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Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Aaron Mollan Show. Wherever you are around the world,

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Speaker 1: it is wonderful to.

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Speaker 2: Have your company now.

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Speaker 1: I know, I said over the holiday period we would

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Speaker 1: still have fresh interviews, which we've had, but we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have day to day news commentary or current affairs.

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Speaker 2: Well, I lied, I can't help myself. There is too

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Speaker 2: much happening.

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Speaker 1: So here I am again led, of course, by what

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Speaker 1: is going on on the ground in Iran.

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Speaker 2: Day three. Guys, this is getting serious.

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Speaker 1: The Islamic regime security forces are starting to crack down hard,

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Speaker 1: but the people power is proving too strong. This feels different,

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Speaker 1: It feels bigger, It feels more serious. People around the

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Speaker 1: world are starting to get invested. Not mainstream media, of course,

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Speaker 1: because they couldn't give a tinker's cass. We all know

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Speaker 1: what they're like. If it doesn't suit their agenda or

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Speaker 1: their narrative, they're not going to cover it. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We don't need them. We need your voices.

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Speaker 1: We need to stand up strong alongside the people of

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Speaker 1: Iran to free themselves from this horrific terrorist regime. So

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Speaker 1: many acts of collective bravery, acts of individual bravery on

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Speaker 1: social media in real time.

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Speaker 2: On the ground, this is huge.

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Speaker 1: They're chanting that the Islamic regime are murderers, that they're

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Speaker 1: evil terrorists. They're calling for the return of Rezipolavi, the

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Speaker 1: crown prince. They are desperate for their freedom. And of

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Speaker 1: course there are so many other issues with the economy,

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Speaker 1: with water, with so many other things.

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Speaker 2: But at the.

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Speaker 1: Core of all of that is this group who have

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Speaker 1: forced their way into power. They're not legitimate leaders of

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Speaker 1: this nation, not even a tiny bit. So keep across it,

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Speaker 1: share everything you can. We are on the brink of something.

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Speaker 1: And if you are sitting in a western nation in

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Speaker 1: the US, in the UK, Australia, Europe, thinking oh that's

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Speaker 1: nice for them, but really doesn't impact me, wrong, This

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Speaker 1: evil regime has its dirty little fingers on so much

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Speaker 1: pain that occurs globally, terrorism, evil, They are behind so

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Speaker 1: much of it. If we can get rid of this regime,

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Speaker 1: and when I say we, the people of Iran, hopefully

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Speaker 1: helped by some other you know, really lovely but far

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Speaker 1: removed from any other democratic nation forces, that would be wonderful.

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Speaker 2: It benefits all of us the world will be a

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Speaker 2: safer place.

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Speaker 1: Your children will be safer without this evil regime in place.

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Speaker 1: You can bet your bottom dollar on that. I want

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Speaker 1: to bring you something that Trump said during his press

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Speaker 1: conference with Prime Minister Netan Yahoo of Israel, and it

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Speaker 1: hasn't gotten a lot of publicity, but this is a

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Speaker 1: big deal. I mean, lots of things are a big deal.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about world leaders, global stage, geopolitics.

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Speaker 2: Most things are a big deal.

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Speaker 1: This though, in particular, Trump was asked about the pardon

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Speaker 1: that he's requested for Netan Yahoo in his current corruption trial,

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Speaker 1: which a lot of people say is heavily politicized. Trump

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Speaker 1: thinks that he should be pardoned so he can focus

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Speaker 1: on what is going on at the moment.

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Speaker 2: A reporter asked him about this.

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Speaker 1: Have a listen to what Trump says on three occasions.

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Speaker 1: Israel would not exist now if not for Baby net

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Speaker 1: and Yahoo.

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Speaker 2: Have a listen.

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Speaker 3: No, I think he's going to be in great shape.

