1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Hey friend, Happy New Year. Heather Creekmoar here. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're listening to the Compared to You podcast today. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: Today I have one of my absolute favorite guests, a 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: joining me to talk about the new year thoughts and 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: resolutions you may have about getting healthier this year, and 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: why so many of those thoughts are probably good and 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: rooted in a good place. But how we can make 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: sure as Christian women that we're truly pursuing what it 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: is we're called to pursue. An Amy is an eating 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: disorder expert. She's a dietitian. She got a master's degree 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: and this stuff. She's a licensed dietitian. She's been working 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: with women for decades around food and body issues. And 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: she's so insightful, and she's so kind, and she's so gentle, 14 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: and you're just going to love what she has to 15 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: say today. This is new staff, friend, We're in a 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: new era. We are, well, it's not new. It's kind 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: of like the nineteen nineties have come back and everyone's 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: shrinking around us. So what do we do? How can 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: we think about this rightly? How can we pursue our 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: health goals without being so distracted by those around us 21 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: who simply aren't eating. O. Friend, you're gonna love what's ahead. 22 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here for it. Here forty Day Journey 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: starts January twentieth. There are still spots available, but it's 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: filling quickly, so go to improvebody image dot com look 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: for the forty Day Journey tab and you can join 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: us on our next forty day journey. Also, I have 27 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: a free gift for you this year. It's a late 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: Christmas present of sorts, but it's a mini course called 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Obsessed Too Blessed. If you're tired of being obsessed over 30 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: body image stuff, go to improvebody image dot com backslash 31 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Obsessed hyphen too hyphen Blessed and you can find that 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: mini course. Sign up, download it for free, and get 33 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: started on your journey to Boudy image freedom. Now let's 34 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: get to today's episode. Amy Carlson, Welcome to the Compared 35 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: TOI podcast again again. 36 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: Oh Heather, I'm so happy to be here as always. 37 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Okay, what I just realized, though, is you were only 38 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: on the show one time last year, and that is 39 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: just inexcusable. So apologies for that, and I know the 40 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: audience is like, yes, yes, Hello, that was wrong. You 41 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: needed to have Amy on more last year. So sorry 42 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: that that was a fail in my part. 43 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: So I'm so excited to be back. I'm so excited back. Actually, 44 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: it's such a pleasure when I get to come on here. 45 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: So actually, thank you for inviting me. 46 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I am just excited is January, and I'm 47 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: excited that maybe we can have a hope filled conversation. 48 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: I like that for the woman who's like, Okay, well 49 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: there's actually I don't want to just limit it to 50 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: one woman because there's you know, we've got lots of 51 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: different listeners, right, but I know that there's probably some 52 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: women out there like me who always every year took 53 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: this opportunity to jot down some goals. Right, here's what 54 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: I want from twenty twenty six and for me every year. Yeah, 55 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: and I would I would love to say that my 56 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: first goal was like spiritual growth, and number two was 57 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: like loving people better, and then number seven was lose weight. 58 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: But that's not actually the way the goal list read. 59 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: It was number one was lose in certain number of 60 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: pounds here, and it became my purpose for the year. 61 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: And I I've grown in my journey where I don't 62 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: do that anymore, right, But I have a feeling. So 63 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: back to these categories of women, right, a feeling. There's 64 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: women listening who still did that, who did that a 65 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and are like, yep, got it, check, 66 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: And then there might be other women who are like 67 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: I stopped doing that, right, Like I've I've kind of grown, 68 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: I've developed more freedom. But now I spend five minutes 69 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: on social media and everyone I know is taking the shots, 70 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: they're own gelope ones, They're shrinking, And now I'm feeling like, 71 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe that should be my goal 72 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: for the year. Otherwise I'm gonna be the one who's 73 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: bigger than everyone else. I don't want to do that. Amy, 74 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: give us, give us some hope, give us some perspective, 75 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: like ground us, ground us where we need to be 76 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: grounded as we start off this year. 77 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: I love that sentence that you started with that we 78 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: would have a hope filled conversation, and that actually is 79 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: exactly what we intend to do, is for people to 80 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: feel hopeful and just in that what you just those 81 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: few sentences, you just like we could unpack fifty two 82 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: things because a few things one I think it's really 83 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: natural at the beginning of a new year. It often 84 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: happens for women at the beginning of the school year 85 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: as well. We just sort of have that natural sort 86 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: of Okay, it's the beginning of something, So beginning of 87 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: the school year or beginning of the calendar year. I 88 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: think it's really natural to reevaluate, and I think it's 89 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: really exciting. As believers, we would maybe even use that 90 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: language of examine where we would just let the Lord 91 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: search our hearts and know us and really reflect on 92 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five and say, God, what are areas of 93 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: growth and what are areas that I had anticipate I 94 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: hated growing in or really really thought last January that 95 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 2: I was going to really dive into and wow, didn't 96 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: even touch them, you know, didn't even go there. And 97 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: I think about that verse, you know, without vision, that 98 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: people perish. And so I think what is exciting is 99 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: I think this is a really natural, beautiful thing, and 100 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: especially for women who can be very project and organized 101 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: and right, and it can be very helpful in community 102 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: when you think about a small group or friendships that 103 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: are just spiritual friendships, and I think the risk what 104 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: I hear you saying and what I for sure am 105 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: seeing in my office, and it was certainly. I mean 106 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: if you looked back at calendars. I know we've giggled 107 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: about this before, but my calendars would have this like 108 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 2: I would have a big circle, you know, eight weeks 109 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: from now and then you know, be exing it off 110 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: every day, the old like Hallmark calendars that once again 111 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: maybe kittens up and you're just like, wow, I didn't 112 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: know I liked kittens and until they came on my calendar. 