1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: The State of Minnesota didn't catch this, the FBI didn't 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: catch this, The media certainly didn't catch this, probably on purpose. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about billions of dollars walking out the back 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: door of fake daycares and fake autism centers and more 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: billions of dollars. It was the perfect crime because nobody 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: noticed until this guy decided to get in his car 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: and drive to the addresses meet David Hoak. He didn't 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: just find fraud, he found the whole damn network. And 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: today he's handing us the map. Let's go okay. David 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Hok is the other guy who was not going to 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: be in the spotlight. It was all going to go 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: through Nick Shirley. But he was the guy who actually 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: had the hard copy paperwork, the documents to prove all 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: of this fraud that was going on and to out 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: the so called daycares as not daycares. And they just 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: dropped the video this week about transportation companies that aren't 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: transporting anything. So let me start with how you hook 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: up with Nick Shirley, Because you've been researching this for 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: how long? You said seven years? 20 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: A little over seven years, correct, So how. 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: Do you hook up with him and say, let's go 22 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: and do something about this. 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: So Joe, I had this immense amount of data, and 24 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: the fraud is so big that it was like wrestling 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: a grease hippopotamus. You have to you can't take the 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: whole thing on it once because you'll never get a 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: handle on it. 28 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: Right. 29 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: So I looked at all the various areas of fraud. 30 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: You had autism, feeding our future, all these different things, 31 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: and I wanted to focus on childcare because I felt 32 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: it was a significant portion of the fraud, but also 33 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: because it sort of captures the heartstrings of people who 34 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: are paying two thousand dollars a month for childcare and 35 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: then find out these people aren't paying anything and they're 36 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: getting millions of dollars. So I decided to start with childcare, 37 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: and then it was going to move into the non 38 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: emergency transportation companies because I couldn't believe the number of 39 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: those companies that exist in Minnesota, and whenever I see 40 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: them drive around town, there's never any passenger in any 41 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: of them ever. Over seven years, and I followed some 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: of them. They went to Walmart, Sam's Club, Costco, cub Grocery, 43 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: I mean, and they never carried anybody to any place. 44 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: So I had all this data while didn't trust any 45 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: of the media than Twin Cities, no way, because all 46 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: they do is turn it against you. And so I 47 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: went on the internet and I said, Okay, I have 48 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: to find an influencer who's going to mesh with this, 49 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: who's sincere uh and you know he's just he's got 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: that look about him. And I looked at a lot 51 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: of influences. When I saw Nick Shirley right away, I said, 52 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: that's the guy. 53 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Wow, And he, like you said absolutely, I'm on board 54 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: of me. Did did that relationship kick off just that quickly? 55 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Well, I mean we saw and there's quite I mean, 56 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: we're like forty years apart in age, right, it was 57 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: an instant, instant connection, immediate. I mean I couldn't believe it. 58 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: It was like we'd known each other for a thousand years. 59 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: It was just a seamless, this seamless collaboration between us 60 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: that was as evident in the videos. 61 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: So let's talk about what got your senses going seven 62 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: years ago? What was it about these daycare centers that 63 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: made you go, there's something wrong here. You guys, listen, 64 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: if somebody wants to put up a fake daycare, but 65 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: not take taxpayer money. I don't care, but these these 66 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: people were getting millions upon millions of dollars in taxpayer money. 67 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: What was it a about what you were seeing in Minneapolis? 68 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: In Minnesota that made you say there's something wrong here. 69 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't see like you didn't see any playgrounds or 70 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: desks or kids or I mean, what was it that 71 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: made you say I need to dig deeper? 72 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: Well, Joe, firstly, I was born and raised in Minneapolis, 73 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: so I've been here my whole life. And driving around, 74 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: what I noticed was these childcare facilities were popping up 75 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: all over the place. I said, well, I mean there's 76 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: like four of them within four blocks. And I said, well, 77 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: how how is this? I mean, who who's sending other 78 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: kids there? And these are not in good neighborhoods, a 79 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: lot of them, right, And I said, well, who's filling 80 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: up these childcares? And so I noticed that snow had 81 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: fallen outside one of the facilis. I said, well, why 82 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: aren't there any footprints in the snow that any of them? 83 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: I got to stop. I was I was in Michigan 84 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: for eight years as a television news anchor, so we're 85 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: not far from Minnesota and it just snows. For those 86 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: of are who have never lived in the in the Midwest, 87 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful area. But when it snows, it snows, 88 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: and you see if somebody walked through it, don't if 89 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: it's a dog that walked through it, you will see 90 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: the pall prints. That is so funny to me that 91 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: you didn't see any footprints, and that really got you 92 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: going go ahead. 