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Speaker 3: He's a wartime prime minister at the highest level. He's

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Speaker 3: achieved tremendous success. And I'll say it. You know, if

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Speaker 3: you had eight out of ten prime ministers and his

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Speaker 3: position right now or before, right now, maybe you wouldn't

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Speaker 3: have Israel any longer. Israel would not exist. I'd say

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Speaker 3: two of them would and eight of them would. Those

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Speaker 3: are not good odds. You needed a very special man

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Speaker 3: to really carry through and really help Israel through this

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Speaker 3: horrible Jim. You know, these are major factions, and it

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Speaker 3: started with our negotiation with Iran. I think it probably

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Speaker 3: started with Solomony. That was really where you mentioned that today,

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Speaker 3: which started with Solomony, bad guy doing bad things, hurting

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Speaker 3: But it started right there would probably be the starting point.

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Speaker 3: And then from that point forward. But you have a

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Speaker 3: wartime prime minister at the highest level. There could be

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Speaker 3: other wartime prime ministers, but that lose. He won, and

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Speaker 3: I think the people of Israel appreciated. I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of the people in the world appreciated actually, and

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Speaker 3: because of that victory, we were able to get peace

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Speaker 3: in the Middle East. If you had a different kind

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Speaker 3: you would not have had success and you might not

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Speaker 3: have Israel. And you report for Israel, I know you're

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Speaker 3: very proud of it, and you do a great job,

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Speaker 3: you might not have a job because they might not

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Speaker 3: be an Israel right now if you had a different

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Speaker 3: prime minister. That's a big statement. But to me, it's

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Speaker 3: a very simple statement to make. I'm looking at Pete

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Speaker 3: a strong prime minister, Pete, you might not have Israel today.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll go down in the record books. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I was a big help.

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Speaker 4: He'll be honest.

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Speaker 3: With big, big help, somebody may sit in the room.

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Speaker 3: If you don't have Trump, you needed a proper combination

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Speaker 3: of everything, and if you didn't have that combination, which

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Speaker 3: they had, you would not have an existing Israel right now.

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Speaker 3: And the people of Israel know it. That's why they

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Speaker 3: like me, and that's why they really they actually like him.

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Speaker 3: He's got a little bit of a love hate more

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Speaker 3: the haters have a lot of respect for him, and

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of jealousy about him, a lot of jealousy.

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Speaker 3: Jealousy is a bad word. But I believe you would

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Speaker 3: not have Israel right now. So it's a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly no issues in that relationship at all, despite

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Speaker 1: mainstream media continually reporting on tension and whatever else. Of

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Speaker 1: course they're going to have disagreements. Of course, they're going

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Speaker 1: to come from very different places when it comes to

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Speaker 1: negotiating these things. I meant, now, who's in a very

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Speaker 1: different position and has different priorities to Donald Trump, particularly

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Speaker 1: when it comes to security in the Middle East. His

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Speaker 1: nation is the one that is at the forefront, at

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Speaker 1: the coal face. But clearly a lot of respect for

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Speaker 1: false reports. George Clooney has come out and said he's

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Speaker 1: worried that Barry Weiss. Of course, most of you know

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Speaker 1: be a little more concerned if my wife were working

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Speaker 1: for terrorist organizations. I suspect that might be a better

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Speaker 1: use of your focus and time. Maybe look at that

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Speaker 1: rather than a news network in America. Finally determining that

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Speaker 1: it's woke left lies aren't going to be that commercially

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Speaker 1: savvy moving forward, and that truth telling could be a

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Speaker 1: better option. But hey, that's just me now. Despite all

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, you cannot deny that he is doing more

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Speaker 2: But Rosie O'Donnell has.

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Speaker 1: Determined that he has some significant issues and she would

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Speaker 1: like action taken permanently on those issues, as in to

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Speaker 1: have him removed. She also admits that she can't get

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Speaker 2: Have a look.

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Speaker 5: In the news about you know how he's making crazy

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Speaker 5: posts like someone with temporal frontal lobe dementia and out

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Speaker 5: of control. When are they going to do the twenty

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Speaker 5: five Amendment, that's the question. When are they going to

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Speaker 5: say this is no longer manageable for anyone and he

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Speaker 5: needs to be stopped, So twenty fifth Amendment? Come on, people,

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Speaker 5: come on. Yeah. I wish I could say I don't

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Speaker 5: think about him a lot, but I do, and I

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Speaker 5: know that it's bigger than just tim that he's not

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Speaker 5: smart enough to orchestrate a coup like this, But boy

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Speaker 5: did he participate. They used him and he went along

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Speaker 5: with it because he's a narcissist and he loves the

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Speaker 5: And that's terrifying and scary.