113 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: So I think I think the risk is even for 114 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 2: women who are walking in ever increasing freedom that right 115 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: now you said it, and just a couple of seconds ago, 116 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: was am I getting left behind? I thought we were. 117 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: I thought we were all in this together. I thought 118 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: we had decided collectively as women that we were gonna 119 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: walk in freedom and we were going to choose this thing. 120 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, oh, oh, 121 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: I think I'm getting left behind. This is this is 122 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: a lot of anxiety. I'm getting left behind in my weight? 123 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: Am I Am I doing something wrong? I get that 124 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 2: language a lot in my office. Am I doing something wrong? 125 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: I must be doing something wrong? And so what a 126 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: great conversation for you and I have and I I 127 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: have this story that I you know, I always come 128 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: with my stories to your to your podcast. But I 129 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: was in a public restroom not so long ago, and 130 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: I was washing my hands and these two women ran 131 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: into each other in the bathroom. I didn't know them, 132 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: and the younger woman said, oh, my word, you look 133 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: so good. And the other woman opened her mouth and 134 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: she I could tell she was older, and she said, oh, thanks, honey. 135 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: Thinks she said, I'm just three pounds from my high 136 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: school weight of one hundred and eighteen pounds, and so 137 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: I have three pounds to go. And I, I mean, 138 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: you could imagine what I wanted to do. I wanted 139 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: to have an intervention, but instead I just briefly turned 140 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: around and I could see she was maybe in her seventies. 141 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: She was maybe in her seventies, and my heart was broken. 142 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: I walked away. I actually got teary eyed because I thought, 143 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: oh Lord Jesus, please let me not be in my seventies, right, 144 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: and let the women that you and I get to 145 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: talk to not be in our seventies and managing, micromanaging. 146 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: Three months, and first of all, she's held on to 147 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: a weight from high school? How many years ago was that? 148 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 2: So all I could see was this video montage of 149 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: all the experiences of her life that she had missed. 150 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: And so part of this hopeful conversation is not what 151 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: am I going to do to get this thing? It's 152 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: what am I going to miss if I choose that? Right? 153 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: So even if if we if you just sat right 154 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: now with your journal and you thought, Okay, I'm super 155 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: tempted to create a whole project out of my weight 156 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, or I'm going to start this 157 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: thing and you know, oh it's at tempting. I'm not 158 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: going to tell anybody because everyone knows I'm trying to 159 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: do this differently, right, But what if you just sat 160 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: in journal and just ask the question, what am I 161 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: going to miss if I invest my time in that? 162 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: What parts of my life will suffer if this becomes 163 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: the priority, and just sit with that for a second. 164 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: Let's linger and ask those questions and even do it 165 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: in collaboration. I'm there's no question you have these amazing 166 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: podcast listeners that come back time and time again, and 167 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: many of them probably have certain maybe even know each other, 168 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: and they could ask those questions together, you know, yeah. 169 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, you got me thinking, and now you're waiting 170 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: for another question, Like, I don't know, I'm still chewing 171 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: on that. We're lingering. 172 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: We're lingering, I mean, and the reality is, I mean, 173 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: you know, I get I get a little bit in 174 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: my in my spirit. I get a little right, I 175 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: get a little in my spirit. And I was in 176 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: session this week. I asked a client if I had 177 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: permission to share this. I said, mmm, i'llmost share that 178 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: this week, I said. 179 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: She said, oh, please, jare it for sure? 180 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: But we've been working together for a couple of years, 181 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: and again, coming out of the die culture, probably twenty years, 182 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: I think, was really really deeply embedded in the diet culture, 183 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: and just she's coming on this calendar year of just 184 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: unbelievable letting go and sanctification and letting go of all 185 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: these things and being so deliberate about this I'm going 186 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: to call it recovery process of letting go of any 187 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: social media, letting go of even some relationships that were 188 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: solely built around dieting and those right, and being so 189 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: intentional on letting the Lord do that work in her life. 190 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: So we were actually talking about this new position she 191 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: had taken at her church, which she never in a 192 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: million years would have thought she would have been worked 193 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: at a church, and all these different things, and I 194 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: just stopped and I looked at it, and I said, 195 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: can you imagine this basketful of fruit that would not 196 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: be here if your time had been solely invested in 197 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: what it had been invested for the last twenty years, 198 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: which was perfect eating the next diet. And by the way, 199 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: in those twenty years, she never reached that whatever that 200 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 2: magic goal it was in twenty years, She's never even 201 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: she never reached it. It was always this you know, 202 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: looney Tune cartoon mirage and the desert that she was chasing. 