker 1>Noah the President was on with Trey Yinks last night

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<v Speaker 1>at length talking about you know, we got the only way,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing they understand, its force, What do you

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<v Speaker 1>make of it?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's about time that he came to that revelation.

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<v Speaker 5>We lost a lot of ground over the course of

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<v Speaker 5>the ceasefire and the MoU, and I'm glad that we

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<v Speaker 5>didn't allow it to go the full sixty days. You

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<v Speaker 5>know that in the slink away scenario where Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just walks away from this war, declares victory

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<v Speaker 5>and detreat and retreats, he allows the MoU to persist,

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<v Speaker 5>extends it beyond the sixty day deadline, almost indefinitely.

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<v Speaker 3>And he didn't do that. He deserves credit for it.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, you can envision a scenario in which

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<v Speaker 5>the Iranians say, as they did, that we had some

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<v Speaker 5>rogue IRGC commanders on our hands here and they're responsible

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<v Speaker 5>for these attacks on ships, not us. Don't stop the

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<v Speaker 5>negotiations and we didn't fall for it. Good for us,

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<v Speaker 5>still better, we've executed hundreds of sorties over the last

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<v Speaker 5>five days. We're executing daylight raids, which suggests we still

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<v Speaker 5>have high altitude air superiority even after three months of

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<v Speaker 5>a pause, and energy markets have not responded as they

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<v Speaker 5>did at the outset of this war. In February, Brent

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<v Speaker 5>crude jumped a bit, and it's going to continue to rise,

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<v Speaker 5>but it didn't rise to apocalyptic levels, which is Donald

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<v Speaker 5>Trump's pain threshold. He already demonstrated that his pain threshold

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<v Speaker 5>is around one hundred and ten dollars per barrel of

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<v Speaker 5>crude at Brent crude, and when we get there, things

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<v Speaker 5>start getting dicey. But we're not there yet, so all good,

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<v Speaker 5>all good. At the same time, I'm with Jonathan Chanzer

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<v Speaker 5>on this. I think we've stumbled into the right strategy.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's the strategy that will take a long time

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<v Speaker 5>to execute and to bear It will bear fruit months

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<v Speaker 5>from now, not days from now, now weeks from now.

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<v Speaker 5>And the President in his interview with Trey Ginst did

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<v Speaker 5>indicate that he wants this thing to be over pretty quickly,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's talking about, you know, bridges and power plants day,

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<v Speaker 5>which he was talking about during the high tempo combat

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<v Speaker 5>phase he was talking about it during the ceasefire. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not a threat that I think holds a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>weight because he's issued it so many times, and if

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<v Speaker 5>he's looking for a quick fix of this thing, I

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<v Speaker 5>just think he's going to find that there is none.

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<v Speaker 5>That this is going to be a long sustained campaign,

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<v Speaker 5>and he should prepare the American people for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Its analogue is the Balkan War, not the Libyan War,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Balkan War, where in fact, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was seventy eight days of consecutive bombing. Then we stopped

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<v Speaker 1>and Melosovich collapsed three months later. But before we do it,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a target list, Noah. One of those targets is

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<v Speaker 1>Pickax Mountain. I spent most of my time with the

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<v Speaker 1>President on Monday talking about pick tax Mountain because it

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<v Speaker 1>mystifies Rich Goldberg and Mark Dubowitz and Eli Lake and

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<v Speaker 1>David Albright, the smart guy's about nukes. It mystifies them.

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<v Speaker 1>We have not hit that. So what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>of that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>And I saw David Albright say that there's a misconception

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<v Speaker 5>out there that this is just beyond our power to reach,

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<v Speaker 5>that it is so thoroughly buried and it's so well

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<v Speaker 5>secured that even our most power orful penetrating ordinance couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>reach it.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, that's not necessarily true. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't on our initial target list, either in Midnight

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<v Speaker 5>Hammer or Epic Theory, And perhaps that's because intelligence suggests

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<v Speaker 5>that they don't have the kind of cascading centrifuges that

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<v Speaker 5>we think they could have down there. It's capable to have,

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<v Speaker 5>not necessarily that it does have. This is pure speculation

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<v Speaker 5>on my part, but I am also of the view

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<v Speaker 5>that which is I think David Albright's view that because

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<v Speaker 5>we have such powerful surveillance over this country signals intelligence,

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<v Speaker 5>reconnaissance intelligence, as well as on the ground intelligence via

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<v Speaker 5>the israelis that it's so penetrated that if they were

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<v Speaker 5>to restart something like a program designed to develop a

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<v Speaker 5>ficial visionable.

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<v Speaker 3>Device, we would see it. We'd see it long before

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<v Speaker 3>it came to fruit. So I'm less concerned.

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<v Speaker 5>About neutralizing Pickaxe Mountain than I am about securing the Strait.

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<v Speaker 5>To me, that is just the final linchpin in this

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<v Speaker 5>campaign and establishes a very durable press the president that

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<v Speaker 5>was established after Midnight Hammer which is that no president

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<v Speaker 5>Republican or Democrat after this president will want to preside

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<v Speaker 5>over the nuclear breakout of the Iranian regime. Even if

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<v Speaker 5>there are critics of these operations, they'll nevertheless commit to

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<v Speaker 5>a lawnmowing campaign just to avoid being the guy who

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<v Speaker 5>lost the Iran War, to avoid being the person who

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<v Speaker 5>presided over Iran's nuclearization. If the strait persists in the

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<v Speaker 5>condition that it's in, that calculation changes, Democrats and Republicans

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<v Speaker 5>after this president will say, well, this really wasn't worth

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<v Speaker 5>the problems that I create for my predecessor and for myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I really think.

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<v Speaker 5>Once we get the straight back that we've completed every

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<v Speaker 5>objective of this campaign that's achievable.

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<v Speaker 1>That argument is working. The next rathe I'm concerned with

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty months between now and when President Trump laves office.

