1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: There's a reason nearly forty million people have read the 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: warning from a Green Beret. He says in Minneapolis. It's 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: not a protest anymore. This is what it is. Not 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: only is in this grassroots, this is not even a protest. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: This is an insurgency. Explain that to me. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: So, first off, you have to understand that, you know, 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: Green Berets actually conduct insurgent warfare or unconventional warfare if 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: you will, And we do the exact same thing but overseas, 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: and I've taught it. I was an instructor that taught 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: it for two years to other warrant officers. So it's 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: the ability to recognize something. If you're a parent. I 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: know you're a parent, and you've ever heard your child 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: why for the first time you look right at him 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: and you know that they're lying? Why because you used 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: to lie when you were a kid. It's that same 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: feeling when you see something like that or here's something 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: like that and I know exactly what that is. 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about teaching insurgency. What is it? What 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: does that entail? Because again, it's got to come off 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: like it's grassroots. It's got to come out like come 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: off like it's like it's organic. I'm going to give 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: you some suggestions about what it's happening here in Military City, USA, 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: in San Antonio where I'm based, because you got this 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: guy Joaquin Castro, who's US representative, who's doing exactly what 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about. I want to get into that a 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: little while. But if you were to teach me insurgency, 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: what is that. 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: Doctrinally? It's a part of our unconventional warfare? Uh, it 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: would actually be. 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: It's not. 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: We have like a bunch of different things that we 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: do in special warfare. Unconventional warfare is one of them. 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: It's just a means of creating or destabilizing an area 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: using the minimum force necessary in key areas to create 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: an opening for things to happen. I actually explained this 36 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: to one of my older sisters just recently today. And 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: you're creating a space for follow on operations or efforts 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: if you will. 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: It is Eric Schwallam. Go and follow him at Sehwalm 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: five one three to two over on x an incredible 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: following out. Have you gained a bunch of followers because 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: of that post? I saw you had about sixty thousand yesterday. 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're gonna probably probably blow up. 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: It blew up. 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: I went to bed on Sunday night, I had twenty 46 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: four hundred followers. 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: Wow. The following morning, I got. 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 2: A message from one of my old Intel sergeants saying, Hey, 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: you might want to get on X and take a 50 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: look at what's going on. Then I went online and 51 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: I saw what was happening, and it really blew up 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: like I did. The past forty eight seventy two hours 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: have been really eye opening, awakening, and I've been able 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: to speak to some really incredible people. 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: Well, well, people have been dying to know what's really 56 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: going on. When we watch Minneapolis from AFAR and you're 57 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: hearing polling that fifty eight percent think that ice is 58 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: too aggressive, You're hearing walls were at war with the 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: federal government. You hear the mayor saying get the f 60 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: out of Minneapolis. You hear the police chiefs saying, if 61 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: you see somebody in uniform picking somebody up, there might 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: be kidnapping them called nine one one. Are they all 63 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: part of the insurgency? 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 65 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: So here's the thing I can't. I can't speak to 66 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: what they're thinking, what they're doing. All I know is 67 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: what I see physically on the ground. And we have 68 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: to thank some really great people out there for showing 69 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: stuff out there. Cam Higbee and Nick Shirley. Out there 70 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: are the guys on the ground. They're the ones that 71 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: are providing the information about what was going on with 72 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: the fraud, what was going on with the signal chats. 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: So we give our credit to the eyes and ears 74 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: that are out there. And I saw what they were doing. 75 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: And so when I'm going to be upfront about you, 76 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep faith with my fellow with my 77 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: fellow Americans. See the officers and everybody that are out 78 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: there that are. 79 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: Doing the job. And so what I'm seeing as. 80 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: Far as like some of the pushback against the police officers, 81 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: Unfortunately I was born in the late sixties. Some of 82 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: my family members served in Vietnam. It's very very similar 83 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: to what we saw in Vietnam with the spitting on 84 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: the soldiers, disgracing the soldiers, calling them names when they 85 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: came back from Vietnam. But all they were doing was 86 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: supporting an American policy. So these officers, the ICE, the CBP, 87 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: and everybody out there, they're supporting domestic policy. The laws 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: were created by our Congress, probably well before like even 89 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: Trump took office in twenty sixteen. 