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Speaker 2: Really is.

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Speaker 5: We've got to do something, America, and we got to

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Speaker 5: do it soon before the November elections, because you know

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Speaker 5: that he's going to do anything he can to start

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Speaker 5: a war and then declare no elections because of that war.

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Speaker 5: And he tried in Venezuela and now he's trying in

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Speaker 5: about him. At the height of his fame and adoration

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Speaker 5: with it. He did say thank you to people for

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Speaker 5: probably dreamed of, if not participated in, in his life.

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Speaker 5: Those Epstein files badly redacted. The guys, the nuclear codes.

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Speaker 5: Everyone anyway, trying not to post about him, sometimes I

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Speaker 2: Rosie.

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Speaker 1: It is very difficult to find the words to properly

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Speaker 1: address what you have just said. If someone had recorded

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Speaker 1: it still really embarrassing. She must be so embarrassed by that.

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Speaker 1: But you filmed it yourself, and you uploaded it yourself,

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Speaker 1: even admitting that Trump has a permanent residency in your

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Speaker 1: head or maybe temporary. We should get ice onto that, Rosie,

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Speaker 1: because it is not serving you well.

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Speaker 2: It is really not serving you well.

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Speaker 1: Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albenezi refuses to hold a Royal commission,

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Speaker 1: instead doing a two bit essentially internal review into police

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Speaker 2: Then I don't know what does.

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Speaker 1: And I would say to Anthony Albinezi, who clearly, for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason doesn't want this to occur.

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Speaker 2: You are the leader of our nation.

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Speaker 1: You went to a tribute for again the largest terrorist

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Speaker 2: You were booed.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of reputable, high profile Australians who

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Speaker 1: what occurred. You seem to deny that. If that is

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Speaker 1: PERSPECTI wouldn't you want to conduct a Royal commission that

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Speaker 1: would clear not just you, but your government and all

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Speaker 1: the decisions you've made. If you believe so strongly and

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Speaker 1: staunchly that you've taken every bit of action that you

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Speaker 2: If that is all the case, then you should.

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Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what I believe Romy.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely believe Romy and what she says matters. She deserves

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Speaker 4: There was Mohammed, there was another Mohammed. There was Ahmed,

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Speaker 6: When Romi tells here about what happened there in the apartment,

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Speaker 6: But what about coming and telling this Mohammed, the owner

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Speaker 4: It didn't even occur to me to tell him that

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Speaker 4: You can see it in the eyes. You can see

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Speaker 4: And I realize that I'm going to sleep alone with

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Speaker 6: There in the apartment in the heart of the shoddy

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting there on the bed and suddenly Ibrahim comes

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Speaker 4: He would always ask me, who did you sleep with?

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Speaker 4: Yes, he's a year older than me. We met at

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Speaker 4: Then he bends down to me and says, listen, Hamas

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Speaker 6: only parts.

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Speaker 4: Until you're in that situation, you can't understand what happens

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Speaker 4: to the body. Sometimes fear paralyzes you, and I froze,

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Speaker 4: and I think not much went through my mind in

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Speaker 4: those moments except that I was really scared. I was

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Speaker 4: really disgusted and why why, Like my usual word with everyone,

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Speaker 4: it's just unfair.

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Speaker 6: Unfair.

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Speaker 4: There's this one moment in the bathroom while everything is happening,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like crying like crazy.

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Speaker 6: You're crying while it's happening.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm just crying. That's all I can do. I'm

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Speaker 4: just crying. And he he was living his life like

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Speaker 4: highlight of his life, as if he hit the jackpot.