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<v Speaker 1>I also asked him do we have the capacity? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>we've wiped out the first string, the second string, and

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<v Speaker 1>had their third strings. So my question was do we

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<v Speaker 1>know can we find can we kill what's left of

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<v Speaker 1>the third string and the fourth string in the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>s tring? And he said yes, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it a do you believe him, they

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<v Speaker 1>should we do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I believe him. I do believe him.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that the Israelis, in particular, we're saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we have locations on these people and we should take

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<v Speaker 5>action on that, and that the President was dissuaded against

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<v Speaker 5>that course. These we were in the midst of negotiations,

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<v Speaker 5>and I believe there were some folks in the President's

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<v Speaker 5>here saying, well, these are you know, these are being

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<v Speaker 5>these are productive talks, and we should allow them to

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<v Speaker 5>to reach to your ultimate conclusion. I'm glad that he

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<v Speaker 5>didn't follow that course indefinitely. It was not productive as

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<v Speaker 5>productive as some people said.

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<v Speaker 7>He should be.

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<v Speaker 5>So should he continue to execute these assassination campaigns, I

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<v Speaker 5>think at this stage it's warranted. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 5>we have many indications that the cast of characters we're

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<v Speaker 5>dealing with now either has the capacity to negotiate on

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<v Speaker 5>behalf of the Iranian regime as comprehensive organism, or that

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<v Speaker 5>they're willing to compromise in ways that would satisfy the president.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, the theory of this war was to get

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<v Speaker 5>down these layers and find somebody worth talking to.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get to the Blood and Progress portion

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<v Speaker 1>of my segment, which is it will next be tested.

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<v Speaker 1>The theory of blood and Progress in your new book

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<v Speaker 1>will be tested in Michigan. I was on Fox and

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<v Speaker 1>Friends this morning talking about l SI Ed versus Haley Stevens.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is going to happen up there?

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<v Speaker 1>Because LSA Ed is definitely a Blood and Progress candidate.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he is, and before two weeks ago, I would

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<v Speaker 5>have said that he's on a glide path to win

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<v Speaker 5>this nomination. There's been some recent polling that suggests Haley

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<v Speaker 5>Stevens is making a bit of a comeback. She's a

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<v Speaker 5>more establishmentarian candidate in this race by no means conservative,

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<v Speaker 5>but establishmentarian satisfies the shoot the Chuck Schumer wing of

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<v Speaker 5>this party.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know which direction this primary is going

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<v Speaker 3>to go.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, I would have said that the DSA takeover of

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<v Speaker 5>the Democratic Party was encountering no speed bumps until all

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<v Speaker 5>this grand Platiner thing happened, and then all of a

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<v Speaker 5>sudden we get what looks like some buyer's remorse on

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<v Speaker 5>behalf of Republican primary voters. I'll wait until August fourth,

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<v Speaker 5>which is Michigan's primary, to make a final determination there.

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<v Speaker 5>But if this proves to be illusory, if that Miarage

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<v Speaker 5>and Elsa wins this primary, it demonstrates that the Democratic

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<v Speaker 5>Party has succumbed to a level of radicalization that I

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<v Speaker 5>never anticipated they would succumb to, and that they will

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<v Speaker 5>almost certainly regret, whether it's this year or in twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty eight. The Islamicization of this party. We can't even

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<v Speaker 5>call it a radicalization. It's not even socialism. It is

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<v Speaker 5>a red Green alliance. It is radical. Islam has become

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<v Speaker 5>a wedge issue in Michigan, shockingly enough, and it's one

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<v Speaker 5>where it can go kind of either way. Regardless of

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<v Speaker 5>how the Democratic Party resolves this conflict, it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>haunt them. They spent the twenty twenty six primary season

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<v Speaker 5>chin stroking and ruminating over the virtue of the Islamic

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<v Speaker 5>indictment of the United States and Mila Kiros's words, the

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<v Speaker 5>Colorado woman who won the primary in Chicago's in Colorado's

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<v Speaker 5>first she says that we are articulates the logical some

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<v Speaker 5>have been laden articulating for nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, I'm reconstructed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good word for it. I'm reconstructed. Red Green Alliance.

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<v Speaker 1>Nos c Rossman, author of Blood and Progress, senior writer

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<v Speaker 1>for National To thank you for joining me, stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 8>To the jew As.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back America. United States Senator Jim Talent, now retired

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<v Speaker 1>from the United States Senate, a senior fellow with the

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan Institute of Peter's Strength, he joins me every week, Senator,

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<v Speaker 1>you watched the President talk to me on Monday, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Trey Yankst on Tuesday. Just got done with Edward

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence at Fox saying the same thing, as rhetoric is

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly pointed towards Iran and we're hammering the heck out

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<v Speaker 1>of him. What do you think as something worked from

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<v Speaker 1>the President's mind? What do you think?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>I think this was so something he considered all along.

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<v Speaker 9>You.

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<v Speaker 10>I remember when we signed the MoU our friends and

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<v Speaker 10>who have the same position we do regarding Iran. We're

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<v Speaker 10>very concerned that we were going to give up all

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<v Speaker 10>these assets, give all these things to the Iranians. Well

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<v Speaker 10>what happened was the oil started moving, which is what

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<v Speaker 10>the President wanted, and the Iranians got nothing. They got

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<v Speaker 10>no unfrozen assets, they got no three hundred.

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<v Speaker 8>Billion dollar rebuilding fund.

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<v Speaker 10>And they couldn't sell their oil anybody but the Chinese, who,

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<v Speaker 10>by the way, have now decided since the sanctions have

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<v Speaker 10>been reasserted that even their teapot refineries don't want them.

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<v Speaker 10>And so that's why the Iranians attacked again. They've played

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<v Speaker 10>the only card they got and so now we are

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<v Speaker 10>punishing them. And it would not surprise me at all

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<v Speaker 10>if we don't see some serious outreach from the Iranians

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<v Speaker 10>in the next week or two that they want negotiations.