90 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: These laws were on the books. 91 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: They're enforcing, they're enforcing what our Congress actually put in. 92 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: So support to them, just the way you like we 93 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: said would never happen again. With the Vietnam soldiers, We're 94 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: going to I'm going to support them. They're just doing 95 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: what America voted to do, what our policy makers created, 96 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: and they're just carrying out. So the efforts to do 97 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: that to go against them, That's where I sit there 98 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: and say something like a third person has entered the game. 99 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: We got both Democrats and Republicans. My family is a 100 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: mix of both of them. And I said, I can 101 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: see it feels like a third party is as out 102 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: there and talking to somebody. And I see on the 103 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: from what I'm seeing on the ground, I see myself. 104 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: I see somebody out there talking to them, giving them advice, 105 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: giving them my ideas, giving them the playbook, instructing them 106 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: where to go. And it's it's a level of sophistication 107 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: that it's through the roof as far as like uncommissional 108 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: warfare goes, I as I have total respect for what 109 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm seeing on the ground as far as if it 110 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: was if it was my playbook and I was running 111 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: it that way, It's going really really well. 112 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: Wow, it is Eric Schwallm again. It's s e hw 113 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: A LM five one three two over on X. His 114 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: ex profile is blowing up because this post that he 115 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: made is absolutely eye opening. So let's talk about some specifics. 116 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this guy Alex pretty The 117 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: reason I want to talk about him is because we 118 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: have been told, I guess by the insurgency that he's 119 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: a VA nurse and a really nice guy who really 120 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: loved to bike and loved his family and just loves 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: the community and happened to be trying to save a 122 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: woman from the grasp of mean Gestapo like ICE agents 123 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: that day. But then we find a piece of video 124 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: from eleven days earlier, and he's a guy that did 125 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: what you just said. He was spitting on an ICE officer. 126 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: We see that as the ICE agents closing the door, 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: they still try to drive away, he kicks the car. 128 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: They still try to drive away. He kicks it again 129 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: and breaks the tailout assembly. They get out put him 130 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: to the ground, allegedly breaking a rib. This guy was 131 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: part of what I think you're saying was the insurgency, 132 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: But the sales job is he's the regular thirty seven 133 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: year old Minnesota of Veterans affair nurse who absolutely just 134 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: wants to take care of little kittens. But it turns 135 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: out he wasn't that guy. We now see who he was. 136 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Is he part of this because allegedly he's in the 137 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: signal chats too, and it is the explanation about who 138 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: he is by the legacy media also part of the 139 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: cover up. 140 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: He is what we would consider your basic foot soldier, 141 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: somebody who's a volunteer, somebody who's an active participant on 142 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: the ground. These are these are from an unconventional warfare standpoint, 143 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: these are your volunteers. And and it's going to sound 144 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: horrible to say, but they're almost a tool that you're 145 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: using out there. There are people out there. Whether he 146 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: was getting paid or not. I don't know what. 147 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: His idea, what his ideal ideology was. I I couldn't 148 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: tell you. I'm not inside his head. 149 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened in his life or what 150 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: brought him to be in that particular place in time. 151 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: The thing is, is like with with the unconventional warfare. 152 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: You need acts. 153 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: Out there, what you can can use to you to 154 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: your best effort, you can make an argument for who 155 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: he is, what you you're You're not going to any 156 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: time you have like some sort of situation like that, 157 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: you're going to try to play it to your side, 158 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: whether you're whether you're playing on the side of the 159 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: actual government that's in power right now or the people 160 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: who are trying to destabilize the government power right now. 161 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 2: There's there's a strong message that you can make either way. 162 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: The biggest thing that I'm going to say about him 163 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: having a gun in that particular location is there's a responsibility. 