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Speaker 4: And I really remember this one moment when I'm looking

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Speaker 4: there was this small square window like a picture frame,

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Speaker 4: and I'm looking through the window and I say, wow,

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Speaker 4: the sky is beautiful. The birds are chirping, And this

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Speaker 4: is the situation I'm in right now, like the dissonance

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Speaker 4: between the beautiful, normal, clean life outside and the filth

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Speaker 4: and brutality and disgust happening here in the bathroom. And

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Speaker 4: it's a moment I feel like this in my life,

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Speaker 4: that look outside and what I felt inside, and I

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Speaker 4: think I reached the worst state possible for the third time,

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Speaker 4: like there's nowhere worse to go from here. And when

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Speaker 4: he came out of the bathroom and I followed him

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Speaker 4: out for a second, there was a ringing in my

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Speaker 4: ears and then I couldn't hear anything like in the movies.

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Speaker 4: I'm walking and I feel like the whole world is

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Speaker 4: spinning around me and I'm completely deaf. All the way

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Speaker 4: to the living room, all I could think was Roamy,

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Speaker 4: everyone in Israel thinks you're dead and you're going to

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Speaker 4: be his sex slave for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 4: I get to the living room and I was sitting

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Speaker 4: there on the couch and I'm like in total shock.

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Speaker 4: Tears weren't falling from my eyes. They're gushing like I

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Speaker 4: was full of water on my legs because my tears

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Speaker 4: were flowing. Then he looks at me and says, Roamy

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Speaker 4: tom oh m, meaning is Romy okay or not okay?

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Speaker 4: He looks at me, and in my head it's like

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Speaker 4: a white flash. Why are you even asking me this question?

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Speaker 4: How dare you You've got some nerve asking me that?

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Speaker 4: And I said to myself, Romy, there's a situation, and

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Speaker 4: this is the shittiest situation I've ever been in. But

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Speaker 4: you're in the situation too, you can't afford to give up.

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Speaker 4: You have to pull yourself together, like and this is

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Speaker 4: going through my head while I'm lying there, and he

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Speaker 4: comes closer to me, and he presses a gun to

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Speaker 4: my head and says, if you tell anyone about this,

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Speaker 4: I'll kill you.

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Speaker 6: But ROMY didn't even have a moment to pull herself

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Speaker 6: together after what happened. Another terrorist arrives at the apartment

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Speaker 6: now and takes her on a motorcycle for a terrifying

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Speaker 6: ride through the narrow alleys of the refugee camp, which

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Speaker 6: the IDF tanks are now surrounding.

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Speaker 4: And we arrive at a school, and at that school,

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Speaker 4: a car arrives. He tells me get in the car

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Speaker 4: and put my bag in the car and we start driving.

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Speaker 4: Then the guy in the car turns around and says

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Speaker 4: to me English or Arabic. I told him English. He

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Speaker 4: says to me, Hello, we are your new people, and

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Speaker 4: I'm taking you to a new home. And that's when

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Speaker 4: I realized what happened. All afternoon, I was being exploited

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Speaker 4: because it was his last day and he didn't plan it.

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Speaker 4: Apparently it was his last day, so he managed to

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Speaker 4: do everything he could before I left. Really he had

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Speaker 4: a half hour window of opportunity and he took advantage

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Speaker 4: of it, and after a drive of about fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 4: we suddenly arrived at a building. It was like an

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Speaker 4: abandoned church with scary pictures and everything was broken, and

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Speaker 4: suddenly there was a curtain and they opened the curtain

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Speaker 4: and all I see in front of me is a

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Speaker 4: terrorist with Hamas uniforms, a cafea on his face, and

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Speaker 4: an AK forty seven ready, and around him there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of linen. And I look at the guy and

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Speaker 4: I say to him, now you're going to kill me.

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Speaker 4: It was silence for a moment, and then he says

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Speaker 4: to me, now we go underground.

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Speaker 2: A very difficult episode. I absolutely acknowledge that. But thank you.

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Speaker 1: If you've stayed all the way to the end, she

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Speaker 1: deserves that. We love you all, thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see you over the weekend and then Monday,

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Speaker 1: six am eighty