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<v Speaker 8>If this oil.

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<v Speaker 10>Keeps moving and Sentcom says they are prepared and postured

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<v Speaker 10>to keep it moving, then I think the Iranians are

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<v Speaker 10>going to have to seek some kind of a settlement

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<v Speaker 10>that enables them to get out from under this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator, the first thing I want to see on any

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<v Speaker 1>m OU two point zero is access for the IAEA

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<v Speaker 1>to Pickax Mountain. I talked about it with the President,

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it with Trey Yanks, He's talked about it again,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's on the map now and it's very

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<v Speaker 1>easy to say, go take a look, IAEA. Have two

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<v Speaker 1>days down there, We'll have He's fire all around. Shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>we have a step by step m ou. If we

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<v Speaker 1>go back to m OU two.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, if they're prepared to go far enough to actually

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<v Speaker 10>give up this enriched uranium, that I guess they've got.

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<v Speaker 10>The kind of deal that I'm thinking about, though, is

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<v Speaker 10>one where they basically just agree to allow international traffic

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<v Speaker 10>through the strait. They really do stop threatening it, and

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<v Speaker 10>they don't get anything for that.

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<v Speaker 8>In other words, they throw in the towel on that.

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<v Speaker 10>I think the President would probably agree to that because

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<v Speaker 10>you and I know we want the rest of the

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<v Speaker 10>enriched uranium. This nuclear program, in my opinion, is effectively dead.

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<v Speaker 10>I think the reason the President's pushing so hard to

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<v Speaker 10>get the enriched uranium and to shut it down entirely

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<v Speaker 10>is he's concerned about what may happen when he leaves office.

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<v Speaker 10>He wants to take care of it fully, finally, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 10>because he's concerned about what his successors may do. But

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<v Speaker 10>as for me, I mean, I'm not saying it's not

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<v Speaker 10>a risk, but it's so much less compared to where

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<v Speaker 10>we were before Operation Midnight Hammer in the last six months,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not that worried about it myself.

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<v Speaker 1>All right now, I want I don't want ten things

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<v Speaker 1>that are as confusing as MoU two was, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want a lot of I just want you. Maybe yours

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<v Speaker 1>a step one, stop shooting at ships for two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>will stop bombing you after that. That's a pretty simple proposition, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you stop shooting at ships. Yeah we'll stop bombing, but

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<v Speaker 1>for two weeks, we're going to blow up a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's our list. Do you think the leaders that

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<v Speaker 1>he told me, we know where they are, we can

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<v Speaker 1>get them. Should we go get the third string?

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<v Speaker 8>That would be a great way to pressure them.

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<v Speaker 10>And I would be surprised if there are not factions

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<v Speaker 10>within the Iranian leadership that would be prepared to agree to.

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<v Speaker 8>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, they're under such an enormous pressure now they

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<v Speaker 10>have to start focusing on regime survival. Iranian power has

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 10>been broken, their strategy has been shattered. They're completely isolated.

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 10>Their Gulf state neighbors are now shooting at them. And

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<v Speaker 10>there's a point where where even the hardliners are going

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<v Speaker 10>to say, you know what, we need to drink a

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 10>little bit more of the poison chalice now and go

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<v Speaker 10>back and hide and buy for a while, focus on

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<v Speaker 10>trying to get some streams of revenue, keep the regime

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<v Speaker 10>in power, and then outweigh Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah the dog that to me, yeah, the dog that

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.479
<v Speaker 1>hasn't parked. They did not shoot at Israel. What's that

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<v Speaker 1>tell you?

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<v Speaker 10>They knew what was going to happen if they shot

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<v Speaker 10>at Israel, and they've seen what's happened now when they

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.959
<v Speaker 10>shot at us. And to me, the thing I'm watching

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<v Speaker 10>now you is the price of oil. It's gone up

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<v Speaker 10>a little bit, but if it stays between seventy and

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 10>eighty dollars a barrel, then effectively their ability to threaten

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 10>the strait is gone. And as far as I can

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 10>see you, that's the last thing they've got left. They

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 10>got no missiles to speak of, no drones, no navy

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 10>they get their proxies are either destroyed or under tremendous

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<v Speaker 10>pressure from Israel.

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<v Speaker 8>And of course they have no real new program left.

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 10>So the one thing they had was the ability to

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<v Speaker 10>threaten the strained, because it doesn't take much power.

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<v Speaker 3>To do that.

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<v Speaker 8>The who this can threaten coastal shipping.

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<v Speaker 9>You.

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<v Speaker 10>So if we're if we force them to back down

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<v Speaker 10>from that, then what we have done is destroyed their capability,

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 10>which you know, I'll remind everybody listening. That was the

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 10>object of the mission to destroy their capabilities to aggress

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 10>against their neighbors and against US.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim, did you notice that Ukraine last night sunk a

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>boat right off the coast of putin Is Villa in

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the Sea of Azov using sea based cruise missiles. I

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>still worry that Ron's going to get something that we

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know about, and they're going to get a lucky

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>shot the Sheffield off.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, look, you can never eliminate the risk entirely,

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<v Speaker 10>and if as long as the regime stays in power

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 10>and has not done in Venezuela, we're going to have

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.919
<v Speaker 10>to keep managing the situation. But basically, I think the

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 10>plan going forward view is that the military power in

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 10>the region going to be supplied mostly by Israel. I

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 10>think that's what the President has in mind. In other words,

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 10>there'll be a new balance of power in the Middle East.

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 10>It'll be run by the United States will be the

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 10>leader Israel, the Gulf States, Egypt, Jordan, et cetera. We

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 10>will be stitching together economic partnerships among those countries, and

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 10>to the extent military power is needed, the Israelis will

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 10>be largely providing it. And that is a recipe for

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 10>an equilibrium in the Middle East which would permit us

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 10>to draw our forces down there.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that's what the President has in.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind, and maybe a collapse of the regime in a

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>few months as Melosovich went down after the bombing. I

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>think it was a few months after the bombing stop

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that Melosevich felt, Am I correct?