164 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: I have the authority to carry a concealed weapon, but 165 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: I have there's understanding that I have about doing It's 166 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: the same thing for like drinking alcohol. If I drink alcohol, 167 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: it's my responsibility not to get behind a wheel of 168 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: a car and go driving. If I do that, then 169 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: I'm responsible for what happens. It's my responsibility if I'm 170 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: allowed to if I have under two A to carry 171 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: a weapon. 172 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: If I carry a. 173 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: Two WA weapon into a protest and get into a 174 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 2: physical disagreement with an officer, I'm responsible for doing that, 175 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: just the same as I get drunking, get behind the wheel. 176 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: It's a great point. I'm also a two A guy 177 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: I carry all the time. I would never approach somebody, 178 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: a law enforcement officer and say, let's let's fight. Now, 179 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try to get this 180 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: woman away from you while I've got my gun on me. 181 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. So as we as we 182 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: watch that unfold and we watch the narrative, and it's 183 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: it's unraveling about this guy Alex pretty what if? What 184 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: if we find out and there are allegations here. Now 185 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that she was, but the 186 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: allegations are pretty strong that possibly the lieutenant governor was 187 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: one of the administrators on this signal chat Again, does 188 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: that add to the government being involved in the in 189 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: this insurgency? 190 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: If the information does, it does come through, and that 191 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: is that's something that uh, You're going to need discipline 192 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: information to make that case against her. It's got to 193 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: be something that objectively everybody can look at and go, Okay, yeah, she's. 194 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 3: Part of it. 195 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: My from my experience, my uh overseas or and also 196 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: and in the training that we do is that we 197 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: want to solicit government involvement. It's it's a necessary top 198 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: cover to any sort of an insurgency is to create 199 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: some sort of alternate government, what would we would call 200 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: a shadow government? Uh, within the structure? Is she part 201 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: of it? I have no clue. I'm not out. I 202 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: don't have the facts. 203 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: Well, well, let's let's throw some some things that we 204 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: know to be true. We know that Wall said he's 205 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: at war with the federal government. We know that he 206 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: has told people go out there and take your phones 207 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: out and make sure you document everything. We know that 208 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: Peggy Flann again the lieutenant governor, has said that we 209 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: have to put your body on the line. We have 210 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: video of her saying to want to be protesters, go 211 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: out there, take your phone and put your body on 212 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: the line. We've got Jacob Fry saying the ridiculous things 213 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: he said about get the f out of Minneapolis. And 214 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: then we've got a police chief, another a law enforcement 215 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: authority saying call nine to one one on these agents 216 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: that we know are coming here. I mean, that's kind 217 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: of a weird coincidence. If they're all just saying it 218 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: on their own, it seems it seems colluded to me. 219 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: Eric, No, that's that's the kind of rhetoric that we 220 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: would you know, we would expect to see, you know, individually. 221 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: It could be just bad decisions. 222 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: There could be a push that we do on them, 223 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: like they could be there could I can give them 224 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: all kinds of reasons how they could be making these 225 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: statements with you, like they could be receiving outside pressure. 226 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if somebody in their family has been 227 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 2: threatened and they're being told to make these statements. I'm 228 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: going to give them an out for all of it. 229 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: But the thing about it is that is very very 230 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: dangerous reddair rhetoric to put out there, especially as we 231 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: talk about those foot soldiers and stuff, because when you 232 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: have your what we call like your religious zealous out there, 233 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: people who take things very literally that are going to 234 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: go out there and do things, they're not paid there, 235 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: may not even be part of the overall program. They 236 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: just show up and do their own thing. So that 237 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: when you have that type of rhetoric, and when you 238 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: have people out there who you don't necessarily have any 239 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: sort of controls over, they can create a ton of 240 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: problems for you. So it's It's a very dangerous thing 241 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: to say those things because you're there's there's always that 242 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: one person out there that may take it out too far. 243 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: It is Eric Schwam. Go and follow him at s 244 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: E hw A l M five one three two on X. 245 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: He's a retired Green Beret. Let me let me ask 246 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: you this, what is the goal of an insurgency? Is 247 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: it always the same? Is it always different? An insurgency 248 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: wants what. 249 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: UH that we we've been in among the intel people 250 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: that are on X. We're having several discussions about what 251 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 2: the overall intent and goal of this. But you could 252 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: have multiple parties out there with their different intents and 253 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: different goals. We saw this in Afghanistan. We saw this 254 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: UH in Iraq. If you just watched twelve soldiers or 255 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: twelve strong out of Afghanistan, you could see that there 256 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: were two different warlords that had two different ideas of 257 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,479 Speaker 2: what they wanted to do post Afghanistan. 