93 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: So I said, well, who, I mean, what is going 94 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: on here? So I started to look at these childcare 95 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: facilities and who owned them, and they all came up 96 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: so Mali names wow, and I said, well, is there 97 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: I mean? So then I started to look at the 98 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: funding mechanisms for these childcares and what I noticed was 99 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: that they get sea CAP money, which is childcare assistance payments. Well, 100 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: it's a blend of federal and state money. So I said, well, 101 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: what are the regulations regarding or covering when you get 102 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: state money in federal money and when you get federal 103 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: money in a facility. It's mandated by the Civil Rights 104 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Act of nineteen sixty four, Title six that says you 105 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: cannot be ethnically exclusive. You can't have only one race 106 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: or one ethnic group, run your facility. And you know, 107 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: it's kind of funny because they're not really guilty that 108 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: because they didn't have any kids at all. It's not 109 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: that the only they didn't have any I started to 110 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: sit outside these childcare and I'd sit down down the block. 111 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: I'd hear them morning. I go by some of the afternoons, 112 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: some of the evening, because some of them say they're 113 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: open two to ten. And I said, well, okay, well, 114 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: I mean, what time do these kids go to bed? 115 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: Ten o'clock? So then I went on the State of 116 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: Missile's website and I said, wait a minute. They have 117 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: two different licenses. They have six am to six pm 118 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: and six pm to six am. There are two separate licenses. 119 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: I said, well, okay, so this place says it's open 120 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: twenty four hours. This place says it's open two to ten. 121 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: So they need both licenses, right, they say, have none 122 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: of them? They have they have one license. And I 123 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: started to look at the inspection reports that and I 124 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: just I couldn't believe what I was seeing. And so 125 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: this thing just sort of grew organically from that, and 126 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: I expanded out and I started to look at autism, 127 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: and I mean, I was really behind all of this 128 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: now that has been uncovered, and it became so overwhelming. 129 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: It felt like I was drowning in the middle of 130 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: the ocean. I just wanted to stop, but I said 131 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: I can't. I was born here. I'm not gonna let 132 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: this happen. 133 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: It is David Hokey is the other guy in those 134 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: Nick Shirley videos. He's the man with the paperwork with 135 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: the documentation. You know, I find it I should have 136 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: assumed that you did this, but I find it so 137 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: refreshing that you sat there and you were watching to 138 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: see if any kids got dropped off, because you could 139 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: say it's not happening. They could say it is happening. 140 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: You can claim we'll look at the paperwork and they 141 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: can share what the paperwork is this that, But your 142 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: lieon eyes. You sat there and watched as no kids 143 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: went in and they had no excuse for why they 144 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: were getting millions upon millions of dollars. All the stuff 145 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: that you got is public record because it's public funds, right, 146 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: So you go and get this information. You see that 147 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: it's one point two six million, two point sixty six million. 148 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: These individual offices that were like in one building we're 149 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: all collecting tens of millions of dollars and you never 150 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: saw one child walk in. So do you think to yourself, 151 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: let me ask them what's going on? Or did you 152 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: know that we better expose this through Nick because you 153 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: found him and you thought that he was the right guy, 154 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: and he was. It turns out you thought, let me 155 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: expose this in a broader sense because had you gone 156 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: in and made a stink, David, they might have closed 157 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: up shop or ran away or taken the records or 158 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: whatever else. I mean, you were really prescient to not 159 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: do it yourself. Did you think about doing it on 160 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: your own? 161 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: Well, so the answer to your question is I did 162 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: go to one of the transportations, did you okay? And 163 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: asked them I'd like to I'd like to schedule a ride, 164 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: and they said we're all full, and you know, they 165 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: basically chased me out of the office. And as you 166 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: can see from the videos that's exactly what happened to 167 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: Nick and me when we went in there. That they 168 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: became very violent. They said what are you doing here? 169 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: And I thought, well, it says you're a transportation company, 170 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: or it says you're a childcare you know, and so 171 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: it was when someone reacts that way, you know they're 172 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: they're they're they're hiding something. Yeah, And so I just 173 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: knew that I had to bring Nick into the picture 174 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: because I couldn't open this up on a local level 175 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: because it would get buried. I said, we got to 176 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: drop this like a nuclear bomb on the internet. And 177 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: so I got to have Nick to come in. And 178 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: I just bugged him until he called me. He called 179 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: me Friday night at like nine p thirty on December twelfth. Wow, 180 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 2: and he's this of last year, twenty four for twenty 181 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: five and he says, I'm coming to Minneapolis on Monday. 