203 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: And she and I both got teary eyed, and she 204 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: just said, oh my word. And so I said, I 205 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: just see this tree with all of this fruit, And 206 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: I said, and I have this visual of you pouring 207 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: into this one tiny section of your garden for twenty years, 208 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 2: and it just it just never grew. It just never grew. 209 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: And when you when you said okay, I'm done, I'm done, 210 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: and you let the Lord do all this other stuff, 211 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: I said, it's all growing. You have this flourishing, beautiful 212 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: garden that's bearing fruit. And she and I just looked 213 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: at each other. She goes, I just she said, I 214 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: can see it. This this fruit was just stunted. There 215 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: was no like, there was no effort, no prayer, no 216 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: time and attention to these other things. I mean, her 217 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: life is so full, the marriage, her relationship with her children. Again, 218 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: this thing's giving some things that had happened to both 219 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 2: of her children pull her aside and said, Mom, we 220 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: want to affirm the work that you've done. You're not 221 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: the same person as you were when you're growing up. 222 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: And she just was teary eyed, and they just said 223 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: we see it. We see and we want it and 224 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: we write and it's like, why would we sacrifice that right? 225 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: Why would we? And we do right, We over year 226 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: after year year away. 227 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: Well, because the liar is very good at telling us 228 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: that it's not. Your life is not going to become 229 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: more small if you try to chase being small, which 230 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: is exactly what it will do. But I think his 231 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: narrative is your life is going to start tours or 232 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: to fly open. Amazing wonderful things are going to happen 233 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: if you could just spend just a little bit of 234 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: time you know, a couple of weeks, a couple of 235 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: months working on getting to be small, then whoa, the 236 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: floodgates of blessings are going to come pouring over you. 237 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: And we believe it, right, or or we believe it 238 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: for like eight weeks and they were like, oh, it's 239 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: not working. And instead of thinking it's not working because 240 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: this isn't actually the path I'm supposed to be on, 241 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: it's not working because I'm doing something wrong or I'm 242 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: just not good at this, or like it becomes a 243 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: self defeating mentality. Yes, right, but I think, like you know, 244 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: to your client's story, it's like, whoa, it's so true. 245 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: We we have to see that a life lived for 246 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: weighing my high school weight, right, a very small life. 247 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: I like that. 248 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: Language life, right, I like that language. Actually I think 249 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: that actually it's really important language. What you just used 250 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: this idea that the enemy is always the enemy, right, 251 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: and he was good, it's actually really good at when. Yes, 252 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: and that mirage and the lie that my life will 253 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: begin when in fact, I would again journal prompt, Hello, 254 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: just writing your journal, ladies, women, men, if you're listening, 255 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: writing your journal. My life will begin when? Because that 256 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: I just told you she never reached that weight, right, 257 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: like never, never, not the one that she really was. 258 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: She kept losing weight and all those things. But my 259 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: life and by the way, she's incredible. She's just incredible. 260 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: And to see I when she comes on, we are 261 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: virtual and when she comes on, I'm like, you're radiant. 262 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: You're just absolutely radiant. She is. She's just absolutely radiant. 263 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: And I like that language of the mirage or the lie. 264 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: The expectation is my life will begin or open up. 265 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: And again I'm going to clarify, which I always do. 266 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: This isn't to say that people can't want to lose weight. 267 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: There's nothing in anything that I am ever saying that. 268 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: If you're like, you know what my body feels, you 269 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: know whatever, And again that can be a whole nother 270 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: podcast that we talk about. So it isn't that I'm 271 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: bad for wanting to lose weight or I'm less spiritual 272 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: because I want to lose weight. No, absolutely not one 273 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: of the things. Though that is happening, and I just 274 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: these conversations are in my office again this week. Is 275 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: that that is the primary conversation that's happening in church 276 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: around tables. Right What am I restricting. They wouldn't use 277 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: that language, right, but what diet am I falling? But 278 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: what am I restricting? And also what am I eating? 279 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: I had a client command and she goes so sick 280 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: of people talking about what they're eating, or so sick 281 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: of them saying, Oh, I just need to lose a 282 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: few more bounds, you know, Oh I'm so frustrated I 283 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: And she said, why is that the most important thing? 284 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: That that is true about us? And so having goals 285 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: around our health just in general or wanting to you know, 286 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: oh I haven't. I had a label tear this year 287 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: and also had a meniscus here, So just thumbs up 288 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: for all that. Right, So this last year and a half, I, 289 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: you know, went in the MRIs on both things separately. 290 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: Exciting and right. I go to the krupt the double 291 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: doc who's got the whatever, and he's like, Okay, we 292 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: can send you here and you can potentially get surgery 293 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: for both of these. These are separate, separate conversations, but 294 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: neither one is a must for surgery. So but you 295 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: can do that if you want. And this is how 296 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: that looks, and this is how it looks if we 297 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: do pretty aggressive PT. Well, my goal was to repair 298 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: and to recover from a label tear and a tormentiscus. 