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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a there's been a change, but the

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Speaker 1: been in service, and many of those have been injured

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Speaker 1: emotionally and psychologically. And there's so many reasons for that.

436
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Speaker 1: First of all, it's just the job itself, right, The

437
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: job itself can be emotionally damaging because you are seeing

438
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: literally the worst that humanity has to offer. I mean,

439
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: I can tell you from from thirty four years of

440
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: law enforcement that there were very very dark times in

441
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Speaker 1: my personal history and I was not ashamed to ask

442
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: for help when when it when when the darkness really

443
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: really fell? But you know, I mean I remember, I remember,

444
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, a baby that dyed in my arms, that

445
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: I whose life I tried to save after she drowned.

446
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Speaker 1: And I still see your face.

447
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Speaker 2: So I was gonna I was gonna ask you what

448
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: trigger is something like that. I mean, so it's a

449
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: specific I mean, that's I can't even imagine. I just

450
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: have a brand new granddaughter was just born. I can't

451
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: even imagine having to go through that. And then you're

452
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: expected just to put the uniform on again, just keep

453
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Speaker 2: on going.

454
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Speaker 1: You're supposed to not only clear the call and then

455
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: go right to the next call. And so and every cop,

456
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: every cop will go through trauma. Every police officer will

457
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: see things that will that will challenge them and that

458
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: will change them internally externally the way that they view

459
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: things and the way they affect their family. And so

460
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: everybody feels alone. Our motto at the Wound of Blue

461
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: is never forgotten, never alone, And that is because when

462
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: you get injured, either physically or psychologically, you feel alone.

463
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: And when you are, when you get that sensation, it's

464
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: a very very dark place to be. Now, let me

465
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: tell you some other things that they're going to shock you, Joe,

466
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Speaker 1: and why I created the organization to begin with. If

467
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Speaker 1: you had asked me twenty years ago, Randy, what's your

468
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: future going to be? I would never have said it'll

469
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: be running a national wide charity that helps injured and

470
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 1: disabled cops, that was not that it was not on

471
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Speaker 1: my to do list, But what happened to me was

472
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: I had a stroke in my police car. That is

473
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Speaker 1: what ended my police career, right on Las Vegas Boulevard

474
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Speaker 1: at two thirty in the morning, and I was the

475
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Speaker 1: watch commander. I was the highest ranking officer on duty

476
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: that night, and luckily I had a patrol officer with me.

477
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: And at two thirty in the morning, we're driving down

478
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Boulevard having a conversation like I'm talking with

479
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: you right now, and suddenly I found myself talking slower

480
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: and I literally felt my brain slowing down, and I

481
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: knew I was having a stroke. So I stopped the

482
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: car right in the middle of the street and I said,

483
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Speaker 1: get me medical, I'm having a stroke, and I got

484
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: out of the car to go round to the passenger

485
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Speaker 1: side in case he needed to get me the hospital.

486
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Speaker 1: And then I started speaking gibberish and I knew I

487
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: was speaking gibberish, but I couldn't control it, and it

488
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: was the most frightening moment of my life. And then

489
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: I lost the ability to speak and move all together,

490
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Speaker 1: and I crumpled to the pavement and that's where my

491
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: police career ended laying there helpless, watching people walk by

492
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Speaker 1: me taking my picture as I'm laying there, absolutely helpless

493
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Speaker 1: in the dirty gutter of Las Vegas Boulevard.

494
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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And it was, I tell you, quite honestly. I wasn't

496
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: afraid to die. In fact, I was wishing to die

497
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to live like that. Right, But

498
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: once again, that angel has been on my shoulder. My

499
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: entire career was with me again that night, and the

500
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: blood clotting through my brain did its damage, but it

501
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: certainly could have done substantially more. But it ended my

502
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: police career. And what happened next is what is going

503
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: to shock you as it shocked me, And that's my

504
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: own agency turned its back on me. I said, we're

505
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: not paying your medical bills, We're not giving you your benefits.