258 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: And even the same thing we saw in. 259 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: Iraq, you could have like there was a cleric in 260 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: Iraq back in two thousand and three. Plus you also 261 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: had the former Saddam regime and they both had different 262 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: ideas of what they wanted to do post Iraq. 263 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: Either way, you're. 264 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: Dealing with both of them, and what they want is 265 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: up to them. But the problem is the same. They're 266 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: creating space for a future goal which you may not know, 267 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: but you've still got to deal with them while they're 268 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: trying as they're trying to get that goal. And that's 269 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: what I was talking about, is that net if it's 270 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: at a level of a network, which I believe it 271 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: to be. I believe there's a hierarchy out there. Who's 272 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: in it, who's not in it. You have to deal 273 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: with it organized as an or like an organization, to 274 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: defeat an organization. CVP and ICE is really really good. 275 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: They have a specific mission that they're out there doing. 276 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: They're they're doing the domestic laws that they're going enforcing 277 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: the domestic laws which they're supposed to be doing. But 278 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: they're not designed to deal with crowd control. They're not 279 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: designed to deal with protests. That's where your local police 280 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: come in. When you're doing the information collection against the 281 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: sigate or against the signal chats, you need somebody in 282 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: there who can get in there. When you're going after 283 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: the fraud, you need a fraud team. When you're going 284 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: after the leadership, you need somebody who's who's actually doing it, 285 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: and that's got to be You can't have separate efforts 286 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: going on out there, going after each one of these 287 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: things that are uncoordinated when they're the actual thing that's 288 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: happening out there is coordinated. And this is what we 289 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: saw in Iraq initially from two thousand and three to 290 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: two thousand and six, was this uncoordinated effort to deal 291 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: with the insurgencies that we were seeing out there. And 292 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: once we got around to two thousand and six and 293 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: somebody finally committed to the word insurgency, and we turned 294 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: the entire thing into a pyramid of people going after 295 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: the entire insurgency. That's where we started to make things happen. 296 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: And that's what they need up there. They need a headquarters, 297 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: they need funding, they need authorities to operate as a 298 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: unit as an entire discipline, using all those organizations who 299 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: very much like to operate independently, but they need to 300 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: coordinate work together. 301 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Eric Shwallam, we appreciate the time of the access, so 302 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: let me ask you about some of the things that 303 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: we've seen not only going on there, but going on elsewhere. 304 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: By the way, let me throw this out there and 305 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: maybe you can help me understand how you can so 306 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: easily change a perspective. Let me give you the perspective 307 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: I get pulled over for speeding. Can you imagine two 308 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: hundred people showing up in vehicles, blowing whistles and screaming 309 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: and yelling and spitting on the cop or pulling me 310 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: over for speeding. That would be ridiculous in the United 311 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: States of America, nobody would be okay with that. But 312 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: here we've got law enforcement officers from Immigration and Customs 313 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: and they're just simply enforcing the law passed by Congress 314 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: and signed by a president back in the day, and 315 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: the same thing is happening. Can you imagine going up 316 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: to any random cop doing his job and spitting and 317 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: screaming and whistling and kicking and surrounding and all of that. 318 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: How did they make it okay that when we see 319 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: them do it to Ice, that's now acceptable because Ice 320 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: is the Nazis or something. But if you were to 321 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: do this to a local cop, that would be ridiculous. 