299 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: I'm not ignoring that health goal. That's not I'm not 300 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: vain because I would like to use my shoulder and 301 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 2: guess what I can't. Actually, I could not let this. 302 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: I couldn't get my arm backed this way. And now 303 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: I can and I could even put it behind. 304 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: Yay, you're very excited. 305 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: Goal accomplished. Goal accomplished. And so it is not weird 306 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: that we have goals or expectations around our body or 307 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: even around our eating. You know, right now, fibers coming 308 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: into the spotlight. Which my husband is so sweet, he's 309 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: he said, I'm sure you know this already, but I 310 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: read a gool so sweet he said that more than protein, 311 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 2: they're saying. 312 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: Fiber, fibers back. 313 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: I think it's so sweet when he when he gives 314 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: me nutrition information. You know what, honey, it's true, And 315 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: I said, and I said, one of the things that 316 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: happens is the poor carb manufacturers. They can't get they 317 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: can't get carbs to come back. But I said, but 318 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: fiber is a different word, right, and that's gonna sell, right, 319 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 2: it's gonna sell. So I said, so and he goes, 320 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: oh really, I said, yeah, those poor you know, people 321 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: who manufacture carbs are like for the lovat can the 322 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: grains come back? And I said, so fiber is another 323 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: way to say, and he goes, oh interesting, I said, 324 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: not that we don't need fiber. I said, but now 325 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: the fiber is going to take this glorified rule, you know, 326 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: And we can have that goal. We can say, you 327 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: know what, I don't need a darn piece of fruit. 328 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: I'd love to do that. I'd love to or I'd 329 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: like to eat more seasonally, you know, I'd love to 330 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: maybe reduce the amount of travel time my food has 331 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: to take. Great, let's eat seasonally. I'd like to make 332 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: new recipes. I'm always in sessions we talk about meal 333 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: planning because it's so helpful for our mind space when 334 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: we have an idea what we're going to cook in 335 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: the evening. That's not disorder, that's not weird. 336 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: Mate. 337 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: So these are all lovely things. They don't I have 338 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: to be the number one thing that we're talking about 339 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 2: in every circle hoops. And then they also don't have 340 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: to be right the most important thing I'm doing. I 341 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: don't have to be the most important thing I'm doing, 342 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: but it doesn't make us less spiritual because we want to. 343 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Be healthy, right right. I love that, and I'm actually 344 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: I was laughing at myself a little bit because I 345 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: vividly remember sitting in It's just like a turning point 346 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: in my life because I was a I don't know 347 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: if there needs to be a term for a food 348 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: sharer or a food diary sharer or something like. I 349 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: was the person who would just casually in conversation with 350 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: my husband or when he was my fiance boyfriend, you know, 351 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: so he would understand that it was okay for me 352 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: to eat whatever I had ordered. You know. I was 353 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: the one who would be like, well, you know, I 354 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: didn't eat anything until noon, and then I just you know, 355 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: had a small salad and said, that's why I had 356 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: to order this, you know, steak and potato and all 357 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: the things. Like I was that person. And I was 358 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: at we were at a hotel and it was the 359 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: hotel breakfast and I was sitting like they were like 360 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: cocktail like high tables, and I was sitting kind of 361 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: pretty close to the person beside me, and I heard 362 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: her rattle off to her boyfriend husband everything she'd eat 363 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: me yesterday. Wow, and it just it it really got me. 364 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: I was like, that is the craziest conference over ear 365 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: Like he looked like he couldn't have been more bored. 366 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: He could have cared less what she had to eat. 367 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 2: All they like, I don't even know what you're saying, girl, 368 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: And so that was. 369 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: A turning point for me. I was like, Wow, I 370 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: need to stop doing that. That's kind of ridiculous. And 371 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: of course, like I was doing it to make sure 372 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: that he knew it was okay for me to eat 373 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: because I hadn't eaten too much or all those things. 374 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: In anyway, I'm kind of taking us off on a 375 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: tangent here from where we're going. 376 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: But it kind of makes me want to go back 377 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: and hug that all honestly, right, of course worse I 378 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: mean again, if you and I could go back and 379 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: dig up those old right food journals and food over 380 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: and over and over and the evaluation, the over evaluation, right, 381 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the over evaluation of of of whatever, and 382 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: again these I know we've had this conversation on here before. 383 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: I just think it's funny because I'm a little older 384 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: than you. But when we were in that era, right, 385 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: fat was the demon, right, I mean, when you think 386 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: about potato chips that had lestra alestra major diarrhea. Right, 387 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: oh wow, right, and you think that sounds insane. I 388 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: mean it sounds now sounds And of course my young 389 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: sweet clients, they're like, what are you talking about? You know, 390 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 2: give me an avocado, give me some nuts. You know, 391 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: they're they're they're over, They're just like, what is that even? 392 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: But I use it so often to go if that 393 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: sounds insane today. And that was research quote unquote right, 394 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: the topic, preology, just science, everything. Okay, so let's I'm like, 395 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 2: let's think about it. Let's think about it. It's always 396 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: comes back to moderation. In fact, I said this to 397 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: somebody this week. I said, maybe it was my husband, 398 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: and my husband right that it actually nutrition actually doesn't change. 