506
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I said, I mean hold on, not only

507
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: I mean if it happened at home, they still should

508
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: pay for everything. But you were driving down Las Vegas Boulevard.

509
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: What't happened in uniform? And they're not paying for anything.

510
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? That's what I said. I said,

511
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: what do you mean you can't do that? It's the law.

512
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: And they said, yeah, well make us. And I got

513
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: to tell you, I've never felt so abandoned. So after

514
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: twenty four years of service, and I believe me, I

515
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: almost gave my life more than on more than one

516
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: occasion as a police officer in Las Vegas, I survived

517
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: five shootings. So I feeling this devastating feeling of abandonment

518
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: was very difficult to deal with.

519
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: I even went to go see the sheriff who I

520
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: served with for twenty four years, and I said, how

521
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: do you treat me like this? And he looked at

522
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: me and I'll never forget this. Look me right in

523
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: the eyes, Randy. This isn't personal, man, It's just business.

524
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: And here's the harsh reality. He was telling me the truth.

525
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: You see, I was no longer I was no longer

526
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: an asset to my agency. I'm now a financial liability. Wow.

527
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize this. It's very difficult to fathom.

528
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: And then and they fought me every step of the way.

529
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: They lost every single hearing and still continue to fight me.

530
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: And it lasted a year and a half before the

531
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: judge finally said, you got to pay his medical bills.

532
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: It's the law. You got to give them his benefits.

533
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: And here's the here's what's going to be very difficult

534
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: for most people that are listening to this to believe,

535
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: but it is the harsh reality. They were hoping that

536
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: I would die in the meantime. Oh wow. And and

537
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I thought that this was just me, Joe. I just

538
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: thought this was Randy. Well. Then from being on the

539
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: show Cops and writing books and being in the movies

540
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: and being so visible in the law enforcement community, cop

541
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: started reaching out to me. Randy, I know you don't

542
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: know me, but I was shot in the line of duty.

543
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: They're not paying my medical bills. They've thrown me away. Randy,

544
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: I was paralyzed when my police car was hit by

545
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: a drunk They they've thrown me. They thrown me to

546
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: the to the to the wolves. And I realized that

547
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: this wasn't Randy. This is a national issue, and there

548
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: was no national resource for these men and women. All

549
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: of the all of these terrible, heartbreaking stories that came

550
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: to me ended with the same words. At the end,

551
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: I feel abandoned, I feel alone. And then the worst,

552
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: I wish I'd never survived that night. At least I

553
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a burden of my family and it's heartbreaking, heartbreaking,

554
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: and that's why I created The Wounded Blue. And they

555
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: we sure as hell are doing something now. We are

556
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: saving lives, we are saving careers, we are saving marriages.

557
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: But I live with heartbreak every single day. Heartbreaking stories

558
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: that that that are that would just curdle your We

559
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: actually have a documentary film. If you go to Amazon

560
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: dot com, I put in the Wounded Blue, you'll see

561
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: a documentary and you better bring your tissues because you're

562
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: gonna see stories that you will find unbelievable. Police officer

563
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: was shot in it on Amazon dot com, right, and

564
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: that's that's that's where you'll you'll find our our documentary

565
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: film Can you Imagine Being? And this is all captured

566
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: on video. Police officer in pursuit of He does know it,

567
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: but they're three hired killers from the cartel in the

568
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: vehicle that he's pursuing. And this is all captured on

569
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: video during the pursuit. This is in Oklahoma. They're doing

570
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour. Suddenly you see the back

571
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: windshield break out of the of the dark out suv

572
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: either end and they open fire on him with a

573
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: high powered rifle. One of the Rounds, goes through the windshield,

574
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: hits him right smack in the forehead. He goes unconscious,

575
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: and you see his police car drift off the road

576
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: and smash into a tree after tumbling. They get him

577
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: to the hospital. They get him to the hospital, and

578
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: they refuse to give him a neurologist, saying it's medically unnecessary.

579
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: They don't pay his medical bills for over a year.

580
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: He loses his house, he loses his car, He's got

581
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: three children. And it's not until a news station did

582
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: an expose on it that suddenly they paid his medical bills.