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<v Speaker 8>Then they fell?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, And look, I think the collapse of the regime

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 10>is inevitable.

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<v Speaker 8>I just don't know how imminent it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said, is all. Jim Talent, Thank you, Senator, follow

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>him on x at. Jim Talent, happy to welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're Admiral Mark Montgomery, retired United States Navy joined us

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>from Kiev, Ukraine tonight. Admiral, thank you for staying up late.

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<v Speaker 1>What did Ukraine do in the Cea of Azov yesterday?

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<v Speaker 11>You know they're continuing to impose costs on the on

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 11>the Russians. You know they've been doing mid range strike

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 11>against logistics systems of trucks, cars of fuelers trying to

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 11>get from through their language to Crimea.

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 6>That mid range strikes going great.

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 11>They've been doing long range strike on the fossil fuel

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 11>production refining delivery, and now they've expanded that to include

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 11>the fossil fuel distribution going on through the Sea of Azov,

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 11>you know, moving around trying to avoid being a pinned

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 11>land target. So look, this is the natural extension of

0:27:56.119 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 11>the development of Ukraine's domestic drone into street their ability

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 11>to target at deeper and deeper ranges inside Russia, and

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 11>Russia's inability to conduct air defense.

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 6>Over all of Russia at all times.

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>So I add, well, do we have to start worrying

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>fast about our adversaries obtaining the technology that Ukraine is

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>using the devastating effect to the navy, scene and air

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>forces of Russia.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 11>So I think our ground forces do, and I think

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 11>we've seeing that in the Middle East, where a fairly inexpensive,

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 11>easy to reasonably easy to shoot.

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 6>Down Shahed drone has rend.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 11>Tavoc on our Arab allies and on some of our bases,

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 11>particularly the ones on the east. We have very good

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 11>air and maritime air defense, and it translates into pretty

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 11>good air maritime drone defense, which is to say, our aircraft,

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 11>if they can get behind the drone swarm, can.

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 6>Have tried it away.

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 11>But the problem is you've got to get behind it,

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 11>and what we're seeing the Middle East to these short

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 11>range shots you know, from Iran and the Bahrain, Qatar,

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 11>UAE Kuwait and Prince Sultan a base in Saudi Arabia

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 11>where we can't get behind them to shoot them down

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 11>with our rocket systems on the planes in time. And therefore,

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 11>and we don't have a ground based drone interceptor program

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 11>like Russia doesn't have one.

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<v Speaker 6>The one country that have, by the way, is Ukraine.

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 6>I was out there the other day.

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<v Speaker 11>I saw about eight or nine ground based interceptor operations.

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 11>They have twenty three different varieties of ground based interceptors,

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 11>one of which, by the way, made by an American company,

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 11>Eric Schmidt's team, the mir OPS, is really among the

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 11>very best.

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<v Speaker 1>When we talk about the development in warfare. I noticed

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Saronic three of their coursairs went into and took out

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>navy resources and a submarine and a sub pen andy Iran.

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that the future of the navy? Did we just

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>see that? Nobody noticed?

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 11>So I've been watching it for two years here in Ukraine,

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 11>and you're correct. I thought no one was noticing. Got

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 11>to give the Navy credit. They moved forward faster with

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 11>Saronic then we knew. Remember Saronic did a rescue of

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:21.959
<v Speaker 11>a couple helicopter down helicopter air crewmen about a month ago,

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 11>and now Saronic has done strikes, these unmanned surface vessel strikes.

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 6>Now, as you remember, the Ukrainians.

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 11>Have been doing this for about two years in the

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 11>Black Sea, just hammering the Russian fleet, driving the back

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 11>deeper deeper into.

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 6>The Sea of Azov and other areas far away.

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 11>And in fact, yet two days ago they beat they

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 11>had an unmanned surface vessel of the Ukrainians beach deep

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 11>behind enemy lines, off rolled a ground unmanned vehicle with

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 11>a fifty caliber gun on it, came in behind Russian

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 11>positions and killed shot him. And then they observed it

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 11>with an unmanned aerial vehicle, as you know, is a

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 11>top cover.

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 6>So you had.

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 11>Ground air and maritime, a joint unmanned vehicle fest and

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 11>one thing. So yes, this is this is a change,

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 11>particularly in latoral warfare. I'm not sure this changes, you know,

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 11>the fight out around the second island chain to the

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 11>same degree, but it definitely changes the fight in the littoral.

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 6>You know, as we see in the navy inside the

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 6>first island chain.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and well let's get your take on what

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>is happening in Iran in real time. I talked to

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the President on the show on Monday. He's concerned about

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Pickaxe Mountain. He knows about it. I think he's finally

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>got on the target list. We're talking about a being

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>on the target list, and it looks like five days

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>in a row we've been hammering them. How do you

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>assess what's going on there?

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 11>Look, we're applying a lot of combat power to Iran's

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 11>ability to impact the straight over moves. In other words,

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 11>the area from vander O Bas to Boushir, you know,

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 11>fifty to seventy kilometers deep inside Iran. We're hitting there

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 11>to hit draw launch sites, small boat launch sites, missile

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 11>launch sites. Have actually been some cruise missiles fired. We're

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 11>trying to prevent the IRO audience will be able to

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 11>impose their will. I think we're also hitting the small

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 11>islands that around occupies in the Strait to kind of

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 11>eliminate them as a base for weaponry. This is necessary,

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 11>this is what you need to do if you're eventually

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 11>going to say the Southern Transit scheme, the one closest

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 11>to Oman is open for business, and we're going to

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 11>have to really clear that, you know, it's clear back

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 11>the brushes far, you know, and make it painful for

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 11>anyone to stick their head up.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 6>And this is going to take several weeks.