399 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: The cultural rules change. So how it's been for fifty years, 400 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 2: how it's been for one hundred years, how it's been 401 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: for great whole food variety? Right, just a lot of 402 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: different I mean, and again that's not we're not talking 403 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: about perfect eating. But the overall kind of science crux 404 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: is the same, it's the same, and so but the 405 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: food rules change and the cultural biases change and food 406 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: industry and what it's pushing and what it's what's what's 407 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: being magnified, right, changes, And so it's like, wait, if 408 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: I can recognize it's not like, I mean that was 409 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: all food industry driven, the fat, the O fat, I 410 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: mean that was all So it's like. 411 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: The low carb I did an episode I might have 412 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: even been last year on. There's a book called low 413 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: Carb Fraud, but it exposes how it wasn't a doctor 414 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: or a scientist that actually perpetuated the low crop. It 415 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: was a guy who wrote a book. He was a journalist, 416 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: and he took a study that no one else interpreted 417 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: the same way. He interpreted the study in a particular 418 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: way to make his point in a book. And now 419 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: your doctor will prescribe that you be low carb based 420 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: on the work of a journalist. 421 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: On a journalist, Right, That's that's exactly right. And and honestly, 422 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: what's interesting too is there's so much siloed research and 423 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: that people are filling their mind with. Oh and again 424 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: there's no judgment here. I can understand people who who 425 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: are having write their symptoms and different things and they're 426 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: trying to figure stuff out, But there is so much. 427 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 2: I'm going to call it pseudo research with experts that 428 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: are and there are a lot of them kind of 429 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: saying the same thing, so that you start to go, well, 430 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: this must be accurate, this must be true, and it's 431 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: unsustainable actually, so that so many clients come in so 432 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: burnt out, so exhausted, and so defeated because they feel like, 433 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: if I cared about my health, I should be able 434 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: to do this thing, if I really cared about my health, 435 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: But I can't, and I don't know why. I'm such 436 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: a you know, and it's like, well, first of all, 437 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: it's unsustainable, it's it's and it's unrealistic, and it's unhelpful. 438 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: And what looks more moderate and more just like yeah, 439 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: this is this is totally living. And again going back 440 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: to the woman that was three pounds away from high 441 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: school weight, which actually just makes me just want to cry. 442 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: It's like, how much life did she miss? And and 443 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: is she more healthy? By golly, she's in her seventies. 444 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: Well done, great, well done, you're there, you're there. 445 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well what did it cost? 446 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 2: What did it cost? Yeah? 447 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: And is food supposed to be this hard? Yeah? I 448 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: mean I think that's that's you know, that's really a 449 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: question that you have to wrestle with because it does 450 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: feel like growing up in this culture, it feels like 451 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: food is supposed to be hard, and food is supposed 452 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: to be something that, especially if you're a woman, you 453 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time trying to figure out and 454 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: optimizing and you know, optimizing, and so it's like, whoa 455 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: was it supposed to be this hard? Like is this like, yes, 456 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: it's actually supposed to be as big a part of 457 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: my life. Yes, I've made it. 458 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 2: And it's really really driven by consumerism. You know, back 459 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: in our day. Excuse on our day, you know, you 460 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: would buy a book and you'd read the book and 461 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 2: then maybe there might even be a book club about it, right, 462 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: and maybe there were some products, but it was. But 463 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: now you're inundated twenty five seven, and you and I've 464 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: had this conversation again. It's probably a different podcast, but 465 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: a different episode, I should say on here. But you know, 466 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, there was a culture a 467 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: little bit more of I'm going to say, maybe the 468 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: health of every size, and just a lot more body 469 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: acceptance of body neutrality. Well, with the rise of right chats, 470 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: there is now a culture of emaciation. And it starts 471 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: in Hollywood. It's there, it's it's it's you know, influencers 472 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: and and and so. What was once this kind of 473 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: joyful acceptance that was like, oh, I'm so glad we're 474 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: head of this direction. All of a sudden it was 475 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 2: like quick left, We're taking a quick left. I didn't 476 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: know this was possible. I was fine going down this 477 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: road until I knew this was possible. Right, Wow, I 478 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: don't have to be okay with this body. I'm going 479 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 2: to take a quick left. And again, the the there's 480 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: no accusation for I mean, they can be very helpful, 481 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: very useful. And again that's could be another episode. But 482 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm talking about cultural shift of where there is a 483 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: very very thin ideal and it's who's questioning it. We've 484 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 2: kind of asked that question. I have another precious client. Again, 485 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: all of these I've gotten permission to share. But she again, 486 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: different client come out of May many many years of 487 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: eating disorder, severe anorexia, diet culture, all the things. It's 488 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: very involved with their church and homeschool co op. And 489 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: she said, Amy, I I have about one mom friend 490 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: that eats. She's like, I'm there packing. When I pack 491 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: my kids a lunch, you know, I pack my lunch. 492 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: And she said, but these moms aren't eating. And this 493 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: one mom in particular, that's a pastor's wife, and she said, 494 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: I've never seen her eating at one time. And when 495 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: I say, oh, did you not bring your lunch? Oh no, 496 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: you know, and she said, I'm so embarrassed because I'm 497 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: the am I is there something wrong with me that 498 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm eating. That's the culture that we're in that I 499 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: feel weird that I'm eating lunch as an adult. 