182 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna start filming on Tuesday. I said, I got 183 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: it all laid out for you. I know the route, 184 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: I know where we're going. 185 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: Beautiful. 186 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: I got all the money that going to these child 187 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: here facilities. And Nick's been around the world and he 188 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 2: was shocked. He said, this is the worst he's ever 189 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: seen anywhere. 190 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: It is. It's David hok, David K. Can you show 191 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: us that shirt I want to show I want to 192 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: show everybody's watching the hoodie that you're wearing. I'm going 193 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: to take your name down for a second. It's the 194 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: equality leering sector one eight hundred fraud. I mean, that's 195 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: it's absolutely wonderful. I got I got to tell you 196 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: when you guys, when Nick was out there and you 197 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: were with him, and he's showing that they didn't even 198 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: take the time to spell the word learning, right, I mean, 199 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: that thing is viral like crazy, and that was just 200 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. So you go there, you've 201 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: got Nick, you start uncovering this. What I don't think 202 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: people realize was it's not just daycare fraud. It's not 203 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: just feed or futures fraud. You mentioned autism a couple 204 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: of times. It's transportation fraud. And by and large, David, 205 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: are these all people from Somalia? I heard some report 206 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: that not all of them are Somalian. Some are also 207 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: from other parts of Eastern Africa. This appears to be 208 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: people from that region of the world that came to Minnesota. 209 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: Did you see anybody other than those communities that were 210 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: involved in those that I just mentioned? 211 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: No, a Somali? 212 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: How do how do they find out what money is available? 213 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: Let's go through the process that they must have gone through, 214 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: because there's no way that Keith Ellison has clean hands, 215 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: or Jacob Fry has clean hands. Brian O'Hara might even 216 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: not have clean hands the way he's reacting to the 217 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: Somali community community. You know that Tim walls as dirty 218 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: as can be. So how do the people from the 219 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: Somali community even get wind of there's money of if 220 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: you pretend there's a daycare. There's money available if you 221 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: pretend to be a transportation company, or or fighting autism, 222 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: or or feed our futures. Because I don't think you 223 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: get you get on a plane or a boat from Somalia. 224 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they took a boat. But they come 225 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: on a plane, they come here land in Minneapolis and go, 226 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to open a fake daycare. So how do 227 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: you think they get clued in on there's money available 228 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: that might not even be traceable. 229 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: So let me just interject real quick. So the wife 230 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: of the police chief of Minneapolis is a Muslim police 231 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: officer in New Jersey. 232 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. That that explains a lot. Go ahead. 233 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: So from what I can gather, this fraud started in 234 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: about nineteen eighty eight, and there was a concerted effort 235 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: to bring Somali's in here. A lot of them illegally, 236 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: but to get them in here because they knew they 237 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: would they would represent a solid voting block and they 238 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: would all vote together, and they knew they could ballot harvest, 239 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: and so they started putting them in Cedar Square West, 240 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: which when I went to University of Minnesota was all 241 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: student housing, and now it's all Somali one hundred percent. 242 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: In fact, most of the high rises around there are 243 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: exclusively Somali. And there's a method they go through harassment 244 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: and false police reports that forces people out and then 245 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: they move another Smali in it. 246 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: And I want to get into that in earnest in 247 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: a second. I had no idea. This was thirty eight 248 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: years ago, almost forty years ago. I had no idea. 249 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: That's when it started as somebody who's from Minnesota, born 250 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: and raised, as you said, in Minneapolis. When you see 251 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of people coming from a very different third 252 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: world culture and also coming from a hot place going 253 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: to Minnesota, which is climate climate why is not even close? 254 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Did you start thinking to yourself, why here? Why are 255 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: we bringing them here? Did that? I mean, did you immediately, 256 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: even almost forty years ago, think this doesn't make sense? 257 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: I did think that because it's so bitterly cold here 258 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: in the winter, and these folks are coming from you know, 259 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: Airic countries. I said, why Minnesota. Why aren't you in Dallas, Texas, 260 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: or Phoenix, Arizona or Florida. I mean, this, this doesn't 261 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: make sense. There's there's got to be something that ain't seemed. 