322 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: How did they make people believe that this is okay. 323 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: That's where we talk about the network and their ability 324 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: to create narratives. If you saw there's a twenty page 325 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: pamphlet that they created that they put out there with 326 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: specific talking points with actions how to work the signal chat, 327 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: which is just monumental again with like recognizes like and 328 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: that's a that's a fantastic product that they produced and 329 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: there to get people to go that way as just 330 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: a serious it's a series of small compromises that moves 331 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: people from one step to the next step to the 332 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: next step. And we've seen it the to have that 333 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: happen in the United States, Like I was very I'm 334 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: very very familiar with walking into a store or coffee 335 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: shop or something overseas and paying very much attention to 336 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: the cashiers, the people that are around there, seeing if 337 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: they're using their phone, seeing if they're talking about me, 338 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: keeping an eye outside looking for, you know, potential aggressors 339 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: like special Forces. When we were overseas, there was a 340 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: price on our head multiple times. So I could be 341 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: in any any country overseas and if somebody wanted. 342 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: To, like you, I could be in guitar, I could 343 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: be Enjordan, I could. 344 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: Be anywhere, and it could just all suddenly happen around me, 345 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: that's something I grew used to and so for to 346 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: see that develop here in the United States, where you're 347 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: reading stories of Even last night, there was a TS 348 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: what I was said to be a TSA couple that 349 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: went out to dinner and all of a sudden, everybody 350 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: started performing around around them. They were accosted. There's a 351 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: they got video going from the restaurant to their car. 352 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: So you have to consider that somebody in that store 353 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: like it's it's happened to another four gentlemen who were 354 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: having a business meeting the cashier as somebody made a 355 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: phone call into the chat and suggested that these people 356 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: are there. This is this is a reality for Special 357 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: Forces people overseas. Now it's a reality for uh here 358 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: in the United States. And that is a really disturbing point. 359 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: This is something we never wanted when we were What 360 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 2: we actually went overseas to stop was the presence of 361 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: what we were seeing over there occurring here in the 362 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: United States. I can't tell you how much from an American, 363 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: from a veteran's point of view, how much it upsets 364 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: me to see the things that we said, we told 365 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: each other we were never going to let that happen 366 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: in the United States. We went over there to stop 367 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: it from happening in the United States, and here it is. 368 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: It's right here, happening in real time. The things that 369 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: I saw overseas are now here in the United States 370 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: and happening. 371 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Eric Schwallam, go to Sechwa LM five one, three to 372 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: two over on x go see that massively viral post 373 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: that he made and see why I have him on today, 374 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: and thank you for making the time. I know a 375 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: lot of people want to talk to you. Let me 376 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: set the scene for what's happening here in San Antonio. 377 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: And again, we're national, We're a nationwide hundred and seventy stations, 378 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: but we're based in San Antonio Military City, USA. You've 379 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: got a US representative named Jaqui in Castro. He just 380 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: out only he likes the country. He is somebody who 381 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: wants illegal aliens to just stay here. He's somebody who 382 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: always looks through the lens of being an Hispanic guy 383 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: himself when that's not what normal Hispanics do. And the 384 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: reason I bring him up is this, he decides to 385 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: go online and say that ICE arrested and detained a 386 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: five year old child. We know that story is not true. 387 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: This kid, Liam Kanejo Ramos, his father abandoned him. His 388 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: father was targeted by Ice. ICE was gonna arrest the dad. 389 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: The dad left him in cold temperatures of Minnesota by himself. 390 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: Ice protected the kid, tried to give him to his mother, 391 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: who turned them down twice. So that's the real story. 392 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: He is now at a detention center with his father 393 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: in Dilly, Texas. The reason I'm giving the backstory is 394 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: Castro has decided to say the five year old was arrested. 395 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: Not true. The five year old was detained, not true. 396 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: The five year old and his father now are at 397 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: this Dilly, Texas ICE facility, the detainment center, and Castro 398 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: and Jasmin Crockett decide we're gonna go there and we're 399 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: going to demand that the father and the son be released. 400 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the father is to be deported back to Ecuador. 