500 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, because it's back to the high school 501 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: mean girls, like if you're not just drinking a diet 502 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: coke right right, right right, eating food. 503 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: You're eating food right, it's and she just I love 504 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: her little imagery of her taking her you know, sandwich 505 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: out and she's just like, I'm sorry, somebody else eating 506 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: and I it just makes me want to I want 507 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: to erupt because I'm like, guys, this is this is 508 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: not okay. And by the way, again, Anonymous anywhere in 509 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: the country could be this. This Mama's kiddos when they're 510 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 2: when they go to birthday parties, they're just they're eating 511 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: and eating because they're not used to right, having right, 512 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: I'm around food, so there's some evidence that that's actually 513 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: having an impact on children, and so I think that's 514 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: the other thing. Is this whole very very then focus 515 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: but also over over, I like you the word optimization 516 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: that you use, because that's really kind of a buzzword, right, 517 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: and optimize my nutrition. I'm going to optimize my health 518 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: is a very very siloed individualistic and as believers, I'm 519 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: crucified with chrisis, and only who lose chrisis to me? 520 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: The life I live in, this body and now live 521 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: by faith like it is a community effort. And if 522 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: my eating whatever this is impacting my children or spouse 523 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: or right, this is something I have to valuate if 524 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm it's like, if I'm causing it is actually it 525 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: is it is actually worth evaluating as a believer to 526 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: go this is not just impacting me? Who else is 527 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: this impacting? 528 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: Right? 529 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: How do the women feel around me? And I'm not 530 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: talking about just eating, because you know, I don't want 531 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: to make them feel good, But I'm saying this is, 532 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: this is us as women giving each other permission to 533 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: be human. Well, what a wonderful opportunity to. 534 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: Make a basic human need and meat. 535 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: It's like, it's like, I wouldn't expect you to be, 536 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: you know, in Minnesota. Right now it's freezing where I'm from. 537 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm living Houston, originally'veen from Minnesota. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. 538 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: I would be strange to me if you weren't wearing 539 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: a coat. But you're like, I don't need a coat. 540 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't basic human need to be warm, right, No, 541 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm I'm, I'm I can overcome it. I don't have 542 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: to wear a coat and thirty below. It's like, well, 543 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: that's weird. It's equally as weird that you don't need 544 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: to eat, I think, right right, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. 545 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm remembering a homeschool class I taught, and one of 546 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: the kids was giving a presentation on their delicious Thanksgiving dinner. 547 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: And we took questions at the end of every presentation, 548 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: and a boy raised his hand and said, that sounds 549 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: really good. Did your mom meet it with you or 550 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: was she on a diet? No? And the little girl 551 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: giving the presentation was like, yeah, she ate with us. 552 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh wow, like and I mean 553 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: I think kids were little. This was years and years ago. Wow, little, 554 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: but he knew moms don't eat with families sometimes. 555 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: No for sure, no for sure no right, wow, that 556 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: makes me think. I just did an elementary school presentation, 557 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: which I probably won't do again, by the way, not 558 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: my target audience, but I got asked to do it. 559 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: And I had done a presentation for PE coaches and 560 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: health coaches and it was awesome at the beginning of 561 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: the year in August. Well, then this one coach is 562 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: so lovely. She just said, will you come do something 563 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: for a third, fourth, and fifth? Then I said yes, 564 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: in a moment of weakness, I did. So. I had 565 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: to do presentation to third graders, then fourth graders, and 566 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: fifth graders, so one hundred and fifty kids at a 567 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: time in the gym, and I'm like, wow, and this 568 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: is the PE coach right before she said third grade 569 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: is grade, fourth grade and fifth grade's terrible. You know, 570 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: I thought, oh, okay, thanks for letting me know that 571 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: right before. So the fifth graders actually were terrible and loved. 572 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: I was praying on my way there and I was cyc, lord, 573 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: I have we're doing this, and I just was like, 574 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: you know what my goal is that these kids feel seen. 575 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 2: So I before I started, and when people were filing in, 576 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: I made sure I went up and down and made 577 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: eye contact with every kid and said, so glad you're here. 578 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you're here. Thank you for coming. Well, 579 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: we were doing a hunger scale and doing it with fun, 580 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: you know, balls and these big nets and teaching you know, 581 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: hunger and fullness and and this is something you're you're 582 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: born with and naturally good at and what does this 583 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: feel like? And so you know, what does it feel like? 584 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: How do you know when you're hot? Like? Oh? And 585 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: then all they're all telling about it when they're hot, 586 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: and how do you know when you're cold? And I said, 587 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, how do you know when you're hungry? Actually, 588 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: the dieticians, sweet sweet McKenzie young, she was helping me 589 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 2: do it, and she said, how do you guys know 590 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: when you're hungry? And this little girl raised her hand 591 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: just and she said, I don't need to eat when 592 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm hungry. And she said, oh, I actually maybe, I 593 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 2: mean when you're full? Is that what you're feeling? You mean, 594 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: when you're full? And she goes, but how do you 595 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: feel when you're hungry? And she goes, I just ignore it. 596 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: I've learned how to ignore it, and I it's me 597 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: post it note right, like make sure I circle back 598 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: with that. But here the difference between third grade, who 599 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: had all these fun idea you know, they were just 600 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: shouting things out about how do you know you're hungry? 