262 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: More and more and more of them, and I said this, this, 263 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: this doesn't, this doesn't doesn't jibe with Minnesota. And what 264 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: happened was, you know, we have this term called Minnesota 265 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: and ice, which again has become a curse. And so 266 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: the the Lutheran Church and the Catholic Church they also 267 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: they started to bring all these smiles in because they're 268 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: going to save these people from Wartim country. Well, what 269 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: did bringing them over here do? Did it change Somalia? 270 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: It didn't do it. It didn't make any difference all. But 271 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: you would think these folks would be so grateful to 272 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: be here that they would kiss the ground every day, 273 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: and it's it's just the opposite. And I think you're right, Joe, 274 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: that somebody or some persons were involved in generating all 275 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 2: this fraud and knowing that they could tie all these 276 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: Somali votes to them, if they allowed all this fraud 277 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: to occur, it is uh. 278 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: David Hokey is the other guy who, along with Nick 279 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: Shirley and these viral videos a new one just out 280 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: on Monday about the transportation companies. You've got to go 281 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: and see these people get pretty riled up that David 282 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: and Nick are asking very simple questions like, well, we'd 283 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: just like to know about the transportation company. It's this address, 284 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm here. Do you see a transportation company? Okay? Then 285 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: why are you getting publicly public money? But public money 286 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: and public funds. So let's go through the process of 287 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: doing the fake daycares, because I can say fake daycares 288 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: are not worry about being sued. They're clearly fake. They 289 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: have no children there, they're not daycares. How does that 290 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: process work? Get you decide I'm going to open up 291 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: the Leering Center and it's going to be a center 292 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: for ninety nine kids or whatever. Then you go to 293 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: the state government, you go to the federal government, you 294 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: ask for a grant, you ask for money. How exactly 295 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: are they getting these millions of dollars? What are they 296 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: saying to get that? 297 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: What they're doing is they're going to the politicians who 298 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: are fostering this fraud, and those politicians are guiding them 299 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: through the process to get them licensed to open a 300 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: childcare for facility. And then it's just some random number. 301 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: We got ninety kids. We've got ninety I mean the numbers. 302 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: If you sit down and look at the per child, 303 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: it just none of it lines up. It's all fraud 304 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: and none of it makes sense. And so I think 305 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: it was with the help of people like Tim Walls 306 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: and Ihan Omar, they constructed the framework for all this 307 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: fraud and then they just plugged the people in. They 308 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: had it all set up and they just plugged them in, 309 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: and then it just spread out. In Minneapolis is ground 310 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: zero for the country on this fraud. They tested it 311 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: out in Minneapolis, said what can we get away with here? 312 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: And they said, well, these people are idiots, and so 313 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: they just multiplied it. And then they went to where Columbus, Ohio, 314 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: which now has you see all the problems coming out 315 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: of Columbus. And then from there they said, okay, we 316 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: have a national model. Let's roll it out and they 317 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: went to all fifty states. 318 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: It is unbelievable. It's again David Hokey's the other guy 319 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: along with Nick Shirley, those viral videos about the fraud 320 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: going on in Minnesota. So they say, I've got ninety 321 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: nine kids and then they get a per kid head 322 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: can I I guess money funding from the state and 323 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: from the and from the federal government. And again you 324 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: saw no kids. What did you think when you saw 325 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: like the next day, once the video of the first 326 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: video hit, suddenly like twenty kids showed up. They had 327 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: like twenty kids walking into the building. There's nowhere to 328 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: put them, but they wanted to prove that in fact, 329 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: it was a daycare. 330 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: Well, and you know what was funny about that day 331 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: is that Tiky Brown, who's the commissioner of Children, Family 332 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: and Learning, whatever stupid name the department is given, she 333 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: went online and she said that that daycare had been closed. 334 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: A childcare had been closed a week before that week 335 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: film it kids in the child wait anute. She just said, 336 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: you were closed. 337 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they got the memo, David, it's right. 338 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: She came out. I saw that. I played the video 339 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: on my show and she said it's been close. Well, 340 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: that's why nobody was there, and that they're so dumb. 341 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: I guess they showed up to the wrong daycare. They 342 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: should have sent them somewhere else. But even if listen, 343 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: it's twenty kids and they were allowed to have what 344 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: ninety nine, So I mean, it still doesn't make any sense. 345 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: And then the breaking news story was we were broken 346 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: into overnight and the thief was so egregious that he 347 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: only stole the names of our students and the staff. 348 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Come on, man, I mean, they are spinning in place 349 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: and they don't know what to do. When you saw 350 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: that report, because even the Minneapolis PD that doesn't like 351 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: a guy like me or a guy like you exposing fraud, 352 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: even they had to say, we have not been reported. 