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<v Speaker 11>I think of probably more than one hundred and forty

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 11>combat missions a day, two hundred and fifty three hundred

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 11>combat misses a day by the Air Force and Navy

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 11>against that target set.

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>The President talked today in Pennsylvania about the power plants

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and bridges option, which he says is next week if

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>they don't start talking to us. Seriously, He's tired of

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>them saying a to our negotiating team and then coming

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>out and saying not a. Do you think that that's

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>going to actually transpire this time?

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 11>So first I'll guarantee Iran continues to be you know,

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 11>stubborn and unproductive negotiators. I have forty seven years of

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 11>history on my side there. Okay, With that said, what

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 11>I talked about was how you create the conditions for

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 11>the flow, how you the create additions for them to

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 11>come back to the operating the negotiating table as a

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 11>full on blockade, which he's also put in place along

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 11>with strikes that hurt his industrial base, the Iron's industrial base,

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 11>and so I think he can legitimately hit many of

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 11>the bridges. Many of the power plants in the country

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 11>are legitimate military targets, and so I think he can

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 11>hit those. Some bridges are not and some power plants

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 11>are not. And I think our planners can tell the distinction.

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 11>They'll pass that up through Admiral Cooper and General Kine,

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 11>and the President will understand which ones are hitting which

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 11>ones for By the way, I got to agree with

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 11>something he said earlier, he should throw a few.

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 6>Out.

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I hope did you say you do or you don't

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>agree with that? Admiral you broke up a little bit.

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 3>I said, do you agree.

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Or not agree that he should hit Pickaxe Mountain with

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 1>some massive ordinance penetrators. I think, oh, you do.

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 6>I agree.

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Last question, then, Admiral, in terms of what we're doing

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>to our navy, Admiral Cooper's got to be a friend

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>of yours. Here's just your colleagues. I'm sure from somewhere

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>down the road. Are we putting too much of his

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>stress on the United States Navy. They've been over there,

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 1>the Lincoln's been there four months and the bush has

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>been there one or two. Are we able to sustain

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:49.800
<v Speaker 1>this for a long period of time six months?

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 6>Say we can.

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 11>The implication what we have to worry about is what

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 11>we did in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen when we

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 11>let this kind of extended deployment for the Navy and

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 11>air Force go on for eighteen months. It went on

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 11>for eighteen months. The Navy warned the Department of Defense that, hey,

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 11>in twenty you know, sometime in the future, we won't

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 11>be able to deploy carries. And sure enough, in twenty seventeen,

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 11>no aircraft carrier was able to deploy, and our aircraft

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 11>fighter air force fighter readiness dropped from say sixty percent

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 11>to thirty percent. So if you do this kind of

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 11>sustained operation for a total about eighteen months, that means,

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 11>you know, from February of twenty you know, twenty six

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<v Speaker 11>to September twenty twenty seven, you're guaranteed to be in trouble.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say the pain really starts around the month

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<v Speaker 6>twelve with this.

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<v Speaker 11>That's when you're doing cheat of backflips in terms of deployments,

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<v Speaker 11>and you'll really impact Navy and air Force readiness but

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<v Speaker 11>eighteen months is where guaranteed hard pain comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had a minute left, we have some flexibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Then does that mean hit him as hard as you

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<v Speaker 1>can for six months, because we're going to run out

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<v Speaker 1>a runway after six months and we have to draw back,

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<v Speaker 1>resupply and rest.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>I would the best if you got the forces there,

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<v Speaker 11>you use them. We have the ammunition for that. We

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<v Speaker 11>have the short range you know, precision strike jadmrs. We

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<v Speaker 11>have hundreds at that. We have you know, one hundreds

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<v Speaker 11>of thousand of these kind of precision got ammunitions. We

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<v Speaker 11>do have shortfalls in certain areas, but not in those.

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<v Speaker 11>We can do this mission. We can keep doing this mission.

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<v Speaker 11>We've suppressed the enemy air defense.

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<v Speaker 6>We could do this. We can do the blockade.

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<v Speaker 11>We can go seize the ships that got through a

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<v Speaker 11>week ago though you know before the blockad was in.

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<v Speaker 6>Give a little extra pain, seize those ships. Apply combat power.

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<v Speaker 11>When it's available, don't keep it in reserve and then

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<v Speaker 11>have to use it three six months later.

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<v Speaker 6>I would use it now while you got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Mark Montgomery from Kiev, thank you for joining us, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so illuminating on so many fronts. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're admal Montgomery returning. I take Navy. Thank you call

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<v Speaker 1>them on exit. Marc se Montgomery and your fellow with

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<v Speaker 1>the Foundation for Defensive Democracies always a welcome guest, pays

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<v Speaker 1>not yet listened to my Getting Hammered today, had dropped

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, but I know you were talking about the buffalo. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the buffalo once and I couldn't watch it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the guy who got hammered by the buffalo alive?

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<v Speaker 13>He's not only alive, he is injured, but he's doing

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<v Speaker 13>well and apparently was in good spirits throughout. He seems

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<v Speaker 13>like a real Western, tough grandpa type. And I theorized

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<v Speaker 13>that the bison only went after him because he was

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<v Speaker 13>jealous of his tremendous beard, which was about down to

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<v Speaker 13>his middle button on his button down, or rather his overalls,

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<v Speaker 13>which is what he was wearing in the video.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe it was because the royalty check didn't

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<v Speaker 1>clear from buffalo wild wings. I didn't. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was the craziest thing. I thought buffaloes were Pacific, didn't you.