601 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: And oh like tummy and all these things. Fifth grade 602 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: she's like, m I don't, I can, I don't. I 603 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: don't have to eat? And I thought, wow, fifth grade, right, 604 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: and she raised her hand confidently like she's proud of that, 605 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: proud of it. This is just absolutely not like I'm 606 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: going to keep this a secret, but I don't. I 607 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: don't need to eat. That's a really superpower that I 608 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 2: don't need to eat in food. Yeah. 609 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: Great, which then we carry through, right, and then the 610 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: woman who doesn't eat at the birthday party? Yes, wow, 611 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: how can we be like you? Yeah? Yeah, I'll teach 612 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: us your ways Jedi master. Yes, I mean that's really 613 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: what we do. 614 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: They're like the hunger, like how did you juke your hunger? 615 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: Rather than the joy. My brother is flying in as 616 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: we're recording this, and my sister in law, who I adore, 617 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 2: and I'm prepping Cranberry pur pie, which I love to make, 618 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: and the tradition of having that when guests come and 619 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 2: just a fresh, big pie coming out of the oven 620 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 2: with of course you have to have vanilla ice cream 621 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: with that, right, and the joy of that, and what's 622 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 2: missed over and over and over because we would say 623 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: I can't have that. I'm not allowed to have that. 624 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: And so going back to our original right question, if 625 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: I if I make that my mission for the year, 626 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: what am I going to miss out on? What things 627 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 2: am I going to have to sacrifice in order to 628 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: make that my mission? What fruit am I not going 629 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 2: to attend to in my garden because this is the 630 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: only thing I'm pouring into. 631 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: Right. 632 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: I was in church a couple Sundays ago and we're 633 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 2: doing Kingdom Living and Sermon on the Mountain. It was 634 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: out of Matthew seven, and it was not crux of 635 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: his his sermon. But of course, you know how the 636 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: Lord does. He does like a little neon sign. It's like, well, whatever, 637 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: I'm just going to read it out of Matthew seven. 638 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: Starting verse seven, it says, asking it will be given 639 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: to you, seeking you will find knocking. The door will 640 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: be open to you. For everyone who asks receives the 641 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: one who seeks fines, And to the one who knocks, 642 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: the door will be opened. Who among you, if his 643 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: son ask him for bread, will give him a stone, 644 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: Or if he asks for a fish, will give him 645 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: a snake. If you, then, who are evil? So I 646 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 2: think it's kind of funny know how to give good 647 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 2: gifts to your children? How much more will your father 648 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: in heaven give good things to those who ask him? Therefore, 649 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: whatever you want others to do for you, you also do 650 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 2: the same for them. For this is the law and 651 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: the prophets. So I'm listening, I'm reading in the and 652 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: how much more just comes out like a neon sign 653 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: for me. So I'm it's in my church notes, you know, 654 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 2: just highlighted big, and I'm writing it all week. How 655 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 2: much more? How much more? And I'm asking God, what 656 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: do you want me to know about this? So the 657 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: end of the week, I think, but the Lord, go 658 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: go go read, go read it again, like, don't miss 659 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: out the second. 660 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: Half of that. 661 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 2: How much more? That's where I got stuck. How much 662 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: more will your father and heaven give good things to 663 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 2: those who ask him? And so I thought, what are 664 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 2: we not asking him for? And in this context, most 665 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 2: of us are asking for weight, loveless or right, these 666 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 2: these certain things, and he's saying, how much more like 667 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 2: don't the cs Lewis quote right of being satisfied with me? 668 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: You know mud podcasts, the holiday of the scene, Right, 669 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 2: it's like. 670 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: Right, oh much more right? Well, because what I really 671 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: long for, Like I mean just even thinking about weight loss, 672 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, my my body has changed significantly in perimenopause 673 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: and probably recovery from eating disorder too, but yeah, you know, 674 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: my real desire is to be loved, yeah, right, right 675 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: to feel accepted, like I love how you went through 676 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: the class the third fourth fifth graders, to see them 677 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: like I want to be seen, not like seen and 678 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: like I look at me, but like I don't want 679 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: to be overlooked, right yeah, And that is the more 680 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: yeah that I think we're taught comes from weight loss. Yes, 681 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: if I could just be thin, then people are gonna look, 682 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna see me. But I'm afraid what actually then happens? 683 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: Says I'm I get objectivezed more right, They're still not 684 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: seeing us, right like then they're just seeing my body perhaps, 685 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: but but that how much more like we have we 686 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: have these these desires, these deep desires to feel loved 687 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: and known and seen. Yes, and it's just a trick 688 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: that weight loss is gonna make that more happen. 689 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I love that you. I love that you just 690 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: said that. It is it, It is it if I 691 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: if I'm going to teach hunger to end fullness to 692 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: to third, fourth and fifth grader is the Lord says, 693 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: all I'm asking is my eye. That's all. That's all 694 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm asking to do. I don't care if they hear 695 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: anything else. So one hundred and fifty times three kids? Right, 696 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 2: did I get to look in their eyes? And you 697 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 2: just said the more that the mirage is that the 698 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: weight loss will give us them more. And the truth 699 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: is that God is saying it's for you're trying to 700 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 2: control what's uncontrollable. God is already pouring it out into 701 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: we just who will ask. That's what he says, how 702 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 2: much more to those who ask? And so God, I 703 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: would say, if you want a twenty twenty six goal, 704 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: let it be to ask. Let it be to ask God? 705 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 2: What are the things in my life that have felt stunted? 