353 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: Nobody reported anything stolen to us from that facility. When 354 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: you saw that come out, I mean, clearly that's just 355 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: them trying to cover their tracks, right. They stole the 356 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: student records and the employee records. Come on, much more 357 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: with David Hokan in a minute, You're not gonna believe it. 358 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: He reveals next stay right here. Got to tell you 359 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: a better sponsor for this one. 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And why 377 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: would they go through cinderblock when they could have gone 378 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: up ten inches and gone through sheet rock? 379 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: Right? 380 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: Did they go through this? It's the whole thing. And 381 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: then the guys wearing three thousand dollars sunglasses glasses while 382 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: he's talking, Yeah, I said, what do you said? A 383 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: twelve year old kid out there, where's the attorney. Well, 384 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: the attorney for the childcare is this guy who wrote 385 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: a hit piece on us, And it starts, you mean 386 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: we had another hit piece come out today and at 387 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: the end of the article they had to admit we 388 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: might be right. 389 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: What I hit a piece on what you dared expose? 390 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: What's going on? It's David Hoak. Go down to YouTube 391 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: dot com slash Nick Shirley, go see these videos. If 392 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: you haven't seen the met yet, where are you? You 393 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: should be seeing these all right, so we know how 394 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: the daycare stuff worked. How did they feed our futures 395 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: thing worked? Did they feed anybody? No? 396 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: So one of the facilities that I found was on 397 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: a street called Broadway Avenue in North Minneapolis, which is 398 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: a really rough part of town. And I went by 399 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: the address and it's convenience store. It's about maybe eighteen 400 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: feet wide by twelve feet deep. And I went in there. 401 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: He's got snacks and chips. I said, you're doing one 402 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: hundred thousand meals a week. There's no he can't. And 403 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: so that was the genesis of them looking into it, 404 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: and then one thing led to another, And that's why 405 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: transportation is the hub because all those meals had to 406 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: get delivered. They never were, of course they weren't real. 407 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: The kids have to get the asses them, they got 408 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: to get tell you, it's all revolves around the transportation. 409 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: So they have an entire system on paper that looks 410 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: like transporting kids to daycare. We're transporting people to get 411 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: a free meal because they can't afford it. We're transporting 412 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: people to get autism care. And they have this whole 413 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: economy that just doesn't exist, but on paper it looks 414 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: like it's really good, it's really cool for the neighborhood, 415 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: for the community. 416 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: Well, Joe, you saw we went to these locations that 417 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: are listed that printed that off that day for those companies. 418 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: One's a liquor store, one's a wire another, one's an 419 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: apartment building. I said, well, none of these exist. So 420 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: I mean, if they're eight hundred of them, probably more, 421 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: how many of them are just completely on paper. They're 422 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: total fraud, all of it. 423 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: The federal government needs to be involved in this and 424 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: is involved in this. We do have some prosecutions for 425 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: the DOJ, but there's a lot more to come. Have 426 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: they contacted you to find out where you got this information? 427 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: And all the resources that they contacted, Nick, I would 428 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: hope that they're including you and the evidence that you've 429 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: gathered in whatever prosecutions could be coming. Are they talking 430 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: to you about this? Well? 431 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: I was working with one of the federal agents these 432 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: I won't name which one, Okay, I met with them 433 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: about three or four weeks ago, and they were giving 434 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: the information to Joe Thompson, who was the US attorney, right, 435 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: And I said, well, the key because we're I'm sitting 436 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: at the table with all these they said, these these 437 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: agents and all this paperwork, and they're looking at it like, 438 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: what do we do? How do we how do we 439 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: get our arms around the grease tippo? 440 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: Right? 441 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: And I said, the way to go at this is 442 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: to go after the tax returns of the childcare facilities 443 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: because they're getting all that sea cap money and they 444 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: have to have So if they said they have ninety 445 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: nine kids, they got to have ten staff members because 446 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: it's a it's a one to ten ratio, yes, and 447 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: so they got so they should be showing W two's 448 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: for ten employees for each of those childcare facilities. 449 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: David, did nobody do any oversight at all? I mean, 450 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: if I go to Minneapolis right now and open Joe's daycare. 451 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: Nobody comes and checks and make sure that I that 452 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: I have desks and a blackboard and a playground and crayon. 453 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: I mean, did nobody? Nobody does any check and balance whatsoever? 454 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: Is there? No? The rules and regulations in Minnesota have 455 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: to be that you've got to prove that it's at 456 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: least safe for kids to go there. 