401 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: They should be released. This is unfair, it's a human 402 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: it's disgusting. Trump is a Nazi. The reason I bring 403 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: this up it's not just Crockett and Castro who go 404 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: Now you've got busses of people coming in and the 405 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: local media is covering hundreds of people turned out. No, 406 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: hundreds of people were busted in to make it look 407 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: like what Castro's saying and what Crockater's saying is true. Eric, 408 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you you can trust me. It's 409 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: verifiably true what I just told you about this five 410 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: year old. He wasn't a wrested or detainer or anything like that. 411 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: Is this an attempt to start an insurgency here? Because 412 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: later you had the former mayor, you've got the county executive. 413 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: They're all doing a big rally in a big meeting 414 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: with hundreds of people just organically showed up to show 415 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: how horrible Ice is and how horrible Trump is. Is 416 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: this the beginning of an insurgency? 417 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: If I would like. 418 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: Say, again, looking at it objectively, looking at it from 419 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: my experience, I would say it has all the signs 420 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: and signatures of yes and insurgency, or or at least 421 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: a low level insurgency until it involves real you know, 422 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: the level of weapons. It's not high order insurgency. You're 423 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: still in the foemenching, unrest and other stages. So what 424 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 2: you're describing, what the what the information is is is 425 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: out there. 426 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: If we were to lay it. 427 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: Up against what how an insurgency works. Things that it's doing. 428 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: We would say these are the things like on the 429 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: on the outer perimeter of the insurgency area where you're 430 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: creating you're creating UH and destabilizing the environment around it 431 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: to make it work, to make it a potential success. So, 432 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: you know, narrative counter counter narrative. It's all going to 433 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: come down to who's got the better case, who's got 434 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: the information. 435 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: UH. I won't dispute that. You know, what's coming out 436 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: from the. 437 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: The UH, the officers and the stuff from the c 438 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: VP and ICE that her down there. You know, again, 439 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: support the officers and and have keep faith with them. 440 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 3: So it's he said, she said at this. 441 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: Point, and they it's and you again, I'm going to 442 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 2: go with the government officials who are not not just 443 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 2: passively going with the government officials like I'm just a 444 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: bootleg or or something like that. But again, you have 445 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 2: to you keep faith with it with the people who 446 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 2: are on the ground. As for the elected leaders that 447 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 2: are out there, they're behaving h They're they're representing their 448 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: constituents out there and behaving exactly the way their constituents 449 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: expect them to to behave whether and I watched like 450 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: this with Congress and stuff like that, everybody that's elected 451 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: up there that I can't I'm not a politician. I 452 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: don't understand politician games. Just the same thing, uh as 453 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: if I was to try to become a radio announcer 454 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: or if I'm trying to become a doctor and stuff. 455 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: When I go into that environment, they have their own world, 456 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: they have their own way of doing things. So how 457 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: the games that they're playing, it's it's old, it's all 458 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: old work to them. This is what every politician does. Uh, 459 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: you know, respect the game for what it is, how 460 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: they're doing it. 461 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 462 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 2: And they're gonna and with any with any political official, 463 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: they also have to have that that way too. They 464 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 2: can throw anything out there and then step aside. And 465 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: and this is it's a it's kind of like an 466 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: an unfair advantage that you have as a politician when 467 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: it comes to the First Amendment, is you have the 468 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 2: ability to say things and you get like kind of 469 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: a handwave to sit there and say, okay, you can 470 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: say that a little bit more than anybody else. If 471 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: I were to do something like that and create a 472 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: destabilized environment, cause a whole bunch of friction of problem 473 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: problems or get somebody killed. I'm responsible for what I say, 474 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: Whereas every politician that's out there understands that they've got 475 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: a different category of First Amendment than say, the rest 476 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: of us. 477 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: And that's not fair. It is again, Eric Schwaalam, go 478 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: to Schwalm fifty one thirty two over on X follow 479 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: what he's doing. The guy's very smart, and I think 480 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: that he's uncovered something here that a lot of us 481 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: weren't thinking about. And I'm glad there's so much virality 482 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: on that post because there are a lot of people going, 483 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? And