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<v Speaker 13>No, I know that they're not, because I've been the

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<v Speaker 13>Yellowstone a couple of times, and I have been in

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<v Speaker 13>not in close quarters with one, but I've been on

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<v Speaker 13>an isolated hike trail of a mountain with one before,

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<v Speaker 13>and I was like, steer clear of that because they

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<v Speaker 13>can get they can't get rowdy at times if you

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 13>get too close. This guy wasn't doing anything wrong. He

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<v Speaker 13>just happened to be at the wrong place at the

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<v Speaker 13>wrong time with a very ornery bison.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, did he get nailed once? Or just that

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<v Speaker 1>one time that's on the video. I watched it once.

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<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't watch it again.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I think it was just the one time.

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<v Speaker 13>And his telling of it is that he told his

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<v Speaker 13>grandson heroically to run one direction and he ran the

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<v Speaker 13>other so that he could hopefully bring the bison toward

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<v Speaker 13>him instead.

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<v Speaker 14>Of his grandson.

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<v Speaker 13>So hold with some selflessness and toughness, and he seems

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<v Speaker 13>to be okay despite a few broken bones.

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<v Speaker 1>Hero Grandpa. I look forward to hearing you and Vic

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<v Speaker 1>go through the specific Now. The next thing I learned

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<v Speaker 1>from your show notes today, I missed that Sir sam

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<v Speaker 1>Neil died the New Zealand at I missed it, entile.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he get any notice at all these Jurassic Park

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<v Speaker 1>Man he did?

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<v Speaker 13>You might have just I don't know, you might have

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<v Speaker 13>just missed it on X But you should go look

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<v Speaker 13>because everybody's paying great tributes in addition to Jurassic Park,

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<v Speaker 13>of course, which is like probably the most well known,

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<v Speaker 13>but that's causing people to bring up the other ones

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<v Speaker 13>as well.

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<v Speaker 14>Event Horizon Hunt for Red October.

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<v Speaker 13>I really liked him in Peaky Blinders, where I love

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<v Speaker 13>Sam Neil, always have, and his character in Peaky Blinders

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<v Speaker 13>is so cold blooded and horrific that I was surprised

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<v Speaker 13>how much I hated him.

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<v Speaker 14>He's a great actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now I've watched Peaky Blinders, every minute of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't remember Sam Neil in it. Who's the character?

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<v Speaker 14>He was the police chief in that first.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, the guy that got nailed in the.

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<v Speaker 7>Phone booth, the corrupt guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, he got taken care of my aunt, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>her name. But Polly and Polly did him. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a spoiler for anyone who hasn't watched Peaky Blinders.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's watch out, guys, watch out.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't do any more spoilers. And then he was

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<v Speaker 1>in Thor. Who'd he play at Thor?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 14>I didn't know he was in Thor, but I like him.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked him, I said, I like him a lot

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<v Speaker 1>as well. All right, you also did the Senate scoreboard,

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.279
<v Speaker 1>and I'm always doing the Senate scoreboard. I was on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox and Friends this morning talking about Michigan, So I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start with the Michigan primary Doctor Abduahl say

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<v Speaker 1>Ed is a go blue guy, right. He want to

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<v Speaker 1>undergrad and he played on the lacrosse team. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>went and got his MD from Columbia, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>went back to Michigan got his PhD from the university's epidemiologists.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some discussion about whether he's actually ever practiced medicine,

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>but he's an epidemiologist with a PHDMD. I'm not going

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to argue credentials. And he is a lefty from the

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:46.320
<v Speaker 1>left of the left. Haley Stevens, though, is the most

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>cringe video I've seen this year. So what's the take

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>from Mary Catherine Hamlan.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I think, Look, I want to be regionally accepting

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 13>and think that maybe the Michigan A she is employed,

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 13>and that clip is less problematic for others than for

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 13>my ear. But there's something about that energy that is

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 13>very odd in that clip that is circulating, and she

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 13>talks like that a lot. The funny thing is, if

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 13>you look back at her twenty eighteen ads when she

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 13>was first elected. She doesn't sound like that. She sounds

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 13>much more subdued. She sounds much more normal now. Is

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<v Speaker 13>this just a one off? Can she adjust?

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 13>But I think look, I think she faces an uphill

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<v Speaker 13>battle here despite showing them a pretty close.

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<v Speaker 14>In some polling. Man, the energy is really with the

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 14>far left, and if you.

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<v Speaker 13>Are not bringing an AAA plus game as an establishment candidate,

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<v Speaker 13>I think you rent into some problems. That being said,

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 13>there are plenty of normal Dems left in Michigan. I think,

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<v Speaker 13>among them black voters who if you look at the

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<v Speaker 13>crosstabs and some of these pollings, I believe it was

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<v Speaker 13>the Detroit News one sixty seven percent backing Stevens versus L.

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 14>Saed versus white affluent liberal.

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<v Speaker 13>Voters, which are of course basically flip flopped and supporting L.

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 13>Saed because they are four socialist candidates, and black voters

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:05.800
<v Speaker 13>are often more conservative and more moderate than liberal affluent voters.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this morning on with Fox and Friends with Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a throwback in the twenty sixteen Bernie Hillary race.

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie beat Hillary in Michigan's primary, but that was in

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<v Speaker 1>March and the kids were in school. I spent three

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>years at ann Arbor, and I know it's an enormous university,

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>enormous university system, and a lot out of state people,

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:27.760
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of in state people. They're in school,

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and they're easy to find and turn out in March.

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>They're not in school on August fourth. Do you think

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that'll play a factor in this.

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<v Speaker 13>I think it matters that the margins. Although I am

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 13>cognizant that far left people are very very good at

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 13>finding votes and curing votes and in chasing votes, and

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:48.320
<v Speaker 13>if some of those happened to be out of state

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 13>University of Michigan students, I bet they can do it

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 13>often because they don't have a lot of time spent

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 13>doing other things. In many cases, we're subsidizing their activism,

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.359
<v Speaker 13>so perhaps they will go finding.

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Those I think Mike Rodgers will beat either of them. Now.