457 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 2: Well, what's funny is so the Quality Leering Center so there, 458 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: so they have Quality Leering Center. Three words on their 459 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: sign and then on the door it says fourteen to 460 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: eleven Nicolett Avenue. They misspelled the word Nickeolet. 461 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: Wow, come on, man, I didn't. 462 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Bring it up for the video because it was leering 463 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: was so egregious. So if the state's inspecting these people, 464 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: why are you not telling them their signs misspelled? Yes, 465 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't that be the first thing you would do. 466 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, you gotta correct your sign. 467 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: And you've got the addressaurants. What's interesting is they corrected. 468 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: They started correcting the sign like the next day. Did 469 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: they think you didn't still have the video? I mean, 470 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: you had the video showing that they misspelled and that didn't. 471 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: They thought that would just fix it, and then they 472 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: would try to change Nicolette and fix it, and then 473 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: they just gave up. It's like they didn't they didn't 474 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: learn how to spell it before they were correcting it. 475 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: So I mean, is there there's got to be a 476 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: process on the books that they should be checking it. 477 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: But what you're saying is they never took the time 478 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: to check it. Was that on purpose? Do you think? 479 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: Were they incompetent? Are they inca hoots? What's going on? 480 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 2: So the Department of Human Services, which conducts the inspections, 481 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: said that they're all unannounced, and I said, oh, come on, 482 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: give me a break. Come on, so there, because they 483 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 2: would be running the same thing we ran into where 484 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: the doors are locked. There's nobody there. They say they're 485 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 2: open two to ten, and you go there at five o'clock, 486 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: there's nobody there. Right, And look, if Department of Human 487 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: Service is open from eight to four thirty or eight 488 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: thirty to four, whatever it is, do you think someone 489 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: is going out after four o'clock and conducting inspections. 490 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: Ill? 491 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: No, they're government workers. They're gone. 492 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So no. 493 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: But but the inspections that supposedly were done. They found 494 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: hazardous chemicals, unprotected outlets, broken furniture, dirty infested carpets and rugs. Wow, 495 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: and I could I never found a follow up except 496 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 2: if you look at the graph or the spreadsheet I 497 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: put together, it says document approved for repairs or whatever was. 498 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: They never physically checked to make sure it was repaired. 499 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: They accepted what the daycare told. 500 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: Him, and the daycare continue to get money from you 501 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: and me. 502 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: As we speak, I think, well, now I think some 503 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: of it has you know, I'm trying to get the 504 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: spick it turned off. Yeah, because Secretary Best. When I 505 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: talked with him, I said, well, if you're going to 506 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: go after the money, wires and the and the stars, 507 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: you're letting the tail wag the dog. Yes, because you've 508 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: got to stop the source. Don't go chasing aufre in 509 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 2: Saudi Arabian kenyons. So waste the time. Turn it off 510 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: right here and then you don't have to worry about that. 511 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: It's side David Hok he's the other guy along with 512 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: Nick Shirley, that's exposing all this fraud in Minneapolis, Minnesota. 513 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: We had a report yesterday from John Solomon. I love 514 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: you saw this, but he's reporting it's seven hundred million 515 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: plus that was sent in cash from beef cases from 516 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: here over to Somalia. David, do you think it would 517 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: be seven hundred million dollars that that was being sent 518 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: back cash money, untraceable cash money from you and me? 519 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: Well, so when I started working with the US attorney, 520 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: they were talking feeding their future turn fifty nine. I said, 521 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: turn fifty nine. That's that's in the loose change in 522 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: the couch for these guys. I said, the fraud is 523 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: going to be eighty to one hundred billion dollars by 524 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: the time the DUFF settles on this. So then they 525 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 2: came out and they said it's a billion dollars. Then 526 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 2: he came out and he said, well, we think it's 527 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 2: nine billion. And I said, well, you're getting closer, keep going. 528 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: And so then, of course, you know, the US attorney 529 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: resigned this week where he got fired. I'm not really 530 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: sure what happened. 531 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: Well, he resigned and then they fired him before they 532 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: let him resign. Yeah, but he was resigning allegedly over 533 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: the ice shooting. Do you think that he resigned over 534 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: something else? 535 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 2: No? What is he a nine year old? Because they 536 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: wanted to investigate the wife of the girl, the woman 537 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: who got shot. Right, he's in he's he's the controller 538 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: of of investigating the the most egregious fraud in US history. Yes, 539 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: and he leaves me in the middle of these meet 540 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: the altar. I mean, why why would. 541 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: He do that? 542 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: He's a coward. 543 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. 