then you explained 484 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: what the hell you think is going on? So let 485 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: me let me throw this out there. How do you 486 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: put down an insurgency? Before I do that, let me 487 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: ask you this, how important is the complicity of the 488 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: media in helping these people. We know that the media 489 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis Saint Paul is far left. They are absolutely 490 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: gonna gonna carry water for Walls in his entire team 491 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: and for Fry. We also know that the local media 492 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: here in San Antonio has been covering this story incorrectly, 493 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: about this visit to Billy and about who was there 494 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: why they were there and what happened to this five 495 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: year old kid? So how important is that messaging from 496 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: an established media. 497 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: That the messaging is always important in any form of insurgency. 498 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: One of the one of the things we used to 499 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: say overseas is whoever gets the message out first wins, right. 500 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: So that's very it's it's a it's a a an 501 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 3: act actual thing. 502 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: In the Middle East, one of the things that we 503 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: always try to do before we conducted any operations was 504 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: have a message of why, where, everything else that we 505 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: were doing out there, so we get the race against 506 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: the narrative and uh, the billa, the having the legacy 507 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: media out there, and they have the eye, they have 508 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: the ears of a lot of people. There's a lot 509 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: of people people who don't have the ability to understand 510 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: things like X, which I use. I use like as 511 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: an as a analogue intel collection where I just go 512 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: through it and just paste through it and I pick 513 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: up nuggets of information. I'm a I'm a trained intel collector, 514 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: information and intel analysis analyst, so I can go through 515 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: it and pick what the information that's out there, who's actual, credible, viable, 516 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: who has the veracity of the reporting? They consistently report well. 517 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: So the legacy media people have. It's a business, you know, 518 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: and they're successful because they're catering to the people who 519 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: want to hear from it. And until everybody decides that 520 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: the legacy media isn't providing credible information, they're going to 521 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: continue to do what they do, and they're going to 522 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: continue to continue to pander to the people who are 523 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: paying their bills. They're going to provide that information. So 524 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: it's up to it's up to America to get to 525 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: turn on or become a way, if you will, to 526 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: the possibility that other information other than the legacy media exists, 527 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: and to actively seek it out. 528 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 3: You cannot be a passive. 529 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 2: It's been a while now, and I will say a 530 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: lot of America has been asleep at the wheel and 531 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: just letting the government go and have faith and trust 532 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: in them that they have their best interests in mind. 533 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: And we can sit there and honestly say that I don't. 534 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: You know, they don't necessarily have our best interests in mind. 535 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 2: And they've been doing it because we've been asleep, And 536 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: as an American it's our fault. I take responsibility as 537 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: a voter for being asleep. For letting things go, for 538 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: not speaking out, for not becoming active and one of 539 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: the things of our constitution it absolutely requires us to 540 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: be active participants in our government. My dad, who passed 541 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 2: away in twenty twenty, taught me very very well. He 542 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: was a Democrat Union carpenter out of Rochester, New York. 543 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: Incredible man, was in World War Two and he taught 544 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: me to really love my that it is my responsibility 545 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: to as an American, to own a gun, to question 546 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: my government, to speak freely, all the things that you're 547 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: supposed to do, and when we haven't been doing it, 548 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: that's we we open the door for what's happened. 549 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: It is Eric schwall M again Schwami five one three 550 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: two over on X it's s E. Hw Alm go 551 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: follow him now. Last question. I appreciate all the time 552 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: and the access and that amazing. Just the way you 553 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: spelled it out on X it made me say, wow, 554 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: we have to talk to this guy. How do you 555 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: put down an insurgency? We know that it's happening. It 556 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: looks like all the signs are there in Minneapolis. We 557 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: don't want some bloody warfare in the streets. How do 558 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: you stop it? Just beat them at messaging uncover reveal 559 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: that this really is an infrastructure and this isn't just 560 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: organic in grassroots. 