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't, I'd much rather have Hailey Stevens because

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>she is a strong supporter of Israel. A PAK is

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 1>coming in heavy on her side. That devolution it was

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like a bad Hillary campaign. That ad or that clip

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>was as bad as Hillary ever was. When people who

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 1>are not naturally that way try to act that way,

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work right, Catherine, Why don't they learn that

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it will work right?

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<v Speaker 13>You must be yourself and if yourself is a sort

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 13>of measured, kind of boring midwestern gal like you should

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 13>do that.

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 14>That's why she was elected the first time, right.

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 13>Her pitch is sort of Tracy flick Is esque, which

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 13>is like, I get the job done. I might not

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 13>be the most exciting candidate, but I get the job done.

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 14>So she may be trying to invoke.

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 13>Other feelings and it's not working for her out there

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:48.840
<v Speaker 13>on the staff.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm with you. I hope that Hailey Stevens is the.

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<v Speaker 13>Nominee because I'm not in the practice of wishing for

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 13>socialists on the other side of the ballot to make

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 13>things easier, because I fear that it will get too

0:46:57.800 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 13>close for comfort.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, we learned that with about let's talk about Maine.

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Graham Platner's gone, and almost certainly it's going to be

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Troy Jackson. So I had breakfast for the couple of

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:14.320
<v Speaker 1>lean Democrat to Democrat people this week, and they're really

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>bummed out. They wanted Nadiv Shaw or Navid Shaw, they

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:22.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted anybody but Troy Jackson because apparently a stick about

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 1>her has more personality than Troy Jackson. I myself don't

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>care because I think Susan Collins, like Mike Rogers, she's

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 1>just going to win. But boy, they can make it

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 1>easier for if they nominate Troy Jackson, who is the prague?

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:35.839
<v Speaker 1>What did you say about it?

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<v Speaker 14>Here's what I know about Troy Jackson, and it's not

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 14>all that much.

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 13>I've read up a little bit on him, but I

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 13>saw his I saw an appearance on MS now, and

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 13>you got to understand that on any platform, even MS now,

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 13>this is the appearance you're going to be asked, what

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 13>is the reason that did you continued to back.

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 14>This guy after the Nazi tattoo? What's the reason you

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 14>continued to back him after.

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 13>The allegations from Wendesay Fifield who's a friend of mine,

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 13>on domestic abuse? And then the last straw, of course,

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 13>was Jenny Rescott in Politico why didn't you drop him earlier?

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.239
<v Speaker 14>And he didn't have an answer for it. And I

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 14>just think when you're going on TV as.

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 13>A real candidate who's supposed to be ready for prime time,

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.280
<v Speaker 13>please game out the things you're going to be asked.

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 14>And if you're not gaming out the most simple of those.

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 14>You have a problem already.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you also think it? Well? People who know

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>how the Senate works? Could they possibly vote Susan Collins

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 1>out when chiefs the chair of the appropriations pit. Wouldn't

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that be the dumbest thing ever for Maine to do.

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<v Speaker 14>I think a lot of people in main understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's very good, followed Mallory Catherine MK hammer listened

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>to the Getting Hammered podcast that Mary Catherine hosts along

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 1>with Dick Mattison. Will come right back America. You've heard

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 1>me talk off and on about the tax credit provisions

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that were included in the One Big, Beautiful Bill, the

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Working Family's Tax Cut, authored by Ted Cruz. Some states

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 1>have already opted into the program, but for an update.

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Norton Rainey joins us and is the CEO of the

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>A Scholarships Program. Longtime friend of the program. Norton, good

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to see you again. Can you start for the benefit

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:10.280
<v Speaker 1>of the Steelers fans by explaining what the law does

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:14.680
<v Speaker 1>and how it operates for families with children who are

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>not in public schools.

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<v Speaker 9>You It's wonderful to see you as always. Thank you

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 9>so much for your leadership in America and supporting what

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 9>we think is arguably the most important initiative this country

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 9>has seen for decades, and it's putting children and parents

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:34.439
<v Speaker 9>first in America. The Education Freedom Tax Credit for those

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 9>who don't know was included in the Big Beautiful Bill

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 9>in twenty twenty seven, and what it does, beginning in

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 9>twenty twenty seven, it enables every parent in America to

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 9>put their child in the education environment that's right for them,

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:52.799
<v Speaker 9>whether it be a public school, a homeschool, or a

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 9>environment that is a micro school. Parents have the power

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 9>to do it's right for them. So, if you're a

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:01.239
<v Speaker 9>person listening and you pay tax as an America, you

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 9>can give up to seventeen hundred per year and claim

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 9>a dollar for dollar federal tax credit beginning in January

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.919
<v Speaker 9>twenty twenty seven, and you basically have a choice give

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 9>that money to the government or give that money to

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 9>a program like a scholarships that can help up parents

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 9>and children fulfill their dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's get into the nitty gritty. Norton Rady and

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>as the CEO of a scholarship, sho guard keeping track

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of which states have opted in. So if a parent's

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:30.720
<v Speaker 1>got a kid in a parochial school, or a Jewish

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:34.960
<v Speaker 1>day school or just a homeschooling environment. How does it work,

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<v Speaker 1>What does their state have to do? How do they

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 1>get credit? Can they pay their own kids tuition?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, the law states that states must opt in, and

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:47.360
<v Speaker 9>that happens by a governor saint either yes or no

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:50.719
<v Speaker 9>to the federal credit program and enabling parents in their

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 9>state to participate. To date, thirty one states have either

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 9>opted in or expressed.

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<v Speaker 7>An interest in opting in.

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<v Speaker 9>I want to point out that three of those states, Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 9>New York, and Colorado, are Democratic states and Governor Jared

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:07.919
<v Speaker 9>pouls in the state of Colorado was the first Democrat

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 9>to really break rank and say that we believe in

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 9>education in the state of Colorado, and so Colorado will

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:17.320
<v Speaker 9>lead the charge as a blue state. That will enable

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 9>taxpayers to give and that means that children in the

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 9>state of Colorado will benefit. For the thirty one states

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 9>who have currently opted in, that is a game changer

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 9>for them. That means once again that they have access

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:33.799
<v Speaker 9>to a great education that will unlock incredible potential.