583
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

584
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: And if it weren't for the Wounded Blue and by

585
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: the way, then they fired him. Couldn't come back to

586
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: work full duty, so they fired him. If weren't for

587
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: the Wounded Blue being able to help him get a

588
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: federal benefit of about four hundred thousand dollars, he would

589
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: have lost everything. This is criminal, but it's happening all

590
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: over the country.

591
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you would ask people before before the interview,

592
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: had you asked me and Randy, I'm running a short

593
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: on time and I want to have you on often

594
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: because I love talking to you. But had you not

595
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: told me this, I would not. I would not have

596
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: known ever, because they're hiding it, and they're hiding it

597
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: very well. My assumption is you guys not only have benefits,

598
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: You've got the best benefits on the planet because you're

599
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: literally willing to die to do what you do for

600
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: a living. I would never ever have thought that a

601
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: police agency would not stand behind everybody so quickly and

602
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: only a couple of minutes. And I do want to

603
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: have you back soon. A Why is your your organization necessary?

604
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad it's there, but because you won your case,

605
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 2: because these other cops have won their cases, why wouldn't

606
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: this make them fix what's wrong in the agencies? And

607
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: I love that you're doing it. I want you to

608
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: do charity forever. But again, your organization should not be necessary.

609
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: Why haven't necessary change has been made in these agencies

610
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: since your case and others?

611
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: You are one hundred percent right, I wish my charity

612
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: did not exist. And by the way, I want people

613
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: to know this because it's very critical. We're all worried

614
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: about charity money right about where it gets spent. I

615
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: live on my pension. I do not take a salary

616
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: from the wounded Blue. I take no money from the

617
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: wounded blue. It all goes into the services that we provide.

618
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: But we should not need to exist. And the reason

619
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: we do is because of the age old reason and

620
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: that is money.

621
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Speaker 2: Wow.

622
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: There is incredible amounts of greed that are that that

623
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: play out in the in the space of insurance companies

624
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: and third party administrators that get hired to uh to

625
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: do the workers compensation system. Uh, it's all about money,

626
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: quite honestly. Now, there are some agencies that do it right.

627
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: If you get if you get hurt in New York City,

628
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: they have a very strong police union and they have

629
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: very strong workers' compensation laws in New York City. So

630
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna get good medical attention, you're gonna

631
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: get you're gonna get good benefits. But if you go

632
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: across the I'm dealing with a police officer in New

633
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: York State right now, right now that we are getting

634
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: into see the finest final surgeon, one of the finest

635
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: final surgeons in the United States, because his own department,

636
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: after he fractured his skull fighting with the suspect, have

637
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: refused to give him his surgery. I was just with

638
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: him just five days ago and this week we're getting

639
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: him in and we're paying for it. We shouldn't have

640
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: to be paying for it. But here there's the other. Here,

641
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: here's just one one that there are great Americans that

642
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: that believe in the Wounded Blue And and we just

643
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: paid three hundred thousand dollars to fix a cop who

644
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: was told he would never walk again, and six weeks

645
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: ago he danced with his daughter at her wedding. That's amazing.

646
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: So and that's because there are great Americans that believe

647
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: in law enforcement, that believe in my organization. So I

648
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: asked that anybody that supports law enforcement go to the

649
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Wounded Blue dot org. See who we are, see what

650
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: we do, give what you can. If you are a

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Speaker 1: Wounded Blue And if you want to contact me directly,

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Speaker 1: at the Wounded Blue dot org. And I am very accessible.

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Speaker 2: That Wounded Blue dot org. Go to that website right now,

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Speaker 2: go see how you can support what Randy's doing for

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Speaker 1: Randy.

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Speaker 2: Great to meet you in person. I've been a fan

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Speaker 2: for a long time. I just realized as we started

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Speaker 2: talking that's the guy, so I really I love hanging

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Speaker 2: out with you. Let's do it again very soon, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's do that and you have a very

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Speaker 1: merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: You too, Merry Christmas, my friend. That's it for Unshaken

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