706 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 2: What are the things in my life that I have overlooked? 707 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 2: Because I've been so preoccupied with my life will start 708 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 2: when that's the other journal prompt, right, So what in 709 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: my life, God are you inviting me into? What do 710 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 2: you have? 711 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: Lord? 712 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 2: So this sweet client, the one that the fruit is 713 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 2: blooming and off the tree, and these beautiful fruit, she said, 714 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 2: so much changed for me the first time you prayed 715 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: what do you have? Lord? And she said it just 716 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 2: I'd never prayed that way, she said, I had never, 717 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: And so she said, I began praying that and she 718 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: said it opened up a conversation, not a one way, right, 719 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: And so I just I love this idea of just 720 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: bringing before the Lord, what are your goals for me? 721 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 2: And if we as believers, if Heather and Amy are 722 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 2: sitting together, and we've got our journals on it, we're like, 723 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: as believing women, we would go love the Lord, our 724 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 2: God with all our hearts, soul, mind and strength, and 725 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: love our neighbors ourselves. Let us spend ten minutes and 726 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 2: evaluate my life according to just Lord, examine me and 727 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 2: see what needs to shift in twenty twenty six that 728 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 2: that would begin to explode in me. And then I 729 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: would ask God, God teach me how to do that. 730 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 2: I don't I'm stumped. You know, for most of us, 731 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: it's like I can know these goals, these seem like 732 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: really great goals, and then the Lord's like, oh, I 733 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 2: have so much more. I have so much more. 734 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: Right, right, because those goals are just for that little 735 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: to go back to your other analogy, those goals are 736 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: only for that little, teeny tiny part of your garden 737 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: you've been I don't know, overwatering, killing, overwatering, like I 738 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: am not a gardener, but but that you know, the 739 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: little section that you've beat to death. 740 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 2: Beat to death, beat to death. 741 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and there's this whole big field. 742 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 2: But you know what, wouldn't it be fun if your 743 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 2: listeners just started like commenting back after this and just said, 744 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: I spent time with the Lord and this is my goal, 745 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 2: this is my goal, this is something God gave me, 746 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 2: this is my invitation. Wouldn't that be encouraging for them 747 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 2: to hear what others are hearing from the Lord? What 748 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 2: a cool thing that we would We're not getting left behind, guys. 749 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: We're recipients of God's goodness. He literally I could sit 750 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 2: here and do nothing and just soaken God's love and 751 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 2: his care and his acceptance. And his absolutely mind boggling 752 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 2: love that transforms us from who we are to who 753 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 2: we're becoming. And it isn't because I'm following a plan. 754 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: It's because I'm basking in God's love for me. 755 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: Well, even that left behind language, right, like we all 756 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: like I know what that means, I know how that feels. 757 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: But it's the wrong race. Yeah yeah, everyone's beating me 758 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: in that race. 759 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 2: I'm in the wrong race. Yeah yeah, step aside, guys, right. 760 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: It's yeah, like that's not that's not what it means 761 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: to run the race with insurance, right, although I have 762 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: I have had someone argue that, okay, yeah, but yeah 763 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: that you know, God's kingdom is upside down. Yeah, his 764 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: ways are not our race, his thoughts are not our thoughts. 765 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that's right. 766 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Well, Amy, You've got company Covin. Well, any 767 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: final thoughts as we close up today's episode. 768 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: Well, I think my invitation to all of us, me included, 769 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 2: will be to just sit before the Lord and ask 770 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 2: that question, God, what do you have for twenty twenty six? 771 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: And that I would yield my own agenda, that I 772 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 2: would be excited for the how much more? And that 773 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 2: we would begin to ask and even share some of 774 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: those things with friends or spouse or what is God 775 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 2: inviting me to ask him for? Because wouldn't be wonderful 776 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 2: if we again we started sharing those things and our 777 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 2: testimonies began. This precious woman with the fruit. It's like 778 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 2: what if our baskets were so full? Yeah, And so 779 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 2: that's my encouragement, my exhortation, not only for people listening, 780 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 2: but for you and me too. 781 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I love that. I mean it is. It's 782 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: the opposite of control, right, It's I'm going to just 783 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: do an illustration for the YouTube audience, right, but it's 784 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: like clinging tightly control it to like turning and letting 785 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: my fingers fall open and having a loose grip. And 786 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: in that it's a symbol of trust, like, Okay, I 787 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: actually need you to show up and show me like 788 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: what you have for me, you know, yeah, give this 789 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: to me, provide this for me if this is what 790 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: I need, right versus I'm going to control it. I'm 791 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: going to make it happen. And doing it that way 792 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: grows our faith, right, the open handed way. Then we 793 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 1: grow in faith as we do that, versus we stay sunted. Yeah, 794 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: our grip is tight Amy, thank you so much for 795 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: being on the show today. 796 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: You're so welcome. This was so much fun. 797 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: So it was, and we're not going to make this 798 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 1: the only Amy Carlton episode of twenty twenty six that 799 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: is on my goals list. 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