544 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: And in my opinion, he's a trader for doing that. 545 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: Trader one hundred percent, because we were relying on him 546 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: to uncover the answers. And if he was working with you, 547 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: and he was that he was going to uncover the answers. 548 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: We said nine billion, Now you think it could be 549 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: eighty to one hundred billion dollars? David, can't we account 550 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: for every single dollar that Minnesota's or Americans taxpayers have 551 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: been sending to these days? I mean, I would think 552 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: that every dime they got, we know how much that 553 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: money is. Now, if the money's missing and a lot 554 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: of it is tons of it is, well, we can 555 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: figure that out later. But shouldn't we have a full 556 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: accounting from either Minnesota or from the US government or 557 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: both of them together, exactly what the number is. And 558 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: if we do know what it is, what is the 559 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: exact number? 560 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 2: So the average person could not get the data that 561 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: I have. It's impossible to get from the state to Minnesota. 562 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: In fact, I requested the non emergency medical transportation reimbursement 563 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 2: numbers back in October and I've been emailing them every 564 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: week and I have not heard back from them. And 565 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: that was how many months ago? So the average person, 566 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: they're counting on that person getting frustrated and just going away. 567 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: The reason I was able to come up with the 568 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: childcare numbers is because I have a contact who is 569 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: able to get it for me. Nice So you'll see 570 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: that in the video. I offered one hundred thousand dollars 571 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: because this crowd was shouting uncontroll of me. I said, Okay, 572 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: here we go, one hundred thousand dollars if you can 573 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: prove that any of this information is inaccurate in any way, 574 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: and if you can't, then you got to give me 575 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars. And the whole crowd shut up. You 576 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: see that dead silence. 577 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: Because they've got no leg to stand on. So David 578 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: literally literally we don't have the transportation number. So that 579 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: could be tens of billions more. Could it be that much? 580 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: It is? 581 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: And so what we do, or what I did is 582 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 2: I looked at a national average, and any empty company 583 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: on national average has twenty vehicles and they generate seventy 584 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year per vehicle in revenue. So if 585 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: you have eight hundreds of those companies in Minnesota, what's 586 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: that number? 587 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: It's a lot. 588 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's yeah, elon, most couldn't forget it's such 589 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: a big number. 590 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm with you, and it's you know, it's crazy 591 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: because you mentioned Minnesota and nice earlier, and I've always 592 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: had a great affinity for Minnesota. I've been live in 593 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: the Twin Cities for ten years now. My show is 594 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: live around the country, but we're live at five o'clock 595 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: at eleven thirty AM, and we just love the people. 596 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: You guys could not be nicer. Some of my best 597 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: friends when I used to work in Michigan were actually 598 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: from Minnesota. But you got to drop the Minnesota nice. 599 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: You gotta get Minnesota nasty. I really need because I 600 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: know and I think you know this too. Just to 601 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: talk about ice quickly, that most people in Minneapolis want 602 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: ice there. Most people in Minnesota want ice to get 603 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: the worst of the worst off the streets. They would 604 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: like to see the police chief of the mayor and 605 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: the governor work with them. They're not going to do that, 606 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: but most people, quietly, they won't say it out loud, 607 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: really are happy that the bad people in the community 608 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: will be taken out. They're also happy that the fraud 609 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: is going to be uncovered. What is it going to 610 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: take for more people to stand up? Like you? Do 611 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: you think that maybe you're starting something that could become 612 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: contagious in Minnesota for others to step up and say, 613 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: I've had enough to this is my state. 614 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping. And so that's why in the second video, 615 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: the first video, we focused on Minneapolis, right, and I 616 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: planned because then everyone says, oh, it's a Minneapolis problem. 617 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: I live out in Eden Prairie or Minnetaka's some really 618 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: nice area. I don't need to worry about that. That's 619 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: why we went out to the wealthier suburbs and I said, 620 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: this is in your backyard. It's not a Minneapolis problem. 621 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: It's everywhere. It's all throughout the state. Because I wanted 622 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: people to go, wait, that's in Hopkins, that's in Eton Prairie. 