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:35.959
<v Speaker 7>For the states who've not opted in.

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<v Speaker 9>We are encouraging governors right now to opt in. So

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 9>that your taxpayers can give and ensure that money stays

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:43.320
<v Speaker 9>within your state.

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>So when a taxpayer they have to write the seventeen

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:51.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars check, for example, to ACE, it's a dollar

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>for dollar credit off of their federal tax that they

0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>have to pay ten thousand in taxes. All of a sudden,

0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 1>they're paying eight three hundred dollars in taxes because they've

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 1>given seventeen hundred dollars to A scholarships. But do the

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 1>parents do they control the money once they give it

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 1>away or is it up to ACE to control the money.

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 1>And is there any any ability of the parent to say,

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I want that to scholarship my child.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, a couple things that parents can do.

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 9>They can give the money to a program like ACE Scholarships,

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 9>and we can direct that money to their school. They

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:28.120
<v Speaker 9>can't direct their own donation to their child. However, most

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 9>parents in America will qualify. The provision actually allows most

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 9>middle income families who probably make under four hundred thousand

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:39.640
<v Speaker 9>dollars per year to qualify. That's a lot of money.

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 9>That's most Americans right now that are making either four hundred.

0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:44.280
<v Speaker 7>Thousand dollars or less.

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.920
<v Speaker 9>To be specific, it's three hundred percent of your meeting

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:51.239
<v Speaker 9>income in the district that you live in. So this

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 9>is really a win for almost every family in America.

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:56.720
<v Speaker 7>But what I would say to people, even.

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<v Speaker 9>Though you can't direct the money to your child, is

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.319
<v Speaker 9>give them money to a program like a scholarships, and

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:04.640
<v Speaker 9>we will make sure that money is going to your

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 9>school or to home school, or if you're in a

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.839
<v Speaker 9>public school, that you have the ability to use that

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 9>money for education programs that are above and beyond what's

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:17.760
<v Speaker 9>paid for by taxpayers in your public school.

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 7>I think that's really important as well.

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<v Speaker 9>There are people, including union members, who are saying right

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 9>now this is anti public schools and they are opposing

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 9>this program. What they're doing is they're opposing children in

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 9>public schools because this bill gives them an opportunity to

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 9>use this money so their education is enhanced. So our

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 9>directive right now to Americans is give generously, take advantage

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 9>of your dollar for a dollar seventeen hundred dollars credit,

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:48.400
<v Speaker 9>and you will transform America so that we continue being

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 9>the greatest country on the planet.

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 1>So let's just put aside having children or not. If

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you're a tax payer and you're paying federal taxes, in

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.800
<v Speaker 1>excessive seventeen hundred dollars. It makes sense to give it

0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to ACE or somebody like ACE, because then you will

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:06.399
<v Speaker 1>pay nothing in federal taxes. You're seventeen hundred dollars dollars

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.239
<v Speaker 1>per dollar credit, you'll get the seventeen hundred, but there

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:13.239
<v Speaker 1>is no direct connection between the parent and the child.

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you think some of these organizations will in fact

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 1>take cognizance of where the check is coming from and

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:22.320
<v Speaker 1>give it into that school district or that school.

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:27.800
<v Speaker 9>Well, we certainly already ase scholarships. That's a very important

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:30.239
<v Speaker 9>thing for us. We're partnering with our private schools, we're

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:33.960
<v Speaker 9>partnering with public schools, and we're setting up website portals

0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 9>for these entities and so the money that they're raising,

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:40.360
<v Speaker 9>we're administering the program for them. So as a scholarship

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 9>granting organization that has operations in all fifty states right now,

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:49.359
<v Speaker 9>we're making this very simple for schools in organizations who

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 9>want to raise money and ensure that that money stays

0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 9>within their entity. We've invested over ten million in technology.

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 9>We have technology that makes the seamless for the schools

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:03.719
<v Speaker 9>or our partner are donors and the children who will benefit. So,

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:06.360
<v Speaker 9>to answer your question, we have the ability to ensure

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:08.279
<v Speaker 9>the money goes where they want this money to go.

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 9>The only thing they can't do is directed to their child. However,

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 9>if they're raising a lot of money within their school,

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 9>that means their child likely will benefit.

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 1>So every private school, pro Kail, Jewish state school, Evangelical,

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:26.520
<v Speaker 1>just a private school, private day school, they ought to

0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 1>be enrolled in this program if they're in the right state.

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Is it just the governor's decision Norton raining, or does

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the legislature have to back them up?

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.360
<v Speaker 9>It is only the governor at the law states that

0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:41.400
<v Speaker 9>the governor must opt in or opt out, and so

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 9>the governor has the discretion to make a decision whether

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 9>they participate in this program. And again, thirty one states

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 9>to date have opted in. That's a win for children

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 9>and a win for America. But we need all governors

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 9>in America to be in this program so that children

0:55:58.200 --> 0:55:59.360
<v Speaker 9>in their states benefit.

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 7>If they don't opt.

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:04.840
<v Speaker 9>In, we can still collect money from taxpayers. Sadly, we

0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:07.279
<v Speaker 9>just direct that money to other states we have opted in.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Norton, good to see you a scholarships what's the website?

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Quickly Norton.

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<v Speaker 9>There to Education Freedom tax Credit dot org and sign up.

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 7>And we'll make sure we keep you posted. For a

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 7>January twenty twenty seven you can take advantage of this

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:24.160
<v Speaker 7>amazing program.

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Thank your Education Freedom tax Credit dot org. Education Freedom

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:32.279
<v Speaker 1>tax Credit dot org Norton, or any of a scholarships.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining the kidnem the post we'll check in again.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go anywhere American too to it