561 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 3: Uh. 562 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: Like I said, it takes an It takes an organization 563 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: to put down an organization. So to really to undo it, uh, 564 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: you need to go after to the entire organization and 565 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: pick it apart and then let the message and the 566 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: reality of what's of what's happening on the ground work 567 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 2: its way out through providing truth, providing evidence of that truth, 568 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: presenting that we have good people out there as officers, 569 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: that they are just like everybody else. They put their 570 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: clothes out in the morning, they kiss their kids goodbye. 571 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: They're not bad people. They're just implementing domestic policy the 572 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: way it was voted. And if once we get those 573 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: messages out there and we shut down the counter messaging, 574 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: not through censorship or anything, but through evidence, reality and 575 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: really showing people the truth of the matter. Truth is 576 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: everything here. But here's one reality you need to keep 577 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: in mind. It is the eighty ten ten principle. Ten 578 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: percent of the people are gonna love you every time. 579 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: Ten percent of the people are gonna hate you no 580 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: matter what you do. 581 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: It's the other eighty. 582 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: Percent that you're actually trying to sway one way or 583 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: the other and right, and that's the flight is that 584 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: eighty percent. And you're never gonna get a total hundred percent. 585 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: You're always, like I said, you're always going to have 586 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: that ten percent that hate you. You could give them 587 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: a million dollars and they're gonna complain that. 588 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: You gave it to them. And Nichols. 589 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: So it comes down to truth and showing people the reality, 590 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 2: loving your country, teaching, waking people up to the false 591 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: realities that they're being presented, and maybe and like and 592 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: by people and maybe other organizations or other entities outside 593 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: the United States who actually want a failed United States 594 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: or a weak United States because. 595 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: It benefits them. 596 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: And I don't I don't hold it against the other 597 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: countries for for trying a week in the United States. 598 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: That's their job. 599 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: We have a job when we go out overseas as well. 600 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: Every country is in it for themselves. So hey, it's happening. 601 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: You've got to be honest with yourself, expect that there's 602 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: another organization out there trying to undermine you always. 603 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: And counteract it with the truth is so important because 604 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: that circles us back to where we started today there's 605 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: new video of Alex Preddy kick and spitting and breaking 606 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: tail lights and being actively aggressive and actually being a criminal. 607 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: We watching him, we're watching him commit crimes against law enforcement. 608 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: That changes the narrative. Suddenly this holier than now and 609 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: the angel that he was, and he was taking too 610 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: soon when he was a hero for protecting a woman 611 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: that goes out the window. And now I would assume 612 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: that the insurgency has to switch. Okay, he's not our 613 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: guy anymore. Oh crap, that new video came out. Let's 614 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: go do something else. I said last question, I mean 615 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: it this time. Do you Is this insurgency coming to 616 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: an end? Because people are waking up to what they're 617 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: seeing and what they're hearing and what they're feeling, they 618 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: see that there's another side on the other side. It's 619 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: probably true. 620 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: I would expect to don't take that off the table, 621 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: that the insurgency's going to end. Okay, So it's going 622 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: to be it's going to be a constant. There's always 623 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: going to be pressure. Again, like I said just said previously, 624 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: there there's other interested parties that want a failed or 625 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: weak United States, and they're going to be actively participating. 626 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: They're going to be sending people like me into the 627 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: United States to who are we're going to be your cadre, 628 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 2: who are going to be your leadership, But they're going 629 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: to be advisors. They're going to sit there and try 630 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: to foeman unrest. They're going to be doing all those 631 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: things out there, and only through the truth are you 632 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: going to come out At least you can bring things 633 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: down to a below threshold that you're looking to achieve, 634 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: a lower threshold. 635 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: I love it. It's a retired US Army CW four 636 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: green Beret, Eric Schwalm. Go and follow him Schwalm five 637 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: one three two over on X. Amazing to talk with you. 638 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: Let's do it again, my friend, such incredible knowledge. Thank 639 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 1: you for doing it and my pleasure absolutely all right, 640 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: my man, that's it for unshaking and unafraid with Joe 641 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: PAGs this time. I know they would have dropped very 642 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: soon