623 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: I mean you saw those guys burst out of that 624 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: Hopkins child Cer Center. They were yes, guns blazing. I mean, 625 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: they couldn't believe it. 626 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Right, It's unbelievable to me that this laid dormant for 627 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: almost forty years. Thank God for you and Nick that 628 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: you guys are exposed. Let me ask you one question 629 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: about voting. I know that you haven't done this, but 630 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: I get the feeling that you're this guy. Voting fraud 631 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: probably is an issue in Minnesota. I mean, we've seen 632 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: undercover videos by James o'keef that say it is an 633 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: issue in Minnesota. Right now, Walls will not turn over 634 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: the voting roles to the Department of Justice Civil Rights 635 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: Division to Army Dylan, and he needs to because I'm guessing, 636 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: and I'm guessing that you probably think this too. There 637 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: are probably a lot of people who are not allowed 638 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: to vote who are on the voting roles. Are you 639 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: Do you have any intention on looking into that yourself, 640 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: because as good as you did here, I think you'd 641 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: be amazing to uncover what's really going on in the 642 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: voting roles because listen, I want anybody who's allowed to 643 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: vote to vote. I want it to be a fair 644 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: and free election. Nobody in nobody's franchise take it away. 645 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: But James o'keeff himself just showed people who are buying ballots, 646 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: these mail in ballots in Minnesota. Are you investigating that 647 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: at all? Do you plan to? 648 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: Well, I have something else that I won't talk about 649 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: right now that has gotten my attention. But okay, I've 650 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: brought up up and I've seen ballot harvesting in these 651 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: Somali high rises and they can put down they have 652 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: six or seven or eight or nine people in one 653 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: apartment and they get nine ballots that apartment. 654 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: And they're all counted and. 655 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they might have two people living there whatever, 656 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: or they have kids and they count them as voters, 657 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: and it's it's literally the wild West. I've seen guys 658 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: carried because I sat around during the election periods and 659 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: I saw these guys walking these high rises with boxes, 660 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: throw them in the back of what their transportation vehicles. 661 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: They're Plymouth caravans, and then off they went. And I said, well, 662 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: they're ballot harvesting. 663 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: It's got to be. 664 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm hoping I want a childcare in one of these 665 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: childcares to sue me, because don't you know, the discovery 666 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to get all their records, all their payments, 667 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: and I'm going to get their exterior camera footage to 668 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: show they never had any kids go in. 669 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: The door without giving anything away. And it's David Hoak. Vid. 670 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: Do you want to give your socials at all? You 671 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: want to go all through Nick Shirley for all of it? 672 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: Nick, surely please? 673 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: Okay, just go to YouTube dot com slash Nick Shirley 674 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: and follow Nick Shirley everywhere. You'll see the videos with 675 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: this guy. He's the other guy. This is David Hoak. 676 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: He's the one that collected all the data and Nick 677 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: went out there and did a remarkable job and reporting 678 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: on this. Do you have more to come? I don't. 679 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to give any secrets away, but 680 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: you just drop one on Monday, which is massive. Everybody's 681 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: got to got to go and see this transportation what 682 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: looks like transportation fraud. You got to go back and 683 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: see the daycare stuff. Are you dropping more soon? Are 684 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: you guys working on more stuff? Well? 685 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: I have my teeth into something and I don't know 686 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: how how much information I'm going to be able to 687 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: extract out of this. 688 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: Okay, But like I said in the video. 689 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: Tim Walls and Minnesota Department of Human Services. I'm coming 690 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: for you. 691 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: Let me leave you with this. And if I were 692 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: Tim Walls, I'd be afraid of that because you actually 693 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: bring the goods. Let me leave you with this. Tim 694 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: Walls dropping out of the race for reelection. This had 695 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: everything about what you guys exposed, didn't it. 696 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: So it does and he's become such an albatross around 697 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: the DEM's next he's got to resign. They can't have 698 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: him sitting around when they go into the midterms. It's 699 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: as a disaster for them. 700 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: I had Dustin Grage on the other day, and you 701 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: may know Dustin he's a reporter from Minnesota as well, 702 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: but he was on my show and he said it 703 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: could be that Cloba Sharh is running for governor. She 704 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: thinks she can win because she's very popular, although she's 705 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: never done anything from Minnesota. And if she should win 706 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: the governorship her seat becomes open, she could give it 707 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: to Tim Wallas. Do you think they could possibly be 708 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: doing Why would they give Tim Wallas the US Senate 709 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: seat when this guy, as you said, is damaged goods? 710 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: I because it's Minnesota and anything is possible here as 711 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: outrageous as it may seem, I think this is the 712 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: epicenter of the evil that has overtaken our country. It's 713 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: right here in Minneapolis. 714 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: Strong words from a man who knows he's out there 715 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: collecting the information. He's the other guy, David Hoak. David, 716 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: thanks for reaching out, Thanks for coming on today. Keep 717 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: up the incredible working life. Let's do this again soon, 718 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: keep on exposing what wrongs are being done to Minnesotan's 719 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: and to everybody here in the United States. Thank you, 720 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: my friend, Thank you. Joe. All right, brother that's in front, 721 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 1: shaking and unafraid with Joe Paggs. This time another one 722 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: to drop very soon. Make sure you subscribe.